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00:02:10,164\n在上個星期他們這些涉案人陸續有人被羈押有人被交保其中有一個這樣的畫面就是有一位特助在被交保了之後這樣的開懷的燦笑而引起台灣國內輿論的嘩然認為一個這樣的跨國的詐騙集團而且他的光是在台灣不罰所得就已經超過45億元\n\n6\n00:02:12,105 --> 00:02:20,531\n但是交保竟然少少的15萬元所以院長你看到這樣的畫面這樣的一個新聞你震怒嗎我一直對於這樣的結果我認為是對我們第一線的檢調人員世紀極大的打擊\n\n7\n00:02:28,820 --> 00:02:50,633\n很不容易發現一個詐團把他的首腦或是相關的人員把他抓到了逮捕到了結果法院輕輕的幾萬塊錢交保這個不僅是國人的觀感不好對這些執法人員士氣是極大的打擊我認為詐騙的方式我們要有效的防詐行政司法要同步來執行\n\n8\n00:02:51,605 --> 00:03:11,020\n所以连院长都看不下去所以我在这边要特别讲一下因为前阵子我们关心的比如说川普到亚洲访问在东协他们开会的时候就是韩国的总统李在明\n\n9\n00:03:11,781 --> 00:03:35,135\n他針對南韓大學生在柬埔寨被虐死那麼他震怒而且他直接跟國際犯罪組織宣戰他說如果這些國際犯罪組織膽敢碰韓國人或將其捲入犯罪我們要讓他知道結局只有家破人亡\n\n10\n00:03:36,335 --> 00:03:56,468\n這是李在明對國際犯罪組織的一個宣戰那麼就是因為他震怒然後在這個十月份在東南亞舉行東協會議的時候呢李在明就跟柬埔寨的這個領導人見面非常快速的\n\n11\n00:03:57,128 --> 00:04:12,863\n在柬埔寨所有韓國涉案的這些詐騙的這些歹徒全部送到韓國去接受司法制裁可是呢我們必須說前陣子我們也是討論到\n\n12\n00:04:14,665 --> 00:04:32,158\n台灣到現在還是很多人被騙到柬埔寨結果我們只能在機場裡面去舉標語說要小心詐騙所以我要講的是我非常肯定剛才院長這樣的答覆雖然這個是司法院肯定說這是司法獨立\n\n13\n00:04:32,958 --> 00:05:00,379\n但是司法不能夠自外於我們整個的社會觀感司法不能自外於我們打擊詐騙打擊犯罪的一個決心對不對所以在這邊我利用今天的這個總諮詢我覺得還是要提醒院長和行政單位院長其實我今天為什麼特別選擇教文呢我剛才說其實我們最近教育出了很大的問題\n\n14\n00:05:01,826 --> 00:05:12,545\n最近討論最多的就是我們的教師荒到今年這個學期其實很多學校在開學之後還在徵老師\n\n15\n00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:35,946\n有很多學校開學了好幾個月還在缺老師那有很多的學校因為老師極度的缺乏所以呢很多老師事實上呢他是超時在工作所以我必須講現在全台的教師荒已經成為了我們的新國安問題我們這幾年來護理人員缺\n\n16\n00:05:43,063 --> 00:05:58,453\n軍警缺軍警消缺然後現在教師缺所以這是社會這個國家最中間的力量這樣大量的缺乏人才這是我們必須去正視的\n\n17\n00:05:59,554 --> 00:06:16,601\n所以我在這邊請教我們的部長我剛剛有提到很多學校到了10月份還在徵老師那也有學校說他們真的44次還是招不到老師所以我在這邊直接的\n\n18\n00:06:17,907 --> 00:06:44,115\n像就教育院長和部長我們現在其實教育第一線之所以這樣人才極度的缺乏有很多很多的原因但是我在這邊特別提到這個事實上在我們的教文的部門的質詢的時候我也有看到比如說像葛如軍委員他曾經就去整理我們教師的終點費\n\n19\n00:06:46,096 --> 00:07:10,969\n國小教師終點費還有國中教師及高中教師終點費他去統計從美國是79年一直到現在35年35年這個物價都不知道飛漲到什麼程度了一碗滷肉飯都不曉得已經漲成什麼樣子了對不對可是部長院長你知道嗎我們國小教師的終點費35年調升\n\n20\n00:07:14,651 --> 00:07:32,663\n是76块35年调了76块以现在来讲一个便当都买不到我们高中教师的终点费还有国中教师终点费35年调生只有18块到20块\n\n21\n00:07:34,448 --> 00:08:03,587\n我們葛珠區委員說這搞不好一支比較好的原子筆都買不到現在連泡麵都買不到所以長期以來我們第一線的教師用他們的使命用他們的熱情但是呢因為現在沒有什麼尊師重道的精神再加上他們第一線其實壓力非常大我在這邊就要特別為第一線的教師們請命這個也是大家討論很多的剛才我講的終點\n\n22\n00:08:05,329 --> 00:08:33,991\n还有就是导师费大家都知道你要担任导师的话你到了晚上都还要跟家长的群组LINE大家东问西问你不可能就这样轻轻松松的就下班了所以导师事实上他肩负非常大的一个行政的责任跟一个教育的责任好那我们国中小导师也动长了13年国中小导师的\n\n23\n00:08:35,271 --> 00:08:57,243\n的這個導師費就是植物家籍導師費也動漲長達13年之久13年之久那所以其實也有很多的教師團體說應該把現在動漲的導師費也應該予以提高不然的話我剛才講了35年漲什麼漲20塊18塊泡麵都買不成然後\n\n24\n00:09:02,765 --> 00:09:30,302\n13年來導師費從來都沒有調漲過那這個其實在我知道在教育部門質詢的時候都有很多委員問到部長部長也承諾說要提出方案所以部長此時此刻可不可以給我們一個很明確的讓我們第一線現在的不管是終點費也好或者是這個導師費也好可以予以調整\n\n25\n00:09:31,618 --> 00:10:01,138\n跟我們報告確實院長也有這個指示我們怎麼樣去給中小學老師有一個更好的一個待遇讓他們能夠更安定的能夠來從事教室指導我們的新世代的這些學生我想我們也內部也確實積極在研議但是因為許多的這些國民教育的許多經費上的一些資用那也涉及到地方22個地方縣市院長也特別指示\n\n26\n00:10:02,319 --> 00:10:19,894\n國教署一定要先跟地方22個地方縣市政府能夠先大家先討論那我們到時候會有一個具體的一個方案什麼時候呢因為我看你在教文委員會就已經講說一個月內要提出一個月已經到了\n\n27\n00:10:20,748 --> 00:10:28,395\n沒有我們當時大概就是說我們希望配合校事會議的時候大概在12月底之前那當然所以會不會調來來我請我請教院長院間總質詢院長\n\n28\n00:10:34,366 --> 00:10:52,129\n第一線教師的我剛講包含長期都沒有調整的終點費和導師費是不是應該要調整是跟委員報告部長在日前上個禮拜上一個禮拜兩個禮拜已經來說明過而且在質詢過程過程當中我也接受到這樣的訊息\n\n29\n00:10:53,670 --> 00:11:17,420\n對長期教師的待遇應該要更合理化但是我們考慮到國中小他應該屬於地方自治事項如果現在的調整未來這個人事費的支應是中央或地方或中央地方如何來協調這個部分一定要跟地方談到地方也願意那我們才能再訂一個方式否則又會變成說中央請客地方買單\n\n30\n00:11:19,260 --> 00:11:38,648\n所以你的標準要一致喔可是你們每次軍公教調薪你們也就是直接宣布啊對不對軍公教調薪本來就也有地方的那個支出啊所以呢所以我在這邊我就是要院長一句話就是我剛剛說我們現在啊我們面對新的國安問題護理人員我們那時候護理人員應該要加薪啊真的應該要加薪\n\n31\n00:11:45,771 --> 00:11:54,551\n我們現在這麼多這麼重要的這些領域的人才都在都在喊沒有人這是很可怕的事情教育\n\n32\n00:11:56,378 --> 00:12:22,129\n這百年大計我們不能讓教育界變成教育成為一個好像是黃昏產業這不可以這樣子絕對不能變成但是現在就是這樣啊考上教師證也不願意來當教師啊我們已經重視了解我們並不是黃昏產業我們大部分的中小學老師還是謹守崗位跟外包委員也非常清楚\n\n33\n00:12:22,629 --> 00:12:48,040\n我們任何一項最近這三年來的國際評比我們沒有一項是落於五名之後所以這是我們第一線的教師非常非常的認真努力因為我時間有限謝謝部長就是一定要努力好時間請暫停一下鄭部長請回我請一下我們文化部李部長麻煩請文化部長備選\n\n34\n00:13:04,541 --> 00:13:23,719\n時間繼續最近監察院針對台灣plus指出了一些缺失而台灣plus從110年到現在已經花掉58億未來還要花40億也就是說我們在台灣plus要砸下百億元但是呢\n\n35\n00:13:24,600 --> 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謝謝主席我先請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢我也先請我們的教育部長麻煩再請教育部長備詢黃委員好院長好和我們政部長好委員好院長可能因為今天\n32639\t59474\t我們的教文的質詢除了我們麥玉珍委員因為他今天在立法院有一個新住民的座談因為他來自於全國的新住民的代表但是我看到我們執政黨的委員今天竟然有高達六位委員都提出書面質詢我不曉得是認為我們的教文的質詢不重要還是在體恤院長的心不會跟委員報告\n60094\t82975\t在這裡的總諮詢無論是口頭跟書面行政院一樣的重視一樣重視我們的這個教育文化的委員們也許在委員會當中跟部長都清楚的了解那今天他即使提出書面諮詢我們也會詳細的來答但是這麼多位的委員提出書面確實是在立法院比較少見好那院長先請教院長最近在\n84056\t102416\t国内热议的一个议题就是诈骗最近一个跨国的太子集团因为它整个的洗钱高达好几百亿而在台湾被台湾确定它的不法所得就高达45亿元之多\n103617\t130164\t在上個星期他們這些涉案人陸續有人被羈押有人被交保其中有一個這樣的畫面就是有一位特助在被交保了之後這樣的開懷的燦笑而引起台灣國內輿論的嘩然認為一個這樣的跨國的詐騙集團而且他的光是在台灣不罰所得就已經超過45億元\n132105\t140531\t但是交保竟然少少的15萬元所以院長你看到這樣的畫面這樣的一個新聞你震怒嗎我一直對於這樣的結果我認為是對我們第一線的檢調人員世紀極大的打擊\n148820\t170633\t很不容易發現一個詐團把他的首腦或是相關的人員把他抓到了逮捕到了結果法院輕輕的幾萬塊錢交保這個不僅是國人的觀感不好對這些執法人員士氣是極大的打擊我認為詐騙的方式我們要有效的防詐行政司法要同步來執行\n171605\t191020\t所以连院长都看不下去所以我在这边要特别讲一下因为前阵子我们关心的比如说川普到亚洲访问在东协他们开会的时候就是韩国的总统李在明\n191781\t215135\t他針對南韓大學生在柬埔寨被虐死那麼他震怒而且他直接跟國際犯罪組織宣戰他說如果這些國際犯罪組織膽敢碰韓國人或將其捲入犯罪我們要讓他知道結局只有家破人亡\n216335\t236468\t這是李在明對國際犯罪組織的一個宣戰那麼就是因為他震怒然後在這個十月份在東南亞舉行東協會議的時候呢李在明就跟柬埔寨的這個領導人見面非常快速的\n237128\t252863\t在柬埔寨所有韓國涉案的這些詐騙的這些歹徒全部送到韓國去接受司法制裁可是呢我們必須說前陣子我們也是討論到\n254665\t272158\t台灣到現在還是很多人被騙到柬埔寨結果我們只能在機場裡面去舉標語說要小心詐騙所以我要講的是我非常肯定剛才院長這樣的答覆雖然這個是司法院肯定說這是司法獨立\n272958\t300379\t但是司法不能夠自外於我們整個的社會觀感司法不能自外於我們打擊詐騙打擊犯罪的一個決心對不對所以在這邊我利用今天的這個總諮詢我覺得還是要提醒院長和行政單位院長其實我今天為什麼特別選擇教文呢我剛才說其實我們最近教育出了很大的問題\n301826\t312545\t最近討論最多的就是我們的教師荒到今年這個學期其實很多學校在開學之後還在徵老師\n313740\t335946\t有很多學校開學了好幾個月還在缺老師那有很多的學校因為老師極度的缺乏所以呢很多老師事實上呢他是超時在工作所以我必須講現在全台的教師荒已經成為了我們的新國安問題我們這幾年來護理人員缺\n343063\t358453\t軍警缺軍警消缺然後現在教師缺所以這是社會這個國家最中間的力量這樣大量的缺乏人才這是我們必須去正視的\n359554\t376601\t所以我在這邊請教我們的部長我剛剛有提到很多學校到了10月份還在徵老師那也有學校說他們真的44次還是招不到老師所以我在這邊直接的\n377907\t404115\t像就教育院長和部長我們現在其實教育第一線之所以這樣人才極度的缺乏有很多很多的原因但是我在這邊特別提到這個事實上在我們的教文的部門的質詢的時候我也有看到比如說像葛如軍委員他曾經就去整理我們教師的終點費\n406096\t430969\t國小教師終點費還有國中教師及高中教師終點費他去統計從美國是79年一直到現在35年35年這個物價都不知道飛漲到什麼程度了一碗滷肉飯都不曉得已經漲成什麼樣子了對不對可是部長院長你知道嗎我們國小教師的