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變成警察殺人這邏輯我們也要把它澄清掉"},{"start":2671.24,"end":2688.196,"text":"從這個角度立場來看我是真的早上有在跟韓院長講韓院長說他會來主持但是這個必須要各黨來談嘛我們來談的時候後來大家談得很清楚說大家不用怕"},{"start":2690.459,"end":2713.715,"text":"這個協商只有流程而已講透了以後今天就處理掉嘛不會說故意要拖延嘛本來我是建議說那第四案村里長那個先調開來我們就往第四案走然後專心來協商不管怎麼樣都是今天必須完成的"},{"start":2714.355,"end":2731.501,"text":"所以今天這個地方有這個程序我先感謝終於立法院看到了一個正常的立法院接下來我要談就是這個本案的看法我們都知道權益分立原則嘛這是憲法所規定的憲法有三條"},{"start":2733.261,"end":2750.458,"text":"我這條行政院是國家最高行政機關嘛先往六三條兩立法院在一結一三條法律案嘛所以所以一三篇內包括一三篇內在先往八條一三篇內畢竟行政院院會通過有送立法院來"},{"start":2751.599,"end":2776.546,"text":"現在我講什麼 什麼時候要送立法院來 年度結束前三個月 所以現在差不多該算要送進來了這是一個國家潛力分立原則 所以並沒有所謂這一串前事由立法委員來主導的否則的話 行政責任無法歸屬 也破壞了生命體制與潛力分立原則"},{"start":2777.717,"end":2780.786,"text":"那我講這個就是說黑話七嘴兩話說"},{"start":2782.321,"end":2808.224,"text":"又來審查議事法案只能用作增加的那我八五四字也講得很清楚權益分立那二六四也講得很清楚那這裡面有四三九一四字請大家看清楚三九三也講得很清楚就是說議事法案總書不變但是移動都不可以"},{"start":2809.165,"end":2824.771,"text":"那最清楚的大關是391號四字391號四字講什麼呢所有的我把它講出來假如預算他也講說前面預算有397條等等預算是屬於行政前的部分"},{"start":2826.151,"end":2855.151,"text":"你做任何更動的時候要涉及計劃內容的變更與調整導致政策的成敗無所歸屬責任制度難以建立有違行政與立法權的分立為了憲法所不席格所以假如像這樣的一個對於預算增加只能當作一種建議案行政院當然等於牽扯他自己要依憲法的形式"},{"start":2856.011,"end":2871.317,"text":"所以今天我們這個案子因為條例拿出來以後然後行政院必須要吞下去傷案變六萬當然這個東西我們就值得討論那在這個討論當中等一下會請行政部門、報告主席處、報告總統因為相關的預算在經濟部也有經濟部騙的是一個"},{"start":2883.564,"end":2901.002,"text":"趙雲獎勵,水銀水質保護區趙雲獎勵,他已經有辦法,他已經有辦法處理這個所謂,如果有三條預算,一個是農,一個是園民會的進口補償然後農業部也有獎勵方法,農業部也有獎勵方法,所以我們要平行的看待"},{"start":2902.083,"end":2929.689,"text":"那兩個部門是用辦法來處理現行辦法到底怎麼樣那現在我們要用法去強制的時候那等一下行政部門他自己會講尤其是經濟政策現在經營了一百七年才一百一十三億明年一百二十五他必須承擔很多法定的預算當然這個法定預算當然人數會與外的法定預算這法定預算很多包金包補助等等"},{"start":2930.808,"end":2955.716,"text":"剩下以後只要變成六萬的時候剩下的只有百分之十那百分之十要做很多事情要長照、嚴重檢疫服務條例、要買土地回來、到處整修等等我想等嚴重委員會及各部會大家談一談、大家冷靜來聽聽所以針對本案我們應該如何處理由待大家朝夕相共同來決定"},{"start":2958.052,"end":2958.072,"text":"紅蘇議長發言"},{"start":2969.481,"end":2980.548,"text":"感謝院長今天召開這個協商其實說實在話我想我們每個人在我們的桌上都有看到立法院黨團協商結論在5月2號其實在紅樓202會議室就已經有召開協商而這個協商如果說"},{"start":2988.257,"end":3007.396,"text":"我們看到下面所有簽名的委員是各黨團都有簽名共同贊成結論均照委員會審查結果同意不管是鄭天才委員、武力華委員、陳寅委員、張其凱委員我們所有各黨團的委員都在這上面有簽字了"},{"start":3008.257,"end":3027.669,"text":"那如果說這樣的話我不清楚說今天剛剛民進黨黨團柯總召剛剛一席話又花了13分鐘的時間講這個話其實也都沒有針對今天院長召開協商來去做這個實質的討論我們先這個必須要先釐清因為說實在話柯總召"},{"start":3028.61,"end":3048.721,"text":"林剛還是把過去的這些歷史都講了一遍可是我們不知道說您的態度到底是什麼是民進黨團現在要推翻這個結論不支持這個結論還是有這個相關委員的這個意見不一致我想這個民進黨團應該也要很務實的跟國人來說明清楚嘛"},{"start":3049.381,"end":3053.104,"text":"法務部門的意見他也特別我特別去看了一下"},{"start":3072.859,"end":3091.921,"text":"法務部書面報告草案規範原住民保留地禁法補償申請禁法申請範圍以及補償金額調整攸關原住民族權益保障事關主管機關跟大院的權責決定本部競表尊重"},{"start":3092.862,"end":3108.411,"text":"換言之法務部門他就直接他的書面清楚明白在討論三十二頁就已經講了事關主管機關跟大院的權責及決定本部定競表遵守所以換言之立法院當然有權能夠來去做"},{"start":3109.992,"end":3110.152,"text":"討論：處理：決定"},{"start":3130.689,"end":3159.764,"text":"我們再一次釐清上個禮拜五我們就已經確定這個禮拜二的五個討論事項包括國民黨團很負責任的把再生醫療跟再生醫療製劑條例給排在第一案第二案而第三案也是我們所有原住民的委員共同關心關注從2015年爭取一直到現在當初2015年通過之後一直到現在十年內我們希望能夠追求所謂的原民正義所以排在第三案第四案是村里長跟地方民意代表"},{"start":3160.714,"end":3186.989,"text":"第五案是我們的這個紀律委員會的一個譴責案我們都已經在上禮拜五早上十點半左右就確定今天的議程如果說真的各黨團有任何意見的話當然應該在上禮拜五十點半之後就可以拜託院長再來召集協商但是剛剛柯總召自己也講了是什麼時候民進黨團才送出拜託院長協商是在禮拜一昨天才送出協商"},{"start":3187.549,"end":3202.114,"text":"所以換言之從禮拜五的十點半禮拜六禮拜天一直到禮拜一才送出協商然後跟我們講是說很追求程序正義我想明眼人大家都看得出來所以最終我們"},{"start":3204.648,"end":3218.403,"text":"我們尊重經濟委員會跟內政委員會聯席委員會的審查我們尊重出席五月二號禮拜四朝野協商所有"},{"start":3218.903,"end":3238.221,"text":"出席代表簽名的 包括吳立華委員 陳寅委員 鄭天才委員 高金樹美委員以及下面所有各黨團的委員代表 共同簽字的協商那我們希望大家共同來支持 讓今天的協商能夠順利通過 謝謝接下來我們請民眾黨黃總召請發言"},{"start":3246.259,"end":3269.219,"text":"謝謝院長針對我們今天協商討論的主題有關於原住民保留地禁法補償的條例針對這個條例台灣民眾黨的黨團我們其實並沒有提案但我們看到本院不分黨派的原住民的委員他們有相關的提案"},{"start":3270.548,"end":3288.673,"text":"當初高金素美委員他提的是從每公頃到五萬塊那民主進步黨的吳立華委員跟陳寅委員他們也都個別在他們民進黨委員的支持下提出來的條文是到六萬塊"},{"start":3290.732,"end":3305.468,"text":"我們現在最後在內政跟經濟聯席審理完了以後在5月2號我們看到了黨團協商的結論那個結論是大家都同意就是由美工請6萬元來當作補償的基準"},{"start":3308.67,"end":3326.375,"text":"當然在這個過程當中也很感謝高金素美委員他其實有不厭其煩的來解釋他們這樣子調高基本上面的正當性的基礎跟計算的基準所以我們本來以為這個是一個跨黨派"},{"start":3327.847,"end":3343.28,"text":"各個不同的委員他們基於因為如果原住民的保留地沒有辦法進行任何的種植的話那屬於一種特別的犧牲那這種特別的犧牲國家予以補償本來就是在憲法上面的原則"},{"start":3345.382,"end":3365.413,"text":"補償的金額到底要到哪裡這件事情我們有一些其他的reference來可以當作參照所以我們在理解這整個案子的時候我們黨團也對於最後這個黨團協商的結論我們予以支持所以在上面我們通通都有"},{"start":3366.374,"end":3366.594,"text":"立法院長"},{"start":3386.067,"end":3403.703,"text":"上上上屆國會吧2012到2016的那屆國會的時候我現在看到的是簡東明等48位委員擬去的原住民保留地進法補償及照領回饋條例的草案那當初要怎麼補償這件事情也是由立法部門"},{"start":3404.804,"end":3428.75,"text":"他們所提出來條例上面的修正在我們這屆國會的時候在整個討論審議的過程當中也沒有看到我們的行政部門有提出什麼強烈反對的建議包括那天黨團協商的時候就我們所看到的會議紀錄大概是這個樣子的所以我想前面委員會討論過"},{"start":3430.47,"end":3453.322,"text":"那在委員會的黨團協商大家也都簽字了所以高進樹的委員也很負責的有來跟我們解釋為什麼有需要與調整以及調整基準的考慮所以這個是我們黨團現在目前的看法以上謝謝黃國昌總召你發問以後就請我們再請民進黨柯總召"},{"start":3460.379,"end":3485.225,"text":"第一個齁,我一定要再次講一次政府有多於預算能夠照顧原住民來自於弱勢,包括噪音補助,我們都100%贊成等一下,你先跟我講,不過我也知道沒有,因為沒有關係,我也了解原住民委員巴黎有我講完就好,我講完沒關係"},{"start":3487.54,"end":3514.103,"text":"我會給你額度啦,這樣可以嗎?高委員是原住民委員嘛陳奕英也是嘛,有立法院都是嘛他們當然對於選區就特別了解所以他希望多爭取預算我們都了解但是我現在把事實誠信啦剛才不管黃孟雅和黃國昌講話都講一半而且我非常訝異他們會怎麼講這些話這各位都在立法院裡面這麼久了"},{"start":3514.904,"end":3536.332,"text":"第一個委員會協商所有討論黨團都簽了委員會協商是這樣一般委員會討論以後出委委員會有委員會招委主席商招委主席商說假如大家都沒有意見最後黨邊都會簽名那直接就三讀了當然沒有完成這個程序"},{"start":3537.552,"end":3557.891,"text":"我們三長都沒有簽嘛在立法院這麼久王國昌你還不知道每次都是你跑掉的時候我們就拜託再回來協商甚至到院長這邊也是一樣什麼叫你以為你以為大家然後你認為都是已經超越黨團都簽名我們三長都沒有簽"},{"start":3558.872,"end":3577.924,"text":"這是立完遊戲規則很清楚嘛不要這樣子講話到這裡已經是直播的時候還在講這種話第二個所謂法務部的意見他說總統出席總統區議官以及大院嘛總統現在是誰總統現在是人民會員因為當然他在那個情況底下他也要"},{"start":3579.625,"end":3599.795,"text":"主管級官當然最後是行政院嘛行政是一體的不是行政院有院會所以有一體的這個本案是沒有行政院案喔所以委員排這個東西當然是把閉住聯盟會主管級官當然表示尊重但是呢真正的主管級官是行政院"},{"start":3600.655,"end":3616.042,"text":"於是大約﹖所以兩任必須要好好談當然沒有說所謂的﹖從文貴來講是講得非常清楚明白的不要再去曲解至於坦白講我是上禮拜五就發言因為上28號"},{"start":3619.444,"end":3627.608,"text":"28號 請大家春午以後平靜5月30號上禮拜五就發寫章給韓院長昨天再補發一章我希望韓院長能有善意的回應"},{"start":3636.192,"end":3657.519,"text":"那當然還原諒說他昨天有令委員行程這我能夠體會但是因為他早上才跟我講嘛所以請黃國昌以及副委員你們注意聽有關於超外線的遊戲規則在這個以前還沒表決以前一開始我們一直講這個事情講了多少次遊戲規則先要信定定"},{"start":3658.399,"end":3678.64,"text":"包括什麼包括所所謂的三檔我都講說今天是跟原住民有關的原住民委員是不是應該來是應該來嘛 對不對這個是我們一直在講的嘛怎麼會只要我們包括和選區有關係包括提案委員包括召委都應該來過去都是如此嘛"},{"start":3679.381,"end":3700.952,"text":"反正你難道忘記嗎?前三基礎建設預算的時候因為國民黨整個一路阻擾嘛造成委員會沒有辦法發言嘛所以到上了院會來協商嘛院會協商的時候當初的院長是誰?是蘇嘉潛啊而且還院長還在特別的就是說好安排一個總統給民眾黨把所有部委來"},{"start":3704.614,"end":3711.26,"text":"到這個朝野鄉長,我們都退了把朝野鄉變成委員會執行,我們也忍受啊你亂來一個鐘頭,國民黨兩個鐘頭,再來亂罵,我們也沒有辦法"},{"start":3716.007,"end":3739.924,"text":"去講話 因為就就特別的把曹小強變成委員會話當初我們是非常有意見但是為了能夠遇事和解 能夠大家能夠好好談我們也是忍受的所以並不存在所謂說委員會協商大家簽名委員會沒有黨編簽名 這個大家都知道什麼時候黨編沒有簽名就算數了所以韓國昌 彭文凱"},{"start":3743.026,"end":3759.415,"text":"吳棠真的眼睛縮小這不好讓協商當初很坦然的來講然後起偏斷雞尖滑然後用這樣猛黑這是不對的我們沒有辦法這樣接受等一下吳世耀委員有一段話請他講一下接下來請吳世耀委員請派言"},{"start":3760.909,"end":3774.862,"text":"謝謝院長,我很快速的來報告一下對於這個案子我想幾個面向,其實我手上拿的也是我們當天委員會審查的這個報告那剛剛洪茂凱委員他所為大家來念誦的是"},{"start":3775.743,"end":3779.286,"text":"法務部的意見但這個案子其實主管機關當然是園民會啦園民會當天的會議它的這個綜整的結語是什麼呢園民會說的是有關各委員所提增加預算的部分涉及國家整體預算政策規劃建議待新內閣審慎評估再通盤考量這是剛剛剛剛洪孟愷委員他念的這一份但是我是"},{"start":3802.344,"end":3817.414,"text":"主管部會、原民會的立場都希望能夠做得到的話預算能夠協調的話努力來照顧原住民是我們共同的方向但是呢這整體預算的規模而且增加的預算甚高所以建議是新內閣來然後來審慎的評估、通盤考量所以這就是為什麼民進黨團在委員會審查之後"},{"start":3824.923,"end":3826.163,"text":"﹚立法院黨團協商．事由．議案協商．事由．議案協商．事由．議案協商．事由．議案協商．"},{"start":3845.251,"end":3845.511,"text":"委員會總預算的40%以上"},{"start":3872.799,"end":3884.295,"text":"那如果再加上原民會的法定支出 法定支出再加上禁法的補償的話 那總共的金額會來到佔整個原民會的89%"},{"start":3887.345,"end":3912.305,"text":"換言之如果通過了三萬到六萬明年原民會只剩下百分之十一的預算可以去做其他照顧援助民族的工作不管是道路的、交通的、衛生的、文化的尤其教育的所以這些東西都要去衡量說它可能造成的其他預算的排擠所以這個需要很橫貧的去面對另外在部會之間譬如說農業部的照領獎勵的計畫"},{"start":3916.888,"end":3939.377,"text":"現行是三萬一公頃那經濟部的植樹保齡獎勵金他的金額是二到四萬一公頃所以都沒有超過大概四萬是一個比較合理的這個range所以今天原民這個對於原住民族的進法補償如果要高到六萬的話那可能在部會的橫評上可能這會牽一髮而動全身"},{"start":3941.818,"end":3941.998,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":3958.139,"end":3985.309,"text":"財政紀律法是2019年修正的那財政紀律定定的新的立法所以財政紀律法第五條第七條都寫得很清楚如果立法委員不只立法委員政府機關要增加新的預算那他必須去籌措出新的可行的裁員在哪裡我自己非常感同身受我在爭取文化部文化基本法授權的文化這個我們的這個文化基金"},{"start":3986.149,"end":3986.85,"text":"文化發展基金"},{"start":4009.054,"end":4033.01,"text":"幾億幾億開始來做所以這是一個我們自己要依法來財政紀律法也是一個我想財主單位一定會去捍衛這樣一個法律的精神更不要說憲法70條拉大法官釋字這個相關的規範所以總的回來我們是希望如果等一下讓部會來說明如果預算有空間增加來卓與的提高"},{"start":4033.67,"end":4033.69,"text":"委員．議員"},{"start":4058.346,"end":4070.116,"text":"換言之60萬的原住民族的朋友他其他的需要的服務性的工作發展性的工作職業創業教育文化的支持工作只能夠剩下11%的預算的話我覺得這原民會應該也很頭痛所以橫憑的說怎麼樣去喬出一個合理做得到的這個補償提升我想是我們共同面對的課題好 謝謝"},{"start":4081.113,"end":4105.9,"text":"市長我們先聽一下行政單位講完再發言好嗎我們可以交錯麻煩請原住民曾主委你是最重要的大掌櫃你一定要表達意見好不好具體一點謝謝好 院長還有各位委員我想維護國土保安還有氣候變遷的這個來照顧受限制的原住民這本來就是延民會的天職那因為延民會明年的預算大概是125億左右"},{"start":4108.641,"end":4108.821,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":4123.558,"end":4123.598,"text":"主席"},{"start":4153.021,"end":4153.484,"text":"主席請表達意見"},{"start":4157.457,"end":4182.371,"text":"主席 各位委員 主計總處在這邊說明就是我們是整個政府財政帳推估那園民會他在114年的額度是125億所以相較於113年度大概是增加15億但是如果這個案子從3萬條到6萬那就會增加20幾億的這個數字所以他相對就會吃掉他增加而且還會"},{"start":4183.592,"end":4183.612,"text":"委員長"},{"start":4200.618,"end":4203.84,"text":"主席發言其他列席的行政單位有沒有寶貴意見要補充的不用客氣經濟部長者好經濟部的次長林次長請發言"},{"start":4226.077,"end":4243.412,"text":"主席,各位委員,我想經濟部這邊來補充一下因為剛剛有提到經濟部這邊涉及到原住民保留地的部分主要是我們的自來水法規範底下的自來水的水質水量保護區那自來水水質水量保護區它是收取那個煤鍍水的"},{"start":4244.133,"end":4246.313,"text":"還有沒有其他行政單位要補充的?沒有,我們請莊瑞雄委員發言"},{"start":4274.869,"end":4282.3,"text":"謝謝院長還有我們各黨團聯席的行政官員大家好我想這個案子是這樣對我特別有感"},{"start":4284.249,"end":4308.786,"text":"這個案子是從3萬你現在要調不是無中生有也就是說本來這個禁法的一個補償行政部門就已經在做那你如果調高到6萬的話我剛也聽了曾主委你的講法就是說對於你整個預算來看的話就是說你這個部分所增加出來的你到最後變成在114年度你就變成佔了41%"},{"start":4311.929,"end":4331.329,"text":"這個就不能開玩笑了而且你這個一增加以後就是每一年這跟經濟部這跟農委會那種一次性的又不一樣二十年一次性再來就沒有了那不一樣我為什麼說我特別有感就我那邊有六個原民鄉我那個地方特別我還有墾丁國家公園"},{"start":4332.509,"end":4338.855,"text":"那剛黃國昌委員所提到的部分我就特別有一點感觸了就是說譬如說他強調特別犧牲我們一般在講特別犧牲的就是說你這個所有權人的財產或者譬如說土地好了或者一般我們都會也好各地方都會碰到你說基層巷道那你只要說被人家走一直走走到就會形成一定的要件以後嘿!很抱歉你這個特別犧牲怎麼辦政府怎麼去做補償"},{"start":4361.033,"end":4387.279,"text":"現在說實在話我們園民會還算很負責任擔負起這樣的一個責任現在是三萬塊嘛那不然很多基層巷道如果按照大法官會議的解釋政府你應該去籌措裁員沒錢啊院長幹過市長也很清楚啊不是以前的高雄市每一條基層巷都你都有辦法去把它做一個徵收啊這是第一個那第二個就是說我那個地方又有墾丁國家公園你說列為保護區的地方"},{"start":4388.663,"end":4402.577,"text":"你的隆基 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大家都去發明了"},{"start":4406.328,"end":4418.54,"text":"有念過書的人開始去發明了就看看這個委員社會的容忍義務你的高不高你這個地方是保護林這個地質比較敏感你要負擔的社會義務就比較高沒有超過容忍的限度所以我就特別有感就是說國家公園的"},{"start":4426.806,"end":4438.663,"text":"那在我們這整個原民區的地方你說這一些你去禁法那該不該補償我就認為這個就屬於特別犧牲已經超越社會的忍耐的一個程度了所以政府來補償它是應該的那所以本案要討論的就是說"},{"start":4442.25,"end":4461.513,"text":"曾主委他剛提到一點他不好意思講出來我就幫你講出來啦他應該講的就是說我行政跟立法院他不好意思來跟立法院對抗啊但是行政確實我一年編的預算就是這樣子啊然後我的施政計畫是這樣子啊你立法院你們誰把我做調整了以後那政治責任誰來擔負"},{"start":4462.614,"end":4467.537,"text":"這個其實就是在我們大法官會議解釋在391號裡面所講的啦所講的就是說哪怕你只是在項目之間去把它做移動啊他都認為喔這個就跟憲法上所指的增加的提議是一樣的你這個到最後你這個整個政治責任難以確認施政承辦沒有辦法來負責所以本案是三萬本來就有"},{"start":4488.567,"end":4496.99,"text":"你現在是要調高到六萬是多少才合理那現在鄭主委跟你講說我就真的沒辦法啊我就變四十一趴啊這樣我怎麼做你像原民會裡面啊那麼多原民將裡面其實原民會對整個我們原住民的一個朋友啊經濟弱勢那個原住民的一個建構跟修繕那個住宅的計畫他也必須要去做"},{"start":4514.017,"end":4518.502,"text":"補助啊然後部落的特色那個特色道路的部分我們也都在爭取啊排擠的問題啦排擠的問題啦所以是不是會到6萬我是覺得"},{"start":4527.878,"end":4528.498,"text":"主席"},{"start":4551.23,"end":4566.399,"text":"在場幾位高級委員、盧委員、吳委員都測過他的支持他在競選政見的時候提到什麼他要擴大屏東縣競法補償的範圍2014年的時候我們競法補償是2016年立法通過當年期約要實施有4萬位原住民受惠"},{"start":4567.299,"end":4567.619,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":4588.48,"end":4615.969,"text":"處的處長是誰?就是現在的主委曾志勇我是後當副縣長所以我們對於原住民保留地的建法補償是非常的支持所以呢我們對後來中央能夠立法來推動我們也是非常的欣慰但是我還是要強調的我們認為呢在本次的修法當中有一個地方要提醒各位來注意一點就是我們在這個法條的最後一項它裡面提到說每兩年調整一次由中央主管機關參照中央主計機關發布的最近一次消費者物價指數來調整"},{"start":4617.929,"end":4639.821,"text":"這個是屬於我們立法的權限因為立法權它是一個重複性普遍性的適用原則所以它跟預算也能不同在這裡當年訂定的時候有訂定金額也是在2016年是由立法權跟行政權都在由國民黨執政情況所通過的但是我們必須提醒的現在我們去調整這個法律的金額從3萬到6萬不管調回幾萬"},{"start":4642.222,"end":4650.934,"text":"他其實上已經實質上是屬於預算權的一個部分依照大法官釋字C9號解釋立法院決議逾越憲法所定之權責者僅為建議性質我們不希望這個立法這麼辛苦得來不易得到朝野共識的一個立法"},{"start":4658.484,"end":4676.548,"text":"到頭來被認為只是一個建議性質而需要它具有約束力所以在這裡具體建議朝野思考一個方式就本條文的後項就是屬於兩年一次的誤條這是屬於立法權的權責我們予以支持但是至於金額多少你從3萬到4萬還是到5萬還是6萬這事實上是行政權在預算編列的時候它要去衡量衡酌去考量的"},{"start":4683.57,"end":4699.036,"text":"那麼根據包括我們是自第264號的一個決議其實立法院在審議預算之外所做的決議比如說在民國94年調整公教人員年終獎金增發半個月要編入追加預算大法也跟你說不好意思你們這個違憲了"},{"start":4700.797,"end":4730.337,"text":"所以我是希望說我們是不是請責成 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只要過了一個月的冷凍期 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立了這個法絕對會包含經費很多 我就講最近101年"},{"start":5412.714,"end":5437.876,"text":"國民黨執政 馬英九執政 花東第七發展條例沒有行政院版本 立法院三讀通過多少錢 四百億 四百億的花東基金 第一個第二個 一百零三年 原住民族教育法 原住民的教育經費本來是百分之一點二"},{"start":5439.212,"end":5451.24,"text":"我們103年修法只有連駐明德立委的版本103年我們修法提高為1.9%從1.2提高為教育部總預算的1.9%沒有人說不可以這是立法前"},{"start":5463.291,"end":5488.92,"text":"那另外就是剛才原住民現在我們談的原住民保留地進法補償條例一百零四年馬英九執政的最後一年最後一個月最後四個月我們一百零四年十二月在這裡三讀通過沒有行政院版本第一個法律沒有行政院版本沒有行政院版本啊沒有人說不行啊"},{"start":5490.728,"end":5518.934,"text":"我們就講最近111年我當內政委員會的召委我主持地方民代及村里長的條例村里長的事務費調高為五萬塊沒有行政院版本當時內政部的部長在做報告的時候反對"},{"start":5520.506,"end":5548.672,"text":"但是朝野認為是需要調高了三讀通過三讀通過所以為什麼今天各黨團只剩下民進黨團不簽字然後依照立法院的執行行使法本來召委協商之後過一個月就可以表決了也歡迎補簽了"},{"start":5550.68,"end":5550.84,"text":"委員長好"},{"start":5577.643,"end":5578.384,"text":"原保地經濟價值超過122億元"},{"start":5601.516,"end":5601.676,"text":"陳英委員"},{"start":5635.808,"end":5636.229,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":5655.171,"end":5678.509,"text":"國民黨團提案有列入討論的議程那當時呢民進黨團也沒有反對所以特別韓院長有宣告就是我們全體就是無異議通過所以今天呢這個禁法補償的案子才會列進來我們今天才有機會坐在這邊所以我剛剛講韓院長也都一直點頭禁表同意"},{"start":5683.433,"end":5712.188,"text":"所以我要在這邊特別說明我反對高金委員您在臉書上特別點名我和吳麗華委員說我們兩個反對這個案子也反對說把這個議程列入今天的討論我想這樣子的操作它是不是一個事實那這樣也無助於我們大家來推動這個案子因為畢竟我想替原住民爭取權益"},{"start":5713.308,"end":5731.509,"text":"大家應該,我們原住民所有的委員其實應該就是合作那我想對這個我們來替這個原住民爭取禁法補償這件事情是沒有錯的那當然我們的立場也是非常的堅定要和原住民族站在一起"},{"start":5732.31,"end":5748.59,"text":"但是呢我想就是說其實當然啦行政院它就是說這個任何一個黨執政那行政院要來這個控管掌控這個所有全國的這個財務那也是沒有錯的"},{"start":5749.96,"end":5777.813,"text":"那只是說我相信在過去簡東銘委員的提案當時也沒有行政院的版本但是我相信行政院的這個行政院當時也有充分的溝通協商然後也有精算過那當時或許那樣的金額行政院是沒有問題所以大家就一起無意通過了"},{"start":5778.473,"end":5804.868,"text":"那我其實剛剛大家都講了很多也把過去的這個整個脈絡都有提示過了那我比較想要了解的是說就是說到底這樣子盤點之後到底行政院這邊有多少的空間我想要了解這一點因為我們剛剛討論了這麼久都沒有把這個部分"},{"start":5805.919,"end":5827.96,"text":"提出來一個比較具體的一個數字那我想因為我們在協商嘛但是我們的提案當然也是有精算過但是我想聽聽行政院的意見到底你們面臨的問題那在盤點之後你們空間到底在哪裡請說出來讓我們了解一下"},{"start":5829.244,"end":5849.819,"text":"陳委員6萬塊錢這個你現在保留6萬塊錢這個你保留因為我想聽他們的意見我都沒有講陳委員沒關係你的意思就是說你很支持原住民但也重視行政部門的意見對不對我想聽看到底現在請黃人委員我要講一下好不好謝謝院長"},{"start":5855.185,"end":5882.358,"text":"那各位朝野各位我們的委員大家好今天既然吳立華跟陳寅委員都已經認同禁法補償六萬塊的這樣的議題而且也非常支持當然我們也感謝高薪素美包含我們的鄭天才過去一直提案這樣的議程到現在已經進入到三堵通過了但是朝野希望民進黨不要再擋這個案子而且希望"},{"start":5883.398,"end":5895.288,"text":"趕快通過 讓族人明年的一一四年的一月一號趕快實施 以上 謝謝我當然很仔細聆聽 所有委員的發言當然我非常了解 你們對於選區的關係應該爭取一算 這是理所當然 也非常尊重"},{"start":5908.158,"end":5925.114,"text":"但是要把事實釐清那我不希望做真正操作各位委員那你們抄襲鄉議以後你把院務委員來找我就叫我簽我說這個要 