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知道說預算的提案"},{"start":2475.899,"end":2482.234,"text":"只是初步的在院長的預算協商的時候才會請所有的部會來說明嘛"},{"start":2483.448,"end":2509.693,"text":"甚至有一些部會已經來我的辦公室在昨天之前都已經來辦公室那有一些預算刪減案也已經都被委員會的刪減案處理了那我們都在加速政府預算的審理的情況那沒有想到要破壞都已經是慣例的事情要拿來當作"},{"start":2512.031,"end":2539.839,"text":"指稱我個人的提案我覺得這是非常不當的這是會破壞整個協商的這樣子的一個互信的基礎那這樣子大家怎麼協商下去呢我們知道給在野黨協商是在立法院裡面你們過半數以後也要給在野的小黨他們有表達意見的權利嗎 是不是"},{"start":2542.594,"end":2544.836,"text":"有關於鄭文忠委員﹚剛才所發言﹚以及謝鴻偉所發言﹚在過去"},{"start":2565.697,"end":2589.378,"text":"我在這裡30年,隨便亂論。我在當執政黨的時間和當在野黨的時間各一半,但是我總召之後20年。所以我非常了解立法院這是一個政治的禁忌場所,但是有些潛規則大家還是要守著。比如說以前沒有直播的時候,我跟論壇協商的話,裡面誰講的話,到目前為止,"},{"start":2590.299,"end":2599.708,"text":"我們私下談的或是在行政中心談的我絕對不會出去做新聞或是去攻擊人這是我長期以來所以大家才有互信的基礎"},{"start":2602.551,"end":2623.757,"text":"你不要再轉了不要再打了,按就好按就好這是一個互信的基礎那因為現在網路時代所以消息資訊傳遞很快那這個馬上有些直擊新聞,過去也沒有這個回事所以我在這裡還是比較懇切的講就是說總預算通過就是"},{"start":2628.678,"end":2638.375,"text":"要有成比例,不成比例的手法全部不成總預算才不好是對彼此都不好,對院長也不好,對整個國家也不好那我已經講過,我們會秉持這個原則"},{"start":2643.587,"end":2668.498,"text":"在協商還是溝通中的事情,我們就不要拿出來比如工具,這樣才大家要互信嘛那過去,你說國民黨常任執政,國民黨常任執政實施的時候,我民國80年進來那2000年的時候,都是國民黨執政但是呢,那時候我們現在執政是比較就是說,好全部拿出來案子,然後到各位去溝通"},{"start":2670.519,"end":2697.57,"text":"過去根本沒有這回事,過去說下來直接大家沉香舌戰因為現在環境面不一樣,有所謂公入門公入門會看大家提案,提案數,所以大家要一直製造案子37年總預算大概四五千案,但後來在國中一直少所以我們偶爾覺得提案有的,像過去曾經也有一個案子"},{"start":2698.55,"end":2721.873,"text":"拆成五十個案子一樣3.0.1、0.2、0.3、0.4、0.5這樣搞法阿這衝一樣嘛阿給公眾們看所以立法委員要做自己比較重要我想我們共同這樣美麗阿那今天我們對於齁在學生中的在國共中的不應該拿出來做彼此攻擊等到表決完畢要罵再來罵也可以阿是不是這樣"},{"start":2723.395,"end":2723.815,"text":"我講得很實情喔"},{"start":2744.685,"end":2757.59,"text":"議員大家都要各負責,包括今天對立公知法,我們上台講我們的話,你們上台講你的話,就大家罵嘛,即便已經院會結束以後,有人再出來開舉再罵一次,因為坦白講這個有"},{"start":2759.17,"end":2778.997,"text":"法案是很專業的,從一個角度看儀館揮爆,從另外一個角度看是不一樣的所以才會造成政治上很多衝突來糾紛,因為很多要很內行看到前茂的市長不多所以政治上才有工法嘛那我也在這裡期待就是說,我前面要跟你講啦"},{"start":2780.197,"end":2784.179,"text":"我們把總預算弄完但是我再建議在進行以前可能我們要先談一個事情因為總預算在整個廢棋這樣審完"},{"start":2802.862,"end":2825.235,"text":"總預算是兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行要談多少?兩兆八千八百億那行"},{"start":2827.705,"end":2829.026,"text":"希望這一屆畫上一個圓滿的記號好不好"},{"start":2855.919,"end":2883.156,"text":"好 陳教委好 院長 那個實地黨團在問 因為昨天這個是執政黨的這個發言 發文不當嘛所以我們延宕了昨天的協商 那今天我們協商這個通案完畢 要不要再繼續進行內政的這個預算提案的協商要說時間啦 我們早上晚上十幾點就好了 好不好"},{"start":2884.212,"end":2909.612,"text":"好 那就是聽聽大家要不要繼續在審那個內政 不然我們每次到這個時候就是一直加班一直加班嘛那不管誰 每一年都這樣好 這就是我的發言 因為你看大家都站在那裡因為期盼他們預算能夠有一個有一個走路吧所以今天我們先談一下就從 我們明天早上來談三點數多少 這個很重要"},{"start":2910.97,"end":2916.274,"text":"這幾天在協商希望民進黨黨不要再吐槽了你如果不在就再吐槽了那第二個晚上"},{"start":2939.569,"end":2963.762,"text":"10點吧 不要到12點10點就很晚了今天嗎今天最晚10點那我告訴你喔 保安有去交通的那些喔阿你們就錄在社會嘛 心情還沒打開那現在應該心情打開 趕快趕快撤 趕快撤 趕快送出來嘛他們一直很努力在溝通 今天下午也去溝通 每天都在溝通 好不好"},{"start":2964.502,"end":2987.026,"text":"因為我們要讓部會他們那個好暗想好暗想 因為有 本來是有兩個 一個就說看要多嚴幾點 一個就說二三個通案先解決 現在才比較早來 那就把它講清楚今天晚上到十點 那明天幾點開始 明天早上九點喔 過去都這樣啊九點到幾點 你講清楚 因為現在選舉到了"},{"start":2990.543,"end":3015.415,"text":"國際我們都是在這裡吃便當 有時候在熱身 火車委員會大概都要來嘛因為現在剩下四天而已啊對 那講完嘛 明天幾點 九點到幾點九點到十二點 十二點以後 換休息半個鐘頭 一個鐘頭 然後就一直接下去嘛雖然時間就下來 我們國際都吃完飯馬上來 有時候發便當嘛這現場採取的事情就可以了 看速度啦好好 後面啦 要過來"},{"start":3017.745,"end":3019.646,"text":"要九點還要十點啦?要九點還要十點啦?要九點還要十點啦?"},{"start":3047.073,"end":3047.273,"text":"主席"},{"start":3060.865,"end":3082.405,"text":"待會晚上10點 待會吃飯的時候休息 休息時間待會再來講但是呢 各部會很認真去溝通有約修改變成組結議 那些部分你們趕快聲明送上來我們再近啦 我們要想了想了好啦好啦 那我遞出來看看啦"},{"start":3084.802,"end":3085.722,"text":"行政院秘書長李孟彥先生"},{"start":3116.051,"end":3141.469,"text":"行政院主席總署主席長 朱哲銘先生財政部的 莊翠雲女士市會發展部的 唐鳳部長國防部的 邱國正部長暫時介紹到這裡介紹得到嗎我們請大家看第一案看通案的第一案"},{"start":3143.237,"end":3151.409,"text":"通案的第一案是要增列三千億啦這個是台灣民眾黨黨團是不是說明一下老了好不好 能夠說明好啦"},{"start":3153.144,"end":3177.677,"text":"說明一下好了啦好不好這個昨天有講過了啦財政部在11月公布今年10月稅收3兆223億的時候其實這幾年歷年來的稅收超增的部分大概都有平均1700億到1800億那其實財政部長他當時也表示今年會再增列"},{"start":3178.895,"end":3206,"text":"把這個113年度的稅收來去做一個相關的增列那財委會其實已經增列確定150億了150億了而且也要成立這個稅收估測專案小組所以明年的稅收跟時增數的這個預算數應該不會相差太遠那當時我們提這個案子後來來溝通是有同意說可以增列100億那當時現場的官員沒有異議但是後來好像回去之後有不同的意見"},{"start":3207.08,"end":3235.209,"text":"那我們在昨天財政部國會聯絡委員來本黨團溝通的時候表示這個一百億的甄列他們欠然同意所以希望說說策案或是保留那我們是覺得說這樣溝通的一個品質其實影響我們的互信原則所以我們還是希望就是說是不是可以甄列一百億那財政部要不要簡單說明一下如果沒有共識的話我們就保留好不好那其實這個最主要我們還是希望就是說"},{"start":3239.01,"end":3259.858,"text":"稅收超徵的部分 其實已經多年來這個數字其實基本當然3000億這個數字可以討論但是平均都1000多億 1700億這個是已經確定的數字但是應該優先用來還債 不應該都是還是透過發現金或是某種可能對外界來講是政策性的買票"},{"start":3261.059,"end":3286.341,"text":"優先還債的部分 包含勞保還有這些所謂的勞保的虧損的部分那台電的問題這個是另外的問題不應該都是把納稅人的錢去補這些台電的財務黑洞所以我們認為還是優先還債那你後面的這個償還計畫還有以勞保為主的這個部分應該要把它納入後續的不管是主決議或是你們整個預算提案的方向重點"},{"start":3287.222,"end":3287.583,"text":"請莊副長說明一下"},{"start":3295.676,"end":3306.925,"text":"主席以及各位委員大家好我想這一個提案也是督促我們第一個就是在預算籌編的時候對稅客收入能夠更為精準然後讓跟時增數會接近我想這個部分在113年估測我們的稅客收入的時候財政部已經成立了估測專案小組除了部本部以外還邀請相關機關以及專家學者來組成一個小組然後對每個稅務影響的因子都納進去考量一個稅務一個稅務的檢討"},{"start":3325.26,"end":3351.368,"text":"所以在113年的時候我們在籌編這個稅客收入的時候已經做了這樣的一個一個一個調整跟改進那這一今年呢願編的是兩兆兩千九百九十億比112年已經增加了一千零四十一億事實上就是有調增加我們的一個籌編的數然後在財委會的時候也增加了一百五十億所以在這個部分呢我們是建議是不是就是按照財委會當時決議按照我們原來送出的預算案的數"},{"start":3353.83,"end":3354.353,"text":"增加150億來做一個調整那另外"},{"start":3359.574,"end":3387.033,"text":"另外對於剛剛﹖不好意思﹖對於委員剛剛提到的就是這一百億的部分我們的同仁去溝通的時候也許表達的不夠明確跟完整所以有點誤會那我想這個部分也跟這邊邱委員這邊跟您說所以你們同意在針對一百億沒有沒有沒有說我們的同仁去可能您這邊有提到說一百億的時候我們的同仁可能在表達上沒有很完整講一下好不好還是說回來研議這樣子好"},{"start":3389.642,"end":3408.373,"text":"要保留嗎?好不好?不是啦 我是想建議就是說如果100億也不能 但是這幾年看起來都超徵超過千喔千億 所以到底你們的監測小組你有什麼信心覺得你今年你孤一一三年你是很精準我是覺得你的信用前兩年都破產了"},{"start":3409.437,"end":3434.712,"text":"所以在這裡才說你時增數如果往上調你還可以到時候不會在國會被大家指責說你的這個估算有誤所以第一個我是覺得這是第一問題第二就是說超增之後的用途到底是往補貼這個勞保的部分還是之前補貼台電的部分其實財政部都沒有自己的主張啊所以你現在到底是要用什麼方式來做最後超增之後的處理也是一個問題"},{"start":3436.221,"end":3452.163,"text":"市長我講一下好不好這幾個案子差不多類似的啦這個第三案第四案第五案第六案差不多類似的案子並在一起談啦"},{"start":3453.632,"end":3480.607,"text":"沒有啦,兩個都說一樣,這不是說電信包結就好了,我們有關的關係知道,大家想想看一下,可以不可以,還有一個案件我剛講前兩年估那麼不準,那現在你認為他的估測小組,你覺得他有什麼讓你有信心?