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那我們看到這一次再度針對我這個提案提出了暫緩那我在這邊再提醒一下我們這邊是程序委員會程序委員會如果今天真的要擋的話他可能是因為連署人數不足修法理由沒有寫等等之類的這些程序事項不然的話就應該按照"},{"start":2604.471,"end":2627.5,"text":"他應該進來一個委員會來開始進入把這個結果提交給院會那很這個難過的事情就是這個案子再度的又在這邊被討論想要在程序做這個檔案那我在這邊先提醒一下我今天其實跟幾位不同黨派的委員其實都有溝通過但是顯然都還是取決於一個人的意志那我在這邊先說明一下"},{"start":2628.62,"end":2654.166,"text":"這個時候這個不管是國民黨民眾黨一直提到說賴瑞隆委員有另外一個提案說跟這個提案可能有衝突我先跟大家說明提案如果有衝突不就是應該要併案然後到委員會去討論嗎對不對怎麼會因為提案有衝突然後就變成要把他程序委員會退回呢國民黨目前有多少個國會改革的法案請問有因為他互相衝突而且衝突的可多了然後就在這邊程序委員會退回嗎"},{"start":2655.006,"end":2679.969,"text":"更不要講說賴瑞榮委員的提案是立法委員的行為法行為法是在歸變立法院裡面的規範這裡面的規範跟外部的規範是一點關係都沒有的在立法院裡面規定要不要性騷跟你在外面有沒有性騷擾防治法兩件事情所以它不止沒有衝突這是一個法學的ABC它是完全不同的法案怎麼會用這個理由呢"},{"start":2680.749,"end":2697.222,"text":"更有甚者還說是因為行政權在侵害立法的這個理由這理由更瞎了立法委員如果報稅去國稅局你會不會說國稅局把手伸到立法院呢他出國要去外交部辦護照你會不會說外交部現在把手伸到立法院呢當然不會嘛"},{"start":2697.822,"end":2721.762,"text":"立法委員並沒有洩密的特權阿他一般的旅遊今天涉及國家機密的時候本來就應該要報備阿更不要講說聯審會本身的運作機制就是長這個樣子阿他只有審查不足的問題因為聯審會裡面大部分的成員還受到立法院的預算監督他壓力還會很大欸然後呢上次我記得陳玉生委員還有提到說阿為什麼第三國這個不用管制"},{"start":2722.763,"end":2744.008,"text":"我的法案裡面明明就有寫去第三股那就表示你們在第一次導我案的時候好像沒有看法條然後就決定在程序的時候就要把這個案子退回所以根據這些都不是成為理由的理由而且都是實質應該進去委員會的理由如果真的覺得這個法案寫得有過不好"},{"start":2744.908,"end":2768.758,"text":"認為我們這個跟一堆法學教授跟律師寫的法案有多爛那為什麼不進去委員會好好的來電我好好的來跟我講說這個到底哪裡出錯我可以做提案說明啊你們可以用質詢的方式來討論可以逐條啊為什麼要在程序的時候就把這個案子退回去這一點理由都沒有我們的連署人數是充足的我們的修法理由也是充足的那我先講到這邊 謝謝"},{"start":2773.346,"end":2775.048,"text":"可以限制去哪裡嗎?"},{"start":2792.097,"end":2810.227,"text":"這個我想這個沈伯陽委員這樣我也不是特別針對沈委員只是說大概沈伯陽委員對程序委員會的這個瞭解有誤會大概也沒有當過地方的民意代表在地方的各縣市的議會的所有的程序委員其實即便是國會也都是一樣所有法案能不能排進去大會裡頭院會裡頭"},{"start":2812.088,"end":2834.992,"text":"就是院會裡頭或是地方的縣市議會的大會裡頭事實上都是要經過程序委員會的審議不是送來程序委員會每個案子就必須一樣這樣子好像程序委員都是像橡皮圖這樣就蓋了就應該讓他過去這個沒有當過地方議員才會有這樣的說法我建議我建議是可能去詢問一下貴黨的相關的各縣市的地方議員瞭解各縣市的程序委員會是怎麼"},{"start":2835.612,"end":2835.712,"text":"主席"},{"start":2849.468,"end":2863.959,"text":"在地方議會你去問一下你去問一下你們民進黨地方議員有很多各縣市都有地方議員你去問一下第二點對因為程序委員不是橡皮圖張第二點提出這樣子真的是我上次就上次就提過了上次就提過這種這種"},{"start":2866.437,"end":2894.275,"text":"這一種提案實在是真的是有失國會議員的高度而且充分的就是違反了我們中華民國憲法中華民國憲法不可以限制人民的遷徙自由所謂遷徙自由包括露出自由這是基本的人權那要用 如果提到泄密 莊委員就提到泄密如果提到泄密 現在泄密需要人到某個地方才能泄密如果意圖泄密 