院長總督抄襲協商我並沒有說要發很多錢說院長總督抄襲協商再談就是如此"},{"start":5926.178,"end":5947.804,"text":"我沒有跟你講說要院長主持朝夷賞,所以你這樣嘛,你又去馬上操作政治,沒關係啦,沒關係啦,即便說很多錢要院長來主持朝夷賞,這個也是一個,我不會否認,但是我一直跟你講說這個一定要院長主持朝夷賞嘛,所以你馬上做政治操作,雷之魚屁我都忍受,沒關係啦"},{"start":5950.222,"end":5955.915,"text":"沒有,你就把這個,我講話你等一下,你等一下再回答,沒有關係啦"},{"start":5958.771,"end":5981.647,"text":"沒有關係啦都沒關係都沒有關係剛才也有點名第一個我希望大家不要做政治操作因為人家臉書去批我我說沒關係啦人家經濟預算我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍耐一下我會忍�"},{"start":5983.447,"end":6000.441,"text":"我都在現場剛才吳立法委員把這個立法過程也講了剛才中央衛生委員也講到2006年曹啓紅的事情也講了那我把這個都講清楚好了事實上這個題目在臺灣不是只有2006年曹啓紅現場的時候神戶時期"},{"start":6004.924,"end":6029.607,"text":"整個時期齁整個時期齁宋楚瑜當黨主席神主席的時候就有一些想辦法去做一些一些補償都有一些辦法沒有錯我們從這裡開始談就是說大家對於齁這個事情是不是要來思考一些對原住民的一個補償乃至於招呼這個從這裡開始"},{"start":6031.772,"end":6035.239,"text":"回頭過來 我講 當初委員你不要忘記"},{"start":6037.281,"end":6061.174,"text":"我告訴大家講 當你竟然議完的時候 你們成立原住民問政委員會 對不對我和王拓 他之前過往的 我是總召他幹事長 我們兩個還去參加原住民問政委員會幫你來整齊預算 這個事實你沒忘記吧所以你看到立法院有一張照片 當原住民老人今天七點五十歲的時候"},{"start":6062.415,"end":6088.246,"text":"包括YSB也含有很多原住民委員當初委員把他抬起來在議場裡面通過的時候把他抬起來這是我們一起去爭取的是不是這樣這段歷史你不要忘記回到辦案前的好辦案前是什麼是馬英九執政是通過是什麼這最早是沒有錯二零零一二年中華的開始然後英文歷史弄到什麼時候"},{"start":6090.206,"end":6106.153,"text":"2015年10月18號是檢通命委員然後之後通過那不是民進黨執政是馬英努執政的時期最後的時候那時候有兩個法案我告訴你有兩個法案不是只有一個法案通過一個叫做嚴正計劃補償當然我們認為這個是違反權力分裂原則"},{"start":6111.98,"end":6136.567,"text":"但是呢假如行政部門能不能做得下去他當然會做他認為沒有辦法執行的時候只是當作參考他多少是他的錢益錢益分顏者一定要講清楚這個錢益分顏者就是說預算編列前是在行政院我們沒有辦法去編列預算做預算增加的支出所以2015年12月18號通過的時候那時候也沒有財政紀律法"},{"start":6138.108,"end":6156.979,"text":"現在有沒有有傳證記憶法通過說我說兩個法案包括這一個他什麼時候公告呢是2016年7月1號公告2016年到我們執政了我整天要講另外一個7月1號公告所以2017年的時候臨前院長的時候開始編列一算"},{"start":6157.813,"end":6174.253,"text":"到二五一九年的時候 首頁的時候 賴清德 賴清德總統 廖長青那一張他更照顧 他把這些水銀 水資水銀 保安局全部放開 全部排除給更多的照顧 這是這樣的歷史"},{"start":6176.294,"end":6176.994,"text":"國土計劃法"},{"start":6194.765,"end":6213.322,"text":"國土計畫也是2015年選前的時候通過當初滿意國土計畫是一個很進步性、影響性是沒有錯啦執行起來非常困難所以那時候我在在野黨的時候我都提出很多挑戰包括國民黨、立委都提出很多挑戰"},{"start":6214.603,"end":6229.394,"text":"那時候有兩個,一個叫做邱榮業,一個叫做田秋瑾他很認真,後來終於通過那時候馬英九政府是怎麼樣,通過2015年通過的時候他設定2019年5月1號開始實施,後來我們接到了520"},{"start":6233.772,"end":6258.177,"text":"蔡英文總統執政了我們接到這兩個球這兩個球要怎麼辦呢當然就是國土計劃法居然來了到施文昌當院長的時候發現說糟糕這國土計劃法一通過七一計劃要廢掉了那各縣市都全部國土計劃都不送來有的把什麼把優良農田來公衛區當然不行啊"},{"start":6259.252,"end":6287.435,"text":"所以再去延遲三年那現在我們又面對到國有紀律法的問題那國有紀律法現在各縣市又不送來所以當年馬英九到最後的時候通過這兩個法案他知道讓你們民進黨去背這個事情我們今天回頭過來談這個事情的時候所以有關於黃昌委員所謂特別犧牲特別犧牲發生在什麼地方呢就是經濟部嘛你要去造雷你一定有去跟眾"},{"start":6288.536,"end":6299.642,"text":"我再給你補充,並不是,等一下我知道,我把這個總統談完,我們馬上,今天一定會表決我們等一下要講一個終極答案我把這個該講的話先講完再講所以,幾個,我立法講得非常好啊他覺得很順利,我也不順利,他當文武程序的協商"},{"start":6315.151,"end":6321.576,"text":"包括陳議員我也講一樣嘛 也有回憶嘛 但是還是要尊重行政院"},{"start":6322.199,"end":6346.272,"text":"不過大家都在一個憲法法規範裏面在做這個事情比如行政立法之前的分立上面那包括我們黃榮委員講的我們6萬塊是民進黨在擋我們今天不要講政治議員我們講說面對這個問題我都知道因為講出是應當的嘛然後這也是應當的但是不要做政治操作已經抹黑那今天我要談到最後就是說"},{"start":6348.041,"end":6354.224,"text":"我面對這個體育的時候,剛才中山兵委員談得很清楚,包括張美琼委員談得很清楚,中山兵以前是國大"},{"start":6363.086,"end":6389.954,"text":"大法院是391嘛你超越在行政院所能做的事情的話的事情會影響他施政的完整性以及整個歸屬都屬於建議性質嘛我們今天可以大家說三萬、五萬、二萬、十萬都可以建議但是行政權在他身上嘛他如果偏內當然是他的潛力嘛所說並無法強制為之啦我只能講這樣"},{"start":6391.858,"end":6406.083,"text":"謝謝柯政銘總召,我建議曾主委,等一下我會敲一個休息時間,讓您在休息時間跟我們的趙偉,黨團的幹部,那高經緯,你簡短二要說明一下。我知道,謝謝,謝謝趙偉,謝謝那個韓院長,因為剛剛那個柯總召也好,陳議員委員,"},{"start":6412.305,"end":6412.365,"text":"李慧琼議員"},{"start":6428.456,"end":6431.577,"text":"民進黨沒有把進法補償列入他們今天要表決的議案是事實我只是把這個事實貼在臉書也希望陳寅委員跟吳立華委員趕快去說服柯總召然後第二個我要講八年前柯總召我謝謝你您告訴我說只要田秋瑾委員簽字你就不會有意見"},{"start":6452.947,"end":6464.678,"text":"因此我跟簡東明委員兩個人就每天纏著田秋瑾委員最後田秋瑾委員簽字了因此禁法補償在八年前在立法院就三讀通過照片還在我的臉書上面然後當時一通過了之後民進黨黨團馬上就發了一個新聞稿也就是由我們的一將當時是民進黨"},{"start":6478.63,"end":6493.018,"text":"原住民事務部的主任他在新聞上就說這是一個錢坑法案這是事實我也沒有政治操作大家都可以去翻新聞而八年後的今天柯總召你告訴我說因為這個會花政府太多錢那事實上你沒有簽字而那天鄭天才也在我旁邊最後我要講的是"},{"start":6501.963,"end":6523.85,"text":"院長今天如果柯總召沒有辦法簽字的話我剛就說了我們立法院的職群行事法超過一個月的冷凍期就可以表決今天民眾黨團也好國民黨團也好我們在這邊都在期待等待院長你最後說服柯總召如果不能夠說服柯總召我們就進去表決吧謝謝"},{"start":6525.49,"end":6534.055,"text":"我馬上回答,這很關鍵性因為曾主委是行政部門,你現在說修正完他的壓力我先講很簡單的問題,你說我沒有簽字,我等一下就會簽簽的時候我們不同意常常在表決,我不是要贊成員"},{"start":6550.445,"end":6578.423,"text":"簽字是有協商結論的這一定會啦不然我今天來這裡幹什麼不會再演了 不會再今天是不是我弄來的啊我弄來 我已經答應你就是要曹偉強有簽字才能表決我是堅持這個東西啊第一個第二個你聽清楚不要再招你做到低級的操作根本沒有已經就是在這裡就是要沒有結論也要簽字要表決嘛這等一下要表決什麼還要還有什麼你在爭取的是我爭取來這邊要曹偉強第二個"},{"start":6579.844,"end":6591.038,"text":"上禮拜五你聽清楚委員長的案子是什麼是再生惡法以及村里長補助這是我們的案子對不對等一下等一下我們提出來的時候"},{"start":6592.555,"end":6612.401,"text":"當然是我們主張嘛 要通過 如果你就跑下來說沒有進法主張 下一個案子是你們的案子 有進法主張 以及 以及什麼 以及關國維的懲戒 懲戒案 好你 你 我馬上提的 我馬上同意 有沒有跟反對 沒有反對嘛 我在講的就是說"},{"start":6613.081,"end":6631.349,"text":"沒有關係走程序但是要朝野鄉要簽字票簽字以往有標的就是如此你現在這個凹這個東西凹的一直很難看根本毫無道理嘛等一下當他簽字不然他怎麼辦簽字以後蘇明智要怎麼樣立場過去我先告訴你啊"},{"start":6633.308,"end":6651.356,"text":"民進黨成立1979年成立以後,到2016年,我們30年間,表決幾萬次,經過超越協商表決幾萬次,我們都輸,但是我們還是福音。今天我們人數少,每一個表決都輸,但是有經過這樣的民主程序,這是我們最在意的。"},{"start":6652.136,"end":6681.383,"text":"就是如此嘛你到底懂不懂你們都亂講一通我今天來就是讓大家簽字啦簽字重新糾結嘛院長對不起我建議您是不是先把五月三十一號因為您主持先把那一段釐清有利於我們接下來協商不然大家為了五月三十一號這樣都跟武力華被操作所以我們現在就是有點不順五月三十一號就是無意通過啊我們都無意通過啊你們做台信我們無意通過啊只是要炒我協商而已啊這操作真的非常低級啊而且一半啊"},{"start":6682.063,"end":6698.228,"text":"到底還有沒有主席 都請陳...贊成啊 無異議啊 無異議我要表決沒有 我們就是贊成那案子是無異議啊 還有什麼 還有意見你到底是講什麼話嘛那案子我們完整無異議也沒有表決啊 全黨都差額是一次的啊現在有點 有點凌亂"},{"start":6703.797,"end":6719.374,"text":"我建議曾主委你掌握最後黃金時刻我會喊一個休息十分鐘你跟幾個不同黨的委員協商我感覺你在執行的時候你剛剛的表情告訴我你會有部分的"},{"start":6721.496,"end":6723.818,"text":"我也必須要把剛剛朝野協商很多意見胡說八道的來講清楚阿"},{"start":6740.068,"end":6750.398,"text":"各自認知我又沒有指明你們兩個嘛你們怎麼會認為我在指授你們胡說八道呢是不是跟金額有關你溝通一下"},{"start":7248.752,"end":7254.318,"text":"好,各位委員,我們請...各位黨團幹部請坐,我們準備繼續開會各位委員,我嘗試訓練一個我們暫時達成的立法院黨團協商的一個...好,我跟你講這個..."},{"start":7268.154,"end":7296.553,"text":"好 那為了麻煩控制一下時間 謝謝我一定控制時間的院長 我想啊 剛剛大家對這個案子大家的極度的一個關注啦那 剛剛鄭太宰委員講話我又有所感啦 你知道過去怎麼樣怎麼樣怎麼樣十年前如何 八年前如何 我說實在話啦立法院通過任何的法律 如果到最後行政部門他把預算給編列進去了 這個叫追認"},{"start":7297.674,"end":7300.296,"text":"也沒有人提出釋憲他要編的預算這沒有問題就是等同他的願版我們要把他代勞但是我必須要提出來我們2019年4月10號我們整個修訂的財政紀律法裡面你中央政府各級機關或立法委員所提的法律案大幅增加政府稅出或減少稅入者"},{"start":7318.351,"end":7333.082,"text":"第一個 具體指明去彌補資金的一個來源甚至於你各地方政府 例如居然所提的自治法規增加的政府稅出或減少稅入者同樣都是準用那剛剛大家在提在提的就是說本來3萬那今天的案子是6萬高金委員特別提到說那這個不是對原住民族的一個照顧"},{"start":7344.203,"end":7363.36,"text":"我接受我接受這個是一個特別犧牲我接受但問題就是說那三萬塊啦好像是提到六萬塊那是容忍的問題社會容忍度到什麼地方的問題那三萬塊的時候大家一直慶祝喔我們為了援助民主我們爭取了多少權利啦那好那我請問那今天變成六萬塊了呢"},{"start":7365.506,"end":7375.713,"text":"那如果明年變成十萬塊了呢那後年變成二十萬塊了呢所以我剛特別開宗明義去講到說這個所謂的特別犧牲是說這個社會容忍的義務到什麼地方我特別也指明啊說整個國家公園保護區啊或者說保護林的地方啊隆基跟建壁全部都是限制啊這到底是不是特別犧牲政府說不是現在我們的社會共識也說還不算"},{"start":7392.723,"end":7409.595,"text":"因為你那個地方土質比較敏感你還要去做承擔去承受那我要特別再去指明的就是說今天剛好是涉及到原住民委員會裡面他這個我特別在意的就是說你現在把他提撥到41%光這一個部分而且是逐年的"},{"start":7413.783,"end":7416.926,"text":"我們各位偉大的政治家你認為這樣子真的是合理的嗎真的是合理的嗎今天大家談的都是在談情吶都在談理吶沒有人針對這一種對特定族群的這一種補助你說要達到一個公平的對待笨到說我來阻擋你變成社會的一個劍把但是我必須要提出來就是說法律也講在這個地方吶"},{"start":7436.423,"end":7463.069,"text":"我贊同柯總召所講的啦到底有沒有抵觸憲法的部分憲法的規定在這個地方立法跟行政這個分際倒不是用表決啦但是如果說原民會對這個這個金額他有所折衝他都同意了我認為他是事後的罪證這倒也沒有破壞到整個憲法的一個設計是說行政權跟立法權之間的一個衝突啊所以我是認為你的想法好你這是"},{"start":7465.549,"end":7465.929,"text":"我們也不想當壞人啊"},{"start":7486.224,"end":7490.907,"text":"我屏東那個地方也有6個原民鄉鎮阿我現在跟你講的是說你會不會有排擠的問題阿我現在跟你講的是不是跟你講說立法院去制定你把它弄成6萬明年弄個10萬20萬大家說不會我們大家講爽了就好反正有選票就好全部都是政治操作啦我也不想當壞人但是我必須要去指明我們2019年財政紀律法是這個要對全國國民負責的"},{"start":7513.157,"end":7536.848,"text":"大家現在認為說大法官都沒有用的但是四字三九一就跟你講得很清楚啊等一下那個原民會的曾主委你請掌握最後重要的黃金時間好不好你請發言我們大家都想聽聽您的意見你發言之後傅坤吉總召請準備不是等一下院長不好意思因為還有一個更重要的人我們的主席講都沒講好謝謝"},{"start":7541.422,"end":7553.543,"text":"主席各位委員我想這樣的一個這個預算進來真的會排擠到人民會的這個預算就變成我很多的這個很多的預算就不能做了是這樣子"},{"start":7555.816,"end":7557.438,"text":"主席,那你來當主席,我就當很累"},{"start":7579.38,"end":7580.961,"text":"有可能讓我們去西川還要去西川"},{"start":7601.149,"end":7609.257,"text":"因為跟主席報告,我想我們也還要再細算一下麻煩請副主席長,麻煩您是最重要的財政言情說"},{"start":7612.218,"end":7634.014,"text":"主席跟各位報告 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中央主管機關應組成再生醫療審議會以下簡純審議會致委員若干人就醫藥生計倫理法律與其他相關專業學者專家及病友團體聘派兼職由衛生福利部部長或部長就委員中指定一人擔任召集人前向審議會辦理下列再生醫療事項"},{"start":2161.607,"end":2185.913,"text":"一、發展創新及推動政策之諮詢二、正確知識及觀念宣導之諮詢三、病人安全及醫療品質提升之諮詢四、年財培育推動之諮詢五、研究發展及獎勵補助之諮詢審議六、再生製劑及再生技術管理之諮詢七、合與再生製劑有付款許可之審議"},{"start":2186.893,"end":2211.001,"text":"八、執行成效評估之諮、九、其他再生醫療相關事項之諮。第一項審議會之組成委員資格亦是另一回避其其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機構併之。第一項審議會任意性別委員不得少於委員總數三分之一。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過,請宣讀第五條。"},{"start":2213.158,"end":2216.102,"text":"委員謝衣鳯等提案第6條至第8條均不予採納請宣讀第6條"},{"start":2223.786,"end":2250.58,"text":"第六條 中央主管機關等委託其他政府機關構、醫療機構、學術研究機構、學校或法人辦理下列事項必要時得捐助設立財管法人為之一、特定細胞提供者之篩選與其細胞之處理、保存其提供二、高技術性組織細胞之處理及製造三、種原細胞之蒐集及保存四、燃體組織細胞提供之招募及推廣"},{"start":2251.42,"end":2280.501,"text":"五、其他配合政府推動再生醫療相關政策之事項。其向其他政府機關構、醫療機構、學術研究機構、學校或法人之委託方式、資格條件由中央主管機關公告之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過,委員謝衣鳯等提案第10條、第12條均不予採納。請宣讀第二章。第二章:「再生醫療人體試驗及研究。」宣讀完畢。"},{"start":2281.363,"end":2298.386,"text":"照審查會章文通過請宣讀第七條第七條醫療機構執行再生技術前除有第八條第一項規定情形外應進行並完成人體實驗宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第八條"},{"start":2299.434,"end":2314.743,"text":"第8條醫療機構執行再生技術由項鍊起行之一者免完成人體試驗一、治療為其生命或嚴重腎癌之疾病且國內尚無施導之藥品、醫療器材或醫療技術二、本法施行前"},{"start":2316.204,"end":2338.824,"text":"醫療機構僅中央主管機關核准執行之再生技術。其向第一款式條件申請案例書限制、倫理規範及其他應遵行事項由中央主管機關公告之,但其治療應排除異種細胞組織。醫療機構執行第一向第一款再生技術前,應主管向中央主管機關申請核准實在為之。"},{"start":2340.511,"end":2350.338,"text":"醫療機構執行再生技術由第一向第一款進行者免依再生醫療直接條例規定申請藥品許可證或有付款許可宣讀完畢"},{"start":2359.775,"end":2386.561,"text":"第9條 再生醫療研究涉及胚胎或胚胎幹細胞不得以下列方式為之一、以人工受精方式製造胚胎二、製造雜交體三、以其他物種細胞核植入去核之人類卵細胞四、繁衍研究用胚胎五、將研究用胚胎植入人類或其他物種之子宮六、偵測或繁衍具有人類生殖細胞之氫核物種"},{"start":2387.401,"end":2392.867,"text":"其其他經中央主管機關公告禁止之材料或研究方式宣讀完畢"},{"start":2396.584,"end":2424.699,"text":"第10條 中央主管機關或中央目的事業主管機關得就再生醫療之研究發展給予獎勵或補助前項獎勵或補助之對象、條件、申請程序、獎勵或補助方式、審查精準、非準及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關會商中央目的事業主管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第三章第三章再生醫療之執行宣讀完畢"},{"start":2425.925,"end":2437.395,"text":"照審查會章名通過請宣讀第11條第11條非醫療機構不得執行再生醫療宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第12條"},{"start":2438.652,"end":2457.819,"text":"第12條,醫療機構執行再生技術或使用中央主管機關指定之再生製劑應向中央主管機關申請核准,經核准後並向指向市縣市主管機關登記,使得為之中央主管機關得就前項制核准,委任所屬機關或委託其他機關各務法人團體辦理"},{"start":2459.199,"end":2478.566,"text":"第一項再生志氣之指定申請核選之條件與程序、核選效期與展演、廢止、核選事項變更費用審查與收取、退廢及其他因遵行事強制辦法由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過委員邱議瑩等、委員羅廷瑋等"},{"start":2481.451,"end":2501.579,"text":"黃秀芳等、委員王振旭等、臺灣民眾黨黨團、委員楊瓊英等分別提案第9條均不予採納。請宣讀第13條。第13條,執行再生醫療之一之因為肝疾病相關領域之專科醫師其資格由中央主管機關公告之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":2503.154,"end":2529.915,"text":"照審查會條文通過請宣讀第14條第14條醫療機構執行再生技術有細胞培養處理及保存以下並稱細胞操作必要者得自行或委託再生醫療生技醫藥公司或醫療機構以下並稱受託機構為之且向執行細胞操作之醫療機構、受託機構明依藥事法制規定取得藥品執照也許可執照"},{"start":2530.775,"end":2545.632,"text":"其執行細胞操作應經中央主管機關查核及許可後使得為之。中央主管機關得就前項之查核、許可及其他相關管理事項委任所屬機關或委託其他機關各法人團體辦理。"},{"start":2547.033,"end":2572.85,"text":"第二項醫療機構受託機構執行細胞操作之方法、設施、設備、管制措施、運銷操作人員資格與因完成之相關訓練、查核許可之申請條件與程序、核准效期與展言、廢止許可事項變更及其他因遵行事項之變法由中央主管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第14條請宣讀第15條更正"},{"start":2577.219,"end":2604.725,"text":"第15條醫療機構執行再生醫療前應向病人或其法定代理人、配偶、親屬或關係人說明可能效果與不良反應、費用、救濟措施及相關必要事項醫療機構執行再生醫療前應經病人或其法定代理人、配偶、親屬或關係人同意擬具同意書後指導為之前項同意書應具備之內容由中央主管機關定之宣讀完畢"},{"start":2605.785,"end":2635.075,"text":"照審查會條文通過請宣讀第16條第16條一條機構使用中央主管機關指定之再生製劑或執行再生技術應製作記錄至少保存15年並就中央主管機關指定之項目登錄於中央主管機關建設之資訊系統但未成年者之記錄至少應保存至其成年後15年其相記錄內容應包括使用或執行之日期、場所"},{"start":2635.675,"end":2657.344,"text":"程序使用這再生之計與執行這再生技術嚴重不良事件及其他經中央主管機關指定之事項宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第4章第4章再生醫療組織細胞管理宣讀完畢照審查會章明通過請宣讀第17條"},{"start":2658.7,"end":2676.68,"text":"第17條醫療機構或受託機構執行細胞操作組織細胞取自經中央主管機關許可設置之細胞保存庫者位應確保人體組織細胞來源提供者之合適性宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第18條"},{"start":2678.908,"end":2700.862,"text":"第18條 細胞保存戶是設置應經中央主管機關許可其保存人體組織細胞得收取費用並應確保組織細胞來源提供者之合適性其向細胞保存戶設置之資格申請條件與程序保存項目、許可效極與展延、廢止許可事項變更應具備之設施設備與人員資格、品質管理費用審查與收取"},{"start":2705.945,"end":2732.166,"text":"退費商業運用利益回饋及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。簽條及第一項提供整合事項之判定條件篩選、測試項目及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。中央主管機關得就第一項之許可及其他相關管理事項委任所屬機關或委託其他機關共法人團體辦理。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":2733.058,"end":2757.97,"text":"照審查會條文通過請宣讀第19條第19條醫療機構或細胞保存戶設置機構取得再生醫療組織細胞來源之提供者應有意思能力捐存於人為線但顯有益於治療特定人口群且未能以其他對象取代者不在此線其上之組織細胞應於取得前獲得提供者遵守面同意"},{"start":2758.53,"end":2784.707,"text":"前項書面同意提供者為限聚行為能力人或受輔助宣告之人時應得其本人及法定代理人或輔助人書面同意為無行為能力人或受監護宣告之人時應得其法定代理人或監護人書面同意提供者為無異性能力之成年人未能依前項規定辦理時應按下令順序之人員取得其書面同意"},{"start":2785.367,"end":2802.425,"text":"一、配偶、二、產年子女、三、父母、四、兄弟姐妹、五、祖父母。前項第二款是第五款,規定人員所為之書面同意,等以一人為之,同意順序之人,意思表示不一致時,一欲五,意思難利之,產年人同居親屬為先。"},{"start":2804.086,"end":2828.462,"text":"其同居親屬有二人以上者以年長者為先,無同居親屬者以年長者為先。第三項第四項規定在生醫療組織細胞來源之提供者為現日行為能力人、受輔助宣告之人、無行為能力人、受監護宣告之人或無意思能力追求年人,取得之書面同意,應經公正實施效力。"},{"start":2829.022,"end":2841.312,"text":"本條及第20條書面同一之內容得以完整呈現並為日後取信工、查驗者得以電子文件為之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第20條"},{"start":2842.915,"end":2866.047,"text":"第20條一、檢調觀念取得同意前應告之下列事項一、機構名稱二、組織細胞自取的方式可能產生是副作用與併發症發生率與處理方法近期限制及其他相關應配合事項三、提供者合適性判定條件四、剩餘組織細胞之後續處置或可能之使用範圍"},{"start":2867.088,"end":2889.596,"text":"五、對提供行為之補助內容及方式﹐六、後續追蹤內容及方式﹐七、退出終止及終止之權利﹐八、取得組織細胞過程﹐發生不良反應之醫療照護﹐補償及處理﹐九、預期可能衍生之利益及歸屬﹐十、個人資料本命措施﹐十一、其他經營中央主管機關公告之事項﹐"},{"start":2890.416,"end":2909.434,"text":"其項同應諸告示方式、程序及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過,請宣讀第5章。第5章,監督及救濟,宣讀完畢。照審查會章名通過,請宣讀第21條。"},{"start":2910.816,"end":2926.818,"text":"第二十一條昭默再生醫療組織細胞提供雜誌廣告以下稱昭默廣告除昭默再生製劑組織細胞提供雜誌廣告限由藥商委之外以由經合轉執行再生醫療之醫療機構或保存組織"},{"start":2928.059,"end":2945.425,"text":"細胞之細胞保存護士機構或受中央主管機關所托辦理第6條第一項第4款章目及推廣人體組織細胞提供之其他政府機關機構、醫療機構、學術研究機構、學校法人或捐助設立之財團法人為之違憲"},{"start":2947.901,"end":2960.896,"text":"再生醫療是廣告現由經合團執行再生醫療之醫療機構為之再生之際廣告依藥物是否藥品廣告是規定宣讀完畢稍等審查會議條文通過請宣讀第22條"},{"start":2962.165,"end":2982.093,"text":"第二十二條 招募廣告及再生醫療廣告以下必須廣告不得就醫療效能有誇大不實或無科學實證之標示宣傳其項廣告 廣告者應於刊播前將其內容、刊播方式、刊播文件及影音錄製之內容向中央主管機關監製之資訊系統登錄"},{"start":2984.634,"end":2999.682,"text":"其中央主管機關或行委任委託之機關構或法人核准、委託傳播業呈刊播並應提取核准文件後使得為之刊播期間未經核准不得變更於原核准廣告內容或刊播方式"},{"start":3000.262,"end":3017.435,"text":"指向市或縣市主管機關發現廣告內容有違反第一項或前項規定時應另立即提取刊剝並限其改善藉其為改善者應禁止其繼續刊剝並通知前項之中央主管機關機關購貨法人費者其核准"},{"start":3018.555,"end":3037.788,"text":"第一項廣告得看摸與不得看摸之文字、言詞、圖畫或其他內容、招募對象、看摸方式、看摸地點及其他因遵行事項製片法由中央主管機關定之第8條第一項第一款之再生技術不得廣告宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第23條"},{"start":3039.554,"end":3067.248,"text":"第23條傳播業者不得看播未經核准與核准事項不符已廢止核准,經令立即停止看播或經禁止繼續看播之廣告傳播業者接受委託看播廣告因此廣告之日其六個月內保存委託看播廣告之內容、委託看播機構名稱、地址、電話及前條第二項是核准文件影版資料委託看播者為醫療機構者"},{"start":3069.309,"end":3081.816,"text":"並應保存開業執照字號。主管機關要求提供傾向文件資料時,全部業者不得規避、妨礙或拒絕。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過,請宣讀第24條。"},{"start":3083.53,"end":3108.655,"text":"第二十四條醫療機構執行第八條第一項及第十二條第一項暫生技術者應於每年度初兩後六個月內或中央主管機關通知之期限內提出結果報告前項報告內容應包括案例屬、治療效果、不良事件及其他中央主管機關指定之事項中央主管機關應每年公開第一項醫療機構之治療效果及統計之醫療品質資訊"},{"start":3112.156,"end":3114.359,"text":"以維護民眾權益宣讀完畢趙審查會條文通過請宣讀第25條"},{"start":3118.396,"end":3141.617,"text":"第二十五條醫療機構使用中央主管機關指定之再生治劑或執行再生技術應建立長期追蹤機制發生嚴重不良反應時應通報中央主管機關其通報之期限方式內容及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第二十六條"},{"start":3142.438,"end":3165.164,"text":"第二十六條,醫療機構有項鍊影響病人權益安全情形之一者,中央主管機關得令其停止或終止執行再生醫療之全部會議部並公告之。