我是想請教柯總長,你有什麼信心說他真的明年估得很準嗎?這才是關鍵你有一個人說保證百分之百準"},{"start":3481.627,"end":3496.718,"text":"他已經有一個小組了嘛所以說 估測專業小組嘛 他們會很專業去處理嘛而且明年已經增加一千三百億了 好不好這整個行喔 整個條件要整齊啦估測的部分 剛剛賴委員提問的部分"},{"start":3503.627,"end":3509.889,"text":"是 您剛剛當然賴委員有提到就是估測是不是已經精準但是我必須要跟委員報告我們已經在改進我們的估測方式在113年的時候跟往年都不一樣所以我們的目的就是每個稅目但是您說也能夠準到什麼程度其實因為估測到到時針完成有兩年的一個時間這兩年時間也會有一些變動的因素在裡面但是我們一定是盡力去做到估測能夠精準我想這個在113年已經呈現在我們的改進的方式上"},{"start":3533.154,"end":3539.536,"text":"委員提到如果有超出預算數的部分 這個錢是怎麼用 第一個我們是減少舉債比如說112年來說 原先在總預算裡面要舉借的1732億我們都沒有舉借 然後拿去還債 1110億在6月的時候就還掉了"},{"start":3554.139,"end":3582.591,"text":"（減少債息的付出（同時我們在11月又增加還債150億（所以我們第一個是減少舉借（第二個是我們增加還債（另外如果我們在整個到結束以後（也會累計到稅季剩餘（到稅季剩餘的時候（就作為以後年度的融資裁員（那另外對於勞保的撥補的部分（在稅出預算的部分（我記得在113年也有在做這個部分（那是稅出的編列部分（那在稅路的部分我們如果有"},{"start":3583.191,"end":3583.351,"text":"李慧琼議員"},{"start":3608.271,"end":3636.772,"text":"照你們現在的邏輯或法制性去保證可以撥補到勞保吧 對不對我想釐清這個那其他的部分就是在其他未來稅出未出的部分不是 他剛剛講的債是他的法定上面的一個方式對 他是納入稅計剩餘再撥補稅出的一種 對不對不是直接債的部分嘛OK 好了解好 那本案就保留"},{"start":3638.262,"end":3665.154,"text":"第一案保留請看第二案檢列半數第二案我來補充說明一下這一次的公務預算跟基金預算邊有關政策行銷費用超過21億那其實我長期追蹤這些政策行銷費用的去路幾乎啊"},{"start":3666.754,"end":3689.191,"text":"這民進黨很厲害啊用政府的錢洗人的腦多花包給我就不講嘛 三立啦民事嘛那每一年都統三百分之二十統三晚隔年又加了超過百分之二十又送來這典型的藐視立法院所以以前通常都三百分之二十"},{"start":3691.038,"end":3691.338,"text":"主委長講一下"},{"start":3716.74,"end":3744.445,"text":"主席主席長來這個案子我建議說我們在通商比例的時候再來討論有沒有通商比例在討論通商比例的時候不行啊 我要先確定啊你講這個沒有一定比例我們不要往下走啊不行啊這樣就威脅這樣根本不是威脅啊因為每一年都這樣子吧來 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就拜託晚上我們六點休息到六點半七點"},{"start":5056.374,"end":5085.486,"text":"6點"},{"start":5088.271,"end":5093.234,"text":"6點到7點6點到7點7點開會開到10點明天再去幾點?九點半好不好?九點半好不好?沒有沒有我還有回我還知道還有回"},{"start":5109.747,"end":5110.528,"text":"明天早上九點半"},{"start":5123.905,"end":5124.646,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":5148.152,"end":5148.792,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":6015.438,"end":6017.72,"text":"主席"},{"start":6034.397,"end":6038.259,"text":"主席總助可不可以刪掉我比較自私一點"},{"start":6066.104,"end":6068.465,"text":"修正後提供"},{"start":6096.53,"end":6098.032,"text":"行政院也刪掉那是誰邀集阿"},{"start":6112.152,"end":6138.932,"text":"我建議一下這邊是不是原提案要求財政部也就是行政院召集主計總署這一段文字是不是就就蓋成要求財政部來召集相關單位召開會議檢討那大概就是成立了有財政部來邀集那另外就是最後一行的專案報告是不是修正為稅收估測精進書面報告"},{"start":6141.958,"end":6164.166,"text":"部長您這個相關單位其他相關單位是哪些單位其他相關單位這個我們第一個會邀請政府機關包含國發會主計總署中央銀行那另外也會邀請相關的專家學者一起來成立一個監討會議跟估測小組所以是包含了有關的我們都會邀請"},{"start":6165.046,"end":6166.507,"text":"我們曾民宗總專還是建議是要專案報告"},{"start":6195.131,"end":6195.652,"text":"這不是書面?這不是書面?"},{"start":6216.308,"end":6217.088,"text":"第四案就這樣,請看第五案"},{"start":6249.306,"end":6249.546,"text":"第五案"},{"start":6274.773,"end":6276.815,"text":"我意思是說這個是國民黨團提出來的意見意見是可行的"},{"start":6303.191,"end":6327.057,"text":"你為什麼要改我們的文字呢那協商啊不啊協商可以啊我不同意啊我們黨的文字是專業的啊你說改書面我也答應你又給我改文字那你現在應該怎樣就照原來文字改書面就好啦不是啦不是啦差不多對於他的改文字裡面你你至少對啦"},{"start":6330.241,"end":6352.576,"text":"欸這個本人在財政部做常識資格做這麼久我怎麼不知道你又改文字好啦尊重委員啦尊重委員啦對啊尊重委員尊重總專的意見所以有關於第五案第五案的主席主要修改兩個字就是專案改為書面報告這個可以嗎可以嗎齁"},{"start":6356.442,"end":6359.004,"text":"行政單位一定要去執行,不執行就是堵職"},{"start":6383.116,"end":6392.944,"text":"好 謝謝委員那第七案就修正通過好 第八案請國防部說明請委員會啦 並經委員會就好了"},{"start":6396.32,"end":6417.707,"text":"我跟各位報告一下,這個建議就是委員會有決議,就並委員會的決議來做裁定以後第一預備軍的動用,已經設定兩個條件第一個假如說已經建案的,要持續不足的,那我們要經過行政院的同意,而且會跟立法院做核備"},{"start":6420.227,"end":6435.812,"text":"如果沒有建案,我們要用的話,一定要跟立法院外交管委員會做專案的報告而且完成的建案程序再做專案報告報告經過外交管委會同意以後,然後使得動之"},{"start":6437.212,"end":6449.839,"text":"這個在10月25號已經跟委員會裡面做的說明了,建議就按照委員會決議的來辦理這樣的話就完全合法,符合預算法的規定那跟這個組結有什麼衝突呢?"},{"start":6451.51,"end":6453.251,"text":"部長 您的建議我尊重你就把我們的組決議改成"},{"start":6480.188,"end":6494.236,"text":"委員會的類似的文句吧,這樣就可以了,好不好就改成跟委員會決議類似的文句就好了,好不好,一樣達成你的原來的目的嘛,謝謝"},{"start":6502.112,"end":6503.372,"text":"就修正通過"},{"start":6532.318,"end":6534.759,"text":"第九案文字稍微修正一下"},{"start":6546.038,"end":6570.763,"text":"倒數第二行那個以濟暴方式那五個字可能刪除一下因為我們的這個計畫它完成的時間是不定期的所以什麼時候完成我們就什麼時候上網公告那你要把它寫清楚喔你要說什麼時候完成這個把它改文字敘述出來喔那我們就講說以濟暴方式那個文字刪掉那你要一個時間嘛要一個時間你說它已經完成就上網了啦沒有把它寫進來喔"},{"start":6571.724,"end":6571.744,"text":"好"},{"start":6586.522,"end":6586.902,"text":"對不起吧"},{"start":6616.548,"end":6628.243,"text":"對所以行政院定制所以我知道行政院自己有沒有一個時間因為4月要成立那個研議小組所以希望不要拖到明年什麼五一再公告這是不太對的一個立法的這個目的"},{"start":6629.742,"end":6656.637,"text":"我們會在總統府公告這個法案以後競訴有沒有可能在年底主席你不要幫他講那麼多因為就是現在勞工在傳就是說我們立院很快的通過了可是到底實施日期是什麼所以我希望行政院競訴也確定看看好不好讓大家不要覺得我們立法上面"},{"start":6656.937,"end":6658.778,"text":"第9案文字修正通過第10案照案通過"},{"start":6682.076,"end":6695.482,"text":"請看11案11案有一個修正建議請大家參考11案請大家看這張有沒有 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原民會都利用各種活動在助選網站上或是電視上或是有一些照片 真的很明顯所以我們這個案子也是督促原民會 做 可以做 不要太誇張那是不是你們文字修正是不是你收掉這個都沒有那個了"},{"start":7053.393,"end":7074.238,"text":"一年一手行政中立就對了啊後面那個有不同意見的人看法,有時候有這種事情反正重新修正一下要行政中立就建議文字修正你文字是不是再重寫一下修正文字再重寫一下,等一下先保留怎麼重寫完"},{"start":7078.444,"end":7081.805,"text":"主協議文字你們再寫一下再拿過來大家再看現在就暫時保留就看文字以後再講請看22案"},{"start":7104.462,"end":7104.924,"text":"請看21案21案"},{"start":7110.872,"end":7138.469,"text":"21案有跟陳佳華委員溝通原則上修改一小段文字後面陳佳華委員堅持的那一段我們就保留就留著這樣子前面一段拿掉後面那段留著就是避免政府機關這個部分還是不用刪掉嘛對 前面歌功頌德宣揚政績那個刪掉這樣子好 那個我們可以贊成但是後面避免政府"},{"start":7139.189,"end":7139.729,"text":"保留保留我意見"},{"start":7157.879,"end":7160.961,"text":"我們是希望避免讓民眾誤會﹑或者是認為執政單位﹑執政黨"},{"start":7187.674,"end":7188.074,"text":"那現在修正通過"},{"start":7215.979,"end":7243.597,"text":"就是復原律師長對不對就是我想我們在各個部會的臉書不會出現政黨的名字不會幫政黨宣傳但是部會的臉書去幫行政院的政績宣傳應該是可以那這個文字沒有什麼錯阿不會有特定政黨的問題所以這個文字沒什麼錯嘛這文字保留這個文字保留"},{"start":7245.495,"end":7246.155,"text":"好,那這樣"},{"start":7271.38,"end":7283.226,"text":"二十一案就文字修正通過二十一案的主決議請看二十二案二十二案就是只有改一個字改一個字應改成以啦我不贊成阿為什麼你知道我後來當了總召"},{"start":7301.482,"end":7327.524,"text":"你現在就當總召 