終點費35年調升\n434651\t452663\t是76块35年调了76块以现在来讲一个便当都买不到我们高中教师的终点费还有国中教师终点费35年调生只有18块到20块\n454448\t483587\t我們葛珠區委員說這搞不好一支比較好的原子筆都買不到現在連泡麵都買不到所以長期以來我們第一線的教師用他們的使命用他們的熱情但是呢因為現在沒有什麼尊師重道的精神再加上他們第一線其實壓力非常大我在這邊就要特別為第一線的教師們請命這個也是大家討論很多的剛才我講的終點\n485329\t513991\t还有就是导师费大家都知道你要担任导师的话你到了晚上都还要跟家长的群组LINE大家东问西问你不可能就这样轻轻松松的就下班了所以导师事实上他肩负非常大的一个行政的责任跟一个教育的责任好那我们国中小导师也动长了13年国中小导师的\n515271\t537243\t的這個導師費就是植物家籍導師費也動漲長達13年之久13年之久那所以其實也有很多的教師團體說應該把現在動漲的導師費也應該予以提高不然的話我剛才講了35年漲什麼漲20塊18塊泡麵都買不成然後\n542765\t570302\t13年來導師費從來都沒有調漲過那這個其實在我知道在教育部門質詢的時候都有很多委員問到部長部長也承諾說要提出方案所以部長此時此刻可不可以給我們一個很明確的讓我們第一線現在的不管是終點費也好或者是這個導師費也好可以予以調整\n571618\t601138\t跟我們報告確實院長也有這個指示我們怎麼樣去給中小學老師有一個更好的一個待遇讓他們能夠更安定的能夠來從事教室指導我們的新世代的這些學生我想我們也內部也確實積極在研議但是因為許多的這些國民教育的許多經費上的一些資用那也涉及到地方22個地方縣市院長也特別指示\n602319\t619894\t國教署一定要先跟地方22個地方縣市政府能夠先大家先討論那我們到時候會有一個具體的一個方案什麼時候呢因為我看你在教文委員會就已經講說一個月內要提出一個月已經到了\n620748\t628395\t沒有我們當時大概就是說我們希望配合校事會議的時候大概在12月底之前那當然所以會不會調來來我請我請教院長院間總質詢院長\n634366\t652129\t第一線教師的我剛講包含長期都沒有調整的終點費和導師費是不是應該要調整是跟委員報告部長在日前上個禮拜上一個禮拜兩個禮拜已經來說明過而且在質詢過程過程當中我也接受到這樣的訊息\n653670\t677420\t對長期教師的待遇應該要更合理化但是我們考慮到國中小他應該屬於地方自治事項如果現在的調整未來這個人事費的支應是中央或地方或中央地方如何來協調這個部分一定要跟地方談到地方也願意那我們才能再訂一個方式否則又會變成說中央請客地方買單\n679260\t698648\t所以你的標準要一致喔可是你們每次軍公教調薪你們也就是直接宣布啊對不對軍公教調薪本來就也有地方的那個支出啊所以呢所以我在這邊我就是要院長一句話就是我剛剛說我們現在啊我們面對新的國安問題護理人員我們那時候護理人員應該要加薪啊真的應該要加薪\n705771\t714551\t我們現在這麼多這麼重要的這些領域的人才都在都在喊沒有人這是很可怕的事情教育\n716378\t742129\t這百年大計我們不能讓教育界變成教育成為一個好像是黃昏產業這不可以這樣子絕對不能變成但是現在就是這樣啊考上教師證也不願意來當教師啊我們已經重視了解我們並不是黃昏產業我們大部分的中小學老師還是謹守崗位跟外包委員也非常清楚\n742629\t768040\t我們任何一項最近這三年來的國際評比我們沒有一項是落於五名之後所以這是我們第一線的教師非常非常的認真努力因為我時間有限謝謝部長就是一定要努力好 時間請暫停一下鄭部長請回我請一下我們文化部李部長麻煩請文化部長備選\n784541\t803719\t時間繼續最近監察院針對台灣plus指出了一些缺失而台灣plus從110年到現在已經花掉58億未來還要花40億也就是說我們在台灣plus要砸下百億元但是呢\n804600\t823221\t台灣Plus的爭議不斷不管是說我講的監察院提出這些它有很多的缺失然後包含過去還有英籍的高階編輯離台說我們質疑政治干預了台灣Plus的一個編輯\n824562\t839439\t好更不要說之前這個報導說川普是重刑犯最近還有一個很離譜的事情就是呢有一個12強的紀錄片我們都知道聽拍1這個紀錄片啊院長你也不知道\n840768\t856838\t上線三天就消失了已經消失一個月我們也去問沒有給我們理由沒有給我們理由為什麼消失我認為應該是版權出包了像這種缺失出來好像都靜悄悄的\n858499\t874685\t假裝沒有發生這些事情所以我在這邊具體的來提出Town Plus已經到了應該去檢討它是不是繼續應該存在你看它花這麼多錢以前花這麼多錢\n876993\t898506\t從110年到117年要花將近100億在台灣plus我們有看到他的成效嗎剛才院長我們講到我們很多第一線需要幫他加薪護理人員要加薪軍警應該要加薪然後教師應該加薪都說沒有錢結果我們花在錢花在這些上面\n899326\t923367\t完全錢沒有花在刀口上所以10plus明年的預算我們會嚴格的監督連監察院都提出它的成效有問題然後還要不要花這麼多錢我們是不是應該把我們有限的資源移到應該去第一線該加薪的就去加薪院長你是不是覺得這種錢花的我真的不曉得\n924088\t945714\t看不出任何成效啊文化部能夠對於台灣plus的編輯台以及所有的記者能夠在座通盤的了解他真正要plus台灣的一個功能他的存在才有他的價值對沒有錯如果按照現在我們也可以去比啊比如像韓國阿里郎如果你先去比較我們的點閱率我們的數量好\n955527\t956337\t好 謝謝王虹\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席我先請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢我也先請我們的教育部長麻煩再請教育部長備詢黃委員好院長好和我們政部長好委員好院長可能因為今天\n我們的教文的質詢除了我們麥玉珍委員因為他今天在立法院有一個新住民的座談因為他來自於全國的新住民的代表但是我看到我們執政黨的委員今天竟然有高達六位委員都提出書面質詢我不曉得是認為我們的教文的質詢不重要還是在體恤院長的心不會跟委員報告\n在這裡的總諮詢無論是口頭跟書面行政院一樣的重視一樣重視我們的這個教育文化的委員們也許在委員會當中跟部長都清楚的了解那今天他即使提出書面諮詢我們也會詳細的來答但是這麼多位的委員提出書面確實是在立法院比較少見好那院長先請教院長最近在\n国内热议的一个议题就是诈骗最近一个跨国的太子集团因为它整个的洗钱高达好几百亿而在台湾被台湾确定它的不法所得就高达45亿元之多\