現在如果以你們這種方式說一個人到某個地方就可能泄密"},{"start":2895.296,"end":2917.601,"text":"打電話也可能會泄密阿以後要開始限制百姓打電話嗎用什麼通訊軟體LINE阿什麼也可能泄密以後要開始限制人民用LINE嗎這種不符合比例原則的做法我想還是不要在這裡提出來了齁所以當然我們是不贊成這個沈博洋委員的這個提案的謝謝好來全體問題來所以是不是以後就是我們大家都開放以下可以大聲講話"},{"start":2925.122,"end":2936.513,"text":"這個我們這個按照這個議事規則就是不可以了那如果狀況嚴重這個主席會進行制止主席會進行如果狀況嚴重主席會進行制止那我們都按照議事規則來"},{"start":2938.1,"end":2955.632,"text":"那現在我們這個登記發言完畢我們就按照這個提案先後順序來進行處理那看這個提案的內容有沒有互相抵觸的部分那如果有這個互相抵觸的部分那後面的就不處理了"},{"start":2956.873,"end":2976.866,"text":"我們現在按照這個提案先後順序我們首先先處理林月琴委員的提議是照草案及增列報告事項通過請問大家對這個提案有沒有異議有異議我們進行處理進行表決我們清點在場人數"},{"start":2984.791,"end":3006.959,"text":"在場人數18人現在贊成林業勤委員提議的請舉手現在反對林業勤委員提案的請舉手9位"},{"start":3012.796,"end":3015.818,"text":"反對者10位,林業勤委員的贊成者少數不通過"},{"start":3035.441,"end":3055.409,"text":"那接下來我們就處理葛如君委員的提案葛如君委員提案這個議程草案第82案暫緩列案這個82案是NCC主委提名名單那這個請問對葛如君委員的提議有異議有異議我們進行處理"},{"start":3061.803,"end":3089.861,"text":"我們就進行表決了我們再清點在場人數在場人數18位贊成葛如君委員提案的請舉手9位那反對葛如君委員提案的請舉手8位那我們贊成者多數"},{"start":3091.85,"end":3116.071,"text":"棄權一人,贊成者多數葛珠峻委員提案通過接下來處理林國成委員提議民進黨團增列第22案暫緩列案就是剛才談的沈博洋委員這個案子剛剛他有說明,他提案國民黨提案"},{"start":3118.237,"end":3146.416,"text":"他剛才提案的時候有做提案說明他沒有就內容說明他提案就是國民黨所提案的是NCC主委的案子反列NCC主委的案子民眾黨提案的是什麼國安委員的案子陳委員的說明是在講林國昌委員的案子對沒有錯"},{"start":3148.319,"end":3160.209,"text":"好 這個我們就繼續處理了 繼續進行這個林國成委員提議民進黨團增列第22案暫緩列案請問對林國成委員提議有異議有異議 有異議我們進行表決請清點在場人數在場人數18人贊成林國成委員提議的請舉手在場者10位"},{"start":3179.204,"end":3191.808,"text":"再呈贊成者10位反對林國成委員提案的請舉手反對者8位,贊成者多數通過這個請議事委員確認一下喔點錯了齁"},{"start":3210.611,"end":3229.959,"text":"我們是不是徵求大家的意見我們重新表決好不好我們重新表決我們再重新清點一次人數18人那贊成林國成委員提案的請舉手"},{"start":3235.845,"end":3239.226,"text":"好,贊成者10位那反對林國誠委員提案的請舉手好,反對者8位我們重新表決結果還是贊成者多數,通過那我們這個這3個案子這個表決結果齁我們其餘的案子我們就照草案及增列報告事項通過了齁除了這個緩列的這2案"},{"start":3264.093,"end":3275.13,"text":"那我們報告事項就修正通過接下來我們質詢事項也通過了報告事項跟質詢事項通過接下來我們請宣讀討論事項"},{"start":3279.062,"end":3304.027,"text":"1.403 政災重建條例草案2.環島高速鐵路建設特別條例草案3.花東快速公路建設特別條例草案4.國大6號東原花蓮建設特別條例草案5.本院臺灣民眾黨黨團建請委員會作成決議 邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長求1.如何改善跨部會的食品源系統登載率極低的問題2.如何有效解決近期系統性食安問題 進行專案報告並備諮詢請公決案"},{"start":3307.928,"end":3332.863,"text":"6.本院民進黨黨團建起委員會作成決議1.