一、違反第八條第二項,中央主管機關公告應遵行之事項,或違依第十二條第一項規定,經中央主管機關核准之內容執行再生醫療。"},{"start":3166.144,"end":3194.603,"text":"二、不良事件發生案例數或嚴重度顯有異常三、未依前條前段規定進行通報四、執行細胞操作未符合第14條第4項鎖定辦法之規定五、其他影響病人權益安全之請示醫療機構自行停止或終止經依第12條第1項規定核准之再生醫療全部或一部者應事先訓明理由向中央主管機關申請同意"},{"start":3195.303,"end":3214.001,"text":"前二項終止執行再生醫療是醫療機構應與中央主管機關鎖定期限內檢視內容包括組織細胞、檢體及執行記錄之後續處理計畫書報中央主管機關核定與核定後應依後續處理計畫書執行宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第27條"},{"start":3219.437,"end":3246.825,"text":"第二十七條醫療機構執行第八條第一項第二款或第十二條之或第十二條第一項之再生技術應有發生不良反應致重大傷害或死亡之救急措施其方式範圍及其他應遵行事項由中央主管機關公告之其項救急措施等以投保相關責任保險為之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第六章"},{"start":3247.352,"end":3273.478,"text":"第六章法則宣讀完畢。照審查會章名通過,請宣讀第28條。第28條,非醫療機構有項鍊起行之意者,除新台幣200萬元以上、二件萬元以下罰款,依違反第11條規定執行再生醫療,若違反第21條第二項規定,為再生醫療廣告,有項鍊起行之意者,除新台幣20萬元以上、200萬元以下罰款,"},{"start":3274.338,"end":3300.211,"text":"一、違反第7條規定執行再生醫療前未進行或未完成人體試驗二、違反第8條第三項規定未經中央主管機關核准執行同條第一項第一款之再生技術三、違反第14條第二項後段規定未經許可執行細胞操作四、違反第18條第一項前段規定未經許可設置細胞保存庫五、違反第21條第一項規定"},{"start":3302.012,"end":3319.672,"text":"非經核准執行再生醫療之醫療機構非保存組織細胞之細胞保存公務設置機構或非受中央主管機關所託辦理第6條第一項第4款章目及推廣人體組織細胞提供者刊物章目廣告"},{"start":3320.333,"end":3334.998,"text":"六、違反第21條第二項規定非進而轉執行再生醫療是醫療機構為再生醫療廣告其違反第22條第二項規定未經核准或未向傳播業者提取核准文件"},{"start":3335.618,"end":3361.468,"text":"刊播廣告或未經核准編根緣和轉資廣告內容或刊播方式有第一項各款或前項第三款規定啟行者處以該項規定處罰位並得公布其名稱有第一項第一款違規之啟行令得默入其執行再生醫療專設備及再生製劑宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第29條"},{"start":3363.223,"end":3383.341,"text":"第二水準條有效列前嫌疑者處心臺B20萬元與生物200萬元相伴婚,並另獻其改善,進行為改善者按次處罰至改善為止。一、違反第14條第4項鎖定辦法中有關細胞操作之方法、管制措施、運銷或許可事項變革之規定。"},{"start":3384.162,"end":3401.563,"text":"二、違反第17條或第18條第一項規定未確保提供找知合適性。三、違反第18條第二項鎖定辦法中有關保存項目許可事項變更,應具備偵測時設備、品質管理、費用收取、退費或商業運用利益。"},{"start":3402.143,"end":3417.616,"text":"回饋之規定四、違反第22條第3項規定刊播已廢止核准經令立即停止刊播或經禁止繼續刊播這廣告五、違反第22條第4項鎖定辦法中有關廣告刊播地點之規定"},{"start":3418.777,"end":3436.286,"text":"六、委本庭22條第5項規定刊播第8條第1項第一管制再生技術廣告其委本庭23條第1項規定刊播未清核准、已於核准事項不符、已廢止核准、經另立即停止刊播或經禁止繼續刊播之廣告"},{"start":3437.407,"end":3459.8,"text":"一、第一項規定的令限其改善改善期間或藉其未改善者的令停止已佈貨全部細胞操作及保存其進行重大有損害病人生命、身體或健康之事時會有損害之餘者並得非准其已佈貨全部許可宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第30條"},{"start":3461.397,"end":3476.286,"text":"第三十條醫療紀錄違反第十二條第一項規定未經核准及單期執行再生技術或使用中央主管機關指定之再生製劑處新台幣10萬元以上100萬元相反昏並得公佈其名稱"},{"start":3477.146,"end":3494.423,"text":"有下列且行之一者﹐處心隔壁﹐10萬元已收100萬元下方還﹐並令限期改善﹐進行為改善者﹐按次處罰至改善為止。一、違反第12條﹐第3項所定辦法中有關討準事項﹐變更、費用收取或退分之規定。二、"},{"start":3495.163,"end":3523.4,"text":"違反第27條第一項規定無救濟措施或其措施未符合中央主管機關公共之規定有前線的第一款規定執行者除以該項規定處罰位並得公布其名稱依第二項規定的另一限制改善改善期間或藉其為改善者得另停止一部或全部再生醫療執行作業其情節重大有損害病人、生命、身體或健康之事實或有損害治癒者"},{"start":3524.02,"end":3527.663,"text":"並得費準期一般或全部核准實銷。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":3532.711,"end":3560.217,"text":"第31條有下列前行追診除新台幣5萬元上50萬元相關款一、以第9條規定之方式進行涉及胚胎或胚胎幹細胞之再生醫療研究二、執行再生醫療之醫師未符合中央主管機關議題13條後段規定公告之資格三、違反第14條第4項鎖定辦法中有關細胞操作人員資格之規定四、違反第12條第2項鎖定辦法中"},{"start":3562.677,"end":3582.956,"text":"有關細胞保存庫人員資格訊規定五違反第19條第1項規定提供者非為有異性能力出產的人六違反第23條第2項規定未依規定期限保存資料或保存資料不全宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第32條"},{"start":3584.844,"end":3606.03,"text":"第三則條有下列期刑之一者除新台幣5萬元剩50萬元相反還並另一限其改善即其未改善者按次處罰至改善為止一、違反第14條第4項鎖定辦法中有關細胞操作人員應完成相關訓練之規定二、違反第15條第1項規定執行暫時醫療檢未完相關說明"},{"start":3609.691,"end":3637.833,"text":"三、違反第15條第二項規定為於執行再生醫療前取得同意書四、為依第16條第一項規定製作介入、保存或登錄諮詢系統五、記錄內容為包括第16條第二項鎖定事項六、違反第19條第二項規定為於取得組織細胞前獲得提供者之書面同意或為依同條第三項之第六項有關同意權行使之規定辦理"},{"start":3639.014,"end":3657.586,"text":"七、委議第20條第一項規定與取得同意前告知該項所列事項八、違反第20條第二項鎖定辦法中有關告知方式程序之規定九、違反第23條第三項規定規避防禦或拒絕提供接受委託看陌生廣告文件資料"},{"start":3658.627,"end":3673.881,"text":"十、未依第24條第一項鎖定期限提出結果報告十一、結果報告內容未包括第24條第二項鎖定事項十二、違反第25條前段規定發生嚴重不良反應未為通報"},{"start":3674.642,"end":3700.813,"text":"霍威依等同條後段鎖定辦法規定通報。十三、未遵行中央主管機關一第26條第一項規定,所為停止或終止執行再生醫療全部或一部之命令。十四、違反第26條第二項規定,未事先申請同意而自行停止或終止經合轉資再生醫療。十五、違反第26條第三項規定,未檢區後續處理計畫書報中央主管機關特定,"},{"start":3704.594,"end":3711.178,"text":"霍瑞依合併之後續處理計畫書執行宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過臺灣民眾黨黨團提案第33條不予採納請宣讀第33條第33條本法所定法環與司令醫療機構處罰其負責醫師與醫療法人設定是醫療機構處罰醫療法人宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第7章"},{"start":3733.615,"end":3759.702,"text":"第七項負責宣讀完畢照審查會章明通過委員謝衣鳯等提案第16條、第13條均不予採納請宣讀第34條第34條本法設計系則由中央主管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第35條第35條本法設計日期由行政院定之宣讀完畢"},{"start":3761.482,"end":3786.589,"text":"照審查會條文通過報告委員會全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議我們現在請宣讀經過二讀之條文再生醫療法第一章總則第一條為確保再生醫療之安全、品質及有效性維護病人權益及醫療倫理特制定本法"},{"start":3788.277,"end":3817.343,"text":"第二條本法所設主管機關在中央委衛生福利部在直銷室為直銷室政府在縣市為縣市政府第三條本法用詞定義如下一、再生醫療只利用基因、細胞及其衍生物用以治療、修復或替換人體細胞組織及器官之治劑或技術二、再生醫療治劑以下簡稱再生治劑只含有基因、細胞及其衍生物供人體使用之治劑"},{"start":3818.183,"end":3841.882,"text":"三、再生醫療技術以下簡稱再生技術僅於人體執行再生醫療之技術但下列技術不包括在內一、書寫二、使用血液製劑三、骨髓造血幹細胞移植、周邊血造血幹細胞移植四、人工生殖五、洗腦精中優主管機關供購之技術"},{"start":3845.849,"end":3863.748,"text":"寫《再生醫療人體試驗》以下簡稱人體試驗指教育學院或經中央主管機關統一之醫療機構以發現或證明再生之際或再生技術與臨床藥理之作用或疾病治療為目的而對受試者人體所為之研究"},{"start":3864.429,"end":3891.258,"text":"五、再生醫療細胞保存庫以下簡稱細胞保存庫只為再生醫療所需保存、處理或提供人體組織細胞或其衛生物質場所或設施六、再生醫療生技醫藥公司只生技醫藥產業依公司法順利研發製造或受託開發製造與再生醫療相關製品或技術之公司"},{"start":3894.113,"end":3915.489,"text":"第四條,再生醫療之執行應遵守《再生醫療倫理規範》其內容由中央主管機關公告之中央主管機關一年禮定《再生醫療發展政策及推動計畫》並定期檢討修正以推動再生醫療各級主管機關得要求相關機關各學校法人或團體協助檢証計畫之推動"},{"start":3919.673,"end":3947.929,"text":"第5條 中央主管機關應祖存再生醫療審議會以下簡訊審議會知委員若干人就應要申請倫理法律與其他相關專業學者專家及並有團體品牌兼職由衛生福利部部長或部長就委員中指定人擔任召集人請向審議會辦理下列再生醫療事項一、發展創新及推動政策之諮"},{"start":3948.909,"end":3968.667,"text":"二、正確知識及觀念宣導之諮詢。三、病人安全及醫療品質提升之諮詢。四、人才培育推動之諮詢。五、研究發展及角力補助之諮詢審議。六、再生知識及再生技術關聯之諮詢。七、和與再生知識有復活訊號之審議。"},{"start":3970.208,"end":3988.924,"text":"八、執行全項評估則諮詢、九、其他再生醫療相關事項則諮詢。第一項審議會之組成委員資格、議事利益迴避及其他應遵行事項之變法由中央主管機關定之。第一項審議會任意性別委員不得少於委員總數三分之一。"},{"start":3991.26,"end":4012.562,"text":"第6條 中央主管機關等委託其他政府機關各醫療機構、學術研究機構、學校護法人辦理下列事項必要時得捐助設立財團法人為之一、特定細胞提供走資、篩選與其細胞之處理、保存及提供二、高技術性組織細胞之處理及製造"},{"start":4014.324,"end":4035.985,"text":"三、種原細胞之疏及其保存、四、人體組織細胞提供支撐募集推廣、五、其他配合政府推動再生醫療相關政策支持項、其向其他政府機關構、醫療機構、學術研究機構、學校或法人之委託方式、資格條件由中央主管機關公告之。"},{"start":4038.567,"end":4057.301,"text":"第二章 再生醫療人體試驗及研究第七條 醫療機構執行再生技術前除有第八條第一項規定其行外應進行並完成人體試驗第八條 醫療機構執行再生技術由項列進行之因者免完成人體試驗"},{"start":4058.502,"end":4082.997,"text":"一、治療為其生命或嚴重渲染之疾病且國內尚無釋料之藥品、醫療器材或醫療技術二、本法施行前醫療機構經中央主管機關核准執行之再生技術且向第一管制條件申請案例書限制、倫理規範及其他因遵循事項由中央主管機關公告之但其治療應排除異種細胞組織"},{"start":4086.079,"end":4103.531,"text":"醫療機構執行第1項第1款再生技術前依主案向中央主管機關申請核准水平為之醫療機構執行再生技術由第1項第1款執行者免依再生醫療這些條例規定申請藥品、許可證或有付款許可"},{"start":4106.124,"end":4135.378,"text":"第9條 再生醫療研究涉及胚胎或胚胎幹細胞不得以下列方式為之一、以人工受精方式製造胚胎二、製造雜交體三、以其他物種細胞和植入去核之人類卵細胞四、繁衍研究用胚胎五、將研究用胚胎植入人類或其他物種之子宮六、製造或繁衍具有人類生殖細胞之親核物種"},{"start":4136.479,"end":4141.067,"text":"請其他經營中央主管機關公告盡旨知材料或研究方式"},{"start":4146.775,"end":4168.553,"text":"第10條 中央主管機關或中央目的事業主管機關等就再生療程研究發展給予獎勵或補助其向獎勵或補助之對象、條件、申請程序、獎勵或補助方式、審查精準、非準期其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關或向中央目的事業主管機關定之"},{"start":4170.427,"end":4192.47,"text":"第三章:「再生醫療諸執行。」第十一條:「非醫療機構不得執行再生醫療。」第十二條:「醫療機構執行再生技術或使用中央主管機關決定之再生製劑應向中央主管機關申請核准、經核選後並向職教室縣市主管機關登記、使得為之。」"},{"start":4193.15,"end":4216.068,"text":"中央主管機關等就其相之核准、委任所屬機關或委託其他機關購物法人團體辦理。第一項再生制計劃指定申請核准之條件與程序、核准效情與展言、廢止核准事項變更、費用審查與收取、兌費及其他應遵行事項之變法由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":4217.97,"end":4242.592,"text":"第13條,執行再生醫療之一是因爲該疾病相關領域之專科醫師其資格由中央主管機關公告之。第14條,醫療機構執行再生技術有細胞培養、處理及保存以向病患細胞操作必要者,得自行或委託再生醫療升級醫藥公司或醫療機構以向病患受託機構為之。"},{"start":4244.113,"end":4267.532,"text":"其向執行細胞操作之醫療機構、受託機構、免疫醫藥事法之規定取得藥品製造業許可執照,其執行細胞操作應經中央主管機關查核及許可後,使得為之。中央主管機關的就其向之查核、許可及其他相關管理事項、委任所屬機關或委託其他機關購物法人團體辦理。"},{"start":4270.874,"end":4293.127,"text":"第二項醫療機構、收託機構執行細胞操作之方法實施、設備管制措施、運銷操作人員資格與因完成之相關訊息、查核訊卡之申請條件與程序、核准效期與檢研、肺疹訊卡事項變更及其他因遵循事項之辦法由中央主管計劃定制"},{"start":4295.103,"end":4322.979,"text":"第15條醫療機構執行再生醫療前應向病人或其法定代理人、配偶、親屬或關係人說明可能效果與不良反映、費用、救濟措施及相關必要事項醫療機構執行再生醫療前應經病人或其法定代理人、配偶、親屬或關係人同意擬具同意事項使得為之請向同意書應具配置內容由中央主管機關定之"},{"start":4325.219,"end":4346.152,"text":"第16條醫療機構使用中央主管機關決定之再生製劑或執行再生技術應製作記錄至少保存15年並就中央主管機關決定之項目登錄於中央主管機關建設之資訊系統但未成年者之記錄至少應保存進行成年後15年"},{"start":4347.273,"end":4359.221,"text":"其相記錄內容應包括使用或執行之日期、場所、程序使用之再生之際與執行之再生技術、嚴重不良事件及其他僅中央主管機關指定之事項。"},{"start":4361.363,"end":4380.16,"text":"第4章 再生醫療組織細胞管理第17條 醫療機構或受託機構執行細胞操作除組織細胞取自經中央主管機關許可設置之細胞保存過程外應確保人體組織細胞來源提供者之合適性"},{"start":4382.423,"end":4402.352,"text":"第18條細胞保存庫這設置應經中央主管機關許可其保存人體組織細胞的收取費用並應確保組織細胞來源提供者居合適性其向細胞保存庫設置之資格申請條件與程序保存項目、須可效監獄展延"},{"start":4403.232,"end":4420.986,"text":"廢紙、稅稿、事項、變更、因區培植設施設備與人員資格、品質管理、費用審查與收取、兌費商業運用、利益回饋及其他應遵行時常治變法由中央主管機關定製。且條集第一項提供者和事項之判定條件申選"},{"start":4421.867,"end":4435.3,"text":"此事項目及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。中央主管機關得就第一項之許可及其他相關管理事項或是所屬機關或委託其他機關購物法人團體辦理。"},{"start":4437.867,"end":4463.135,"text":"第十小條醫療機構或細胞保存庫設置機構取代再生醫療組織細胞來源之提供者因有意思能力之成年人危險但僅有益於治療特定人口區且未能以其他對象取代者不在此限其上之組織細胞應與取得前獲得提供者之書面同意其上書面同意"},{"start":4463.675,"end":4483.886,"text":"提供者為限聚行為能力人或受輔助宣告之人時應得其本人及法定代理人或輔助人書面同意為無行為能力人或受監護宣告之人時應得其法定代理人或監護人書面同意提供者為無意思能力之成年人"},{"start":4485.526,"end":4497.174,"text":"未能依前線規定辦理時應按教練順序之人緣取得其輸液同意一、配偶二、成年子女三、父母四、輸液姐妹五、祖父母"},{"start":4498.689,"end":4520.325,"text":"其項第二款是第五款,過令人員所要之書面同意,得以一人為之。同意順序之人,亦似表示不與之時,亦與無亦似能力之成的人同居親屬為先,其同居親屬有二臨上者,亦年長者為先,無同居親屬者,亦年長者為先。"},{"start":4520.945,"end":4549.367,"text":"第三項、第四項規定再生醫療組織細胞來源之提供者為限制行為能力人、受輔助宣告之人、無行為能力人、受監控或無宣告之人或無意思能力之成年人取得之書面同意應經公正實行效力本條及第20條書面同意之內容得以完整呈現並於日後舉出公查驗者得以電子文件為之"},{"start":4551.448,"end":4579.594,"text":"第20條一、檢調規定取得同意且應購之下列事項一、機構名稱二、組織細胞之取得方式可能產生致富作用與併發症發生率與處理方法禁忌、限制及其他相關應配合事項三、提供者合適性判定條件四、限於組織細胞之後續處置或可能之使用範圍五、對提供行為之補助內容及方式"},{"start":4580.214,"end":4608.073,"text":"六、後續追蹤內容及方式：七、退出宗旨及宗旨之權利：八、取得組織細胞過程：發生不良反應之醫療證戶：五、長期處理：九、預計可能演算專利及歸屬十個人資料保密措施：十一、其他經中央主管機關公告這事項：十二、同意這個告知方式：十三、程序及其他應遵行事項之辦法：十四、由中央主管機關定之"},{"start":4610.29,"end":4632.825,"text":"第5章 監督級救濟第21條 招募再生醫療組織細胞提供展示廣告以象徵招募廣告除招募再生智界組織細胞提供展示廣告現由藥商委之外以由經合轉執行再生醫療之醫療機構或保存組織細胞之保存"},{"start":4634.187,"end":4653.167,"text":"細胞之細胞保存或設置機構或受中央主管機關所託辦理第6條第一項第4款專務及推廣人體組織細胞提供之其他政府機關各醫療機構、學術研究機構、學校管理或捐助設立之財團法人為之違憲"},{"start":4655.359,"end":4682.572,"text":"再生醫療之廣告現由經合轉執行再生醫療之醫療機構為之再生致敬廣告依用事法用品廣告之規定。第二十二條注目廣告及再生醫療廣告以下並稱廣告不得將醫療效能有廣大不實或無科學實證之標示宣傳。前線廣告廣告者應於看摸前將其內容、看摸方式、"},{"start":4683.132,"end":4698.154,"text":"康波文件及影音錄製之內容向中央主管機關監製之資訊系統登錄。經中央主管機關或其委任委託之機關過或法人核准委託傳播業者康波、"},{"start":4699.095,"end":4725.312,"text":"並應提具核准文件後,誰得為之。刊剝期間未經核准,不得偏更原核准廣告內容或刊剝方式。指向市或縣市主管機關發現廣告內容有違反第一項或前項規定時,應立即停止刊剝並限其改善。即其未改善者應禁止其繼續刊剝,並通知前項至中央主管機關。機關購貨法人廢止其核准。"},{"start":4726.172,"end":4742.857,"text":"第一項廣告得看摸與不得看摸之文字、言詞、圖畫或其他內容、專目對象、看摸方式、看摸定點及其他因遵行事項之變法由中央主管機關定之。第八條第一項第一款是再生技術不得廣告"},{"start":4745.342,"end":4757.314,"text":"第23條 傳播業者不得刊播未經核准與何院事項目符以廢止核准經令立即停止刊播或經禁止繼續刊播式廣告"},{"start":4759.142,"end":4785.404,"text":"傳播業者介紹委託開摸廣告因此廣告之日期6個月內保存委託開摸廣告之內容、委託開摸機構名稱、地址、電話及其條第二項之核准文件影本資料委託開摸者為醫療機構者並應保存開業執照字號主管機關要求提供前項文件資料時傳播業者不得規避、妨礙或拒絕"},{"start":4787.813,"end":4809.025,"text":"第24條,醫療機構執行第8條、第1項及第12條、第1項再生技術者應於每年度終了後6個月內或中央主管機關通知日期限內提出結果報告。期限報告內容應包括案例數、治療效果、物料事件及其他中央主管機關指令之事項。"},{"start":4810.286,"end":4816.792,"text":"中央主管機關應每年公開第一項醫療機構之治療效果及統計之醫療品質資訊以維護民眾權益"},{"start":4821.963,"end":4841.699,"text":"第二十五條醫療機構使用中央主管機關指定之再生製劑或執行再生技術應建立強勤追蹤機制發生嚴重不良反應時應通報中央主管機關其通報專期限方設備容積其他應遵循事項指定法由中央主管機關定制"},{"start":4843.22,"end":4871.839,"text":"第26條,醫療機構有相應影響病人權益安全執行之一者,中央主管機關得令其停止或終止執行再生醫療之全部或一部分公告之。依違反第8條第二項,中央主管機關公告應遵行之事項,或願依第12條第一項規定,經中央主管機關核准職員人執行再生醫療,讓不了事件發生案例數或嚴重度顯有異常。"},{"start":4873.42,"end":4897.671,"text":"三、未依前條前項規定進行通報四、執行細胞操作未符合第14條第4項鎖定辦法之規定五、其他影響病人權益安全之請示醫療機構自行停止或終止經議第12條第1項規定和轉至再生醫療權募獲一部者因事件續名理由向中央主管機關申請同意"},{"start":4898.972,"end":4915.531,"text":"請向中指執行再生醫療是醫療機構應於中央主管機關所定期限內檢訊內容包括組織細胞前提及執行記錄之後續處理計劃書報中央主管機關核定於核定後應依後續處理計劃書執行"},{"start":4920.031,"end":4941.352,"text":"第二十七條醫療機構執行第八條第一項提案款或第十二條第一項之再生技術應有發生不了反應至重大傷害或死亡之救濟措施其分析範圍及其他應遵行事項由中央主管機關公告之其項救濟措施等以投保相關責任保險為之"},{"start":4944.008,"end":4966.413,"text":"第六章 法則 第28條非醫療機構有項鍊前行之一者除薪台幣200萬元以上二屆萬元相關婚一為本地11條規定執行再生醫療二為本地21條第二項規定為再生醫療廣告有項鍊前行之一者除薪台幣20萬元以上200萬元相關婚"},{"start":4967.333,"end":4983.666,"text":"一、為本地7條規定執行再生醫療檢未進行或未完成人體試驗二、為本地8條第三項規定未經中央主管機關調整執行同條第一項第一款之再生技術三、為本地14條第二項後段規定"},{"start":4985.347,"end":5014.155,"text":"魏金許可執行細胞操作四、違反第18條第一項前段規定魏金許可設置細胞保存庫五、違反第20條第一項規定魏金核准執行再生醫療之醫療機構非保存組織細胞之細胞保存庫設置機構或非受中央主管機關所託辦理第六條第一項第四款招募其推廣人體組織細胞提供者刊播招募廣告"},{"start":5014.835,"end":5031.266,"text":"六、違反第21條第二項規定非經核准執行再生醫療之醫療機構為再生醫療廣告其違反第22條第二項規定未經核准或未向全部業者提取核准文件刊布廣告"},{"start":5032.126,"end":5051.503,"text":"顧慰經合轉變跟緣合轉生廣告內容或刊布方式有第一項更款的或請向第三款規定啟行者處以一項規定處盤位並得公布其名稱有第一項第一款違規之啟行令得募入前執行再生醫療之設備及再生製劑"},{"start":5054.912,"end":5075.59,"text":"第二十九條有下列前行之一者除新台幣二十萬元與上二百萬元相關款並另一限期改善即其未改善者按次處罰之改善為之一、違反第十四條第四項鎖定辦法中有關細胞操作之方法管制措施應向獲取改善項變更之規定"},{"start":5076.471,"end":5085.205,"text":"二、違反第17條或第18條第1項規定未確保提供者之合適性。三、違反第18條第2項鎖定辦法中有關保存項目許可事項變更,依據被專審時設備、品質管理、"},{"start":5091.935,"end":5112.584,"text":"費用收取、退費或商業運用利益回饋之規定。四、違本第22條第3項規定,刊摸已廢止核准,經另立即停止刊摸,或經禁止繼續刊摸之廣告。五、違本第22條第4項所定辦法中有關廣告刊摸地點之規定。六、違本第22條第5項規定,"},{"start":5114.525,"end":5130.098,"text":"刊播第8條第1項的第1款是再生技術廣告其違反第23條第1項規定刊播未清核准與核准事項不符以廢止核准經令人立即停止刊播或經禁准繼續刊播式廣告"},{"start":5131.67,"end":5149.566,"text":"一、第一項關於另一項及改善改善期間或藉其為改善者的另一停止移步或全部細胞操作及保存其情節重大有損害病人生命、身體或健康知識時或有損害治癒者、病毒肺炎其移步或全部許可"},{"start":5152.202,"end":5167.297,"text":"第30條,醫療機構違反第12條第一項規定,勿進口準其登記主行再生技術或使用中央主管機關指定之再生証據,處心疼悲10微元上100微元下半環,並到公募其名稱。"},{"start":5168.118,"end":5186.084,"text":"有項列情形之一者,處心條幣10萬元以上、100萬元相關還,並令現金改善,即其未改善者按次處罰至改善為止。一、違反第12條第3項鎖定辦法中有關核准事項變更、費用收取或退費之規定。二、"},{"start":5186.804,"end":5208.012,"text":"違反第27條第一項規定無救濟措施或前措施未符合中央主管機關公告之規定有前項第一款規定期刑者除以該項規定處罰外並得公布其名稱依第二項規定另一項即改善改善期間或進行未改善者得令停止一部或全部再生醫療執行作業"},{"start":5209.072,"end":5218.321,"text":"其情節若讓有損害病人生命、身體或健康之事時或有損害症與症、病毒非準期已不獲全部核准事項。"},{"start":5221.874,"end":5242.182,"text":"第31條有效率進行之一者除薪台幣5萬元、剩50萬元相關款。一、以第9條規定之方式進行涉及胚胎或胚胎幹細胞之再生醫療研究,讓執行再生醫療是醫師未符合中央入管機關。一、第13條後段規定公告之資格。"},{"start":5242.942,"end":5268.343,"text":"三、違反第14條第4項鎖定辦法中有關細胞操作人員資格之規定四、違反第10條條第2項鎖定辦法中有關細胞保存過人員資格之規定五、違反第19條第1項規定提供者分為有醫生能力之成員人六、違反第23條第2項規定為依規定期限保存資料或保存資料不全"},{"start":5271.363,"end":5289.184,"text":"第三十二條有下令其行政院長出行台幣5萬元以上50萬元相關款被令限期改善其其未改善者按次處罰至改善為之一、違反第14條第4項鎖定辦法中有關計劃操作人員應完成相關訓練之規定"},{"start":5290.605,"end":5310.846,"text":"二、違反第15條第一項規定、執行再生醫療前未違相關說明。三、違反第15條第二項規定、未予執行再生醫療前取得同意書。四、為第16條第一項規定製作記錄、保存或登錄資訊系統。五、記錄內容為包括第16條第二項鎖定事項。"},{"start":5312.347,"end":5331.528,"text":"六、違反第19條第二項規定為予取得組織細胞前或等提供者致書面同意或為依同條第三項至第六項有關同意權行審之規定辦理。七、為依第20條第一項規定予取得同意前共申該項所列事項。"},{"start":5332.569,"end":5354.719,"text":"八、違反第20條第二項鎖定辦法中有關告知方式程序之規定。九、違反第23條第三項規定規定否認或拒絕提供接受委託看陌生廣告文件資料。十、為依第24條第一項鎖定期限提出結果報告。十一、結果報告內容未包括第24條第二項鎖定事項。"