怎麼後來要當總召我做八年立委沒有每一年都做我做了三年總召每一次到司法法制去一下子法務部有一件一下司法院有一件朝委協商完 司法院有一件法務部有一件浪費國家的資源兩個會選 一個法務部 一個行政院送來法案 長長"},{"start":7329.773,"end":7337.762,"text":"法務部跟司法院沒有意見 常常還麻煩你這個大總召來協商沒有關係啦 可一點沒有關係不用不用不用"},{"start":7341.543,"end":7361.222,"text":"因為坦白講,很多法案,司法院、法務部本來就有不同立場,包括我們提議的最近刑法185之3,所以就很有經驗法務部的堅持後來跟司法院協商溝通以後,還是用司法院的文職,所以南北會有這種情形"},{"start":7362.557,"end":7380.205,"text":"等一下喔 司法院有沒有意見那個司法院沒來 那個我們必須因為我們行政單位行政單位沒有辦法一定要聽行政院的啦因為五院是平行的 我們沒辦法 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他們也知道"},{"start":16315.717,"end":16326.351,"text":"所以我覺得這個應該照本席的提案通過了然後我也說了如果入委會宣布明年就開放那個入客到金門來旅遊我這個案子馬上撤掉"},{"start":16327.843,"end":16329.324,"text":"說明一下好不好大家都想知道啦"},{"start":16357.383,"end":16358.624,"text":"主題啊 為什麼增加兩千萬 告訴我一下"},{"start":16381.502,"end":16393.112,"text":"主席 您的提案我的提案 人事局行政費暴漲兩千萬公共臺灣要求臺灣人參加這個提案就是 海基會福利不夠嘛陳議員再做報告沒有啦 那個主委來你先不要講啦你先不要講是不是陳議員陳委員 其實喔"},{"start":16400.018,"end":16418.284,"text":"這個案子也發生出來了你寫了也不清楚啦你那一百空氣站你那減四千五百萬那個喔那是增加的喔不是歷來的今年增加四千五百萬我就跟你說你現在講的跟你的提案講的就是兩件事因為你們不看內部嘛完全就不相干嘛因為你們都沒有看內部的預算我們是仔細看預算啊你仔細看預算你要把你三點理由寫進去"},{"start":16422.145,"end":16427.469,"text":"你的暗友你是講說什麼中共臺辦要求臺商不得參加我說的是他們到金門這件事情沒有辦得很好當然嘛我意思是說 你就笑成這樣你就說什麼中共臺辦要求臺商不得參加海基會考察活動"},{"start":16439.838,"end":16442.239,"text":"你當然這樣寫會引發誤會嘛你們不查清楚就給他弄媒體不對不對沒有人這樣扣你紅帽是講說你為什麼不去譴責老公你看扣你紅帽扣得讓你這樣笑嘻嘻你多開心啊你把紅帽子往頭上戴啊"},{"start":16465.589,"end":16482.612,"text":"我先請問一下為什麼要增加人事 增加兩千萬啊陳委員 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謝謝"},{"start":4378.45,"end":4406.807,"text":"接下來請柯建民委員主席各位委員同仁我剛才在台下仔細聽各黨發言發現大家我非常驚訝大家不知道在說什麼完全你要演員會的目的"},{"start":4407.861,"end":4422.947,"text":"和能夠做到的事情根本沒有關聯性第一個有關於永安庭會的事情立法院在這30年來每次要選以前一定有庭會提前休會"},{"start":4426.38,"end":4454.426,"text":"那為什麼呢?因為大家都知道大家要回去選舉了所以過去大概有三個禮拜也有15天也有兩個禮拜這次是提前11天而已這個在一個多月以前已經超越學章那時候國民黨他們站在同一個立場上來看待這個事情只有民眾黨和時代議員反對那今天我在聽他們的反對理由事實上非常荒謬他說要嚴審法案"},{"start":4456.462,"end":4485.684,"text":"法案昨天還在審,原住民生活法,那個可能會過未來所有的法案沒有一個會過,要經過朝夕期間沒有一個會過所謂總預算,我們當然希望總預算趕快處理在期間休會以前,在下禮拜二最後一天的時候,我們早就安排好總預算要如何,昨天已經開始協商但很遺憾昨天國務黨有一些不愉快,待會我們再來協商這是第一點"},{"start":4486.67,"end":4515.041,"text":"那剛才民眾黨當然邱正元委員在講說什麼要營業籍費營業基金這種不肯營業的費營業基金到目前很多還沒審完哪有可能審完還要經過一個月所以大家都講得非常清楚那所謂法案也是一樣嘛所以我該公布的法案哪一個我們都全部安排好了請看我們到所有的法案都是我們非常有志氣在排包括今天成績委會我們要在排"},{"start":4515.765,"end":4537.547,"text":"那現在比較重大的法案就是防護稅防護稅條例至於守護稅扣除了要不要處理呢?因為還沒到一個月,這個部分你也可以討論其他我不知道什麼接避者,接避者現在委員都還沒審我想講話要講真的委員都還沒審,你成為一個立法委員,委員都還沒審,說什麼到議題可以處理這些法案"},{"start":4539.505,"end":4556.715,"text":"然後Saidhai‧Tahovecahe要指責說看誰誰要提前修繪老是用這種方式原不由用這種方式要用作秀抹黑來處理逆反的事情本席非常反對大家講要講真實的尤其今天我在這裡談的就是說"},{"start":4558.359,"end":4575.627,"text":"你們實際上和民眾黨所提的哪一點我們沒有做到呢你們要求的根本不可能的事情尤其現在大家都很清楚所有委員會都要來考察你就算開會到31號也是都要來考察然後詳盡題目考察"},{"start":4606.81,"end":4613.297,"text":"報告委員會現有時代力量黨團、台灣民眾黨團分別提出修正動議的提案請議事人員一併宣讀提案內容"},{"start":4614.833,"end":4640.4,"text":"時代力量黨團修正動議本院時代力量黨團有鑒於諸多蔡英文政府已承諾之重大法案尚未完成立法及修法工作如接避者保護法、不法關說與不法饋贈罪、棄保檢討罪、集會遊行法等進行本會期一開會至憲法規定之會期2023年12月31日結束為止是否有當進行公決"},{"start":4642.02,"end":4658.297,"text":"台灣民眾黨黨團修正動議本院台灣民眾黨黨團鑒於憲法第68條規定立法院會期每年兩次自行集會第一次自2月至5月底第二次自9月至12月底必要時得延長之"},{"start":4659.217,"end":4681.185,"text":"進行本第8會期將進行至112年12月31日至本會期應將113年中央政府總預算案及逢稅條例修正草案、最低工資法草案、公投不在籍投票草案、階幣者保護法草案等重點法案三讀通過事後有當進行公決宣讀完畢議題案"},{"start":4687.25,"end":4694.585,"text":"我們以提案先後順序來進行處理先處理時代力量黨團修正動議提案請議事人員按鈴7分鐘並分發表決卡請按鈴"},{"start":5131.24,"end":5147.531,"text":"好 按鈴時間已經到請問各位同仁有沒有尚未拿到表決卡好 都有表決卡現在針對時代力量黨團修正之提議進行表決民進黨團、時代力量黨團要求記名表決時間一分鐘 現在開始"},{"start":5157.244,"end":5185.195,"text":"本院司法及法制委員會報告併案審查行政院、事項：本院司法及法制委員會報告併案審查行政院、事項：本院司法及法制委員會報告"},{"start":5187.688,"end":5215.666,"text":"本院司法及法制委員會報告併案審查行政委員會報告併案審查行政委員會報告併案審查行政委員會報告"},{"start":5221.857,"end":5239.875,"text":"表決結果出席68人、贊成6人、反對50人、棄權12人、贊成者少數時代力量黨團修正提案提議不通過現在針對台灣民眾黨黨團修正之提議進行表決民進黨團、時代力量黨團要求記名表決時間1分鐘現在開始"},{"start":5244.821,"end":5264.293,"text":"本院司法及法制委員會報告併案審查行政委員會報告併案審查行政委員會報告併案審查行政委員會報告"},{"start":5282.91,"end":5285.796,"text":"等21人、委員邰智英等21人、委員邰智英等21人、委員邰智英等21人、委員邰智英等"},{"start":5313.581,"end":5340.615,"text":"了結結果出席68人、贊成6人、反對50人、棄權12人、贊成者少數台灣民眾黨黨團修正之提議不通過群議會對本案及民黨團所提之內容有異議沒有異議本案就照案通過做如下決議本院自112年12月20日星期三至12月31日星期日停開院會及委員會"},{"start":5342.357,"end":5359.298,"text":"112年12月18日星期一加開院會與12月15日星期五及12月19日星期二視為同一次會議繼續進行討論事項第七案最低工資法草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":5360.782,"end":5377.612,"text":"本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會分別於111年5月19日、112年10月18日舉行全體委員會議審查本案分別由林兆潔委員為州、邱兆潔委員探員擔任主席邀請提案委員說明提案要旨"},{"start":5378.893,"end":5401.312,"text":"並請勞動部部長徐明春及相關人員列席說明並備諮詢原會員於聽徐說明期詢答後進行逐條討論,完成本案審查原清決議並按領據審查報告提報院會討論本案與院會進行二讀前須交由黨團協商院會討論本案時,由邱肇景、袁泰源補充說明宣讀完畢"},{"start":5405.167,"end":5411.499,"text":"請召集委員、邱委員、泰委員補充說明邱委員沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議需叫黨團協商"},{"start":5412.816,"end":5435.212,"text":"另外委員蘇志斌等、委員莊敬成等、委員李昆哲等分別提案經第8會期第6次、第7次會議決定經複二讀與相關提案併案協商委員賴瑞榮等、委員劉建國等、委員王美惠等分別提案經第8會期第7次會議決議自委員會抽出經複二讀與相關提案併案協商本案現已完成協商請宣讀協商結論"},{"start":5438.12,"end":5447.579,"text":"立法院黨團協商結論實踐112年12月7日星期四下午30地點紅樓302會議室協商主題最低工資法草案"},{"start":5448.628,"end":5474.18,"text":"寫章結論一、寫章通過條文第13條如附件二、照行政院提案通過第1條、第3條、第4條、第5條、第10條、第16條及第17條三、不予採納、委員吳玉琴等18人提案第11條四、保留送院會處理一、第7條、第9條、第12條二、委員江永昌等17人提案第20條、委員徐志榮等25人、委員林維周等16人提案第15條"},{"start":5475.16,"end":5500.639,"text":"委員范雲等17人、時代力量黨團提案第16條委員蔣萬安等18人、委員廖國棟等16人提案第17條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第14條五、區域經照審查會審查結果通過六、條次及援引條次授權議事人員調整七、檢護本案立法說明一份八、台灣民眾黨黨團附帶決議一項保留送院會處理"},{"start":5502.813,"end":5519.276,"text":"本案院會進行處理時,寫上通過部分,宣讀後均予以通過保留部分軍戰保留保留部分院會進行處理前,由各黨團推派一人依時代力量黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團、國民黨黨團、民進黨黨團順序輪流發言每人發言時間3分鐘,發言完畢後,各該保留部分均不再發言"},{"start":5527.018,"end":5552.634,"text":"並依上開黨團順序進行各項各保留條文黨團版本之處理協商主持人 