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報載論壇的創辦人還在平台上大言不慚大肆的宣揚我們台灣中華民國的政府無能如果說衛福部沒有這個技術速發部你在哪裡"},{"start":3149.269,"end":3164.015,"text":"毫無作為只會先養你自己的認為認定的自我政績而真正發生事情的時候我們看到速發部、衛福部、NCC檢調應該要蓋更積極的辦理"},{"start":3167.156,"end":3187.102,"text":"我們更希望當立法委員不斷的修法不斷的正視這個問題的時候司法機關會判這麼重嗎我們的行政機關會積極辦理嗎難道一切就只是仰賴著立法委員修法事情就可以根絕嗎"},{"start":3188.513,"end":3203.703,"text":"我們希望政府不要只是在亡羊補牢等到大家質疑了才願意拿出自己的作為更不要說衛福部對於虛擬二次元的創製已經做了管制非常態度強硬"},{"start":3204.423,"end":3230.861,"text":"但是對於持有真實的三次元違法的影片的黃子椒是否將其列為拒絕往來戶卻是覺得有點困難覺得有點兩難讓子回頭很重要我們當然要守護網路這些二次元也避免有性剝削但不是一昧的拿這個來把所有的創作者都與以框在一起"},{"start":3231.661,"end":3244.188,"text":"最後我想包括我們的黨團立法委員透過自己的行使權力為人民爭取權益卻被不當的民進黨黨團抹黑的時候我們予以譴責謝謝羅廷偉委員的發言接下來我們請登記第8號陳委員冠廷發言"},{"start":3275.302,"end":3291.404,"text":"各位國人同胞早那我想藉著國是論談談幾件事情特別是無人機相關的議題無人機考照那我想無人機的這個操作的證照規定是每兩年需要更新一次那考試的地點也不是每一個縣市都有"},{"start":3292.042,"end":3321.486,"text":"那像我們嘉義縣的農民可能需要再花時間到其他縣市來參加考試那這一點的話當然是會引起一些農民特別是在農忙的時候會比較不方便所以藉由國是論堂我們是希望說呼籲相關的主管機關能夠來去偵測這樣子的考場那我也希望民航局還有農事所能夠研議把這個證照的部分有效期限可以延長3年至5年"},{"start":3322.045,"end":3348.931,"text":"那特別其實這個部分很多農民其實已經直接在他們的這個相關的場域已經每天都在練習使用所以必須要考量這個證照的這個長度那確保說那些農民朋友們能夠不要在農忙的時候再增加這個不便性那考場的設置也必須要考量到有一些農民朋友們可能交通的距離比較遠那我們講的並不是指"},{"start":3349.744,"end":3369.111,"text":"只有在嘉義而有其實包含在南投縣那整個南投縣其實目前看起來他的這個可進性是不夠的可能要到其他鄰近縣市那花東地區那當然更是如此那特別是花東地區的部分地區的這個狹長性這一個部分我想也都需要主管機關來去列入考量"},{"start":3369.711,"end":3396.114,"text":"讓我們的農民朋友能夠更加的能夠使用這個科技農業來去做這些事情降低農用無人機操作者的負擔讓他們能夠更專注於日常工作而不是瑣碎的這個政兆更新那剛才幾位委員有提到兒少剝削的事情那我想藉著國是論談再次強調一件事情剝削這個性剝削的事情它並不是只有一個政黨它其實每一個政黨都在關注的事情"},{"start":3396.727,"end":3421.81,"text":"我們知道說最近有許多議題大家都想要在這個部分來去討論但是不可以因為我們憎恨或者是不喜歡另外一個政黨然後就把這些事情把它合理化我想這是最糟糕的事情不管是國民黨、民進黨甚至是民眾黨對這件事情是有共識的不管是加重其刑罰或者是在對於散播者、製造者依照比例來去加重"},{"start":3422.17,"end":3436.604,"text":"我想這些我們都可以一步一步的把它完成不會因為說比如說我們討厭或者是不滿反對黨或者是我們不滿執政黨然後把這個作為剝削的事件來去把它合理化那我想這對輿論來講是非常糟糕的"},{"start":3437.225,"end":3457.5,"text":"那近期其實我們藉由一些在一些委員會的時候我們來去聽這其他委員其實對這件事情是有共識的既然有共識那就不要因為政黨之間的這些辯論也好來去合理化這些性剝削的事件我想這是非常要不得的事情那我也希望說未來我們能夠朝著這個方面一起前進"},{"start":3463.966,"end":3468.974,"text":"謝謝陳冠廷委員的發言接下來我們請登記第9號林委員配降發言"},{"start":3484.022,"end":3498.339,"text":"害人聽聞知法、合法、依法來利用議事規則向中央爭取地方的建設來造福地方的民眾是我立法委員的基本工作內容怎麼會是害人聽聞"},{"start":3500.1,"end":3510.214,"text":"本席是林佩祥是基隆市的民意代表是中華民國的國會議員基隆市財政困難最大的傳統市場仁愛市場二樓有250個攤位冷氣超過30年沒有修繕"},{"start":3515.1,"end":3529.789,"text":"而需要一大筆的經費更新的時候主管機關經濟部卻給不到三分之一的經費來去做修繕要民眾跟攤商這個夏天沒有冷氣可以吹本席向經濟部徵取預算來徹底修繕冷氣有什麼不對"},{"start":3531.25,"end":3548.665,"text":"所以我附議了一個一億五千萬的凍結預算尾款後面卻是經濟部技術師的一個科技專案的補助預算一年就高達228億涵蓋的範圍又是AI又是低碳淨零又是智慧感測又是替代食材"},{"start":3549.426,"end":3566.582,"text":"我請經濟師來做口頭報告說這221億、8億你們到底做了什麼報告是說用中研院的技術來培養5家新創公司然後又說公司到現在還在孵化期所以成效不明所以我不同意取消復議這又有什麼不對"},{"start":3567.683,"end":3595.469,"text":"我在交通委員會我看到基隆捷運10年編了將近150億桃園捷運6年編了將近200億新北捷運9年也不過200多億然後你經濟部被我擋下的8個案子的預算違款只有159千萬但實質上已經花掉了整體將近347億一年347億一年那我要你經濟部說清楚講明白再測案這有什麼不對"},{"start":3597.185,"end":3611.07,"text":"如果我不去講清楚、查清楚、說明白這種濫用公帑、浪費民脂民膏的行為這才叫做害人聽聞至於護航的人也不就是醫老、賣老同流合污換了屁股就換了腦袋的商標者"},{"start":3612.93,"end":3630.863,"text":"我直接報告我們家人的鄉親、中國的民眾這些經費都是我們的血汗錢但是中央輕輕鬆鬆的就把這347億給花了而這只是經濟部下面幾個單位而已如果我不查清楚這經濟部347億去了哪裡這才是身為國會議員的失職"},{"start":3633.024,"end":3658.46,"text":"我在這裡也跟某位前輩喊話,我是他的理化預言,不是交通委員會的交通委員而已。如果我代表基隆人替基隆市政區議事,我天經地義,這不叫泰人聽聞,在國會裡面夜郎自大,這才叫泰人聽聞。以上。謝謝林佩祥委員的發言。接下來我們請登記第10號黃委員建豪發言。"