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向各位黨團幹部報告我們內政委會召集委員高金素美委員於七月二日跟九日已經先行召集兩次協商會議協商的結果除保留法案名稱第二條至第五條條文外其餘條文均已有共識"},{"start":1432.898,"end":1459.36,"text":"因為本法有新制定的法案本案的法案名稱的定性牽扯到後續保留條文的法條內容這句話非常重要我再念一遍本法的名稱性的定下來之後會牽動到後續保留條文的法案內容這點要請各位黨團幹部特別注意另外高金委員召集了兩次黨團協商為顧及到立法體系的完整性集中討論的焦點"},{"start":1460.461,"end":1466.128,"text":"均確立以行政院提案條文為本法案協商之討論基礎"},{"start":1467.717,"end":1490.352,"text":"最後,全案採用協商條文之立法體例,並提報院會進行二、三讀程序,為節省各位黨團代表的寶貴時間。主席在這裡具體建議,我們採用上述的協商模式,討論上述保留的名稱及條文。如果大家後續對已經有的共識有意見,我們再回過頭來,再繼續討論。請問各位委員代表有無異議?"},{"start":1494.315,"end":1499.988,"text":"沒有異議,好,我們就此照上述宣告通過,我們先請高津召委請說明,謝謝"},{"start":1501.803,"end":1524.382,"text":"好,非常謝謝我們辛苦了院長也非常謝謝今天的黨團三長都在還有很辛苦的在委員會裡面討論的委員們都在包括我們的部長我就大概再跟大家提案說明一下剛剛雖然院長已經做了一些的說明我再補充說明新住民基本法的立法其實有兩個一個叫做新住民基本法權益根"},{"start":1525.403,"end":1552.241,"text":"《基本法》或是《新住民的權益法》這兩個名稱的問題然後我來說明一下其實從第九屆林立產委員的時候106年10月他就已經先提出了《新住民基本法草案》然後在第十屆任期的時候羅美林委員也提出了那當時他也是內政的召委那麼對於這個法案一直沒有辦法做實質性的討論原因是行政院沒有版本出來"},{"start":1552.941,"end":1564.224,"text":"但是他們分別也都有開過公聽會然後本席擔任召委之後在內政委員會我們分別非常辛苦的內政委員會的委員們4月29號跟6月12號我們開始我們法案的審查在這個過程裏面民眾黨的麥一貞委員跟國民黨張志倫的委員他們也在6月11號的時候召開新住民基本法的公聽會並且來聆聽各界的意見"},{"start":1580.269,"end":1600.804,"text":"所以我們在六月十二號的審查過程之中 非常順利的完成了那麼完善了立法程序 特別我也等待了行政院的版本那非常謝謝我們的部長 也提出了內政部的版本 然後讓行政院通過所以我在七月二號跟七月九號 再一次的召開協商"},{"start":1602.165,"end":1620.647,"text":"那麼把新住民基本法的協商完略那剛剛陳儒院長所講的我們總共有十九條那麼十九條裡面最重要的就是名稱的法案到底要做新住民基本法或者是新住民權益保障法就待會大家再討論第二個就是新住民的定義"},{"start":1621.548,"end":1643.146,"text":"第三個就是新住民的主管機關．第四個是新住民的專責機關．第五個是行政院有關新住民的協調匯報的設置我想待會大家可以就這個部分來討論那麼我先講一下基本法其實它最重要的是原則性、精神性、政策性方向的規範同時呢基本法"},{"start":1643.866,"end":1672.191,"text":"如果它確定了之後 它的施政方向然後再依據所謂的基本法的精神繼續訂定各種執法然後是具有統合各機關目標跟手段的用法我在這邊提供給大家做一個參考比如說環境基本法 比如說道路交通安全基本法比如說通訊傳播基本法 教育基本法 海洋基本法科學技術基本法 社會福利基本法 文化基本法"},{"start":1672.611,"end":1692.577,"text":"以及原住民族基本法還有客家基本法其實以上我談的這個部分都是在我們的政府機關有立的基本法然後其中呢92年制定公佈的通訊傳播基本法裡面也說了要設置通訊傳播委員會其實呢跟"},{"start":1693.117,"end":1697.179,"text":"目前不管是民眾黨團、國民黨團或者是民進黨有些委員的提案都相同所以在裡面其實也有規範設置專責機關那第二個我要講的是新住民的範圍了"},{"start":1708.826,"end":1734.785,"text":"新住民的範圍當然也是大家待會要討論的部分那麼要處理社會我們新住民其實就是要落實憲法保障多元文化的精神要保障新住民的基本權益然後更要協助他們融入我國的社會建立共存共榮的族群關係所以特別要訂立基本法因此立法的目的很明顯就是要保障新住民"},{"start":1735.405,"end":1756.4,"text":"了解、熟悉我國的社會﹐然後要處理社會事宜的問題﹐我們既然要處理社會事宜的問題﹐所以我們就難以用所謂取得我國身份證作為判斷的基準﹐因此限制取得我國身份證﹐拿到三年之內才是新住民﹐顯然是非常不合理的﹐再來我們以外配來說﹐"},{"start":1757.421,"end":1772.407,"text":"最快四年取得我國國籍再加上他取得身份證三年等於他七年的時間是親族名然而如果不拿我國身份證他只拿永久居留證"},{"start":1773.487,"end":1799.368,"text":"永遠就是新住民所以以這樣的邏輯來看是顯然非常不合理的再來我要講的是專責機關除了行政院版本之外不管是民進黨、國民黨或民眾黨委員的版本其實都有談到要成立二級的新住民專責機關那麼再來按照目前移民署的編制我們看一下現在新住民的人口大概是一百二十萬含二代了"},{"start":1800.089,"end":1825.187,"text":"那在我們的移民署的編制裡面只有一個移民輔導科只有六個人在處理新住民的業務也就是說平均一個人他們要服務二十萬個人人力真的是非常的不足我相信也是各黨團委員版本要求成立新住民專者機關的主要原因那麼如果我們按照目前的編制"},{"start":1826.448,"end":1842.702,"text":"原本就捉襟見肘的人力我相信未來更難以符合未來工作我覺得這個部分行政院應該要來說明清楚以上是昭緯做的補充說明 謝謝謝謝高津素美委員昭緯做的說明接下來我們請內政部劉部長請說一個說明好嗎 謝謝好 謝謝院長柯總召請準備"},{"start":1847.802,"end":1850.903,"text":"謝謝院長、謝謝各位黨團的幹部、謝謝各位委員謝謝高金、昭偉在過去好幾次的協商當中把我們不管是各個委員的版本或者是各個黨團的版本還有包括行政院通過的版本說明得非常清楚那我就幾條有法案保留的部分先跟大家做一個基本的報告"},{"start":1870.291,"end":1894.289,"text":"行政院所提的部分是新住民權益保障法那跟原來很多委員或是很多黨團所提的新住民的基本法確實有在法律適用上的一個不同那剛剛高金委員已經跟大家報告等一下我們在討論的時候我們會再提出我們的看法那在行政院所提的這個權益保障法裡面如果是按照新住民的這個權益保障法這樣子的法案的提摘規格的話"},{"start":1895.37,"end":1922.937,"text":"那在我們原來的這個設置裡面就是未來的這個新住民權益保障法的主管機關就是內政部那內政部會把這個原來在移民署下面的一個只有幾個人的移民輔導或是相關的業務提高變成是私的或者是一個中心這樣的規格那如果是放在原來的所謂的新住民基本法的時候按照它原來的設置規範恐怕就是變成另外一個叫做新住民委員會"},{"start":1923.777,"end":1948.377,"text":"那它必須有執法才能夠定定出來是哪一些部會來主導有關新住民的相關事項第一個很簡單跟大家回覆那再來有關第二條也就是說我們在所有的委員的版本裡面大家討論會比較多的我也跟大家做一個很簡單的報告第一個剛剛我們高金昭偉所提的完全正確就是說用現在的新住民一般來看待的話新住民的"},{"start":1949.498,"end":1967.57,"text":"人數在臺灣大約是一百二十八萬人左右其中大約有九成是女性子女不算的話大概是八十萬到九十萬左右其中大約九成是女性九成當中大約是六成是中國"},{"start":1969.731,"end":1990.122,"text":"到臺灣來的婚姻移民在第二條的第一項第一款裡面我們有規範要服務的對象的範圍婚姻移民大約是六十萬那第二款裡面的外國專業人士包括中階技術人力的話大約是十六萬那有關港澳或者是大陸地區的部分的話大約是四點三萬"},{"start":1991.483,"end":2014.623,"text":"這個並不包括我所說的在第一項第一款裡面的婚姻移民還有規劃取得國籍者我們在新住民的權益保障法裡面也特別把子女也包含在內目前在臺灣的子女大約是48萬左右再來就是剛剛跟各位提到的部分就是說如果我們用新住民基本法的時候有一些體力在試用上面"},{"start":2016.604,"end":2034.852,"text":"會有一些困擾的部分就是說第一個我們不知道未來的新住民基本法那在這個行政機關裡面的主要的主責單位是哪一個目的事業主管機關還沒有定定的很清楚只有定定說是一個委員會或者是一個專責機關那這個呢在定義事項不明的話未來在處理有關新住民的相關權益事項或是其他的這個任務編組的時候會出現一些漢格的情形以上簡單報告謝謝院長"},{"start":2045.838,"end":2048.831,"text":"謝謝劉部長的說明接下來請柯建民總召請發言"},{"start":2050.786,"end":2074.021,"text":"主席各位委員同仁,剛才高英市委所談的行政的版本,事實上在六月十號我來過去還有跟你還有黃國昌委員大家一直在協商因為你在五月底的時候,在審這個法案,五月初要審這個法案的時候等行政院整個院長換人以後,新的聯合團隊要審法案以後我們再來審"},{"start":2078.739,"end":2098.517,"text":"你本來就有這個決議,結果六月十號高清社會委員當召委,因為你是應要審查我還過去還有副本席總召委來,黃國昌也來了那講了半天,就是黃國昌不答應嘛,應要審,那你就配合所以你把委員會,你當委員會召委,對委員做所有決議,你應該以遵行"},{"start":2099.755,"end":2126.256,"text":"那你不遵行,你們委員才做決議說等新的部長來、新的法案送進來才審那6月10號你要印審嘛所以整個就推出委會所以你剛才,等一下我講完再講我剛才仔細聽你的話,我講話不會拗人的這都是公開記錄的所以這個是在做真正操作嘛"},{"start":2127.881,"end":2134.159,"text":"根本你要把行政版本丟包嘛那你知道行政版本根本對法案名稱大家有不同意見啊"},{"start":2136.298,"end":2163.264,"text":"那你也知道行政院要用潛意保障法吧所以你硬搶著要把他押出去嘛那天還持續問題我講了半天 黃國昌還上來發言結果你召委竟然是如此的做法所以包括你上次選辦法也是這樣的搞法我是覺得召委你那個召委不是以你的意志為意志那選法法那天也是把人都關起來所以我今天要講的就是說今天"},{"start":2164.304,"end":2190.978,"text":"當然我們面對這種窘境的時候,人家說行政版本沒有版本,行政版本後來才附會進來的好,那現在我們要談的一個事情就是說,這裡面也有很尊重的問題院長我覺得這裡面也有修正案也要並然來討論,因為民進黨這種修正案一看就知道,這有鬼嘛所以一定要,這修正案第一條而已,所以面對我們既然保了哪一條,哪一條全部拿出來看,我們在當會時間再講第二輪,讓我們當會時間"},{"start":2194.861,"end":2216.798,"text":"我今天才看到民進黨提一個新聞基本法的第一條修正案和第二條修正案很清楚 這個馬上我們會碰到還有第九條吧所以要並在一起來討論 這個我覺得要堅持那今天我們要談的就是第一個問題到底法案名稱要用什麼法案名稱是用基本法還是權益保障法"},{"start":2218.099,"end":2222.482,"text":"這是總統關鍵還有主管機關你要二級獨立機關這有可能嗎這不是關鍵事情我們要談的就是說"},{"start":2232.931,"end":2248.792,"text":"坦白講新住民我們剛才講有一百二十萬那新住民有很多種國家在裡面很大宗的是陸配很大宗陸配所以今天我們要講一個很重要的問題就是說像美國這樣一個種族"},{"start":2251.553,"end":2269.081,"text":"有大農的國家,他只有對他們自己,像我們有原住民原住民是我們本來的,所以在憲法上有原住民文化及語言的保障、發展是這樣的態度,我們憲法保障是本國國民"},{"start":2270.734,"end":2297.665,"text":"那美國這樣大一個世界各種種族都大同的國家但是全世界都只有一種就是對於自己的native的像印第安他有印 美國有印第安的事務局話屬於尼仁布他沒有成立在一個委員會我們要知道你這樣的話我們再去成立有新住民的成立一個委員會這是代表分裂的國家"},{"start":2298.919,"end":2327.374,"text":"那這個委員會主委是不是降到陸培最多數是陸培所以我們要在此也先弄清楚這個基本法的基本法架構你如果基本法架構不是這樣寫你這裡面有作案法所以我們主張是新住民權益保障法這主要是保障新住民權益嘛還有什麼但是我看他們法案的提法因為你用憲法憲法是保障本國國民"},{"start":2328.983,"end":2354.494,"text":"《憲法真正條例》第十一條也是兩岸人民關係條例 它有差別待遇的兩岸人民關係條例也寫成香港隊的兩岸 雖然有兩岸那兩岸是不是屬於常常常常講 大家都知道不同國家所以要特別用法律的定義有差別待遇你把現在 我們將來把新住民都搞到基本法然後要成立一個二級獨立機關這代表什麼 要一個分裂國家 更加嚴重"},{"start":2356.155,"end":2375.669,"text":"所以我主張對於對於民眾黨 等一下不要謝謝好不好 我把這次講完啦等下什麼時候 高雄市長講很久了 朝野鄉可以限制時間了等下我很希望聽到你好好講好不好 我想聽到你的觀點 因為我尊重你的意見民眾黨第一條"},{"start":2379.44,"end":2386.707,"text":"和今天第一條的寫法完全不一樣為了落實憲法保障多元、文化、精神"},{"start":2388.905,"end":2397.452,"text":"保障新住民各項基本人權,因不受歧視、排擠、剝奪及限制,並協助其融合社會。第二項"},{"start":2412.725,"end":2442.061,"text":"政府對於不同國籍或第七之新住民行政措施應一律平等這是什麼意思政府對於不同國籍這個就是我們海外哪中央有沒有深圳的海外僑胞有哪深圳有沒有深圳的這些人數超過我們現在兩千三百萬那超過我們現在國內只能三百萬你要然後呢或第七或第這個人也第七就是大陸吧"},{"start":2443.516,"end":2468.682,"text":"之新住民行政措施應一平等這是什麼意思就是長安民間條例入配六年要改四年在這裡偷渡因為國民黨的秋年金版本寫得很清楚第三條寫得很清楚就是用這個條文可以把入配改六年變四年"},{"start":2469.602,"end":2491.954,"text":"所以他這樣用行政措施一律平等就是要偷渡假新住民假新住民實在是要偷渡六倍事件這很清楚嘛這一個是大問題這個地方我覺得我是沒有辦法妥協的我覺得沒有辦法妥協好不好所以第一個"},{"start":2493.345,"end":2516.441,"text":"民生八月第一條文,這是民眾黨的嘛那天黃國昌出於棍牌,就問我鴨子要出委員會、要審查我這個意思很對,那高中生女的委員你不尊重委員會的決議,應該配合吧這個有高度的政治意涵的東西,這個是有高度意涵的"},{"start":2518.206,"end":2544.276,"text":"我不是故意來講這個誰跟兩岸的關係比較好大家都很清楚黃國昌既然會搞這個也搞出來了好 謝謝柯建民總長我會 不要讓我決定好不好接下來我們請高金委員發言 請黃珊文準備好 謝謝一個我要講的是我不接受柯總召用情緒式的語言來指控召委我再特別來說明一下也跟大家報告"},{"start":2545.796,"end":2568.288,"text":"所有的內政委員會都在好不好大家我來把時間續談一下在四月二十九號六月十二號召開法案的審查當時各委員的版本都在然後呢大家為了討論也實質的討論沒有任何結論所以因此我在當下也沒有新政院版本"},{"start":2569.088,"end":2585.246,"text":"所以當下我決議我們等待行政院版本我們再開始召開討論因此我們也等待了內政部送到行政院的版本出來了之後我特別在"},{"start":2586.026,"end":2612.192,"text":"七月二號跟七月九號所以柯總召您誤會了你剛剛的指控我不接受我們是在尊重大家的狀況也特別等待行政院版本進入到內政委員會又再開了兩次的協商所以不是您剛剛說的我沒有尊重大家希望柯總召知道我知道你很忙我也原諒你"},{"start":2615.814,"end":2629.188,"text":"接著下來我要談的是今天有被保留的部分我就不要再花時間了被保留的部分是大家可以討論的有十九條大家認為不需要討論的"},{"start":2630.429,"end":2655.776,"text":"協商版本也都在大家的桌上因此只有幾條那麼當時我們在說如果名稱沒有辦法大家一樣的話在委員會縱使再多的討論都沒有辦法通過這個需要我們這個政府政策性的宣示跟決定所以才會最後到院長"},{"start":2657.336,"end":2682.266,"text":"三長來討論保留的法條所以並不是如剛剛柯總長所講的朝委沒有按照行政程序或者是沒有尊重行政院版本我要特別的說明希望我們等一下討論法案的時候不要再用情緒性的語言我們同樣的希望"},{"start":2683.306,"end":2686.848,"text":"立法院能夠保持高度的文明以上謝謝"},{"start":2716.65,"end":2719.413,"text":"請問一下今天協商有沒有行政院版"},{"start":2726.43,"end":2750.396,"text":"請問一下你胡說八道7月2號、4號我們的協商就是用行政院的版本在討論7月2號、7月9號按照行政院的版本在討論因此才會今天有協商柯總召您年紀大了是不是還是您忙多了很抱歉喔"},{"start":2752.741,"end":2769.694,"text":"我們下面還有其他內政委員會的會發言,自然會澄清很多有一些不清楚的地方我應該從華人名稱才開始談,先講清楚好不好我們先討論名稱問題那個建議你講好好聲明一下,我們聽一下"},{"start":2771.277,"end":2796.008,"text":"我們現在剛才請內政部部長報告也是關於第一條條文看內政部的立場再來請召集委員說明完現在要內政委員會像現在是麥玉珍委員發言完張宏祿委員要準備你先聽完好不好請他說明他們現在提出來修正案的版本是什麼你不是讓他嗎黃珊瑋你不是說讓麥玉珍委員嗎麥玉珍委員請你抓緊時間好嗎請直接講重點謝謝"},{"start":2801.069,"end":2826.245,"text":"好 院長 三位總召我們今天要跟第一個條款要說明的是剛才我們的初小會委員也有說我們是第一條是照你的通過但是呢 因為我們很多的民團的反應說我們整個條款裡面都沒有放反歧視的條款"},{"start":2827.325,"end":2847.185,"text":"所以我們才提出修正但是我們沒有堅持但是這個部分也要跟你說明說因為民團說我們沒有把這一條放進來所以我們要放進來是說希望說大家同意討論看有沒有這樣子的需要但是第一條的就是那個精神"},{"start":2849.693,"end":2856.217,"text":"對,所以就是這一塊跟你說明所以也要跟大家說明說我為什麼我們的黨團還有我進來立法院第一個是優先法案因為從92年我們移民署就成立了成立到現在大家算一下移民署已經做了多久所以說我們外國人入境"},{"start":2876.309,"end":2876.95,"text":"三、研 三、研 三、研"},{"start":2900.761,"end":2919.136,"text":"為政．缺雜就是發展的機會．因此我們希望說整合政府資源．廣納各界的人才．讓各個部會依據這樣子的基本法的方向．目標來去分工合作．所以"},{"start":2920.918,"end":2938.415,"text":"實現就是合法、合理還有平等、平權、消除歧視、辨明等的目標來設立這個基本法的精神所以我們有認同就是我們的蘇曉慧她提的第一個精神但是因為我們等一下再一起討論第二個"},{"start":2941.243,"end":2960.295,"text":"因為外國人來自各界各地﹐所以寄駐臺灣﹐所以我們希望他們在臺灣安定樂業﹐永久駐臺灣﹐所以我們希望說要定居臺灣﹐融入臺灣﹐所以我們要定這樣子的一個定義﹐希望說我們從認識到"},{"start":2963.217,"end":2981.222,"text":"二、研二、研三、研四、研五、研六、研七、研八、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五、研十五"},{"start":2983.163,"end":2989.266,"text":"以結婚為最大的目標其他說他要即將成為我們台灣人了我們才要納入成為新住民所以我們希望不要去定說三年還有說他兼具我國國籍也不要再納入再這樣子的條文所以第三我們希望說有一個專門的窗口因為栽培人才給予機會"},{"start":3013.018,"end":3027.722,"text":"才有學要習嘛所以我們要希望有一個單位讓新住民在這邊去發揮所以我們希望的我們現在就是要跟你說明我要立法的目的要讓你了解所以我們要"},{"start":3033.243,"end":3053.113,"text":"尊重啊 你講話說 你要好好聽我講完講完 這樣立法的精神 有頭有尾我們希望你要去認同 不是說你來這邊你就打破大家的討論因為我們要去審查法案的時候 我們是因為要等"},{"start":3054.353,"end":3077.631,"text":"行政院版我們也願意等不能說上車了要來翻車吧不是這樣的意思我們希望大家好好去討論不是你來了就直接攻擊我們的召委又說我們怎麼樣怎麼樣你要尊重所有的委員花了多少時間從竹條就省兩次協商又兩次今天第三次"},{"start":3078.311,"end":3101.32,"text":"我們很願意大家共同來去討論我們想要求有再求好大家來討論希望給新住民一個機會不要只把新住民當選舉工具還有預算的工具希望大家好好來去為台灣服務我們來台灣已經很久了希望大家有機會要來台灣貢獻來設一個專門你栽培人才就要給大家去"},{"start":3107.842,"end":3132.774,"text":"服務是這樣子的目標所以我覺得為什麼我生氣覺得說你進來你就這樣子噼噼啪啪的就是沒有頭沒尾去罵我們我覺得對我們很不尊重我邏輯很清楚沒有我現在問你第一條你第一條第二項你說明一下你怎麼不說明呢第一條第二項第二項啊你第二條提案了那黃山說明好了"},{"start":3136.265,"end":3161.91,"text":"主席再出言一下好不好我這個主席好像張宏祿委是本來下面要發言的那我們讓黃三威先發言請張宏祿委再等一下好不好我補充麥玉珍好了因為各位委員因為我這個在委員會其實通過了蘇巧惠委員的版本那當然就是剛剛麥玉珍委員已經說了就是其實很多民團過來澄清說他們希望能夠納入剛剛也講了這是我們提出來這邊討論"},{"start":3163.73,"end":3183.637,"text":"我剛剛麥玉珍也說了他們沒有堅持但是提出來討論不是不能討論所以希望這是第一個民團要求納入這個反歧視我們希望我們入法這是我們代表民意的反應第二個這個規定第二個部分叫做政府對不同國及地區的新住民行政措施一律平等"},{"start":3184.177,"end":3205.449,"text":"這是一個基本法的精神而已精神基本法在目前為止相關的不管是法院的判例或者對於基本法的認知跟定位它其實是宣示性跟正式性的作用具體執行還要透過各種立法跟施政計畫跟施政方針來落實它是彰顯一個我們國家的精神並不是要現在就變成"},{"start":3206.581,"end":3223.413,"text":"一、因為這一條所以其他的法條全部都會變成一樣所以我覺得不要故意誤解這件事情我們的立場是說就像憲法人民一律平等但是我們還是會有不同平等的法律去規範不同的東西所以這是一個宣示性的意義所以並沒有要去"},{"start":3224.591,"end":3241.267,"text":"建越其他法律的規定所以也不用在這邊做誤解我還強調這是基本法它是一個原則性跟政策性的宣示而已那民團的要求我們把它帶到協商現場但是並不堅持已經講了不需要再幫我們扣帽子謝謝"},{"start":3247.713,"end":3271.344,"text":"下面我們張宏祿委員發言,然後請舒巧會委員準備拜託各位呼籲一下,我們聚焦在名稱方面,謝謝主席,我想要先說,在內政委員會我們對這個法案討論很久了其實連名稱都還沒有辦法確定,就是我們要知道"},{"start":3272.484,"end":3287.821,"text":"新住民的定義大家的看法都不一樣然後新住民的範圍有多廣大家也不同不過我必須還是要再強調新住民不是一個種族不是一個特定的一個民族"},{"start":3288.342,"end":3288.382,"text":"國民黨黨團提議．"