},{"start":5357.802,"end":5376.827,"text":"十二、違反第25條前段規定發生嚴重不良反映未為通報或依依同條後段鎖定辦法規定通報十三、未遵行中央主管機關議第26條第一項規定所謂停止或終止執行再生醫療全部或一部份命令"},{"start":5377.427,"end":5395.843,"text":"十四、違反第26條第2項規定為事先申請同意為自行停滯或中止經和轉至再生醫療十五、違反第26條第3項規定為檢訊後續處理計劃書報中央主管機關核定或願依核定之後續處理計劃書執行"},{"start":5399.847,"end":5426.249,"text":"第三十三條本法所定法環與私立醫療機構處罰其負責醫師與醫療法人設立之醫療機構處罰醫療法人第七章負責第三十四條本法實行卸責由中央主管機構定之第三十五條本法實行日期由行政院定之宣讀完畢"},{"start":5428.12,"end":5447.094,"text":"報告委員會方采本案要求進行三讀國民黨黨團提出相同提議我們列入公報記錄報告委員會三讀條文已經宣讀完畢請問院會有沒有文字修正沒有文字修正我們現在決議《再生醫療法》制定通過"},{"start":5452.456,"end":5475.8,"text":"我們現在繼續處理審查會所作之附帶決議請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容通過附帶決議六項一、有鑒於本法之立法目的為取代現行特管法原要求主管機關針對目前特管法已核准執行之再生技術訂定落日條款二、衛生福利部應嚴格規範於醫療機構內執行之再生醫療技術於最小"},{"start":5481.383,"end":5499.958,"text":"操作下執行,避免出現規避查驗登記程序,品白讓患者付出昂貴醫療費用,卻僅得到療效未經證實之治療等違背醫學倫理之狀況。三、要求中央主管機關參考美國《適用權法案》明確規範醫療機構適用此類技術時,"},{"start":5503.661,"end":5521.93,"text":"需通過嚴謹病情評估與治療方法審查之辦法是本法正式施行後特定醫療技術檢查檢驗醫療儀器施行及或使用管理辦法第二章第一節細胞治療技術及公告廢止"},{"start":5524.042,"end":5547.376,"text":"有關本法第五條審議會之辦理事項審議諮詢之規定主管機關應訂出相關辦法明確規範上述事項確保審議會之運作以及病人權益六、有關本法所稱再生治劑有付款許可之審議系審查有付款許可之再生治劑其整體"},{"start":5548.913,"end":5563.44,"text":"風險、效益及付款要求考量疾病及生命或嚴重失能之要件符合性與確屬有益於病人之治療選擇宣讀完畢報告委員會請問請問院會有無異議"},{"start":5567.83,"end":5578.442,"text":"沒有異議我們就照案通過報告委員會現在完成立法程序後委員登記發言我們截止登記首先我們請登記第一號邱議瑩委員發言"},{"start":5600.578,"end":5620.916,"text":"主席、各位委員同仁今天是一個令我心情感到激動的一天2015年臺灣有一名鼻咽癌四期的患者在國發會的聯署平臺政策聯署平臺上面發起癌症免疫細胞治療療法的修正法案"},{"start":5622.157,"end":5648.12,"text":"短短的8天之內就完成5000人的連署這位癌友他希望臺灣的癌友能夠接受免疫細胞療法能夠讓政府正式這個法案的推動可惜他不幸在2016年就過世了從2015年我發現這個法案的連署開始從那一天我也正式投入了癌症細胞免疫療法的法案的演繹"},{"start":5649.966,"end":5668.006,"text":"其後在2018年的9月衛福部先行通過了特管辦法允許可以有6項低風險的自體細胞的治療一路一直到今天從特管辦法到今天的再生醫療法的修正我們花了將近10年的時間"},{"start":5669.387,"end":5690.805,"text":"這一路走來我要謝謝衛福部許多的同仁包括陳時中部長、薛瑞元部長、石崇良署長、吳秀美署長、劉悅平司長以及過去的陳建仁院長、陳耀昌醫師等等的專家的協助還有陪伴著我在這個修法過程裡頭我們一路"},{"start":5692.472,"end":5708.989,"text":"不放棄所有的委員同仁包括這一次的召委黃秀芳委員、王振旭委員、蘇巧慧委員、邱太元委員、林靜儀委員等等甚至陳昭芝委員我們也一路都在委員會裡頭花了兩天的時間來密切審查"},{"start":5709.87,"end":5723.438,"text":"我必須再一次謝謝大家對於再生醫療法的支持甚至我也期待再生醫療法的通過之後對於很多有需要的病人其實他們多了一種選擇讓台灣"},{"start":5746.834,"end":5752.498,"text":"好,謝謝邱議瑩委員的發言接下來我們請登記第二號陳金威委員發言"},{"start":5765.444,"end":5783.044,"text":"主席、各位國人、各位委員、同事們還有媒體朋友大家早安今天作為一名立法委員也是一位第一線的臨床醫師我非常榮幸可以見證再生醫療雙法通過的歷史時刻"},{"start":5784.465,"end":5805.711,"text":"臺灣的高品質醫療聞名全球被國際社會廣泛認可前瞻醫療的表現在世界上名列前茅近年來隨著細胞治療的技術發展的精進再生醫療技術突飛猛進在組織的修復上還有慢性疾病治療都有很大的潛力"},{"start":5806.957,"end":5832.575,"text":"癌症長久以來一直是國人的主要死因也是許多家庭破裂的理由許多病患和家庭在面對癌症和其他罕見疾病時把希望寄託在這項前沿科技上然而之前因為法規的不完善許多人被迫前往國外尋求治療面臨著巨大的風險和不確定性"},{"start":5833.616,"end":5848.394,"text":"這不僅僅是一場身體和疾病的抗戰更是對心理和經濟狀況的雙重折磨因此在第11屆國會的第一個會期我們加緊腳步成功三讀通過了《再生醫療雙法》"},{"start":5849.736,"end":5864.14,"text":"未來將有更全面的法規和監管機制來保障其安全性、品質和有效性所以國人之後面對重症、難症、罕見的疾病多了一個嘗試的機會"},{"start":5866.141,"end":5889.613,"text":"最後本席在這裡由衷的感謝所有的官員、委員也衷心的祝福每一位患者都能安全的、及時的接受到進步的醫療服務協助重新找回他們人生的希望謝謝大家謝謝陳金威委員的發言接下來我們請登記第三號羅廷瑋委員發言"},{"start":5907.208,"end":5928.787,"text":"謝主席歷經立法院9、10、11屆再生醫療雙法今天終於要準備刪讀我們現在通過的再生醫療法已經刪讀我擔任議員時就很關心再生醫療法的進度因為再生醫療是所有承受疾病困擾的病友們所盼望的治療方式"},{"start":5929.708,"end":5958.139,"text":"可惜過去兩屆我們看到許多的立法委員正在努力當時我不是國會議員我無能為力因此本屆立委報導後我隨即送出再生醫療雙法的版本因為我知道病友不能等不能再等下一個八年本次閃讀強化了對醫療機構的監管確保只有獲得政府認可的醫療機構才能執行這些先進的高科技治療"},{"start":5959.119,"end":5970.491,"text":"每一項再生醫療的實施都必須遵循嚴格的道德準則和科學的證據確保每一步都是以病人的安全與最佳利益為優先"},{"start":5972.359,"end":5996.674,"text":"這些法律的制定與實施將促進再生醫療技術的研究以及開發並加速臨床的運用從而改善病人的生活品質全球生醫科技迅速的變革中我們透過立法加強了台灣在國際醫療舞台的這個競爭力這不僅展現了我們對創新的承諾也確保了我們對醫療環境"},{"start":5999.275,"end":6027.979,"text":"以及能在倫理和科學的嚴格標準下運行今天三讀立法完成也是我們向全世界證明台灣是生醫、科技創舉的一個牽制讓我們攜手合作共創健康的未來這個過程當中有許多人共同的努力今天我們齊聚一堂也非常感謝我們在座不分藍綠白、立法委員以及我的團隊大家一起努力"},{"start":6032.044,"end":6038.088,"text":"謝謝羅廷瑋委員的發言接下來我們請登記第4號楊瓊英委員發言親愛的韓院長"},{"start":6056.929,"end":6082.659,"text":"以及各位同仁、新衛界的朋友楊瓊瑜發言隨著生醫科技的進速發展目前我們的法令尚未齊全完備的情況之下今天我們能夠通過此法更協助著廣大的需求者能夠得到健康的照護本期在第10屆、第11屆都提出《再生醫療法》以及《再生醫療自治條例》所以讓我們"},{"start":6084.059,"end":6099.853,"text":"整個再生醫療可以來到一個新的階段再生醫療是指利用運用的基因、細胞及其衍生的生物用以治療、修護或者是替換人體的細胞、組織、器官"},{"start":6100.513,"end":6124.683,"text":"可以運用在重度燒燙傷的治療更可以運用在癌症的細胞治療心臟破損的修復等等因此再生醫療可以讓人體的試驗不只是僅介於特管的辦法因此在整個在審議的組織方面在法案當中也可以明定了涵蓋的一、要生計倫理"},{"start":6125.823,"end":6146.785,"text":"法律等相關以及病友團讓再生醫療的審議可以更加的完備因此今天我們通過的這個再生醫療法我們也為了避免姊姊的守護者讓胎兒妹妹的出生是為了要救重症的妹妹的情況發生所以法案當中我們特別明定的"},{"start":6147.505,"end":6174.591,"text":"細胞治療的細胞提供者要以有意識能力的成年人為限排除了胎兒以免爭議因此今天通過的再生醫療法三讀通過之後我們可以確保再生醫療的品質安全同時維護著病人的一個權利讓我國再生醫療發展更加的全面性也希望能夠有更豐碩的一個成果"},{"start":6175.091,"end":6184.205,"text":"擬具擴大運用到臨床的醫劑裡頭讓更多人可以更加的健康安全。"},{"start":6210.182,"end":6237.538,"text":"主席、各位委員同仁大家好再生醫療法及再生醫療治劑條例是與國人健康權益高度相關的法案經過各位委員在衛環委員會嚴謹而且細緻的逐條審查在5月初成功出委員會且具備高度的共識因而無需再協商雖然立法進度在過去幾週"},{"start":6238.84,"end":6256.913,"text":"有過一些波折﹑首信上週院會在朝野共識下再度將再生雙法排入議程並且終於很高興今天完成了三讀相信對於許多長期關心再生醫療發展或是"},{"start":6259.335,"end":6278.821,"text":"迫切需要再生醫療的個人這絕對是十分令人振奮的進展對此也要感謝國民黨團及民眾黨團、朝野一起為福國利民的法案來努力有關再生醫療草案及再生醫療之際條例草案的審查本席"},{"start":6279.961,"end":6300.355,"text":"全程參與回顧上週委員會的審查情形包括各黨派的委員軍出席而且花了非常多的時間針對院版有異議的地方進行討論其中還包括了是否排除異種細胞胎兒是否可作為細胞來源排除人體試驗之條件等對於細胞自備傷者的規範審議會的組成"},{"start":6303.798,"end":6315.726,"text":"劉曉的公開透明等多項內容都進行非常完整的討論那對於一些爭點也經過相關的大家共同確定以後這絕對是一個充分完整具備"},{"start":6316.846,"end":6334.772,"text":"具體、細緻的這個主條審查過程那在這個過程裡面本席也提出了一些修正動議感謝大家共同的努力其中包括對於這個委員會的組成醫藥、生技、倫理、法技並有團體的這個領域都能夠充分的參與再生雙法三讀通過後期待再生醫療成為內總統健康台灣目標的重要一環不僅遵用於"},{"start":6345.833,"end":6367.121,"text":"王骨、關爺皮膚的修復、更擴大應用於重大疾病的治療、期盼優效的降低癌症及疾病的致死率、減少國內疾病對國人影響、保護臺灣人民的健康。再次感謝所有同仁的幫忙。謝謝。謝謝王振旭委員的發言。接下來我們請登記第6號黃秀芳委員發言。"},{"start":6384.258,"end":6399.643,"text":"院長、所有立法院的同仁真的非常的開心今天是再生醫療雙法要三讀通過那我們首先再生醫療法通過三讀通過那我首先要感謝我們所有立法院的同仁"},{"start":6400.363,"end":6411.075,"text":"不分朝野黨派大家一起來支持立法院在未還委員會在5月初的時候我們就針對再生醫療雙法就經過討論"},{"start":6416.32,"end":6433.034,"text":"再生醫療制計條例草案和再生醫療雙法送出委員會,而且條文完全通過,不需協商,讓重症、癌症、慢性病患可以獲得最新的再生醫療法,守護他們的健康及維護病人的權益。"},{"start":6435.076,"end":6457.227,"text":"2015年八仙樂園粉塵爆炸事件衛福部同意專案輸入日本已上市的自體皮膚細胞培養產品供嚴重燒燙傷的病人治療為台灣首度使用細胞產品起算已經9年了我們好不容易將各方的意見整合、充分討論"},{"start":6459.268,"end":6474.074,"text":"2018年實行細胞治療特管辦法未來規範醫療機構執行的醫療技術同年以規範廠商為主的再生醫療製劑管理條例也以最優先法案送入立法院"},{"start":6475.535,"end":6498.635,"text":"多年的討論依然沒有定案那真的非常的開心就是在這一屆我們可以在委員會有院版的這個版本也有委員的版本在委員會充分的討論那過去台灣積極推動再生醫療早年政府研究再生醫療法規的時候主要是參考日本的雙軌制那一方面是規範跟國際規範"},{"start":6499.756,"end":6500.476,"text":"佳瑋、佳瑋、佳瑋、佳瑋、佳瑋、佳瑋、佳瑋"},{"start":6531.134,"end":6536.426,"text":"謝謝黃秀芳委員的發言接下來我們請登記第7號蘇巧慧委員發言"},{"start":6547.042,"end":6561.682,"text":"主席、各位同仁隨著生物科技進步再生醫療近20年快速發展再生醫療應與傳統化學製劑的性質截然不同再生醫療該如何管理在社會上看法也多有不同因此"},{"start":6562.062,"end":6577.841,"text":"自2018年當時行政院推出《再生醫療相關法案》後總共花了歷經三屆的時間才終於凝聚共識讓《再生醫療二法》三讀通過本席在上屆也有提案其實不只是提案本席也親自參與過公聽會"},{"start":6579.282,"end":6601.367,"text":"甚至在社會上尚有所疑議的時候當時有邱議瑩委員、洪聲翰委員、林靜儀前委員、莊靜成前委員我們一起前往醫事公會全聯會互相交換意見所以本席除了要感謝衛福部以及這三屆所有參與過的委員一起共同努力還要感謝醫事公會全聯會、藥事公會全聯會"},{"start":6604.048,"end":6625.511,"text":"等團體在其中提出許多的想法與觀點才能讓法案今天順利三讀通過在這裡我也想特別向邱議瑩委員致敬大家都知道她曾經是一位癌症的患者她用她親身的經歷今天作為一個立法委員在立法院推動法案"},{"start":6626.312,"end":6643.723,"text":"十年間歷經了多少的挫折、困難但是協調再協調、協調再協調終於在十年後的今天我們等來了法案的三讀我想今天這部法案的通過邱議瑩委員值得社會給她一個掌聲"},{"start":6645.188,"end":6670.278,"text":"所以再生醫療案法通過除了讓病友們能夠獲得更好的治療外也給主管機關更完善的監管作為本席期望在完善的法治下能夠加速醫療與科技的發展升級醫療產業我們一起加油最終受惠的仍然是病友大家加油謝謝蘇巧慧委員的發言接下來請登記第8號陳昭芝委員發言"},{"start":6686.114,"end":6703.604,"text":"我一生都在醫院服務過去30年在癌症醫院工作沒有想到今天可以有機會參與再生醫療雙法的審查並見識並見證它的三讀通過醫療是一項非常進步快速的領域"},{"start":6705.219,"end":6717.597,"text":"對於生命跟疾病的密碼探索造就了科學家、成就了醫療人員更成為人類對抗病魔的關鍵然而任何加諸於人體醫療的"},{"start":6720.213,"end":6721.434,"text":"施政院院長報告施政院長報告"},{"start":6750.653,"end":6775.282,"text":"再生醫療費用非常的昂貴動輒百萬起跳所以對於專業知識相對弱勢的病人或家屬而言究竟最後是一線的希望希望的實現還是有時候可能一場空或是負債身為專業人員我們必須以現有的證據來幫助病人做最不後悔的決定"},{"start":6776.142,"end":6789.195,"text":"這就是醫療良知之所在這也是為什麼我在開宗明義第一條條文當中我堅持要加入除了維護病人權益之外還要加上五個字即醫療倫理的考量我在質詢薛部長的時候我有告訴他"},{"start":6793.94,"end":6810.101,"text":"說希望我們哪一天很老的時候回想起來對於這個進步法案我們基本上是無愧於心那也感謝薛部長跟劉月平司長他們也接受了民眾黨團跟我個人許多專業意見做了很多的刪除"},{"start":6826.176,"end":6829.878,"text":"祝福有需求的病人在兼顧、療效、安全及經濟負擔下都能獲得順利、適當的治療。"},{"start":6841.887,"end":6853.443,"text":"謝謝院長、請各位委員、各位先進我們的再生醫療良法今天會三讀通過現在三讀通過的是再生醫療法"},{"start":6854.656,"end":6876.715,"text":"我們都知道這個法針對醫療方面的重病、寒病、很困難的病用另外一套的生物科技就是細胞療法來處理那麼經過了過去十幾年的時間過去的第九屆、第十屆其實第八屆的尾巴就開始討論"},{"start":6877.976,"end":6906.283,"text":"到今天好不容易通過了其實要恭喜大家我們這一屆的立委雖然前一陣子吵吵鬧鬧但是今天啦等於對台灣的醫療界有一個很大的貢獻那是我們的醫療再生醫療雙法今天都會通通的通過這是第一個要恭喜大家也恭喜台灣人民恭喜台灣的醫療界可是"},{"start":6907.083,"end":6920.35,"text":"我在這裡也要很慎重的提出來到目前為止再生療法健保不給付而商業保險也不知道怎麼付"},{"start":6921.764,"end":6943.24,"text":"換言之,現在通過的這樣的法,大道地地只是富人的再生療法因為非常的貴一般的普羅大眾,特別窮人家得了重病、得了寒病沒有錢來透過這樣的一個再生療法來給他醫治因此"},{"start":6944.298,"end":6965.865,"text":"因此如何的盡快把這個納入健保是未來衛福部很重要的事情我在此呼籲啊 邱太元部長你是輔將你擔任部長沒多久立法院就幫你通過了這麼大部長的一個法案怎麼樣讓健保能夠給付這是大家應該來努力的這樣子窮人才能夠受惠於這樣的一個法案 謝謝"},{"start":6973.709,"end":6978.303,"text":"謝謝賴世寶委員的發言接下來請登記第10號侯孟凱委員發言"},{"start":6989.025,"end":7006.65,"text":"院長各位同仁再生醫療雙法今天將會三讀通過我們說這是一個新紀元更是創未來的共同修法再生醫療雙法討論了將近10年的時間今天三讀通過將會有三大跨世代的意義第一"},{"start":7007.29,"end":7033.212,"text":"對於我們人類的健康追求以及對於生活品質的提升相信都會有大幅的幫助請我想過去到現在大家一直強調再生醫療就是能夠給需要幫助的人一個希望讓生命能夠不只有延續的長度還能有生活品質的寬度再生醫療就是我們下一個世代能夠給予人類健康生活的一個期許跟幫助"},{"start":7033.812,"end":7052.354,"text":"第二、對於社會的進步以及和諧我們民生法案在這一屆第11屆這個會期裡面看到我們各黨團真真正正無論是委員會以及相關的院會都能夠共同來對於國人所需要的一個法案來一起努力"},{"start":7052.834,"end":7079.49,"text":"而這一個會期其實國民黨團也一直在強調再生醫療雙法絕對是我們的優先法案所以在會期開始的時候一直努力的就是希望能夠盡速在第一個會期就能夠讓它三讀通過未來更看到醫療的曙光以及第三對於台灣的生技產業來說這可能會是半導體、機械第三個兆元產業的推動"},{"start":7080.31,"end":7096.98,"text":"我們希望台灣未來的醫療服務、醫療觀光、醫療發展能夠更加的多元就能夠從今天再生醫療雙法的推動讓台灣的人才以及台灣的技術都能夠真真正正的耕留台灣放眼國際最後我們也說"},{"start":7098.901,"end":7124.053,"text":"經歷了四屆的立法院終於能夠在第11屆三讀通過未來包括健保點值、包括人工生殖我們要繼續努力讓健康以及醫療的產業都能夠繼續的改革創新、發揚光大謝謝大家謝謝洪孟凱委員的發言接下來我們請登記第11號謝衣鳳委員發言"},{"start":7138.991,"end":7164.762,"text":"院長、本院同仁大家好今天再生醫療法終於刪讀通過了1997年美國發展了第一個再生醫療製劑的產品利用製體軟骨細胞修復軟骨這樣子的功效造成了大家看到了再生醫療的有效性"},{"start":7165.982,"end":7191.649,"text":"開啟了利用基因來治療遺傳性疾病的方向。2013年,歐洲針對家族性脂蛋白直解酵素缺乏症進行了基因治療。日本在2015年就有條件地核准用自體骨骼肌細胞來修復心臟肌肉或治療心衰竭疾病。"},{"start":7192.469,"end":7213.643,"text":"目前再生醫療對於血液罕見疾病B細胞腫瘤、淋巴腫瘤都有進展以及最近被廣泛討論的腦癌膠質細胞瘤也在台灣通過了第二期的人體試驗不過再生醫療的範疇涉及了"},{"start":7216.926,"end":7228.438,"text":"組織工程或者是細胞療法等非藥物為基礎的治療方式因此在應用層面所涉及的管理問題也比傳統的醫療服務還要複雜"},{"start":7231.781,"end":7260.606,"text":"我在上屆跟本屆都提出了再生醫療法今天立法院三讀通過再生醫療法但是未來還是希望衛福部能做好法官工作因為實在非常複雜以及涉及層面非常的廣泛唯有確保再生醫療的安全與品質才能保障病人的權利謝謝大家"},{"start":7264.888,"end":7269.791,"text":"謝謝謝衣鳯委員的發言。報告會休息10分鐘,現在休息。"},{"start":7314.911,"end":7334.05,"text":"二、討論事項：本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會報告併案審查行政院院長報告"},{"start":7345.503,"end":7349.546,"text":"葛國光、葛國光、葛國光、葛國光、葛國光"},{"start":7387.432,"end":7399.025,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7414.235,"end":7435.432,"text":"董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長"},{"start":7459.65,"end":7462.159,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7472.056,"end":7489.495,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7503.353,"end":7511.424,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7536.934,"end":7553.143,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7559.117,"end":7581.145,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7588.506,"end":7589.21,"text":"委員謝用下道具"},{"start":7624.735,"end":7627.281,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7670.145,"end":7679.847,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7733.649,"end":7733.79,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7762.551,"end":7791.712,"text":"董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長、"},{"start":7833.251,"end":7837.151,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":7911.527,"end":7914.053,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":8231.465,"end":8238.584,"text":"本院會現在繼續開會討論事項第二案《再生醫療自治條例草案》請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":8239.963,"end":8261.877,"text":"本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會分別於113年4月10日、113年5月8日及9日舉行決定委員會議審查本案會議由黃召集委員秀芳擔任主席邀請提案委員說明提案要旨並請衛生福利部部長薛瑞元等列行說明並備質詢與會員於聽取說明及詢談後進行逐條討論完成本案審查並通過附帶決議三項"},{"start":8268.081,"end":8271.984,"text":"原經決議並按寧據審查報告提報院會討論本案與院會進行二讀前不須黨團協商院會討論本案時由黃召集委員秀芳補充說明宣讀完畢"},{"start":8299.361,"end":8322.302,"text":"請宣讀名稱再生醫療治疾條例宣讀完畢照審查會名稱通過第一條第一條 為確保再生醫療治疾之安全、品質及有效性、維護病人權益特製的本條例本條例為規定者依要事法及其他相關法律之規定宣讀完畢第一條 照審查會條文通過第二條"},{"start":8323.035,"end":8348.086,"text":"第二條本條例所稱主管機關在中央委衛生福利部在直轄市為直轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第三條第三條本條例所稱再生醫療製劑只含有基因、細胞及其衛生物供人體使用之製劑其向再生醫療製劑屬要事法第六條規定之藥品宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第四條"},{"start":8348.82,"end":8376.453,"text":"第四條:「再生療治劑分類如下,一、基因治療治劑將從組基因嵌入或輸入人體內以治療預防或診斷疾病致致劑二、細胞治療治劑將細胞或其野生物加工製造以治療預防或診斷疾病致致劑三、組織工程治劑將含有經加工改造之組織或細胞修復再生或替代人體組織器官致致劑"},{"start":8377.633,"end":8403.724,"text":"四、複合製劑將具有醫療器材屬性之結構材料簽合前三款全幕後部分之製劑。宣讀完畢。照審查會條例通過第五條。第五條,再生醫療製劑之販賣業者及製造業者,以向並稱藥商為藥事法第15條第一款之藥品販賣業者,及第16條第一項之藥品製造業者,其向製造業者應由專任藥師駐場監製,"},{"start":8407.185,"end":8418.389,"text":"其應聘用國內外大學、院校以上醫藥或生命科學等相關科系畢業並具有細胞學、微生物學或免疫學專門知識之專任人員駐朝參與之中。宣讀完畢。到審查會條文通過第7條。"},{"start":8431.673,"end":8459.173,"text":"第6條 藥商製造輸入再生醫療試劑應向中央主管機關申請長驗登記並親和轉發給藥品許可證或合與有付款許可後時得為之中央主管機關合與前項有付款許可應先經再生醫療審議會之審議通過輸入第一項再生醫療試劑應由藥品許可證或有付款許可之所有人或其受取者為之宣讀完畢"},{"start":8461.587,"end":8484.208,"text":"照審查會條文通過第7條第7條 經核准製造輸入之再生醫療製劑應經中央主管機關核准使得變更藥品許可證或有付款許可及原查驗登記証項藥品許可證及有付款許可遺傳時應辦理遺傳登記宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第8條"},{"start":8485.356,"end":8503.33,"text":"第8條依第6條第一項規定發給之藥品許可證有效期間為5年期滿人需繼續治傷輸入者應於有效期間屆滿3個月前至6個月間申請中央主管機關核准展延每次展延不得超過5年藥品許可證項其屆滿"},{"start":8505.271,"end":8518.783,"text":"為申請或經否準展言者原許可證施行效力並由中央主管機關註銷之。前項許可證有污損或遺失時應續明理由向中央主管機關申請換發或補發,換發者並應同時將原許可證撤銷。"},{"start":8522.726,"end":8546.808,"text":"前二條申請長驗登記、遺傳登記、藥品許可證、有付款許可與原長驗登記事項之變更及前二項藥品許可證之證言、匯發與不發者及申請條件、應檢不證文件、資料審查程序、核准期准、消費及其他相關事項之準則由中央主管行為定之。宣讀完畢。稍後審查會條文通過第9條。"},{"start":8547.881,"end":8568.656,"text":"第9條 中央管計官受理第6條第一項諮查案登記申請後,未准製為其生命或嚴重失能之疾病,予完成第二期臨床試驗,並經審查風險效益,具安全性及初步療效者,得附加付款和與有效期限不稱過5年之時刻,其難不得展現。"},{"start":8569.777,"end":8579.95,"text":"前線危及生命或嚴重智能症疾病等於申請查驗登記前向中央主管機關申請認定。宣告完畢。照審查會條文通過第10條"},{"start":8581.311,"end":8600.245,"text":"第十條,前條第一項所定付款應包括下列事項一、執行療效驗證試驗並定期呼籲指定期限內繳交試驗報告二、費額及其收取方式三、病人應使用治疾方針不良反應之死亡、專業或嚴重疾病之救濟措施"},{"start":8600.905,"end":8627.92,"text":"四、其當今中央主管機關決定這事項依前條第一項規定合約有付款許可者與旅行所附加之付款後得向中央主管機關申請長遠登記並經核選後方給藥品許可證為旅行所附加之付款獲監評估有重擔安全疑慮者中央主管機關的廢止其付款許可宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第11條"},{"start":8629.161,"end":8651.235,"text":"第11條:「再生醫療事件取自人體組織、細胞製造者、其製贈或輸入業者、因缺某該事件來源提供者最合適性使得製贈或輸入,其向提供者合適性之判定條件,申選、測試項目及其他相關事項執行法由中央主管經過定製。」宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第12條"},{"start":8652.284,"end":8674.543,"text":"第12條衛工製造正式醫療執行而與國內取得人體組織細胞者其提供者以有意思能力追求成年人為限但顯有益於治療特定人口局且未能以及他對象取代者不再次限前項之組織細胞應與取得前獲得提供者之書面同意"},{"start":8675.063,"end":8701.653,"text":"前項書面同意提供者為先進行為能力人或受輔助宣告之人時應得其本人及法定代理人或輔助人書面同意為無行為能力人或受監護宣告之人時應得其法定代理人或監護人書面同意提供者為無意思能力遵傳的人未能依前項規定辦理時應按教練順序指引人取得其書面同意"},{"start":8702.273,"end":8726.44,"text":"一、配偶、二、成年子女、三、父母、四、兄弟姊妹、五、祖父母。前項第二款是第五款,規定人員所謂之處面同意,得以一者為之。