n在上個星期他們這些涉案人陸續有人被羈押有人被交保其中有一個這樣的畫面就是有一位特助在被交保了之後這樣的開懷的燦笑而引起台灣國內輿論的嘩然認為一個這樣的跨國的詐騙集團而且他的光是在台灣不罰所得就已經超過45億元\n但是交保竟然少少的15萬元所以院長你看到這樣的畫面這樣的一個新聞你震怒嗎我一直對於這樣的結果我認為是對我們第一線的檢調人員世紀極大的打擊\n很不容易發現一個詐團把他的首腦或是相關的人員把他抓到了逮捕到了結果法院輕輕的幾萬塊錢交保這個不僅是國人的觀感不好對這些執法人員士氣是極大的打擊我認為詐騙的方式我們要有效的防詐行政司法要同步來執行\n所以连院长都看不下去所以我在这边要特别讲一下因为前阵子我们关心的比如说川普到亚洲访问在东协他们开会的时候就是韩国的总统李在明\n他針對南韓大學生在柬埔寨被虐死那麼他震怒而且他直接跟國際犯罪組織宣戰他說如果這些國際犯罪組織膽敢碰韓國人或將其捲入犯罪我們要讓他知道結局只有家破人亡\n這是李在明對國際犯罪組織的一個宣戰那麼就是因為他震怒然後在這個十月份在東南亞舉行東協會議的時候呢李在明就跟柬埔寨的這個領導人見面非常快速的\n在柬埔寨所有韓國涉案的這些詐騙的這些歹徒全部送到韓國去接受司法制裁可是呢我們必須說前陣子我們也是討論到\n台灣到現在還是很多人被騙到柬埔寨結果我們只能在機場裡面去舉標語說要小心詐騙所以我要講的是我非常肯定剛才院長這樣的答覆雖然這個是司法院肯定說這是司法獨立\n但是司法不能夠自外於我們整個的社會觀感司法不能自外於我們打擊詐騙打擊犯罪的一個決心對不對所以在這邊我利用今天的這個總諮詢我覺得還是要提醒院長和行政單位院長其實我今天為什麼特別選擇教文呢我剛才說其實我們最近教育出了很大的問題\n最近討論最多的就是我們的教師荒到今年這個學期其實很多學校在開學之後還在徵老師\n有很多學校開學了好幾個月還在缺老師那有很多的學校因為老師極度的缺乏所以呢很多老師事實上呢他是超時在工作所以我必須講現在全台的教師荒已經成為了我們的新國安問題我們這幾年來護理人員缺\n軍警缺軍警消缺然後現在教師缺所以這是社會這個國家最中間的力量這樣大量的缺乏人才這是我們必須去正視的\n所以我在這邊請教我們的部長我剛剛有提到很多學校到了10月份還在徵老師那也有學校說他們真的44次還是招不到老師所以我在這邊直接的\n像就教育院長和部長我們現在其實教育第一線之所以這樣人才極度的缺乏有很多很多的原因但是我在這邊特別提到這個事實上在我們的教文的部門的質詢的時候我也有看到比如說像葛如軍委員他曾經就去整理我們教師的終點費\n國小教師終點費還有國中教師及高中教師終點費他去統計從美國是79年一直到現在35年35年這個物價都不知道飛漲到什麼程度了一碗滷肉飯都不曉得已經漲成什麼樣子了對不對可是部長院長你知道嗎我們國小教師的終點費35年調升\n是76块35年调了76块以现在来讲一个便当都买不到我们高中教师的终点费还有国中教师终点费35年调生只有18块到20块\n我們葛珠區委員說這搞不好一支比較好的原子筆都買不到現在連泡麵都買不到所以長期以來我們第一線的教師用他們的使命用他們的熱情但是呢因為現在沒有什麼尊師重道的精神再加上他們第一線其實壓力非常大我在這邊就要特別為第一線的教師們請命這個也是大家討論很多的剛才我講的終點\n还有就是导师费大家都知道你要担任导师的话你到了晚上都还要跟家长的群组LINE大家东问西问你不可能就这样轻轻松松的就下班了所以导师事实上他肩负非常大的一个行政的责任跟一个教育的责任好那我们国中小导师也动长了13年国中小导师的\n的這個導師費就是植物家籍導師費也動漲長達13年之久13年之久那所以其實也有很多的教師團體說應該把現在動漲的導師費也應該予以提高不然的話我剛才講了35年漲什麼漲20塊18塊泡麵都買不成然後\n13年來導師費從來都沒有調漲過那這個其實在我知道在教育部門質詢的時候都有很多委員問到部長部長也承諾說要提出方案所以部長此時此刻可不可以給我們一個很明確的讓我們第一線現在的不管是終點費也好或者是這個導師費也好可以予以調整\n跟我們報告確實院長也有這個指示我們怎麼樣去給中小學老師有一個更好的一個待遇讓他們能夠更安定的能夠來從事教室指導我們的新世代的這些學生我想我們也內部也確實積極在研議但是因為許多的這些國民教育的許多經費上的一些資用那也涉及到地方22個地方縣市院長也特別指示\n國教署一定要先跟地方22個地方縣市政府能夠先大家先討論那我們到時候會有一個具體的一個方案什麼時候呢因為我看你在教文委員會就已經講說一個月內要提出一個月已經到了\n沒有我們當時大概就是說我們希望配合校事會議的時候大概在12月底之前那當然所以會不會調來來我請我請教院長院間總質詢院長\n第一線教師的我剛講包含長期都沒有調整的終點費和導師費是不是應該要調整是跟委員報告部長在日前上個禮拜上一個禮拜兩個禮拜已經來說明過而且在質詢過程過程當中我也接受到這樣的訊息\n對長期教師的待遇應該要更合理化但是我們考慮到國中小他應該屬於地方自治事項如果現在的調整未來這個人事費的支應是中央或地方或中央地方如何來協調這個部分一定要跟地方談到地方也願意那我們才能再訂一個方式否則又會變成說中央請客地方買單\n所以你的標準要一致喔可是你們每次軍公教調薪你們也就是直接宣布啊對不對軍公教調薪本來就也有地方的那個支出啊所以呢所以我在這邊我就是要院長一句話就是我剛剛說我們現在啊我們面對新的國安問題護理人員我們那時候護理人員應該要加薪啊真的應該要加薪\n我們現在這麼多這麼重要的這些領域的人才都在都在喊沒有人這是很可怕的事情教育\n這百年大計我們不能讓教育界變成教育成為一個好像是黃昏產業這不可以這樣子絕對不能變成但是現在就是這樣啊考上教師證也不願意來當教師啊我們已經重視了解我們並不是黃昏產業我們大部分的中小學老師還是謹守崗位跟外包委員也非常清楚\n我們任何一項最近這三年來的國際評比我們沒有一項是落於五名之後所以這是我們第一線的教師非常非常的認真努力因為我時間有限謝謝部長就是一定要努力好 時間請暫停一下鄭部長請回我請一下我們文化部李部長麻煩請文化部長備選\n時間繼續最近監察院針對台灣plus指出了一些缺失而台灣plus從110年到現在已經花掉58億未來還要花40億也就是說我們在台灣plus要砸下百億元但是呢\n台灣Plus的爭議不斷不管是說我講的監察院提出這些它有很多的缺失然後包含過去還有英籍的高階編輯離台說我們質疑政治干預了台灣Plus的一個編輯\n好更不要說之前這個報導說川普是重刑犯最近還有一個很離譜的事情就是呢有一個12強的紀錄片我們都知道聽拍1這個紀錄片啊院長你也不知道\n上線三天就消失了已經消失一個月我們也去問沒有給我們理由沒有給我們理由為什麼消失我認為應該是版權出包了像這種缺失出來好像都靜悄悄的\n假裝沒有發生這些事情所以我在這邊具體的來提出Town