},{"start":3309.661,"end":3318.828,"text":"問題來了所以我們大家對新住民基本法或是新住民權益保障法大家有不同的看法但我個人是認為"},{"start":3321.021,"end":3349.376,"text":"我們整部的法令你從頭到尾幾乎都是作用法的作用而且我們的新住民他有很多的太陽難道非我們海外的國人也算新住民嗎然後如果新住民他在這個過程當中他不規劃變成中華民國國民或者是他離婚了或者只要生了小孩這種種的太多的樣貌都會出現"},{"start":3350.436,"end":3373.317,"text":"所以我們那時候才會說我個人是真的很堅持就是用新住民族權益保障法有兩個目的第一個身份清楚的界定第二個我們可以馬上有一個主管機關你如果是基本法你的主管機關不知道在哪裡這是一個很嚴肅的問題而且在全世界各國"},{"start":3374.658,"end":3393.499,"text":"沒有像這樣子說對一個新住民去特別立那個法令我覺得台灣是一個進步的象徵但是在一個進步的象徵裡面新住民我還要再特別強調這個院長他不是一個種族他是一個短暫的身份而已我們也不可以讓他被標籤化這一點"},{"start":3396.271,"end":3414.017,"text":"謝謝張宏祿委員的發言接下來蘇巧慧委員發言然後請吳思瑤委員準備好 謝謝院長也謝謝各位同仁我想是這樣子啦我覺得最近大家 全國的人民都透過了立法院以及電視的轉播媒體網路的轉播都開始認真學習了憲法"},{"start":3418.138,"end":3421.301,"text":"那麼我也希望透過今天的這場協商大家可以認真來瞭解一下在法律的架構裡面到底什麼是基本法什麼是作用法基本法它所定義出來到底會有什麼樣的效果"},{"start":3434.932,"end":3446.725,"text":"會約制什麼樣的法律其他的競合作用我覺得這是作為一個立法委員當我們在立法的時候真的需要要徹底了解並且確認的狀況恕我沒有辦法同意剛剛有提到說"},{"start":3452.412,"end":3479.606,"text":"如果我們基本法定出來就跟憲法一樣是在宣示一個方向和精神其實不見得會馬上處理到其他的法律那不好意思 那如果是這樣的話那我們乾脆寫一個新住民保障宣言就好了啊我們何必要訂一部法律呢其實基本法定義出來它就是最高的一個位階幾乎就等同於是憲法一樣所以憲法它規定的這麼寬這麼廣"},{"start":3481.587,"end":3509.197,"text":"但是就確立了國家的方向所以任何下面未接的法律不能夠違背憲法這是大家應該有的常識 這沒有問題所以我們今天如果我們一旦訂立的是基本法各位 那即便它是新住民基本法但它處理的不是只有新住民的部分而已它是在中華民國的法律體系裡面它就是一個基本法其他的法律碰到它未接都在它之下"},{"start":3509.917,"end":3531.444,"text":"這才是今天最大的問題呀所以為什麼我們在內政委員會從委員會時期就一直在主張說各位我們到底定的是權益保障法是一個作用法還是是基本法這是有絕對根本性的差異我也想請主席也就是我們院長在這裡能夠了解並且您也很忙您可能今天第一次聽到這樣的狀況但這確實是有重大的差異這是第一個好"},{"start":3535.805,"end":3562.647,"text":"那第二個以個案來講的話我個人本身提出的法律案我的版本本來就是基本法而我在經過了委員會的討論之後我接受了部會的意見以及委員們大家的討論也就是我剛剛的這一番論述正是因為在委員會討論之後我同意了所以我已經把我自己的版本我正是明白的表示我放棄基本法的這個版本我接受權益保障法"},{"start":3562.987,"end":3578.602,"text":"因為不但是法律未接的問題而且是權益保障法是職業作用法現在馬上訂了就可以執行不用再像基本法去訂子法對新住民的保障不是更好嗎好 那如果再往下面走的話其實在下面專責機關也都是一樣的狀況啊所以既然院長說現在只討論名稱我就跟你只討論名稱 我說到這裡第一個 我討論基本法的效用"},{"start":3587.85,"end":3607.853,"text":"第二、我用我個人的版本我放棄了我的基本法版本採用院版權益保障法的版本跟大家做舉例第三、我在這裡要求請求內政部以及現在今天在場的立委會是不是能夠就如果我們今天訂的是基本法之後會和現在的兩岸人民關係條例"},{"start":3609.174,"end":3618.402,"text":"產生什麼樣的競合作用．會發生什麼樣的效果．請在這裡留下紀錄的做說明．讓我們知道今天如果是訂了基本法．會有多嚴重的效果"},{"start":3619.124,"end":3646.91,"text":"好 我們第一輪委員發言完畢之後再請內政部跟陸委會提出說明好嗎因為還有好幾個委員不同意見接下來請吳思瑤委員發言張志倫委員請準備好 謝謝主席吳思瑤的第一輪發言我想名稱是重要的名稱會為這個法律來定調來定性那民進黨的立場我們多數委員我們都有一致的看法也包括行政部門我們總整的意見是"},{"start":3648.03,"end":3663.594,"text":"用新住民權益保障法．會優於在業黨委員所期待的用新住民基本法．的這樣一個法律名稱．我們要對新住民族的權益照顧．各方面生活的支持．應當是很務實的能夠發生實際的幫助．"},{"start":3667.995,"end":3689.346,"text":"而不是列一個很好聽的基本法但它恐怕是一個空中樓格所以我們非常務實用什麼樣的方式能夠實質具體有效快速的來幫助新住民呢如果適用權益保障法很清楚的能夠針對新住民族的權益及福利法制化"},{"start":3690.106,"end":3704.468,"text":"為未來新住民的政策提供一個清楚的法律授權如果你是定基本法的話它就是一個落實憲法平等多元精神的那樣子的基本原則它並沒有辦法直接產生效果"},{"start":3705.373,"end":3723.439,"text":"那剛剛大家都講到權益保障法很清楚就是作用法它具有實質的法律效力如果是基本法它只有政策宣示的效力大不同而在相關的政策支持的作為快或慢能夠"},{"start":3725.019,"end":3743.756,"text":"獲益於新住民的朋友們．如果用權益保障法．它可以通過後直接規範行政單位．快速執行．但是如果是基本法．你還需要去制定其他的法規．來引以作用．所以這對於新住民族的權益照顧．反而是慢的"},{"start":3744.716,"end":3764.184,"text":"最後一個就條文的內容因為權益保障法它是一個作用法我們可以很明確的就依據委員會討論的過程所定出來的它規範實際執行的方式條文的內容非常的具體可行如果是採取基本法的方法"},{"start":3764.844,"end":3783.32,"text":"它是定定精神方向原則而已的空泛的條文（沒有辦法實質（對於新住民族的權益照顧（發生直接快速的效用剛剛高進蘇美委員說（我們現在有很多部基本法（無私也要參與非常多部（就包括文化基本法"},{"start":3784.639,"end":3813.009,"text":"然後我們道路交通安全基本法我們有參與過基本法立法的委員都非常清楚它是一個空泛的基本原則的訂定所以如何、什麼樣子的立法方式、體力選擇下是對於新住民族快、有效、實質的幫助那絕對是新住民的權益保障法而不是一個比較中看而不馬上重用的基本法這是第一個名稱的部分"},{"start":3813.729,"end":3842.33,"text":"第二個我也要說今天看到這個民眾黨團的第一條我們為什麼如果要在委員會通過之後再用修正動議不是不行但是需要有清楚的提案說明所以剛剛不管是麥玉珍委員或黃珊珊委員都只說明了第一項第一項就是你們說希望能夠把反歧視的部分放進去文字可以商著那我也跟您報告"},{"start":3843.231,"end":3858.724,"text":"行政院也在研議一個全方位的叫做《反歧視法》未來那一套專法裡頭對於不管新住民、原住民不管所有的在台灣的各類性別、身障各方面的會有一道專法來保障所有的"},{"start":3859.585,"end":3884.448,"text":"人在臺灣所以是不是因需要特別在因為反歧視而去改變的委員會已經審查的第一條第一項我認為是可以相著那也很感謝你們剛說你們不堅持但第二項你們堅不堅持這就很重要了第二項我一直希望能夠從麥玉珍委員您是提案委員的口中來說服我們很清楚的揭示給大眾為什麼民眾黨要列這個文字"},{"start":3885.129,"end":3913.135,"text":"政府對於不同國籍或地區之新住民行政措施應一律平等我必須說在台灣的新住民三種一般的外配他適用的是國籍法跟入出國移民法港澳的朋友駕到台灣來他適用的是港澳條例百分之六十的陸配他適用的是兩岸人民關係條例"},{"start":3914.721,"end":3941.444,"text":"他都有不同的法律在規範提供他們必要的權利義務有不同的規範但如果麥玉珍委員您把第二項放進來意思是而且你們是用基本法的高位階換言之未來定在這裡第一條的第二項就會優於所有你會在法律的適用上發生很大的漢格也就是未來的你所定義的新住民完全都取代了《兩岸人民關係條例》對於陸培的管制"},{"start":3942.265,"end":3958.893,"text":"取代了港澳條例對於港澳人士的這個配偶在台灣他享有的或是他應盡的義務所以這樣子是完全凌駕了其他已經有的台灣的法規而當中非常敏感的有陸配他是用兩岸人民關係條例的管制"},{"start":3960.003,"end":3986.811,"text":"所以這個請麥玉珍委員您要具體的說明清楚為什麼民進黨團在委員會通過了第一條之後你們要再提修正動議而這個第二項讓我覺得非常需要探究你們的立法理由是什麼等一下請您務必要清楚的說明因為它會跟其他適用的法律身份上的適用產生非常嚴重的罕格第三點我很快做個ending剛剛你們也說因為有民團的意見"},{"start":3988.331,"end":4003.392,"text":"那我這邊也接獲了很多民團對於新住民族權益保障法的關心我想新聞大家也看到了民團在這個法案在委員會初審過後甚至要進入朝野協商的階段民團都站出來他們認為"},{"start":4005.134,"end":4026.837,"text":"朝野不要像趕鴨子一樣（通過一部拼裝車的法案（讓新住民的權益（有如泄氣的小鴨（有跟沒有變成是一樣的這個是數個新住民族的團體們他們希望要更周延不要倉促的立法因為事實上這個法案沒有經過"},{"start":4028.118,"end":4036.969,"text":"非常嚴謹或是多元的公聽會的很多的程序所以因為剛剛你們有提到民團的意見那我也必須把我這邊接觸的很多的民團他們對於快速倉促的來通過一個有跟沒有一樣的基本法"},{"start":4043.477,"end":4062.462,"text":"對他們來說．就像泄氣的鴨子一樣．我也必須表達人民的聲音．所以希望主席．等一下可以請提案委員．針對第一條的第二項．因為剛剛沒有具體說明．那我覺得這是這個條文．如果要增列的話．是非常重要的核心．我們必須清楚地來交換意見"},{"start":4064,"end":4085.435,"text":"謝謝吳世耀委員發言 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這才是比較合適的做法"},{"start":4329.233,"end":4344.183,"text":"那最後一個關於那個第一條剛剛那個第二項的部分我覺得還是要非常的小心是因為即使按照憲法因為新住民的身份他是比較模糊的他是一個過渡的階段而且很多人是不喜歡新住民這個名稱我的阿嬤就是新住民"},{"start":4344.663,"end":4367.417,"text":"在這個所謂的新著名的這個定義上他自己都很不喜歡所以呢在這個第二項的狀況之下他一定會跟兩岸條例有衝突如果今天我們使用了基本法的規定兩岸條例馬上就要問說那我們現在跟這一個基本法的衝突該怎麼辦這是馬上就必須要解決的事情而這個會非常難解決因為不管是兩岸條例還是港岸條例關於中配其實有非常細緻的規定"},{"start":4369.937,"end":4396.325,"text":"謝謝沈博洋委員的發言接下來請張志倫委員發言請張美惠委員準備好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家午安大家都辛苦了我相信不分黨派大家都是為了新住民的權益在努力可是這邊我首先要先幫我們高金昭偉來聲援這個新住民基本法是從第九屆第十屆來到第十一屆大家的不分黨派的努力之下現在才有在這個"},{"start":4398.645,"end":4424.856,"text":"這個內政部移民署的努力之下才有行政院版那當然就是因為過去長期以來這個移民署因為他是三級機關很多的跨部會他沒有辦法去協調所以現在新住民已經超過一百萬人可是在保障他的很多權益跟他的一些很多的部分是缺乏的那行政院現在目前其實每年有辦兩次的行政院的這個事務匯報一年兩次其實數量也是很少的"},{"start":4425.296,"end":4443.784,"text":"那就我了解今年上半年因為也是因為要修法的關係偷偷沒有開事務委員會所以我剛剛沈博洋委員講的我也是認同就是我哥可是我有地方要稍微補充一下就是應該要做新住民基本法才有相關的全責機關不然的話現在移民署他其實講來的人那麼少"},{"start":4444.304,"end":4472.964,"text":"它根本沒有辦法去做一個跨部會的溝通跟協調所以這還是我們第一個覺得說最需要做的所以基本法它是會連動到過去的這個未來的權責機關那我這邊還是要相對應要補充的就是新住民的定義那因為這個行政院內政部之前給出的版本是說新住民拿到身份證三年以後就不是新住民這點我覺得非常不能接受因為其實很多新住民"},{"start":4474.245,"end":4488.642,"text":"對還沒講完對不起就是新住民他基本上有分新住民而且還有分新住民的下一代其實現在很多的時候都是在享有一些獎學金或等等的一些優惠那之前我們在委員會特別討論其實新住民是要"},{"start":4489.743,"end":4516.773,"text":"滿十年滿十年以上才能參選公職那如果他三年以後他就不是新住民的話那他這臺灣人為什麼還要限制他十年以後才能參選公職而且我們現在有這麼多的新住民的委員對他們來講要如何適從所以這都是很嚴重的一個問題那最後我還是要等一下因為我不知道會不會討論到最後一條那最後一條這個我特別緊張的是我們希望最後還可以討論等一下討論的最後一條"},{"start":4518.514,"end":4545.84,"text":"結果現在這個內政部的這個版本最後一條我希望大家可以做個條解釋他居然在法條裡面列說那未來只要新住民定居了以後要優先適用本國人的法條那條第一我請問一下什麼叫做定居那第二個如果他先適用這個台灣人的法條的話本國人的法條的話那根本就完全就沒有保障了比過去那個三年拿到身份證三年的還要"},{"start":4547.332,"end":4562.932,"text":"沒有沒有沒有新住民他有一些是要用新住民的方式去保障所以我覺得這一條更是我們現在的就是要用一個基本法就是特別法結果在特別法裡面又說特別法要適用普通法這個是非常奇怪的啦因為新住民他就是要一些保障"},{"start":4563.433,"end":4591.265,"text":"我不要這樣講我相信各黨派我們大家都可以做討論那最後我要講的一個點就是說在去年的時候我們的賴清德總統他有PO了一個臉書他說我們大家要為新住民的權益大家一起來不分黨派共同來努力那請問賴清德總統當時提到新住民到底是什麼新住民是我們現在大家討論的兩岸關係條例的新住民嗎還是我們要把這個新住民的範圍來擴大"},{"start":4592.586,"end":4616.082,"text":"因為我們現在要修這個新住民基本法的原因我覺得很單純的一個點就是我們台灣要對抗老年化跟少子化我們需要說只要大家各國的人都歡迎來到台灣讓台灣變成亞洲最歡迎新住民的一個國家我相信大家都一直在努力以上謝謝謝謝張志倫委員發言接下來請羅美玲委員發言請王美惠委員準備"},{"start":4617.967,"end":4642.247,"text":"好 謝謝主席我可能要跟張助理委員說一下定居其實是取得身分證的意思啦定居 對定居是取得身分證的意思跟居留是不太一樣OK 好那首先我還是要謝謝我們朝野的同仁在不管是在委員會的審查或者是在這個協商的時候呢對我的版本很多條次的這個支持而且也都通過了"},{"start":4643.007,"end":4666.887,"text":"我當然也很謝謝行政院在擬定這個法案的時候其實也參照了很多我的版本我的版本用的名稱是叫做新住民權益保障法現在我們在討論這個名稱現在還在爭論說到底是要用租用法的新住民權益保障法還是要用新住民基本法我也覺得很納悶因為我們在討論的過程當中其實就是"},{"start":4670.99,"end":4692.474,"text":"因為大家都幾乎很多都用我的條次版本那我的版本其實就是作用法的架構我們現在通過了作用法的架構的這些條次現在倒過來要說我現在要用基本法我覺得我對這個是很困惑的那剛剛大家很多委員都提到了基本法跟這個作用法的"},{"start":4692.694,"end":4693.796,"text":"《原住民基本法》"},{"start":4707.905,"end":4721.49,"text":"現在還在訂立法令我一直想請問就是說那如果我們用基本法的話以後我們要訂定一個新住民身份法嗎那如果我們要設置一個專責機構我們要設置一個新住民專責單位的組織法嗎就一條一條這樣子來嗎本來你就可以捨盡我覺得這是一個捨盡求遠的一個做法啦你明明就是可以用作用法馬上就可以"},{"start":4735.655,"end":4754.721,"text":"讓這個法律產生效用 直接去做執行我不知道為什麼我們要回到這個這個非常遙遠、非常空洞的一個基本法那當然我也參考過原住民基本法我也參考過客家基本法覺得新住民其實我們最重視的還是在權益的這個部分"},{"start":4757.082,"end":4779.521,"text":"像客家的話它有文化語言的保存你不可能去保存來自於一百也許來自一百多個國家的新著名的語言文化嘛對不對跟客家基本法基本上是不一樣的那原著名它是原生原種那我們也許它的語言文化瀕臨也許是要絕滅我們要保存它我們怎麼可能去保存其他國家的語言文化"},{"start":4779.841,"end":4791.367,"text":"所以我們去到這些東西之後其實我們剩下就是權益的部分現在院長應該理解以上 OK 謝謝謝謝羅美玲委員發言接下來我們請王美惠委員發言請柯建銘總召準備"},{"start":4793.021,"end":4795.583,"text":"謝謝 感謝主席在這裡我本身也提到新住民權益保障法我現在是說我們新住民代保安來到我們台灣是不是你們都認爲照顧不夠所以我們今天跟大家在這裡討論"},{"start":4816.002,"end":4820.784,"text":"因為整宗以後 它就站在台灣的新聞局就視同跟台灣人一樣的管理跟照顧現在我們就是要照顧它們所以在幾個月內 我們在內政會會說它們不肯 它們回來不肯 要怎麼負責 怎麼照顧"},{"start":4842.611,"end":4842.851,"text":"國民黨黨團提議．"},{"start":4858.434,"end":4872.223,"text":"這個基本法 基本法說原住民 原住民是住古早他就在台灣啊 咱新住民是因為他來台灣 今天沒辦法適應所以咱政府 也跟咱所有 咱這裡的委員也想說 咱有牽掛的敵對 要怎麼讓他們逃三天 怎麼讓他們走"},{"start":4885.811,"end":4887.393,"text":"這不是英文的這未來它站在我們中華民國的新聞局是跟我們的管理都一樣"},{"start":4896.047,"end":4905.833,"text":"所以在這要讓我們的好董事跟主席說我會提出的是新住民權益保障法我覺得這是非常可以照顧所有大家最歡樂的事情以上謝謝王美惠委員發言聽你發言我精神都來了謝謝我們接下來請柯建民總召發言黃珊珊委員請準備"},{"start":4926.288,"end":4951.694,"text":"好 仔細各位同仁 剛才劉委員 還有張家倫 不知道誰這樣劉啟庭 還是張家倫我們看得出來 國民黨民進黨首提的全部是基本法這個先請大家注意一下 這是基本法那過去基本法為什麼這麼急切 包括馬英雄執政大選 乃至於 都沒有過一"},{"start":4957.288,"end":4957.815,"text":"沒有沒有沒有"},{"start":4960.526,"end":4989.589,"text":"他們所提的名稱都是基本法 內容在另論 內容也有問題因為以法案的最上位的東西基本法的話 那個案例是不一樣的東西潛意義保障法是潛意義保障法 那個位階是不一樣的東西那為什麼南白所提的都是基本法 這有高度的政治意涵人講的沒有錯 規矩界有的人提出來 但都不會過 沒有人敢審那這個牽涉太敏感的神經嘛"},{"start":4990.865,"end":5005.117,"text":"因為金字幕裡面包括什麼?包括木屁所以剛才我一直問黃昌昌委員包括問麥委員麥委員齁你的第一條裡面的六項是什麼都沒有回答"},{"start":5007.199,"end":5027.349,"text":"這有對於不同國籍或地區之新住民行政措施應一定平等這概念置換嘛這個讓黃山聖只能勉強打出一句話就是要照照基本法的精神不是這一個精神這裡面隱含了多少高度政治的這是一個分裂國家的寫法"},{"start":5030.39,"end":5033.673,"text":"請看大法官四字、六一八四字,他怎麼解釋?"},{"start":5054.049,"end":5074.406,"text":"因為我們憲法這個條裡面 第十一條 第十一條寫得很清楚兩岸 我們憲法常常都是 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為什麼會寫第二條民團給我們剛剛我的同仁在把民團的意見講清楚因為在台灣有非常多的"},{"start":5231.295,"end":5250.422,"text":"行政措施上面．對於歐美人士．還有東南亞人士．有明顯的差別待遇．比如說警察會常常去新住民開的小吃店．常常去臨檢找．抓逃逸外勞．但是可能比較少會去．歐美人士所開的店．或者是去對他做一些調查．"},{"start":5250.922,"end":5266.631,"text":"二、研商有關:「刑事訴訟法第七十四條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、四百四十五條之一、五百四十五條之一、六百四十五條之一、七百四十五條之一、八百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、八百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四十五條之一、九百四"},{"start":5277.077,"end":5304.834,"text":"挪上來說﹐請內政部在行政措施上面﹐也希望對待所謂的﹐一般的新住民﹐不管是歐美﹐或者東南亞﹐或者是陸配﹐他都有一個統一的措施﹐而不是單純說﹐他們會感覺他們被歧視﹐或被特別對待﹐所以這個是我們第二項﹐我們願意幫他們提案的原因﹐但是再強調一次﹐這一次這個內容﹐我們並不堅持﹐但是總是要把他的話帶到﹐也希望內政部可以﹐針對民團﹐"},{"start":5306.955,"end":5328.362,"text":"有這樣不同待遇的狀況．能夠在．不管是尤其內政部、警政署．對於警察．跟他們的建議說．在他們在操作上面．不要特別針對東南亞人士．以上我對不起．我這很關鍵．我一直沒有講清楚．你說是民團的．民團待遇的．民團是第一項還是第二項．"},{"start":5330.199,"end":5358.666,"text":"第二項是哪一個民團第二項是這個是高度我們現在在講說民團提出來我們提出來修正柯總召你請求發言哪一個民團柯總召我們今天不是來針對哪一個民團而是我們有意見提出來這不是一個討論的地方嗎我也可以講話我們民黨不同意見啊所以我得說你不用針對這件事情這是能不能對自己講的話負責不要說民黨不能講我剛剛講完了啊民團為什麼希望一致的措施就是因為他們常常被臨檢嘛那個是一回事"},{"start":5359.326,"end":5369.612,"text":"第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查有什麼關係?第二項安庭檢查"},{"start":5389.755,"end":5410.195,"text":"謝謝主席我想在澄清這些權益保障法或基本法之前先跟各位委員再補充報告一下剛剛很多委員對於就是內政部現在在處理有關於新住民權益的部分可能有一些資訊上的落差第一個我們在很早以前我們處理新住民的權益並不是從零開始"},{"start":5411.957,"end":5427.191,"text":"其實已經有很多的努力 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要成立中央的這個專責機關目前是我們查到的是違反中央行政機關組織基本法以外 我們還要再修改現在的行政院組織法"},{"start":5569.88,"end":5570.101,"text":"民進黨黨團提議． 