同一順序之人,意思表示不一致時,亦與無意思難利之成年人同居親屬為先,其同居親屬有異領受者,以年長者為先,無同居親屬者,以年長者為先。"},{"start":8728.421,"end":8753.741,"text":"第三項、第四項規定再生醫療組織細胞來源之提供者為限制行為能力人、受輔助宣告之人無行為能力人、受監護宣告之人或無意識能力之成年人取得之書面同意應經公正使生效力本條及第13條書面同意之內容得以完整呈現並與日後舉書公查驗者得以電子文件為之宣讀完畢"},{"start":8754.847,"end":8779.144,"text":"照審查會條文通過報議院會現在在旁聽席是原治大學的同學我們掌聲歡迎第13條再生醫療之際製造業者因其條規定取得同意前應構之下列事項以再生醫療之際製造業者名稱論組織細胞之用途三所製成再生醫療之際預定之適應證及適用對象"},{"start":8782.526,"end":8808.587,"text":"四、組織細胞之取得方式可能呈生之副作用與併發症發生率與處理方法、禁忌、限制及其他相關應配合事項五、提供者合適性判定條件六、限於組織細胞之後續處置或可能之使用範圍七、對提供行為之補助內容及方式八、後續追蹤內容及方式九、退出中止及終者之權利實施的組織細胞過程"},{"start":8810.789,"end":8835.689,"text":"方針不良反映之醫療證戶補償及阻力十一、預期可能衍生之利益及歸屬十二、個人資料保密措施十三、其他經中央主管機關公告之事項請向同一支公司方針程序及其他因罪性事項支配法由中央主管機關定制宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過"},{"start":8837.222,"end":8853.388,"text":"現在宣讀第14條第14條週末再生醫療時期組織細胞提供載出廣告以下專週末廣告現由藥商為之再生醫療時期廣告依藥事法藥品廣告時規定宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第15條"},{"start":8855.834,"end":8882.944,"text":"第15條 招募廣告不得有誇大不實或無科學實證之標示宣傳要生看播前向招募廣告時應於看播前將其內容及看播方式向中央主管機關或其委任委託之機關構或法人申請核准並向傳播業者提取核准文件後實在為之看播期間未經核准不得並跟委員核准招募廣告內容或看播方式"},{"start":8883.564,"end":8907.788,"text":"核准刊播之招募廣告,經發現其內容或刊播方式危害民眾健康或有重大危害之餘時,中央主管機關應令藥商立即停止刊播並限期改善,及其未改善者廢止核准。全部業者不得刊播未經核准與核准事項不符,以廢止核准或禁令立即停止刊播之招募廣告,"},{"start":8908.408,"end":8924.014,"text":"全副業者接受委託刊播招募廣告因此廣告就任期6個月內保存委託刊播招募廣告之藥商名稱、藥商選考執照字號營業所定職電話及第二項之核選文件影本資料"},{"start":8925.014,"end":8947.424,"text":"經中央主管機關要求提供時不得規避、妨礙或拒絕第二項招募廣告的刊摸與不得刊摸是文字、言詞、圖畫或其他內容招募對象刊摸方式、刊摸地點及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第15條第16條更正"},{"start":8950.936,"end":8970.843,"text":"第16條,藥商因依《藥事法》第53條之一及第57條規定取得運銷製造許可並符合《藥物優良製造準則》及《西藥優良運銷準則》之規定使得製造及運銷再生醫療製劑違反前項規定未經許可擅自製造或運銷"},{"start":8971.883,"end":8985.744,"text":"或未符合藥物優良製造準則或吸藥優良運銷準則之規定施政或運銷者依藥事法規定裁處宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第17條"},{"start":8987.216,"end":9015.864,"text":"第十屆條金額准製造輸入至暫時醫療製劑中央主管機關的指定品項期間另要品許可證或有付款許可之所有人依公告戶核定之安全監視計畫監視其安全性醫療機構應提供相關安全監視資料與該許可證或有付款許可之所有人其項許可證或有付款許可之所有人應定其製作安全監視報告繳交中央主管機關"},{"start":9016.964,"end":9038.464,"text":"為令其強張或經中央主管機關認該至今有安全疑慮或安全監視計畫執行之方式內容與員工、幹戶和訂部輔助者得令其限期改善或延長監視期間必要時得令其暫停製造輸入或販賣其接種到者得禁與廢止其藥品許可證或有付款許可"},{"start":9039.905,"end":9056.617,"text":"前二項安全監視資料及報告其繳交方式、期限、內容格式、蒐集資料之限、治癒維護監視期間、評估及其他應遵行事上之辦法由中央治管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第18條"},{"start":9058.134,"end":9074.664,"text":"第18條 藥商及醫療機構應保存暫時醫療製劑供應來源及流向質資料其向資料之範圍、保存方式與期限及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第19條"},{"start":9076.533,"end":9099.345,"text":"第19條 使用取得有復還許可之再生醫療之計方針不良反映致死亡障礙或嚴重疾病時依所附加之第10條第一項第三款救濟措施辦理使用取得藥品許可證之再生醫療之計適用藥害救濟法之規定宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第20條"},{"start":9100.782,"end":9119.571,"text":"第20條有下列各款基金之一者由中央主管機關主席內閉3位員以上200位員相發還以違反第15條第二項規定未經核准或未向全部業者提取核准文件刊播招募廣告或未經核准便跟原核准之招募廣告內容"},{"start":9120.191,"end":9149.201,"text":"或刊摸方式二、違反第15條第4項規定刊摸未經核准與核准事項不符以廢止核准或禁令立即停止刊摸之招募廣告三、違反第15條第5項規定未依規定期限保存資料或保存資料不全或規避法案或拒絕提供資料四、違反第15條第6項鎖定辦法中有關招募廣告刊摸地點之規定宣讀完畢"},{"start":9150.031,"end":9174.035,"text":"照審查會條文通過,請宣讀第21條。第21條,由下列個款進行追責,由直銷市縣市儲管機關署新台幣3萬元以上200萬元銷貨款。一,為依第5條第二項規定,併用具相關學歷及專門知識之專任人員。二,為本第6條第一項規定,會取得藥品許可證或有付款許可,"},{"start":9174.495,"end":9198.639,"text":"致贊或輸入暫生醫療之際三、違本第7條規定未經核准擅自變更藥品許可證有復管許可或原查驗登記學校或擅自移轉藥品許可證或有復管許可四、違本第11條第一項規定未確保提供者合適性擅自致贊或輸入暫生醫療之際五、違本第12條第一項本文規定"},{"start":9199.199,"end":9224.454,"text":"非已有異性能力居成年人之組織細胞製造再生醫療製劑。六、委本第12條第二項規定為於取得組織細胞前獲得提供者書面同意或為依同條第三項至第六項有關同意權行使規定辦理。七、委定13條第一項規定與取得同意前構置該項所列事項"},{"start":9225.314,"end":9248.579,"text":"八、違反第13條第二項鎖定辦法中有關告知方式或程序性規定九、違反第14條第一項規定非藥商為招募廣告十、違反第17條第一項規定藥品許可證或有付款許可證所有人為醫工案或核定之安全監視計劃執行或醫療機構為提供安全監視資料"},{"start":9250.099,"end":9275.151,"text":"十一、委本地十七條第三項鎖定辦法中有關安全監視報告內容、繳交期限或監視期限之規定十二、委本地十八條第一項規定為保存資料十三、委本地十八條第二項鎖定辦法中有關保存資料之範圍、保存方式或保存期限之規定宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第二十二條"},{"start":9276.124,"end":9296.24,"text":"第二十二條本條例有關再生療治器之管理事色主管機關的定期或不定期稽查宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第二十三條第二十三條本條例涉行日期由行政院定之宣讀完畢報告院會全案經過二讀現由民進黨黨團、國民黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議"},{"start":9303.342,"end":9323.045,"text":"沒有議,我們請宣讀經過二讀之條文。再生醫療之際條例第一條,為確保再生醫療之際追安全、品質及有效性、維護病人權益特殊地本條例。本條例為規定者依要事法及其他相關法律之規定。"},{"start":9325.445,"end":9346.02,"text":"二、本條例所佔主管機關在中央委衛生福利部、在指消市委指消市政府、在縣市委縣市政府。三、本條例稱《再生醫療治劑》指含有基因細胞及其衍生物供人體使用這治劑,前項《再生醫療治劑》屬要事法第多條規定之要憑。"},{"start":9347.621,"end":9375.916,"text":"第4條再生醫療治劑分類如下一、基因治療治劑將重組基因侵入或輸入人體內以治療預防或斬斷疾病之治劑二、細胞治療治劑將細胞或其野生物加工製造以治療預防或斬斷疾病之治劑三、組織工程治劑將含有經加工改造之組織或細胞修復再生或替代人體組織器官之治劑"},{"start":9377.176,"end":9384.262,"text":"四、復原製劑將具有醫療器材屬性之結構材料簽合前三款全部或部分之製劑"},{"start":9386.601,"end":9406.619,"text":"第5條 再生醫療這些之販賣業者及製造業者以下並稱藥商為藥術法第15條第一款之藥品販賣業者其第16條第一項之藥品製造業者其項製造業者應由專任藥師駐場監制及應聘用國內外大學院校以上"},{"start":9407.48,"end":9414.39,"text":"醫藥或生命科學等相關科系畢業並具有西方學、微生物學或免疫學專門知識之專任人員駐場參與製造。"},{"start":9418.874,"end":9445.983,"text":"第6條 藥商製造輸入再生醫療之際應向中央主管機關申請查驗登記並進行轉發給藥品許可證或合約有付款許可後使得為之中央主管機關合約前向有付款許可應先經再生醫療審議會之審議通過輸入第一項再生醫療之際應由藥品許可證或有付款許可之所有人或其措權者為之"},{"start":9447.642,"end":9463.427,"text":"第7條 經核准製造輸入至再生醫療之際應經中央主管機關核准時的變更用品許可證或有付款許可及原查驗登記事項用品許可證即有付款許可已准時應本領一轉登記"},{"start":9466.857,"end":9487.634,"text":"第8條,依第6條第一項規定發給之藥品許可證有效期間為5年其本人需繼續製造輸入者應於有效期間屆滿3個月前至6個月間申請中央主管機關核准展延每次展延不到超過5年藥品許可證效期屆滿未申請"},{"start":9488.434,"end":9511.118,"text":"霍金佛準暫移研者、原許可證施行效力並由中央主管機關註銷之。請向許可證有誤損或疑似時應註明理由向中央主管機關設計換方或補方、換發者並應同時將原許可證撤銷。前一條申請船員登記遺傳登記尿皮許可證有付款許可"},{"start":9512.018,"end":9528.133,"text":"與原查驗登記事項之變更及前往向右邊許可證之展言、換方與不發者及申請條件應檢固證文件、資料審查程序、核准結准、收費及其他相關事項之準則由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":9530.151,"end":9551.842,"text":"第9條,中央主管機關受理第6條,第一項諮查驗登記申請後,未准致為其生病或嚴重腎癌之疾病,予完成第二期臨床試驗,並經審查風險效益,具安全性及注目療效者得附加付款,可與有效期間不超過5年之時可集滿不得轉延。"},{"start":9552.822,"end":9578.719,"text":"其項為其生命或嚴重受感知疾病等於申請查驗登記前向中央主管機關申請認定。第10條,其條第一項所定付款應包括下列事項一、執行療效驗證試驗並定期或於決定期限內繳交試驗報告。二、肺癌及其收取方式。三、病人應使用之際方針不良反映致死亡。"},{"start":9579.639,"end":9604.925,"text":"莊嚴或嚴重疾病追究及措施。四、其當經中央主管機關決定之事項,依前條第一項規定何與有付款許可者與旅行所附加之付款後,得向中央主管機關申請查驗登記、併經核准後分給藥品許可證。未旅行所附加之付款或經評估有充當安全疑慮者,中央主管機關得分准其付款許可。"},{"start":9607.065,"end":9627.237,"text":"第11條:「再生醫療之際,取自人體組織細胞製造者及製造或輸入業者,依據本該之際來源提供者之合適性,使得製造或輸入,且向提供者合適性之判定條件,相選測試項目及其他相關事項之變法,由中央主管機關定之。」"},{"start":9629.264,"end":9656.602,"text":"第12條,衛工制造殭屍療治集合於國內取得人體組織細胞者其提供者已有異性能力之成年人為限但僅有益於治療特定人口群且未能與其他對象取代者不再次限前向人組織細胞應於取得前獲得提供者之書面同意前向書面同意提供者為限制行為能力人或受輔助宣告之人時"},{"start":9657.623,"end":9674.735,"text":"應得及本人及法定代理人或輔助人書面同意為無行為能力人或受監護宣告者人士應得及法定代理人或監護人書面同意提供者為無意思能力追查年人未能依前任規定辦理時"},{"start":9675.755,"end":9705.067,"text":"應按下列順序之人緣取得其書面同意一、配偶二、產年子女三、父母四、兄弟姐妹五、祖父母前項第二款是第五款規定人緣所要及書面同意等異議者為之同一順序之人疑似表示不一致時應與無疑似能力之成年人同居親屬為先其同居親屬有二位以上者以年長者為先無同居親屬者以年長者為先"},{"start":9706.653,"end":9734.02,"text":"第三項、第四項規定再生醫療組織西班牙援助提供者為限制行為能力人、受輔助宣告之人、無行為能力人、受監護宣告之人或無意識能力之成年人取得之書面同意應經公正、實身效力本條及第13條書面同意之內容得以完整呈現並於日後取出供常驗者得以電子文件為之"},{"start":9736.024,"end":9755.506,"text":"第13條:「再生醫療致敬製造業者,依前條規定取得同意前應購致下令事項,一、再生醫療致敬製造業者名稱,二、組織細胞之用途,三、所製成再生醫療致敬預定致適應診值及適用對象,"},{"start":9757.188,"end":9781.688,"text":"四、組織細胞之取得方式可能產生之副作用與併發症發生率與處理方法、境界限制及其他相關應配合事項五、提供者合適性判定條件六、剩餘組織細胞之後續組織或可能之使用範圍七、對提供行為之補助內容及方式八、後續追蹤內容及方式"},{"start":9782.253,"end":9808.104,"text":"九、退出充值其充值之權利,使取得組織細胞過程發生不良反應之醫療證戶補償及處理。十一、欲其可能衍生之利益及歸屬。十二、更展資料保密措施。十三、其當今中央主管警官公告這事項,其項同一之告示方式程序及其當因遵循時長之辦法由中央主管警官定之。"},{"start":9810.171,"end":9821.99,"text":"第14條 週末再生醫療之際組織細胞提供者之廣告以象徵週末廣告現由藥商為之再生醫療之際廣告依藥事法藥品廣告之規定"},{"start":9824.184,"end":9846.056,"text":"第15條 招募廣告不得有誇大不實或無科學實證之標示宣傳要商看播前向招募廣告時應於看播前交集內容及看播方式向中央主管機關或及委任委託之機關構或法人申請核證逼證全部業者提具核證文件後申的為之"},{"start":9846.716,"end":9868.277,"text":"刊播期間未經核准,不得並跟原核准章目廣告內容或刊播方式核准刊播之章目廣告及發現其內容或刊播方式危害民眾健康或有重大危害之餘時。中央主管機關應令藥商立即停止刊播並限期改善,藉其為改善者廢止核准。"},{"start":9869.097,"end":9894.998,"text":"傳播業者不得刊播未經核准與核准事項不符以廢止核准或禁令立即停止刊播之招募廣告傳播業者接受委託刊播招募廣告因此廣告之日期6個月內保存委託刊播招募廣告之用商名稱、用商許可、執照字號、營業所地址、電話及第二項之核准文件影本資料"},{"start":9895.939,"end":9914.12,"text":"經中央主管機關要求提供時,不得規避、妨礙或拒絕。第二項招募廣告的刊摸與不得刊摸之文字、言詞、童話或其他內容、招募對象、刊摸方式、刊摸點點及其他因罪行事上之辦法,由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":9916.499,"end":9942.395,"text":"第16條 要上應依藥事法第53條之一及第57條規定取得運銷製造許可並符合藥物優良製造準則及新藥物優良運銷準則之規定取得製造及運銷再生醫療製劑違反截下規定未經許可甚至製造或運銷或未符合藥物優良製造準則或新藥物優良運銷準則之規定製造或運銷者"},{"start":9945.037,"end":9946.786,"text":"一、用事法規定拆除"},{"start":9949.827,"end":9975.462,"text":"第17條經核准製造輸入至再生醫療之際專用主管機關等指定品項期間另要併許可證或有付款許可之所有人依公共或核定制安全監視計畫監視其安全性醫療機構應提供相關安全監視資料與跟許可證或有付款許可之所有人前項許可證或有付款許可之所有人"},{"start":9976.122,"end":9991.321,"text":"應定其製作安全監視報告繳交中央主管機關或定其繳交或經中央主管機關任該即有安全疑慮或安全監視計畫執行之方式。內容與員工個戶合併不符者"},{"start":9991.781,"end":10018.659,"text":"德令及縣級改善或延長監視期間必要時德令及暫停製造輸入或分賣及接觸納者得盡與廢止其藥品許可證或有副管許可。其二相關全監視資料及報告其繳交方式、期限、內容格式、蒐集資料之限制與維護監視期間評估及其他因遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定制。"},{"start":10021.092,"end":10034.491,"text":"第18條 療傷及醫療機構依保存再生醫療之際供應來源及流向之資料且向資料之範圍保存方式與期限及其他因遵循時長之變法由中央主管機關定之"},{"start":10036.533,"end":10056.034,"text":"第19條,使用取得有付款許可之再生醫療之際發生不良反應之死亡、障眼或嚴重疾病時依所附加是第10條第一項第三款救濟措施辦理使用取得藥品許可暫時再生醫療之際適用藥害救濟法是規定"},{"start":10057.813,"end":10077.466,"text":"第20條有效列各款執行之一者由中央主管機關處心合併3位員以上200萬元向發還以違反第15條第二項規定未經核准或未向全部業者提取核准文件刊剝招募廣告或未經核准便跟原核准之招募廣告內容"},{"start":10078.206,"end":10091.493,"text":"或刊播方式二、違反第15條第4項規定刊播未清核准與核准事項不符以廢止核准或禁令立即停止刊播之招募廣告三、違反第15條第5項規定"},{"start":10093.634,"end":10116.145,"text":"為依規定期限保存資料或保存資料不全或規避、妨礙或拒絕提供資料。四、違反第15條第6項鎖定派發中有關招募廣告刊剝地點之規定。第21條有項鏈各款即行支援者由指甲室縣市主管機關儲信票幣3萬元以上200萬元下發還。"},{"start":10117.685,"end":10145.331,"text":"一、衛醫第五條第二項規定併用具相關學歷及專門知識之專業人員二、違反第六條第一項規定未取得藥品許可證或有復管許可製作或輸入的再生醫療製劑三、違反第七條規定未經核准是案自變更藥品許可證有復管許可或原查驗登記事項或是案自隱傳藥品許可證或有復管許可"},{"start":10146.954,"end":10166.382,"text":"四、違本第11條第一項規定為確保提供者合適性、甚至製造或輸入再生醫療製劑五、違本第12條第一項本文規定非依由醫生能力專程年人之組織、細胞製造再生醫療製劑六、違本第12條第二項規定為允許得組織細胞前"},{"start":10170.163,"end":10190.929,"text":"獲得提供者出面同意或為依同條第3項至第6項有關同意權行使規定辦理。七、為依第13條第一項規定與取得同意前告知該項所列事項。八、為本第13條第二項所定辦法中有關告知方式或程序之規定。九、為本第14條第一項規定"},{"start":10192.669,"end":10203.959,"text":"范耀山委專目廣告施違反第17條第一項規定要被許可證或有付款許可之所有人為醫工個或核電池安全監視計畫執行或醫療機構為提供安全監視資料"},{"start":10208.923,"end":10230.422,"text":"十一違反第十七條第三項鎖定辦法中有關安全監視報告內容、繳交期限或監視期限之規定十二違反第十八條第一項規定為保存資料十三違反第十八條第二項鎖定辦法中有關保存資料是範圍、保存方式或保存期限之規定"},{"start":10233.447,"end":10253.172,"text":"第二十二條本條例有關再生醫療直接之管理事項主管機關得定期或不定期稽查第二十三條本條例實行日期由行政院定之宣讀完畢報告院會現在在議場二樓旁聽的是雲林縣中小企業榮譽指導委員協進會的朋友們請掌聲歡迎"},{"start":10259.178,"end":10278.407,"text":"報告院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正?沒有文字修正我們決議《再生醫療制計條例》制定通過我們繼續處理審查會所作之附帶決議請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容"},{"start":10282.534,"end":10303.877,"text":"通過附帶決議三項一、為保障再生醫療製劑之安全無傳染病或疾病導入、傳播及擴散之風險中央主管機關應科與製造或輸入者對再生醫療製劑的篩選、檢測程序應包含確保未受傳染性病原或其他疾病污染"},{"start":10304.878,"end":10331.21,"text":"作為本條例第11條所述合適性要求之一二、為權衡安全監視及病人隱私應比照藥品安全監視管理辦法第15條之規定藥商為執行藥品安全監視有收集、處理或利用個人資料之必要時應依個人資料保護法及其相關法規規定辦理三、為平衡安全監視"},{"start":10332.17,"end":10354.705,"text":"以病人隱私之考量應比照藥品安全監視管理辦法第15條規定當藥商執行藥品的安全監視時若有必要收集、處理或利用個人資料應嚴格遵守個人資料保護法及其相關法規之規定宣讀完畢全院會有無異議"},{"start":10356.496,"end":10368.663,"text":"沒有異議我們決定照案通過報告委員會本案完成立法程序之後由委員登記發言每位委員發言時間兩分鐘我們截止登記第一位我們請邱議瑩委員發言"},{"start":10388.424,"end":10416.265,"text":"謝謝主席2024年的6月4號早上的11點20分在立法院通過了《再生雙法》的法案修正這個法案的通過讓台灣成為繼日本、韓國之後第三個為再生醫療制定專法的亞洲國家我們應該要為自己拍拍手這是台灣醫療進程的一個里程碑未來"},{"start":10417.486,"end":10439.337,"text":"台灣的病人可以在台灣接受治療我們的生技業者也可以透過這樣的一個致技條例的通過讓他們的研發不再只是只上作業讓他們的研發不再只是進行人體試驗而是能夠完全量產為更多更多的病人造福"},{"start":10441.616,"end":10463.517,"text":"剛剛有許多我的好同事在台上的發言都讓我坐在台下淚流不止他們知道我從14年前得了癌症之後我一直告訴自己我要為癌症的病患做些什麼所以這10年來推動再生醫療雙法的進行變成了我一生的懸命"},{"start":10464.358,"end":10479.774,"text":"我還是必須藉由今天的三讀後發言感謝一路相伴的不管是產業界、不管是醫界、學界甚至在立法院裡頭所有的好夥伴、好同事"},{"start":10480.434,"end":10508.735,"text":"甚至這一次才加入我們的王振旭委員、林月琴委員都在委員會裡頭給我非常多非常多的指導我們也期待這個法令通過之後不只讓我們台灣的醫界、生技界能夠蓬勃發展最重要讓我們的病人能夠得到適當的治療能夠得到最好的治療因為台灣的精準醫療是全世界No.1"},{"start":10509.435,"end":10511.299,"text":"再次謝謝大家的支持謝謝"},{"start":10541.796,"end":10566.382,"text":"謝謝主席今天6月4號我們齊聚在一起共同慶祝再生醫療雙法三讀通過這歷史性的時刻作為法案的提案人之一我們參與我們與有榮焉我深感榮幸的見證到這一創新的科學的勝利我們同時也看到對這些疾病陰影中苦苦掙扎的病友以及家庭深切的慰藉"},{"start":10567.649,"end":10593.455,"text":"讓我透過艾蜜莉的故事來告訴大家感受這一刻的重要性艾蜜莉是一位勇敢的小女孩她患有一種罕見且嚴重的遺傳性疾病從她出生的那一天就開始與病魔長期的戰鬥經歷了無數次的住院和治療她的病情看似無法獲得根本性的改善然而隨著再生醫療的突破特別是基因醫療法的一個發展"},{"start":10595.836,"end":10617.327,"text":"艾蜜莉獲得新生的希望這種治療不僅讓她的症狀得到顯著的改善更為她帶來重新獲得健康生活的可能性至2021年卡提的治療在台灣獲得核准並於2023年終於納入健保給付無數像艾蜜莉這樣的病友終於看到了光明"},{"start":10618.26,"end":10642.258,"text":"今天《再生醫療雙法》通過將使得更多的病友獲得生命改變的一個治療感謝每一位在漫長旅途不懈努力的政策制定者、立法者、支持者是大家堅持和努力讓今天的成就成為可能讓希望照進了無數渴望救治的家庭"},{"start":10642.938,"end":10666.256,"text":"我想能夠參與到這一刻擔任這一屆的立法委員一起來努力這也是我們大家共同所因應期盼能夠給予所有的病友的支持我們大家一起共同努力感謝這一部法令能夠三讀通過謝謝謝謝羅廷瑋委員的發言接下來我們請登記第三號楊瓊英委員發言"},{"start":10691.738,"end":10709.759,"text":"菁愛的院會主席韓院長各位同仁、新聞界的朋友我們的參訪同學楊瓊一發言我們針對於今天所通過的我要特別感謝所有歷任的委員以及所有的參與者我們終於三讀通過"},{"start":10711.06,"end":10724.748,"text":"再生醫療是將基因、細胞以及衍生物用於人體的構造或功能重建或修復以達到治療或預防人類疾病的目標目前以藥師法來規範明明白白是不夠的因此"},{"start":10729.691,"end":10757.812,"text":"再生醫療的形態跟技術、心理現行的法規在難以完全滿足再生醫療的需求以及促進再生醫療的發展所以有鑒於此我們今天能夠通過這樣子的一個條例能夠讓再生醫療產業蓬勃發展特別也針對於再生醫療製劑的組織細胞提供合適者的一個適性"},{"start":10758.472,"end":10776.865,"text":"評估提供和知情同意或招募廣告病人接受先進治療權益以及上市後流向管理強化等加以規範同時也明確業者必須均詢所有從事細胞"},{"start":10777.365,"end":10793.836,"text":"河東等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員謝衣鳯等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發"},{"start":10807.305,"end":10813.81,"text":"若實建構符合我國食物管理的一個架構更加的完善。"},{"start":10849.349,"end":10872.354,"text":"主席、各位同仁、大家好本席了解國內許多關注再生醫療議題的朋友對於相關法案、法規的通過、相關政策的完備抱持著高度的期待身為醫師站在醫療的專業角度也在此要特別向國人報告再生醫療"},{"start":10873.834,"end":10895.164,"text":"確實是一項許多國家正在積極投入研究以及發展的重要領域再生醫療雙法不僅有利於學術研究以及產業的發展更重要的是將能夠對國民的健康以及醫療的需求產生前瞻性的正向影響包括癌症"},{"start":10896.084,"end":10924.26,"text":"智療等面向將有助於提供國人更多的選擇選項以及保障我們也都知道其實再生醫療雙法三讀通過後衛福部也必須針對許多實際操作面的細節訂定相關的執法事實上對於再生雙法的三讀相信包括醫界、學界、產業界甚至是病友團體"},{"start":10925.356,"end":10930.018,"text":"各界多數均抱持肯定的態度不過許多"},{"start":10930.734,"end":10954.365,"text":"未來的衛競之業立法規範當中未曾完善之處也擁有許多的建議、期待甚至是擔心對此,建請衛福部未來在訂定各項執法的同時務必要廣納、廣收各界的意見包括各醫事團體、專家、學者並有團體甚至產業界的聲音透過執法的修訂、補充"},{"start":10956.446,"end":10973.239,"text":"變成一個好的對話契機讓這些配套措施都能夠更加完善也能夠確定在各項細部都能夠得到最多的共識最後再感謝所有醫藥界、同仁、生物科技界跟專家學者們對於所有的參與能夠"},{"start":10983.061,"end":10987.527,"text":"謝謝王振旭委員的發言接下來請登記第5號黃秀芳委員發言"},{"start":10998.359,"end":11013.735,"text":"主席、各位立法院的同仁今天再生醫療法、再生醫療製劑條例草案能夠歷經三屆的委員討論今天真的非常的開心這雙法能夠在今天三讀通過再生醫療製劑條例規範商品化、規格化的"},{"start":11017.819,"end":11037.845,"text":"而醫療治劑由衛福部食藥署主管是醫事法的特別法其中明定付款許可讓危及生命或嚴重失能的疾病完成二期臨床試驗並經審查風險效益具安全性及初步療效者可及早取得再生醫療新藥"},{"start":11039.505,"end":11055.738,"text":"那過去在人體試驗的部分討論非常的多在這次的這個再生醫療可免除人體試驗的條件僅剩下N次療法還有特管辦法以核准執行項目另外過去"},{"start":11056.378,"end":11083.785,"text":"不得利用異種異體細胞進行醫療行為也有相當的討論最終考量異種細胞管理的未來性在法規內並沒有排除未來異種細胞可以以再生醫療法來管理外界憂心的再生醫療雙法實行後恐出現現實版的解決的守護者此次草案將細胞治療的提供者排除胎兒"},{"start":11084.665,"end":11112.871,"text":"避免此類的道德疑慮因此再生醫療雙法這次真的是透過許多人的努力共同商討相關的條文那加強相關權益保障的完整版本衷心的感謝所有立法院的同仁真的再生醫療雙法歷經了這個三屆所有的同仁在委員會的討論那也感謝陳時中部長、薛瑞元部長在委員會"},{"start":11114.411,"end":11116.193,"text":"謝謝黃秀芳委員的發言接下來請登記第6號劉建國委員發言"},{"start":11160.97,"end":11185.651,"text":"主席、各位同仁歷經三屆三屆說久不久說長也不長但實際上對於病患而言是一個漫長等待的日子這個雙法再生醫療、再生醫療治劑今天可以三讀通過我想台灣將邁入再生醫療的新紀元開啟台灣細胞醫學的新時代要來照顧更多的病友"},{"start":11186.859,"end":11205.044,"text":"這雙法通過對數萬劑病患而言是他們長久來因應的期盼對於傳統醫療無法治癒的疾病如相關癌症、神經細胞再生、組織器官重建、再生醫療技術是這些病患的希望但過去再生醫療相關技術與管理僅依賴特管辦法來規範"},{"start":11207.359,"end":11232.043,"text":"機制不夠健全、違德不足審查過程又於過於漫長的情況之下導致許多的病患在苦苦等待中失去了寶貴生命我在2019年之前接收到相關的訊息日本早將再生醫療法制化但台灣卻在這一塊落後也因此我當衛環委會召委的時候就立即提案也迅速排審"},{"start":11232.918,"end":11261.267,"text":"也是第一次讓這個再生醫療制計管理條例審訊送出委員會但因為涉及層面廣泛各方意見也眾多又因屆期不連續更在第10屆也就是2020年我與邱議瑩及多位委員共同召開公聽會聽取各方意見前前後後這樣總共N次以上的來希望可以快速通過但是還是還是還是等到到今天"},{"start":11262.065,"end":11286.821,"text":"我要在這邊特別感謝黃秀芳召委在第1個會期本屆第1個會期就立即的排審也要感謝薛前部長、博恩朝委的立委尤其時任委員的邱太元現任的部長對再生醫療也非常用心的提出相關草案並在委員會主條進行討論相信在每個委員審查草案時都會有自己的經驗、立場跟角度也當然都可以自由的發言當然也會有不同的見解與看法"},{"start":11290.453,"end":11295.094,"text":"謝謝劉建國委員發言接下來請登記第7號謝衣鳳委員發言"},{"start":11339.827,"end":11346.095,"text":"院長、本院同仁根據國際再生醫療聯盟 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87.944,"text":"請,來"},{"start":23995.401,"end":24011.025,"text":"現在我們繼續開會進行討論事項第三案原住民保留禁法補償條例部分條文修正草案本案經第一會期第13次會議決議協商後再行處理報院會本案現已完成協商請宣讀協商結論"},{"start":24014.076,"end":24030.569,"text":"議法院黨團協商結論時間113年6月4日星期二下午1時8分地點議場三樓會議室協商主題原住民保留地禁法補償條例修正草案協商結論一第三條第五條為之現行法條文不予修正"},{"start":24031.289,"end":24040.491,"text":"二、第六條保留提報院會表決。