},{"start":3669.244,"end":3683.397,"text":"各位國人同胞大家早安本期今天要談的第一件事情是關於近期這個兒少性剝削的問題我想台灣的兒少問題從兒少的虐待到性剝削都有非常嚴重的結構問題"},{"start":3684.938,"end":3700.113,"text":"我們立法委員該做的事情就是把相關的法律來把它補正近期大家關心的兒少性剝削大家關注的是拍攝者大家關注的是施暴者但是我們要講這個事情如果沒有觀賞者"},{"start":3701.474,"end":3718.411,"text":"沒有市場他就沒有人會去產製這個過程所以閱聽大眾也是這個共犯結構的一部分所以本席在這邊要提出來我們會提出一個修法未來不僅是持有的人不只是拍攝的人不只是施暴的人"},{"start":3718.971,"end":3740.325,"text":"未來包含觀賞、未來包含分享相關兒少影片、兒少性剝削的所有的使用者都應該要負擔相關的法律責任我們才能夠從源頭徹底的杜絕這種兒少性剝削才能夠從源頭的徹底杜絕這種影片產製的過程"},{"start":3741.506,"end":3764.739,"text":"今天不管你持有一部影片也好持有百部影片也好只要有一件事情發生那個就是我們一個民主國家一個文明社會的悲哀所以對任何持有的人、觀賞的人、購買的人我們都應該立法予以嚴懲我們才能夠徹底斬斷這個不歸路另外本席也要來正式回應"},{"start":3766.038,"end":3792.446,"text":"民進黨總召指控本席害人聽聞我們要問一下到底立法委員到底國會議員的職責是在護航行政部門還是在監督其他國會議員今天本席提出的住都中心預算的這個復議案就是因為我們看到民進黨執政8年以來當年承諾要興建20萬戶社會住宅但是截至今年為止"},{"start":3793.246,"end":3815.182,"text":"完成興建的只有4672戶正在興建的只有24508戶這個數字遠遠不及各地方政府自己興建的數量國家編列了龐大的預算給住宅中心國家編列了這麼多人力給住宅中心讓住宅中心在各地來興建社會住宅這個政策"},{"start":3816.142,"end":3838.172,"text":"執行不力本席當然要對相關的預算提出凍結提出複議希望住宅中心能夠把這個社會住宅的政策好好的執行好好的跟說明之後再予以解鬥再予以這個執行相關的計畫但是我們看到民進黨換了位子忘記換了腦袋自己忘記自己國會議員的身份"},{"start":3840.034,"end":3865.397,"text":"國會議員提出相關副議案該來解釋該來說明的是行政部門沒想到民進黨跳過了正常的監督程序直接動用政黨表決這是國會的最大的遺憾謝謝黃建豪委員的發言現在登記國是論壇發言的委員均已發言完畢現在休息"},{"start":5424.448,"end":5433.881,"text":"報告院會現在我們開會請秘書長報告出席人數報告院會出席為59人移租法定人數"},{"start":5437.896,"end":5448.959,"text":"現在開會進行報告事項請秘書長宣讀第一會期第8次會議意思錄宣讀立法院第11屆第一會期第8次會議意思錄時間中華民國113年4月9日上午9時至9時14分10時至11時19分下午10時至54分地點本院議場出席委員陳委員招致等96人"},{"start":5459.501,"end":5469.51,"text":"請教委員、張委員、齊凱等17人、主席院長韓國瑜報告事項第一案宣讀本院第11屆第1會期第7次會議事錄決定確定第二至26案、第二至9至98案、第一百至349案"},{"start":5475.976,"end":5500.645,"text":"第三百五十一至三百五十九案均決定交互相關委員會審查處理或交互相關委員會第二十七案、第二十八案、第二十九案均決定同意撤回第三百五十案決定退為程序委員會重新提出第三百六十至三百六十四案為財政委員會等所提出報告案質詢事項甲、行政院達號部分兩件"},{"start":5501.405,"end":5525.043,"text":"以本院委員諮詢部分一件,討論事項第一至四案,均決議復議案不通過,第五至七案均決議協商後再行處理,第八案、第九案均決議含請行政院人處,第十案決議另定其處理,其他事項,民進黨黨團提議變更議程一案予以通過,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":5527.895,"end":5554.945,"text":"報告院會,針對第一會期第8次會議一事錄並無委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處,作以下之決定。第一會期第8次會議一事錄,確定。請宣讀第二案。第二案,本院委員吳宗憲等17人離去,人工智慧基本法草案請示一案。程序委員會建議請回交交通委員會審查。宣讀完畢。報告院會無異通過下一案。"},{"start":5555.387,"end":5580.255,"text":"第三案,本院委員王定宇等20人離聚,無羈髮第二條及第19條條維修政策案請水暗。財修委員會見例行會交,內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第三案,本院委員王定宇等19人離聚,老年農民福利競爭條例第4條條維修政策案請水暗。財修委員會見例行會交,社會福利及衛生環境經濟內政三委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":5582.389,"end":5599.219,"text":"第五案。委員陳寧菲等18人離聚公務人員退休之前復續法第34條條文修正常案請審議案。財修委員會見你請會交司法及法制委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第六案。委員陳寧菲等18人離聚中華民國刑法第135條、第136條及第140條條文修正常案請審議案。財修委員會見你請會交司法及法制委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":5608.769,"end":5633.38,"text":"無異議通過下案。第7案。本院委員陳一輝等24人理據《電子簽裝法修正草原勤水案》、《財修委員會建立請外交、交通委員會審查》。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下案。第8案。本院委員林月琴等10千人理據《能工生殖法部分條文修正草原勤水案》、《財修委員會建立請外交、社會福利金融生環境司法及法治兩務委員會審查》。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下案。"},{"start":5633.8,"end":5652.878,"text":"第9案,本院委員張志倫等17人聯聚,獲問順意條例第12條條文修正常,請誰案。財修委員會見議請會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異,通過下一案。第10案,本院委員馬文君等17人聯聚,性別平等工作法第20條條文修正常,請誰案。財修委員會見議請會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異,通過下一案。"},{"start":5658.035,"end":5681.693,"text":"第11案本院委員馬文君等17人理據特殊禁慾將臨服輸條例第二條條文修正常請審案財修委員會見例行會交身外福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第12案本院委員馬文君等17人理據勞動基準法第49條條文修正常請審案財修委員會見例行會交身外福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":5682.353,"end":5708.261,"text":"無異議通過下議案。