中國大陸及香港政府今年陸續擬定逃犯及刑事事宜相互法律協助法例通過香港特別行政區維護國家安全法維護國家安全條例對港人之迫害恐變本加厲前置人民思想抬安民主自由對中國大陸及香港政府屢屢假借國安之民侵犯"},{"start":3333.543,"end":3355.926,"text":"民主人權之行徑本院予以最嚴厲譴責二中國大陸及香港政府應即刻廢除相關侵害人權之法令並釋放所有正確犯重新建立具有透明度相正度及問責性的法制才有可能使港人及世界各國創始對香港的信心三本院要求大陸委員會持續關注香港局勢發展"},{"start":3356.987,"end":3381.889,"text":"對於追求香港民主自由受到迫害的香港人依法應給予必要之協助以具體的行動給予香港人民支持關懷與協助並承諾在香港人權情形改善前不會停滯請公決案7至8院會通過與刪除宣讀完畢9 原住民保留地禁放補償條例"},{"start":3384.791,"end":3409.144,"text":"10.本院國民黨黨團進行委員會作決議為確保總統對全民負責之憲政機制本院於新任行政院長施政方針報告前依立法院職權新法第15條之二規定邀請賴清德總統至立法院就職權相關之國家大政方針進行國情報告是否有讓請公決案11.大陸交通管理處罰條例修正草案宣讀完畢"},{"start":3411.889,"end":3415.792,"text":"好我們現在請登記委員發言首先第一位請林委員願請發言而針對第11屆第1次會期第13次會議議程討論事項建請針列下表所列議案是否有當進行公決那提案內容請議事人員待會宣讀"},{"start":3441.035,"end":3467.435,"text":"好,我們現在請議事委員代為宣讀本院民主進步黨立法院黨團針對第11屆第1會期第13次會議議程討論事項,見請針列下表所列議案是否有當敬請公決一,中華民國113年度將政府總預算按附屬單位預算營業及非營業部分審查總報告案宣讀完畢"},{"start":3470.046,"end":3472.912,"text":"好接下來請登記第二位閣委員如君發言"},{"start":3487.298,"end":3512.234,"text":"案由本院中國國民黨立法院黨團針對第11屆第一會期第13次院會議程討論事項擬僅限列如下表內容授權議事人員宣讀是否有當敬請公決提案人中國國民黨立法院黨團好我們現在請議事人員待會宣讀"},{"start":3513.39,"end":3523.264,"text":"本院中國國民黨立法院黨團針對第11屆第1會期第13次院會議程討論事項擬僅限列如下表是否有當敬請公決"},{"start":3525.349,"end":3548.88,"text":"1.本院國民黨黨團建請院會作成決議為確保總統對全民負責之憲政機制本院於新院行政院院長施政方針報告前1.立法院職權行使法第15條之二規定邀請賴清德總統至立法院就職權相關之國家大政方針進行國情報告請供決案2.台灣民眾黨黨團邀請賴清德總統至立院國情報告案"},{"start":3550.401,"end":3577.637,"text":"3.403 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法中有關申報內容、申報期限之規定或申報不實。"},{"start":2079.52,"end":2102.726,"text":"第三十一條,工廠有效率情形之一者﹐主管機關應令其限期改善補辦或申報﹐藉其為改善補辦或申報者﹐處工廠負責人新台幣1萬元以上5萬元相發還﹐能不遵行者得按次處罰﹐一、利用其廠地或建築物之一部或全部從事物品製造、加工以外業務﹐"},{"start":2103.846,"end":2128.434,"text":"但從事與所製造產品相關事業務者不再次限。二、違反第16條第三項規定．變更產業類別為重新辦理工廠設立許可或登記．而從事物品之製造加工。三、違反議定17條第一項第一款規定所附加之負擔。四、違反議定17條第一項第三款．"},{"start":2128.974,"end":2155.111,"text":"公告之減量生產或停止生產規定。五、違反第18條第一項規定為申報或提供有關資料或規避妨礙拒絕調查。六、違反第18條第三項規定為依期限提出申報或規避妨礙拒絕調查。其違反第23條第一項規定為按月申報其原料儲存料。八、違反一第23條第三"},{"start":2157.452,"end":2181.13,"text":"八、違反議題23條第二項所定辦法中有關申報內容之規定。第39條本法自公佈日施行本法中華民國108年7月24日修正公佈之條文及113年5月7日修正之條文其施行日期由行政院定之。宣讀完畢"},{"start":2183.274,"end":2210.192,"text":"報告院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢,請問院會有無文字修正?沒有文字修正,我們決議工廠管理輔導法增訂第28條之14條條文,並將第31條及第39條條文修正通過。本案完成立法程序後,有委員登記發言。第一位,我們請黃婕委員發言。"