三、院會進行處理時,廣泛討論由臺灣民眾黨黨團推派1人、民進黨黨團推派3人、國民黨黨團推派3人,輪流交叉發言,順序授權議事處處理。每人發言時間3分鐘,逐條討論各黨團推派1人代表發言。"},{"start":24053.955,"end":24068.711,"text":"發言後即對尚開保留條文進行表決。協商主持人韓國瑜、江啟臣、協商代表柯建銘、吳思瑤、傅坤祺、黃孟凱、黃國昌、莊烈雄、黃珊珊、林思敏、吳春成宣讀完畢。委員會對以上協商的結論有無異議。"},{"start":24072.247,"end":24091.692,"text":"本案討論時的進一協商結論處理現在我們進行廣泛的討論每位委員發言時間3分鐘第一位我們請柯建民委員發言今天是"},{"start":24101.946,"end":24127.36,"text":"議法史上只有一天我們的民主終於守住了所以剛才我三級功敬禮5月28號青鳥行動民意反撲在民意反撲底下終於千轉百折我們得到一個很重要的意義我一直在講"},{"start":24129.306,"end":24151.347,"text":"所有的事情,到底違憲與否,讓行政院呼籲施政來處理,實體性的。但程式性是最重要,沒有程式性正義何來實質正義?所以一直很堅持我們一定要依實行政法、依實程式性正義來處理所有過程。有經過討論,然後表決,有的輸了我們就認了。"},{"start":24154.059,"end":24177.771,"text":"民主就是這樣進步了我們過於表決幾萬次怎麼沒有成功過30年來但今天我們終於得到校正回歸在這裡要感謝臺灣的所有人民對民主的追求在外面吶喊讓我們得到今天的結論所以在這裡我是非常感謝第一個"},{"start":24179.144,"end":24205.386,"text":"也要感謝大家終於能夠回歸到正途衝突以後,我們未來要如此下去嗎?所以現在衝突、妥協、進步,我們大家應該坐下來談我們恢復一個正常的立法院,這是最重要的對於本案有關於嚴肅淫境法補償,假如在合憲合法底下政府再拼單座預算,我都舉手贊成"},{"start":24208.119,"end":24228.975,"text":"我能夠體會嚴肅委員對嚴肅委員照顧他們的盡力都可以體會的每一個都相當好人但好人和壞人只是一線之隔我們在合法合憲底下拼了一串反正反而贊成我要講說沒有一個人可以向憲法對抗每一個人都要向憲法低頭"},{"start":24231.031,"end":24256.925,"text":"憲法70條寫很清楚憲法58條、59條也寫很清楚憲法包括52條、53條都寫很清楚那有3條大法案4391、4264、4585等等都是寫很清楚就權力分立原則尤其大法案4391最經典也就是說所有印刷片類假如超過行政院院長"},{"start":24258.166,"end":24280.276,"text":"許可範圍內,只能當作參考而已。也就是說,假如不是這樣的話,以後責任政治無從談起。到底誰在執政?這就是上次的民主政黨精神。所以我今天在這裡,非常遺憾,今天我們在這裡要表決。請問各位,現在可以表決嗎?請大家等一下舉手的時候注意一下。"},{"start":24284.964,"end":24289.54,"text":"謝謝柯建民委員的發言接下來請登記第二號高金素美委員發言"},{"start":24300.506,"end":24321.917,"text":"大家好此時此刻我的心情還有場景回到了8年前我要特別聲明原住民並不需要特別照顧我們要的是公平正義今天的《禁法補償條例》是依據憲法保障人民的私有土地被政府的政策限制之後的補償"},{"start":24323.118,"end":24351.063,"text":"民進黨說一定要有行政院版才會有預算我在立法院這22年來了我從來沒有聽過這麼荒謬的說法法案本來就可以由立法委員自提不管是立法委員自提法案或者是行政院提案的法案只要是立法院三讀通過行政院就必須要依法、行政、依法、編列預算"},{"start":24352.583,"end":24364.491,"text":"很遺憾的是民進黨團在我們院長最後的協商當中並沒有最後的簽字還說這是違反憲法"},{"start":24365.663,"end":24388.01,"text":"我剛剛說過今天的禁法補償是原住民族的私有土地因為政府的政策而被限制了它的使用所以依照憲法依照立法委員的提案本來就可以要求政府來補償原住民的損失更何況"},{"start":24389.537,"end":24406.635,"text":"必須要有七成的覆蓋率才可以得到一公頃三萬塊的補償。八年前在這裡三讀通過之後民進黨馬上說這是乾坑法案"},{"start":24407.881,"end":24436.23,"text":"八年後當我們要在這裡表決的時候民進黨的柯總召又說這是違反憲法我要請問一下如果違反憲法這八年來民進黨的圓明會或者是小英總統到立法到我們原住民部落都說這是小英總統的德政請問這八年來民進黨不就公然違法了嗎"},{"start":24437.41,"end":24459.422,"text":"所以不要在這裡用違反憲法這樣的字眼來糊弄我們的原住民我們現在有那麼多的原住民的立法委員在這裡捍衛我們應該要有的權益所以待會會表決在這裡再一次謝謝國民黨團謝謝民眾黨團的支持謝謝你們剛剛在朝野協商的時候"},{"start":24464.344,"end":24482.81,"text":"支持中華民國的憲法支持原住民的公平正義最後我也要在這裡呼籲民進黨的吳立華委員、陳寅委員能夠待會跟我們的族人站在一起表決的時候支持原住民的進法補償謝謝"},{"start":24489.161,"end":24494.143,"text":"謝謝高津蘇美委員的發言接下來請登記第三號黃國昌委員發言院長"},{"start":24511.687,"end":24526.358,"text":"本院委員我們現在所在討論的原住民保留地禁法補償的問題它的濫傷是從8年前的時候有簡東敏非常多的立法委員共同提案"},{"start":24527.909,"end":24550.927,"text":"認為原住民保留區當你禁止他們砍伐對於他們的使用造成限制的時候這個時候在憲法上面屬於人民權利的特別犧牲國家本來就應該有公法上面的義務來予以補償我相信這個憲法的原則非常的明確"},{"start":24552.188,"end":24566.344,"text":"我們今天所在面臨的問題是八年前完成立法的禁法補償那個時候所訂定的補償標準到八年後的今天考慮了"},{"start":24567.285,"end":24582.474,"text":"相關政策的配套考慮了物價水準的波動考慮了對於我們原住民的朋友所造成實際的限制以後這樣的金額需不需要來加以調整"},{"start":24583.574,"end":24603.804,"text":"對於這件事情臺灣民眾黨黨團我們並沒有提出自己的版本我們看到了高金素美委員他所提出來的提高到新臺幣5萬元的標準我們也看到了民主進步黨的陳英委員、伍麗華委員他們所提到的"},{"start":24604.324,"end":24626.21,"text":"提高到6萬元的標準我們肯定也相信這一些來自於原鄉的委員們他們對原住民朋友權益保障捍衛的用心也正是因為這個樣子在內政跟經濟聯席的委員會在審查的過程當中以及在後續"},{"start":24627.642,"end":24643.695,"text":"的整個黨團協商的過程當中在委員會裡面所簽訂的這樣的結論有非常多不分黨派的委員大家都共同支持這樣的提案因此"},{"start":24644.827,"end":24670.216,"text":"我們也特別的感謝在過去這段時間當中高精素美委員為了要爭取這樣的權益不厭其煩的跟我們每一位委員說明這一次按照這樣子的基準來予以調整它本身應該有的基準以及它對於原住民他們的土地正義所賦有重要的意義"},{"start":24671.596,"end":24694.862,"text":"我相信這些委員在提出這些法案的時候都是本於善意回復原住民族應該有的土地正義我也相信所有在簽署不同版本的法案的委員們他們不會跨越憲法的紅線明明知道是違憲的法案竟然在上面提名連署提出"},{"start":24707.768,"end":24709.709,"text":"這次的版本臺灣民眾黨黨團會支持回復原住民族應該有的土地正義謝謝"},{"start":24720.134,"end":24745.679,"text":"主席、各位同仁支持原住民、照顧原住民我們一直在努力我們希望做更多、希望做更好但在這裡討論這個議案我衷心的期待朝野的委員切莫因為在法案的主張有所不同就對有不同意見者扣上帽子或貼上標籤這不是理性討論議題的應有態度"},{"start":24748.76,"end":24764.898,"text":"我們來縱觀這整個法案的修正三大面向一定要考量第一個政府的總體財源是有限的餅就這麼大我們要援助民族的進法補償加碼加倍了那會不會造成其他的負面衝擊呢"},{"start":24766.62,"end":24795.96,"text":"二、部會之間類似的補償也都有,但是恆平性能不能一致?我們看看現在農業部的造林獎勵一年一公頃是3萬,經濟部的植樹保齡獎勵每年每公頃是2到4萬,那現在我們要提高修法援助民族的進法補償每公頃每年到6萬,那這樣的公平性、恆平性何在?"},{"start":24796.86,"end":24814.691,"text":"第三當然要回到法律、憲政秩序我是覺得非常的遺憾曾幾何時立法委員都不喜歡談憲法都不想要來遵守憲法的精神好,不談憲法第70條不談大法官第391號的解釋"},{"start":24817.032,"end":24829.609,"text":"那我們就來看看立法委員自己修正通過的法律財政紀律法2019年4月修正立法對不起他是新的立法夠新的法了吧財政紀律法2019年"},{"start":24832.353,"end":24860.585,"text":"大會共同朝野來推動第五條中央政府各級機關、立法委員所提法律案大幅增加政府稅出或減少稅入者要先具體指明彌補資金之來源而第七條同樣也提到立法機關制定或修正法律法規或自治法規都不得增訂固定經費的額度或比例的保障"},{"start":24861.425,"end":24881.924,"text":"就是大家一體適用的我們現在從每公頃的3萬提升到6萬將會增加一年到52億它佔了園民會一年的總預算的41%如果加上園民會的其他的法定支出更會高達89%的預算被綁死"},{"start":24886.888,"end":24910.312,"text":"來年只剩下10%左右的經費可以來用來照顧發展援助民族不管交通、衛生、教育、文化等等請問這是真的公平正義嗎?大家要深思謝謝謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言接下來我們請登記第5號鄭天才委員發言"},{"start":24921.29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原住民保留地禁法補償為什麼 是因為我們造林 我們所造的林法律限制不能砍伐 所以依法要補償這是天經地義 法律正義 轉型正義 加油"},{"start":25109.669,"end":25113.194,"text":"謝謝鄭天才委員的發言接下來請登記第6號莊瑞雄委員發言"},{"start":25129.281,"end":25157.994,"text":"主席、各位這場媒體朋友各位我們立法院的同仁剛剛我看國民黨的朋友一直主張這個叫土地正義他說這個是一個公平的一個原則我來跟大家報告如果你跟我說2015年通過的是一個公平正義是一個土地的一個正義這個可以接受然後2016年民主進步黨執政以後我們也"},{"start":25159.148,"end":25184.736,"text":"編列預算對於我們整個原住民朋友過去的禁法補償的部分我們來做一個事後的一個補償但是呢我們今天啊通過了美工警提高變成6萬塊的這樣一個禁法補償大家都很清楚啊這個已經不叫做公平正義了這個是大家在立法院裡面亂喊價那如果"},{"start":25186.477,"end":25199.606,"text":"這個在8年前大家通過的3萬塊的自公平正義那怎麼8年後公平正義又不見了那如果明年變成10萬後年變成20萬這個不同嘛"},{"start":25203.354,"end":25226.648,"text":"立法院通過任何的一個條例立法委員提的版本三讀通過了以後行政部門事後如果提出預算這個叫做事後的一個追認當然沒有侵害到行政權的一個問題啊憲法第57條講得很清楚啊我們連對於行政院所提的預算啊去做增加的一個提議啊這個都違憲了"},{"start":25230.62,"end":25246.558,"text":"三百九十一號其實他講得非常清楚你如果說這個不是行政部門的施政計畫由立法院單獨通過了以後到最後這個整個責任政治你就懶於釐清了"},{"start":25247.799,"end":25273.738,"text":"我認同剛剛黃國昌委員講的這是一個特別犧牲但是問題是特別犧牲大家要去思考所謂的特別犧牲要調幾次才會變成不是特別犧牲我感觸非常深刻我屏東那個地方有國家公園國家公園裡面就是一個縣建區農機跟建壁全部都減少了那哪來的土地正義"},{"start":25274.997,"end":25296.903,"text":"我們的水源保護區那為什麼就變成一公頃是兩萬到四萬那為什麼比照大家一起來討論全部都把它提高到六萬所以什麼叫做公平對待大家不用受騙啦這個叫做一個討好自己的自己的選民我可以接受"},{"start":25297.703,"end":25299.304,"text":"本院社會福利及衛生環境委員"},{"start":25316.28,"end":25330.86,"text":"兩年後我們再去把它做調高的時候那天下大亂了我們立法院到最後變成一隻怪獸這個如果不接受憲法跟大法官的一個解釋的一個節制的話沒完沒了啊"},{"start":25338.124,"end":25350.535,"text":"現在進行逐條討論原住民保留第一禁法補償條例第三條維持現行條文第五條維持現行條文請宣讀第六條"},{"start":25352.157,"end":25381.176,"text":"審查會通過第6條一、本條例合法淨方補償金額度如下一、中華民國105年每公頃新台幣2萬元二、中華民國106年起每年每公頃新台幣3萬元三、中華民國114年起每年每公頃新台幣6萬元前項淨方補償金額度與合準補償面積不足一公頃者按面積比例發給並算至公頃下四位數為之"},{"start":25382.517,"end":25410.552,"text":"第一項致敬法補償金額度自中華民國114年起每兩年調整一次由中央主管機關參照中央主計機關發布施最近一年消費者物價指數較前次調整之前一年消費者物價指數成長率公告調整之但成長率為零或複數時不予調整委員陳瑩等20人提案第6條與審查會條文相同宣讀完畢"},{"start":25412.632,"end":25439.817,"text":"現在我們進行請盧委員現役發言主席、全國的主任大家好"},{"start":25441.121,"end":25462.969,"text":"原住民保留地全台近26萬公頃大多屬於非都市編定為林業用地或是使用分區為山坡地當族人要啃植、農作、開發土地的時候常遭遇區域計劃法、水利法、森林法或是山坡地保留條例的限制或者是裁法"},{"start":25464.042,"end":25482.072,"text":"而為了補償我們原住民的土地長期遭受許多法令的限制好不容易由當時的簡多明立委制定提案終於在民國105年通過公布了原住民保留地禁法補償條例才真正確立了禁法補償金的法源"},{"start":25483.759,"end":25507.902,"text":"當時是2萬元,隔年再調高到3萬元本是因為來自屏東的山地鄉深刻了解及體會到現行法令對我們原住民土地許多不合理的限制甚至不符合比例原則翻閱了110年一將巴魯爾在原民會的新聞的會刊他說我們的"},{"start":25508.735,"end":25531.77,"text":"原住民浸泊區域當時是6.2萬公頃他扮演了國土保安、涵養水源、生態保育等功能他當時的估算經濟效應是122.5億元再翻閱了期刊2001年英國的皮爾斯博士他是環境經濟的專家"},{"start":25535.387,"end":25557.417,"text":"他估算在一個原始林它的碳匯價值因為有地上的Biomass也就是生物質地下的Biomass包括死掉的一些腐植、砂石跟土壤所有計算來說原始林的價值是一公頃兩千美金這是2001年的價值那現在是2024年"},{"start":25559.278,"end":25581.084,"text":"也就是說105年到現在都未曾進行討論它的價值存在我們希望能夠回推到它所謂的土地正義所以提案的內容就是說114年1月1號開始我們調高到每公頃新台幣6萬元的來源是這樣子"},{"start":25582.793,"end":25606.394,"text":"然後增加了每兩年調整的一個機制也就是按照我們的消費者物價指數今天我們看到國民黨團跟民眾黨團全力支持我們原住民的土地正義我們感謝也感謝今天排到第三案我們全國族人都在等待這個土地正義的機會謝謝"},{"start":25610.653,"end":25615.201,"text":"謝謝盧憲一委員的發言接下來我們請登記第二號麥玉珍委員發言"},{"start":25633.82,"end":25648.879,"text":"主席本院同仁大家好今天我們在處理原住民保留禁地待補償的條例國民黨及民進黨原住民委員都在有在內政委員會"},{"start":25651.44,"end":25670.285,"text":"也依陳迎衡、吳麗華委員建議每公噸6萬元通過。在審查的階段,行政機關也都沒有反對的意見,也同意支持本案。我們不能理解的是,最後採用版本是"},{"start":25671.565,"end":25697.1,"text":"民進黨委員的法案沒有、沒想過反對卻民進黨黨團反對這是很荒謬因為我很不理解所以剛剛民進黨的吳思瑤委員也說這個提案違法現匯法財政據例法但我要提醒的是民進黨吳麗華委員"},{"start":25700.862,"end":25714.052,"text":"張這個法案提高就是6萬元也是在現場我們逐條審查的時候是我們共同一起通過的我們的連署裡面也包含吳世堯委員"},{"start":25715.493,"end":25730.381,"text":"莊瑞崇委員、鍾嘉斌委員都有連署我很難理解這一方面自己提的法案連署另一方面又說自己違法到底什麼邏輯所以我也請大家"},{"start":25731.982,"end":25758.764,"text":"支持這個法案也請我們各位委員支持法案因為大家都聯署有同意逐條審查的時候大家也是同意的本來我們高經委員提5萬塊我們就去討論說已經10年了都沒有去修所以大家討論後在內政委員所有的委員都同意6萬所以請大家支持這個法案謝謝"},{"start":25761.38,"end":25765.931,"text":"謝謝麥玉珍委員的發言接下來請登記第三號鍾嘉斌委員發言"},{"start":25780.694,"end":25801.435,"text":"主席、在場委員憲進今天我們審議的是原住民保留地禁法補助條例根據憲法第63條立法院有立法權、預算權等權所以從今天第6條來看第三項它明文規定必須根據物價指數每兩年物調一次"},{"start":25802.476,"end":25818.692,"text":"這符合了法律案普遍性反復性的原則尤其是在我們多項的立法例當中對於國民的法定授意都有如此的規定更何況這是針對原住民族他在特別犧牲的一種補償但是我們看這第6條的第1項他將金額從3萬"},{"start":25822.731,"end":25850.682,"text":"到5萬、6萬不等實質上它的執行結果就已經造成了政府支出的增加憲法第70條規定行政院所提預算案不得為增加支出之提議這是個法律案那難道我們只要不是預算案就可以這樣做嗎?不行1990年立法院通過一個決議要求政府加發公教人員半個月的年終獎金以最佳預算為之根據大法官4-264號的"},{"start":25852.985,"end":25869.274,"text":"決定這是違反憲法第70條要求政府為增加支出的提議好 那如果不限定是在預算案那我們在預算案當中比照法律案的方式逐條逐句修改可以嗎"},{"start":25870.427,"end":25897.501,"text":"去調整政府的行政院的預算當中的計劃內容我們進行預算項目的增減而不增加預算支出可以嗎?一樣不行。事至第39要決定規定行政權有編制預算的權利立法權不得去變更它的計劃內容而事實上從而造成的成敗歸屬不明責任政治無法建立"},{"start":25898.285,"end":25907.456,"text":"好了,既然比照法律案去修改我們的預算不可以,那麼用法律案直接來達成預算的效果可以嗎?"},{"start":25909.207,"end":25932.649,"text":"剛剛我們務政委員舉的例子根據我們2019年的財政紀律法為了匡正立法院透過立法權去造成破壞行政權的預算編制的決定所以我們財政紀律法做了以後的規定至此之後我們立法院的立法就受到這樣的限制所以這個進法補償條例我們要再特別的提出"},{"start":25933.51,"end":25951.943,"text":"由於它破壞了我們憲法當中的權力分立原則根據釋字第419號立法院的決議如果逾越了憲法所定的職權純屬建議這麼一個經法補償的良法美意我們希望能夠實現也不希望大家做的一決變成了建議"},{"start":25952.763,"end":25963.69,"text":"因此在這裏既然不是行政院提案無從退回行政院重審因此本院在這裏建議本院已請行政院重新提出再為審議方式上策以上謝謝"},{"start":25968.607,"end":25986.134,"text":"謝謝鍾嘉斌委員的發言報告委員會現在我們進行保留條文第6條處理由於審查的條文與陳寅等委員淨附二讀之提案條文相同因此我們就一併處理依協商的結論進行表決現在按鈴7分鐘請分發表決卡"},{"start":26270.265,"end":26296.712,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":26347.91,"end":26352.202,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":26388.387,"end":26402.495,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":26420.967,"end":26437.259,"text":"報告委員會請問每一位委員是不是都拿到表決卡?都拿到現在我們表決審查會條文與陳寅委員等提案條文現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決開始時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":26457.337,"end":26465.566,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":26511.821,"end":26525.512,"text":"是審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?報告審查會應付的行政委員嗎?"},{"start":26599.855,"end":26618.483,"text":"報告院會新的報告表決結果在場委員106位贊成60位反對46位贊成者多數作以下之宣告第六條照審查會與陳穎委員等提案條文通過報告院會全案經過二讀現有國民黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們請宣讀二讀這條文"},{"start":26627.557,"end":26656.596,"text":"第6條,依本條例何方進方補償金額度如下?一、中華民國105年,每公頃新台幣2萬元。二、中華民國106年起,每年每公頃新台幣3萬元。三、中華民國114年起,每年每公頃新台幣6萬元。且向進方補償金額度與何選補償面積不足一公頃者按面積比例發給並算至公頃下四位數為之。"},{"start":26657.697,"end":26680.376,"text":"第一項致敬發補償金額度自中華民國114年起每兩年調整一次由中央主管機關參照中央主計機關發布之最近一年消費者物價指數較前次調整之前一年消費者物價指數成長率公告調整之但成長率為0或負數時不予調整宣讀完畢"},{"start":26684.127,"end":26696.732,"text":"三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有文字修正我們決議原住民保留地禁法補償條例第6條條文修正通過"},{"start":26703.991,"end":26724.842,"text":"報告院會現在完成立法程序之後委員登記發言每位委員發言兩分鐘我們開始我們進行截止登記第一位我們先請高金素美委員發言非常謝謝院長"},{"start":26726.653,"end":26745.672,"text":"也謝謝在場的支持原住民土地正義的委員們我會記得你們謝謝4月17日我在內政委員會排審進法補償5月2日朝野協商感謝國民黨團、民眾黨團一路以來的支持"},{"start":26746.613,"end":26770.221,"text":"我也要謝謝在內政委員會裡面的民進黨委員們美會委員、僑會委員你們在委員會裡面的支持感謝你們 謝謝禁法補償是典型的原住民轉型正義憲法是保障人民私有的財產反正是限制人民的私有財產使用就必須要給予補償"},{"start":26771.943,"end":26794.281,"text":"但是雖然剛剛是用表決的方式透過了禁法補償我在這裡仍然感覺到非常的遺憾跟痛心因為民進黨黨團對於原住民族的土地正義用這種表決的方式來拖延通過我感到非常的遺憾"},{"start":26795.322,"end":26803.366,"text":"禁法補償花太多錢了嗎?去年禁法補償7.2萬公頃每公頃3萬塊總共只補償了21.6億今天我們的表決通過每公頃6萬塊也不過43.2億我們來看一下投資光電的雲豹幫集團砍樹重電、圈農地重電"},{"start":26819.673,"end":26828.92,"text":"費養於重電、雲報幫2016年資本額才10萬塊、2024年市值已經百億了。而我們原住民幫全台灣守護環境、守護空氣品質,一年一公頃才6萬。我們的政府護航的能源集團破壞了環境,卻灑豆成菌,淨法補償花太多錢了嗎?原住民住在這裡,謝謝大家支持淨法補償!"},{"start":26855.658,"end":26858.08,"text":"接下來我們請登記第二號黃人委員發言黃人委員發言"},{"start":26881.993,"end":26905.079,"text":"謝謝院長 請謝謝我們所有朝野政黨能夠在這一次我們原住民的禁法補償條例能夠三讀通過此來的正義我們全國的族人的期待就在今天得到了答案謝謝大家因為原因"},{"start":26906.679,"end":26928.464,"text":"原住民保留地之制度在以保障原住民的生計為當時特定的區域計劃法及區域計劃法之實為考量原住民的特殊性所以即將由原住民保留地編定為林地導致原住民無法基於種植作物生存"},{"start":26930.085,"end":26950.279,"text":"有損原住民保留地的保障與原住民的生計的目的。第二,為保護區或蓄水延期特定以外者,乃有許多礙於地形地貌而難以開發與墾植,迄今為此自然零零足。"},{"start":26950.979,"end":26972.085,"text":"牧或種植的覆蓋不利於農耕之土地尤其對於現行每年每公頃發給補償金的每公頃3萬塊根本無法平衡萬物其非的物價與原住民的生計所以例如我們"},{"start":26972.845,"end":26986.132,"text":"台東長濱鄉、花蓮秀嶺鄉、南投仁愛鄉等全國各地為族人的反映本是基於擔負族人的使命所以在"},{"start":26987.711,"end":27001.896,"text":"提原住民保留地進法補償條例第三條及第六條修正草案其內容明確指出是民國希望114年1月1日起能夠調高進法補償的每公頃的6萬塊以上"},{"start":27012.923,"end":27036.716,"text":"謝謝黃仁委員的發言接下來請登記第3號盧憲一委員發言謝謝主席瑪迪亞·吉羅蓋卡卡摩恩、瑪瑪德納瑪普勒"},{"start":27039.38,"end":27062.776,"text":"今天是臺灣原住民重要的日子在去年投入選舉期間只要到原鄉各地很多族人用殷切期盼的眼睛、眼神、雙手看著我、握著我的手說先醫如果您有機會到國會一定要想辦法幫我們把三萬塊提高"},{"start":27064.558,"end":27085.191,"text":"我會努力看看當時在成立競選總部的時候韓國瑜當時有走到我的競選總部來我有跟他說一個秘密可是到現在我還是沒有跟他說其實那時候我要跟他說的秘密就是說如果我有一個請求你一定要答應我今天韓院長"},{"start":27086.272,"end":27112.587,"text":"做到了我很高興我也做到了也做到了當時2月1號來這邊參加就職的簡東明委員也是那一天是我最後一次見到他感謝他交付我這個任務說我上任之後這是我第一個也是最重要的工作我要告訴他阿嬤我終於做到了謝謝你幫助憲醫完成大家的夢想"},{"start":27115.063,"end":27132.904,"text":"今天感謝我們國民黨的堅持與努力為了實現原住民的土地正義本席以其他原住民立委盡最大的努力終於盼到這次的土地正義雖然屢次遭受到"},{"start":27134.079,"end":27134.539,"text":"蘇清泉委員發言"},{"start":27177.588,"end":27192.036,"text":"院長、各位同仁還有我們全國原住民的朋友大家好第8屆立委的時候我們原住民提出的《進華補償條例》提案人是簡東明"},{"start":27193.733,"end":27218.978,"text":"蘇清泉、還有高金等等還有我們當時第8屆國民黨的立委一起來促成我還當時我本人還去總統府跟馬總統講這個條例的緣由那從那個時候開始實施今天再一次的我也是共同提案非常高興這個進化補償條例提高到6萬塊事實上"},{"start":27223.397,"end":27227.543,"text":"併同的9分數、併同的1分數是台灣最多的。