第13案本院委員羅志強等22人聯聚立法院職權刑事法第25條條維修正常競選議案。陳秀妍會見理行會將司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下議案。第14案本院委員羅志強等19人聯聚公教人員保險法第35條條維修正常競選議案。陳秀妍會見理行會將司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下議案。"},{"start":5708.649,"end":5735.118,"text":"第15案,本院委員羅志強等18人聯聚,總統、副總統順序罷免法第29條及第64條條文修政策勤水案,柴樹園會見理情環境內政委員會審查,宣告完畢。無異,通過下一案。第16案,本院委員羅志強等20人聯聚,援助民族工作權保障法部門條文修政策勤水案,柴樹園會見理情環境內政委員會審查,宣告完畢。無異,通過下一案。"},{"start":5735.543,"end":5763.782,"text":"第十七案本院委員盧憲毅等16人臨具《野生動物保育法》第3條維修政策請水案。朝訓委員會見理情會交、經濟委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過。下議案。第十八案本院委員王世堅等22人臨具《中華民國刑法》第339條、第339條之3及第339條之4條維修政策請水案。朝訓委員會見理情會交、司法及法政委會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過。下議案。"},{"start":5764.161,"end":5784.178,"text":"第十九案、本院元王事件等23人離聚、娛樂稅法第二條及第五條條維修正常勤稅案、財政委員會審查、宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。第20案、本院元王事件等10千人離聚、海關進口稅責、部分稅責、修正常勤稅案、財政委員會審查、宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":5788.444,"end":5806.033,"text":"第二十一案本院委員王世堅的23人理廢紙印花稅法請選案財修委員會見例行委會交財政委員會審查宣准完畢第二十二案本院委員王世堅的16人理據證券交易法第155條條維修政策請選案財修委員會見例行委會交財政委員會審查宣准完畢"},{"start":5810.592,"end":5830.775,"text":"報告院會報告事項第22案現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有無異議無異議本案退回程序委員會重新提出下一案"},{"start":5831.533,"end":5858.079,"text":"第二十三案委員蔡協商27人聯聚社會救助法第4條、第4條、第1及第5條條文修正採完請審案。財修院會見立行會長、社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異通過下議案第二十四案委員蔡協商27人聯聚就業服務法部分條文修正採完請審案。財修院會見立行會長、社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異通過下議案"},{"start":5858.479,"end":5882.651,"text":"第二十五案。本院委員審判會等17日連續金融監督管理委會組織法第二條、第三條及第七條條文修正常案請審一案。財修委員會見例行會交司法及法制財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。第二十六案。本院委員審判會等17日連續銀行法增訂部分條文常案請審一案。財修委員會見例行會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":5883.53,"end":5895.948,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第二十七案本院委員審判會的十七任理據《審計法部分條文修正策》請審一案。陳書陽會見例行會交財政委或審查。宣告完畢。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":5896.479,"end":5914.318,"text":"第二十方案,本院委員審判會等17人已廢止《行政院環境保護署組織條例》、《行政院環境保護署讀物及化學物質局組織法》及《行政院環境保護署環境檢驗所組織條例》。請審議案。財修委員會見例行會交司把其法律、社會福利及衛生環境的難務委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":5916.482,"end":5941.539,"text":"第二十九案本院委員審判會等時限已廢止經濟部公寓局組織條例經濟部中小企業局組織條例經濟部中央地區調查所組織條例經濟部水利署水利規劃試驗所組織條例經濟部水利署各河川局組織通則經濟部水利署各區水資源局組織通則經濟部水利署組織條例經濟部能源局組織條例經濟部產業原訓管理局組織條例經濟部智慧財產局組織條例"},{"start":5945.241,"end":5966.777,"text":"經濟部標準檢驗局所屬各分局組織通則及經濟部面論檢驗局組織條例請審案。陳秀妍會見你請回交司法及法制進行兩委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第30案。白玉園成營黨執行的理據﹐地方民意代表費用之及其村民掌握事務補助費補助條例第5條、第6條及第7條條維修政策請審案。陳秀妍會見你請回交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":5971.829,"end":5996.699,"text":"五議通過下一案。第三十一案。委員政見財等18人聯聚,國土計劃法第23條條維修正常勤申案。財修委員會見,立即向內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。第三十二案。委員定學中26人聯聚,並暫緩理條例第21條之一條維修正常勤申案。財修委員會見,立即向內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。"},{"start":5997.159,"end":6022.708,"text":"第三十三案。本院原定學中的十九人聯聚公立學校教職員退休資格服務條例第37條條維修政策請審案。財修委員會見立行會交司法及法治教育及文化聯委會審查。宣讀外閉。無異議通過。下一案。第三十四案。本院原張家俊的28人聯聚並贈合理條第21條之一條維修政策請審案。財修委員會見立行會交內政委會審查。宣讀外閉。"},{"start":6023.561,"end":6047.677,"text":"五、一、通過下一案。第三十五案。本院委員林德福的二十人聯聚,御孫堡在內地八十一條之一條文草案請水案。財修委員會建議請回交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五、一、通過下一案。