三、研"},{"start":5586.297,"end":5601.673,"text":"中華民國政府全部的資源去依註到所有的權益保障上面﹐我們以平等原則來看待之下﹐會強烈地稀釋掉所有現在的新住民的權益保障﹐所以我們不認為現在的這個階段﹐可以適用基本法﹐以上簡單報告"},{"start":5602.574,"end":5602.754,"text":"主席"},{"start":5622.364,"end":5633.696,"text":"在所謂新住民當中有百分之六十五是所謂的陸配原陸籍的配偶所以當大家在討論新住民的時候其實"},{"start":5635.447,"end":5653.047,"text":"有最大多數的人其實是陸配那陸配的或是大陸人士他在台灣我們的在陸委會的理解或是說從1992年兩岸關係條例制定以來其實兩岸關係條例就是這一塊的基本法"},{"start":5654.4,"end":5675.903,"text":"我們同樣還有另外一個基本法叫做港澳條例是特別針對港澳人士的所以今天如果說我們把原大陸籍人士跟原港澳籍人士全部把他們通通稱為新住民然後用一個新住民基本法來概括他"},{"start":5676.764,"end":5695.056,"text":"那就變成說我們的原來的兩岸條例或是港澳條例 變成這個基本法的執法或者是作用法那第一個 這個未來會不會有什麼漢格這個未來會不會有漢格 譬如說我們兩岸條例 有一些很特別的規定"},{"start":5696.357,"end":5718.078,"text":"在婚姻、居留、定居、繼承、行事、民事、稅收、任工職等等我們對於原大陸籍人士都會有一些不同於一般的規定我們對於港澳人士也是這樣所以它是特殊規定如果說我們把它全部稱為新住民然後說要一律、要平等的話"},{"start":5718.999,"end":5741.634,"text":"那未來我們的港澳條例跟兩岸人民關係條例 有很多可能要配合修法 或者是說無法執行或者說被人家質疑說這個是違反基本法的精神 這是第一點第二點 我們這麼多年來 陸委會跟移民署都有在負責陸配的照顧工作"},{"start":5744.716,"end":5773.139,"text":"我們所理解的是其實原入籍的大陸配偶他們並不希望被稱為新住民他們希望成為台灣人所以今天如果把這個百分之六十五的這麼多的人全部把他們和其他國家的配偶一起弄作新住民似乎也有點奇怪這是第二點第三點如果說這個叫做基本法那未來可能還要成立一個行政院的新住民委員會"},{"start":5775.16,"end":5797.105,"text":"這個新住民委員會他所執掌或執行的很多工作其實和我們陸委會會重疊這個委員會他可能對於新住民的事務有他自己的見解譬如說他可能覺得說港澳人士為什麼來台一年就可以"},{"start":5798.243,"end":5822.933,"text":"申請定居他可能覺得有意見那這個東西就會和我們陸委會所執掌的港澳條例有所衝突那這個時候到底是這個新住民委員會比較大還是我們陸委會比較大這個問題又出來了所以我們在這個法律的行政院的討論過程之中我們是希望說我們還是保留原來讓兩岸條例來"},{"start":5825.794,"end":5826.435,"text":"主席主席主席"},{"start":5843.506,"end":5865.538,"text":"這樣就好了 因為它的基本法這個概念實在太高了它會把我們的港澳條例跟這個兩岸條例全部變成它的執法是 謝謝謝謝陸委會的說明那請問其他相關的勞動部、考選部、人事行政總處、主席總處有沒有類似相關重要的意見要補充"},{"start":5867.179,"end":5882.511,"text":"沒有 我們請蘇巧慧委員發言發言完畢後 我們要休息來協商一下名稱張宏路委員請準備好 謝謝院長 也謝謝辛苦努力的大家尤其今天我們很高興民眾黨有黃委員可以加入討論我是這樣覺得其實我們今天大家都不分黨派很誠意的在這裡要為新住民的權益做保護這部法案我們也真的討論了很多了"},{"start":5896.943,"end":5918.682,"text":"那個有沒有機會是讓我可以跟黃委員對話一下不好意思喔可不可以讓我跟黃委員對話一下嘿對我是覺得大家真的不分黨派都在為新住民權益而努力那修法的過程其實就是大家把不同的意見帶到這個議場上面來那如果大家第一不同意見可以整合當然是最好那第二如果有自己"},{"start":5919.142,"end":5934.083,"text":"的版本當中有設想不足之處﹐經過聽到別人的版本意見以後﹐願意修正﹐我覺得這也不是什麼壞事﹐不要說別的﹐我自己的版本就是﹐我就提基本法﹐然後我現在已經接受成為權益保障法了啊﹐"},{"start":5934.944,"end":5944.516,"text":"所以改變並不是壞事而是我出於對新住民權益保障的初衷但整盤的法律看過以後我發現繼續堅持基本法會有這樣的狀況所以我願意調整往這個方向前進這才叫做協商 這才叫做討論嘛"},{"start":5953.948,"end":5976.862,"text":"所以我用我自己更改做例子那再一次跟大家做參考剛剛牛許廷、牛委員有說我們在討論的過程中是用基本法的架構去做討論恕我不能同意這一點大家如果看一下手上這個黃色紙的這一張的話其實在第五頁的地方大家可以看到有我的版本是蘇巧慧等26人的第十條"},{"start":5977.782,"end":5986.966,"text":"我當時竟然是叫做基本法 所以我的第十條寫的是政府應尊重新著名之語言、民俗節慶、文化藝術及價值觀這種就是標準基本法的寫法"},{"start":5993.169,"end":6015.522,"text":"可是我們現在委員會通過的已經是什麼了是大家各黨派都通過已經委員會通過的條文大家可以看一下在我們通過的條文這樣子第七條甚至是我們這個第八條這樣子我們通過的版本是包括了第十一條之一、第十二條然後行政院的這個版本當中我們提出來的是第八條還有後面"},{"start":6018.664,"end":6022.107,"text":"第十條 對不起 我說錯了第六頁裡面的第十條、第十一條、第十二條這三條就用這三條來看好了這個都已經在審查會修正通過了我們上面寫的是什麼我們上面寫的是已經到政府應辦理生活適應服務"},{"start":6036.718,"end":6055.507,"text":"輔導、醫療、生育、保健等等的這些措施甚至到第十一條是已經到了說在台的新住民家庭政府應提供家庭婚姻及育兒等諮詢服務並於直轄市縣市政府設新住民家庭服務中心都寫得這麼具體的狀況了這怎麼不會是作用法呢我們的討論是朝作用法在討論的啊"},{"start":6061.67,"end":6082.586,"text":"所以也已經委員會都通過往這個方向在前進了今天怎麼會變成是說欸我們當初是《草基本法》不是啊我的版本當時都被大家說欸不是不是不要應該這樣我們要具體一點那所以今天中整整個中華民國法律體系我們的國情與中國之間的關係之後以及委員會通過的數個條文其實我們有必要要糾結在"},{"start":6086.869,"end":6109.165,"text":"真的就是他一句個人說的有必要糾結在條文的名稱這麼重要嗎對我們認為重要我們也提出了這樣可是我始終聽不出來堅持基本法最後的原因是什麼就只說我們覺得基本法因為新住民很重要所以我們要叫基本法我覺得這樣不是一個很理想的狀況啦所以在最後再做一次補充請大家參考"},{"start":6110.726,"end":6134.52,"text":"謝謝蘇貼雅委員接下來請張宏路委員發言 發言完我們就必須要休息來協商一下了好請那個院長我知道現在等一下要休息要處理名稱可是大家都講這麼久了那剛剛我們今天也有很多保留的條文什麼那剛剛如果第一條親民黨也不堅持那就是我們先處理嘛我們先尊重我們內政委員會大家已經那麼久了"},{"start":6136.161,"end":6139.084,"text":"就把它處理了 不然永遠都沒有進度啊"},{"start":8223.003,"end":8224.946,"text":"好 謝謝各位黨團幹部 謝謝謝謝各位黨團幹部、各位官員 謝謝大家"},{"start":8249.36,"end":8265.714,"text":"各位黨團幹部剛才我們私下各黨團主要負責溝通完畢以後要請各位黨團幹部還有行政部門的官員、閣員一起來聽一下就是這個名稱的問題大家現在只濃縮在名稱的問題那我們請"},{"start":8272.639,"end":8300.633,"text":"柯總召請說 簡短二要好 名稱我看大家過了一輪新住民權益保障法當然都有談過了 副總召沒問題國民黨團總召剛才關切新住民權益的問題副總召要不要請發言我剛剛也跟提案人麥委員也有多方面的商量"},{"start":8302.065,"end":8327.439,"text":"我是覺得這個案子能夠在立法院通過不管是民眾黨、民進黨大家攜手過即使名稱在我認為大家協商好就好那重點是要實質照顧這些新住民所以我可能比較重視的是第二塊、第三塊第二塊就是他要成立什麼樣的機構"},{"start":8328.942,"end":8357.088,"text":"要成立什麼樣的機構到底是二級機關還是三級機關那像二級機關的話整個行政院整個組織改造可能全部要做調整那是不是就是說過去在移民署下面移民署下面對新住民不管是有幫忙也好還是相對單位也好我們現在是不是成立我是建議成立新住民署在內政部下面"},{"start":8359.212,"end":8385.668,"text":"那當然柯總裁是希望是私啦但是我們是覺得署的話是比較適合至少跟移民署是平行的當然私也是跟移民署是平行的都是平行單位都是三級單位那我覺得在這個部分實施對新住民的照顧的部分這是一個招牌在那裡大家看得到的這個東西可能很重要"},{"start":8386.533,"end":8400.721,"text":"那 剛剛 劉思芳 劉部長有提到說 如果施的話 他現成就可以處理如果是署的話 還要整個送到 這個組織法還要送到立法院來"},{"start":8402.461,"end":8411.87,"text":"那我們這邊當然那個民眾黨我想那個那個珊珊這個書記長還是這個麥委員對這個區塊我希望待會也表達一下意見那如果說"},{"start":8420.918,"end":8447.285,"text":"我們現在暫時授權暫時授權這個內政部看怎麼樣先讓他在一個地方然後我們建議的部分我們做成一個附帶決議希望成立署還是怎麼樣我們給你多少時間去慢慢調整把它調整出來因為還是要經過立法院那第三個部分就是實質的照顧實質的照顧因為你有一個明確的內政部下面的一級機關"},{"start":8449.478,"end":8474.55,"text":"我相信他的預算的編列 立法院都很關心他有實質的預算可以照顧這些新住民因為畢竟一百多萬人 這是一個新的族群要有足夠的預算來照顧我們原住民委員會 科委會大概都有一個試樣在那裡大家可以看到有多少預算我是覺得實質照顧的部分也請內政部能夠盡量給他放寬"},{"start":8479.377,"end":8489.41,"text":"這是帶來我們現在一個初步的因為因為院長是希望說大家都一起來照顧原住民我們能夠盡快達成共識好不好謝謝福昆吉總統接下來請臺灣民眾黨的黃珊珊幹事長請表達意見 謝謝"},{"start":8497.324,"end":8517.73,"text":"主席我現在想說後面有兩條要怎麼改所以這個時間有點可能要花點時間然後名稱的部分當然我們還是希望基本法是一種精神還是強調的是精神我們希望有這樣的精神在但是如果說在法律上面已經到作用的程度我們又不排除修正成"},{"start":8518.95,"end":8547.83,"text":"《權益保障法》但是 裡面還有幾個條文我們是不是名稱的部分可以暫緩一下我們先把裡面的東西都搞定否則我們可能也要黨團要再討論一次關基本法的內容或者是基本法的名稱所以我先把內容先做一些完整的討論以後再跟內政部協商讓大家都清楚這些原來的在委員會裡面的誤會現在的狀況是怎麼樣我把它搞清楚一點然後我們再來把這個名稱處理比較好要求名稱保留就對了"},{"start":8548.37,"end":8552.993,"text":"我現在黨團幹部先發言等一下各位委員如果有意見再補充發言我們先請黨團幹部表達政黨的立場我們再請柯總召請剛才副分局總召的意見很清楚第一個他名稱是《監獄保障法》"},{"start":8572.554,"end":8598.896,"text":"第二個要成立一個 它知道成立二級的是不可能成立三級的是署 它比較prefer是署那我講說施和署都是三級機關所以剛才劉世東部長有談到成立一個專責機關 要去研究一下那成立署要多久 要不要修法等等 我們再來談我想這個保持彈性"},{"start":8599.617,"end":8626.404,"text":"今天我們要談的就是說,那是要照顧新住民,那要照顧他,那這很重要。所以至於黃總,黃中央委員所談的,他說先把幾項先談一談,再接近基本法或是這個嫌疑保障法。這底下都是嫌疑保障法,怎麼可能再回到基本法去了,那照顧是不一樣,我們這個還是這個要先談清楚啦。"},{"start":8627.404,"end":8636.653,"text":"就是就是潛意保障法這樣才往下走嘛謝謝柯總召接下來牛許廷委員舉手發言還沒其他委員要發言喔"},{"start":8637.537,"end":8665.973,"text":"沒有好 請林委員謝謝好 謝謝主席剛剛經過各黨在協商時間大概互相溝通之後大概已經有一點點開始有往有共識的方向走那當然是一件好事那我始終顧慮的是因為當初我們修正法條的時候我還是認為是偏原則性的規範那麼這件事情如果真的在名稱上面大家最後要先求有再求好往這個方向對較的話我們會提一個附帶決議要求主管機關至少在這個法順利修正通過之後上路的一年要非常完善的執行報告"},{"start":8666.713,"end":8683.603,"text":"如果說這個確實是因為只有原則性的規範而有若干不足的地方至少我們修法都非常有正當性也有足夠的參考的依據用這樣的方式來做一個處理以上這個意見的表達希望大家可以支持 謝謝我現在根據草泥各個黨團的意見我嘗試性的來唸一下這個結論好不好"},{"start":8686.705,"end":8706.469,"text":"大家認同就認同不認同大家可以再發言特別請民進黨黨團特別要注意仔細聆聽一下約大致這樣我們法案名稱照行政院提案通過這是第一點大家有意見可以表明沒問題第二點我們請內政部著手研擬相關附帶決議我們等保留條文處理完之後"},{"start":8706.809,"end":8726.273,"text":"再來討論內政部現在索尼的附帶決議那這樣方式剛剛劉委員正式提出是一年的時間也許內政部很厲害神通廣大說明三個月就寧寧完畢也有可能所以我們尊重內政部的索尼那現在如果確定法案名稱照行政院版本通過的話我們就可以往下面這幾個條件開始審議了那這一點這索尼"},{"start":8730.646,"end":8736.516,"text":"各黨團大家大致上的意思我把它濃縮成這樣子特別請問一下台灣民眾黨黨團表達意見"},{"start":8767.992,"end":8790.188,"text":"我跟副總長還有各位委員建議我們現在尊重內政部長他去炒你另外一個附帶決議之後我們再來討論因為後面還有好幾個附帶決議我們可以一起討論好不好那跟班委員講我們就是都是要照顧新住民這絕對沒有問題只是方法、速度、幅度、預算等等還有名稱好不好這一點我想我們想法都是一樣那如果沒有問題我們就進入下面一個條文討論好 謝謝我們進入第二條"},{"start":8792.335,"end":8799.332,"text":"現在的名稱就是通過,因為我們黃珊珊委員也並沒有堅持好,麥義忠委員也點頭,我們現在請內政部您一個附帶決議,謝謝第二條"},{"start":8813.847,"end":8829.321,"text":"各位委員同仁,現在我們第二條有台灣民眾黨黨團及國民黨團提案的第二條,也有羅美玲委員、張志倫委員、蘇巧慧委員、王美惠委員還有邱振軍等提案行政院也有第二條的條文"},{"start":8842.43,"end":8848.457,"text":"有關第二條的部分我們建議是不是可以按照原來我們行政院的提案包括一二三四五"},{"start":8849.558,"end":8876.938,"text":"還有下面的本法保障對象及於新住民子女那這樣的完整性會比較充實就是我原來有跟大家報告的話不管他是居留永久居留長期居留按照現在的方式不管是從移民法兩岸人民關係條例或者是外國人攬查或是流財久用等等這些甚至包括有一些橋外生或者是有一些移工在某一定的一個程序上轉換之後也可能變為是新住民可以保障的範圍"},{"start":8877.759,"end":8888.843,"text":"所以基本上是還蠻大的那而且是擴充的這個保障所以希望各位黨團的幹部能夠支持謝謝謝謝內政部劉部長的報告跟說明接下來請我們請臺灣民眾黨黃幹事長說明"},{"start":8896.067,"end":8909.903,"text":"因為麥義正委員在委員會的時候他有堅持在第二項的部分就是前項第一款及第二款經許可居留的外國人以為兼具我國國籍者為限他擔心影響到我們的新住民的子女"},{"start":8910.784,"end":8932.737,"text":"二、這個條款剛剛我跟內政部去溝通的時候他們是說這個是因為有很多是外國人是我們台灣人跟台灣人在國外生的孩子那他們會可能取得了國外的國籍但他也因為屬人關係所以他也取得台灣的國籍只是他沒有在台灣設戶籍"},{"start":8934.238,"end":8948.25,"text":"所以他其實嚴格來說是屬於臺灣人所以他要排除在臺灣人新住民之外那麥玉珍委員擔心的是這個會不會牽涉到像麥玉珍這樣子他的他嫁來臺灣他先生是臺灣人"},{"start":8949.711,"end":8975.573,"text":"他生了兩個小孩也是拿台灣的身份當然可能也有可能會有其他國家的身份這樣的新住民子女會不會受排除這個是我們所concern的所以是不是請內政部再清楚的在協商的過程再說明一次你們這一項排除的對象會不會影響到現有的新住民身份的相關的子女他可能會具有外國國籍的這些新住民子女請說明"},{"start":8977.302,"end":9004.105,"text":"請我們的領域組長來講一下,好嗎?稍微等一下,還有其他委員要發言嗎?內政部說要等一下,現在麥正希委員現在坐下來了剛剛講的,你可不可以跟我說明說這個是排除兩個父母都是台灣人在國外生的台灣的孩子因為他可能取得了外國籍在台灣他是認定他是台灣人他具有台灣國籍的資格"},{"start":9004.565,"end":9033.08,"text":"但他可能沒有戶籍﹑或者有戶籍﹑但他都屬於臺灣人﹑所以你們這一條排除的是這個那麥玉貞委員擔心的是﹑像他的小孩﹑他的小孩可能也會取得另外一個國家的國籍﹑但他先生是臺灣人﹑他是新住民﹑他的小孩是不是也會被這個排除﹑那是不是會有一些人﹑在臺灣生了孩子﹑可是在臺灣沒有人帶﹑所以送回去國家﹑他的國家以後﹑他就變成不是我們認定的新住民﹑請說明"},{"start":9034.261,"end":9058.578,"text":"我等一下,院長,這裡面這個第二條條文他們有修正,麥正文有所誤解,他把第五款全部拿掉大部分,他自己認真有誤解,反正是在台灣生的都是台灣人你知道嗎?不是啦,第二項你把,第二項是三項,我知道,等一下"},{"start":9059.986,"end":9060.286,"text":"請內政部說明,謝謝"},{"start":9085.599,"end":9099.091,"text":"各位委員跟大家報告有關剛剛所提委員擔心的第二項前項第一款及第二款經許可拘留之外國人以未兼具我國國籍者為限"},{"start":9099.932,"end":9121.73,"text":"本項的意義主要是提到一位外國人如果兼具我國國籍者包括外國人兼具居住臺灣地區設有戶籍國民或者是他兼具臺灣地區無戶籍國民不論是哪一種身份這兩者在我的國籍法都是屬於我國國民他享有國民待遇"},{"start":9122.23,"end":9147.276,"text":"所以我們認為他不應該是屬於這個本法要特別保護的新住民那就用白話一點講我國國民所生的子女依照國籍法均具有我國國籍所以這些海外國民他的世世代代他都具有我國國籍他本來就可以依照移民法以無戶籍國民的身份在臺灣居留所以他們的基於權利義務的橫平我們認為"},{"start":9150.098,"end":9153.423,"text":"本法是保護特別的對象．所以他們不宜納入"},{"start":9155.009,"end":9179.823,"text":"但是我再問的問題就是像麥玉珍委員她的孩子她可能回到越南去生活那她會不會同樣的被排除掉我們的新住民很多有這樣的狀況請說明有關委員所垂詢的有關新住民跟國人所生的子女及取得國人身份他們就是臺灣人即便他回到了越南他還是臺灣人"},{"start":9181.544,"end":9206.613,"text":"所以在本法裡面所定義的新住民指的是配偶本身我們的新住民沒有包含子女但是為了要保障新住民的子女所以我們在第三項寫說本法保障對象即於新住民子女所以委員的孩子指的是新住民子女這個身份他的定義不會在新住民的定義裡面以上"},{"start":9207.972,"end":9231.505,"text":"所以我們今天希望這個把它寫成會議紀錄就是新住民只有一個人叫佩偶然後佩偶的子女當然受本法保障所以不會因為他有戶籍又國籍的新住民子女跟國籍無關 可以這樣說嗎基本上是新住民子女跟他有沒有具雙重國籍無關 可以這樣說嗎"},{"start":9232.984,"end":9261.23,"text":"大聲說可以可以這一點就是要讓所有的新住民團體跟委員都清楚因為他們的身份是新住民子女對跟新住民定義無關就新住民只有一種人叫做配偶結束不是不是這次我們定義擴及白領好沒有關係至少配偶是叫做新住民對對對子女叫做新住民子女對再強調一次配偶是屬於新住民"},{"start":9262.5,"end":9262.941,"text":"就是國民了嘛"},{"start":9279.292,"end":9306.985,"text":"我們在白話文再講一次就是剛剛講的排除的這個外國人兼具我國國籍者只有外國人居住臺灣設有戶籍的國民以及外國人兼具臺灣地區無戶籍國民的身份只有這兩種人不會是新住民在海外生的子女是所以新住民子女本身就受保障新住民子女不因他的國籍而受到排除是"},{"start":9308.007,"end":9336.905,"text":"兩句話內政部就把立法說明裏面把它補進去立法說明加進去 因為居正有沒有什麼問題那各位黨團幹部那如果第二條我們就照行政院所提內政部的我們來通過好不好但是第五款未滿三年這四個字要把它劃掉取消掉刪掉了我們到最新的內政部所送的版本好不好第二條條我們照內政部版本通過好不好好謝謝"},{"start":9339.037,"end":9363.686,"text":"報告主席我們有增訂十九條增訂十九條好報告各位黨團幹部各位委員團現在我們接下來處理第三條保留條文的第三條OK欸院長剛剛第二條齁會搭配增訂第十九條要不要先處理增訂第"},{"start":9379.499,"end":9383.384,"text":"各位委員手上我們剛剛發了一個增訂第十九條條文這個條文"},{"start":9385.714,"end":9399.586,"text":"我念一遍給各位聽一下第十九條金旭格在台灣地區定居之新住民其權利義務應優先適用有戶籍國民之規定這個在各位的手上各位如果沒有意見我們就照內政部請張志文委員發言"},{"start":9402.168,"end":9418.923,"text":"好 感謝主席剛剛第一次發言的時候我就對這第十九條希望說不管我們就是不分黨派都很支持新住民可是第十九條的部分一定要明確定義因為它是當時在刪除第二條第四款就是說滿身份證 拿到身份證"},{"start":9420.224,"end":9440.541,"text":"三年以後就不算新住民所以他把這個刪掉那現在徵第十九條他的內容是已在臺灣定居之新住民定居剛有大家有討論到定居就是拿到身份證以後其權利義務應優先適用有戶籍國民之規定所以這樣子我單純看這個法條的解釋好像是"},{"start":9441.741,"end":9458.191,"text":"這個新住民這個拿到身份證以後他就不是適用新住民的一些一些優惠的一些規定而是要先適用我國國民的規定那這樣子是不是會有沒有辦法保障他們的問題變成拿到身份證之後優先適用"},{"start":9459.071,"end":9477.246,"text":"有戶籍就是本國之規定所以這邊我一定要拜託因為我現在解讀法條是這個內容是這樣的感覺沒問題 我請內政部說明謝謝好 謝謝張政委員發言請內政部再補謝謝張委員其實剛剛我們有跟很多我們的幹部有提到其實是不會的那相關的細節我是不是再請我們這樣講一下拜託 拜託"},{"start":9479.082,"end":9507.14,"text":"是 跟各位委員報告有關本條之所以要在這裡明確是因為基本上法律上的權利義務應該要明確化那我們今天透過這部專法創設了一個新住民的身份所以我們也希望在法律上他們的權利義務要明確那因為他們已經取得國人身份所以這裡指的定居是指取得身份證的意思也就是說取得身份證的這些新住民他的權利義務應優先適用有戶籍國性我想這個應該不會有人反對"},{"start":9508.822,"end":9536.358,"text":"我們在立法理由 我想委員擔心的應該是說新住民他在成為新住民之前他可能享有許多的社會福利還有一些輔助措施那他擔心的是說 