},{"start":2226.104,"end":2249.63,"text":"好謝謝主席謝謝各位同仁今天這個功夫法可以修正通過我是蠻肯定也蠻感動的因為其實雖然過去工廠的大火不斷的發生那讓我國其實失去非常多位消防員都讓我非常的沉痛也非常的難過尤其是去年這個綿陽大火有四位消防員殉職"},{"start":2251.07,"end":2273.289,"text":"是不可承受之重。所以這一次公服法的修法重點有兩個,其實都是針對民洋大火。第一個是危險物品的申報,如果沒有在申報期限內申報,或者是申報不實,必須要加重他的罰款的金額,從一到五萬調整為五到五百萬。第二個是這一次我認為是最重要的,就是這些危險物品的申報的規範,"},{"start":2274.75,"end":2300.722,"text":"沒有再讓他獻起改善的機會了：如果抓到就必須要開罰：不能再姑息這些違規的工廠：所以落實工廠的管理以及危險物品的申報：是保障公共安全的基礎：去年綿陽大火之所以會有如此嚴重的傷亡：就是因為綿陽的公司在他的廠房內囤積了超過管制量30倍的危險物品：這個我現在想起來還是餘悸猶存喔："},{"start":2302.463,"end":2323.394,"text":"沒有辦法如實申報導致消防員無法事先預判救災的風險然後及時的調整救災的計畫讓他們必須要硬著頭皮進到這麼危險的火場裡面所以這次的修法不只是加強工廠必須要對自身公安他自己要有管理的責任也是落實最重要的資訊權"},{"start":2325.015,"end":2344.543,"text":"讓消防員不用在狀況不明的情境下可以要進到火場那我也希望我們一刻都不能懈怠雖然這只是第一步未來我們要謹記過去慘痛的經驗來落實工廠的管理方方面面不再讓消防員隕落希望我們一起為消防員來守護我們的家園謝謝謝謝黃婕委員的發言接下來我們請登記第二位張其凱委員發言"},{"start":2377.232,"end":2390.176,"text":"今天公祭明天旺祭是很多消防員的心聲也是他們心裡最大的痛特別是最近幾年很多工廠發生大火"},{"start":2391.36,"end":2419.381,"text":"市場非常嚴重不只是消防員很多員工寶貴的生命所以臺灣民眾黨這次提出了修正版本明確的提高了法則希望落實所有的工廠你放了危險物品一定要明確的申報到消防員抵達現場之前很清楚的知道裡面的有危險物品而且放在什麼地方"},{"start":2420.199,"end":2440.128,"text":"很高興透過臺灣民眾黨的努力還有朝野的努力包括行政院這次也從善如流提出了修正的版本今天終於把法則提高了另外臺灣民眾黨的版本有另外一個非常重要的就是定期申報"},{"start":2442.005,"end":2467.098,"text":"台灣民眾黨很明確要求每個月工廠只要你的工廠裡面有任何的危險物品必須定期每個月如期申報這個在委員會審查的時候行政部門一直在講說他們的精神已經做到了可是台灣民眾黨齊凱代表台灣民眾黨非常明確要求每個月申報有危險物品"},{"start":2468.089,"end":2479.09,"text":"不能夠打折所以經過臺灣民眾黨跟齊凱的力爭之後在行政院明確的表達他們在訂執法的時候會很明確的列進去"},{"start":2480.219,"end":2499.523,"text":"每個月工廠你只要是有危險物品每個月都必須要定期申報沒有的話就是扣到前面的你的罰則一定會增加所以今天非常謝謝我們今天完成了三讀我們保障了消防員的生命守護了幫我們救活也守護我們人民的消防員的生命"},{"start":2511.311,"end":2525.918,"text":"謝謝張祺凱委員的發言。報告院會登記發言委員均已發言完畢。現在我們進行討論事項第8案,國際法部分條文修正草案。請宣讀審查報告。"},{"start":2527.711,"end":2544.276,"text":"委員內政委員會於113年4月24日召開決定委員會議審查本案。由吳兆琦委員起名擔任主席,除邀請提案委員說明提案要旨,並邀請相關機關列席報告並備諮詢。經報告及詢談完畢,選期進行逐條審查。與會委員聽取說明並經準密討論後,將全案並按審查完畢。"},{"start":2552.438,"end":2557.963,"text":"本案並按審查完略領據審查報告提報約會討論。約會討論前不須經黨團協商：並推起吳召集委員齊銘與約會討論時做補充說明。宣讀完畢。請召集委員吳齊銘委員補充說明。吳補充說明。報告院會本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商。請問院會有無異議。"