第三十六案。本院委員林大化的十七人聯聚,臺灣地區有道路地區人民關係條例的二十一條條文修正草案請水案。財修委員會建議請回交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6048.427,"end":6073.966,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第三十七案本院委員禮待話等17人聯聚住宅法第25條條維修正常請審議案。求修院會見立行委員會將內政委員會審查。宣告完畢。無異議通過下一案。第三十方案本院委員禮待話等17人聯聚國際法第二條及第六條條維修正常請審議案。求修院會見立行委員會將內政委員會審查。宣告完畢。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":6074.414,"end":6096.278,"text":"第三十九二、本院委員連帶話等18人臨去上綱法第53條條文修正草原請審議案。財修委員會見立即會交消動委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下議案。第四十二、本院委員輪名財等18人臨廢止印花稅法請審議案。財修委員會見立即會交財修委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下議案。"},{"start":6096.704,"end":6100.769,"text":"第四是一案：本月5月倫敏財等16日禮費之輿論稅法請審議案：財修委員會見：您請會交財修委員會審查：宣傳為畢。無異通過下一案"},{"start":6107.128,"end":6131.711,"text":"第42案。本院委員徐欣盈等20人聯聚就業防刑法第19條之二條吳修正草案請審議案。財修委員會建立行會將生物福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第43案。本院委員賴世寶等22人聯聚紀念日及節日實施法草案請審議案。財修委員會建立行會將內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":6132.113,"end":6151.791,"text":"第44案本院委員賴世寶等17人聯聚和子反應器設施研議條例草案請審議案．修園會見你請回交教育及文化經濟兩委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第45案本院委員賴世寶等20人聯聚納稅者權利保護法部分條文修正草案請審議案．修園會見你請回交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6155.353,"end":6181.54,"text":"五一通過下一案。第四十六案。本院委員賴世寶等23人聯聚,競爭無消費者保護法第11條條文修正常案請審議案。朝修委員會見你請會交財政委員會審查。宣讀外閉。五一通過下一案。第四十七案。本院委員賴世寶等23人聯聚,預算法增添第81條之一條文常案請審議案。朝修委員會見你請會交財政委員會審查。宣讀外閉。五一通過下一案。"},{"start":6182.042,"end":6191.39,"text":"第48案本院委員賴世寶的21人領據《財政紀律法》第6條、第10條及第12條之一條文修正常勤申案財修委員會見你請會長、財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。第49案本院委員賴世寶的23人領據《議程及贊助稅法》第16條、第16條之一及第20條條文修正常勤申案財修委員會見你請會長、財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":6210.014,"end":6232.639,"text":"第五十案本院委員賴世保等21屆年居公共政務法第十六條條文修正常請審議案。財政委員會審查宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。第五十一案本院委員賴世保等17年年居財政數字劃分法第十六條之二、第三十七條之二及第三十八條之二條文修正常請審議案。財政委員會審查宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":6237.608,"end":6262.857,"text":"第五十二案本院委內事保等二十五人聆聚財政書之劃分法第38條之一條維修政策請水案。前宣委員會見你請回交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。第五十三案本院委內事保等17人聆聚住宅法第15條及第23條條維修政策請水案。前宣委員會見你請回交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。"},{"start":6263.234,"end":6284.378,"text":"第54案本院委員鄭天才的16年年居原住民組委員會組織法第3條及第4條條文修正常請審議案陳秀園會見李錦輝交司法及法徵年稅兩委員會審查宣讀完畢無異通過下一案第55案本院委員邱志偉的16年年居企業併用法第27條條文修正常請審議案陳秀園會見李錦輝交經濟委員會審查宣讀完畢報告委員會"},{"start":6289.961,"end":6314.25,"text":"報告事項第55案現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有無異議無異議重新再提出再向院會報告一次"},{"start":6316.087,"end":6334.556,"text":"報告四項第55案現由臺灣民眾黨黨團提出提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有無異議無異議本案退回程序委員會重新提出繼續下一項繼續"},{"start":6335.39,"end":6359.64,"text":"第56案本院委員陳秀寶等20人鄰居學生福島法部份條文說正常請水一案才修委員會見理情會教教育及文化委員會審查宣讀外幣。無異通過下案第57案本院委員陳秀寶等20人鄰居學校飲食法常請水一案才修委員會見理情會教教育及文化委員會審查宣讀外幣。無異通過下案"},{"start":6360.046,"end":6381.618,"text":"第58案 本院委員吳麗華等17人聯聚﹐地方民意代表費用之際﹐集村理財人事務補助費補助條例第6條條維修政策請選案﹐柴樹園會見﹐立行會交內政委員會審查﹐宣讀完畢五議通過下案第59案 本院委員吳麗華等17人聯聚﹐野生動物保育法部分條維修政策請選案﹐柴樹園會見﹐立行會交經濟委員會審查﹐宣讀完畢五議通過下案"},{"start":6386.653,"end":6412.991,"text":"第60案本院委員徐富奎等17人聯聚老年農民福利津貼專行條例第4條條維修政策緊水案財修委員會見議請會交社會福利及衛生環境經濟內專三委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。第60議案本院委員徐富奎等16人聯聚技術及職業教育法第9條條維修政策緊水案財修委員會見議請會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。"