如果寫了這一條是不是那些都沒有了那我在這邊說明因為剛剛委員有這樣的擔心事務上在我們在第一現場上我們對於已經取得身份跟未取得身份的"},{"start":9536.798,"end":9559.944,"text":"只要是新住民有需要﹐我們都會提供相關的福利措施﹐包括所有的生活適應課程﹐多元文化活動﹐或者所有的﹐他們需要的一些執訊等等﹐都有在做提供﹐所以為了要讓委員放心﹐所以我想剛剛黃珊珊委員建議我們這邊﹐有關立法理由應該要明確化﹐那我這邊就宣讀一下﹐我們對於立法理由怎麼樣去把它做修正﹐以上"},{"start":9561.164,"end":9573.741,"text":"新住民成為國人後除應適用我國既有法律享有相同之權利與負擔義務外政府仍應對其新住民提供所需之生活輔助與服務措施"},{"start":9576.738,"end":9601.767,"text":"我再講一下 你可能再具體一點因為剛剛擔心的是 這個叫做權利義務適用有國籍的國民我覺得可以刮鬍舉例 比如說應當兵 或者是國民義務教育 權利跟義務那另外你剛剛講的生活保障 那叫做權益措施就受新住民的生活保障的這些措施 並不受這個影響"},{"start":9603.328,"end":9621.164,"text":"他還是可以得到這些你剛剛講的這些措施的福利我想這個把它再理清楚一點比較好因為權力義務聽起來就好像你就只是一般國民了那他們在乎的是說我一些生活上的適應可能還是需要照顧的話是不是在立法理由再具體化一點"},{"start":9622.104,"end":9630.652,"text":"可以 剛剛那個黃珊珊委員講的齁 我們會在最後的兩句話 會再把你講的部分再把它放進去裡頭 講得更清楚 更清晰這樣子齁 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他要應用這邊 或者沒有應用 他有權利決定嘛 對不對 我的意思是這樣謝謝 我們請羅美玲委員請發言謝謝院長 我支持麥義貞委員的說法 因為我是覺得這十九條其實真的不需要增訂我是真的覺得是化蛇添足 根本就不需要所以這部分是不是可以請行政單位拿掉"},{"start":9843.854,"end":9872.191,"text":"好 行政院內政部 劉部長跟內政部說話這樣好不好 因為我們在法律的體力上面我們還是可不可以請法務部幫我們解釋一下就是說我們大家都知道 你說生活輔助 其他的照顧服務都是要放進去但是如果你把它拿掉以後 會不會有其他的在法律體力上面 適用上的困擾 可以嗎"},{"start":9873.998,"end":9887.427,"text":"法務部有代表過來黃珊珊委員要發言是吧黃珊珊委員請發言院長部長我覺得如果這一條原來都在版本裡面沒有的話就真的沒必要增訂嘛反正"},{"start":9888.548,"end":9916.827,"text":"意思一樣他拿了身份證他本來就要服臺灣的兵役在臺灣念書全力以赴都是就叫做廢話啦我覺得那如果說優先不優先也沒有什麼優先不優先他已經是國民他就是服中華民國的法律這條沒有徵定的必要也沒關係第二個你說他的權益沒有受影響那就不用徵定啦好不好就把它拿掉啦這條我具體建議拿掉比較好啦"},{"start":9917.401,"end":9925.135,"text":"好 謝謝三位委員都表達希望能夠取消這個第十九條條文請問法務部的廖參是在現場嗎請表達意見 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非常的不清楚"},{"start":10194.85,"end":10208.294,"text":"這才叫做多此一舉因為只是把上面的文字照唸我自己看就懂了對我也能夠理解是這樣所以我會建議是如果各位委員也都認為說其實想像不出來這是會是一個什麼樣的狀況因為沒有任何會有這種雙重資源浪費因為事實上特別法規定的就是新住民過渡的階段他已經變成國民了就是國民了大家也就是照正常法他就脫離了這部法律這樣子來走了這本來就是這樣規定了的話"},{"start":10224.298,"end":10243.454,"text":"好 那大家都同意不用再多此一舉的規定那這一條其實可以把它變成是在第二條的立法說明的最後一項變成是立法說明也可以啊也可以是放在這裡就可以了不一定要成為一個新設的第十九條的文字那這樣我也可以接受"},{"start":10244.255,"end":10271.913,"text":"那我是認為政府 行政部門在討論 在解釋 在說明自己的理由的時候是不是應該是像我這樣那這種說法 與會的委員會不會比較聽得懂剛才那個單位是法務部的廖參事我可以報告一下不好意思 廖參事 因為他不知道哪一位他講的是沒有錯啊請柯建民空口招要發言是吧沒有 他講的也沒有錯啊"},{"start":10274.447,"end":10290.615,"text":"他是男的他還是女的他?柯總統說法務部六三事講得非常的好,我補充一下那接下來各位委員同仁還有沒有什麼其他的意見?沒有這樣我們就放在第二條的立法說明裡面,好嗎?"},{"start":10300.305,"end":10309.528,"text":"那各位黨團幹部我們內政部所增訂第十九條剛剛我們吳仕耀委員說希望病人討論我們就不予採納好現在我們繼續往第三條第三條"},{"start":10311.371,"end":10333.96,"text":"報告 報告院長您可不可以裁示一下就是第二條裡面是不是按照各位委員所提到的就是說把我們剛剛所主張的這個部分就是一段話放在第二條的立法說明裡面把它明確化那我們就了解我們當然是尊重這個檔案我想這應該 劉部長講這個是有道理的我們就把剛剛19條這個放在我們第二條條的立法說明裡面我們同意 好不好 謝謝好 謝謝院長好 現在第三條 謝謝 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謝謝總召剛剛我有跟大家報告就是說我們的主管機關是內政部那但是呢 未來有關有關 比如說我們可能要對 跨部會協商 比如說要跟陸委會協商要跟勞動部或是衛福部協商的話到原住民的協調匯報他有一個比較綜合性的跨部會的一個協調匯報那我們比較好執行 以上那有層級呢層級在行政院"},{"start":10503.328,"end":10507.913,"text":"行政院為研議協調及推動本法相關事務應召開新住民事務協調匯報"},{"start":10518.593,"end":10534.427,"text":"應定期召開新住民事務協調彙報為什麼這麼講是因為 主要在召開的召這個前面加定期兩個字應定期召開好不好因為為什麼因為你如果說你這樣寫的話好像應召開那就召開一次之後這一條就就沒用了你知道為什麼"},{"start":10535.568,"end":10562.049,"text":"當然我還是一樣我們今天就是展現今天展現就是對新住民的這個照顧跟關懷那我也肯定行政院的版本這提出來是已經主動說要召開那我們就是應定期召開好不好 謝謝各位黨團幹部報告我們洪孟愷書記長所提就是說在第五條應召開前面加兩個字 定期召開各位黨團 其他黨團有沒有寶貴意見"},{"start":10563.686,"end":10575.585,"text":"如果沒有的話,我們就照草原協商通過,好不好?好,照草原協商條文通過,謝謝現在有台灣民眾黨最新提出來修正動議第九條"},{"start":10578.257,"end":10593.816,"text":"已經分發到各位委員的手上第九條政府因為國家考試設立新住民事務、語言等相關類科以因應新住民公務之需求我們請考選部劉長赤請表達意見"},{"start":10596.686,"end":10625.165,"text":"主席各位委員 考選部在此就這個第九條表達不連接劉市長 劉市長你可能上班木柵太遠了我們都聽不見你聲音 你大聲一點是 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我都發揮啊"},{"start":12155.163,"end":12156.525,"text":"內政部所通過這個決議您能不能接受"},{"start":12175.219,"end":12183.465,"text":"各位委員同仁我們現在內政部所送過來本法立法通過一年內內政部將成立專責的一級單位大家有沒有意見沒有意見通過非常感謝大家我們現在休息"},{"start":12205.727,"end":12209.901,"text":"對 我們七點五十分開始好了 休息 大家吃晚飯好 謝謝大家"},{"start":14854.037,"end":14873.487,"text":"謝謝 謝謝各位黨團幹部請坐 謝謝 謝謝 謝謝謝謝本院總秘書長、各位黨團幹部、各位委員、同仁、各位列席的閣員跟官員非常謝謝大家各位官員、閣員的參與今天介紹一下今天各單位"},{"start":14882.659,"end":14909.574,"text":"我們今天列席的官員、閣議員我特別介紹一下首先歡迎國家發展委員會的彭副主委歡迎您內政部劉部長他剛才在現在董次長歡迎您經濟部的何次長歡迎您勞動部的許次長歡迎您交通部的陳次長歡迎您衛福部的呂次長歡迎您"},{"start":14910.68,"end":14932.173,"text":"原住民的古仲副主委 歡迎您行政院主席總署的陳副主席長 歡迎您報告各位黨團幹部、各位列席的所有官員我們現在繼續協商的是國民黨團凝聚零四零三災政重建條例草案本案經第一會及第十次會議決定近乎二讀並由國民黨團負責召集協商"},{"start":14935.236,"end":14961.103,"text":"本席因國民黨黨團請求對本案進行首次協商針對本法案的內容我們先請提案的國民黨黨團代表進行說明再由相關部門請回應我們先從法案名稱開始進行討論請國民黨團先說明謝謝院長、柯總召、各政黨代表人、各部會首長這是一個比較嚴肅的問題"},{"start":14963.325,"end":14989.119,"text":"因為從今年四月三號到現在已經時隔三個多月那這次的震度是七點二級跟九二一大地震的七點三級是完全同級的大地震那當時在九二一大地震發生之後在兩週內立法院就立刻通過了這個九二一的震災條例"},{"start":14990.629,"end":15011.098,"text":"那接著下來在莫拉克風災的時候也是非常嚴重也是在最短的時間內立法院馬上通過了這個莫拉克的重建條例那跟大家報告就是說這一次的地震到現在災民五千多人無家可歸到現在都還沒有辦法處理"},{"start":15014.015,"end":15042.051,"text":"我們也感謝陳建仁前行政院長他匡列了也通過285.5億這個要做整個政災以及重建以及振興就行政院已經核定了285.5億那在這裡面因為隔了三個月現在的狀況非常的嚴峻非常的嚴峻"},{"start":15044.081,"end":15044.521,"text":"國民黨黨團提議 三、研"},{"start":15071.673,"end":15094.788,"text":"所以接下來這個本來就是弱勢的地區的這些以觀光產業為主的這些飯店旅館民宿餐廳他們有面對的一個就是要怎麼樣員工是不是還要繼續聘用銀行的利息還要繼續繳所以現在包括這麼大的一個大集團"},{"start":15099.804,"end":15123.975,"text":"五、雲朗集團在花蓮漢平飯店終止營業五、五星旗在太魯閣山上的京英酒店停止營業現在花蓮停止營業的飯店越來越多"},{"start":15125.128,"end":15125.388,"text":"國民黨黨團提議．三、研"},{"start":15149.345,"end":15177.327,"text":"國債市場所以現在各種的問題都非常的嚴重然後呢尤其是災民的部分災民現在固然有這兩百八十五億裡面有對他們有暫時的這個租房租房的這個補助但是這個期限六個月以後又再六個月那現在租房你說一家人"},{"start":15178.356,"end":15202.778,"text":"他要去租一個房子他能住多久那我們現在請了慈濟協助幫忙慈濟的也是只蓋一個中紀屋而且中紀屋要一年以後才能完工那現在還有包括房子倒了他是有貸款的他現在不是破產而已還要去還款"},{"start":15206.012,"end":15224.367,"text":"現在這麼大的一個問題而且本來就是一個經濟弱勢的地區現在這些問題要怎麼解決那也謝謝行政院有匡列285億那基本上我們這一次是純粹就人的部分災民的部分所以就行政院"},{"start":15225.82,"end":15253.891,"text":"所匡列的民防災損安置及重建58.4億這是中央匡列的還有產業振興40.8億針對中央匡列的部分總共99.2億我們的條例就是在修正的部分我們修正為99.2億完完全全就是行政院匡列的部分"},{"start":15256.382,"end":15275.499,"text":"這張圖卡大家看到第二頁的這個圖卡就是行政院網站上公告的是完全是以行政院的版本為主那其他的公共建設這個重建補強的部分184億內由中央去進行處理還有其他的部分1.9億"},{"start":15277.654,"end":15292.419,"text":"我要特別強調這五十八點四億跟四十點八億是用在所有包括新北、臺北、花蓮、桃園、紅丹戶、黃丹戶通通在內"},{"start":15295.172,"end":15322.372,"text":"也是符合當時行政會核定的這個部分也是針對零四零二大地震所有受災的地方都一體適用希望說這個能夠給災民最大的協助跟幫忙記得2018年零二零六大地震的時候花蓮的烏島災民大概是兩百人我們大概在一個很短的時間能夠處理完"},{"start":15325.145,"end":15325.645,"text":"總共一千九百戶"},{"start":15346.03,"end":15364.82,"text":"所以現在這個問題已經有五、六千的災民要怎麼去處理我打斷一下麻煩請國防會的彭副主委要準備發言結束要請您說明了所以現在我聽到大家在講說誰要來主責這個事情"},{"start":15367.501,"end":15392.459,"text":"所以這個條例有三十二條因為原有的條例二十四條、二十五條已經刪除因為那個已經不合時宜了那基本大家報告這個條例後面大概都要講比如說第一條是參照莫拉克風災的重建條例第二條也是參照莫拉克風災第三條是參照莫拉克風災民進黨團所提出的當時"},{"start":15393.56,"end":15416.476,"text":"所以這裡面的每一條幾幾戶都是按照過去災情的時候我們所走過的路然後用當時的這個情況來希望比照辦理能夠盡快把這次所有災民受災戶的問題能夠盡快來解決好不好 謝謝也請各政黨代表能夠來支持"},{"start":15417.236,"end":15433.539,"text":"政黨委員 莊瑞雄委員要發言莊瑞雄委員發言完以後請彭主委準備發言彭主委發言完畢以後請內政部跟經濟部兩位政次還有交通部的三位政次請準備發言我先通知一下你們好準備一下好 請莊瑞雄委員請"},{"start":15434.98,"end":15461.566,"text":"謝謝院長,還有我們協商代表。我剛聽了副委員講,聽起來心很痛。為地方,尤其是幫災民,努力的來協助,這個大家都可以理解。但是我是聽到這個數字,我是嚇了一跳。紅單跟黃單,小虎你剛才說全歸一丁。"},{"start":15462.466,"end":15466.012,"text":"一千多 這個是不是先請 我要先釐清一下這個我只想問這個數字到底對還是不對"},{"start":15473.45,"end":15497.996,"text":"你們給我的跟副總召講的我那數字真的是差距很大光花蓮 花蓮部分一千九百四十九戶紅磚跟紅磚真的是一千多你說多少一千九百多那你們給我們的數字的紅單跟黃單裡面我怎麼數字加一加是一百多呢"},{"start":15499.349,"end":15500.29,"text":"董事長、董事長、董事長"},{"start":15514.329,"end":15531.438,"text":"目前我們根據我們相關紅單黃黃單的資料統計那在花蓮縣的部分我們張貼紅單的部分是九十張張貼黃單的部分是九十二張那不需要張貼危險標誌的是七百六十一戶那已經拆除了有十七戶"},{"start":15532.638,"end":15542.162,"text":"這是目前我們針對花蓮縣的部分那麼全台總共張貼紅單的有110戶那張貼黃單的有207戶不需要張貼的違憲建屋大概有2681戶那已拆除戶19戶以上莊委員請繼續"},{"start":15554.785,"end":15561.876,"text":"專委員請繼續OK 好我們再請副會長我謝謝專委員在關心我說一下內政部這個說法實在是真的要改進我再講一次"},{"start":15572.708,"end":15587.505,"text":"紅單集合住宅十七棟都是十三層以上的是紅單黃單有二十七棟單一住宅紅單有七十五間"},{"start":15589.625,"end":15600.914,"text":"黃單單一住宅有七十九件大樓雖然你們算一張紅單但是它裡面有上百戶所以我再講一次戶數戶數紅單七百九十八戶黃單"},{"start":15611.141,"end":15614.783,"text":"一千一百五十一戶 總共一千九百四十九戶接下來我們請國發會"},{"start":15628.712,"end":15647.212,"text":"彭副主委,請您發言。好,謝謝。謝謝主席,然後各位委員,大家晚安。那因為我只能就,實際上政災發生之後,其實我們在新政府在五二一,五月二十一號已經由院長這邊召開了一個"},{"start":15649.454,"end":15664.884,"text":"專案會議 專案會議也特別有強調就是說會成立一個零四零三的地震專案小組由院長擔任召集人由我們正副院長擔任督導各項復原的重建工作由工程會跨部會的做主責會診國科會 國發會來專責辦理"},{"start":15668.626,"end":15669.686,"text":"三、研 三、研 三、研 三、研"},{"start":15689.651,"end":15710.627,"text":"三個原則來協助花蓮及其他的縣市政府﹐如期如止的、全面有效率的﹐來完成這個災後復原的工作那﹐以上報告謝謝謝謝 彭副主席您現在知道為什麼第一個點名你因為行政院左院長交代由國發會來統籌所以請您第一個報告 請您理解好不好好 謝謝我們現在請經濟部﹐我們何次長 請"},{"start":15716.513,"end":15741.306,"text":"好 謝謝主席還有各位委員那緊救經濟部目前在這個震災之後所提供的一些輔導的部分跟各位委員報告一下那我們的這個輔導措施有包括對一些產業的振興扶老像這個花蓮有實在產業那實在產業我們協助對破碎的食材做清運那以"},{"start":15742.246,"end":15761.38,"text":"這個截至目前為止,到七月三日為止,我們已經協助清運了大概百分之四十二點三,然後總共有兩萬九千六百四十噸的這個食材那另外就是我們也提供低利貸款,那目前已經有乘坐了六點五億元的這個融資的金額"},{"start":15762.521,"end":15784.535,"text":"另外我們還有提供一些水電的一些減免的一些補助措施包括房屋毀損不堪居住的那我們針對這個水電的費用免收月費這個三到八月的這個水電那另外針對食材災損的廠商我們也免收半年的這個"},{"start":15785.456,"end":15807.818,"text":"水電費五到十月份的這個水電的基本水電費那針對這個美倫、和平跟光華三處產業園區進度的廠商我們也提供一個這個公用設施維護費的減半徵收是四月到十二月那以上是經濟部所提供的這個相關的產業輔導跟振興的一個措施"},{"start":15809.58,"end":15825.173,"text":"那另外當然還有一個是商圈啦商圈目前還有跟這個花蓮縣政府在合辦一些聯合行銷還有這個好物的展售會的這些相關的活動那以上謝謝經濟部的報告接下來我們請交通部陳次長謝謝"},{"start":15832.388,"end":15856.087,"text":"主席還有各位我簡單就交通部的立場來做說明那有關這個零四零三震災了以後我們在交通部大概分三個方向來做處理一個是有關公路的搶修跟那個鐵路的一個搶災這些大概都編有相關的預算而且這些預算目前都在執行"},{"start":15856.767,"end":15878.616,"text":"執行中 到目前為止 所有的鐵路是正常的行駛公路除了下清水橋因為要復建到年底的關係所以在白天有三個時段是管制通行其他時間也都是可以不受限制的所以有關蔬果的相關運送大概也不是一個問題"},{"start":15880.057,"end":15890.331,"text":"大家比較關心的是有關光光的部分那光光的部分剛才委員特別有提到相關的住房確實是在四月的時候是非常的嚴峻但是隨著這個時間的經過"},{"start":15895.638,"end":15917.36,"text":"各部會各單位的一個努力稍微可以做說明四月份的時候的住房率大概只有14%在五月份的時候又更低了一點13.59%但是到六月我們已經發現它已經回升到24.17%所以我們相信隨著七月暑假的一個旺季的來臨的時候相關的一個有關觀光署相關有關"},{"start":15919.122,"end":15943.992,"text":"住房的優惠或團體旅遊的優惠在那裡點火的話相信可以有一定的一個注意而且從另外一個方面交通部也行文各部會如果有相關的一個活動希望能夠在花蓮舉行交通部也率先有好幾個活動或者是論壇等等的是在花蓮來辦理所以我們希望透過這樣的方式"},{"start":15945.132,"end":15973.346,"text":"來對於花蓮的一個剛才特別提到的觀光業有所振興所以以上大概是交通部就這個事件或這個條例的一個看法 以上謝謝謝謝陳次長剛才幾位部會的次長都已經做出報告其實地震會影響到非常多的部會包括我們花蓮原住民委員會衛生福利部等等我們先請了幾位次長報告完畢後歡迎各位黨團各位幹部看一看請吳思堯委員請發言"},{"start":15977.128,"end":15998.209,"text":"好 謝謝我想面對這樣子的政災我們的心情都是同樣沉重也都是基於立法委員的職責不管當然副委員是選區立委但是我們身為立法委員都有職責的來全面來協助那今天4月3號到今天剛好是第一百天"},{"start":15999.37,"end":16025.415,"text":"第一百天我覺得剛剛副委員是跟大家再報告一下災害的影響的層面也就是災情有多嚴重譬如說有多少紅單的戶數這些觀光受到的波及這其實我們也都看到了確實是造成很大程度的傷害但是在一個災害歷經了一百天之後我們要思考的是現階段的"},{"start":16026.135,"end":16055.236,"text":"救災（也就是災害協助的實質面（有哪些不足的地方（有哪些應做而未做（或者是應做（但他做了（但是做得不夠到位的地方（應當是在四月三號（到現在第一百天（我們來檢視整個行政部門（從推出零四零三正在復原（重建方案的一百天（到現在（我認為作為立法委員（來檢視也是有其必要的（"},{"start":16055.996,"end":16074.761,"text":"但今天坐在這裏我們要進行的是法案的協商那法案的協商要處理的標的就是副委員領銜的這個零四零三的正在重建條例草案那第一個我要說這個因為委員會是沒有審因為是進付二讀"},{"start":16076.141,"end":16090.303,"text":"所以就可能我們在理解每一個條文裡頭我盡可能去理解它的必須性跟對應於現在行政部門做了什麼然後我要強調有哪些做了但是做得不夠到位我們都可以來檢視"},{"start":16091.994,"end":16113.885,"text":"我看到副董昭發下來給大家參照的資料裡頭第二頁也附了行政院的有關於我們重建方案的幾個PPT幾個簡報的內容也對應於副董昭從第一次媒體揭露第一次提出來的條例的需求金額是150億"},{"start":16115.646,"end":16139.238,"text":"那行政部門投入越來越多．那也想把災情救災做得更好．所以行政部門也不斷地在加碼．也因為不斷地去經過試算．進入災區以後更理解需求在哪裡．所以一直到兩百八十五點五億．但是我知道應當就是三百億的規模．有這個準備．所以副總召後來也在媒體上．我也看到說"},{"start":16140.038,"end":16154.906,"text":"那他提出來的這個重建條例的草案的預算規模也就從原始他設定的一百五十億的需求也要調高到三百億這樣那今天條文裡面呢副總召也針對部分的條文有做出修正動議"},{"start":16156.124,"end":16175.451,"text":"那當然就包括一些匡列的金額的支出那這個匡列的金額的支出是對應於行政部門現在有的重建方案已經執行多少或是編列多少的這個額度副總召再把它放回它原本原始規模是一百五十億的這個條例裡面"},{"start":16177.472,"end":16202.272,"text":"所以,我想我要做這樣子的分析是說﹐我相信副總召也很清楚的看到﹐行政部門的零四零三政災復原重建方案裡頭﹐不管是公共設施搶救重建﹐不管是民防災損安置以及重建﹐乃至於產業振興、企業紓困、急難救助﹐各類的社會福利﹐"},{"start":16203.581,"end":16225.632,"text":"等等的面向．我相信行政部門的作為．副總召作為選區立委．他作為官行．都有回應到他今天提出來的．條例的本文裡頭的修正動議．所以某種程度我覺得是．行政部門你們提出來的需求．而你們做出來的這些協力方案．