Plus已經到了應該去檢討它是不是繼續應該存在你看它花這麼多錢以前花這麼多錢\n從110年到117年要花將近100億在台灣plus我們有看到他的成效嗎剛才院長我們講到我們很多第一線需要幫他加薪護理人員要加薪軍警應該要加薪然後教師應該加薪都說沒有錢結果我們花在錢花在這些上面\n完全錢沒有花在刀口上所以10plus明年的預算我們會嚴格的監督連監察院都提出它的成效有問題然後還要不要花這麼多錢我們是不是應該把我們有限的資源移到應該去第一線該加薪的就去加薪院長你是不是覺得這種錢花的我真的不曉得\n看不出任何成效啊文化部能夠對於台灣plus的編輯台以及所有的記者能夠在座通盤的了解他真正要plus台灣的一個功能他的存在才有他的價值對沒有錯如果按照現在我們也可以去比啊比如像韓國阿里郎如果你先去比較我們的點閱率我們的數量好\n好 謝謝王虹\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.131 --> 00:14.780\n好謝謝主席我先請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢我也先請我們的教育部長麻煩再請教育部長備詢黃委員好院長好和我們政部長好委員好院長可能因為今天\n\n00:32.639 --> 00:59.474\n我們的教文的質詢除了我們麥玉珍委員因為他今天在立法院有一個新住民的座談因為他來自於全國的新住民的代表但是我看到我們執政黨的委員今天竟然有高達六位委員都提出書面質詢我不曉得是認為我們的教文的質詢不重要還是在體恤院長的心不會跟委員報告\n\n01:00.094 --> 01:22.975\n在這裡的總諮詢無論是口頭跟書面行政院一樣的重視一樣重視我們的這個教育文化的委員們也許在委員會當中跟部長都清楚的了解那今天他即使提出書面諮詢我們也會詳細的來答但是這麼多位的委員提出書面確實是在立法院比較少見好那院長先請教院長最近在\n\n01:24.056 --> 01:42.416\n国内热议的一个议题就是诈骗最近一个跨国的太子集团因为它整个的洗钱高达好几百亿而在台湾被台湾确定它的不法所得就高达45亿元之多\n\n01:43.617 --> 02:10.164\n在上個星期他們這些涉案人陸續有人被羈押有人被交保其中有一個這樣的畫面就是有一位特助在被交保了之後這樣的開懷的燦笑而引起台灣國內輿論的嘩然認為一個這樣的跨國的詐騙集團而且他的光是在台灣不罰所得就已經超過45億元\n\n02:12.105 --> 02:20.531\n但是交保竟然少少的15萬元所以院長你看到這樣的畫面這樣的一個新聞你震怒嗎我一直對於這樣的結果我認為是對我們第一線的檢調人員世紀極大的打擊\n\n02:28.820 --> 02:50.633\n很不容易發現一個詐團把他的首腦或是相關的人員把他抓到了逮捕到了結果法院輕輕的幾萬塊錢交保這個不僅是國人的觀感不好對這些執法人員士氣是極大的打擊我認為詐騙的方式我們要有效的防詐行政司法要同步來執行\n\n02:51.605 --> 03:11.020\n所以连院长都看不下去所以我在这边要特别讲一下因为前阵子我们关心的比如说川普到亚洲访问在东协他们开会的时候就是韩国的总统李在明\n\n03:11.781 --> 03:35.135\n他針對南韓大學生在柬埔寨被虐死那麼他震怒而且他直接跟國際犯罪組織宣戰他說如果這些國際犯罪組織膽敢碰韓國人或將其捲入犯罪我們要讓他知道結局只有家破人亡\n\n03:36.335 --> 03:56.468\n這是李在明對國際犯罪組織的一個宣戰那麼就是因為他震怒然後在這個十月份在東南亞舉行東協會議的時候呢李在明就跟柬埔寨的這個領導人見面非常快速的\n\n03:57.128 --> 04:12.863\n在柬埔寨所有韓國涉案的這些詐騙的這些歹徒全部送到韓國去接受司法制裁可是呢我們必須說前陣子我們也是討論到\n\n04:14.665 --> 04:32.158\n台灣到現在還是很多人被騙到柬埔寨結果我們只能在機場裡面去舉標語說要小心詐騙所以我要講的是我非常肯定剛才院長這樣的答覆雖然這個是司法院肯定說這是司法獨立\n\n04:32.958 --> 05:00.379\n但是司法不能夠自外於我們整個的社會觀感司法不能自外於我們打擊詐騙打擊犯罪的一個決心對不對所以在這邊我利用今天的這個總諮詢我覺得還是要提醒院長和行政單位院長其實我今天為什麼特別選擇教文呢我剛才說其實我們最近教育出了很大的問題\n\n05:01.826 --> 05:12.545\n最近討論最多的就是我們的教師荒到今年這個學期其實很多學校在開學之後還在徵老師\n\n05:13.740 --> 05:35.946\n有很多學校開學了好幾個月還在缺老師那有很多的學校因為老師極度的缺乏所以呢很多老師事實上呢他是超時在工作所以我必須講現在全台的教師荒已經成為了我們的新國安問題我們這幾年來護理人員缺\n\n05:43.063 --> 05:58.453\n軍警缺軍警消缺然後現在教師缺所以這是社會這個國家最中間的力量這樣大量的缺乏人才這是我們必須去正視的\n\n05:59.554 --> 06:16.601\n所以我在這邊請教我們的部長我剛剛有提到很多學校到了10月份還在徵老師那也有學校說他們真的44次還是招不到老師所以我在這邊直接的\n\n06:17.907 --> 06:44.115\n像就教育院長和部長我們現在其實教育第一線之所以這樣人才極度的缺乏有很多很多的原因但是我在這邊特別提到這個事實上在我們的教文的部門的質詢的時候我也有看到比如說像葛如軍委員他曾經就去整理我們教師的終點費\n\n06:46.096 --> 07:10.969\n國小教師終點費還有國中教師及高中教師終點費他去統計從美國是79年一直到現在35年35年這個物價都不知道飛漲到什麼程度了一碗滷肉飯都不曉得已經漲成什麼樣子了對不對可是部長院長你知道嗎我們國小教師的終點費35年調升\n\n07:14.651 --> 07:32.663\n是76块35年调了76块以现在来讲一个便当都买不到我们高中教师的终点费还有国中教师终点费35年调生只有18块到20块\n\n07:34.448 --> 08:03.587\n我們葛珠區委員說這搞不好一支比較好的原子筆都買不到現在連泡麵都買不到所以長期以來我們第一線的教師用他們的使命用他們的熱情但是呢因為現在沒有什麼尊師重道的精神再加上他們第一線其實壓力非常大我在這邊就要特別為第一線的教師們請命這個也是大家討論很多的剛才我講的終點\n\n08:05.329 --> 08:33.991\n还有就是导师费大家都知道你要担任导师的话你到了晚上都还要跟家长的群组LINE大家东问西问你不可能就这样轻轻松松的就下班了所以导师事实上他肩负非常大的一个行政的责任跟一个教育的责任好那我们国中小导师也动长了13年国中小导师的\n\n08:35.271 --> 08:57.243\n的這個導師費就是植物家籍導師費也動漲長達13年之久13年之久那所以其實也有很多的教師團體說應該把現在動漲的導師費也應該予以提高不然的話我剛才講了35年漲什麼漲20塊18塊泡麵都買不成然後\n\n09:02.765 --> 09:30.302\n13年來導師費從來都沒有調漲過那這個其實在我知道在教育部門質詢的時候都有很多委員問到部長部長也承諾說要提出方案所以部長此時此刻可不可以給我們一個很明確的讓我們第一線現在的不管是終點費也好或者是這個導師費也好可以予以調整\n\n09:31.618 --> 10:01.138\n跟我們報告確實院長也有這個指示我們怎麼樣去給中小學老師有一個更好的一個待遇讓他們能夠更安定的能夠來從事教室指導我們的新世代的這些學生我想我們也內部也確實積極在研議但是因為許多的這些國民教育的許多經費上的一些資用那也涉及到地方22個地方縣市院長也特別指示\n\n10:02.319 --> 10:19.894\n國教署一定要先跟地方22個地方縣市政府能夠先大家先討論那我們到時候會有一個具體的一個方案什麼時候呢因為我看你在教文委員會就已經講說一個月內要提出一個月已經到了\n\n10:20.748 --> 10:28.395\n沒有我們當時大概就是說我們希望配合校事會議的時候大概在12月底之前那當然所以會不會調來來我請我請教院長院間總質詢院長\n\n10:34.366 --> 10:52.129\n第一線教師的我剛講包含長期都沒有調整的終點費和導師費是不是應該要調整是跟委員報告部長在日前上個禮拜上一個禮拜兩個禮拜已經來說明過而且在質詢過程過程當中我也接受到這樣的訊息\n\n10:53.670 --> 11:17.420\n對長期教師的待遇應該要更合理化但是我們考慮到國中小他應該屬於地方自治事項如果現在的調整未來這個人事費的支應是中央或地方或中央地方如何來協調這個部分一定要跟地方談到地方也願意那我們才能再訂一個方式否則又會變成說中央請客地方買單\n\n11:19.260 --> 11:38.648\n所以你的標準要一致喔可是你們每次軍公教調薪你們也就是直接宣布啊對不對軍公教調薪本來就也有地方的那個支出啊所以呢所以我在這邊我就是要院長一句話就是我剛剛說我們現在啊我們面對新的國安問題護理人員我們那時候護理人員應該要加薪啊真的應該要加薪\n\n11:45.771 --> 11:54.551\n我們現在這麼多這麼重要的這些領域的人才都在都在喊沒有人這是很可怕的事情教育\n\n11:56.378 --> 12:22.129\n這百年大計我們不能讓教育界變成教育成為一個好像是黃昏產業這不可以這樣子絕對不能變成但是現在就是這樣啊考上教師證也不願意來當教師啊我們已經重視了解我們並不是黃昏產業我們大部分的中小學老師還是謹守崗位跟外包委員也非常清楚\n\n12:22.629 --> 12:48.040\n我們任何一項最近這三年來的國際評比我們沒有一項是落於五名之後所以這是我們第一線的教師非常非常的認真努力因為我時間有限謝謝部長就是一定要努力好時間請暫停一下鄭部長請回我請一下我們文化部李部長麻煩請文化部長備選\n\n13:04.541 --> 13:23.719\n時間繼續最近監察院針對台灣plus指出了一些缺失而台灣plus從110年到現在已經花掉58億未來還要花40億也就是說我們在台灣plus要砸下百億元但是呢\n\n13:24.600 --> 13:43.221\n台灣Plus的爭議不斷不管是說我講的監察院提出這些它有很多的缺失然後包含過去還有英籍的高階編輯離台說我們質疑政治干預了台灣Plus的一個編輯\n\n13:44.562 --> 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Taiwan」，這個紀錄片院長一定不知道，上線3天就消失了，已經消失1個月，我們也去問了，但沒有給我們理由，沒有告訴我們為什麼消失，我認為應該是版權出包了啦！像這種缺失出現後好像都靜悄悄的，假裝沒有發生這些事情，所以我在這邊具體的提出，TaiwanPlus已經到了應該要去檢討是不是繼續應該存在的時候，你看它花這麼多錢耶，以前花了這麼多錢，從110年到117年要花將近100億在TaiwanPlus上，但我們有看到它的成效嗎？","院長，剛才我講到我們很多第一線人員需要幫他們加薪，護理人員要加薪、軍警應該要加薪、教師應該要加薪，都說沒有錢，結果我們把錢花在這些上面，錢完全沒有花在刀口上，所以TaiwanPlus明年的預算我們會嚴格的監督，連監察院都提出它的成效有問題了，還要不要花這麼多錢？我們是不是應該把政府有限的資源移到第一線該加薪的就去加薪，院長，你是不是覺得這種錢花的……我真的不曉得，看不出任何成效啊！"],["卓院長榮泰：我們希望文化部能夠對於TaiwanPlus的編輯臺以及所有記者再做通盤的瞭解真正要Plus Taiwan的一個功能，這樣它的存在才有價值。"],["王委員鴻薇：對，沒有錯，現在我們也可以去比較啦，比如像韓國阿里郎，如果今天去做比較，我們的點閱率、我們的數量，都真的差太多了！真的，當省則省，把錢用在刀口上，這是很重要的事情。"],["卓院長榮泰：好，謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝王鴻薇委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長及相關部會首長備詢，謝謝。","接下來登記第5位郭昱晴委員、第6位吳思瑤委員、第7位陳俊宇委員，三位委員之質詢均以書面提出，請行政院以書面委員答復，並列入紀錄，刊登公報。"],["委員郭昱晴書面質詢：","案由：運動部升格後，臺灣體育發展迎來新機遇，但教育部與運動部在職掌上正式分流，使得「運動與教育」交界領域的制度性漏接風險倍增。無論是學生運動員的學業保障、訓練體系完整性、升學與退役銜接、基層師資與設施整合，或跨專業支援（如運動醫療、心理與運科），可能因兩部會協作而出現責任不清、資源重複或落差。為確保人才培育鏈的穩定與完整，建請行政院成立體育教育跨部會協調平台，專責統整跨域議題，並公開會議紀錄，以提升透明度、強化協作效率。","說明：","一、教育部主管學籍、課務與教師排課，運動部主管訓練、競技與選手培育，若兩者缺乏制度化協調，學生運動員在課表安排、課業補救、訓練時段與學分修習之間，極易出現衝突。兼顧學業與訓練的制度需要雙方共同設計，才能保障學生運動員的學習權益與未來選擇。","二、在基層設施、場館管理及適應體育推動上，教育部與運動部權責交織。