},{"start":2583.82,"end":2587.085,"text":"沒有意義本案進一審查會意見處理現在我們進行逐條討論國際法第二條為此現行條文請宣讀第四條"},{"start":2597.932,"end":2617.83,"text":"第四條,外國人或無國籍人,現於中華民國領域內有住所﹐具備前條第一項第二款式第五款要件﹐於中華民國領域內﹐每年合計有183日以上﹐合法據料之適時繼續3日以上﹐並有下列各款期刑之一者﹐已得申請規劃﹐"},{"start":2618.911,"end":2635.845,"text":"一、為中華民國國民之配偶,不需符合前條第一項第四款。二、為中華民國國民配偶,因受家庭暴力離婚且未再婚,或其配偶死亡後未再婚,且有事實足證與其頑固配偶之親屬仍有往來。"},{"start":2636.625,"end":2660.451,"text":"但與其頑固配偶婚姻關係已存續二年以上者﹐不受與親屬人有往來之限制﹐三、對無行為能力或限制行為能力之中華民國國籍子女﹐有撫養事實、行使負擔、權利義務或會面交往﹐四、夫或母現為或曾為中華民國國民﹐五、為中華民國國民之養子女﹐"},{"start":2660.971,"end":2682.341,"text":"六、出生於中華民國領域內．為中華民國國民之監務人或輔助人．未婚且未滿18歲之外國人或無國籍人．有項鍊前行之一者．在中華民國領域內合法拘留．未滿三年且未具備簽條第一項．第二款．第四款．第五款要件一條申請規劃．"},{"start":2683.502,"end":2701.248,"text":"一、父母養父或養母現為中華民國國民。二、現由社會福利主管機關或社會福利機構監護。宣讀完畢。報告院會第四條,照審查會條文通過。請宣讀第五條。"},{"start":2702.298,"end":2724.105,"text":"第五條,外國人或無國籍人身於中華民國領域內有住所,具備第三條,第一項,第二款之第五款要件,並具有下列各款其行之一者,亦得申請規劃。一、出生於中華民國領域內,其父或母亦出生於中華民國領域內。二、曾在中華民國領域內合法拘留繼續10年以上。"},{"start":2725.766,"end":2749.648,"text":"三、由中央目的事業主管機關推薦職工及專業人才有助中華民國利益,並經內政部邀請社會公正人士及相關機關共同審核通過。且於中華民國領域內,每年合計有183日以上合法居留之事時繼續2年以上,或曾在中華民國領域內合法居留繼續5年以上。"},{"start":2750.468,"end":2767.839,"text":"請向第三環鎖定勾集專業人材之認定要件﹐審核程序、方法及其他相關事項之標準由內政部定之。 宣讀完畢。報告院會第五條照審查會條文通過請宣讀第六條"},{"start":2768.803,"end":2793.599,"text":"第六條,外國人或無國籍人有書勳與中華民國者,雖不具備第三條第一項各款要件,亦得申請規劃。內政部為前項規劃之許可應經行政院核准。依第一項規定申請規劃者,免徵國籍許可證書規費。宣讀完畢。報告委員會第六條,照審查會條文通過。"},{"start":2795.014,"end":2811.943,"text":"委員羅美玲等．委員陳培宇等．分別提案第6條之一．均不予增訂。請宣讀第7條。第7條規劃人之未婚且未滿18歲子女．得申請隨同規劃。宣讀完畢。第7條照審查會條文通過。請宣讀第9條。"},{"start":2820.031,"end":2845.209,"text":"第九條,外國人申請規劃應與許可規劃之日起﹐會因原屬國法令需滿一定年齡﹐使得喪失原有國籍者自滿一定年齡之日起﹐一年內提出喪失原有國籍證明。借其為提出者,除盡外交部查證﹐因原屬國法律或行政程序限制處時﹐致使不能於期限內提出喪失國籍證明者﹐"},{"start":2845.909,"end":2846.069,"text":"宣讀完畢。"},{"start":2876.671,"end":2881.799,"text":"報告院會,第9條照審查會條文通過,第19條維持現行條文,請宣讀第20條。"},{"start":2887.881,"end":2911.136,"text":"第二十條,中華民國國民取得外國國籍者﹐不得擔任中華民國公職﹐僅已擔任者﹐除立法委員由立法院﹐直銷市縣市﹐直銷市山地原住民區﹐鄉鎮市民選公職人員﹐分別由行政院內政部﹐直銷市政府﹐縣政府﹐村里長由鄉鎮市區公所解除其公職外﹐"},{"start":2911.676,"end":2925.946,"text":"由各單機關免除其公職：但下列各管經該管主管機關和捐贈者不再此限：一、公立大學校長、公立各級學校教師兼任行政主管人員與研究機關構首長、副首長"},{"start":2927.327,"end":2941.963,"text":"研究人員和兼任學術研究主管人員及經各級主管教育行政或文化機關核准設立之社會教育或文化機構首長、副首長、憑證之專業人員和兼任主管人員。"},{"start":2942.964,"end":2964.859,"text":"二、公營事業中對經營政策附有主要決策責任以外之人員。三、各機關專師技術研究設計工作而引契約定期聘用之非主管職務。