也應當是符合現在華聯需求的．我要講的是這個"},{"start":16226.949,"end":16255.103,"text":"所以那這樣驗證回來就是已經進行的行政院沒有立法的狀況之下你們已經做的以及副總召現在試圖在已經進行了一百天的災救之後再用一個條例來處理其實本質項目救災需要的內涵範圍協力的對象其實是對得起來的並沒有什麼是遺漏的並沒有什麼是因做而未做的"},{"start":16255.848,"end":16263.053,"text":"但我要強調有沒有做得到位這個絕對是要做得更好對於災區的重建這是我們難以推諉的責任"},{"start":16264.207,"end":16291.1,"text":"所以說我認為已經行政部門從優、從素、從簡各個方面下去做對於災區的實際的實質的協助這個是最重要的而且已經歷經了一百天那今天如果要再用一個立法的方式那我必須站在立法委員的角度再回到立法的一些經驗上來做探討也跟韓院長做報告"},{"start":16292.762,"end":16314.224,"text":"九二一是發生在八十八年九月二十一號那那個時候台灣並沒有一個災救的體系也沒有相關的法規所以李登輝前總統頒布了緊急命令我那時候在立法院我就是幕僚我可能就是坐在後面這一排的那個國會助理所以我就馬上投入了災害防救法的整個立法"},{"start":16315.117,"end":16329.601,"text":"那﹐那個時候還沒有災害防修法﹐對不起我先更正﹐發生了災害之後﹐因為沒有相關的法規﹐頒布了總統的緊急命令之後﹐國家開始思考﹐我們需要做九二一震災的重建條例﹐用一個條例﹐來滿足﹐"},{"start":16332.382,"end":16354.25,"text":"緊急命令的過渡．未來用一個立法的方式．所以是95年2月5號．立法院通過了921重建條例．而之後國家各部門都思考．我們需要一個更全方位的災害防救法．那個時候我是國會幕僚．我就投入了那個時候的立法．所以災害防救法在80．我好像日子講錯了．95．"},{"start":16356.104,"end":16370.14,"text":"沒有沒有89年6月對6月災害防救法就完成了所以在災害防救法之後一體適用在天然災害當然災害防救法未來後來也擴充了很多不同的新興的這個災害項目這樣"},{"start":16373.413,"end":16400.044,"text":"所以在防救法之後﹐我們就沒有針對任何的地震類的災害﹐來進行單一的立法﹐特別的立法但是唯一一個﹐有針對特別的天然災害﹐在特別立法的只有一個﹐就是莫拉克風災所以莫拉克風災﹐是現在副總召援引在您的立法裡面﹐很多參照的條文﹐您都援引了莫拉克風災的這個立法"},{"start":16400.885,"end":16425.127,"text":"那我要說的是﹐也許大家會想﹐既然有災害防救法﹐之後又有莫拉克風災特別條例﹐所以﹐不代表說﹐有了災害防救法﹐其他的﹐天然災害就不可以再有﹐任何的立法﹐可能大家會這樣覺得﹐可是我要告訴大家﹐正因為﹐莫拉克風災的條例﹐特別條例﹐訂定之後﹐災害防救法再一次的﹐"},{"start":16425.947,"end":16452.128,"text":"進行更大的翻修翻修的完成是在111年5月24號全文的修正所以我們的災害防救法從早期因應921地震然後到有莫拉克風災之後然後它又更精進的大修然後我們又增加了很多新的項目的災害包括我自己提了火山災害因為我是大屯火山區的立委這樣"},{"start":16453.021,"end":16476.222,"text":"所以災害防救法它基本上已經是一個不斷擴充、不斷地upgrade、不斷地去因應各種救災的能量讓我們的臺灣的救災體系可以用國家隊來投入所以在一百一十一年全文翻修的災害防救法之後就再也沒有任何一個天然災害再需要特別立法"},{"start":16478.038,"end":16495.88,"text":"很清楚的就如同臺南的0206大地震0206大地震也是大家都印象深刻那個時候為什麼沒有也來搞一個特別立法呢因為災害防救法經過檢視它已經足以適用了"},{"start":16496.744,"end":16523.945,"text":"所以我希望說在一個國家的救災體系都相當完備的災害防救法的機制之下我們實在不宜再針對地震這一類我們已經因應好幾次的這個國家準備跟救災的作為再去做一個特別的單一的立法所以就這個部分我一定要說否則以後可能任何一個"},{"start":16525.529,"end":16555.133,"text":"天然災害都再來一個特別的立法．然後它還有其他的．更優於災害防救法的做法．我覺得這個是我們要檢視的．所以我個人認為災害防救法是．可以來因應應付這一類的．尤其是震災．我們就處於地震相對嚴重的．是臺灣最重大的天然災害的類別．災害類型那我希望回到災害防救法的體系．而事實上災害防救法的體系．現在已經用在零四零三．"},{"start":16555.822,"end":16570.127,"text":"行政院的災害重建方案裡頭都經由這個法律的授權所以你們才很周全地提出我們可以做什麼那我也看了你們的內容其實很多更是優於災害防救法的規範"},{"start":16572.757,"end":16601.675,"text":"這是不容抹滅的所以回到實質跟法律的程序我都做出了一些分享跟論述那我們可以回來看有哪些選區關心的立委認為說災害協助救災的部分還沒有做到的地方那好 立法院能夠督促行政院繼續把它做好但他不是透過一個災害發生了一百天之後再回頭來立一個法"},{"start":16603.022,"end":16621.281,"text":"這個東西我覺得我們的目標都是讓救災做到更好但是這個立法的必要性我覺得大有傷絕謝謝吳思堯委員的發言接下來我們請柯總召你不講兩句我都覺得怪怪的因為思堯講得很清楚"},{"start":16622.523,"end":16648.581,"text":"那現在已經都是用三項法了而且二零二都已經在立了那九二一的時候有特別小議是沒有錯啦那默克爾以後大概沒有了那我們今天要談的就是說實際上就是說我們這些副總召我們都很關心你也應該對於選舉多爭取大家都願意幫忙"},{"start":16649.488,"end":16669.855,"text":"因為我們差一點在什麼地方大家來對清楚啦其實講坦白政府所能夠用的錢都下去了你本來寫一百五嘛那現在看政府弄到二百五你就二百五事實上政府現在可能快到三百了所以這個不是就是說但K點都會走給你都沒有錯"},{"start":16671.596,"end":16686.358,"text":"但是呢 這裏面你要堅持用條例的話 這體育上也有問題啦第二個呢 你的條例裏面所要的東西 是不是有些部份可能相當於刑事部份談好"},{"start":16688.825,"end":16702.77,"text":"這裏面真點大概就是說防止全部倒 我要全部改新的給他這個部分可能在所有過去我們所發生的災害防救那個災害所沒有的"},{"start":16703.889,"end":16725.46,"text":"造成以後建商隨便蓋一蓋,反正倒了都不會賠啊。這個東西,而且我們所謂災防舊,舊的所思舊己不是法,這個觀念要清楚。不管過去台南發生的時候,很多善款,我相信那邊也有很多善款進來,如果一起統合來應用。"},{"start":16728.615,"end":16755.706,"text":"副總召的意思應該是 現在的爭點應該只有在這個地方吧還有什麼爭點我們大家講清楚 才能夠走得下去錢已經超過二百五了這個東西就是政府能夠幫 一定會幫但是在體力上能夠做得到的部分來談 才有交集最後只剩下這一點而已吧好 謝謝柯建民總召 接下來請副困境總召再一次發言"},{"start":16756.477,"end":16781.75,"text":"我要特別謝謝大家都很關心但是要務實才能解決災民的問題今天有沒有條例條例當然可以不要你有確實的拯救災民有確實有幫助到災民那我們當然不會在這裡還要推什麼條例今天就是確實沒有幫到災民力道也不夠現在問題就很嚴重"},{"start":16786.337,"end":16815.564,"text":"所以我們才要推這個條例關鍵就在這裡 而且我要特別強調剛剛為什麼交通部講到六月以後就停住了到六月主要產業才24%的住房 以前是100%然後接著下來我們到現在為止這份待會會發給大家一起看"},{"start":16818.332,"end":16847.433,"text":"總共蘇花公路、台九線、台八線從六月二十號到七月初斷路一、二、三、四、五、六六次斷路都是全國性的新聞六次又攤方都是攤方六次再加上兩次鐵路又出軌又加上鐵路"},{"start":16848.444,"end":16870.866,"text":"因為土石流又停止 這些東西造成 包括鐵路出軌造成現在沒有人敢來了 又往下掉 連鐵路都會出軌不管過程 天災有造成 然後人禍也有結果把鐵路出軌 還好我這邊講一下"},{"start":16874.161,"end":16902.046,"text":"又出軌了 差一點像2021.04.02一樣那個出軌還好是這個司機命大他遠遠就看到就趕快踩了趕快踩煞車不然的話到那個地方撞上土石流又出去撞到隧道又不曉得要幾十個人走掉所以當然那個有很多鐵路局也出了鐵路局內部管理是一塌糊塗"},{"start":16904.158,"end":16931.665,"text":"那個事情已經發生了一二十分鐘 監看都看到了 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謝謝"},{"start":17240.578,"end":17240.818,"text":"主席"},{"start":17265.908,"end":17292.043,"text":"政府花了超過二百五,你這個也是二百五但是我是覺得很奇怪,你是說一直在comment說政府完全沒有幫他忙到底是什麼原因,錢跑到哪裡,不可能蒸發掉嘛,政府的錢都下去了嘛那第一個就是說我不是說都沒有幫助,是力道不夠你應該第一句話就講說我把它結起來嘛我剛剛講力道不夠力道不夠也沒有關係"},{"start":17299.765,"end":17319.909,"text":"發生地震以後,我想以花園縣政府的能量,要去面對這個問題,這個整個地震出來了,一定是能力不足,所有全部從中央下去,我相信吳京樂署長應該說明得很清楚,這個中央團隊不可能各部位都下去,這個你不可以否認啊。"},{"start":17321.845,"end":17337.103,"text":"這裏面各部會寫得很細真的都發下去了那到底為什麼你還覺得不夠到位那是你現在講的一個重點你要弄一個條例來當後盾政府本來就有方案都可以做一定做下去"},{"start":17338.021,"end":17366.069,"text":"你要用條例來當後盾你要用條例來當後盾的話那條例都還沒通過我們早就全部做下去啦不需要用條例來當後盾所以你所要用的條例當後盾就是說不可以說你叫你用條例去寫叫政府硬要幹啊政府也不敢這樣做比如說你看黃池潛島你現在全部給平給我沒有人這樣子啊不是所以說我們現在要把"},{"start":17368.677,"end":17371.304,"text":"這不是說不能談 可以談這力道可以到哪裡嘛"},{"start":17373.703,"end":17399.021,"text":"你那幾個問題要比較計較來談,否則這樣會散發出來,然後又跟一樣對阿你講不好,我坦白跟你講,吳世耀委員剛才說他當助理的時候,那時候你寫過嗎?兩千年的時候,新南京議務次長馬思也是我的助理他幫我寫一個非常完整的災安法,說我們在辦公室做災安法兩次都有提案"},{"start":17401.656,"end":17428.572,"text":"這樣好不好各位委員同仁我想那個因為我們今天還有好多法律案那這個案子我們休息一下大家開始討論討論之後我要再宣布我們今天稍微協商的結論我們先休息三分鐘大家討論一下因為現在雙方意見完全不一致那村城委員有沒有寶貴的意見臺灣民眾黨還沒有發言不發言好我們休息三到五分鐘有什麼意見也可以跟行政部門請教好不好謝謝五分鐘之後我們來宣讀協商結果"},{"start":17591.887,"end":17615.669,"text":"謝謝各位黨團幹部也謝謝各位列席的閣員跟官員大家非常的辛苦再次感謝那我來宣告一下我們現在黨團幹部對於本案0403政災重建條例各黨團顯然無法達成共識我們就送院會處理沒有沒有沒有 院長我可以再發言一下嗎"},{"start":17617.978,"end":17631.527,"text":"如果說要講院長現在才是就要送院會處理的意思是說0403由傅坤祺委員所提的政災重建條例好對不起國民黨團好國民黨團版OK國民黨團版0403的災後重建條例它是進覆二讀的委員會沒有討論"},{"start":17641.101,"end":17641.341,"text":"二、研商有關"},{"start":17661.414,"end":17680.465,"text":"一個進付二讀的條例他要用國庫現在是兩百八十五億剛剛副委員說可能五百億也都不夠如果就我都不要講內容我就說這個程序院長你想看看一個要國庫支出三、五百億的條例一個條文都沒有run過"},{"start":17683.326,"end":17699.298,"text":"好 不管 不管是但是您剛剛您這裡也說您會在行政院兩百八十五億的規模裡面好 那我們就二八五嘛好 我們就說院長您看看在您手上五十分鐘的時間對於這個條例我們剛剛是在大體討論喔"},{"start":17701.636,"end":17719.81,"text":"然後沒有進入實質然後您的裁示那就是可能在爭議上就是可能爭點蠻多的然後就進送院會來處理然後就用表決去處理說一個重建條例然後討論五十分鐘進付二讀這樣不好啦"},{"start":17720.875,"end":17749.452,"text":"這樣真的不好那如果要實質我們也是可以討論一下條文啊合理不合理是要經過檢視啊好 謝謝吳世耀委也謝謝當然柯總召讓我先講一下但是我要跟各位黨團幹部特別報告一下因為我們現在下面還有很多案子包括工糧收購包括刑事訴訟法包括科技偵查法包括刑事訴訟法各所有相關法案的協商還有一個辦法當然我們可以把它放在後面我們先討論其他的案子"},{"start":17749.952,"end":17776.482,"text":"那在最後快節奏我們再來回到這個案也是一個方式但是我們如果一直卡在這裡逐條下去我們後面所有的法律案顯然今天時間是不夠的那我要特別呼籲大家一下好請柯總召你現在這樣講還比較有道理啊剛才六四說好那就再去表決因為剛才已經把整頂整理出來嘛同樣花285政府花300億啊你一直說做得不好不夠到底哪一個地方有差異"},{"start":17778.943,"end":17786.13,"text":"政府的所有的邏輯很清楚,各部位都下去嘛,所以應該針對你的針點在哪裡,那幾個出來,針對那個來協商就夠了,這才能夠"},{"start":17793.314,"end":17820.643,"text":"我沒有預設立場我完全尊重各黨團只是我是希望這個案之後還有很多法律案如果我們卡在這裡的話其他法案就全面沒有辦法討論了我只是建議至於你們決定怎麼樣我完全尊重請傅坤祺總召發言我要特別強調一下台南的重建所有的老百姓地震後統統重建完成災民"},{"start":17823.434,"end":17844.382,"text":"兩百八十五條公共建設都在裡面我要把它拉回來我們這個案子就是99.21而且都是政府匡列在兩個項目一個項目叫做我再念一次他們聽不懂我再念一次現在這個匡列現在這個條例就是99.21沒有什麼五百億、三百億再強調一下"},{"start":17853.601,"end":17864.548,"text":"針對中央已核定的民防災損安置及重建五十八點四億元"},{"start":17866.01,"end":17886.231,"text":"及產業振興四十點八億元這是中央匡列的兩大項目總共九十九點二億我剛唸過一次我再唸一次所以這個條例現在就是九十九點二億它主要的目的就是讓這些烏島的災民"},{"start":17889.949,"end":17911.397,"text":"能夠順利的把它重建完成那振興的部分40.81振興現在完全沒有感覺到有怎麼樣的力道所以這個部分應該是跟整個受災的政府應該行政院要具體的作為跟地方要去談要怎麼樣這個產業才能夠帶動起來"},{"start":17915.755,"end":17940.788,"text":"這都是跟地方去談那個四十點八一沒有要他們一定要怎麼做但是希望他們跟地方政府合起來去把產業振興起來這是行政院的項目就是振興產業那你到底做到振興沒有數字已經在講話了嘛就是沒有嘛那沒有要怎麼做是不是要跟地方政府有一個充分的一個溝通來做"},{"start":17942.156,"end":17963.823,"text":"另外就是58.4億這個行政院匡列的給災民的部分要重建 災民重建的部分這個民宅災損的部分要重建現在其實我們的真點就只有這一項柯總召一句話 他就說"},{"start":17968.581,"end":17989.57,"text":"政府有在做只是他的力道不夠我再說一次不是這樣因為過去所以我特別你讓我一次講完好不好你讓我一次講完好不好因為你已經講到重點嘛講到重點所以你的重點這樣才對焦嘛你說你就是說"},{"start":17993.291,"end":18015.998,"text":"政府裡面有因為五十八點四嘛還是四點八嘛四點八是產業振興嘛另外是民防災害損失的統計嘛齁這兩條加起來總共九十九點二億嘛這兩個加起來總共九十九點二億你全部不要做其他你只要來儲得起起出來這樣而已嘛就這個意思嘛對不對"},{"start":18018.681,"end":18023.944,"text":"五十八點四億五十八點四億是烏島的部分四十點八億是產業振興他錢沒有花完嘛他現在正在進行但是是不是這樣我要特別強調齁"},{"start":18047.421,"end":18052.115,"text":"他們兩樣都在做 但是力量不足不足的話 他錢都沒有用完"},{"start":18054.136,"end":18065.082,"text":"現在就是說我們希望 也不是新的啦 這樣一定是不是285了啊接下來 沒關係 大家來我來釐清一下啦我來釐清一下啦 副委員 現在是大家都要跟他互相照顧嘛就是說法連那個大家互相照顧的合理啦 現在就是說"},{"start":18084.521,"end":18101.437,"text":"兩百 假設三百好啦 我其實政府現在把它落三八下去啦你現在意思就是說 不到位嘛 我一直聽到你講不到位那不到位 也可以 也可以拿出來講第一個就是說 我要回復到我還沒有地震以前"},{"start":18102.498,"end":18102.818,"text":"國民黨黨團提議． 三、研"},{"start":18118.488,"end":18131.72,"text":"你想要它政府再花什麼下去 這第一個那這個就是產業振興的問題啦那第二個我覺得你好 我好像又聽出你又欲言又止又不好 意思明講 你就不用說你就說 我的處終到 到阿嗎"},{"start":18136.428,"end":18147.655,"text":"房子倒啦 有可能是新的房子倒啦 也有可能舊的房子倒啦你就講出你的爭議 這樣才有辦法來聚焦啦你的意思是說 我就不管你什麼新廚倒 還是你古廚倒你政府你來企劃我 這也可以別人說 再來講你也可以講出來說 你給我企劃好 我不管來的古廚大家再來講說 那可能就是我政府該賠你多少錢 才算到位"},{"start":18164.974,"end":18166.815,"text":"其實我條文都看過了其實我就舉兩個條文應當是這個條例的關鍵條文就是第七條跟第九條"},{"start":18192.12,"end":18216.994,"text":"剛剛副總長您說現在在國民黨版的這個條例裡頭有明顯的預算額度是99億2000萬沒錯這是唯一出現在這裡面有具體數字的但是您的第七條第一項的第一款您的說法是對不起是國民黨版的說法是各機關應於總預算範圍內且不低於新台幣99億2000萬元"},{"start":18220.978,"end":18225.772,"text":"點點點點去做哪些事這個是地板 不是天花板"},{"start":18227.304,"end":18247.94,"text":"所以說這個條例本身﹐包括後面有很多是﹐可能是貸款的支出﹐可能是保險的支出﹐可能是就學的支出﹐可能是醫療的協助的支出﹐還有很大一項就是對於重建的這個支出﹐是沒有列在這裡面﹐它是額外要花的﹐是在你其他的條文裡面﹐沒有算在這個裡面﹐您的這個是不低於99.2﹐換言之﹐它確實會到300億﹐"},{"start":18252.043,"end":18270.519,"text":"或者有可能到﹐可能您剛剛說的﹐可能更高的金額﹐達到您覺得要到位的那個標準﹐所以舊條文﹐我是看這個國民黨版的條文﹐具體說是不低於新台幣九十九億兩千萬元﹐然後本與哪些預算項目來支出﹐這是第一個關鍵條文﹐第二個關鍵條文在第九條﹐"},{"start":18273.602,"end":18301,"text":"剛剛瑞雄委員在說那副總商你就明講嘛要做什麼你覺得要為災區的人民再多爭取什麼就明講嘛其實條文就寫在這裡啊瑞雄你可以看一下條文就寫得很清楚第九條說住戶房屋因地震毀損不堪居住經認定為黃單紅單之房屋其拆除去化整建重建之費用由中央政府全額負擔"},{"start":18303.642,"end":18313.674,"text":"這個沒有記在剛剛99.2億裡面這就是一個關鍵條文是extra而且是從以前到現在沒有發生過台灣任何的"},{"start":18314.793,"end":18332.786,"text":"的災害．然後要求政府．不管是紅單、黃單．的拆除、去化、整建、重建．由中央政府全額負擔．不管它是新的房子、是舊的房子．或者是不是過去就有一些建商．是不良建商蓋的不好的房子．"},{"start":18334.672,"end":18360.273,"text":"這條才是一個無限膨脹的預算可能的來源我們就必須看它合理或不合理我們回到救災的精神重建的費用的支出對於災民的補貼應當是用於符合公共利益有一個合理的範圍而不是完全去填補政災產生的人民的每一項的財產損失沒有辦法這樣"},{"start":18364.471,"end":18375.046,"text":"所以說現在的災害防救法也不會有任何一個條文說只要哪個地震發生了然後政府而且是中央政府喔中央政府全額買單"},{"start":18377.47,"end":18401.302,"text":"這個下去大家想看看．政府有可能．或者是未來某一個裁縫來了．家裡有因為怎麼樣漏水的．全部由中央政府全額來替你整建．這幾乎做不到了．所以我說第七條跟第九條．是關鍵的條文．而它就相當的．不合理．所以我是真的很具體的建議．"},{"start":18402.868,"end":18423.401,"text":"國民黨團還有副委員認為花蓮在哪些重建的過程政府做得不夠到位哪些災民的需求還沒有被政府關照到其實我們立法委員可以行使辭選的方式我們也可以召開你要在院會用特別的專案報告都可以或是委員會的專案報告也安排過"},{"start":18424.582,"end":18444.748,"text":"都可以一個災害經過一百天的重建．有哪些確實沒有做好．或者是應當做現階段的檢討．先來看現在重建一百天的檢視．這是立法委員的職權．可以透過排案的方式．各級部會來做報告．哪些真的配合不夠的．就來處理．哪些預算還不足的．大家一起來爭取．"},{"start":18446.388,"end":18473.823,"text":"那更何況其實這一次中央政府是快﹐很快﹐很快速的進到災區﹐而且行政院成立了花蓮重建專案辦公室這是中央直接在那裡設一個辦公室就進來協助所有災區的需要我相信跟花蓮縣政府也一定有很多很綿密的合作所以如果說﹐我還是再次在說 院長我現在發言到現在是8點53分"},{"start":18476.311,"end":18488.062,"text":"一個條例 地板的金額是99.2億起跳我們只討論了一個小時 它是近乎二讀就要用會處理 我是覺得要深思"},{"start":18489.912,"end":18515.575,"text":"那現在顯然各政黨團都沒有辦法答案那個院長我再做一次完整的報告因為我每次講很奇怪我都要重複重複重複我再講一次我提醒一下我這次副坤崎總召這麼多年從來沒看他戴太陽眼鏡他非常重視這個案子我覺得一定要把這個事情扭曲到這樣那我就特別強調"},{"start":18517.421,"end":18545.312,"text":"九十九年二一我們可以把它寫成上限沒有關係不要把這個東西故意無限放大這第一個上限是這個沒有關係我要特別講第九條你們要選縣市長的要聽好地方總預算的百分之一叫做災害準備金"},{"start":18546.823,"end":18559.81,"text":"中央的行政院也是有百分之一的總預算的災害準備金地方發生天然災害的時候百分之一的錢用完之後就由中央來支應"},{"start":18563.398,"end":18588.844,"text":"因為沒有當過縣長 不知道我要講給他們聽不是說這個東西很嚴重事實上這個拆除、去化、這些東西運輸等等剛剛他們講那個都是在百分之一用完之後就是中央這邊來指引我先告訴你是這樣 再過來這個針點只有一樣就是剛剛柯總召講的說政府要不要完全蓋給你"},{"start":18590.39,"end":18616.651,"text":"我覺得我剛剛從剛剛到現在都說可以談嘛但是現在的救濟的力道就是不夠嘛對不對你現在說十二萬一坪然後一戶人最多三十坪他連貸款都沒有辦法還所以說這個部分可以救助到"},{"start":18617.642,"end":18643.838,"text":"大家講嘛 不要百分之百 沒有問題啊條例就是要談嘛 對不對但是大家同理心來看這個事情嘛同理心嘛過去衛福部只要出來成立專案專案的錢就是撥到地方政府去嘛因為一線 因為大家捐錢就是要救災民嘛不是救政府的差額嘛"},{"start":18645.128,"end":18652.391,"text":"衛務部這一次是把專案的錢撥到其他的部會去了其他部會本來就有錢嘛編預算就有啦 它不是編285嗎它把這些錢弄到各部會去了我覺得啊 因為過去的實際操作就是這個地方我們2018年0202大地震也是撥到地方政府來"},{"start":18672.818,"end":18692.116,"text":"為何不拿呢?