校園體育館的開放規範、無障礙改善、適應體育課程與社區身障運動推廣，皆必須跨部整合，若未統合規劃，將可能出現資源重複投入、場館使用效率低、師資培訓不一致等問題。","三、運動醫療、運動心理與運科等跨專業支持體系分屬兩部會：教育部管理校護與心理輔導、運動部管理運科與競技支援，若缺乏明確分工與資訊共享，學生運動員在傷害處置、復健安排、心理支持或訓練科學化上容易遭遇銜接不順，形成照顧斷層，影響選手長期發展。","四、在升學與退役銜接方面，教育部主導入學制度與生涯輔導，運動部主導運動成績認證與選手培訓，兩者若未整合，可能造成選手升學評量標準不一致、運動成績無法有效反映在入學管道上，也使退役選手在轉型、第二專長培育與職涯規劃上缺乏明確支援。","五、教練培訓與體育師資培育兩套體系由不同部會管理，若不協調整合，可能出現教練制度與學校教師制度脫節、師資培訓重複、適應體育與身障教育培訓不一致等情況，導致基層人力不足、專業標準混亂。","六、學生運動員的學籍資料、訓練紀錄與競技成績如果由不同部會分開管理，缺乏系統整合。若資料無法互通，不僅政策分析失準，也使家長與學校難以掌握完整資訊，不利於學業、訓練、健康三者的整合管理。"],["委員吳思瑤書面質詢：","案由：本院吳委員思瑤，有鑒於文化為推動國家品牌與軟實力外交之核心，可視為國際外交之重要支柱，政府應研謀持續整合文化部與外交部資源，建立跨部會文化外交機制，積極拓展國際文化網絡，以強化台灣文化於全球之能見度與影響力，特向行政院提出質詢。","說明：","一、擴大文化據點與簽署文化協定，厚植國際文化網絡。","(一)本席於2018年10月9日以「設計跨界公眾外交，善用東京奧運契機，打造台灣國家品牌」為題質詢行政院，獲得時任院長賴清德允諾推動，將善用大型海外指標展會Mega Event平台，串聯各界資源共同打造台灣的國家品牌形象，以文化為核心的外交新模式。","(二)文化部與外交部已於2025年2月召開「雙部長會商」，將文化外交列為外交政策重點項目，擬共同推動文化外交，由外交部主責歐洲臺灣文化年，文化部主責日本大阪世博「We TAIWAN」等大型海外展會平台之文化展演活動。足可顯見目前文化外交推動仍以個案為主，亟需整體戰略規劃。","(三)根據外交部提供資料，我國駐外使領單位有113處，文化部駐外設組僅17處、佔15%，且集中亞太、歐洲、北美地區特定國家，恐患寡亦患不均，且我國現存之12個邦交國大使館更未派遣文化專業之人員進駐。","(四)經盤點我國與邦交國所簽署之文化協定，自1962年「中華民國與喀麥隆聯邦共和國文化協定」至1999年「中華民國政府與馬其頓共和國政府間文化合作協定」共計11個，僅1977年簽署「中華民國與瓜地馬拉共和國間文化協定」尚存，自此後未有與邦交國之文化協定簽署，且據悉我國與瓜地馬拉簽署「中華民國與瓜地馬拉共和國間文化協定」屆期後自動展延5年，協定迄仍持續有效，卻未將瓜地馬拉視為文化外交之重點區域，甚至其大使館更未派員，如同形同虛設，恐與該文化協定精神相悖離。","(五)近期由駐臺北以色列經濟文化辦事處代表與我國駐臺拉維夫代表所簽署之「臺以文化合作協定」，目前以色列亦未設立文化組並未派員，恐使不利推動相關文化交流，使其停留於象徵性文件層級，足顯見其組織編制有檢討空間，請行政院協調外交部、文化部針對簽署文化協定與各國派員情事積極檢討，並於兩個月內向本席提出書面報告回覆。","二、參與國際文化保存體系，進而鏈結聯合國教科文組織。","(一)本席於2023年2月24日、2024年9月20日分別質詢行政院，要求重啟申列世界文化遺產，並將加入聯合國教育、科學及文化組織（以下簡稱UNESCO）列為我國推動加入國際組織之重點單位，並分別獲得時任院長陳建仁、現任院長卓榮泰肯首，將會列為政策推動重點，後續已重啟臺灣世界遺產推動會，以及新設臺灣非物質文化遺產推動會。","(二)經查外交部參與國際組織官方網站，仍未將聯合國教育、科學及文化組織（UNESCO）列為重點參與組織，根據第一屆臺灣非物質文化遺產推動會之會議紀錄結論，擬請外交部協助文化部推動參與UNESCO相關外圍國際組織，並評估於國外設置文化展演據點，目前似無進度，請行政院督導外交部針對改善上述情事，並提供相關進度說明，於兩個月內向本席提出書面報告回覆。","三、落實強化跨部會協作機制，共促文化永續與外交推動。","(一)賴清德總統於競選期間宣示推動文化國家希望工程，提出兩大承諾，包括：一、每年度寬列文化預算，並持續提高；二、推動跨域文化治理，強化「行政院文化會報」機制，落實《文化基本法》。","(二)有鑒於文化輸出須仰賴穩定資金與持續人才培育，經查現行之《文化基本法》第24條，文化發展基金設置用途為辦理文化發展及公共媒體等相關事項。經查文化部業於2022年預告修正《文化基本法》第24條，擬明定文化發展基金財源，迄今尚未送請利法院審議，以致文化發展基金財源未趨穩定，為落實賴清德總統推動「文化永續世界臺灣」之精神，請行政院評估於設置用途之條文，增設文化外交之可行性，俾利推動文化館所合作、設置文化獎學金、參與大型海外指標展會Mega Event、擴大吸引海外文化人才等面向，並盡速送立法院審查。","(三)為落實賴清德總統推動跨域文化治理，強化「行政院文化會報」機制之願景，建請行政院應將「如何推動文化外交」列為跨域文化治理之重點項目，並於文化會報進行追蹤。綜上所述，請於兩個月內向本席提出書面報告回覆。"],["委員陳俊宇書面質詢：","壹、促進水域運動，打造國際場地","宜蘭推動水上運動已行之有年，安農溪素有「天然輕艇激流標桿場地」之美譽，為全國輕艇激流運動的重鎮。今年行政院政委到安農溪視察，提出將指示體育署（運動部）全力協助縣政府興建國家訓練中心計畫，以利做為培育輕艇選手的重要基地。宜蘭縣政府教育處亦表示，將積極爭取國家選手訓練中心：","一、運動部是否已收到縣府相關規劃的提報、並且已對選址方案進行專業評估與指導，並規劃完整的「場館─訓練中心─選手培育」方案，包括選手訓練基地、教練培育、後勤生活設施及對外開放等，以確保該場地不僅能舉辦國際性競技賽事，也能長期支援宜蘭縣及全國水上運動之發展。","二、根據「水域運動資源中心推動示範計畫」，若能促成安農溪場地與地方大專院校合作推展水域運動教育，將有助於深化學生參與並擴展在地青年投入水域運動的層面。宜蘭縣具備得天獨厚的水域環境條件，運動部是否已有具體規劃，協助在地大專院校與場館建立合作機制，共同推動相關課程體驗、訓練交流及安全教育？中央是否規劃提供師資培訓與設備資源，支持學校開展相關課程與活動，讓學生能實際參與並延續水域運動文化的發展？","三、縣府目前規劃對場地實行「使用者付費」機制，以減輕後續維護財政壓力，並已訂定管理要點，擬於年底研擬收費標準。作為中央主責單位，若地方未來的收費機制無法達成預期回收或維護功能，甚至形成地方財政負擔，運動部是否有配套機制，或提供補助以支應後續維護？","安農溪輕艇激流賽道的啟用，是宜蘭邁向國際的重要一步。