游錫坤、蔡吉昌協商代表 柯建銘、劉世芳、莊瑞雄、吳育群、曾明中、謝一鳳、李德維、賴香林、邱承遠、張其路、邱顯智、陳家華、黃婉玉宣讀完畢請願會對以上協商結論有依沒有依本案主條討論時進一協商結論處理"},{"start":5556.011,"end":5567.371,"text":"黃定宇委員聲明對剛才的表決與民進黨黨團意見一致列入公報紀錄最低公知法草案請宣讀名稱最低公知法宣讀完畢照審查會名稱通過第一條"},{"start":5568.427,"end":5588.664,"text":"第一條為確保勞工合理之最低工資提高勞工及其家庭之生活水準促進勞資和諧特制令本法最低工資事項依本法之規定本法為規定者適用勞動基準法及其他相關法律之規定宣讀完畢照行政院提案條文通過第二條"},{"start":5589.758,"end":5614.477,"text":"第二條 本法制主管機關在中央為勞動部、在職鄉市為職鄉市政府、在縣市為縣市政府宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第三條第三條 本法制適用對象為適用勞動基準法之勞工本法所生勞工、雇主、工資及事業單位之定義依勞動基準法第二條規定宣讀完畢照行政院提案條文通過第四條"},{"start":5616.468,"end":5641.393,"text":"第4條最低工資分為每月最低工資及每小時最低工資宣讀完畢照行政院提案條文通過第5條第5條勞工與僱儲雙方議定之工資不得低於最低工資其議定之工資低於最低工資者以本法所定之最低工資為其工資數額宣讀完畢照行政院提案條文通過第6條"},{"start":5642.984,"end":5654.743,"text":"第6條 中央主管金關應設最低工資審議會以下簡稱審議會審議最低工資宣傳完畢照審查會條文通過第7條保留第8條"},{"start":5657.884,"end":5685.166,"text":"第八條 審議會委員任期為二年 期滿得續聘前條第一項第一款是第四款 所定委員辭職或出缺者由原推薦機關或團體重新推薦經中央主管機關聘聘 任期至原任期屆滿之日為止前條第一項第五款 所定委員辭職或出缺者由中央主管機關另行聘聘 任期至原任期屆滿之日為止"},{"start":5686.647,"end":5694.372,"text":"審議會委員軍委吳啟之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第9條保留委員吳玉琴等提案第11條不予採納第10條"},{"start":5696.96,"end":5724.151,"text":"第10條審議會應與每年第三季召開會議但依第13條第二項規定召開者不在此限最低工資之審議應有委員二分之一以上出席使得開會審議未能達成共識者得經出席委員過半數同意亦決之審議會委員應親自出席不得委任他人代理宣讀完畢再好請這件提案條文通過第11條"},{"start":5727.765,"end":5743.894,"text":"第11條 中央主管機關應於審議會會議結束後30日內於該機關網站公開會議資料及記錄宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第12條保留委員范雲等提案第10條不予採納第13條"},{"start":5745.799,"end":5770.992,"text":"第13條 中央主管機關應於最低工資審議通過之次日期之日內報請行政院核定後公告實施行政院不予核定者中央主管機關應於收到不予核定函之日期30日內在召開審議會進行審議並將審議結果依前項規定報請行政院予以核定宣讀完畢照寫上條文通過第14條"},{"start":5772.301,"end":5786.386,"text":"第14條經行政院核定之最低工資除審議會任由另定實施日期必要並經行政院衡定準位自次年1月1日實施宣傳完畢照審查會條文通過第15條"},{"start":5787.813,"end":5811.119,"text":"第15條 中央處管機關議第13條第一項規定公告實施最低工資前 原依勞動基準法公告之基本工資繼續有效本法實行後第一次公告之最低工資數額不得低於本法實行前最後一次依勞動基準法公告之基本工資數額宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第16條"},{"start":5812.284,"end":5820.946,"text":"第16條最低工資之監督及檢查使用勞動基準法監督與檢查及其他相關事項之規定宣討完畢"},{"start":5821.906,"end":5843.764,"text":"照行政院提案條文通過,委員江永昌等提案第17條、實在力量黨團提案第13條、委員蔣萬安等、委員廖國棟等實在力量黨團分別提案第14條、委員江永昌等提案第18條、委員蔣萬安等、委員廖國棟等分別提案第15條、委員江永昌等、實在力量黨團分別提案第15條、委員蔣萬安等、委員廖國棟等分別提案第16條均不予採納"},{"start":5844.805,"end":5856.972,"text":"委員江永昌等提案第20條、委員徐志榮等委員林惟洲等分別提案第15條、委員范雲等質量黨團分別提案第16條、委員蔣萬安等委員廖國棟等分別提案第17條、台灣民眾黨黨團提案第14條保留第17條"},{"start":5862.711,"end":5882.612,"text":"第17條 勞工與雇主雙方議定之工資低於最低工資者由直轄市縣市主管機關主、雇主或事業單位新台幣2萬元以上、100萬元下罰還並得依事業單位規模違反人數或違反情節加重其罰還制法定罰還最高額二分之一"},{"start":5883.572,"end":5911.883,"text":"經依前項規定處以發還者﹐指消失限事主管機關﹐因公佈該事業單位或事業組織名稱﹐負責人姓名﹐處分日期及發還金額﹐並限期令其改善﹐其其未改善者應按次處罰﹐指消失限事主管機關才處罰還﹐得審酌與違反行為有關事勞工人數﹐累計違法次數或為依法給付之金額﹐為良罰輕重之基準"},{"start":5912.503,"end":5932.751,"text":"宣讀完畢照行政院提案條文通過第18條第18條本法實行後其他法規關於基本公資制規定適用本法最低公資制規定宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過委員姜文昌等提案第23條、委員蔣萬安等提案第21條、時代力量黨團提案第20條、台灣民眾黨黨團提案第16條均不予採納第19條"},{"start":5936.738,"end":5955.814,"text":"第19條本法實行日期由行政院定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過保安委員會現在繼續處理保留部分依協商結論保留部分處理前由各黨團推派一人發言現在進行各黨團推派之代表發言首先請王婉玉委員發言"},{"start":5968.086,"end":5994.187,"text":"最低工資法是時代力量長期以來的核心主張不論是在第9屆又或者是第10屆的國會時代力量都是第一個領先提出最低工資法草案的政黨這是審查保留的第7條時代力量的訴求非常的清楚也非常的簡單就是希望最低工資的審議會要能夠專業化所以我們主張勞資學三方的人數應該是要1比1比1"},{"start":5994.827,"end":6022.517,"text":"而且政府部門的參加不論是政府代表是出席還是列席都不應該成為勞動部拿來壓縮學者專家人數的藉口在審查的時候勞動部不斷地拿日本和韓國的制度來舉例說日本和韓國的三方機制是勞資和公正方公正方包含了政府官員的代表三方的人數是相等的結果在時代力量黨團的查證之下找出了日韓的委員名單以及會議記錄發現勞動部根本"},{"start":6024.138,"end":6043.987,"text":"根本就是鬼扯一通,蓄意提供錯誤的資訊來誤導委員的判斷日本和韓國的審議會勞資學三方的人數都是1比1比1公正報明明只有專家學者根本沒有政府代表也是專家學者這件事對此我們也要嚴厲的譴責勞動部公然說謊欺瞞國會"},{"start":6047.449,"end":6064.535,"text":"另外聯合國部也承認了他們的審查會的機制是參考日韓的話而這部分就應該要比照日本和韓國將專家學者的人數提高到勞方和資方一樣是7比7比7也就是時代力量的主張這才是真正的言行一致同時時代力量黨團也認為"},{"start":6065.735,"end":6092.379,"text":"最低工資每年調整的幅度應該要不低於消費者物價指數的年增率為什麼最低工資應該要每年調整除了讓勞工分享經濟的果實之外最重要的當然是希望能夠保障邊緣勞工他們的薪水的實質購買力不會因為物價上漲物價高漲的關係讓錢變得越來越薄變相的反而讓薪水是倒退縮的讓他們的生活越來越辛苦"},{"start":6092.839,"end":6116.445,"text":"所以我們認為應該要讓最低工資法的條幅和消費者物價指數清楚的結合和掛鉤至少至少要維持弱勢勞工的購買能力這是政府應該最做到的最基本的工作最基本的保障也是勞工朋友最卑微的請求而不是像現在行政院的版本大玩文字遊戲不論是贏參彩又或者是得參彩"},{"start":6117.125,"end":6141.98,"text":"都只是參考用完全沒有實質的強制性也沒有拘束力從保障勞工的角度出發立法院本來就可以做得更多也應該要做得更多所以要請大家來支持時代力量黨團的版本讓我們勞資學三方是1比1比1的比例同時讓最低工資的條幅應該要超過GPI的調整指數讓我們大家真正能夠一起來捍衛弱勢勞工的權利捍衛邊緣勞工的權利讓大家"},{"start":6144.542,"end":6150.089,"text":"不再那麼辛苦也應該所有的黨團都應該要苦民所苦具體來保障具體來承諾謝謝大家接下來請賴香林委員"},{"start":6169.707,"end":6188.707,"text":"主席、各位委員我想我們要面對的是一個被遺忘了7年的最低工資法要不是賴副總統一聲令下民進黨的黨團或者是勞動部也不會把版本在10天之內送到立院歷經短暫的協商我想我們最低工資法的立法"},{"start":6189.367,"end":6212.06,"text":"雖然有非常多內容上面的不足但是我們還是期待能夠在這個會期可以通過一個延宕7年的立法我想勞動部在2019年是有送了版本到行政院當時的蘇院長跟許部長多次用要收集民間的意見其實是企業的意見來作為推託到現在送進來之後我們看到有幾個部分還是相當的不足"},{"start":6212.56,"end":6236.421,"text":"但我想我們還要先面對今年在9月8號基本工資審議小組裡面對於審議的這個薪資由26400元調漲到27470元勢有為福的上漲那民進黨政府也長期說這幾年來調升了非常多次但是我們要講蔡英文總統自己說要含出3萬元的基本工資請問這個金額實現了嗎還是跳票了"},{"start":6239.764,"end":6264.486,"text":"所以一個喊價式的或者是用動員式的方式來做選舉的開價的這個方式的基本工資是不應該淪為政治上的一個籌碼因此我們強調在未來在修正的這個版本裡面民眾黨的版本很清楚有提出三個方向首先我們還是正視一個基本工資代表的是邊緣弱勢勞工以及相關的這個打工時薪等等的一個基本規格"},{"start":6265.086,"end":6290.415,"text":"他當然是法尊的最基本也是保障最低生活品質的一個象徵所以他必須要有專業的委員來進行審議因此在所謂的審議委員的代表席次裡面我們認為政府部門的代表要降低維持中立性極好那勞方代表、資方代表跟公益代表要佔777席來作為一個比較合理的配比那第二個我們希望整個"},{"start":6291.315,"end":6311.612,"text":"最低工資的條幅能夠不低於重要民生物資的消費物價指數年增率也不可以低於前一年的基本工資這個當然是能夠與時俱進反