他就不知道地方所以那個錢就是來幫災民我們知道四棟大樓全部都蓋好了就是這樣那這一次如果說你們覺得十二萬一坪十二萬一坪然後只能三十坪這些人連他的房貸都沒有辦法繳因為他整個貸款"},{"start":18697.15,"end":18708.219,"text":"現在是政府把他擋住說他他現在一年內可以不用去還這個本金本來他現在加債務都破產嘛"},{"start":18713.15,"end":18733.872,"text":"不是啊 你說 對不對 建民啊 也說嘛 吳斯拉有說不可以嘛 他們兩位都說不可以 所以我說可以談嘛那你百分比願意到多少嘛 我就硬說這樣嘛 對不對寫是這樣嘛 但是不是要協商嗎 大家就來協商嘛"},{"start":18735.904,"end":18754.06,"text":"因為我們現在為了草原協商有效,我不得不處置好不好不是不得不處置快要接近了嘛談不來再講嘛你的意思說講明了嘛,就是前倒要前賠嘛,紅黨紅黨前賠嘛"},{"start":18757.148,"end":18779.546,"text":"那可以不可以這樣 讓新聞部門來解釋 國際可以不可以這樣 沒有人這樣搞過嘛然後你這個預算呢 預算框在99.299.2吧有講清楚是 框在這裡面嘛 五十八億五十八億你看第七條再修正版本嘛"},{"start":18780.939,"end":18792.643,"text":"不低於九十九點二嗎?對啊就框九十九點二嘛,你剛才一開始這樣講嘛我們就講框十,框十嘛沒關係,再來嘛再來我這樣看,你變成不低於嘛"},{"start":18798.985,"end":18804.692,"text":"當然不是要講說會有膨脹,你說沒有沒有就是這樣,拉回來就是這樣嘛,我們說的明嘛,我們知道他是出於事情,排除預算法嘛,還有有用的問題嘛,是不是這樣?"},{"start":18817.33,"end":18820.632,"text":"行政文法同意的話就比較不會違憲"},{"start":18842.842,"end":18870.653,"text":"那現在就是說 如果說民進黨又認為說這是違憲 我也沒有話講沒有啦 阿你不要 阿你不要主流阿你不要提出整個命運阿 院長 院長不要這樣 國土署說什麼啊我就是要找處長 院長可以一直在講話兩位總召 讓我先宣布一下 讓國土署署長我知道 我把他這樣講好所以 阿現在開啟要怎麼辦這不是有酒店 那是新的集呢 阿我們在產業發展開啟了以後"},{"start":18872.919,"end":18885.374,"text":"跟各位列席委員報告一下我們現在報告的是內政部國土署吳署長歡迎您請剛剛幾位委員所問的那個我大概把那個之前的"},{"start":18886.325,"end":18904.74,"text":"台南0206也講一下我當時是負責重建的獨發局長那第一個在台南0206所收的42億善款第一個我們沒有全部用完因為當時每一項都要經過政宅委員會審核那個補助項目那所以當時的這一個"},{"start":18905.661,"end":18932.626,"text":"我們針對這一個所有的大樓重建大概都有訂一個上限也就是說我們一樣是以當時的這個地方的重建價格徵收的重建價格按照樓層數它有不同的價格去訂那也一樣訂上限因為我們當地也有人一人擁有多戶那所以就會用總坪數作為上限以免買越多戶的人領越多那這樣其實對這一個"},{"start":18935.197,"end":18962.008,"text":"以正宅的公益性來講 其實比較不吻合那所以才會訂上限那這一次在花蓮的這一個部分呢我們也援引同樣的一個做法一樣以花蓮地區所在的這個徵收的這個重建價格來做一個上限值的一個規定那也一樣訂定一個上限的一個評數這也是參考這些大樓它的一個平均的一個評數做這樣的一個概念的一個設計"},{"start":18963.152,"end":18987.013,"text":"所以這第一個標準都一致那因為第二個就是說因為這裡面所用的很多都是政宅的善款也就是民間捐助的我們必須要考慮社會的觀感跟社會的公義性那所以在這個部分的確在我們都必須要訂定一個上限而不是全部去談這樣的一個部分所以我先把過去的經驗是做這樣的一個報告第二個就是說"},{"start":18988.154,"end":19016.275,"text":"對於這個受災戶的這個貸款這部分我們之前大概也有做一個調查那也大概初步了解他們的確還有舊貸跟新貸那因為過去在九二一跟莫納克來講他的做法並不一致那所以這個部分當然是最後在整合的時候如果最後還有舊貸新貸的話那我們後面會重建的時候會再去委員會再提相關的一個整合辦法到時候或許需要金管會"},{"start":19017.235,"end":19044.54,"text":"的一個協助在銀行端去做一個做一個整合的協助我想這是第二個第三個就是所謂的重建的過程當中其實因為在花蓮地區這裡有都援引的都更跟危老那都更它是有容積獎勵的也就是說它未來的興建它可以平速可以變多這個就是變多的時候以受災戶來講它這是未來可以出售的也就是經過出售以後它所得獲得的一些金額"},{"start":19045.407,"end":19045.627,"text":"二、研商有關"},{"start":19063.388,"end":19089.048,"text":"而外的一個收入來降低他的負擔我這樣就要讓報告 吳署長現在可能副總召跟各位有一個心中的疑點就是說我們0206的上限是多少現在花蓮0403的上限是多少這一點可能麻煩 其實跟委員報告上限值都一樣對就是 12萬30坪因為台南的平均坪數比較大我們當然是用他的平均坪數"},{"start":19089.881,"end":19093.541,"text":"所以是用平均評數去算 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不然我們現在已經差不多了已經差不多 好不好你不需要注意聽一下 差不多要差不多你要賺掉以後再重啟獨大格 何去困難呢那個"},{"start":19293.342,"end":19300.33,"text":"我們現在休息五分鐘 請各位黨員大家碰一下 好不好 謝謝五分鐘之後我要開始處理了 好 謝謝辛苦各位官員"},{"start":19312.369,"end":19319.433,"text":"二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二、研二"},{"start":19340.745,"end":19350.587,"text":"這我懂這陳老闆今天沒有用你不立法那這當然就受不了那你要立法那這先談這個老闆今天沒有用你為什麼還沒"},{"start":19371.021,"end":19371.241,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":19394.09,"end":19395.652,"text":"現在在喝行嗎?"},{"start":19420.652,"end":19421.713,"text":"民進黨團提議． 三、研"},{"start":19438.19,"end":19439.09,"text":"國民黨黨團提議． 三、研"},{"start":19467.777,"end":19468.217,"text":"國民黨黨團提議． 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然後來漲的那13年前漲了3塊錢可是呢"},{"start":20584.116,"end":20592.46,"text":"十三年間基本工資從17880漲到27470工資漲幅高達53.64%央苗由每盤28元上漲到40元上漲了43%物價指數上漲超過15%其他包括農藥包括肥料上漲近25%農民的耕作成本是不斷的增加那"},{"start":20614.209,"end":20638.45,"text":"當然我剛剛看到了這個農業部給的就是陳部長給出的這個建議我必須講幾句話一、就是對於提高公糧收購價格的影響陳俊濟部長的說法他也是自相矛盾他過去還沒有擔任主委的時候他說過公糧收購價格與契作價格是連動的"},{"start":20641.112,"end":20667.13,"text":"公糧價格提高．契作價格也會提高．這就代表著會照顧到農民民營糧商收購的價格．自然必須要提高那以他這樣子的說法．最後受益的．就是最基層的農民但現在他當了主委之後．他卻告訴我們說提高公糧收購價格．會造成糧價的崩跌．反而會提高這個．"},{"start":20670.283,"end":20696.132,"text":"所以反而去反對提高收購的價格這到底是為了保護農民還是在保護糧商這讓我不禁的質疑尤其呢我知道說包括那個莊惠琼委員她在屏東那邊也種很多稻米啊我相信她也很理解說農民的辛苦那第二點呢公糧收購價格它不是毫無限制的收購"},{"start":20696.992,"end":20702.917,"text":"因為公糧收購分為計劃收購、輔導收購、餘糧收購每一種收購方式都有其限制的量與價格計劃收購價格最高只佔總收購量的三分之一輔導價格減三塊餘糧收購又再減二至三元所以這不是一個毫無節制的收購"},{"start":20723.052,"end":20745.798,"text":"更重要的是因為是有計劃性的更不可能也不應該發生增加百億元經費的這個狀況如果以去年收購二十九點一萬噸的量來算的話提高八塊增加的多少錢大家知道嗎二十三億"},{"start":20748.24,"end":20752.69,"text":"等於跟農業部講的百億是差了將近五倍啊"},{"start":20753.803,"end":20782.198,"text":"就算是2012年那一年收購量比較高那一年是45.6萬噸如果以那一年來算是增加36億那這些錢其實是為了照顧最基層的農民因為會繳交供糧的農民他們都是沒有能力轉型的弱勢農民部長要鼓勵去企作、去做品牌、經營市場"},{"start":20783.879,"end":20807.535,"text":"這些都是好事本席也非常的贊成但是這些最基層的農民他只仰賴保駕收購當作是他生活的底線我們今天就是在這裡為這些最辛苦的農民發聲那第三點呢對於農業部剛剛提出的這一本裡面講的"},{"start":20809.329,"end":20832.755,"text":"最後一頁就是最後幾頁在講什麼一級二轉三加三這名字很好聽取得還押韻但是我不是不贊成啊我們也贊成啊但是一級鼓勵棄做二轉鼓勵轉做和做這些都不是新的政策這都行之有年多久了你們自己說"},{"start":20834.694,"end":20846.609,"text":"這些難道是新的嗎這是長期以來農業部就在推行的目標你不能加上一個新的包裝新的名詞就告訴我們說你要用這個取代公糧收購價格提高這就是舊新的瓶子裝舊的酒"},{"start":20853.108,"end":20868.519,"text":"農業部的功能難道只是在做換新的形容詞嗎換新的形容詞來包裝說你們現在在做的事情而沒有提出真正能夠取代公糧收購價格提高的辦法說實在我"},{"start":20869.46,"end":20890.865,"text":"也曾經跟陳部長說過說假設你真的有辦法可以取代公糧收購那本席也一定會支持因為我也希望我的農民我的這些鄉親不是生活在最底線你知道嗎我也希望他們可以賺錢啊他們務農如果可以賺大錢的話為什麼他們必須要仰賴這個公糧收購價格的補助"},{"start":20898.649,"end":20903.192,"text":"我們為什麼推行你們說的這個什麼一極二轉、三加三這麼多年還是有很多慣性的農民種水稻有一個原因是因為我們現在務農的年齡平均是65歲這些年老弱勢的農民他們幾十年來可能就只有種植水稻的經驗與技術你要他們轉形同逼他們老年轉業他要會種其他的呀"},{"start":20930.29,"end":20950.726,"text":"你若要輔導他種其他的 你誘因也要夠啊所以提高公糧收購價格的補助 是在照顧這樣的老農民另外一個原因是 獎勵轉作的誘因不足如果這個階段要鼓勵轉作 應該是提高轉作補助而不是去壓下"},{"start":20951.286,"end":20964.881,"text":"十三年來未調整的公糧收購價格﹐因為在動漲公糧價格收購的同時﹐也可能壓低了糧商收購的價格﹐這對整體的農民是不利的"},{"start":20971.005,"end":20991.167,"text":"院長不好意思 我暫時講到這裡 讓莊瑞雄委員先講莊瑞雄委員是要不要請提案的另外一個政黨先講完我先講一下莊瑞雄委員請發言這個張委員這個講法我是感同身受 因為我來自農業縣可是我必須要講出來就是說 這個如果真的可以這樣提的話"},{"start":20992.793,"end":21018.265,"text":"我經歷過七個行政院長 我早就提了 因為我也擔心這個你像譬如說 你公糧 我們藻礁公糧其實也不是百分之百百分之百藻礁公糧才要三十趴嘛 三十趴我現在酒爐鄉啊 我們碰到那個檸檬價格非常低啊我跟部長很熟啊 我也不敢跟他說 阿婆你種得那麼差 我也不敢這樣說 我也不敢這樣說"},{"start":21020.186,"end":21038.969,"text":"所以我就一直在想說你這個提高價格的話確實也會有你這個才佔百分之三十趴提高收購價格你對整個稻米的種植我很擔心會有加重它的一個誘因"},{"start":21040.531,"end":21048.857,"text":"這個也必須要去考慮到那就變成說你對民糧的部分你現在講的是公糧民糧那個價格會下跌"},{"start":21054.537,"end":21069.665,"text":"沒關係我們這個觀念我們可以來討論實際上真的你把公糧這樣拉高你那個民糧真的會下跌我再講一次這個如果真的可以通我每一年我都敢提啦我提一定對我農業縣我一定有加分然後我不提的我哪有那麼笨"},{"start":21070.714,"end":21083.091,"text":"我真的就是擔心 因為我真的農家子弟啊 問到的我都講啊我也不跟你講說水資源的問題 種水稻當然就是水資源啊本來就是農作 本來就是優先啊 我就不談這個會不會跟工業競爭的問題 我就不談這些了那你現在就是說"},{"start":21088.378,"end":21108.32,"text":"產量確實也真的是過剩 產量過剩的話 補充單可以說你只要產量過剩差不多就多了那變成說 已經產量過剩了 我現在這個供糧的部分把它拉高那又像我剛提到的 那另外七十趴的民糧 它又下跌"},{"start":21110.643,"end":21123.771,"text":"所以我不敢提的原因在這裡 再來會造成什麼樣的 就是說你其他的那個砸糧的部分 你真的要政府現在的政策就希望砸糧嘛 給轉做去砸糧嘛 讓我們產量過剩啊我現在再拉高 砸糧我也不行啊"},{"start":21128.658,"end":21154.773,"text":"也會有這樣的一個問題然後最主要就是怎麼樣呢大家提到的就是說十幾年來什麼都波動了你看政府都沒有來多把它做一個提高政府要不要當最後面這一個莊家政府做得到當然也很好我是覺得也很好但是你像譬如說玉米的部分高粱的部分或者說大豆的部分因為我們自給率才一成"},{"start":21155.819,"end":21181.731,"text":"那我現在全部都讀後水到因為我屏東我其他的州全部都有嘛那我為什麼不敢提我讀後這個我其他我造成台灣兩省的自主權你那個真的會被限縮這個我最擔心的就是你看幾年前那個國際價格一波動了以後我告訴你只是我們立法委員感受不到而已那個整個物價全部都會波動"},{"start":21183.345,"end":21210.895,"text":"所以我再講一次就是說這個我來自農業縣我也很想提可是我就是這樣把它權衡完以後不是因為民進黨在執政我不提不是啊不是啊國民黨執政的時候我也就開始當立委了我也不敢提啊是原因在這個地方所以我的意思說大家可以再思考一下請農業部你們也真的再講清楚好不好我不要再多提了沒辦法"},{"start":21213.046,"end":21237.196,"text":"我聽得懂啦 我知道你在說什麼我聽不懂莊委員我覺得你講這樣子不是完全沒有道理我是說意思是說十三年前就我提案的提高了三塊它也沒有造成說什麼你說的什麼崩跌你說的價格壓低它是曾經發生過而且農民都覺得很受益很高興我們在講的不是那些"},{"start":21238.966,"end":21252.91,"text":"幾乎我們兩個榮業先生可以對話而已我要講的就是說你那個提高三塊以後會造成怎麼樣有一個惡性循環每一年都是盛產每一年都一直過剩我可不可以再另外講一件事情就是說剛剛那個國土署的署長離開了他說我們這個都是功過於求結果呢"},{"start":21259.04,"end":21263.528,"text":"現在國土計劃法．要求我們為了糧食安全．要劃無限多的．這個農一、農二．那它都已經生產過剩了．我們為什麼還要劃這麼多的農地呢．"},{"start":21273.251,"end":21273.331,"text":"謝謝主席"},{"start":21295.646,"end":21320.131,"text":"那個針對有關於公糧收購價格的部分那這個主責的是我們的張喜凱委員那張委員很抱歉因為他其實很想參加這場協商但他晚上因為另外早就答應的事情所以沒有辦法趕過來那基本上面我們是支持這個公糧收購價格因為從2011年到現在已經是三年"},{"start":21321.161,"end":21336.563,"text":"中間這段時間的物價大幅的上漲﹐包括了人工肥料、農業資產因此為了要對於整體的農民﹐他們能夠提供一些比較好﹐一些基本生活的維持"},{"start":21337.584,"end":21358.811,"text":"因此我們考慮了包括了各項成本人工肥料還有物價指數所以我們提案的內容是並沒有像中國國民黨那麼多我們提案的是把公糧收購價格從每公斤26元目前的26元再調升5元因為過去是上一次調公糧價格是"},{"start":21366.454,"end":21394.309,"text":"是十三年前了吧?是二零一一年吧?對嘛,二零一一年是十三年那以上先前要說明,謝謝謝謝黃國昌總召的說明接下來請農業部陳部長請主席還有我們在座的各位委員大家好那我想首先還是感謝所有的委員對農業議題的一個關心然後也對農民的收益就是有提出非常高的關心"},{"start":21396.03,"end":21419.065,"text":"我想大院的所有的委員不只是在座的委員跟我們農業部是一樣我們都共同的目標就是希望能夠確保我們農民的所得是提高的甚至於是確保的部分這個目標的一致之下那我們再開始去思考我們到底用什麼樣的策略方案或是手段或是措施能夠達成這樣的一個目的"},{"start":21419.685,"end":21441.225,"text":"那以國民黨團跟民眾黨團他們所提出來的就是要求我們農業部調高公糧收購價格到八塊或五塊這是一個方法這是一個方法那我們也提出了一個方法這兩個方法最大的不一樣就是公糧收購的一個方法直接提高的方法它是非常直接"},{"start":21442.386,"end":21466.946,"text":"然後也許農民馬上有感但是它是一個強心針那以過去的例子每次提高供糧的當年絕對有效可是因為供糧的價格提高了那個誘因會讓更多的農民本來種別的作物的就會去種所以它的那個面積水稻面積就會慢慢的成長"},{"start":21468.027,"end":21495.598,"text":"那成長了以後他整個的稻穀的產量變多了那變多的時候因為公糧的收購還是有限的大部分還是民糧所以民糧的部分就會往下降對於稻農本身的收益並不是有利的那農業部所提出的方法是我們是調整整個農業的產業的結構來支撐農民的收益這兩個等一下我會去講然後各位是不是可以請翻開簡報的"},{"start":21497.679,"end":21505.053,"text":"第二頁這邊我簡單的說明齁如果提高了公糧那基本上因為公糧現在目前整個大股的收購"},{"start":21506.502,"end":21533.631,"text":"百分之三十是繳公糧﹑百分之七十是繳民糧的那我提高了這個公糧的收購只是在百分之三十的農民受益百分之七十的農民並沒有直接受益他依賴的就是民糧跟著提高才會受益但是民糧我剛才說的面積一提高的話他就不一定會跟著正成長這是第一個部分然後第二個部分請看第三頁這邊這個就是很明顯的例子"},{"start":21534.511,"end":21554.344,"text":"在一百年的時候提高了公糧的價格以後﹐它的確有提高了﹐可是後續它就往下降了﹐往下降了﹐甚至到一百零九年的時候﹐那個土黃色的柱狀土就是公糧收購的量﹐就是當你價格越低的時候﹐它就會跑去繳公糧了﹐那反而是對產業結構不好﹐"},{"start":21556.345,"end":21575.203,"text":"在一百年開始我們推動了一些政策可以讓產地的價格提高的時候它就不繳公糧了所以在這樣的一個因素之下各位請看第四頁這是我們最擔心的這是我想我們過去三、四個月來其實到產業去了解了很多"},{"start":21576.204,"end":21604.785,"text":"現在產業鏈因為到處有它的產業鏈包括央苗包括資材包括肥料的部分甚至於整地的這些工資的部分很多人就在等著公糧價格的提高因為一提高的話他們的他們的整個的費用也會跟著提高因為公糧提高了那這個一提高的部分就會稀釋掉它的一個農民的一個因為公糧提高的一個一個收益就會被稀釋掉那第二個部分是"},{"start":21607.654,"end":21634.551,"text":"生產成本的提高並不是只有水稻產業還有其他的產業那其他的產業他們過往因為成本的提高是他們想辦法去提升他們的生產效率來支撐這個產業那我們現在如果說提高了公糧帶動了整個的生產成本也會波及到其他的產業的時候那對其他產業來講他沒有辦法享受到公糧收購"},{"start":21635.532,"end":21662.344,"text":"但是他最獲得了這些整個整體產業的成本提高會讓他的整個的一個原來的那個收益也會更為向低所以這個部分就是我們目前在評估的整個的公糧的收購可能的負面影響因為我一開始講他是一個選項那到底是不是一個最好的選項我們根據這樣的一個分析其實他不是一個最好的選項所以換句話說"},{"start":21663.965,"end":21686.516,"text":"我們覺得所有的要確保農民的所得提高第一個一定要確保面積面積拉高產量過剩的時候永遠沒辦法去處理所以我們評估的結果從過去的評估結果是二十四萬公頃是一個很好的一個面積那在這個面積之下我們設計的一個叫做一級二轉三加三"},{"start":21687.276,"end":21709.965,"text":"那所謂的一級的部分就是﹐剛才張家俊委員所提到的﹐沒有錯﹐很多老農﹐他是個體戶﹐他大概就是只能繳工糧﹐所以我們希望說﹐我們可以引導這些﹐因為老農他也不是親自去種﹐他是用代耕﹐打個電話﹐說實在﹐種水稻是打電話種水稻﹐因為有很好的代耕系統﹐"},{"start":21711.332,"end":21727.672,"text":"就是我今天我有一甲地打個電話以後就去耕作了所以我們希望引導這些代耕業者能夠變成一個集團產區變成集團經營那過往的例子就是集團經營就是用U值的米"},{"start":21728.613,"end":21729.113,"text":"三、研 民進黨黨團提議．"