},{"start":6413.339,"end":6436.919,"text":"第62案,本院原徐富回等17人理據《社會救助法》第11條條文修正草情審案,陳秀妍會見李景輝交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下議案。第63案,本院原徐富回等16人理據《電子欠償法》修正草情審案,陳秀妍會見李景輝交交通委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下議案。"},{"start":6437.335,"end":6459.746,"text":"第六十四案本院委員陳素月等17日臨聚李仙東為國安委法部份條文修正草案請水案。陳秀燕會計、理情會交、經濟委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下議案。第六十五案本院委員范宇等18日臨聚青年基本法草案請水案。陳秀燕會計、理情會交、教育界文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下議案。"},{"start":6460.168,"end":6485.589,"text":"第66案,本院院理驗修理撤回前提之《證券交易法》第165條主要條文修正草案案,朝修委員會建議請委員會同意撤回。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。第67案,請教育行為中華民國112年5月31日修正公布之《海洋污染防治法》第11條及第17條條文訂自113年2月1日施行。朝修委員會建議請委員會將內政委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6486.468,"end":6504.69,"text":"五一通過下一案。第六十八案．內政部海關修正人民團體選舉報免辦法部分條文﹐長訓委員會接例行會交內政委員會﹐宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。第六十九案．內政部海關修正消防法實行細則﹐長訓委員會接例行會交內政委員會﹐宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6505.427,"end":6531.972,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第七十一案。內政部喊為各級消防機關人員零用標準﹐名稱修正為﹐各級消防機關各人員零用標準﹐並修正條文﹐財修委員會見例請回交內政委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第七十一案。內政部喊送警診財產法人使用財產法人法第21條第二項第三環鎖定一定金額﹐財修委員會見例請回交內政委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":6532.403,"end":6558.701,"text":"第72案,內政部橫送內政部性別平等教育委員會修正辦法﹐財修委員會借例行會交內政委員會﹐宣讀完畢。第73案,海洋委員會橫送檢舉違反《海洋污染防治法案件》獎勵辦法﹐財修委員會借例行會交內政委員會﹐宣讀完畢。第74案,海洋委員會還未修正《海洋污染防治法》稅刑規則﹐財修委員會借例行會交內政委員會﹐宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6561.98,"end":6564.401,"text":"無異通過下一案。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":6574.96,"end":6585.77,"text":"第76案,經濟穩恆送與公共安全有關之防水、限水、蓄水、飲水建造物質主要設施設備項目,財修委員會屆立行會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。第77案,經濟穩恆維修正當陸地區法人團體來臺與臺灣地區法人團體合辦專業專討許可辦法部分調文,財修委員會屆立行委員會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6600.507,"end":6620.581,"text":"報告原會先由臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查本案交經濟委員會審查。無異通過下一案。第70方案經濟公安維修正商品先行放行辦法部分條文財經委員會借例行會交經濟委員會宣討完畢。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":6621.448,"end":6645.914,"text":"第79案。經濟部函送礦業權費及礦產權利及免徵或免疫移送行政執行認定原則。財修委員會見議請會交經濟委員會。宣讀外幣。第80案。經濟部函送中華民國臺灣政府與神話電力王國政府經濟合作協定第二號及第三號決議文中英文版引本。財修委員會見議請會交經濟外交及國防聯委員會。宣讀外幣。"},{"start":6648.991,"end":6658.763,"text":"無異通過下一案。第81案農業部海維修正農田水利事業人員人事管理辦法部份條文請學員會見例行會交經濟委員會。宣告完畢。報告委員會現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查本案交經濟委員會審查。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":6669.485,"end":6694.159,"text":"第82案,農業部海外修正公告美國堪瑟斯州紫宮嶼縣交情流行性感冒非益區山蜀財修院會見李請回交經濟委員會﹐宣布完畢。第83案,農業部海外廢止行政院農業委員會﹐主管社處漁港局域內﹐傳播進行沖油質行為需依法申請許可﹐財修院會見李請回交經濟委員會﹐宣布完畢。"},{"start":6694.79,"end":6710.554,"text":"無異議通過下議案。第84案農業部行為行政院農業委員會專業獎章搬給辦法 名稱修正為《農業部專業獎章搬給辦法》並修正第3條、第4條、第7條條文及第5條、副表2、第6條、副表3。陳修緣會見你請回交經濟委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下議案。"},{"start":6714.261,"end":6722.548,"text":"第85案 農業部韓文行政院農業委員會苗栗區農業改良廠臺灣蠶蜂昆蟲教育園區收費標準 名稱修正為《農業部苗栗區農業改良廠臺灣蠶蜂昆蟲教育園區收費標準並修正第二條條文》財修委員會見議請回交經濟委員會宣傳完畢"},{"start":6733.157,"end":6749.011,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第86案。農業部海外行政院農業委員會﹐存管特定非公務機關自動安全管理作業辦法﹐名稱修正為﹐農業部存管特定非公務機關自動安全管理辦法﹐管理作業辦法並修正條文﹐採訪委員會見議請會長經濟委員會。宣傳完畢。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":6753.274,"end":6760.72,"text":"第87案 農業部海維修正公共美國印第安納州自公併原性價錢流行性感冒非疫區刪除 財修委員會見議請會長進行委員會宣討完畢"},{"start":6764.127,"end":6777.538,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第88案財政部還從本月修正促進民間參與公共建設法部份條文通過負擔決議第一項制定三項執法領執行。