映通膨以及反映薪資被通膨吃掉的狀況第三個我們期待一個可長可久的制度要讓審議委員不能被架空"},{"start":6312.052,"end":6329.069,"text":"因此在所謂的條幅以及相關的公式裡面其實是可以透過研究小組制定提出相關的公式配比那不是像現在執政黨說有了公式之後未來如果遇到特殊情況反而無法有彈性處理這是一個推諉之詞"},{"start":6329.83,"end":6354.108,"text":"我們應該讓國人相信制度而不是相信個人因此在這次的修法裡面民眾黨的版本包括第7條第9條第12條及第14條有關採購法的部分也一樣期待一個基本法尊都不生存的企業他當然不能參與國家的重要的一些這個投標的這個資格這個是法律上明定也是公益社會應該要期待的這個修法希望大家一起"},{"start":6360.066,"end":6360.486,"text":"很遺憾這一次的這個"},{"start":6384.844,"end":6403.534,"text":"最低工資法雖然今天已經到我們院會要進行刪讀但是這個已經延宕了7年多那我在去年5月份的時候也在未還委員會擔任召委的時候提出排案"},{"start":6405.145,"end":6428.444,"text":"當時也是受到執政黨阻擋理由是行政院版本還在收集資料還沒完成所以不予審議那今天終於因為選舉所以我們看到能夠來這邊刪讀了所以我還是要感慨地說一聲選舉萬歲如果沒有這個選舉"},{"start":6432.304,"end":6456.898,"text":"最低工資法不會在今天刪讀你們都已經執政7年多了但是這個刪讀的版本我們看到行政院的版本還是覺得很遺憾前面幾位黨團在野黨團的發言我們都予以肯定國民黨黨團的版本堅持三個原則第一個原則就是審議委員會的委員"},{"start":6459.954,"end":6466.327,"text":"勞方代表一定要超過資方代表那我們看到行政院的版本"},{"start":6467.581,"end":6495.894,"text":"勞方代表跟資方代表同樣的名額但是如果再加上政府的代表那勞方代表在這個審議委員會裡面還是弱勢所以我們的版本勞方代表一定要大於資方代表但是也不至於會失衡因為還有專家學者這是我們強調的第一點勞方代表大於資方代表有非常具有指標性的意義"},{"start":6497.691,"end":6525.417,"text":"第二點每年調整最低工資行政院版本只是講到要參採CPI消費指數參採什麼意思參考採納也可以不採納那國民黨版本堅持一定要高於CPI的指數調整的幅度這樣才有實質的意義"},{"start":6527.25,"end":6540.067,"text":"第三點違反最低工資法的資方要受到懲罰除了罰款之外還包括在一段的時間內不得參與國家的標案"},{"start":6546.477,"end":6552.42,"text":"這樣的處罰是合情合理竟然執政黨也不同意你要讓這樣違反最低勞資法摳克勞工的這種企業繼續參與國家的採購我們不懂為什麼要反對"},{"start":6576.028,"end":6576.796,"text":"接下來請吳育秦委員"},{"start":6588.051,"end":6606.322,"text":"謝謝副院長11月18號我們未還委員會就審查這個我們這一公知法那也經過兩次的政黨協商剩下4條的一個政黨有不同的意見那就針對不同意見來跟大家表述一下民進黨的一個看法行政院的第7條有關審議會的人數"},{"start":6608.563,"end":6626.354,"text":"主要世界各國對於最低工資的審議委員的成員大概都由勞方、資方跟第三方組成人數多為相同所謂的第三方代表通常是學者專家或政府代表所以目前我們也是延用了繼續延用目前最低基本工資的審議成員的一個組成"},{"start":6628.795,"end":6656.487,"text":"所以希望是在這個學者專家的人數不宜再增加因為連同政府的代表第三方的人數將會超過勞資委員這會將對未來的社會對話功能會模糊化這也是牢固團體認同的一個做法所以請支持民進黨的一個修正動議那第二個是第9條的部分最低工資的審議裡面這個是一個核心的條文因為消費者物價指數的年增率"},{"start":6656.907,"end":6678.195,"text":"是維持勞工必須購買力的一個重要指標所以這個指標我們也絕對認為要考慮所以列為應參採的指標至於得參採的指標應該是以勞僱團體們共具有共識較無爭議的一個為主所以目前有10款那在這個其他政黨裡面提到的是說要訂定調補的樓地板"},{"start":6679.736,"end":6697.075,"text":"若是只針對特定指標來作為處理無法斟酌其他指標及整體社會經濟情勢欠缺彈性所以我們建議是不予增列這個部分所以請支持我們民進黨的一個修正動議那定位第12條的部分"},{"start":6697.515,"end":6712.068,"text":"有關研究小組是這次條文裡面特別有別於基本工資審議的一個機制那研究小組只是一個研究組織它所做成的研究報告跟調整建議主要是提供給最低工資審議會來審查參考之用"},{"start":6714.991,"end":6717.292,"text":"等19人、委員彭麗文等19人、委員彭麗文等19人、委員彭麗文等19人、委員彭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整建議宣讀完畢"},{"start":7884.816,"end":7890.198,"text":"現在表決時代力量黨團修正統一條文民黨團時代力量黨團要求記名表決時間1分鐘現在開始"},{"start":7921.015,"end":7924.868,"text":"等20人、委員林鄭月娥等20人、委員林鄭月娥等20人、委員林鄭月娥等20人"},{"start":7962.113,"end":7965.994,"text":"表決結果出席71人、贊成3人、反對51人、棄權17人、贊成者少數修正動議條文不通過現在表決台灣民眾黨黨團修正動議條文民進黨團要求記名表決時間1分鐘現在開始"},{"start":7990.813,"end":7991.198,"text":"等20人、委員張廖萬佳"},{"start":8046.755,"end":8066.099,"text":"表決結果出席71人、贊成6人、反對51人、棄權14人、贊成則少數修正動議條文不通過請院會依照民進黨黨團修正動議條文通過有異議、沒有異議、有異議我們進行表決現在表決民進黨黨團修正動議條文民進黨團要求記名表決時間1分鐘現在開始"},{"start":8074.667,"end":8096.017,"text":"等20人、委員吳嘉瑜等20人、委員周子維等20人、委員彭麗玲等20人、委員彭麗玲等20人、委員彭麗玲等20人、委員彭麗玲等20人、委員彭麗玲等20人、委員"},{"start":8140.543,"end":8145.126,"text":"了解結果出席71人、贊成51人、反對14人、棄權6人、贊成者多數第12條照民黨黨團修正動議條文通過現在進行協商結論保留條文二委員及黨團提案條文請宣讀各黨團版本"},{"start":8160.769,"end":8187.5,"text":"時代力量黨團修正動議第16條台灣民眾黨黨團修正動議第14條內容一致各級機關辦理採購發現廠商有違反本法規定者應將其事實及理由通知廠商並命於一定期間內不得參加政府採購法所稱投標或作為絕標對象或分包廠商其項情形準用政府採購法第102條及第103條之規定"},{"start":8192.199,"end":8216.892,"text":"國民黨黨團修正動議第16條最低工資之監督及檢查是用勞動基準法監督與檢查及其他相關事項之規定各級機關辦理採購發現廠商有違反本法規定者應將其事實及理由通知廠商並令其於一定期間內不得參加政府採購法所爭投標或作為決標對象或分報廠商"},{"start":8217.613,"end":8220.58,"text":"前項情形準用政府採購法第102條及第103條之規定民進黨黨團修正動議不予採納宣讀完畢"},{"start":8230.561,"end":8235.644,"text":"時代力量黨團修正動議條文第16條和民眾黨黨團修正動議條文第14條條文內容相同所以我們一併處理現在表決時代力量黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團分別所提修正動議條文民進黨團、時代力量黨團要求記名表決時間1分鐘現在開始"},{"start":8322.317,"end":8323.897,"text":"表決結果出席71人、贊成6人、反對51人、棄權14人"},{"start":8328.986,"end":8333.949,"text":"贊成則少數實在力量黨團修正動議16條民眾黨黨團修正動議14條條文不通過現在表決國民黨黨團修正動議條文民進黨團要求記名表決時間1分鐘現在開始"},{"start":8411.109,"end":8418.115,"text":"表決結果出席71人、贊成17人、反對51人、棄權3人、贊成則少數國民黨黨團修正動議條文不通過報告議員會協商結論保留條文二不予採納請讓經過二讀現有民進黨黨團實在力量黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問議員會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀之條文最低工資法"},{"start":8436.67,"end":8463.113,"text":"第一條 為確保勞工合理之最低工資提高勞工及其家庭之生活學準促進勞資和協特制定本法最低工資事項依本法之規定本法未規定者使用勞動基準法及其他相關法律之規定第二條 本法之主管機關在中央為勞動部在主轄市為主轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府"},{"start":8465.944,"end":8476.975,"text":"本法之適用對象為適用勞動基準法之勞工本法所申勞工、雇主、工資及事業單位之定義依勞動基準法第二條規定"},{"start":8478.516,"end":8501.07,"text":"第4條最低工資分為每月最低工資及每小時最低工資第5條勞工與雇主雙方一定之工資不得低於最低工資其一定之工資低於最低工資者以本法所定之最低工資為其工資數額第6條中央主管機關應設最低工資審議會以下簡宣審議會審議最低工資"},{"start":8506.687,"end":8534.135,"text":"第7條 審議會至委員21人由勞動部部長擔任召集人並為當然委員其餘委員之組成如下一、經濟部代表1人二、國家發展委會代表1人三、勞方代表7人四、資方代表7人五、學者專家4人前項勞方代表及資方代表分別由全國性勞工及工商之相關團體推介後由中央主管機關領聘之"},{"start":8535.055,"end":8562.262,"text":"第一項第五款學者專家由中央主管機關領聘之審議會委員任意性別比例不得少於三分之一第八條審議會委員任期為二年期滿得續聘前條第一項第一款至第四款所定委員辭職或出缺者由原推薦機關或團體重新推薦經中央主管機關領聘任期至原任期屆滿職者為止"},{"start":8564.643,"end":8574.051,"text":"請條第1項第5塊所定委員辭職或出缺者由中央主管機關另行另聘任期至原任期屆滿之日為至選議會委員均為吾己職"},{"start":8579.741,"end":8599.722,"text":"第9條最低工資稅審議應參選消費者物價指數年增率擬定調整幅度結效審議並得參選項列資料一、勞動生產力指數年增率二、勞工平均薪資年增率三、國家經濟發展存款四、國民所得及平均美元所得"},{"start":8600.942,"end":8608.264,"text":"5、國內生產毛文及成本構成之分配比率6、零生物價及生產成物價變動狀況7、個業產業發展情形及就業狀況8、個業勞工工資9、家庭收支狀況10、最低生活費"},{"start":8618.345,"end":8640.485,"text":"第10條 審議會亦於每年第三季召開會議但依第13條第2項規定召開則不在此限最低工資之審議應有委員二分之一以上出席時的開會審議未能達成共識者得經出席委員過半數同意亦決之審議會委員應親自出席不得委任他人代理"},{"start":8642.25,"end":8671.369,"text":"第11條 