四、強務主管機關依組織法聆聘僅供諮詢之無己職委員。五、其他法律另有規定者。"},{"start":2965.519,"end":2981.636,"text":"且向第一管制第三管制委員．以具有專長或特殊技能．而在我國不易秘德之人才．且不涉及國家機密之職務者為限．第一項職工職．不包括工內各級學校．未兼任行政主管之教師、長座．"},{"start":2982.757,"end":3006.004,"text":"：研究人員：專業技術人員：中華民國國民監具外國國籍者：擬任本條所定應受國籍限制之公職時：應於就到職前辦理放棄外國國籍：並於就到職之日起一年內：完成喪失該國國籍及取得證明文件：但其他法律另有規定者從其規定。宣讀完畢"},{"start":3008.476,"end":3016.26,"text":"報告院會第20條照審查會條文通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們請宣讀經過二讀之條文"},{"start":3029.178,"end":3058.488,"text":"第四條,外國人或無國籍人現於中華民國領域內有住所,具備前條第一項第二款至第五款要件。於中華民國領域內,每年合計有183日以上,合法居留之事實繼續三年以上,並有下列各款進行追整亦得申請規劃。一、為中華民國國民支配偶,不需符合前條第一項第四款。二、為中華民國國民配偶,"},{"start":3060.427,"end":3087.979,"text":"因受江寧暴力離婚且未再婚或其配偶死亡後未再婚且有事實族人與其頑固配偶之親屬仍有往來但與其頑固配偶婚姻關係已存續二年以上者不受與親屬仍有往來之限制三、對無行為能力或限制行為能力之中華民國國籍子女有撫養事實、行使負擔權利義務或會面交往"},{"start":3088.639,"end":3115.963,"text":"四、父或母現為或曾為中華民國國民．五、為中華民國國民之養子女．六、出生於中華民國領域內．七、為中華民國國民之監護人或輔助人．未婚前未滿18歲之外國人或無國籍人．有下列前行之一者．在中華民國領域內合法拘留．雖未滿3年前未具備簽條第一項、第二款、第四款．"},{"start":3116.523,"end":3127.077,"text":"及第五款要件亦得申請規劃。一、父母養父或養母現為中華民國國民。二、現由社會福利主管機關或社會福利機構監護。"},{"start":3130.461,"end":3157.038,"text":"第五條,外國人或無國籍人,現於中華民國領域內有住所,具備第三條,第一項,第二款至第五款要件,並具有下列各款情形之一者,亦得申請規劃。一、出生於中華民國領域內,其父或母亦出生於中華民國領域內。二、曾在中華民國領域內合法居留繼續10年以上。三、由中央目的事業主管機關。"},{"start":3158.419,"end":3179.668,"text":"推薦之高級專業人才﹐有助中華民國利益﹐並經內政部邀請社會公正人士﹐及相關機關共同審核通過﹐其於中華民國領域內﹐每年合計有183日以上﹐合法居留真實時繼續2年以上﹐或曾在中華民國領域內合法居留繼續5年以上﹐"},{"start":3180.809,"end":3189.303,"text":"請將第三環鎖定高級專業人才之認定要件﹐手法程序、方法及其他相關事項之標準由內政部定之。"},{"start":3191.383,"end":3218.719,"text":"第六條,外國人或無國籍人有書薰與中華民國者,雖不具備第三條第一項各款要件,亦得申請規劃。內政部為前項規劃之許可應經行政院核准。依第一項規定申請規劃者,免徵國籍許可證書規費。第七條,規劃人之未婚前未滿18歲子女,得申請隨同規劃。"},{"start":3222.216,"end":3247.848,"text":"第九條,外國人申請規劃,因與許可規劃之日起﹐或因原屬國法令需滿一定年齡﹐使得喪失原有國籍者﹐自滿一定年齡之日起﹐一年內提出喪失原有國籍證明。藉其為提出者﹐除今外就部朝鎮因原屬國法律或行政程序限制處時﹐致使不能於期限內提出喪失國籍證明者﹐"},{"start":3248.408,"end":3277.968,"text":"等申請者原時限外應撤銷其規劃許可。為因前二項規定提出喪失原有國籍證明前,應不予許可其定居。為為人符合下令請請之一者,免提出喪失原有國籍證明。一、依第五條第1項第3款規定申請規劃。二、依第6條第1項規定申請規劃。三、因非可規則與當事人之事由,卻無法取得喪失原有國籍證明。"