求修委員會前,您請回交財政委員會。宣討完畢。報告委員會現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查本案交財政委員會審查。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":6788.069,"end":6812.746,"text":"第八十九案財政部海文修正、財政部公務署、監管官、辦事系在部分條文、財修委員會間立行匯交司法及法制財政兩委員會,宣讀完畢。五議通過下案。第九十案金融監管理委員會海文修正、金融監管理委員會證券行貨局處規程部分條文、財修委員會間立行匯交司法及法制財政兩委員會,宣讀完畢。五議通過下案。"},{"start":6813.459,"end":6837.048,"text":"第91案 金融監督管理委員會函送公開收購說明書應行記載事項準則第7條條文刊物表財修委員會見你請回交財政委員會 宣讀完畢第92案 金融監督管理委員會還未修正保險代理人公司、保險經紀人公司、分離網路、同保業務及網路保險服務管理辦法第13條條文財修委員會見你請回交財政委員會 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6840.905,"end":6862.41,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第93案金融監督管理委員會海文修正保險商品銷售前程序作業準則部分條文財修委員會見議請會交財修委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第94案金融監督管理委員會海文修正政宣交易法第43條之一第一項取得股份申報辦法財修委員會見議請會交財修委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":6866.431,"end":6889.077,"text":"第九十五案。教育部海文修正分營營利幼兒園實施辦法第十四條、第二十一條及第三十八條條文。財修委員會見李景輝交教育界文化委員會。宣布完畢。議議通過下一案。第九十六案。教育部海文修正公立幼兒園契約金融人員資金融考核及待遇辦法第十三條條文。財修委員會見李景輝交教育界文化委員會。宣布完畢。"},{"start":6889.721,"end":6912.964,"text":"五、一通過下一案。第九十七案。教育部海外修正高級中等學校向學生收取費用辦法部分條文,採修委員會見,以請外交、教育及文化委員會。宣讀完畢。五、一通過下一案。第九十八案。文化部海外修正公有國務管理維護辦法第三條基地事條條文,採修委員會見,以請外交、教育及文化委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6913.732,"end":6915.033,"text":"五一通過下一案。"},{"start":6928.905,"end":6948.901,"text":"無異議通過下案。第100案．文化部財政部橫送．公司或有限合夥事業．投資補償政略重點文化創意產業．投資體檢辦法．及個人投資補償政略重點．文化創意產業．所得而檢出辦法．財政委員會建立緊揮交．究竟文化財政兩位委員會．宣讀完畢。無異議通過下案。"},{"start":6949.349,"end":6967.347,"text":"第101、2海南安全委員會海文行政院原子能委員會科學技術研究發展成果歸屬及運用辦法明確修正委海南安全委員會科學技術研究發展成果歸屬及運用辦法並修正第二條條文全球委員會建議請會教教育及文化委員會宣傳完畢"},{"start":6969.438,"end":6979.738,"text":"第1022韓國安全委員會韓國修正原子能業務公益信通許可及監督辦法第二條條文財修委員會屆例行華僑教育界文化委員會宣傳完畢"},{"start":6980.404,"end":6981.585,"text":"無異通過下一案。"},{"start":6999.81,"end":7029.097,"text":"五一通過下一案。第10四案。國家科學及技術委員會海文修正﹐科學園區設置管理、條例、施行性則第10條條文﹐及科學園區土地租金及費用計收辦法第7條、第8條條文﹐才修委員會見你請回交教育及文化委員會。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。第10五案。國家科學及技術委員會海文修正﹐科學園區設置用地配售及讓售辦法﹐才修委員會見你請回交教育及文化委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":7029.884,"end":7050.385,"text":"無異通過下一案。第106案。秋冬部海灣、秋冬部觀光局、沿江南濱海國家風景區管理處、環遊場域建築事項明確修正為秋冬部觀光署、沿江南濱海國家風景區管理處、環遊場域建築事項並修正第一點規定。財訊委員會見例行會交、秋冬委員會。宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":7050.834,"end":7078.272,"text":"第107案,交通部海委修正車輛行駛安全宣言管理辦法第14條附表,傳輸委員會屆例行會交交通委員會,宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第108案,交通部海委採用國際海事組織所屬海事安全委員會所採單之MSC.475102等三間國際全部使用機體或其他低省點燃料安全中程修正案,傳輸委員會屆例行會交交交通委員會,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":7080.446,"end":7092.873,"text":"第109案．交通部海外財政國際海事組織所屬海事安全委員會所採納之《修改安全系統國際中程及其後續11件修正案》徐修委員會見 請回交交通委員會 宣傳完畢"},{"start":7093.752,"end":7115.178,"text":"無異通過下一案。第11領案。交通部海外財用國際海事組織所屬海事安全委員會所採納水MSC.547107等四件2009年海上移動式專程裝置構造和設備中程修正案。強修委員會見。禮請會交交通委員會。宣讀外幣。無異通過下一案。"},{"start":7115.609,"end":7137.395,"text":"第11、12交通部海外交通部觀光局東部海岸國家風險區管理署所屬景區入園清潔維護費收費標準明確修正為交通部觀光局東部海岸國家風險區管理署所屬景區入園清潔維護費收費標準並修正第三條的文件第二條附表前修研會建立行環交交通委員會宣讀完畢"},{"start":7138.223,"end":7162.863,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第112案。交通部海外修正航空站空測渲水機作業認證法第3條附件4。財修委員會見李景輝交交通委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第113案。交通部海外廢止交通部民用航空局辦事系責等4項法規。