中央主管機關應於審議會會議結束後30日內與該機關網站分開會議資料及記錄第12條 中央主管機關應組成研究小組研究最低工資審議事宜前項研究小組織組成應包括下列人員一、學者專家6人其中4人由第7條第1項第5款所定學者專家擔任其餘由中央主管機關領聘之"},{"start":8672.51,"end":8688.123,"text":"中央主管機關國家發展委員會、經濟部財政部及行政院主席總處各指派1人第一項研究小組因於每年4月向審議會提出最低工資實施對經濟及就業狀況之影響報告並於審議會召開會議30日前就第9條鎖定審議參採資料提出研究報告及調整建議"},{"start":8698.956,"end":8717.68,"text":"第13條 中央主管機關應與最低工資審議通過之次日起10日內報請行政院核定後公告實施行政院不予核定者中央主管機關應與收到不予核定函之日起30日內再召開審議會進行審議並將審議結果依前項規定報請行政院予以核定"},{"start":8723.277,"end":8733.985,"text":"第14條經行政院合併之最低工資除審議會任由另訂實施日期必要並經行政院合併此外自次年1月1日實施"},{"start":8735.734,"end":8754.769,"text":"第15條 中央主管機關一第十三條第一項規定公告實施最低工資前原依《勞動基準法》公告之基本工資繼續有效本法施行後第一次公告之最低工資數額不得聽與本法施行前最後一次依《勞動基準法》公告之基本工資數額"},{"start":8757.711,"end":8765.244,"text":"第16條 最低工資之監督及檢查是用勞動基準法監督與檢查及其他相關事項之規定"},{"start":8768.427,"end":8793.869,"text":"第17條 勞工與雇主雙方議定之工資低於最低工資者由持強市縣市主管機關、主雇主或事業單位薪貸比2萬元以上100萬元下罰還並得依事業單位規模違反人數或違反情節加重其罰還制法定罰還最高額二分之一"},{"start":8794.889,"end":8822.8,"text":"經依前項規定逐一罰還者﹐居峽市縣市主管機關因公不甘事業單位或事業組織名稱、負責人姓名、處分日期及罰還金額﹐並限期令其改善,即其為改善者應按次處罰。居峽市縣市主管機關採處罰還,等審註與違反行為有關之勞工人數等計違法次數或為依法給付之金額,為良罰輕重之基準。"},{"start":8824.795,"end":8849.77,"text":"第18條本法實行後其他法規關於基本工資之規定適用本法最低工資之規定第19條本法實行日期由行政院定之宣讀完畢三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有文字修正決議最低工資法制定通過"},{"start":8852.39,"end":8859.537,"text":"報告委員會本法條次及條文中之條次授權議事人員調整繼續處理黨團協商保留台灣民眾黨黨團所提出附帶決議共一項請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容"},{"start":8869.018,"end":8897.362,"text":"附帶決議為達到合理生活水準並使最低工資審議會能充分橫著整體經濟成長及社會情勢勞動部應於本法施行過後定期檢討本法第9條所定之參考資料也無增減之必要並研議將勞工交通成本、租金年增率、就業扶養比等參考指標及條幅建議納入本法第9條所定之得參採研議方向宣讀完畢"},{"start":8901.865,"end":8928.04,"text":"請問院會沒有依照案通過現在處理院會所收台灣民眾黨黨團所提之附帶決議共一項請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容附帶決議要求勞動部應會同行政院公共工程委員會研議明定契約範本內應包含參加政府採購之廠商若有違反本法規範之情勢應於一定期間內"},{"start":8929.991,"end":8953.398,"text":"排除其參與政府採購之權利且將違反本法條之廠商名單公開於政府電子採購網宣讀完畢請院會有異沒有異 照案通過判案完成立法程序後由委員登記發言每位委員發言時間兩分鐘並截止發言登記首先請范雲委員"},{"start":8975.778,"end":8991.675,"text":"副院長大家好最低工資法終於三讀通過小英總統任內基本工資連巴掌但是在小英總統之前因為沒有法制化的規範連年調升並不是常態更曾經動漲10年"},{"start":8993.817,"end":9011.125,"text":"所以我也一直呼籲最低工資法的立法建立穩定的審議機制實質反映生活水平的變動才能確保勞工維持具有人性尊嚴的基本生活品質我在2021年就提出最低工資法的草案也直接質詢勞動部長"},{"start":9013.126,"end":9031.26,"text":"五度跟民團召開記者會呼籲勞動部儘速提出對案我要特別謝謝未還委員會跟所有關心的委員此外要特別感謝勞政、全產總、北產總的建議跟協助讓立法院能夠看到弱勢勞工的需求"},{"start":9032.2,"end":9050.374,"text":"這次的立法讓台灣得以趕上世界的腳步建構完善的最低工資審議機制重要的是全台灣領基本工資的240萬勞工未來不用再擔心薪資動漲在通膨之下反而成為變相減薪"},{"start":9051.375,"end":9068.965,"text":"雖然我版本中時薪與月薪不脫鉤已經更為強化的公民參與機制並未納入但是未來我會持續關注新法上路的情況落實最低工資持續合理調漲保障我們全台灣最弱勢的勞工謝謝鄭政前委員聲明對早上的表決以國民黨黨團意見致列入公報記錄接下來請陳焦華委員"},{"start":9093.837,"end":9110.323,"text":"主席、各位同仁最低工資立法是時代力量不斷堅持的價值和主張時代力量自2016年提出最低工資法草案2018年推動最低工資法公投案再到2023年的今天完成立法"},{"start":9111.025,"end":9139.644,"text":"時代力量的信念不變始終如一蔡政府從上任前就開始講的最低工資法拖了7年拖到第10屆的最後一個會期才送到立法院今天看到最低工資法終於三讀我只能說這不過是執政黨為了挽救選情才終於趕在這個會期的尾聲才通過的法案不過實力必須說我們只能給予蔡政府最低限度的肯定"},{"start":9140.397,"end":9144.128,"text":"畢竟這次的結果人不盡善不盡完美"},{"start":9144.724,"end":9172.629,"text":"一方面我們固然肯定勞動部在歷經多次強力批評之後終於願意參採實力的意見規定行政院不得無限次的退回專業審議的結果讓行政院退回的次數只能以一次為限之後就必須要尊重專業審議的結果畢竟2012年勞委會主委下台的政治風暴再次以避免"},{"start":9173.949,"end":9201.604,"text":"2012年勞委會主委下台的政治風暴再次重演但另一方面針對勞工朋友蔡政府心中最軟的一塊勞動部卻拒絕把每年的通膨年增率列為最低工資調漲的樓地板放任最低工資被每年的通膨吃掉我們雖然多次爭取把通膨年增率納入成為最低工資調漲的樓地板"},{"start":9203.342,"end":9217.471,"text":"但非常遺憾勞動部仍然拒絕修改今日實例推動8年的最低工資法終於成功立法未來還有不盡完善的地方我們希望能夠再把它修好接下來請曾明中委員"},{"start":9238.969,"end":9264.053,"text":"謝謝主席蔡委員長各位同仁大家好最低工資法剛剛完成三讀有兩點意見第一點程序上要訂定最低工資法是蔡英文總統的政見但是拖了超過七年半都不提出修正草案直到最近才虛映故事將修正草案送到立法院來這是第一點第二點實質內容的部分第七條審議委員有21人勞動部"},{"start":9268.334,"end":9291.343,"text":"長、擔任召集人、經濟部一人、國發會一人、專家、協責4人勞方代表只有7人、支方代表7人將要組成結構沒有辦法到時候做實質的決策國民黨團是希望勞方代表要過半第二點是第9條有關最低工資審議應參與消費者物價指數擬定調整弧度"},{"start":9295.544,"end":9318.221,"text":"那基本上國民黨團是希望強力要求就是調整的弧度不得低於前一年的CPI也就是消費者物價指數這樣才有辦法隨著物價的調整來保障所有勞工的最低消費的權益保障最低工資保障法"},{"start":9319.383,"end":9348.272,"text":"不是要保障他的名目是要保障他的實質購買力這兩條重要的條文國民黨團都提出修正動議各位看到了剛剛表決的時候國民黨強力支持但是民進黨都強力反對所以最低工資法雖然完成三讀但基本上我議期最低工資法"},{"start":9349.292,"end":9357.905,"text":"徒計行事沒有辦法發揮他實質的功能我高度懷疑民進黨打假球打假球打假球接下來請求選自委員"},{"start":9380.097,"end":9405.96,"text":"主席各位同仁今天看到最低工資法終於刪讀我的心中百感交集最低工資法立法向來是十二力量的核心主張不管是在第九屆還是第十屆的國會十二力量都是第一個領先提出最低工資法草案的政黨反觀蔡政府從上任前就開始講的最低工資法"},{"start":9407.101,"end":9424.199,"text":"卻拖了7年拖到選舉前的最後一個會期才送到立法院好像如果不是因為選舉就不用遵守承諾就不用照顧勞工一樣雖然最低工資法拖到現在終於完成三讀該給的肯定還是要給"},{"start":9425.16,"end":9447.621,"text":"可是我也必須要說這部法還是有許多沒有處理好的地方我在這個審議的過程之中強調的原則很簡單我認為最低工資法至少要做到兩個最基本的保障第一個是對弱勢勞工的保障因此我主張最低工資的條幅不能夠低於物價的漲幅"},{"start":9449.182,"end":9470.322,"text":"為的就是不希望讓弱勢的勞工的薪水被高漲的物價吃掉這應該是政府最基本的工作也是勞工最卑微的請求可惜勞動部不接受因為保持彈性比勞工的三餐更重要我主張的第二個保障是對審議專業的保障"},{"start":9472.023,"end":9488.103,"text":"我認為最低工資的審議會當中資方、勞方以及專家學者三方的人數應該要相同這也是日本跟韓國的這個相關的制度但是勞動部不論是日本法或韓國法"},{"start":9489.946,"end":9503.302,"text":"都認為說勞動部的主張基本上根本就不符合國外的這個比較法上面的制度那我要嚴正的提醒勞動部請不要在審查時候提供錯誤的訊息"},{"start":9526.467,"end":9528.229,"text":"接下來請吳育琴委員"},{"start":9545.224,"end":9564.142,"text":"謝謝主席我想今天最低工資法能夠三讀通過應該是大家朝野共識希望能夠通過這個法那爭議其實沒有那麼大這剛我也特別的說明我想最低工資法自我們這個蔡總統上任來其實已經逐步調整基本工資從2萬08元到2萬7400是"},{"start":9571.548,"end":9600.394,"text":"470元這個漲幅達37%時薪也從120元漲到183元這個漲幅也到52%這都是具體的施政作為也公平合理的將台灣的經濟成果分享給勞工朋友縮短這個貧富的差距追求合理分配的一個積極手段那在這之前當然我們台灣整個社會對於勞工的性質確實有一些壓抑所以以降低這個產業的製造的成本所以造成工資合理性有一些落差"},{"start":9601.414,"end":9618.321,"text":"加上近年來的疫情和戰爭所牽動的物價上漲所以新資的漲幅帶給人民的富足感受不如預期的大但是這個是正確的道路調整新資我們就必須堅持不短視共同來追求"},{"start":9618.801,"end":9620.963,"text":"本院司法及法制委員會報告併案審查行政院、司法院函請審議、委員張廖萬堅等21人、委員張廖萬堅等22人、委員張廖萬堅等21人、委員張廖萬堅等21人、委員張廖萬堅等21人、委員"},{"start":9639.061,"end":9666.984,"text":"調整的建議公告的事項都在本法裡面有明確的規範所以本法通過之後國家的一個穩定是會有一個常態穩定的一個制度那剛剛大家提到了包括成員的一個組成我想這個剛我有在說明裡面其實在各國裡面它是三方一個是資方、勞方還有第三方那第三方的組成通常是學者、專家跟政府所以我們現在的最低基本工資的一個組成也是這樣的一個組成所以是符合"},{"start":9667.545,"end":9668.907,"text":"人民的期待 