},{"start":3280.73,"end":3301.127,"text":"第二十條中華民國國民取得外國國籍者﹐不得擔任中華民國公職﹐其已擔任者﹐處立法委由立法院﹐直銷室縣市﹐直銷室山地原住民區﹐鄉鎮市民選公職人員﹐分別由行政院﹐內政部﹐直銷室政府﹐縣政府"},{"start":3302.208,"end":3330.113,"text":"村里長由鄉鎮市區公所撤出其公職外﹐由各該機關免除其公職﹐但下列各款經該管主管機關核准者不在此限﹐一、公立大學校長﹐公立各級學校教師經任行政主管人員﹐與研究機關構首長副首長﹐研究人員﹐含經任學術研究主管人員﹐即經各級主管教育行政﹐或文化機關核准設立之社會教育﹐"},{"start":3331.853,"end":3351.458,"text":"或文化機構首長、副首長、聘任之專業人員和兼任主管人員。二、公營事業中對經營政策附有主要決策責任以外之人員。三、各機關專司技術研究設計工作而以契約定期聘用之非主管職務。"},{"start":3352.538,"end":3370.765,"text":"四、常務主管機關依組織可聆聘、僅供諮詢之無期職委員．五、其他法律另有規定者．傾向第一款至第三款人員．已具有專長或特殊技能．而在我國不易滅絕人才．且不涉及國家機密之職務者違憲．"},{"start":3372.125,"end":3401.532,"text":"第一項職工職：不包括公立各級學校：外遷任行政主管之教師講座：研究人員專業技術人員：中華民國國民兼具外國國籍者：擬任本條所定應受國籍限職之公職時：應於就到職前辦理放棄外國國籍：並於就到職之日期一年內：完全喪失該國國籍及取得證明文件：但其他法律另有規定者從其規定"},{"start":3404.031,"end":3419.02,"text":"宣讀完畢委員會三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正無文字修正我們決議國際法第4條至第7條第9條及第20條條文修正通過"},{"start":3428.066,"end":3435.461,"text":"報告委員會現有我們委員同仁登記發言每人發言兩分鐘第一位我們請黃婕委員發言"},{"start":3452.042,"end":3466.41,"text":"好謝謝主席謝謝各位同仁這國際法其實在我們內政委員會有經過非常詳細的討論那也感謝也感謝內政部最後有採納我們諸多委員的建議那這一次的國際法修正重點有兩個"},{"start":3467.77,"end":3489.965,"text":"一個是要吸引優秀的外籍人士來臺那其實在2016年已經有收過一次了就是高專人才就可以作為規劃的資格那這一次的修法我們又更進一步把過去現行是三年要拘留183天以上現在放寬到兩年就可以來申請規劃那這樣的條文通過之後其實最"},{"start":3490.825,"end":3491.045,"text":"臨時提案"},{"start":3505.742,"end":3529.43,"text":"那第二個是處理黑戶寶寶的部分因為目前對於在出生在國外然後父不祥但是母親行蹤不明的這樣的孩子經程序認定他是無國籍人士之後現在我們放寬由社政機關的監護人就可以代為申請規劃不需要等到他成年以後也就是說對於這一些無國籍人士的孩子"},{"start":3529.91,"end":3544.351,"text":"我們可以第一時間給他充分的保障並且給予人道的協助來保障這些孩子兒少的權益那也證實台灣確實是亞洲人權保障非常非常前進的一個國家"},{"start":3544.932,"end":3565.695,"text":"那當然我還是要再次提醒因為我在質詢的時候還是有提醒內政部因為現在出生在我國俗稱這些黑戶寶寶的孩子如果他取得規劃的資格他的條件就是要父母不詳或是行蹤不明為要件那我還是希望內政部可以再思考再放寬這些規劃的資格避免增加"},{"start":3566.696,"end":3568.577,"text":"謝謝黃婕委員的發言接下來我們請登記第二位羅美玲委員發言"},{"start":3602.672,"end":3619.977,"text":"謝謝主席各位同仁大家早安那這次呢國籍法三讀通過呢有重大的意義代表著臺灣針對保障兒少權益以及吸納國際特殊專業人才更往前的邁進了一大步那過往的依據移民署統計在2024年1月底"},{"start":3622.178,"end":3636.939,"text":"非本國新生兒通報有16869人．經比對資料其中生母為失聯移工或不實身份者有754人．本席一直以來致力於非本國籍無孕兒少的"},{"start":3637.199,"end":3637.719,"text":"另外國籍法第五條的修法第一項第三款"},{"start":3663.757,"end":3690.829,"text":"也就是本席所提的第6條之一是攸關外國專業人才的規劃世界許多國家近年來目前都面臨少子化缺工以及搶奪專業人才的壓力尤其在體育或許多特殊專業領域許多國家積極尋找規劃人才以充實戰力因此為吸引外國專業人才留台本席也在上一屆提案修正降低外國專業人才規劃臺灣籍的門檻"},{"start":3693.89,"end":3722.607,"text":"並提升外專人才留台誘因。