},{"start":21751.084,"end":21753.886,"text":"第二百四十五條之一、三百四十五條之一、三百四十五條之一、三百四十五條之一、三百四十五條之一、三百四十五條之一、"},{"start":21766.474,"end":21791.785,"text":"有一個部分非常重要我要跟主席跟各位委員報告的就是我們的高鐵沿線因為地層下降的關係我們一直希望說它不要種水稻而轉作旱作那轉作旱作的時候我們會發給節水獎勵節水獎勵的部分本來是三萬塊我們現在提高到五萬塊也增加到兩萬塊然後這個部分我想能夠讓它去做做它的一個旱作"},{"start":21793.166,"end":21822.452,"text":"二期作本身因為水稻農民會賺錢大概是一期作二期作他的收益會比較低那所以我們會鼓勵這些二期作不種稻那不種稻我會給他一些獎勵那這樣子的話他配合了其他的作物獎勵的時候那他就會有系統的能夠獲得更高的收益那最後三加三的部分就是我們用這樣的一個方案很負責任的我們一定會"},{"start":21825.153,"end":21850.401,"text":"讓整個稻穀的價格在三年之內一定會提高三塊錢提高三塊錢我們還有原來的這些獎勵都還在我們覺得說用這樣的一個方式是讓產業持續的進步而且讓農民也能夠跟著受益而不是用一個強心針直接提高這樣的一個供糧以上說明謝謝陳部長的說明接下來我們請張家俊委員請"},{"start":21853.323,"end":21867.025,"text":"謝謝主席就是不可否認陳部長也是農業專家他也非常的認真但是呢有幾件事情他剛剛講的本席完全不可以認同就是"},{"start":21869.841,"end":21892.384,"text":"他說 帶動產業鏈成本上漲就是因為產業鏈成本已經上漲了我們才要提高公糧收購的價格你怎麼把它反過來說呢說提高公糧收購價格會帶動產業鏈成本上漲這是一個非常沒有邏輯的說法那另外 另外"},{"start":21896.547,"end":21909.024,"text":"另外本席也同意你剛剛講的你剛剛講說這些都是最辛苦最老的這些沒有辦法做其他作物的農民他在領取的"},{"start":21910.373,"end":21927.281,"text":"那至少他也就是很努力啊我想要講的就是說陳部長你既然有這麼有理想的話你覺得公糧收購價格不是一個健全的體制的話你為什麼不把它廢掉你有東西可以取代你把它廢掉啊但你也沒有東西可以取代然後你告訴我說高鐵沿線黃金廊道計畫"},{"start":21934.799,"end":21948.35,"text":"高鐵沿線黃金廊道計劃跟公糧收購有什麼關係那個是這麼狹窄可能是高鐵沿線兩公里的你用這個來跟我講全部農民的事情你就是在騙這些沒有種田的人嘛"},{"start":21958.39,"end":21977.681,"text":"然後你還告訴我說我再算一次給你聽我再算假設我們以雲林縣為例我們農業的產值是八百五十四億人口二十二萬平均年收入三十八萬遠低於我們全國的平均收入八十幾萬"},{"start":21981.533,"end":21991.865,"text":"扣除成本﹐他們的年收入只有23萬等於每個人平均的月收入只有1.9萬我想要請教陳部長﹐假設你是一個這麼有作為﹐這麼有理想的部長"},{"start":21997.691,"end":22006.198,"text":"要怎麼樣提高農民的收益 你告訴我 我們都會支持你你知道我們全台灣低收入戶的平均值是多少嗎一萬四千兩百三十塊 中低收入戶是兩萬一千七百四十五塊就告訴你說 以我們雲林縣為例 我們的農民都是"},{"start":22021.071,"end":22045.487,"text":"在低收入戶跟中低收入戶當中在取得生存你現在在告訴我那些高大上的東西完全不符合我們現在農民的需求公糧收購我再講一次公糧收購是在照顧沒有能力行銷轉型的老農民如果說種別的作物可以讓他們賺大錢誘因足夠讓他們願意去學習"},{"start":22051.051,"end":22062.063,"text":"那我也不反對啊所以我現在在講的是說這個可能沒種過田的大家請不要低估柯總召對菸農貢獻很大"},{"start":22069.741,"end":22090.496,"text":"就是我想要跟大家報告的是他們真的很辛苦你的強心劑就是在救這些老農你的強心劑就是在救這些30%繳交公糧的老農民所以我現在還是希望陳部長假設13年前可以調漲"},{"start":22091.617,"end":22108.362,"text":"這十三年當中 農業部難道沒有做任何的努力說 假設你們覺得公糧收購價格的這個制度是不好的你們有什麼東西可以取代它 你們十三年都沒有作為今天才來告訴我說 你要一級二轉三加三"},{"start":22110.134,"end":22117.021,"text":"然後基本上你的一級二轉三加三全部都是現行的再加上多一點點錢這樣子那你為什麼不把那多一點點的錢拿來"},{"start":22123.615,"end":22145.46,"text":"做公糧收購價格的提高呢我就不理解你一級二轉三加三要花多少錢呀搞不好要花一百億然後我們這個公糧收購價格提高八塊只要花二十三億你不用好 不好意思 謝謝沒有啦 我有算啦 提供八塊這樣花二十三億而已啊一百零八億啦沒有 一百零八億是他算的啦一併來補充說明 非常感謝請洪孟愷書記長走私一億了"},{"start":22153.717,"end":22157.24,"text":"公共政策都可以討論但是我們看到說提出這樣的一個方案這幾天"},{"start":22182.748,"end":22208.546,"text":"這一兩個月鋪天蓋地你很多的媒體報導什麼就開始又在講說這個工糧漲價的話會造成等等等等的這個產業的一個部分還是一樣啊是導果為因還是導因為果就是說從2011年到現在過去13年內到底我們這個農民朋友他的一些成本漲了多少你說"},{"start":22211.969,"end":22238.823,"text":"相關的這個成本都有漲價的一個情況那你現在講說公糧如果說在漲價的話反而會再造成說其他的這個漲我其實說實在的話我們第一次看到說有做那麼做這個PowerPoint那麼精美的這個簡報彩色的但是你不要只是講負面影響一個公共政策一定有好有壞"},{"start":22239.997,"end":22258.094,"text":"那公糧價格調漲有什麼負面影響,你把它羅列那麼多那你怎麼不講說公糧價格調高有什麼正面影響那還有啊,如果說公糧價格調高有負面影響,那你是意思是怎樣公糧價格可以降低,可以帶來正面是不是不是嘛"},{"start":22260.29,"end":22285.243,"text":"是不是 邏輯問題啊如果 哇 你現在在講是說工糧價格高只要工糧價格高了 產業成本就會上漲那難道工糧價格低 產業成本就會下跌嗎不是啊 所以它不是必然 你懂我意思嗎現在是因為產業的成本也跟著高了所以說現在民意代表 不管是藍的 不管是綠的都希望幫這些農民來請命說有沒有可能有討論的空間"},{"start":22287.21,"end":22315.379,"text":"好 我再拉回來啊過去 遠的不講至少過去兩次公糧價格調漲靠近選舉年大家也講是不是有什麼相關的一個因素那我們現在剛好是大選剛結束的時候我們真的可以比較理性勿實的來討論公糧價格十三年沒有漲的這樣的一個因素本席真的很不希望啊你現在告訴我們說不能漲不能漲因為成本會降"},{"start":22316.465,"end":22340.917,"text":"提高 結果過兩年了2026到了 2028到了突然間農業部要來公糧價格調漲不要這樣子所以現在我們反而是一個因為沒有選舉的因素各自回到原本本席沒有反對或否認你的一、二、三一級二轉三加三 很好能夠做去做"},{"start":22342.267,"end":22357.398,"text":"不衝突真的不衝突一級二轉三加三去做我們鼓勵農業部好好的做但是供糧價格調漲的部分適時的反映最基本的成本"},{"start":22358.652,"end":22374.447,"text":"所以我們的結論我們現在不知道民進黨團的代表的意見怎麼樣民眾黨團是說提高五塊國民黨團的這個我們的提案包括張家俊委員、楊全文委員等等是建議提高八塊"},{"start":22375.796,"end":22393.104,"text":"那是不是有一個合理的計算大家來去做一個評估行政部門能不能告訴我們說過去至少這十年來這個農民朋友的成本到底漲了多少那適時的來做一個合理的評估跟合理的增加"},{"start":22398.164,"end":22422,"text":"謝謝紅夢凱書記長的發言接下來請陳部長發言完再請柯總召最後發言請陳部長謝謝院長還有謝謝剛才委員的一些疑問那我這邊第一個要說明的就是公糧的制度全世界只剩下台灣有這個公糧制度日本跟我們臨近的過去日本跟韓國都有但是都在二零一幾年的時候就已經都停掉了那"},{"start":22423.208,"end":22439.548,"text":"公糧 剛才委員說公糧如果是不好要停那個停絕對不是明天就宣布說不收公糧了一定是漸進式的所以我們希望說因為百分之七十是繳民糧如果越多人繳民糧"},{"start":22440.93,"end":22441.07,"text":"二、研商有關"},{"start":22470.93,"end":22471.03,"text":"二、研商有關"},{"start":22488.911,"end":22503.268,"text":"總統的因素也提高了那我們今天如果只處理到因為很抱歉農業部不能只雖然說這個議題是公糧但是我們在考慮政策的設計的時候不能只考慮稻作這個部分我們也要考慮其他的一個產業所以換句話說"},{"start":22505.771,"end":22528.026,"text":"同樣的我剛才有說過其他的產業他面臨成本提高的時候他是想辦法提高他的生產效率那我剛才也說了我們的這個政策裡面我們就會去引導這些也許他年紀比較大的能夠來參與這個極端產區過去也許我們只是有一個公告你要來不來隨便你但是"},{"start":22528.926,"end":22543.634,"text":"我會以非常負責任的一個態度我們會更積極的主動去協助這些慢慢的把它轉出來它當然也不可能說明天政策一宣布就轉過來所以它需要是一點時間那最重要的一點就是"},{"start":22544.961,"end":22573.559,"text":"當我們在處理這樣的一個價格的議題的時候我們一定要看到產業的前景農業一定要持續去進步那在這個前提之下我們要找到一個橫平性這是我們設計這樣的一個政策的一個主要的原因謝謝謝謝陳部長 接下來請柯建民總召發言吳思堯委員請準備這個供應能收穫價格提高大清起來對農民一定很有利每一個人 立委好像很喜歡急"},{"start":22574.693,"end":22595.494,"text":"那為何十三年前提到現在又再提呢?我們要了解啦,台灣是全世界唯一還在工廠收購了。我們剛才部長也講得很清楚嘛,所有產業鏈都是有產業鏈,你工廠收購價格提高當然"},{"start":22597.402,"end":22625.04,"text":"這個工資會提高 也會帶動其他嘛那公糧收購只有百分之三十而已啊然後其他沒有交公糧的 那我們要不要照顧所以 因為比較重點就是說那農業難道只有這個用這個道具 用這個工具來補助島民嗎農業還有其他欸還有出口發廢等等 太多了啊"},{"start":22626.147,"end":22654.926,"text":"所以我們不要用簡單的邏輯就是說我這樣提高對農民會很高興但是百分之七十並沒有拿到百分之三十有啊所以我認為大家要想一想議法委員提一個法案我們不知道這是什麼案子叫做結議案也罷要叫政府付出一百多億因為五塊錢要九十億"},{"start":22656.533,"end":22685.183,"text":"那這個可以這樣做嗎?因為有一個決議案有一個決議案這個有一百零八算好你再對一下嘛那隨時大家提一個決議就叫政府要多付出這個憲法上合不合啊?要想一想啊?是不是這樣?你讓人家再多我來拿一個明天要保守什麼要保國那五樹蔬菜的"},{"start":22689.174,"end":22704.403,"text":"這個是可以這樣嗎?你再想一想好不好我認為這個邏輯你們自己要想清楚好像表面上討好我們但是大部分沒有人大部分你會得罪大部分沒有人拿到的好謝謝柯建民總統的發言請吳思瑤委員請發言"},{"start":22705.575,"end":22706.856,"text":"蔣麗芸議員蔣麗芸議員蔣麗芸議員蔣麗芸議員蔣麗芸議員蔣麗芸議員蔣麗芸議員"},{"start":22729.071,"end":22729.451,"text":"三、研 三、研 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第二個"},{"start":24231.82,"end":24256.73,"text":"對農業部跟政府的責任你們現在不是只有壓低他或說不幫他啊你們有太多方法啊最近不是臺美二十一世紀貿易倡議美國要要求開放很多農產品進來嗎我們有幫我們的稻農說我們的稻米要怎麼外銷嗎你們有開口說美國的農產品要進來我們的稻米可以到美國去嗎"},{"start":24258.598,"end":24283.5,"text":"我們的政府 我們人心自認 我們政府幫我們的大農幫農民做了多少事情你們說連最基本的生老手續都不幫他們你們至少冒著良心講 你說真的是貴賬 那你幫他外銷啊至少在台美二十一世紀 貿易參與的時候 美國所有農產品進來你開口說我們的大農有需要把大米到那邊去啊 你們有沒有開口"},{"start":24285.7,"end":24312.984,"text":"先回過頭我先回過頭問我們政府幫我們農民做了什麼事情當你應該幫他解決問題就跟這些雞蛋一樣啊雞蛋過剩那天卓院長講得很好啊我們不只是多了雞蛋蛋液不應該進去我們要幫雞蛋找出路啊你們有幫我們的稻農找出路嗎當政府都沒有幫我們稻農的時候他們生活這麼苦為什麼不幫他們呢"},{"start":24314.295,"end":24342.706,"text":"我剛唸了這一段你當初的初心跟我剛在講的柯總專的初心回過頭幫幫我們的道容好不好好那如果今天真的還沒有答我這樣心疼我們的農民大家還是不接受國民黨已經提案嘛台灣民眾黨基於理性物質科學我們也算出來這段時間成本貴了那麼多物價高了那麼多"},{"start":24343.965,"end":24362.052,"text":"人工高的那麼多 最近通膨又那麼嚴重你想像你如果是一個成長在那個農家的家庭 你受到多大的衝擊為什麼不調呢 現在經公司都要調啊剛剛怎麼會有一個理論說 公民黨調了以後 其他周遭的跟著漲那這樣經公司要不要調上個禮拜又有立委問央行的總裁啊 說你現在要調四趴會不會帶動一些什麼物價什麼那些 總裁說不會啊"},{"start":24373.968,"end":24395.847,"text":"為什麽進攻照條都不會有影響 功能稍微動一下下什麽萬物 什麽成本就跟著漲 這樣有道理嗎我們理性物質科學 講道理 也心疼 那麽期待總之我們做個結論好不好 期待 不要一毛不拔 不要寸草不生國民黨提八塊 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物質也是如此啊"},{"start":24579.446,"end":24585.132,"text":"應該從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前...從前..."},{"start":24591.346,"end":24619.34,"text":"這很務實嗎?這很科學嗎?我跟您報告一下等一下我幫你講完好像你講完以後不要我就表決我不知道你用什麼基礎了這法律基礎在什麼地方呢?你把我一個捷運就可以增加國家支出一百多億這是法律基礎在哪裡?你是用預售法?還是哪一個法?傳遞記憶法?還是憲法?哪一個法律基礎在哪裡?你國會托入辦事處你民間就可以"},{"start":24620.456,"end":24637.776,"text":"讓一個表決增加一百多億,後邊也可以再創造一個表決,我要照顧移民,再增加兩百億也可以。這又搞什麼?這之前是這樣搞的,你對有沒有法律基礎?有沒有憲法基礎?我先講這個,你不要說我建法,我批評他,不要管。"},{"start":24641.175,"end":24644.96,"text":"陳副長說我很怕你再講科學又拖延陳副長謝謝"},{"start":24659.417,"end":24687.734,"text":"好,謝謝,謝謝院長,我想非常簡單的再一點回應第一個就是我向來的立場,從520向來的立場我覺得我要讓農民成為一個非常有尊嚴的一個職業我們要讓外界看待農民是要看他對這片台灣這片土地守護的這個貢獻這個是我一定是堅持的所以我在歷次的本身,我說一定是提高農民所得"},{"start":24688.775,"end":24705.653,"text":"不是盜農 這兩個是不一樣喔因為農業部看的是整體的農民而不是一個族群的農民不是說那個不重要第二個部分說我說我們一定會找到一個最好的一個方法那很多選項提高公糧收購也是一個選項"},{"start":24707.554,"end":24732.29,"text":"所以在那個時間點是這樣子那特別跟他提到了那個美濃的中總幹事他本來也是支持說要提高的後來他看到我們這個政策這個政策其實在我們在前幾個禮拜有跟一些極端產區的農會做溝通他們反而是支持這樣的方式那我剛才也講了像花東地區他都不繳公糧90%是不繳公糧的"},{"start":24734.992,"end":24757.707,"text":"那那一些完全是反對的所以換句話說一個公糧的收購光是種到的人就有不同的聲音那我們希望說用我們的方法能夠穩健的讓我們台灣的農業包括我們的水稻產業能夠持續的進步那我會非常負責任的去落實這樣的一個政策那也請我們的委員來支持 以上"},{"start":24759.24,"end":24765.638,"text":"謝謝各位委員同仁、黨團幹部也謝謝農業部陳部長、各位列席的官員那我們現在先念一下我們黨團協商結論"},{"start":24767.831,"end":24786.243,"text":"協商主題 立法院國民黨團建請院會作成決議 農業部應調整供糧收購價格由每公斤二十六元調整至每公斤三十四元提高農民基本利潤 請供決案 開會時間一百一三年七月十二日星期五二十一時二十五分 開會地點議場三樓會議室 協商結論"},{"start":24790.014,"end":24817.172,"text":"一、本案及臺灣民眾黨黨團所提修正動議案均保留送請院會處理二、院會進行處理時由臺灣民眾黨黨團推派一位、美進黨黨團推派兩位、國民黨黨團推派兩位輪流交叉發言、順序授權議事處處理每人發言時間為三分鐘,發言後不再發言"},{"start":24818.058,"end":24823.131,"text":"及進行處理 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國防部王處長歡迎您NCC法律事務處蔡處長歡迎您警政署刑事警察局張繼正歡迎您交通部民用航空局朱副組長歡迎您海洋委員會海巡署孫副組長歡迎您"},{"start":25047.077,"end":25071.043,"text":"個人資料保護委員會嚴科長歡迎您向各位黨團幹部報告昨天我們協商的結論名稱第一條至第十一條均保留送院會處理表決前繼續協商現在我們在表決前我們繼續協商請提議的柯建民總召請發言這是你提出來的"},{"start":25073.484,"end":25091.734,"text":"我還是要很懇請拜託理性物質科學這個法案在現在科技偵察法剛剛要送到立法院來審查的時候和到目前為止民進黨黨團都包括了"},{"start":25095.228,"end":25116.502,"text":"司法委員大家在執行,包括羅志祥等等,我們再重新調整過,已經修改了十個條文。換句話說,它原來的不一樣。當然我知道黃國昌委員主張是要修刑事訴訟法,但是呢,他講了一個很有道理的事情,就是刑事訴訟法是"},{"start":25118.143,"end":25133.685,"text":"含一個十幾的 但是現在已經不是十幾的問題了 程序的問題了 程序的問題 現在是包括十幾的又有罰則 又有增加犯罪類型 那今天我們要面對就是說 那這案"},{"start":25135.578,"end":25155.112,"text":"打詐科技偵、偵查法、打詐司法 大家都知道黨黨的傷口 全民都在等待我們今天早上第一案子跟第二案子是協商好的 詐欺危害防制法以及通訊保障法那剩下就是說科證法比較麻煩 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:"我肯定鄭明謙至少他做了一件事情他沒有押案我肯定賴清德今天在賴清德當總統他說不分黨派有必就查今天第一槍開槍了鄭文燦但是我要問的是蔡英文我要問的是民進黨"},{"start":2573.013,"end":2595.503,"text":"請問像鄭文燦這種施法蓋牌、閉案黑箱甚至施案押案7年的這種情況只有鄭文燦這一件嗎?也因為延宕7年甚至對鄭文燦發動搜索也沒有辦法發動的情況之下我質詢法務部,法務部告訴我啊"},{"start":2596.955,"end":2612.936,"text":"過去在偵辦高雄安、林芝廟或是楊文科案的時候檢方是大舉兵分多路搜索這些當事人扣取直接的物證但是現在鄭文燦只有跟監跟所謂的監聽的間接證據"},{"start":2616.378,"end":2639.971,"text":"這種所謂的民進黨縣市首長今天涉及貪腐所享受的低度偵查的特權就是民進黨執政的一個重要的特色民進黨的執政縣市首長竟然可以被押案7年現在終於可以一線曙光賴清德請你好好打開蔡英文的黑箱不要再皺容黑金橫行"},{"start":2645.322,"end":2651.17,"text":"謝謝羅志強委員的發言。報告委員會現在登記國是論壇發言的委員均已發言完畢。現在休息。"},{"start":2940.602,"end":2940.902,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":2970.708,"end":2974.238,"text":"公佈委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":4314.372,"end":4315.176,"text":"韓國瑜報告"},{"start":4360.157,"end":4373.321,"text":"委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":4412.372,"end":4414.097,"text":"委員會委員會長"},{"start":4766.223,"end":4766.526,"text":"以下。"},{"start":5066.186,"end":5075.513,"text":"委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":5092.492,"end":5102.116,"text":"委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":5118.435,"end":5130.964,"text":"委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":5188.254,"end":5188.274,"text":"韓國瑜議員"},{"start":5275.06,"end":5275.241,"text":"韓國瑜主席"},{"start":5368.916,"end":5396.408,"text":"響鐘"},{"start":5397.826,"end":5399.477,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":5474.671,"end":5474.774,"text":"中文字幕組"},{"start":5504.841,"end":5505.739,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":5564.246,"end":5564.266,"text":"三、4、5、6、7、8、9、10、11、12、13、14、15、15、16、17、18、19、20、21、22、23、24、25、26、27、28、29、30、31、32、33、34、35、36、37、40、40、41、42、43、44、45、45、46、46、47、49、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、"},{"start":5586.253,"end":5597.002,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":5655.213,"end":5655.233,"text":"三、4、5、6、7、8、9、10、11、12、13、14、15、16、17、18、19、20、21、22、23、24、25、26、27、28、29、30、31、32、33、34、35、36、37、40、40、41、42、43、44、45、45、46、46、47、48、49、49、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、50、"},{"start":5664.534,"end":5674.777,"text":"報告委員會現在我們繼續開會請秘書長報告出席人數報告委員會出席委員78人已足法定人數我們現在開會報告委員會因為程序委員會"},{"start":5683.959,"end":5701.823,"text":"以本次會議是日程草案送院會處理現有黨團依本院議事成立分別對本次會議是日程草案提出異議現在我們進行處理並截止收案我們先進行報告事項部分請議事人員宣讀黨團之提議內容"},{"start":5705.495,"end":5725.595,"text":"委員民進黨黨團針對立法院第11屆第1會期第22次會議．事由．報告事項．請針列下表15案,其餘就．事由．草案原列報告事項所列第1案至第14案,第16案至第24案,第28案至第433案,是否有當進行公決?"},{"start":5727.557,"end":5750.424,"text":"本院中國國民黨立法院黨團針對第11屆第1會期第22次會議依序呈報告事項及質詢事項僅限列如下是否有當機請公決一、除依全草案第29至51案不予列案外其餘照原編理依全草案二、增列報告事項如下表供就案。續讀完畢"},{"start":5756.002,"end":5784.283,"text":"現在請問會對民進黨黨團所爭列報告事項的提議通過有無意義?沒有意義哈?有沒有意義?對民進黨黨團提議所爭列報告事項通過有無意義?有意義是嗎?確定嗎?確定有意義哈?"},{"start":5794.49,"end":5813.037,"text":"國民黨團有異議我們現在進行表決按鈴7分鐘請分發表決卡謝依鳳委員到場了嗎?