以上謝謝"},{"start":9689.668,"end":9705.443,"text":"謝謝主席還有大院所有同仁以及全國國人同胞最低公司法懸額未決7年直到今年大選再起才送入立法院雖然遲到但總算在本屆最後一個會期停會之前完成三讀立法"},{"start":9706.685,"end":9728.864,"text":"讓勞工擁有合理的生活水準台灣民眾黨、立法院黨團一直呼籲朝野正式勞工低薪的困境別把勞工的基本工資當成互相供給的政治籌碼更不可以一再拖延立法程序被遺忘7年的最低工資法選前才終於被想起凸顯執政黨政府對於勞工權益的漠視"},{"start":9729.685,"end":9751.745,"text":"解決低薪的困境應該是不分黨派的台灣共識台灣民眾黨提出自己的版本審理及協商的過程中希望能夠更貼近政策執行的面向包含納入CPI相關的參財指數以及審議委員會的組成結構確保保障基層勞工的生活品質"},{"start":9752.586,"end":9782.086,"text":"低薪、通膨、高房價、青年事不應沒有是台灣長年以來結構性的問題而總統蔡英文第二任任期即將到達尾聲基本工資三萬元的目標已經確定跳票如何減輕民眾的生活負擔留住人才提升產業的競爭力與薪資的結構環環相扣也是未來政府必須從長計議的問題最低工資法完成立法三讀是解決勞工低薪血汗的開始"},{"start":9782.846,"end":9809.626,"text":"但是如何創造一個友善的勞資共榮的環境並且合理的分配經濟果實這個才是長遠的長治久安的政策目標各政黨應該在這樣的基礎上攜手合作確保最低工資法立法通過之後能夠有效的執行這不僅是對勞工的尊重也是促進社會公平和諧共榮的關鍵步驟我們期待繼續努力真正為民眾的福祉"},{"start":9810.286,"end":9837.868,"text":"進行實質有建設性的討論謝謝接下來請賴世保委員謝謝主席 請各位先進我們看到最低公司法終於三度通過"},{"start":9839.363,"end":9858.659,"text":"老實講我心中沒有一絲絲的喜悅他只是把現在機制變成法律位階其他都沒有我們看到蔡英文總統2016年選總統的時候她就講了她要推最低公司的法"},{"start":9860.427,"end":9879.226,"text":"在任內在未來工資要達到3萬塊這兩個都跳票啊蔡英文到底是跳票總統3萬塊沒有達到最低工資法那裡面是什麼東西我們看到今天來講純粹是因為賴清德選情緊張啊賴清德"},{"start":9883.646,"end":9908.644,"text":"他要騙票所以蔡英文是跳票總統賴清德是騙票總統候選人他知道勞工希望有最低工資法結果就唬弄大家今天老實講我們在野黨我們挺得多好啊重中之重就是實質的內容是什麼我的條幅要跟CPI掛在一起啊"},{"start":9910.522,"end":9932.307,"text":"結果行政部門執政黨不願意給我們這算哪門子的一個法案這個到底雞肋法案好像有但是空的但是空的今天最新的消息今年的前10月份勞工總薪資十指負成長啊"},{"start":9934.079,"end":9954.816,"text":"比不上物價的上漲我們再看我們看到勞工所得佔GDP台灣落到43%遠低於歐美的50%以上這個就可以看得到現在執政黨太偏袒資方了我們覺得這個法案還要繼續修要給勞工真的"},{"start":9964.966,"end":9971.723,"text":"謝謝 接下來請李德維委員李德維不在 接下來請林維洲委員"},{"start":9984.589,"end":10012.703,"text":"最低工資法雖然三讀通過了不過我們現在來檢視一下原來我們針對最低工資都用一個審議辦法而不是法律位階來處理所以我把它總結啦到底我們把它法制化以後對於勞工最低薪資的保障我們做到哪件事情就是說你做到什麼"},{"start":10014.327,"end":10040.222,"text":"其實只有一點就每年審議定期審議以前的審議辦法不是定期審議是執政者、總統碰到想要提高的時候才去審議我們達到的這個政策目標定期審議最低工資這個以外沒有了其他就沒有了"},{"start":10041.874,"end":10067.99,"text":"審議委員的組成還是偏向資方因為資方的代表跟勞方一樣但是又有政府的兩席代表那等於是政府在做決定因為資方代表跟勞方代表都是七席都一樣啊但是又有政府的代表所以等於政府在做決定那跟以前有什麼不一樣"},{"start":10069.301,"end":10097.118,"text":"只是定期審議差別而已啦另外CPI指數你要調的幅度一定要有意義要大於CPI指數才不會被通膨吃掉我們堅持這樣的原則結果行政院版本民進黨的版本不用高於CPI指數調一點點也可以甚至不調也可以調0.1也可以"},{"start":10099.426,"end":10119.675,"text":"這樣有意義嗎?通膨高於調薪那這樣有意義嗎?所以是騙選票啊為了選舉繼續進行討論事項第8案刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":10121.158,"end":10139.974,"text":"本院司法及法制委員會於112年11月29日召開決定委員會議並按審查本案由湯召集委員會政擔任主席除邀請提案委員說明提案要之外相關機關應邀指派代表列席說明並答覆委員詢問與會員與聽取報告並經詢答後審略大體討論進行逐條審查並將全案審查完略"},{"start":10145.698,"end":10169.731,"text":"原經決議本案審查完略,理據審查報告提起院會公決,不須交由黨團協商院會討論時,由湯召集委員慧珍出席說明宣讀完畢請召集委員、湯委員慧珍補充說明湯委員沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議沒有異議本案經依審查會意見處理現在進行逐條討論刑事訴訟法請宣讀第219條之3"},{"start":10174.795,"end":10197.964,"text":"第二百十九條之三第二百十九條之一之保全證據申請應向偵查中之該本檢察官為之但案件尚未移送或報告檢察官者應向調查之司法檢察官或司法警察所屬機關所在地之地方檢察署檢察官申請宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第二百十九條之七"},{"start":10198.581,"end":10226.682,"text":"第219條之7保全之證據與偵查中由該管檢察官保管但案件在司法檢察官或司法警察調查中經法院為准許保全證據之裁定者由該司法檢察官或司法警察所屬機關所在地之地方檢察署檢察官保管之懲判中保全之證據由命保全之法院保管但案件細除他法院者應送交給法院宣讀完畢"},{"start":10228.342,"end":10253.926,"text":"照審查會條文通過第二百五十七條第二百五十七條在依據申請原檢察官認為有理由者應撤銷其處分除前條情形外應繼續偵查或起訴原檢察官任申請為無理由者應即將該案件總及證物送交上級檢察署檢察長或檢察總長申請已於前二條之期間則應不回支"},{"start":10254.526,"end":10270.296,"text":"原檢察署檢察長認為必要時於依第二項之規定送交前得親自獲命令他檢察官再行專查獲審和分別撤銷或維持原處分及維持原處分者應即送交宣讀完畢"},{"start":10274.417,"end":10303.937,"text":"第258條尚捷檢察署檢察長或檢察總長任贊義為無理由者應不回之認為有理由者第256條之一則進行應撤銷員處分第256條則進行應分別為下列處分一、偵查未完備者得親自或命令他檢察官再行偵查或命令原檢察署檢察官蓄息偵查二、偵查已完備者命令原檢察署檢察官起訴宣討完畢"},{"start":10305.118,"end":10325.9,"text":"照審查會條文通過第二百八十八條第二百八十八條調查證據應於第二百八十七條程序完畢後行之審判長對於準備程序中當事人不爭執之被告以外之人之陳述得盡以宣讀或告以要旨待之但法院任由必要者不在此限"},{"start":10326.56,"end":10349.725,"text":"除檢視審判程序案件外,審判長就被告備訴事實為詢問者,應予調查證據程序之最後行之。審判長就被告科刑資料之調查,應予前項事實詢問後行之,並先小預當事人就科刑資料,指出證明之方法。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過,第385條。"},{"start":10351.687,"end":10374.828,"text":"第385條除前條情形外,原審法院於接受答辯書或提出答辯書之期間已滿後,應速將該案卷宗及證物送交第三審法院對應之檢察署檢察官第三審法院對應之檢察署檢察官接受卷宗及證物後,應於7日內添續意見書送交第三審法院"},{"start":10375.649,"end":10397.114,"text":"但與原審法院對應之檢察署檢察官提出之上訴書或答辯書外無他意見者無庸添具意見書無檢察官為當事人之上訴案件原審法院應將卷宗及證物禁送交第三審法院宣討完畢照審查會條文通過第427條"},{"start":10400.031,"end":10425.799,"text":"第427條為受判決人之利益申請在審﹖得由下列個人為之一、晚宵法院對應之檢查署檢查官二、受判決人三、受判決人之法定代理人或配偶四、受判決人已死亡者其配偶之系血清三清等內之旁系血清二清等內之陰清或家屬家屬宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第428條"},{"start":10427.284,"end":10455.336,"text":"第428條,未受判決人之不利於申請再審,得由管轄法院對應之檢察署檢察官及自述人為之但自述人申請再審者,已有第422條第一款規定之情形為限自述人已喪失行為能力或死亡者,得由第319條第一項所列,得為提起自述之人為前項之申請宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第430條"},{"start":10457.062,"end":10469.659,"text":"第430條 申請在審無停止新法執行之效力但管轄法院對應之檢察署檢察官於在審之裁定前得命停止宣讀完畢照審查會條通過第434條"},{"start":10471.67,"end":10489.568,"text":"第434條法院認為無在審理由者因以裁定不揮之、申請人或受裁定者不服前項裁定者等於裁定送達後10日內抗告經第一項裁定後不得更以同意原因申請在審宣討完畢照審查會條文通過第441條"},{"start":10491.314,"end":10505.61,"text":"第441條判決確定後發現該案件之審判系違背法令者最高法院最高檢察署檢察總長能向最高法院提起非常上訴宣討完畢照審查會條文通過第442條"},{"start":10508.243,"end":10526.91,"text":"第442條檢察官發現有檢調前行者應據意見書將更按卷宗及證物送交最高檢察署檢察總長申請提起非常上訴宣討完畢照審查會條文通過委員蔡宇等提案第442條之一不予增訂第455條之30"},{"start":10529.349,"end":10544.951,"text":"第455條是申請撤銷、沒收、確定判決、無停止執行這項案例但管轄法院對應之檢察處檢察官於撤銷、沒收、確定判決之裁定前得命停止宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第476條"},{"start":10546.755,"end":10562.03,"text":"第476條緩刑之宣告應撤銷者由受刑人所在地或其最後住所地之地方法院對應之檢察署檢察官申請該法院裁定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第477條"},{"start":10563.82,"end":10582.148,"text":"第477條,依刑法第53條及第54條,應依刑法第51條第5款之第7款之規定,定其應執行執行者由該案犯罪事實最後判決之法院,對應之檢察署檢察官被拒善本,審請該法院裁定之。"