今天非常感動經過本席與許多關心相關議題的立院同仁連續兩屆努力推動今年政院也提出相關修法的版本最終達成朝野共識並於今天三讀通過修正國籍法本席希望這次的修法能讓原本非本國籍無一而少早日得到該有的權益和保障使其有更健全的成長環境"},{"start":3723.387,"end":3725.508,"text":"謝謝羅美玲委員的發言接下來我們請登記第三號麥玉珍委員發言"},{"start":3755.867,"end":3784.137,"text":"謝謝主席我們終於迎來了國籍法三讀我想這段時間以來作為一個新住民立法委員我們都為了邁向族群融合多元共榮臺灣而努力及奮鬥雖然這次修法未完全採納我們的建議將規劃年齡限制調回20歲但是我們努力並非徒勞因為我們的心中永遠與新住民在一起"},{"start":3785.138,"end":3806.619,"text":"臺灣是高度新住民的社會,移民的社會。新住民已經在這個土地上不可缺的一環。我們為了夢想,為了生活離開了家鄉,來到這個土地熟悉又陌生的土地。然而我們面臨所困難,往往是被人們忽略,就像黑狐寶寶這樣的議題。"},{"start":3809.001,"end":3836.927,"text":"這不僅僅是一個個案而是一個更大社會問題需要大家共同努力去解決我們承諾無論未來法案跟政策如何制定我們都不會忘記還有一群新住民的子女還留在國外無法歸國任主歸宗我們還要更努力為了台灣的人民發聲我們會站在人民的立場"},{"start":3838.227,"end":3866.483,"text":"會全力解決大家所面的問題大家在這土地上感受到溫暖與包容我們都是人民的希望躺著責任和義務來到這裡我們一步一步的實現大家的夢想我相信臺灣的未來更好我們一起為臺灣的未來發展而努力奮鬥臺灣加油新住民加油謝謝大家"},{"start":3872.887,"end":3876.85,"text":"謝謝麥玉珍委員的發言。接下來我們請登記第4號莊瑞雄委員發言。"},{"start":3885.96,"end":3907.634,"text":"謝謝主席,我們在場的委員還有媒體朋友,終於我們臺灣的籃球球迷因期盼的球員規劃政策在我們今天完成了國際法的一個三讀。這個整個國際法對於各項規劃的一個規範,上一次的一個修法是在105年,快10年沒有修法了。"},{"start":3908.414,"end":3936.572,"text":"本席一直致力於整個體育運動事務的一個推動我們從111年我們跟不同黨派的委員我們也一起呼籲整個國際法的一個修法在體育界尤其是國家代表隊經常會碰到的問題就是說你找不到合適的一個規劃球員雖然我們已經放寬了書薰規劃不需要去放棄原國籍但是整個書薰規劃它的門檻還是非常的一個高不易申請"},{"start":3937.672,"end":3961.866,"text":"若要走高專的一個規劃在體育界球員又將來來去去現行的合法的一個居留年限也不合於現狀以至於我國體育界我們國家代表隊的戰力提升有限更使我們目前的規劃球員必須無戰不渝容易折損及運動的一個生涯比如說這個第一位的規劃球員戴維斯及第二位規劃球員阿提諾"},{"start":3963.817,"end":3987.612,"text":"那鑑於當今國際都是為了促進各項產業的一個發展,致力於去延攬各國人才的一個申請規劃,來相助整個人才的一個引進。為了使我國能夠加強去延攬優秀的人才,本期提案,那整個國際法部門的一個修法修正草案,就其申請規劃放寬居留一個年限,這個部分我們也非常感謝今天"},{"start":3988.112,"end":3988.252,"text":"﹚發言委員﹚"},{"start":4015.141,"end":4025.992,"text":"謝謝莊瑞雄委員的發言。報告委員會本次會議一層所列討論事項均已處理完畢。我們等臨時提案登記截止後上午10點繼續開會。現在休息。"},{"start":5398.877,"end":5411.015,"text":"報言會現在繼續開會。由於本次會議未有委員提出臨時提案,就不進行臨時提案之處理。本次會議到此為止,現在散會。"}]}},{"id":"152237","url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152237","video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a68d773a4767b5bc7cd08b2608815f2165af86ed9d9203df31dedd6677c47737077d9df624e048115ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"莊瑞雄","委員發言時間":"09:34:58 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