財修委員會見李景輝交407法局交通兩委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":7163.376,"end":7190.535,"text":"第1、4案 中東木海灣自然人文生態景觀區專業導覽人員管理辦法明確修正為自然人文生態景觀區專業導覽人員及外語觀光導覽人員管理辦法並修正條文。陳修宇會見,你請回交交通委員會。宣讀完畢。第1、5案 中東木海送國營台灣鐵路股份有限公司分訊機構類型與定位。陳修宇會見,你請回交交通委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":7191.448,"end":7218.613,"text":"報告委員會現有國民黨黨團提議改交審查本案交交通委員會審查有異無異通過下一案。第116案數位發展部海外修正評慮使用費收費標準第二條附件一財修委員會見議請回交交通委員會宣言完畢。報告委員會現有台灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查本案交交通委員會審查有異"},{"start":7220.987,"end":7224.511,"text":"五一通過下案五一通過下案五一通過下案五一通過下案"},{"start":7243.459,"end":7267.978,"text":"五一通過下一案。第1192 司法院函送年前案記錄及有關資料法律配方前書院會見理情匯交司法及法治委員會。宣告完畢。五一通過下一案。第1502 考試院期將於函送經濟部國營訓研委員會現職人員轉任經濟部比照改任官職等級及退服事項配方前書院會見理情匯交司法及法治經濟兩委員會。宣告完畢。"},{"start":7269.875,"end":7271.017,"text":"無異通過下一案。"},{"start":7281.554,"end":7306.501,"text":"第一、二、三案。考試院行為非指專門職業及技術人員普通考試導遊人員考試規則,及專門職業及技術人員普通考試領隊人員考試規則,朝修委員會 宣讀完畢。第一、二、三案。考試院行為修正公務人員高等考試三級考試及普通考試規則第12條條文及第二條附表一、第四條附表三。朝修委員會 宣讀完畢。"},{"start":7309.881,"end":7329.619,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第1、2、4、2法務部和維修生、外遺兼受刑人、反交、採取辦法、採取委員會屆例行會交、司法及法治委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第1、2、5、2法務部和維修生、外遺兼受刑人、領選、實施辦法、採取委員會屆例行會交、司法及法治委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":7330.49,"end":7342.519,"text":"報告院會現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查,本案交司法及法治委員會審查,有異議無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":7352.318,"end":7373.801,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第1、2、7、8案。行政院海外修正許勿展防證基金收支保管及運用辦法部分條文。強修委員會見你請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣言完畢。無異議通過下一案。第1、2、8案。勞動部還送本院制定最低工資法通過附帶決議定向這說明。強修委員會見你請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣言完畢。"},{"start":7374.588,"end":7396.983,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第1、2、9、2勞動部海省本院決定最低工資法通過負擔決議第二項之說明。暢修委員會見議請獲交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣傳完畢。無異議通過下一案。第1、3、0、2勞動部海省本院修正性別平等工作法部分條文通過負擔決議第二項之說明。暢修委員會見議請獲交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣傳完畢。"},{"start":7397.714,"end":7421.565,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第13、2案。勞動部還送本月修正性別平等工作法部份條文通過附帶決議第5項之說明。裁書院會見你請回交社會福利修正環境委員會。宣言完畢。無異議通過下一案。第13、2案。勞動部還送本月修正性別平等工作法部份條文通過附帶決議第10項之說明。裁書院會見你請回交社會福利修正環境委員會。宣言完畢。"},{"start":7422.321,"end":7435.145,"text":"無異議通過下一案。第13增案衛生福利部韓送本院制定社會福利基盤法通過附帶決議第9項之說明。財修委會協議請回交社會福利基盤環境委員會。宣讀完畢。無異議通過報告委員會第134案至290案請依序宣讀其中第238案、239案國民黨黨團提議改交審查"},{"start":7451.55,"end":7453.692,"text":"第134、136、137、138、142、161、162、175、230、237、238、239、247、第277案台灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查宣讀後"},{"start":7472.13,"end":7483.907,"text":"以上提案均交相關委員會審查其餘預案均照程序委員會意見通過請問院會有無異議無異議宣讀後通過請宣讀"},{"start":7486.618,"end":7495.602,"text":"第134案 行政院主席總署第142案 財政部第165案 中央銀行第167案 金融監督管理委員會第190案 文化部第196案 國內國公博物院第125案 中央研究院第129案 交通部第235案 行政院"},{"start":7512.149,"end":7531.95,"text":"公共過程委員會、第二三青案及第二三八案國家運輸安全調查委員會、第二三九案國家通訊傳播委員會、第二四零案及第二四二二案行政院人事行政總署、第二四三案及第二五四案司法院、第二二五案及第二八二案防務部、第二八三案及第二八八案立法院秘書長、"},{"start":7532.771,"end":7556.989,"text":"第二八九案原住民組委員會第二九零案監察院還為一百十三年度中央政府轉送一百十三年度相關預算等預算決議分別解送相關報告宣讀完畢報告委員會第291案以下請一併宣讀宣讀後均准予被查請宣讀"},{"start":7557.694,"end":7586.281,"text":"第291案至第2942委員本院司法及法治、外商及國防、社會福利及外商環境委員會函為約會交付審查處理行政院人事行政總署一百十三年度中央政府總運算決議答案要因審查處理完據。第295案往行政院函送本院前委員陳昭華等所提臨時停案至嚴處情形。諮詢事項將行政院答覆部分、行政院函送本院農委員聚強等所提諮詢之書面答覆共六件。