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00:02:21,080\n貨櫃沒有100%我們怎麼處理當然你有跟我講現在高風險的國家來的貨櫃的一個查驗比例增加對吧我們一直都是在這樣做但是可不可以高風險的國家查驗的來到100%\n\n8\n00:02:24,190 --> 00:02:43,437\n我想第一个人力上当然我们高风险的我们查验的比例一定会提很高的我想部长没有所谓的人员的问题因为现在是关乎整个猪肉的产业链2000多亿我想我们应该要提高现在我点出了问题\n\n9\n00:02:44,678 --> 00:03:00,990\n貨櫃沒有100%貨櫃沒有100%貨櫃沒有100%這個部分就是我們現在要關注的一個議題近5年來查獲未經檢驗豬肉製品的一個數量來源國家以及財閥落實的情形部長你有掌握嗎\n\n10\n00:03:02,950 --> 00:03:30,024\n跟委員報告我們關務署的同仁在這方面一直是用最高標準一個最嚴謹的態度來做處理的我想我相信所有的同仁一定是非常在這個崗位上一定是非常認真的去執行他們的業務但是我們這些坐在辦公室的長官還有行政院能不能給予更多的人力更多的資源這是行政院的責任所以作為部長你們有沒有反應\n\n11\n00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:58,707\n现在货柜没有100%需要怎么样的一个人力物力来支持整个所有同仁在执勤上能够给予更多的一个资源坦尚尼亚的一个杂货轮绝对是冰山一角所以部长请你看这一份报告我们这一份报告是10月29日未还委员会农业部里面的报告关于防范非洲猪瘟的疫情扩散专案报告中农业部的书面报告提到\n\n12\n00:03:59,548 --> 00:04:20,493\n跨部會的協同合作本部房檢署與財政部官務署還有海洋委員會以及海巡署溝通機制協同合作嚴禁入境旅客貨物歸物還有我們的國際快遞郵包以及岸際漁船聯合防堵相關的走私問題\n\n13\n00:04:21,693 --> 00:04:33,371\n我想部長跨部會的一個協同合作怎麼樣的合作方式近五年來的合作到底有幾次可以說明一下嗎我們合作是一直持續在進行的\n\n14\n00:04:33,936 --> 00:04:58,397\n对有怎么样的合作方式合作有几次我们各有不同的一个执掌我们在执掌面上我们是一直都在合作的对包含勤职交换各方面都一直在联系整个政府都会是一直都在合作我们都相信但是我想了解一下效率可不可以说明一下这五年来查细过几件比例为何在跨部会的合作下\n\n15\n00:05:00,265 --> 00:05:15,968\n這個數據我可以在會後再提供給委員所以到底有沒有跨部會協作當然是有跨部會的協作那到底合作過幾次還是每天都在合作就叫做合作持續的當然是要持續的合作不是說只有偶爾合作\n\n16\n00:05:16,428 --> 00:05:34,384\n我們希望的是不要只有豬瘟爆發以後現在用這樣子的一個書面報告農業部有沒有說謊農業部有沒有真的落實跨部會的協助以及財政部有沒有支持這個我會後希望你能夠提供數據給我知道可以嗎我們把相關數據收集以後\n\n17\n00:05:34,824 --> 00:06:00,544\n另外我想問一下在這個所得稅法裡面有特別幾項特別的扣除額儲蓄投資的扣除額教育學費的扣除額以及幼兒學前特別的扣除額長期照顧的扣除額皆是透過稅制的一個設計來滿足地方政府的目標社會公益那目前社會有在倡議的綠色扣除額部長您的態度如何\n\n18\n00:06:02,621 --> 00:06:20,093\n有關所謂的綠色的稅制在氣候變形溫管法裡面第一個是以碳價先行綠色的稅制我們會等碳價進行一段時間以後再整體的再來做目前貨物稅也具有這樣的一個功能\n\n19\n00:06:21,034 --> 00:06:47,609\n在綠色的稅制部長我今天提出來希望你重視綠色的扣除額這個問題當然你有先講了先從探製開始處理後續再來研議但是我希望目前整個民間在倡議的部分你要聽到這些心聲那今天昭偉站起來昭偉您非常的英明剛剛說發便當了再給我一分鐘拜託最後一分鐘那不用擔心他們大家都在休息部長風景神經聽就好30秒30秒OK來好\n\n20\n00:06:49,990 --> 00:07:07,595\n最後30秒最後美國最高法院就川普援引的IEPA現在所法案所課徵的關稅是否違憲來做討論如果最高法院最後也支持這樣的裁決我要講的是如果最後川普違憲了\n\n21\n00:07:08,935 --> 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包含勤职交换各方面都一直在联系整个政府都会是一直都在合作我们都相信但是我想了解一下效率可不可以说明一下这五年来查细过几件比例为何在跨部会的合作下\n300265\t315968\t這個數據我可以在會後再提供給委員所以到底有沒有跨部會協作當然是有跨部會的協作那到底合作過幾次還是每天都在合作就叫做合作持續的當然是要持續的合作不是說只有偶爾合作\n316428\t334384\t我們希望的是不要只有豬瘟爆發以後現在用這樣子的一個書面報告農業部有沒有說謊農業部有沒有真的落實跨部會的協助以及財政部有沒有支持這個我會後希望你能夠提供數據給我知道可以嗎我們把相關數據收集以後\n334824\t360544\t另外我想問一下在這個所得稅法裡面有特別幾項特別的扣除額儲蓄投資的扣除額教育學費的扣除額以及幼兒學前特別的扣除額長期照顧的扣除額皆是透過稅制的一個設計來滿足地方政府的目標社會公益那目前社會有在倡議的綠色扣除額部長您的態度如何\n362621\t380093\t有關所謂的綠色的稅制在氣候變形溫管法裡面第一個是以碳價先行綠色的稅制我們會等碳價進行一段時間以後再整體的再來做目前貨物稅也具有這樣的一個功能\n381034\t407609\t在綠色的稅制部長我今天提出來希望你重視綠色的扣除額這個問題當然你有先講了先從探製開始處理後續再來研議但是我希望目前整個民間在倡議的部分你要聽到這些心聲那今天昭偉站起來昭偉您非常的英明剛剛說發便當了再給我一分鐘拜託最後一分鐘那不用擔心他們大家都在休息部長風景神經聽就好30秒30秒OK來好\n409990\t427595\t最後30秒最後美國最高法院就川普援引的IEPA現在所法案所課徵的關稅是否違憲來做討論如果最高法院最後也支持這樣的裁決我要講的是如果最後川普違憲了\n428935\t454705\t財政部有沒有幫廠商預先規劃好幫我國的廠商業者統合之後統一由財政部聯合其他的部會向美國交涉處理而不是讓這個廠商各個單打獨鬥來向美國政府來討要他們之前所權益受損的甚至繳出去的關稅我希望財政部應該要趕快預先準備\n456346\t465336\t讓這些廠商沒有後顧之憂大廠商好談判中小廠商根本美國官員不會理他部長最後可不可以回應一下\n466616\t487705\t有關台美之間的關稅這個部分的協議跟討論是由那個經貿辦公室在主責那也是由我們的正副院長在領軍在持續的進行討論跟溝通當中我希望你把我今天的意思能夠帶到啦幫所有的中小業者來發聲統一由企業拜託政府來處理當然委員的意見我們會轉達好 謝謝羅天惟委員\n","txt":"我宣布一下就是我們待會十二點我們現場直接開飯用餐十二點就開飯用餐好謝謝主席有請部長請莊部長\n委員好部長好台灣現在發生非洲豬瘟外界關注兩個問題一個問題就是處於第二個問題就是邊境的管制我想要請問部長目前針對高風險的國家包括中國 越南 泰國入境的旅客 快遞的郵包以及查緝發現豬肉的比例為何\n對於這個郵包也好快遞貨物也好我們都是高風險進來的旅客行李都是X光的百分之百的檢測那請問貨櫃呢貨櫃怎麼查 百分之百嗎貨櫃的部分也是按照風險來做鎖定然後有不同的查驗比例所以它是有比例的嘛\n而且高風險的比例就相對更高但是我要講的是說他沒有100%我們當然知道快遞的郵包你現在是百分之百入境的旅客百分之百但是貨櫃就是沒有100%我們看這樣子的一個新聞您看一下坦向尼亞的一個雜貨輪走私肉品來台他就是貨櫃來的\n如果沒有做到100%的查驗我們要如何確保肉類不會走失進來\n對於這個豬肉的防線我們第一個邊境的防線第二個是後市場的防線第三個就是豬瘟廚餘的一個防線這個三道防線都應該要做得很好我想每一個防線都應該各司其職的把它都做好沒有問題廚餘要不要關注 