中央與地方若能在後續營運管理、人才培育與永續發展上協力並進，方能讓這項重大投資真正成為推動地方運動產業與城市發展的關鍵動能，而非僅止於一次性的國際賽事成果。","貳、推廣全民運動，完善場館設施","宜蘭縣素以「多雨」聞名，全年平均降雨日逾200天，遭逢梅雨季、颱風、東北季風時降雨更加集中。如此天候條件，使得室外運動場地的使用大幅受限，不僅社區團體推廣運動、各級學校體育課程的推動備受考驗，對於宜蘭縣辦理國內外大型競技賽事、展演活動、供民眾觀賞娛樂表演之需求，皆面臨極大挑戰。地方對於建置能夠兼顧競技、訓練、全民運動、展演功能之室內綜合場館，表達殷切期盼。然而，興建如「小巨蛋」之場館設施，不但需龐大經費支持、對於後續營運亦須有長期且縝密之規劃：","一、宜蘭縣雖有部分學校之體育館，然硬體量能有限、難以符合使用需求。依「均衡台灣」的理念及推廣全民運動之政策，行政院及運動部對於宜蘭縣建置大型綜合運動場館，是否予以支持？","二、宜蘭縣近年倡導推行匹克球等新興運動，然礙於縣內無專屬該項目之場地，僅得依附於主流運動項目之場地使用，確實有建置合適場地設施之必要，縣府對此提出之需求，再請中央全力協助。請問運動部對於新興、社區運動之推動方向為何？對於全民運動設施的優化及建構、又如何落實？","參、發揚傳統戲曲，在地文化傳承","宜蘭被譽為「歌仔戲的故鄉」，是臺灣本土戲曲的發源地。歌仔戲源自宜蘭在地的「本地歌仔」，融合民間歌謠與車鼓小戲，逐漸發展出完整的表演體系，成為最具代表性的臺灣戲曲之一：","一、宜蘭為歌仔戲之起源地，現雖有傳藝中心及演藝廳等表演場地，惟目前可供觀眾欣賞表演的場地選擇仍然有限，整體宣傳亦略顯不足、藝文氛圍不夠熱絡。請文化部會同縣府，評估規劃更多適合歌仔戲展演的專屬空間，提升發源地的展演量能與觀眾體驗。","二、宜蘭縣政府最近已完成「歌仔戲文物普查與保存計畫」第二期，成功建立在地劇團文物保存現況之初步輪廓，並預計持續推動第三期及主題式研究，顯示地方在研究層面已具基礎。然而，歌仔戲文物的保存與活化，仍有賴中央持續支持與制度性投入。","請問文化部，是否已規劃將宜蘭縣歌仔戲文物普查第三期及後續研究納入文化資產保存的中長期計畫，並在經費、人力及專業輔導上提供穩定支持？同時，是否能考慮建立「戲服共享平台」，整合新興劇團、學校與文化機構資源，讓文物重回展演現場，成為文化再生的契機？","三、歌仔戲蘊含豐富的語言、音樂與表演教育價值，若能與學校教育結合，有助於青少年對在地傳統藝術的認同。教育部近年推動藝術教育扎根，但目前「歌仔戲進校園」多以短期活動為主，難以形成長效。","請問教育部是否規劃與文化部協作，將歌仔戲納入藝文課程，或與地方大學、職校合作開設相關學程，讓學生能實際參與戲曲表演與製作？中央是否也能提供師資培訓與教材資源，協助教師具備引導學生接觸地方戲曲的能力？","歌仔戲不僅是宜蘭的重要文化資產，更是臺灣傳統藝術的象徵。中央若能與地方建立常態協作機制，整合「劇團發展─教育傳承─文物保存─觀眾拓展」四大面向，將有助於形成完整的文化生態鏈，確保這項根植於臺灣土地的藝術能持續生生不息，並在地發光、向外發展。","肆、改善宜科環境，帶動產業升級","2004年，政府為打造北部高科技產業帶，選定「宜蘭科學園區」發展「數位創意」與「通訊知識服務」產業。2005年獲行政院核定籌設，規劃以精密機械、生物科技、綠能、通訊及光電元件材料系統等五大產業為主，並開放量產，以滿足產業用地與智慧應用需求。","而在地理區位上，經由國道五號北宜高速公路，宜蘭科學園區到大台北地區只要40分鐘，充份連結大台北生活圈。北有27公頃宜蘭運動公園，離市中心5分鐘路程，南接宜蘭縣政府以及宜蘭大學城南校區，滿足休閒、工作、運動與生活等多方面需求，配合完善的公共設施，鄰近學校及優質住宅區，充分提供安心工作環境。未來十年，高鐵將延伸至宜蘭，宜蘭新站即座落園區旁的縣政中心，建構快速便捷的公共交通路網。","惟經查，宜蘭科學園區總面積70.99公頃，扣除公共設施及綠帶整體可供出租土地面積31.96公頃，目前僅出租13.09公頃，尚有18.87公頃處於閒置空間：","一、中央政府為均衡台灣，將北北基宜規劃為「首都圈黃金廊帶」，盼將雙北產業優勢擴展至宜蘭，惟多年來宜蘭科學園區之產學研群聚效應遲未形成，園區招商之成效不如預期，主管機關應提出改善措施及目標，以推動產業群聚、提升產學研量能，促進廠商進駐宜蘭科學園區。","二、政府積極推動「五大信賴產業」、「AI新十大建設」，以確保台灣下一個世代的國際競爭優勢。宜蘭科學園區周邊即聚集多所大專院校，包括國立宜蘭大學已響應「AI島」之願景，與業界建立產學合作關係，積極推動東部地區的人工智慧AI技術發展，期望成為區域AI應用與研究之核心樞紐。請中央政府將宜蘭科學園區納入AI發展之重要據點，積極完善相關設施建置、規劃人才培育及攬才之政策，提供園區發展AI產業更友善之環境，以強化宜蘭科學園區之競爭優勢，進一步協助宜蘭縣產業經濟升級。","宜蘭科學園區的發展潛力絕不亞於其他地區，但若缺乏中央整體規劃與政策扶植，其發展將持續受限，連帶影響縣內整體經濟發展，遂要求行政院、國科會及相關部會務必正視此問題，提出具體改善之措施。"],["主席：接下來請羅美玲委員質詢，黃捷委員請準備。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":180,"meet_id":"院會-11-4-8","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣","吳宗憲","賴瑞隆","顏寬恒","林楚茵","賴士葆","黃捷","何欣純","陳亭妃","丁學忠","劉建國","莊瑞雄","李柏毅","林德福","葛如鈞","賴惠員","黃珊珊","林楚茵","呂玉玲","麥玉珍","鄭正鈐","王鴻薇","郭昱晴","吳思瑤","陳俊宇","羅美玲","范雲","李坤城","張雅琳"],"page_start":85,"meetingDate":["2025-11-11"],"gazette_id":"1149101","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1149101_00004","1149101_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第4會期第8次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢─繼續質詢─","agenda_id":"1149101_00005"}}}