以本院委員諮詢部分"},{"start":7586.841,"end":7609.534,"text":"本院論委員致詳向行政院提出質詢公告件。宣讀完畢。報告委員會在進行討論事項之前先處理變更議程之提議並截止收案現在處理國民黨黨團提議變更議程共一案請議事人員宣讀內容"},{"start":7611.004,"end":7631.937,"text":"本院中國國民黨立法院黨團．針對第11屆第一會期第9次會議．討論事項．請增列如下表．並列為討論事項第一案之第三案．原列討論事項一案．授權議事人員依序遞言．是否有當．請公決。宣讀完畢請問院會對本案有無異議"},{"start":7635.356,"end":7656.521,"text":"無異議本案照案通過我們令議程原討論事項依序遞移。報告委員會便跟議程提議已處理完畢。現在我們處理討論事項第一案本院民進黨黨團針對第11屆第一會期第5次會議報告"},{"start":7663.985,"end":7683.818,"text":"事項第10案．第11案．第108案．院會所作決定提出復議．請公決案本案今第一會期．第6次會議決定．令定期處理．現在進行處理"},{"start":7689.093,"end":7712.094,"text":"報告院會本案並無委員登記發言請問院會針對民進黨黨團所提復議案有無異議有異議我們現在有異議進行表決現在按鈴7分鐘我們開始分發表決卡"},{"start":8153.05,"end":8163.421,"text":"報告院會請問一下是不是每一位都有拿到表決卡都有拿到表決卡現在針對民進黨黨團所提復議案我們進行表決"},{"start":8169.48,"end":8171.002,"text":"現有民進黨黨團、國民黨黨團提議要求記名表決記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":8238.337,"end":8241.397,"text":"是否有當？請公決"},{"start":8304.961,"end":8320.997,"text":"報告院會請保持議長的次序報告院會本案表決結果出席94人贊成47人反對47人"},{"start":8337.326,"end":8358.883,"text":"本案表決的結果可否雙方均未過半數依立法院議事規則第36條規定應該重新表決重新表決時以多數為可決我們再重新表決一次時間一分鐘"},{"start":8367.737,"end":8374.542,"text":"人民的意識最重要。我們支持韓院長。如果待會投票一樣的話,請你支持人民的法案。"},{"start":8403.315,"end":8404.217,"text":"本院國民黨團："},{"start":8423.456,"end":8434.19,"text":"本院國民黨團：第11屆第9次會議"},{"start":8453.294,"end":8476.886,"text":"各位委員表決結果出席95人贊成47人反對48人贊成者少數決議復議案不通過本案報告事項照原作決定通過"},{"start":8478.871,"end":8492.694,"text":"我們現在進入討論事項第二案報言會報言會請肅靜針對討論事項第二案本院民進黨黨團針對第11屆第一會期第6次會議報告"},{"start":8508.47,"end":8535.283,"text":"事項第103案第108案院會所作決定提出復議請公決案本案今第1會期第7次會議決定會定期處理現在進行處理報告院會本案並無委員登記發言請問院會"},{"start":8538.532,"end":8561.959,"text":"對針對民進黨黨團所提復議案有無異議。有異議。我們現在進行表決。現在針對民進黨黨團所提復議案我們進行表決。現有民進黨團、國民黨團要求記名表決。表決開始時間一分鐘。"},{"start":8573.297,"end":8587.947,"text":"民主黨委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":8679.773,"end":8691.023,"text":"報告院會馬文君委員提出權宜要求,他那個卡有問題是吧?大家請保持一場肅靜好不好?"},{"start":8695.619,"end":8712.693,"text":"對,現在有委員提出權宜問題,好吧,大家請肅靜報告院會現在國民黨團提出重複表決我們現在現在出席表決的結果出席93人贊成47人反對46人現在國民黨黨團提出重複表決我們再進行表決時間一分鐘開始"},{"start":8806.854,"end":8811.938,"text":"出席94人、贊成47人、反對47人、棄權0人本案由主席裁決"},{"start":8831.192,"end":8848.948,"text":"本席決定反對復議案不通過本案報告事項照原決定通過現在我們進行第三案討論事項第三案本月民進黨黨團針對第11屆第1會期第7次會議報告"},{"start":8857.443,"end":8864.989,"text":"事項第32案、第33案、第60案、第111案、第118案、第143案院會所作決定"},{"start":8876.65,"end":8895.604,"text":"提出復議請公決案本案今第一會期第8次會議決定令定期處理現在我們進行處理本案並無委員登記發言請問院會針對民進黨黨團所提復議案有無異議有異議進行表決"},{"start":8905.883,"end":8910.446,"text":"現在針對民進黨黨團所提復議案進行表決現有民進黨黨團、國民黨黨團要求進行記名表決記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":8939.582,"end":8940.625,"text":"本院國民黨團．立即停止調漲電價．"},{"start":8968.462,"end":8978.262,"text":"一百一十十年一百一十十年"},{"start":9003.454,"end":9005.635,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":9042.193,"end":9044.914,"text":"是否有當？請公決案等5案。是否有當？請公決案等5案。"},{"start":9061.34,"end":9065.884,"text":"三月審查!三月審查!"},{"start":9081.17,"end":9097.561,"text":"專業審查!專業審查!"},{"start":9108.032,"end":9131.591,"text":"報告院會,剛才馬文君委員特別聲明馬文君委員對於馬文君,請大家保持意識的和諧對剛才的表決,馬文君委員特別聲明與國民黨黨團表決意見一致,列入公報記錄"},{"start":9133.69,"end":9157.599,"text":"現在宣布表決結果出席人數94人贊成者47人反對者47人棄權0人所以本席決定反對副議案不通過本案報告事項照原作決定通過報告議員會"},{"start":9162.386,"end":9170.056,"text":"本日會議進行到此為止4月16日星期二上午9時繼續開會進行後續討論事項現在休息"}]}}],"supported_filter_fields":["term","sessionPeriod","meet_id","legislator","committee_id","date"]}