我也很高興有立法也給你按個讚。近年來因為俄烏、戰爭、什麼營務料等等都提升,"},{"start":27241.977,"end":27261.471,"text":"那剛剛有提到平地照領事實上在原住民進華補償之後平地照領已經沒有鼓勵了啦所以在這邊跟大家也報告一下那從明年度開始能夠每公頃6萬塊這是非常好因為我們現在還在講碳費、碳稅"},{"start":27264.535,"end":27293.13,"text":"貪綜合、貪平衡、2050要歸零這個是高難度也很高興原住民有這些保留地還可以跟我們也在這個探世紀裡面提供他們的貢獻我們賴政府積極的、正面的應該要提出原住民的土地及自然資源的權利這個是非常重要"},{"start":27294.332,"end":27301.118,"text":"禁訴制定原住民土地跟海域等等。我們的原住民朋友蘇清泉永遠支持你們!謝謝!"},{"start":27327.587,"end":27338.398,"text":"親愛的院會主席、韓院長、各位同仁、新聞界的朋友今天此時此刻我們通過了三讀通過我們通過了禁法補償條例正式的三讀通過還給我們原住民的朋友一個土地正義我們感謝所有的原住民朋友"},{"start":27352.332,"end":27376.945,"text":"中華民國105年每供請新台幣2萬、中華民國106年每供請新台幣3萬物價指數的增加在我們原始的條文裡頭包括了前項禁法補償金額度對於核准補償面積不足一供請者按面積比例撥給並算至供請以下4倍數為主"},{"start":27378.446,"end":27400.149,"text":"這個事在105年跟106年時過那麼久所有的物價通膨這麼的高我們理當應該要好好的來照顧原住民的朋友的生活因為原住民的朋友每一年在增加占比全國人口的可以說是即將3%比例所以沒有理由不還給"},{"start":27401.25,"end":27402.071,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":27426.288,"end":27451.476,"text":"將第一項的禁法補償金額從114年起每兩年提調整一次由中央主管機關單位來主計單位來發佈值以最近一次的CPI來作為調整真正的達到照顧原住民這一點是非常的重要所以我們謝謝所有的同仁還給原住民"},{"start":27455.905,"end":27456.885,"text":"謝謝楊瓊瑩委員的發言接下來請登記第6號武麗華委員發言"},{"start":27485.854,"end":27507.702,"text":"德佛德佛亞、阿瑪博拉、薩寶、伊純翁等。各位專案朋友,禁法補償金提高的修法剛剛已經三讀通過,這是土地正義的彰顯。我們的部落祈禱說:「土地是血,山林是家。」千百年來,我們原住民守護山林、涵養水源,"},{"start":27509.022,"end":27534.607,"text":"但是近100年來由於我們的土地受到限制利用竟然落得被人取消窮的只剩下土地過去4年立法對於如何提高原保地的價值做了很多的質詢、很多的努力其中也包括如何讓原保地成為銀行可接受的擔保柄我多次的質詢因應"},{"start":27536.227,"end":27558.773,"text":"我們國家正面臨碳匯、碳權的交易、造齡獎勵金提高的挑戰我認為禁法補償金必須要因應調整才能夠避免我們砍大樹種小樹來影響治山防洪的成效此時此刻我想要感謝所有不在場為這件事努力的人"},{"start":27559.773,"end":27579.254,"text":"在我們過去我們有土地、我們有地球公民協會、有田丘景委員等人他們一直倡議我們要護齡、我們要禁法一直到2001年立法院第一次出現了曾華德立委禁法補償條例的版本"},{"start":27581.016,"end":27607.454,"text":"二零零六年屏東縣政府曹啟宏縣長用自己的現款實施禁法補償直到二零一五年我們由簡東明委員領銜的禁法補償條例終於三讀通過此時蔡英文總統當選開始實施禁法補償金我想說的是今天很高興所有的黨團很多的委員我們一同來支持"},{"start":27614.199,"end":27632.833,"text":"謝謝大家謝謝吳麗華委員的發言接下來請登記第7號林倩儀委員發言院長我們立院同仁"},{"start":27634.059,"end":27652.751,"text":"今天2024民國113年6月4日我們通過了原住民保留地禁法補償條例修正案這一個修正案通過將每公頃3萬元的補償提升至6萬元"},{"start":27654.611,"end":27675.52,"text":"這是社會對援助民族的承諾更是讓大家透過這樣子一個條例來認識禁法補償對土地的守護這一路上的進展並非沒有挑戰在今年4月17號內政委員會已經初審過條例補償金的調整"},{"start":27680.851,"end":27697.78,"text":"五月二號的朝野協商也達成了共識但是在最後一刻我們又碰到了民進黨的反悔可見原住民的公平正義我們還有一大段路要走"},{"start":27700.031,"end":27727.114,"text":"今天當國民黨和民眾黨的堅持獲得認可並且成功地推動了條例的修正我們不僅見證了台灣民主的活力也感受到為正義努力的活力對眾多的原住民而言這不僅是經濟補償的正義更是對我們祖先土地的一份尊重與認同"},{"start":27729.352,"end":27754.702,"text":"這份轉型正義的進程意味著我們的聲音被聽見意味著原住民的權益被重視在今後的日子裡我們將繼續攜手前進確保每一步都朝著公平更包容的未來邁進謝謝每一位支持的委員員感謝你們與我們一起寫歷史阿蕾"},{"start":27759.001,"end":27784.07,"text":"謝謝林倩儀委員的發言接下來請登記第8號柯建銘委員發言第8號柯建銘委員發言第8號柯建銘委員念三聲不在場接下來請登記第9號鍾嘉斌委員發言第9號鍾嘉斌委員發言"},{"start":27786.814,"end":27791.618,"text":"鍾嘉斌委員發言三次不在場接下來請登記第10號陳瑩委員發言"},{"start":27825.602,"end":27829.885,"text":"主席、主席、主席"},{"start":27844.216,"end":27857.854,"text":"主席、各位同仁我們今天通過的原住民保留地禁法補償每公頃提高至6萬元的提案是我和吳立華委員的版本也是我和吳委員始終如一堅持的立場"},{"start":27859.136,"end":27883.226,"text":"五月二日黨團協商的結論是每公請提高至6萬元我也毫不猶豫地簽名表示支持這個就是我的態度而今天更是排除萬難投下贊成票更是我從政以來始終如意的證明就是我一直和我們原住民族站在一起"},{"start":27884.977,"end":27908.643,"text":"但是在這整個過程當中呢有人刻意用片段的資訊和曲解的資料刻意帶風向說我和吳立華委員反對禁法補償的修法這陣子我花了多少時間、多少力氣跟行政院的高層不斷溝通但我在這幾天確實承受了非常大的壓力就連睡覺都被禁法補償這四個字驚醒"},{"start":27911.124,"end":27933.654,"text":"故意抹黑我和吳麗華的人做出如此惡劣的操作根本就是良心被苟啃同時我還是要把有些外界對於禁法補償的曲解再重申一次原住民族是土地原始的擁有者因為種種因素現在原住民土地的使用被受到限制請問有誰希望自己的土地被受到限制使用呢?"},{"start":27934.654,"end":27953.491,"text":"這些土地如果可以讓我們活化的話那是絕對遠遠超過禁法補償的價值那我們也就不一定要依賴這樣的補償了今天禁法補償三讀通過的同時我也希望國土規劃應該要好好的檢討"},{"start"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謝謝謝謝陳穎委員的發言接下來我們請登記第11號鄭天才委員發言"},{"start":27990.714,"end":28013.04,"text":"院長、各位委員禁法補償條例的爭取非常非常的艱辛從104年12月18日馬英九執政的時候的三讀通過也是一樣非常非常的艱辛這一次的禁法補償的修正113年3月20日開始到113年4月3日"},{"start":28018.51,"end":28034.965,"text":"高金素美委員鄭天才、史拉卡趙、還有我們劉細婷、還有盧憲毅、林倩琦、還有朱清泉、黃仁我們共同的提案、還有我們吳立華分個人的提案"},{"start":28036.179,"end":28045.525,"text":"經過4月17日感謝我們召委在內政委員會、經濟委員會聯席會議謝謝我們兩個委員會的委員的支持在113年4月17日內政經濟委員會審查完之後我們承營委員在4月24日提出他的提案"},{"start":28064.316,"end":28087.307,"text":"4月26日立法院的院會進覆二讀並按協商要謝謝高精素美委員在5月2日的時候雖然還沒有過夫一起陳委員你的提案那時候還沒有過夫一起真的是要感謝高精素美委員她把你列入"},{"start":28088.067,"end":28113.982,"text":"列入在草野協商的提案所以我們5月31日是一個關鍵的時刻5月31日國民黨團列入今天的議案所以今天才可以表決所以非常謝謝我們韓院長堅持按照議事規則今天能夠三讀通過非常謝謝"},{"start":28120.382,"end":28139.71,"text":"謝謝鄭天才委員的發言報告委員會登記發言委員均已發言完畢報告委員會現在我們進入討論事項第四案地方民意代表費用知己及村里長事務補助費補助條例部分條文修正案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":28140.578,"end":28156.728,"text":"本院內政委員會於113年5月8日召開全英委員會議審查本案由吳兆景委員其名擔任主席除邀請提案委員說明提案要旨並邀請相關機關練習報告並備質詢經報告及詢談完畢,選舉進行逐條審查與會員於聽取說明及經整密討論後將全案並按審查完畢"},{"start":28165.593,"end":28189.646,"text":"全面併案審查完畢,擬具審查報告提報院會討論,院會討論前不需交由黨團協商。院會討論時,由吳正吉委員起名補充說明。宣讀完畢。請召集委員吳起名委員補充說明。吳補充說明本案經審查會決議,不需再交由黨團協商。請問院會有無異議?"},{"start":28193.598,"end":28206.87,"text":"沒有異議本案進行審查會意見處理現在進行逐條討論地方民意代表費用知己及村里長事務補助費補助條例請宣讀第三條"},{"start":28208.311,"end":28226.185,"text":"第三條,地方民意代表每月得知兩次研究費不得超過下列標準一、指消市議會議長參照指消市長月份及工費二、指消市議會副議長參照指消市副市長本份專業交集及主管職務交集三、指消市議會議員"},{"start":28227.766,"end":28239.653,"text":"參照直銷市政府所屬一級機關首長本副專業家級及主管職務家級四、縣市議會議長參照縣市長本副專業家級及主管職務家級五、縣市議會副議長參照副縣市長本副專業家級及主管職務家級"},{"start":28248.979,"end":28274.271,"text":"六、縣市議會議員參照縣市政府一級單位主管請認定11職等本分一級專業家級及主管職務家級其鄉鎮市民代表會主席參照鄉鎮市長本分專業家級及主管職務家級八、鄉鎮市民代表會副主席參照縣市縣甲市副市長本分專業家級及主管職務家級"},{"start":28275.271,"end":28291.485,"text":"九、鄉鎮市民代表會代表參照鄉鎮市公所單位主管兼任第八職等培訓一級專業家級及主管職務家級且向所稱專業家級謝職一般公務人員專業家級宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第五條"},{"start":28297.782,"end":28323.807,"text":"第5條 地方民意代表因職務關係等由各該地方民意機關編列預算指引其健康檢查費、保險費、衛民服務費、春節外勞經濟出國考察費指向市議會一種、副議者、縣市議會一種、副議者及鄉鎮市民代表會主席、副主席等由各該地方民意機關編列預算指引因公知、出資、特別費"},{"start":28324.887,"end":28350.583,"text":"前二項費用編列最高標準如附表第五條附表對象指向市議會議長、副議長及議員項目健康檢查費每人每年金額單位新台幣元16000元保險費每人每年15000元衛民服務費每人每年4萬元春節慰勞金每人每年一個半月之研究費"},{"start":28351.403,"end":28372.053,"text":"出國考察費每人每年15萬元、特別費每人每月一種20萬元、複一種14萬元、縣市議會一種、複一種及議員、健康檢查費每人每年16000元、保險費每人每年15000元、為民服務費每人每月2萬元、"},{"start":28373.214,"end":28399.067,"text":"村警衛料金每人每年1.5元之研究費、出國考察費每人每年10萬元、特別費每人每月一種88,000元、附一種44,000元。江鄭市民代表會主席、副主席及代表健康檢查費每人每年16,000元、保險費每人每年15,000元、衛民服務費每人每月5,000元、"},{"start":28400.368,"end":28412.199,"text":"村勤未落金每人每年一個半月之研究費、出國考察費每人每年5萬元、特別費每人每月一、人口數未滿5萬成、主席23,700元、副主席11,850元"},{"start":28417.003,"end":28430.95,"text":"二、人口數在5萬以上未滿10萬者,主席25000元,副主席12500元。三、人口數在10萬以上未滿20萬者,主席26300元,副主席13150元。四、人口數在20萬以上者,主席27600元,副主席13800元。"},{"start":28441.816,"end":28468.692,"text":"祝一、健康檢查費按年編列、地方名代表應檢舉實施、公務人員一般健康檢查之醫療機構單去核銷祝二、特別費按月編列、地方名代表應檢舉核銷祝三、保險費出入考察費按年編列、地方名代表應檢舉核銷祝四、直銷市縣市議會之原住民議員、衛民服務費每人每月再增給"},{"start":28469.853,"end":28472.395,"text":"再增加20%宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第6條"},{"start":28477.932,"end":28504.524,"text":"第6條 直轄市議會縣市議會的編列議員助理補助費補助給議員聘用助理助理補助費總額直轄市議會議員每人每月不得超過新台幣32萬元縣市議會議員每人每月不得超過新台幣16萬元並與全國公務人員各種將近年度通案調整時比照其通案調整幅度調整"},{"start":28505.224,"end":28522.15,"text":"調整後之助理補助費總額及實施日期由內宣部公告之。以前向助理補助費補助聘用之助理,全家市議會議員每人應至少聘用6人,縣市議會議員每人應至少聘用2人,均與議員同進退。"},{"start":28524.631,"end":28538.779,"text":"議員得聘以日薪計支助理其日薪累計支月總支出不得超過傑向助理補助費用總額四分之一傑向助理使用《勞動基準法》之規定其勞工保險費、全民健康保險費"},{"start":28539.839,"end":28562.185,"text":"勞工退休準備金、加班費、補休假、加班費、資遣費及職業災害補償等依法令應由僱主負擔費用部分由議會與不超過第一項規定總額20%內編列預算指引之並得以所領補助費制度、比較軍公教委員年終工作獎金酌給春前未落金"},{"start":28563.585,"end":28581.854,"text":"議會應就各議員有關第一項、第二項助理補助費總額與分配情形助理聘用關係及第三項所列各項費用之支應情形建立內部控制制度宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第七條"},{"start":28582.759,"end":28599.729,"text":"第7條 村里長由鄉鎮市區公所編列村里長事務補助費每村里每月新台幣5萬元與原住民族地區之村里每月再增加20%並於全國公務人員各種將近年度通案調整時"},{"start":28600.549,"end":28627.079,"text":"比照及通案調整、幅度調整調整後之事務補助費總額及實施日期由內政部公告之村里長應持有關係應由鄉鎮市區公所編列預算、均應其保險費並得編列預算、均應其健康檢查費其標準均比照地方名代表鄉鎮市區公所編列傾向保險費預算應包含投保保險金額"},{"start":28627.979,"end":28656.005,"text":"新台幣500萬元以上傷害保險之保險費金額村里長除有正當理由為難投保或為阻擾投保傷害保險外於登年度遣去支領保險費時其擬具應包含投保保險金額新台幣500萬元以上傷害保險之保險費村里長由商政市區公所參照軍公教委員年終工作獎金發給規定編令預算於春節期間"},{"start":28657.125,"end":28674.319,"text":"令發表稅務補儲費其金額以第一項稅務補儲費數額為基準計算之該計數由內政部編列預算指引之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀增訂第七條之一"},{"start":28674.912,"end":28697.048,"text":"第七條之一村里長任職滿六屆且年滿65歲者應給予外勞經濟表揚且度級診療辦法由內政部訂定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第八條維持現行條文第九條維持現行條文請宣讀第十條"},{"start":28698.018,"end":28718.053,"text":"第十條 本條例處中外民國98年7月8日修正公布之第七條第一項及第三項自99年1月1日施行107年4月25日修正公布之第七條第三項及第五項自107年12月25日施行111年5月4日修正公布條文"},{"start":28718.593,"end":28729.717,"text":"自111年12月25日施行、113年6月4日修正這條文、自114年1月1日施行外、自公佈日施行宣讀完畢第四條照審查會條文通過報告院會全案經過二讀現由民進黨黨團、國民黨黨團分別提案繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議?沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀這條文"},{"start":28748.206,"end":28775.296,"text":"第三條,地方民意代表每月得支兩次援救費不得超過下列標準一、直轄市議會一長參照直轄市長月份及公費二、直轄市議會副議長參照直轄市副市長本份專業佳績及主管職務佳績三、直轄市議會議員參照直轄市政府所屬疫情機關首長本份專業佳績及主管職務佳績"},{"start":28776.216,"end":28784.6,"text":"四、縣市議會議長參照縣市長本縫專業家級及主管職務佳績五、縣市議會副議長參照副縣市長本縫專業家級及主管職務佳績六、縣市議會議員參照縣市政府一級單位主管"},{"start":28795.365,"end":28818.61,"text":"秦鎮定、徐一池等本封一級、專業家級及主管勤務家級其鄉鎮市民代表會主席參照鄉鎮市長本封專業家級及主管勤務家級八、鄉鎮市民代表會副主席參照縣小市副市長本封專業家級及主管勤務家級九、鄉鎮市民代表會代表"},{"start":28819.45,"end":28847.301,"text":"參照鄉鎮市公所單位主管、監政第八指等百分之一級專業家級及主管職務家級請向所佔專業家級、企值一般公務人員專業家級。第五條,地方民意代表因職務關係,得由各個地方民意機關編列預算,遵應其健康檢查費、保險費、衛民服務費、春節溫暖金及出國考察費、職強生育費一種、負一種、"},{"start":28849.242,"end":28866.273,"text":"縣市議會議長、副議長及鄉鎮市民代表會主席、副主席等由各個地方民意機關編列預算支應因公知處之特別費前項費用編列最高標準如附表第五條附表如二讀附表"},{"start":28868.226,"end":28893.917,"text":"第6條 直轄市議會、縣市議會的編列議員助理補助費補助各位議員聘用助理 助理補助費總額直轄市議會議員每人每月不得超過新台幣32萬元縣市議會議員每人每月不得超過新台幣16萬元並因於全國公務員員各種將近年度通案調整時比正期通案調整幅度調整"},{"start":28894.857,"end":28910.391,"text":"調審後這助理補助費總額及實施日期由內政部公告之以前項助理補助費補助聘用這助理全家是議會議員每人應至少聘用6人縣市議會議員每人應至少聘用2人"},{"start":28910.911,"end":28939.938,"text":"均與議員同進退。議員得聘以日薪介助助理,其日薪累計之月總支出,不得超過其向助理補助費用總額四分之一。其向助理須要勞動精準法制規定,其勞工保險費、全民健康保險費、勞工退休準備金加班費、不休假加班費、資險費及職業災害補償等依法令應由雇主負擔費用部分。"},{"start":28940.618,"end":28969.936,"text":"由議會與部長獲第1項規定總額20%內編列預算支應支並得以所領補助費制度筆賬軍公教委員年終工作獎金註給春節外勞金。議會應就該議員有關第1項第二項助理補助費總額與分配情形、助理聘用關係及第3項所列各項費用徵徵情形建立內部控制制度。"},{"start":28972.096,"end":28989.032,"text":"第7條村里長由深圳市區公所編列村里長事務補助費馬村里每月新台幣5萬元與原住民族地區徵村里每月再增加20%並因與全國公務人員各種將近年度通案調整時"},{"start":28989.853,"end":29010.745,"text":"比照及通案調整、幅度調整、調整後之事務補助費總額及實施日期由內政部公告之村立長應職務關係應由鄉鎮市區公所編列預算支應其保險費並得編列預算支應其健康檢查費其標準均比照地方民意代表"},{"start":29012.286,"end":29036.144,"text":"鄉鎮市區公所編列前項保險費預算應包含投保保險金額新台幣500萬元以上傷害保險之保險費金額村里長主要正當理由為難投保或為阻礙投保傷害保險外於當年度前具支領保險費時其單據應包含投保保險金額新台幣500萬元以上傷害保險之保險費"},{"start":29037.646,"end":29056.887,"text":"村立者由商政市區公所參照軍工教育委員年終工作獎金發給博定編列預算於春節期間另發給事務補助費其金額以第一項事務補助費數額為基準計算支該支出由內政部編列預算指引支"},{"start":29059.229,"end":29070.781,"text":"第7條之一村里長任職滿六屆且年滿65歲者應給予慰勞經濟表揚且度節支給辦法由內政部訂定之"},{"start":29073.993,"end":29094.335,"text":"第十條本條例處中華民國98年7月8日修正公布之第七條第一項及第三項自99年1月1日實行107年4月25日修正公布之第七條第三項之第五項自107年12月25日實行111年5月4日修正公布條文"},{"start":29094.835,"end":29117.474,"text":"自111年12月25日施行、113年6月4日修正之條文、自114年1月1日施行外、自公佈日施行宣讀完畢報告委員會三讀院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有沒有文字修正我們決議"},{"start":29118.84,"end":29144.174,"text":"地方民意代表費用知己及村里長事務補助費補助條例增訂第7條至1條文並將第3條、第5條至第7條及第10條條文修正通過報告委員會我們現在休息10分鐘休息之後我們進行三讀後自發言現在休息"},{"start":29166.015,"end":29172.642,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":29231.873,"end":29238.238,"text":"允賢允賢允賢允賢允賢允賢允賢"},{"start":29252.329,"end":29271.524,"text":"董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長、"},{"start":29289.69,"end":29303.296,"text":"佛林教授佛林教授佛林教授佛林教授"},{"start":29327.858,"end":29353.911,"text":"葛國光、葛國光、葛國光、葛國光、葛國光、葛國光"},{"start":29364.906,"end":29367.927,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":29407.632,"end":29429.559,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":29450.009,"end":29453.246,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":29535.794,"end":29536.677,"text":"黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":29625.546,"end":29646.692,"text":"一對最讚,一對最讚,一對最讚,"},{"start":29724.266,"end":29733.109,"text":"現在我們繼續開會進行討論事項第4案完成立法程序後之發言並截止登記我們首先請登記第一號李燕秀委員發言"},{"start":29747.165,"end":29761.671,"text":"各位同仁我們落實地方自治從增加議會的量能及保障村里長開始做起今天很高興我們地方民意代表的費用知己以及村里長事務補助費的條例終於三讀通過了"},{"start":29762.731,"end":29779.071,"text":"我們更認為地方議員的助理費的制度調整﹐它不只是反映我們現在通膨的問題﹐更重要的是﹐在方向上我們要如何去落實地方自治﹐給予地方自治團體更多的資源﹐以及權力去落實地方自治的先決條件"},{"start":29780.613,"end":29808.406,"text":"為了守護民眾的權益增強地方議會的立法量能絕對有它的必要性在過去這段時間、過去這幾年包括空污的問題、食案的問題增加地方議會的立法量能如此地方議會才有足夠的後盾跟後勤去制定符合民眾權益的法案去捍衛符合民眾福祉的政策包括除了地方議會的助理費之外"},{"start":29809.466,"end":29828.961,"text":"更重要的是地方村里長在近幾年我們大家都知道他的任務其實是不斷加重的我們不斷要求村里長要進行公務推動配合各項行政協助的作業譬如在長照2.0李辦公室也結合了很多在地老化促進健康的功能"},{"start":29829.521,"end":29841.411,"text":"李慧琼等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案、委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具:「再生醫�"},{"start":29849.438,"end":29877.022,"text":"我們更對於介鄰六屆且年滿65歲的村里長我們要給予慰勞金跟表揚這也是為了鼓勵辛勞的里長們能夠繼續為地方提供服務如此才有機會中央跟地方齊心合作才能夠為民眾帶來福祉也是落實真正更完整地方自治的精神謝謝謝謝李燕秀委員的發言接下來我們請洪孟楷委員發言"},{"start":29888.612,"end":29899.066,"text":"感謝院長、各位立院同仁今天我們通過地方民意代表費用支付以及村里長事務補助費的補助條例三讀通過"},{"start":29899.884,"end":29920.041,"text":"其實追根究底就是讓地方民意代表助理費用能夠增加並且讓村里長的年終慰問金以及資深的獎勵金能夠明定在法律中重點只有一個我們希望中央地方一條心所有的村里長所有的地方民意代表都是我們共同服務台灣2350萬人我們一起來打拼"},{"start":29922.951,"end":29945.936,"text":"過去從民國95年以來制定公費助理補助員額其實都沒有調整過額度而民眾對於村里長的服務品質日益的提升也因此我們當然需要給予更多的資源來協助在這一次的修法縣市議員的助理費從原本的8萬元提升到16萬元直轄市的議員從原本的24萬元提升到32萬元"},{"start":29947.456,"end":29973.044,"text":"雖然只有僅僅8萬元的提升但是對於我們縣市議員、直資家市議員都希望能夠給予更實質的幫助增加彈性來改善過去低薪而造成的服務品質不佳再者年終慰問金這在村里長的部分每年有1.5個月的年終慰問金並且我們增加滿6屆並且年齡高達65歲以上有所謂的資深獎勵"},{"start":29974.364,"end":29992.573,"text":"在37個版本裡面我們可以整合並且在今天三讀通過我想這是我們大家共同的努力其實如同剛剛原名禁法條例2015年很多委員都提到簡東明委員當時首先的領銜提案而兩個月前簡東明委員已經不在人世"},{"start":29993.013,"end":30012.55,"text":"但是他精神依然永存跟我們所有的委員一起努力所以我想我們身為中央民意代表在職的一天我們都要盡心盡力為中華民國來打拼為台灣2350萬人共同努力這是我們責無旁貸的責任恭喜我們今天三讀立法通過"},{"start":30017.903,"end":30022.355,"text":"謝謝洪孟凱委員的發言接下來請登記第3號張家俊委員發言"},{"start":30042.998,"end":30070.868,"text":"院長、各位委員今天很高興順利通過了地方民意代表費用知己及村里長事務補助費補助條例里丟貝雅村丟是大家最熟悉的好鄰居也是協助地方政府推動政策與人民之間最好的聯絡窗口我們常常看到村里長不分晝夜相當繁瑣、辛苦"},{"start":30071.688,"end":30095.454,"text":"雖然很苦但是也往心裡吞無怨無悔的付出尤其新冠疫情期間村里長就是防疫的第一線他們負責第一線的訪視提供防疫物資的發放還要24小時的待命我們除了給予肯定之外也要給他們最實質的後勤資源"},{"start":30096.094,"end":30119.895,"text":"因此此次修法給村里長1.5個月的春節慰勞金每年可增加7.5萬與一般公務人員相當兼顧平衡原則慰勞村里長執行公務的辛勞也是對村里長最基本的尊重另外地方民意代表補助費從民國89年至今都未曾調整"},{"start":30120.936,"end":30133.64,"text":"二十四年來我們的基本薪資及公務人員薪資都已多次調漲因此我們主張直轄市議員助理補助費應由每個月24萬元提高到36萬元縣市議員補助則由8萬元提高至16萬元"},{"start":30141.122,"end":30159.434,"text":"另外再增加補助費總額20%為限以確保地方議會問政的品質更是實際保障更多助理的勞動基本權益讓我們一起讓台灣的政治更親民讓台灣更好加油謝謝張家俊委員的發言接下來請登記第4號羅廷瑋委員發言"},{"start":30179.726,"end":30203.495,"text":"謝謝韓院長以及謝謝我們堅守在立法院所有的同仁地方民意代表費用、知己以及村里長的事務費補助的一個案例、條例很高興今天能夠站在這邊見證這歷史性的一刻我從里長、議員選上了立法委員村里長的辛苦我最明白村里長總是站在第一線為鄉親服務"},{"start":30205.276,"end":30230.367,"text":"服務可以說是包羅萬象特別是前幾年疫情非常嚴重的時期很多中央的政策下來都需要里長在第一線來執行、追蹤、落實這一次的修正我們增加了春節期間的事務費及任職滿六屆且年滿65歲給予的慰勞金及表揚希望能夠稍稍體恤村里長的辛勞另外,無論是議員或是立委"},{"start":30231.147,"end":30250.103,"text":"背後都有強大的助理在支撐著通常助理們身兼多職除了選民服務還要處理行政、文稿撰寫、政策建議、法律提案、預算的提案或者是跟著我們到處東奔西走很多人會覺得怎麼可能可以做這麼多的事情但事實就是如此"},{"start":30250.783,"end":30265.929,"text":"我們有的助理薪水很低因為一直以來都受到總額的限制且從民國89年之後已經有20多年議員助理的待遇、福利都沒有調升社會新鮮人可能對於重振有崇高的目標但是踏進這個產業就被低薪給打敗了"},{"start":30268.57,"end":30283.808,"text":"我希望經過這一次的修正能夠大家逐漸扭轉這樣的想法讓更多有專業、熱情的人能夠選擇投入這一行最後我想和全國的村里長以及助理們說謝謝你們一直以來付出與努力"},{"start":30284.449,"end":30310.111,"text":"小羅在國會也在繼續爭取更多的民生議題法案大家一起為此加油我們也非常感謝村里長、議員助理大家在第一線的付出我們今天一起來堅持通過謝謝羅廷瑋委員的發言接下來請登記第5號楊瓊英委員發言"},{"start":30328.291,"end":30344.177,"text":"院會主席、韓院長、各位同仁、新聞界的朋友楊瓊瑩發言村里長及議員助理待遇調高落實公共服務的兩人我們非常的感動經過大家的努力終於三讀通過"},{"start":30345.057,"end":30374.597,"text":"因為我們在地方上常常聽到 