},{"start":10582.748,"end":10605.735,"text":"法院於監証聖本後應將聖本送達於受刑人受刑人或其法定代理人配偶亦得請求檢察官為前項之申請法院對於第一項申請除顯無必要或有急迫情形者外於裁定前應與受刑人以言辭或書面陳述意見之機會法院依第一項裁定其應執行執行者應記載審酌之事項宣讀完畢"},{"start":10610.834,"end":10637.853,"text":"照審查會條文通過 全案經過二讀 現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀 請務院會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀之條文第219條之3 第219條之1之保全證據申請應向偵查中之該館檢察官為之但案件尚未移送或報告檢察官者應向調查局司法檢察官或司法警察所屬機關所在地之地方檢察署檢察官申請"},{"start":10640.069,"end":10660.067,"text":"第219條之7保全之證據與偵查中由該管檢察官保管但案件在司法警察官或司法警察調查中經法院為准許保全證據之裁定者由該司法警察官或司法警察所屬機關所在地之地方檢察署檢察官保管之"},{"start":10660.988,"end":10687.871,"text":"審判中保全之證據由命保全之法院保管但案件細數他法院則應送交該法院第257條在依據申請原檢察官認為有理由者應撤銷其處分除簽調情形外應繼續偵查或起訴原檢察官任申請為無理由者應即將該案件終極證物送交上級檢察署檢察長或檢察總長"},{"start":10688.912,"end":10709.34,"text":"申請已於前二條之期間者應不回之原檢察署檢察長認為必要時與依第二項之規定送交前得親自或命令他檢察官再行專查或審核分別涉下或維持原處分其維持原處分者應即送交第258條上級檢察署檢察長或檢察總長"},{"start":10714.842,"end":10737.108,"text":"認贊義為無理由者應不揮之認為有理由者第256條追情行應串銷原處分第256條追情行應分別為下列處分一、偵查未完備者得親自或命令他檢察官再行偵查或命令原檢察署檢察官續行偵查二、偵查已完備者命令原檢察署檢察官起訴"},{"start":10738.991,"end":10766.582,"text":"第288條 調查證據因於第287條程序完畢後行之審判長對於準備程序中當事人不爭執之被告以外之人之陳述得經已宣讀或告以要之代之但法院任由必要者不在此限除檢視審判程序案件外審判長就被告背訴事實為詢問者因於調查證據程序之最後行之"},{"start":10767.302,"end":10777.115,"text":"審判長就被告科刑資料之調查應於前項事實詢問後行之並先小預當事人就科刑資料指出證明之方法"},{"start":10778.789,"end":10805.496,"text":"第385條除前條請行外原審法院於接受答辯書或提出答辯書之期間已滿後應速將該案卷宗及證物送交第三審法院對應之檢察署檢察官第三審法院對應之檢察署檢察官接受卷宗及證物後應於7日內添具意見書送交第三審法院但與原審法院對應之檢察署檢察官"},{"start":10806.036,"end":10834.611,"text":"提出之上訴書或答辯書外無他意見者無庸添具意見書無檢察官為當事人之上訴案件原審法院應將卷宗及證物禁送交第三審法院第427條未受判決人之利益申請在審得由下列各人為之一、晚霞法院對應之檢察署檢察官二、受判決人三、受判決人之法定代理人或配偶"},{"start":10835.291,"end":10856.776,"text":"四、受判決人亦死亡者、其配偶之系血親、三親等內之旁系血親、二親等內之因親或家長家屬第428條,未受判決人之不利益申請再審,得由管轄法院對應之檢察署檢察官及自述人為之,但自述人申請再審者"},{"start":10858.676,"end":10883.098,"text":"已有第422條第一款規定之起行為限自訴人已喪失行為能力或死亡者等由第319條第一項所列等為提起自訴之人為情商之申請第430條申請再審無停止刑法執行之效力但管轄法院對應之檢察署檢察官於再審之裁定前得命停滯"},{"start":10884.439,"end":10912.421,"text":"第434條﹐法院認為無在審理由者因以裁定不回之、申請人或受裁定人不符前項裁定者等於裁定送達後10日內抗告,經第一項裁定後不得更以同意原因申請暫時第441條﹐判決確定後發現該案件之審判系違背法令者﹐最高檢察署檢察總長等向最高法院提起非常上訴"},{"start":10914.775,"end":10926.707,"text":"第442條檢察官發現有檢調情形者應據意見書將該案捲綜及證物送將最高檢察署檢察總長申請提起非常上訴"},{"start":10928.735,"end":10954.697,"text":"第455條之30申請撤銷、沒收確定判決、無停止執行之效力但管轄法院對應之檢察署檢察官於撤銷、沒收確定判決之裁定前得命停滯第476條緩刑之宣告應撤銷者由受刑人所在地或其最後住所地之地方法院對應之檢察署檢察官申請該法院裁定之"},{"start":10956.846,"end":10985.948,"text":"第477條依刑法第53條及第54條應依刑法第51條第5款之第7款之規定定其應執行之刑者由該案犯罪事實最後判決之法院對應之檢察署檢察官備據善本申請該法院裁定之法院於接受善本後應將善本送達於受刑人受刑人或其法定代理人配偶應亦得請求檢察官為前項之申請"},{"start":10986.849,"end":11003.757,"text":"法院對於第一項申請除嫌無必要或有急迫情形者外於裁定前應與受刑人以言辭或書面陳述意見之機會法院依第一項裁定其應執行執行者應記載審酌之事項宣讀完畢三讀條語宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正"},{"start":11013.322,"end":11016.905,"text":"沒有文字修正決議刑事訴訟法第219條之3、第219條之7、第257條、第258條、第288條、第385條、第427條、第428條、第430條、第434條、第441條、第442條、第455條之30、第476條及第477條條文修正通過"},{"start":11042.869,"end":11048.806,"text":"討論事項第9案立法院程序委員會組織歸程第5條條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":11050.592,"end":11069.844,"text":"委員司法及法制委員會於112年11月27日召開決定委員會議審查本案由湯莊召集委員會政擔任主席除邀請提案黨團說明提案要指揮相關機關應邀指派代表列舉說明並答復委員詢問與候員予聽取報告並詢談完畢後審略大體討論進行主條審查並將全案審查完畢原清決議審查完畢擬據審查報告提請委員會公決本案不需再由黨團結商"},{"start":11080.151,"end":11102.603,"text":"約會討論時由湯召集委員會爭說明宣讀完畢請召集委員湯委員會爭補充說明湯委員沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交到黨團協商請問約會有無異議沒有異議本案經一審查會意見處理現在進行逐條討論立法院程序委員會組織規程請宣讀第五條"},{"start":11103.779,"end":11125.425,"text":"第5條本院各委員會審查議案由程序委員會依下列規定分配提報院會決定一、內政委員會審查內政、選舉大陸原住民族、客家海洋政策及有關內政部、中央選舉委員會、大陸委員會、原住民族委員會、客家委員會、海洋委員會、不當黨產處理委員會、整理事項之議案"},{"start":11126.045,"end":11141.38,"text":"二、外交及國防委員會審查外交、證物、國防退出與官兵輔導政策與宣戰案、共和案、條約案、戒嚴案及有關外交部、強務委員會、國防部、國軍退出官兵輔導委員會整理事項之議案"},{"start":11142,"end":11167.35,"text":"三、經濟委員會審查經濟、農業、國家發展、公平教育、能源政策及有關經濟部、農業部、國家發展委員會、公平教育委員會整理事項之議案四、財政委員會審查財政金融政策、預算、決算、儲計、審計及有關財政部、中央銀行金融監督管理委員會、前監獄主席總署整理事項之議案"},{"start":11167.97,"end":11189.669,"text":"五、教育及文化委員會審查教育文化科技政策及有關教育部文化部國立工工博物院、中央研究院、國家科學及技術委員會、核能安全委員會掌理事項之議案六、交通委員會審查交通數位發展、公共工程通訊傳播政策及有關交通部數位發展部"},{"start":11190.109,"end":11213.096,"text":"行政院公共工廠委員會、國家通訊傳播委員會國家運輸安全調查委員會整理事項之議案其司法及法制委員會審查民事、刑事、行政訴訟、懲戒、大審、機關組織與有關防務部、行政院人事行政總署整理事項及其他部署一各委員會審查之議案國營事業機構組織之議案應視其性質由有關委員會主持"},{"start":11217.697,"end":11245.529,"text":"八、社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查衛生環境社會福利、勞工消費者保護政策及有關衛生福利部、環境部、勞動部長領事項之議案前項議案審查之分配其性質與其他委員會有關聯著配由主持審查之委員會與有關委員會會同審查之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過"},{"start":11246.954,"end":11261.334,"text":"決議立法院程序委員會組織規程第5條條文修正通過討論事項第10案國家電影及視聽文化中心113年度預算案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":11262.847,"end":11291.553,"text":"本院教育及文化委員會於112年11月2日召開決定委員會議邀請文化部部長石哲等相關人員列行說明並等過委員諮詢赴於112年11月16日召開決定委員會議進行實質審查二次會議均由鄭兆景文立文擔任主席本案審查完均已具審查報告提醒委員會公決本案不須交由黨團協商約會討論時推請鄭兆景文立文補充說明宣讀完畢"},{"start":11293.594,"end":11306.122,"text":"請召集委員、政委員、立委員補充說明政委員沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交到黨團協商請問院會有異議沒有異議本案經一審查會意見處理請宣讀國家電影及視聽文化中心"},{"start":11307.083,"end":11335.242,"text":"國家電影及視聽文化中心113年度預算書案一、業務計劃因依據業務收支固定資產建設改良擴充及資金運用等項追審查結果隨從調整二、業務收支一、業務總收入二、業務總日出三、本期短處均照列三、固定資產建設改良擴充照列四、資金運用因依據業務收支及固定資產建設改良擴充等項追審查結果隨從調整五、通過決議影像宣讀完畢"},{"start":11338.223,"end":11351.806,"text":"照審查會意見通過,全案經過二讀,先由民黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀,請務院會有異議,沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀,直條文國家電影及視聽文化中心113年度預算署案,宣讀完畢"},{"start":11354.585,"end":11375.965,"text":"更正剛剛應該是宣讀經過二讀之內容好 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