要但是我現在就問\n貨櫃沒有100%我們怎麼處理當然你有跟我講現在高風險的國家來的貨櫃的一個查驗比例增加對吧我們一直都是在這樣做但是可不可以高風險的國家查驗的來到100%\n我想第一个人力上当然我们高风险的我们查验的比例一定会提很高的我想部长没有所谓的人员的问题因为现在是关乎整个猪肉的产业链2000多亿我想我们应该要提高现在我点出了问题\n貨櫃沒有100%貨櫃沒有100%貨櫃沒有100%這個部分就是我們現在要關注的一個議題近5年來查獲未經檢驗豬肉製品的一個數量來源國家以及財閥落實的情形部長你有掌握嗎\n跟委員報告我們關務署的同仁在這方面一直是用最高標準一個最嚴謹的態度來做處理的我想我相信所有的同仁一定是非常在這個崗位上一定是非常認真的去執行他們的業務但是我們這些坐在辦公室的長官還有行政院能不能給予更多的人力更多的資源這是行政院的責任所以作為部長你們有沒有反應\n现在货柜没有100%需要怎么样的一个人力物力来支持整个所有同仁在执勤上能够给予更多的一个资源坦尚尼亚的一个杂货轮绝对是冰山一角所以部长请你看这一份报告我们这一份报告是10月29日未还委员会农业部里面的报告关于防范非洲猪瘟的疫情扩散专案报告中农业部的书面报告提到\n跨部會的協同合作本部房檢署與財政部官務署還有海洋委員會以及海巡署溝通機制協同合作嚴禁入境旅客貨物歸物還有我們的國際快遞郵包以及岸際漁船聯合防堵相關的走私問題\n我想部長跨部會的一個協同合作怎麼樣的合作方式近五年來的合作到底有幾次可以說明一下嗎我們合作是一直持續在進行的\n对 有怎么样的合作方式合作有几次我们各有不同的一个执掌我们在执掌面上我们是一直都在合作的对 包含勤职交换各方面都一直在联系整个政府都会是一直都在合作我们都相信但是我想了解一下效率可不可以说明一下这五年来查细过几件比例为何在跨部会的合作下\n這個數據我可以在會後再提供給委員所以到底有沒有跨部會協作當然是有跨部會的協作那到底合作過幾次還是每天都在合作就叫做合作持續的當然是要持續的合作不是說只有偶爾合作\n我們希望的是不要只有豬瘟爆發以後現在用這樣子的一個書面報告農業部有沒有說謊農業部有沒有真的落實跨部會的協助以及財政部有沒有支持這個我會後希望你能夠提供數據給我知道可以嗎我們把相關數據收集以後\n另外我想問一下在這個所得稅法裡面有特別幾項特別的扣除額儲蓄投資的扣除額教育學費的扣除額以及幼兒學前特別的扣除額長期照顧的扣除額皆是透過稅制的一個設計來滿足地方政府的目標社會公益那目前社會有在倡議的綠色扣除額部長您的態度如何\n有關所謂的綠色的稅制在氣候變形溫管法裡面第一個是以碳價先行綠色的稅制我們會等碳價進行一段時間以後再整體的再來做目前貨物稅也具有這樣的一個功能\n在綠色的稅制部長我今天提出來希望你重視綠色的扣除額這個問題當然你有先講了先從探製開始處理後續再來研議但是我希望目前整個民間在倡議的部分你要聽到這些心聲那今天昭偉站起來昭偉您非常的英明剛剛說發便當了再給我一分鐘拜託最後一分鐘那不用擔心他們大家都在休息部長風景神經聽就好30秒30秒OK來好\n最後30秒最後美國最高法院就川普援引的IEPA現在所法案所課徵的關稅是否違憲來做討論如果最高法院最後也支持這樣的裁決我要講的是如果最後川普違憲了\n財政部有沒有幫廠商預先規劃好幫我國的廠商業者統合之後統一由財政部聯合其他的部會向美國交涉處理而不是讓這個廠商各個單打獨鬥來向美國政府來討要他們之前所權益受損的甚至繳出去的關稅我希望財政部應該要趕快預先準備\n讓這些廠商沒有後顧之憂大廠商好談判中小廠商根本美國官員不會理他部長最後可不可以回應一下\n有關台美之間的關稅這個部分的協議跟討論是由那個經貿辦公室在主責那也是由我們的正副院長在領軍在持續的進行討論跟溝通當中我希望你把我今天的意思能夠帶到啦幫所有的中小業者來發聲統一由企業拜託政府來處理當然委員的意見我們會轉達好 謝謝羅天惟委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.844 --> 00:10.447\n我宣布一下就是我們待會十二點我們現場直接開飯用餐十二點就開飯用餐好謝謝主席有請部長請莊部長\n\n00:25.430 --> 