議員請不助理啦 情緒不夠 也沒人要找這個真的是我們地方基層服務的很大的危機立中北更是了不起 在我們疫情當中 他們領著所有的林長在第一線我們給予最高的敬意 所以理當在所有的資源不足的情況之下 我們應當要給他資源來增加我們服務的這個正能量所以因此我們在這一次裡頭 最重要的"},{"start":30375.437,"end":30398.514,"text":"也就是我們讓我們的村里長他的待遇跟他的勞動權益都能夠得到一個比較公正比較一個平等的一個角色那所以因此本席來自地方我們在基層一再的來努力重點是這一次我們村里長的春節慰問金那麼原本的修案條文是要由地方政府來支應"},{"start":30399.375,"end":30419.286,"text":"本席認為這非常的不行中央修法理當由中央政府來支應所以我也感謝我們所有的藍、綠、白所有的委員大家一致的最後達成共識中央修法由中央政府來支應這筆預算真正的落實在我們的基層裡頭讓我們的量人服務"},{"start":30420.046,"end":30420.928,"text":"劉慧卿等21人、委員黃秀芳等21人、委員"},{"start":30435.33,"end":30435.73,"text":"蘇巧慧委員發言"},{"start":30467.296,"end":30471.061,"text":"董事長、董事長、董事長、董事長"},{"start":30482.728,"end":30509.866,"text":"主席、各位立院同仁今日三讀通過的地方民意代表費用知己及村里長事務補助費補助條例部分條文的修正草案我想這部法案的通過不只是讓地方議員和村里長有更合理的待遇與資源讓鄉親能夠有更好的服務更重要的是這部法案就是實踐委員會中心主義競訴立法的最好示範"},{"start":30511.227,"end":30536.544,"text":"5月8日內政委員會的委員們從早上9點到晚上7點半經歷超過10小時的法案審查馬拉松經過逐條的實質審查匯集了所有委員和部會的意見從近40個提案中終於達到跨黨派共識讓修正條文得以進入二讀、三讀這就是實質討論這也才是實質討論"},{"start":30541.508,"end":30557.703,"text":"雖然之前曾經有幾位委員的提案在委員會審查前就強行淨附二讀但當日委員會實質的討論、審查也正體現了民主的可貴我們在不同的內容中嘗試溝通、討論、尋找共識雖然過程中也會爭辯意見不同之處但最終都在實質的討論後擬具了共識"},{"start":30566.491,"end":30584.537,"text":"在這部法案中,我們調增議員助理費總額、地方民意代表衛民服務費、原住民地區村里長事務補助費以及直轄市縣市議會原住民議員衛民服務費,同時對於各項福利也都有所調增。"},{"start":30585.257,"end":30604.488,"text":"我們希望這部法案通過之後能藉由地方民代及村里長更多的資源能夠讓人民享有更好的服務最後感謝所有委員、不分黨派對於此法案的付出也感謝內政部、財政部等相關部會非常感謝大家繼續加油謝謝蘇巧慧委員的發言接下來請登記第7號李博義委員發言"},{"start":30633.114,"end":30633.643,"text":"謝謝"},{"start":30636.701,"end":30662.848,"text":"合理的資源、更好的服務我來自高雄市議會之前來自高雄市議會但是我來之前我已經看到其他縣市議會的議員助理費發生了很嚴重的問題從原本縣市議員的八萬塊的助理費他已經沒有辦法聘請最低工資兩萬七千四百五十塊第三名助理所以我們啟動這一個修法連帶"},{"start":30664.128,"end":30680.141,"text":"跟直轄市議員的助理費一併的來做相關的討論已經超過24年沒有做調整的助理費在基本工資在蔡英文政府調整三次將近10%"},{"start":30683.312,"end":30691.415,"text":"軍公教調整工資將近10%基本工資從15000多塊從馬英九時期22K調整到現在27450元在現在年輕人出入職場的薪資是3.5萬明顯的24年沒有調整的地方助理的補助費應該來做一個完整的討論那也經過在5月8號"},{"start":30709.861,"end":30725.282,"text":"我們所有內政委員會逐一的來審查37個委員的版本之後重點是跟行政部門共同把這個金額可以擬定出來才完成在內政委員會"},{"start":30726.443,"end":30743.433,"text":"不需要經過協商進入到我們本會來做知己條例的討論我覺得這個才是正常的國會運作所以感謝所有內政委員會包含支持"},{"start":30744.033,"end":30765.52,"text":"地方民貸助理費用以及最辛苦的我們所有的村里長年節的事務補助費7.5萬我們會持續的為地方的建設發展來謝謝李博義委員的發言接下來請登記第8號吳佩義委員發言"},{"start":30785.346,"end":30800.631,"text":"好 謝謝主席地方民意代表費用知己及村里長事務補償費的條例的修法是我進到立法院之後第一個修法的提案所以今天在這裡我要特別的感謝內政委員會吳啟明召委以及所有的委員"},{"start":30801.831,"end":30807.397,"text":"這一個提案的版本超過37位本會立委的提案就是因為在內政委員會我們經歷了逐條審查討論歷時超過10個小時的討論最後達到的共識所以今天在院會二三讀各個黨派的成員在場"},{"start":30820.411,"end":30846.599,"text":"沒有任何的異議全數達成共識來通過所以我們看到關注政治的年輕人不只在立法院外的青鳥其實有非常多的年輕人把自己的生命、生涯投注在政治工作裡面我們在場的立委、理當更有感受我們站在這裡之所以能夠質詢我們對法案很多資料相關的研究我們在基層做的每一個服務都有我們的團隊的努力"},{"start":30847.959,"end":30875.595,"text":"我自己是青年的工作政治代表者之一我感謝國家以及社會給予我們這樣的資源才讓我們這樣清白從政的年輕人有能力能夠來為社會、為公眾來服務所以我們更加的知道我們所使用的哪一筆資源我們都要謹慎的來使用今天提出的修法版本我們的主張是合理的資源、有尊嚴的待遇"},{"start":30876.656,"end":30890.727,"text":"然後必須要提出更好的服務所以我也希望在本次的條例修法通過之後這一次的直轄市議員的助理費用我們希望從24萬提升到32萬那縣市議員從8萬提升到16萬就是希望能夠讓地方自治的團體每一個議員團隊對於社會可以有更多的付出那我們每一個民意代表包括地方議員及立法委員"},{"start":30903.757,"end":30908.678,"text":"我們對自己也要有更加嚴格的自律才不會愧對國人對我們的期待謝謝"},{"start":30943.988,"end":30973.56,"text":"好,謝謝主席各位同仁提高從政人員的青年讓臺灣的政治更加親民合理的待遇是必然今天修正地方民意代表會用知己及村里長事務補助會補助條例來三讀通過也相信朝野立委都樂見其成近來物價實物上漲基本工資不斷的調升地方民代及村里長的研究會與離村里長的事務會也該這次來比照辦理"},{"start":30974.295,"end":31003.639,"text":"本期出生於基層民代從代表、議員一直到國會議員深知基層民代為民服務爭取公平爭議但基層民代的待遇卻不見公平本次修法前在89年直轄市議員的研究會就已經有主管職務加級大立辦縣市議員及鄉鎮市民代表的研究會至今沒有比照我們是中央的立法機關民代地方的議員代表也是地方立法機關的代議士為了使標準趨於一致避免一國多次"},{"start":31004.295,"end":31032.567,"text":"本席也再次在這次修法提案第三條修正讓縣市議員、鄉鎮市民代表研究會可以加入主管職務加級與網美會與徐欣穎委員主張一同也感謝獲得委員會同仁的支持另外幾個修法重點在第五條讓我們直轄市議員、縣市議員還有鄉鎮市民代表、衛民服務會均可以往上來提升"},{"start":31033.291,"end":31052.784,"text":"第六條是針對芝加市縣市議員的助理會用也可以提高讓我們的議員代表讓我們的議員可以有更彈性的這樣的一個空間也可以有更多的對助理的專業上的一個肯定跟鼓勵然後在第七條跟第七條之一"},{"start":31053.542,"end":31069.156,"text":"讓我們的村里長在春節時間加花一個半月的這樣的一個事務補助會當作當成為春節慰問金且滿六屆年滿65歲加花慰勞金及表揚我相信這是很多委員大家集體的共識"},{"start":31093.385,"end":31096.806,"text":"謝謝劉建國委員發言接下來請登記第10號王美惠委員發言"},{"start":31110.614,"end":31132.587,"text":"謝謝、感謝、感謝、謝謝。我們各位當年大家好。今天看到,說實在,各位看到吵吵鬧鬧,看到這個規定的時候,說實在,我相信,我們全國的百姓都非常地感厚。所以看到剛才,我們民意代表,"},{"start":31133.359,"end":31146.102,"text":"我們的理事長、衛生委員會來賓可以在過年可以給他們一個委員金可以在這個過程當中在國會設備、在委員會裡面大家討論討論你的意見跟我的意見不同你的意見跟我的差太多但是在這個過程當中我們都是要如何可以給"},{"start":31162.005,"end":31184.393,"text":"二、行政院院長報告施政方針並備質詢 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：一、行政院院院長報告施政"},{"start":31186.471,"end":31209.843,"text":"結論出來這是非常高興的事件。今天在立法院內可以來同過這三道的選舉,對我們地方議員的助力和服務,我相信各管制都會品質更好、服務更到位,尤其我們的理事長,"},{"start":31210.963,"end":31224.954,"text":"鄧固依來、某立某美為大家來服務。我相信若立定高雷,讓立定可以過年時,有一個貴賓金、一個獎勵7萬元,也定義讓他一個高雷為鄧固依來為大家來服務。"},{"start":31254.934,"end":31257.916,"text":"三種都不正義時,在這過程中,所以未來,我們應該是主條討論,能有這個結果,我們就保存下去。感謝大家、謝謝大家。"},{"start":31275.899,"end":31291.426,"text":"謝謝院長、各位同仁朝野合作踏出成功的一步福國利民、民生優先我們做到了地方村里長是推最貼近人民的生活一年二十四年一年三百六十五年"},{"start":31291.986,"end":31313.407,"text":"歐布西塔塔蒂蒂、寶酸寶海等。在年底能夠收到由行政院發的一個年終慰問金的紅包,這是一份心意,更是一份感謝。而24年沒有調整過的地方議會的助理費用,終於也能夠全面合理提升,這更是馳來的正義。"},{"start":31314.528,"end":31332.625,"text":"我自己過去擔任政治幕僚我也曾任台北市議員我深切的瞭解地方的議員助理長期低薪、流動率高而且這些年輕世代懷抱著對政治的熱情但是他們的工作權益卻需要政府進一步來照顧"},{"start":31333.946,"end":31348.97,"text":"所以今天合理來調整待遇就能夠為臺灣公共領域的青年攬財青年流財創造出更好的誘因也正面的來提升地方議會的問政及服務的專業量能而在審查議案的過程我們實踐了委員會的中心主義有討論才有民主沒有快轉跳號也沒有閹割審查地方民代自己調理"},{"start":31363.574,"end":31376.729,"text":"落實了議會運作的正常化這才是社會對於立法院的期待所以修法通過之後我們合理給資源提供更好的服務我要告訴你們"},{"start":31378.311,"end":31396.735,"text":"大家辛苦了這一個遲來的過年的小小的紅包從今年開始行政院來買單我也要鼓勵所有年輕世代的議員助理們我們一起發揮熱情一起為臺灣義無反顧謝謝大家辛苦內政委員會的同仁謝謝謝謝吳思堯委員的發言接下來請登記第12號徐宇珍委員發言"},{"start":31432.581,"end":31461.594,"text":"謝謝院長以及各位立院的同仁今天很高興地方民意代表之籍及村里長的事務補助費的補助條例能夠三讀通過至2000年以來勞工的基本工資已經調漲了73%消費者物價指數也超過30%但是議員助理的經費卻24年來從沒有調整議員助理的工作繁雜業務繁重他們是地方政府與民眾的橋樑待遇及待提升"},{"start":31462.214,"end":31477.451,"text":"而地方民意代表的這個補助條例的5月8號在我們內政委員會審查的時候歷經了10個小時完成初審由院會進行三讀今天院會終於完成三讀的程序將直轄市議員的助理補助費從2、4萬調高到32萬"},{"start":31480.113,"end":31497.541,"text":"現事議員的助理補助費從8萬調高到16萬讓他們的修法之後可以提升議員助理的待遇讓他們有更好的服務品質而村里長是最基層的民選行政首長也是大家口中非常重要的土地公在實質上他要辦理的村里的"},{"start":31501.806,"end":31531.506,"text":"各項的工作業務及交辦事項承攬了許多基層服務的項目尤其在疫情期間各項的應辦事項繁瑣且繁雜不僅要主動服務民眾還要配合政府的政令宣導還需要整合資源爭取公部門的各項補助以維護村里的生活品質提高對村里民的服務村里長的辛勞、里民都有目共睹而村里長的事務補助費無法反映里長現實生活所需"},{"start":31532.186,"end":31553.98,"text":"讓全年無休服務基層的村里長更顯得艱辛每逢民俗節日更常要犧牲自己本身的一個過節的時光為村里中的弱勢付出今天三股通過至明年開始會由政府發放春節慰勞金一個半月7.5萬元以慰勞他們一年的辛勞感謝大家"},{"start":31557.61,"end":31577.582,"text":"謝謝徐宇貞委員的發言接下來請登記第13號王洪威委員發言王洪威委員發言王洪威委員發言不在場請登記第14號羅志強委員發言羅志強委員發言羅志強委員發言不在場登記第15號劉許廷委員發言"},{"start":31593.168,"end":31617.916,"text":"謝謝主席各位同仁真正走過基層的人就會知道衛民服務並不容易也知道民意代表的服務品質來自團隊而非個人本席是基層出身非常清楚地方民意代表衛民服務的辛勞也更清楚縣市議員和直轄市議員問政服務同工卻不同酬的長期問題"},{"start":31619.366,"end":31643.148,"text":"民意代表的助理不應該變成血汗勞工很高興今天法案能夠三讀通過我們增加了助理費的補助並且大幅拉近縣市與直轄市的差距更新增了以日計薪的機制增加了用人的彈性讓本來常常以義務性質的行程助理也能夠有基本的勞動待遇"},{"start":31644.246,"end":31659.892,"text":"對於在第一線為民服務的村里長很多里長都是全職投入、全心投入除了春節慰勞金的法制化之外我在委員會審查時也堅持9任慰勞金的制度"},{"start":31660.652,"end":31668.161,"text":"也在此,我們鄭重呼籲內政部要重憂鼓勵讓任滿六屆、年滿65歲以上的資深里長能夠得到有感的支持和回饋"},{"start":31679.395,"end":31704.441,"text":"在最後我要感謝內政委員會所有同仁、不分黨派大家一同支持地方民貸費用知己及村里長事務補助條例的通過我們都共同期待第一線的基層服務人員有更好的保障、陸力重工大家一起改善地方政治提供人民更好的服務品質謝謝大家"},{"start":31706.869,"end":31721.438,"text":"謝謝劉許廷委員的發言接下來我們請登記第16號張志倫委員張志倫委員張志倫委員不在場我們接下來請登記第17號高金素美委員發言高金素美委員發言"},{"start":31738.069,"end":31753.62,"text":"地方民意代表費用增加還有村里長事務補助費的補助條例今天三讀通過了五月二號當天我們內政委員會的立法委員們從早上九點開會一直到晚上的七點二十二分奮戰了十個小時"},{"start":31754.941,"end":31774.101,"text":"為了就是要讓這個修正案能夠儘速通過讓地方的民意代表還有村里長能夠取得應該要有的權益身為原住民立法委員的我為了要幫服務範圍非常遼闊的原民議員還有村里長討一個公道我更是呆滿了全場全時"},{"start":31775.362,"end":31795.478,"text":"大家都知道原住民的選區服務非常的遼闊這導致我們的交通成本是比一般的民意代表還要高因此我為全國59位的原住民的議員提出了衛民服務費要外加20%的修正動議然後每月幾乎增加最多8000塊補貼他們的交通費用"},{"start":31798.14,"end":31814.921,"text":"我也為全國542位地區的村里長發聲協調他們的費用6萬塊的事務補助費並且要隨同公務員通案各身費用並且每年的春節原住民的村里長加發9萬塊的事務補助費"},{"start":31817.444,"end":31834.892,"text":"更重要的是增加的5.89億費用是由中央買單地方縣政府不會造成你們的財政負擔為了原住民的意願還有我們各地方的村里長、高金樹梅終於爭取到合理的待遇了"},{"start":31835.692,"end":31860.549,"text":"到現在為止我還沒有用餐大家都辛苦了今天有兩個原住民的法案非常重要一個是禁法補償土地正義一個是原住民族的議員還有村里長我們不管是事務費不管是交通費或者是助理的費用我們都增加20%再一次謝謝我們這個內政委員會的立法委員辛苦了謝謝"},{"start":31862.987,"end":31879.726,"text":"謝謝高金素美委員的發言接下來請登記第18號李坤成委員發言李坤成委員發言李坤成委員發言不在場接下來請登記第19號陳俊宇委員發言"},{"start":31916.803,"end":31934.853,"text":"主席、各位同仁、大家好。很高興今天可以參與到我們地方民意代表輝雍及我們全里長事務部部長會相關條例修正正式三託通過。本席的選區宜蘭館有233位里長,因有人在偏院的所在中山路海被獲得鄉親。"},{"start":31943.078,"end":31950.426,"text":"也有人在人口密集的地方,一個人必須要為所請為醫生的民眾來服務每一位傳理長都努心努力,在滿足我們每一位民眾的訴求過去第1屆的期間"},{"start":31959.168,"end":31977.354,"text":"他們總是站在第一線打起風雨的擋塌。疫情過去,他們委員扮演到每一位鄉親最好的處兵,隨時對委員服務非常辛苦。所以在這次事發後,政府將會加發到存在的慰勞金"},{"start":31977.802,"end":31989.428,"text":"最主要是要貼貼到他們在基站為民服務的薪酪。本席也邱卿在宜蘭擬任過3屆九年外的議員請求了解基站為民服務的薪酪。基本薪酪經歷更加的調整27,470個每屆委員的助理費8萬個已經沒法度"},{"start":32002.734,"end":32012.217,"text":"請到三位的助理。現時的選民服務環境也不能單單靠兩位助理來擬金。人事補助費用實際已經不符合需求,而且服務的平台更加多元。請說一下,我們終於可以在24年後的今天"},{"start":32023.942,"end":32044.417,"text":"在此處來叼管議員助力的補助相關的費用,相信若能夠保障到地方民態助力的羅廷寬約,對於提升議員的問政、品質、擴大為民服務的功能,都會有很大的幫助。感謝我們叼議共同的支持及共識,讓我們繼續為民眾來拍拚。感謝大家,謝謝。"},{"start":32052.655,"end":32057.001,"text":"謝謝陳俊宇委員的發言接下來請登記第20號武力華委員發言"},{"start":32079.056,"end":32091.766,"text":"大家好稍早我們已經三讀通過地方民代及村里長的補助修正條例我在這裡要特別表達對內政部以及行政院的感謝"},{"start":32093.62,"end":32114.948,"text":"這個條例從2000年制定以來我們再度看到行政部門主動提出大幅的調升這一次不僅修正議員助理的聘任制度及相關費用更主動的考量到援助民族服務的範圍、交通等特殊性而增加補助"},{"start":32115.828,"end":32135.066,"text":"我身為一個原住民立委我感到非常的欣慰這四年多來我也不斷的反應、不斷的質詢要考量原住民族地區的服務成本針對原住民基層的村里長到地方民代都應該要有額外的加擠"},{"start":32136.007,"end":32157.954,"text":"因此原住民議員的衛民服務費除了每個月的基數提升也可再外加20%的費用而村里長的事務補助費我在上一屆也已經提案修法調升到每個月5萬這一次修法之後原住民的村里長每個月可另外再加碼20%"},{"start":32160.255,"end":32187.478,"text":"讓基層民代能夠有更充裕的資源為民服務為全民的福祉來提升是我們大家的期待這一次我原本也想要來讓我們的鄉代表能夠增加助理費用很可惜這一次沒有辦法通過但是我始終認為對我們地方來講我們的鄉民代表如果能夠有助理"},{"start":32188.098,"end":32198.846,"text":"必定能夠大大的讓我們的地方創生有更好的一個發展沒關係我們再接再厲在此謝謝各黨團謝謝所有委員的支持我們繼續努力謝謝吳麗華委員的發言接下來請登記21號鍾嘉斌委員發言鍾嘉斌委員發言"},{"start":32213.567,"end":32219.633,"text":"鍾嘉斌委員發言不在場接下來請登記22號黃婕委員發言黃婕委員發言黃婕委員發言不在場接下來請登記23號徐欣穎委員發言"},{"start":32251.813,"end":32269.702,"text":"謝謝院長大家好地方自治是憲政體制的重要環節之一所以我們能夠有健全的地方自治我們才能夠有健全的國家的整體的發展人民的權益才會得到最周全的保障"},{"start":32271.468,"end":32293.726,"text":"村里長可以說是我們地方自治裡面最基層的第一線他們長期的辛勞、工作危險而且貢獻良多所以本次修法我們予以通過希望能夠給他們一個半月的年終慰問金"},{"start":32295.453,"end":32313.45,"text":"並且對於認滿六屆而且年滿65歲以上者給予慰勞金以及表揚我們對於地方民意代表、鄉鎮市民代表以及非直轄市的縣議員"},{"start":32316.124,"end":32334.55,"text":"我們也看到過去立法因為背景以及一些考量所以他們長期的不平等待遇本期也提案予以修正讓他們能夠納入主管家級"},{"start":32335.862,"end":32336.042,"text":"主席主席主席"},{"start":32353.078,"end":32377.826,"text":"更加的專業以及選民服務可以更加的落實本次修法唯一美中不足的是本席曾提附帶決議希望可以不要中央請客地方買單所以本席在此要呼籲請行政院要能夠體察地方財政的困窘給予充分的支持謝謝謝謝徐新儀委員的發言接下來請登記24號陳廷飛委員發言"},{"start":32382.95,"end":32389.519,"text":"陳廷飛委員發言陳廷飛委員不在場接下來請登記25號陳瑩委員發言"},{"start":32414.406,"end":32438.446,"text":"主席、各位同仁地方民意代表的待遇已經超過20年未調整非常高興在這次委員會的討論結果我們提高直轄市與縣市議員的助理補助費、衛民服務費增加縣市議員及鄉鎮市區代表的主管職務加給同時我們也增加了村里長的春節慰勞金"},{"start":32439.767,"end":32459.838,"text":"因為原住民議員的服務範圍幅員遼闊我與行政院也都提出了提高原住民議員的衛民服務費感謝大家的支持在原鄉的村里長除服務項目多樣化外由於很多地區住戶分佈不集中翻山越嶺是家常便飯"},{"start":32460.939,"end":32481.518,"text":"每逢風災、地震發生時還要挨家挨戶的去巡視協助實在是相當的辛苦所以在這一次的修法過程我也主張應該提高原鄉村里長的待遇最後討論的結果原住民族地區的村里長事務補助費將可以增加到20%"},{"start":32483.28,"end":32506.586,"text":"在這次的修法當中草野共有37個版本在委員會討論針對原住民民意代表還有原鄉村里長的權益我率先提出增加待遇的修法希望可以為原住民的民意代表加油一起為原鄉的村里長加油謝謝謝謝陳穎委員的發言接下來我們請登記第26號廖偉祥委員發言"},{"start":32528.667,"end":32546.756,"text":"謝謝院長還有所有的同仁今天大家共同努力通過這個地方民貸費用知己及村里長事務補助費補助條例的修法程序三讀通過讓里長以及議員公費助理的補助費能夠增加"},{"start":32547.489,"end":32576.193,"text":"那大家都知道這幾年來物價基本工資都一直在增加但是議員公費助理跟村里長的補助費至今已經超過23年沒有調整那本次修法希望透過增加議員公費助理以及里長的這個補助費並且增訂議會建立內部控制的制度讓民意代表可以更妥善利用資源聘請人力做出更優質的服務吸引人才加入留出更好的人才來服務我們的民眾"},{"start":32576.926,"end":32601.537,"text":"增進大眾的福祉、創造正向的循環。另外,村里長在第一線執行各級政府交辦的業務以及人民的請託,職責多元而且包羅萬象,常常是不分週夜晚上很晚的時候還要接電話,凌晨也要接電話,全年無休逢年過節也沒有休息的時間,任務也很繁重,但是事務費卻相對低廉,"},{"start":32602.857,"end":32628.219,"text":"我想我們國家實在是虧欠第一線的民意代表跟村里長太多尤其在疫情期間村里長更是擔任第一線的防疫人員讓整體社會能夠安然的挺過這樣的疫情那今天我們透過法制化來確保村里長有1.5個月也就是7.5萬的年終的春節慰問金以及任久的這個久任金"},{"start":32628.871,"end":32657.577,"text":"我想這也是國家應該給予的待遇也是持來的正義在這裡我要跟全國廣大的議員公費助理以及這個永遠在第一線認真付出的里長們說一生辛苦了讓我們繼續同心協力共同的努力通過政治來提升人民的生活水準創造眾人臉上的笑容謝謝謝謝廖偉強委員的發言接下來請登記27號黃建斌委員發言"},{"start":32678.959,"end":32702.48,"text":"主席、各位委員及在場所有的媒體朋友感謝草野共同支持我們才可以在今天通過這項法案對於地方的村里長及民意代表及助理是遲來爭議也是對我們基站民意代表的困難本席、台主基站、台領會傳感書、鄉民代表以及鄉鎮長村里長"},{"start":32705.427,"end":32728.773,"text":"是地方第一線的守護者他們戰戰兢兢、進兢業業、站在第一線的工作清水溝、修樹木、消毒、地方安全損守以及鎮定宣導都可以看見他們的隱私、慷慨、疊疊地地就是因為有這些村里長守護在第一線,所以才換來地方的安全這次的修法讓地方里長的福費增加,就是對他們最好的回應"},{"start":32730.305,"end":32752.99,"text":"非原住民地區的村里長增加10%、原住民地區村里長增加20%同時村里長也比照軍公教人員年終工作獎金發給規定編列預算於春節期間另外發給事務補助費非原住民地區7.5萬、原住民地區9萬讓村里長有更多的資源來退地方服務另外為了提升縣議員的問政品質"},{"start":32753.837,"end":32782.423,"text":"二十四年來從未調整過的地方民意代表、公費助理也一併調升先緣從每人每月不得超過8萬元提升至16萬元補助增加、借金也更大阿民在這要期待未來,我們所有的傳統團隊跟我們的民意代表我們來做會拍拚,讓我們地方變得更好台東加油!台灣加油!謝謝謝謝黃建斌委員的發言接下來請登記第28號,傅坤祺委員發言"},{"start":32784.423,"end":32807.198,"text":"傅坤祺委員發言傅坤祺委員發言不在場報院會登記發言委員均已發言完畢我們現在進入討論事項第五案本院委員翁曉琳等提案將郭國文委員移送紀律委員會議案請議事人員宣讀提案內容"},{"start":32808.069,"end":32824.343,"text":"本院委員翁曉琳等35人有鑒於郭國文委員搶奪周萬來秘書長議事本等物品並拉扯其衣物、眼鏡、銜鞋將之推倒在地致秘書長受傷驚恐此舉不僅違反立法、委員行為法第7條、第1項、第5款"},{"start":32826.064,"end":32854.167,"text":"立法委員應秉持理性問政共同維護一場秩序不但有暴力之肢體動作之規定更有違反《刑法》第135條防礙公務罪、第304條強制罪等罪之餘也應予以嚴正譴責原提案將郭國文委員移送紀律委員會處以最嚴厲處罰以維護本院醫事紀律與人員安全是否有當請公決案宣讀完畢"},{"start":32855.97,"end":32874.586,"text":"報告委員會依照立法院職權新司法第8條第3項之規定不按經提案人說明提案子去大體討論後即一決交付審查或禁付二讀或不予審議我們現在請提案人翁曉琳委員說明提案子去時間5分鐘"},{"start":32883.496,"end":32885.73,"text":"院長好 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