00:47.370\n委員好部長好台灣現在發生非洲豬瘟外界關注兩個問題一個問題就是處於第二個問題就是邊境的管制我想要請問部長目前針對高風險的國家包括中國越南泰國入境的旅客快遞的郵包以及查緝發現豬肉的比例為何\n\n00:49.522 --> 01:09.211\n對於這個郵包也好快遞貨物也好我們都是高風險進來的旅客行李都是X光的百分之百的檢測那請問貨櫃呢貨櫃怎麼查百分之百嗎貨櫃的部分也是按照風險來做鎖定然後有不同的查驗比例所以它是有比例的嘛\n\n01:10.111 --> 01:33.185\n而且高風險的比例就相對更高但是我要講的是說他沒有100%我們當然知道快遞的郵包你現在是百分之百入境的旅客百分之百但是貨櫃就是沒有100%我們看這樣子的一個新聞您看一下坦向尼亞的一個雜貨輪走私肉品來台他就是貨櫃來的\n\n01:34.326 --> 01:41.513\n如果沒有做到100%的查驗我們要如何確保肉類不會走失進來\n\n01:44.009 --> 02:03.687\n對於這個豬肉的防線我們第一個邊境的防線第二個是後市場的防線第三個就是豬瘟廚餘的一個防線這個三道防線都應該要做得很好我想每一個防線都應該各司其職的把它都做好沒有問題廚餘要不要關注要但是我現在就問\n\n02:05.687 --> 02:21.080\n貨櫃沒有100%我們怎麼處理當然你有跟我講現在高風險的國家來的貨櫃的一個查驗比例增加對吧我們一直都是在這樣做但是可不可以高風險的國家查驗的來到100%\n\n02:24.190 --> 02:43.437\n我想第一个人力上当然我们高风险的我们查验的比例一定会提很高的我想部长没有所谓的人员的问题因为现在是关乎整个猪肉的产业链2000多亿我想我们应该要提高现在我点出了问题\n\n02:44.678 --> 03:00.990\n貨櫃沒有100%貨櫃沒有100%貨櫃沒有100%這個部分就是我們現在要關注的一個議題近5年來查獲未經檢驗豬肉製品的一個數量來源國家以及財閥落實的情形部長你有掌握嗎\n\n03:02.950 --> 03:30.024\n跟委員報告我們關務署的同仁在這方面一直是用最高標準一個最嚴謹的態度來做處理的我想我相信所有的同仁一定是非常在這個崗位上一定是非常認真的去執行他們的業務但是我們這些坐在辦公室的長官還有行政院能不能給予更多的人力更多的資源這是行政院的責任所以作為部長你們有沒有反應\n\n03:31.144 --> 03:58.707\n现在货柜没有100%需要怎么样的一个人力物力来支持整个所有同仁在执勤上能够给予更多的一个资源坦尚尼亚的一个杂货轮绝对是冰山一角所以部长请你看这一份报告我们这一份报告是10月29日未还委员会农业部里面的报告关于防范非洲猪瘟的疫情扩散专案报告中农业部的书面报告提到\n\n03:59.548 --> 04:20.493\n跨部會的協同合作本部房檢署與財政部官務署還有海洋委員會以及海巡署溝通機制協同合作嚴禁入境旅客貨物歸物還有我們的國際快遞郵包以及岸際漁船聯合防堵相關的走私問題\n\n04:21.693 --> 04:33.371\n我想部長跨部會的一個協同合作怎麼樣的合作方式近五年來的合作到底有幾次可以說明一下嗎我們合作是一直持續在進行的\n\n04:33.936 --> 04:58.397\n对有怎么样的合作方式合作有几次我们各有不同的一个执掌我们在执掌面上我们是一直都在合作的对包含勤职交换各方面都一直在联系整个政府都会是一直都在合作我们都相信但是我想了解一下效率可不可以说明一下这五年来查细过几件比例为何在跨部会的合作下\n\n05:00.265 --> 05:15.968\n這個數據我可以在會後再提供給委員所以到底有沒有跨部會協作當然是有跨部會的協作那到底合作過幾次還是每天都在合作就叫做合作持續的當然是要持續的合作不是說只有偶爾合作\n\n05:16.428 --> 05:34.384\n我們希望的是不要只有豬瘟爆發以後現在用這樣子的一個書面報告農業部有沒有說謊農業部有沒有真的落實跨部會的協助以及財政部有沒有支持這個我會後希望你能夠提供數據給我知道可以嗎我們把相關數據收集以後\n\n05:34.824 --> 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