謝依鳳委員有到場嗎?"},{"start":5819.213,"end":5820.234,"text":"謝一鳳委員也在場嗎?謝一鳳?沒有在場。"},{"start":5858.947,"end":5859.568,"text":"國民黨黨團總召"},{"start":5869.399,"end":5878.488,"text":"謝一芬委員現在進場了今天跟議員會報告是謝一芬委員的生日我們幫她掌聲和聲一下祝福生日快樂"},{"start":5895.053,"end":5896.276,"text":"委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":5932.712,"end":5932.952,"text":"委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":5955.449,"end":5958.871,"text":"委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":5969.66,"end":5978.929,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":5987.088,"end":5993.238,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":6058.695,"end":6088.009,"text":"兩、三、四、五、六、七、八、九、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、九、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、十、一、二、三、四、五、六、十、一、二、三、四、五、十、一、二、三、四、五、十、一、二、三、四、五、十、一、二、三、四、五、十、一、二、三、四、五、十、一、二、三、四、五、十、一、二、三、四、五、十、一、二、"},{"start":6096.015,"end":6123.643,"text":"一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、三、四、五、六一、二、"},{"start":6130.589,"end":6132.171,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":6175.664,"end":6176.485,"text":"我們不予列案啊。"},{"start":6178.72,"end":6200.448,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":6210.384,"end":6229.94,"text":"議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會"},{"start":6238.678,"end":6253.347,"text":"報告院會現在我們先休息十分鐘請各黨團幹部到議會議長休息室我們來進行溝通請休息十分鐘"},{"start":6287.432,"end":6290.508,"text":"本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會報告"},{"start":6318.507,"end":6332.688,"text":"總統"},{"start":6333.131,"end":6359.272,"text":"兩、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":6390.435,"end":6398.843,"text":"二、7月16日下午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。二、7月16日下午9時為國是論壇時間。"},{"start":6429.436,"end":6444.069,"text":"委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":6564.455,"end":6566.577,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":6602.485,"end":6615.394,"text":"二、7月16日下午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。"},{"start":6639.991,"end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案為社會福利及衛生環境委員會等所提示報告案。執行事項假行政院答案部分一件與本院委員執行部分一件對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續執行"},{"start":15378.983,"end":15401.28,"text":"決定一、將國委員發言紀錄及書面質詢函送行政院請就位答問部分,予以書面答問。二、已提出書面質詢,尚未登載公報則,一律補刊。議討論事項第一案決議,函請行政院延除。議討論事項第二案決議,另定其處理。議討論事項第二案決議,另定其處理。議討論事項第二案決議,另定其處理。議討論事項第二案決議,另定其處理。議討論事項第二案決議,另定其處理。議討論事項第二案決議,另定其處理。議討論事項第二案決議,另定其處理。議討論事項"},{"start":15404.736,"end":15432.683,"text":"報議會針對第1會期第21次會議一事錄並無委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處。我們作以下之決定。第1會期第21次會議錄一事錄確定。報議會現在我們進行處理民進黨黨團爭裂部分。請宣讀第一案。第一案。北京委員吳思瑤等47人擬具今年基本法草案請選一案。議事處理屆民情會交交易及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。請議會有異議。無異議通過下一案。"},{"start":15433.171,"end":15458.66,"text":"第二案,委員員林一景等27人擬具:「臺灣地區有道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草情緒一案,依釋出一件例行會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。報議會請問有異議請問第二案有民進黨黨團要求退回請問議會有異議無異議通過好"},{"start":15466.483,"end":15488.581,"text":"跟證報告院會現針對民進黨針對報告事項第二案現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有無異議跟證無異議我們退回下一案"},{"start":15490.66,"end":15501.928,"text":"第三案本院委員王育敏等17人擬具《臺灣地區有道道地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案侵水案》侵水案侵水案侵水案侵水案侵水"},{"start":15506.138,"end":15522.334,"text":"報告委員會現有民進黨黨團增列報告事項第三案現有台灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問委員會有異議反對好我們進行表決案名7分鐘請分發表決卡現在開始"},{"start":15951.345,"end":15955.469,"text":"請問還有沒有委員沒有拿到表決卡?都拿到表決卡?好"},{"start":15974.813,"end":15986.674,"text":"報告議員會現在我們進行民進黨黨團政略報告事項第三案贊成台灣民眾黨黨團提退回程序委員會請按贊成反對請按反對現在表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16064.801,"end":16073.89,"text":"報告出席委員110位、贊成60位、反對50位、贊成者多數。報告委員會現有民進黨黨團體重複表決。我們現在進行重複表決、記名表決。時間一分鐘,現在開始。"},{"start":16156.437,"end":16180.686,"text":"報告委員會報告表決結果出席110位、贊成60位、反對50位、贊成者多數本案退回程序委員會重新提出下一案。第四案本院委員參議與董事監理局臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案請審議案。議事處理監理委員會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":16181.414,"end":16200.411,"text":"報告院會針對報告事項第四案現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有異議?反對我們有異議我們進行表決表決時間一分鐘贊成臺灣民眾黨黨團退回程序委員會請按贊成反對請按反對現在表決開始"},{"start":16273.908,"end":16286.962,"text":"報告委員會現在宣布表決結果出席110位委員贊成60位反對50位贊成者多數報告委員會現有民進黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行重複表決記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16364.148,"end":16388.535,"text":"國安委員會報告重複表決結果,出席110位委員,贊成60位,反對50位,贊成者多數本案退回程序委員會。下一案。議議五案。北部委員工欲擒等16人擬具《臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案情勢》案。議事處意見。議請回交內政委員或審查。宣傳完畢。"},{"start":16390.404,"end":16409.762,"text":"法院會針對民進黨針列報告事項第五案現由臺灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出。請問院會有異議?反對我們進行表決贊成臺灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16482.668,"end":16493.355,"text":"報告院會宣布表決結果出席110位委員贊成60位反對50位贊成者多數報告院會現有民黨黨團提議重複表決我們進行重複表決記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16570.342,"end":16594.153,"text":"報告委員會宣布重複表決結果。出席110位。贊成60位。反對50位。贊成者多數。本案退回程序委員會。下一案。議案第六案。本院委員張宏魯等18人擬具《臺灣地區與道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案》請審議案。依次推薦擬請回交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":16595.103,"end":16608.252,"text":"報告委員會針對報告事項第六案現有台灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問委員會有異議?反對我們進行表決我們贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16685.748,"end":16696.739,"text":"報告委員會現在報告表決結果出席110位贊成60位反對50位贊成者多數報告委員會現有民進黨團體重複表決我們進行重複表決進名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16772.315,"end":16797.054,"text":"報告委員會現在報告重複表決結果出席110位贊成60位反對50位本案贊成者多數退回程序委員會下一案第七二本院委員張雅玲等17人擬具《臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案審選一案》議事處意見擬情和交內政委員會審查宣布完畢"},{"start":16798.084,"end":16809.009,"text":"報院會針對民進黨黨團針對報告事項第七案現有台灣民眾黨黨團提退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有異議?有異議反對我們進行表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16890.646,"end":16899.895,"text":"報院會現在報告表決結果出席110位贊成60位反對50位贊成者多數報院會現有民進黨黨團體重複表決我們進行重複表決記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":16975.967,"end":16999.426,"text":"報告委員會現在宣布重複表決結果,出席110位,贊成60位,反對50位,贊成者多數。本案退回程序委員會。下一頁。議議八案。本院委員林月琴等時間也擬具《臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案》行稅一案。議事主席,您請回交內政委員會審查。宣告完畢。"},{"start":17000.336,"end":17014.283,"text":"關於會針對民黨陣列報告事項第八案現有臺灣民眾黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有異議?反對我們現在進行表決贊成、暗贊成、反對暗反正時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":17088.817,"end":17098.608,"text":"現在宣布表決結果出席110位、贊成60、反對50位、贊成者多數。報告委員會現有民黨黨團提議重複表決。我們現在進行重複表決、記名表決時間一分鐘。現在開始。"},{"start":17177.336,"end":17186.95,"text":"現在宣布重複表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數本案退回程序委員會下一案"},{"start":17187.574,"end":17210.603,"text":"第九案本院委員李博毅等19人擬具臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條的文修正草及審議案依次促進民警會長內政委會審查宣讀完畢報告院會報告事項第九案現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有異議反對有異議我們進行表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":17285.82,"end":17295.588,"text":"現在報告表決結果出席110位、贊成60位、反對50位、贊成者多數。抱怨會現有民進黨黨團體重複表決。我們現在進行重複表決。記名表決時間一分鐘,現在開始。"},{"start":17382.759,"end":17406.648,"text":"博文貴現在宣布重複表決結果出席109位贊成60位反對49位贊成者多數本案退回程序委員會。下一案。第十二本院委員吳秉瑞等19人擬具臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案請審議案。議事處理屆年輕會教內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":17409.52,"end":17422.094,"text":"法院會針對民黨黨團針對報告事項第十案現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出請問院會有異議?有異議我們進行表決暫時請案暫時反對請案暫時反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":17501.418,"end":17529.296,"text":"拜會現在宣布表決結果出席110位贊成60位反對50位贊成者多數麻煩請各黨團幹部約束一下自己的委員同仁拜會現在有邱毅英委員聲明對剛才表決與民進黨黨團意見一致列入公報記錄"},{"start":17537.235,"end":17557.062,"text":"兜圓會請各黨團幹部根據草引協商約束一下各位黨團委員同仁請維持議場的次序請維持議場的次序請各黨團幹部"},{"start":17573.304,"end":17577.186,"text":"各位現在有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行重複表決記名表決11分鐘現在開始"},{"start":17652.745,"end":17675.482,"text":"現在宣布表決結果出席111位贊成60位反對51位贊成者多數本案退回程序委員會報告委員會林委員淑芬聲明本日表決與民進黨黨團意見一致列入公報記錄下一案"},{"start":17676.175,"end":17688.804,"text":"第11案本院委員陳美瑜等17人擬具臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案請審議二。議事處理屆臺灣民眾黨黨團提退回程序委員會重新提出請問會有無異議有異議我們進行表決時間一分鐘暫時暫時暫時反對暗反對現在開始"},{"start":17778.698,"end":17793.038,"text":"報告表決結果,出席110位、贊成60位、反對50位、贊成者多數。報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決。我們先行重複表決。姓名表決時間一分鐘,現在開始。"},{"start":17867.213,"end":17876.22,"text":"報告委員會宣布表決結果。出席111位、贊成60位、反對51位、贊成者多數。退回程序委員會。"},{"start":17878.001,"end":17905.369,"text":"第十二案委員選國養狗18人擬具臺灣地區道路地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案及審議案一時出現離情會較內政委員會審查宣布完畢報告委員會報告事項第十二案現有臺灣民眾黨黨團提退回程序委員會重新提出請問委員會有異議反對我們進行表決時間一分鐘贊成按贊成反對按反對現在開始"},{"start":17979.62,"end":17996.894,"text":"報院會報告表決結果出席111位贊成60位反對51位贊成者多數再一次呼籲各黨團幹部約束一下黨團的委員請保持一場的肅靜報院會現有民黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行重複表決記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":18075.677,"end":18098.983,"text":"博議會報告重複表決結果出席111位贊成60位反對51位贊成者多數本案退回程序委員會下一案第十三案刑監日韓棋選議資通安全管理法修正草案案一系初見聯席國會交消動委員會審查宣讀完畢各位博議會無異議無異議通過下一案"},{"start":18099.52,"end":18125.11,"text":"第十四案。行政日行期選議學生輔導法不犯條文修正草案二。因此促進聯席委員會教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。官員會報告事項第十四案。現有民進黨黨團提議禁覆二讀與相關提案併案協商。請問院會有無異議?沒有異議。沒有異議我們通過。禁覆二讀。本案禁覆二讀與相關提案併案協商。下一案。"},{"start":18125.745,"end":18144.298,"text":"第十五案 行政院南宋國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單 翁柏宗為委員並為主任委員 陳炳宏為委員並為副主任委員 羅惠文及詹奕蓮均為委員 依次處意見 擬取文化交通教育及文化兩委員會審查 宣讀完畢請讀第一案"},{"start":18155.851,"end":18176.373,"text":"第1案本院委員復婚期的16日擬具公職人員學習報名法部分條文修正草案請審一案。依次促見理行會將內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。前面會針對國民黨黨團針列報告事項第一案現由民進黨黨團提議退回程序委員會重新提出"},{"start":18178.155,"end":18197.086,"text":"國民黨黨團提議禁負二讀由國民黨黨團負責召集協商因為有不同的提議我們循例先處理退回程序委員會重新提出再處理禁負二讀的提議如果一個提議通過我們其他提議就不再處理請問議會對民進黨黨團提議退回有無異議有異議我們進行表決贊成"},{"start":18207.647,"end":18214.943,"text":"贊成民進黨黨團替退回請案贊成反對民進黨的退回請案反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":18289.552,"end":18300.185,"text":"報告院會報告表決結果出席111位贊成51位反對60位贊成者少數報告院會現有民黨黨團體重複表決我們現在進行重複表決進名表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":18392.401,"end":18403.671,"text":"報告總務表決結果出席111位贊成51位反對60位贊成者少數不通過報告宴會現在我們進行國民黨黨團體進覆二讀我們現在贊成國民黨黨團"},{"start":18414.748,"end":18421.033,"text":"贊成國民黨黨團禁服二讀請按贊成反對國民黨黨團請按反對表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":18567.691,"end":18588.94,"text":"好!謝謝!謝謝!謝謝!報告委員會各位請就座要宣布表決結果各位辛苦請就座表決結果出席110位贊成60位反對50位贊成者多數報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們進行重複表決進一表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":18720.215,"end":18740.328,"text":"謝謝各位委員辛苦的報告重複表決結果出席111位贊成60位反對51位贊成者多數本案近乎二讀由國民黨黨團負責召集協商報告委員會張雅琳委員提出聲明剛才表決與民進黨黨團一致意見一致列入公報記錄"},{"start":18742.829,"end":18762.796,"text":"第2、本院國民黨黨團擬具《香港法》部分條文修正草案請審一案。一時初見,您請委員會將內政文獲審查,宣讀完畢。第3、本院委員政添財的16人擬具《公職委員學生報名法第五十四條條文修正草案》請審一案。一時初見,您請委員會將內政文獲審查,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":18767.137,"end":18773.542,"text":"國民黨黨團提出針列報告事項第三案,現有國民黨團人體盡負二讀,並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商。請委員會有異議。反對,我們進行表決針對第三案。"},{"start":18790.208,"end":18796.561,"text":"贊成國民黨黨團提案禁服二讀請按贊成反對請按反對表決時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":18874.186,"end":18886.63,"text":"委員會報告表決結果出席110位贊成59位反對51位本案贊成者多數由本案盡負二讀由國民黨黨團負責召集協商"},{"start":18891.593,"end":18906.366,"text":"第四案本院委員王育敏等17人擬具《憲法訴訟法第四條條文修正草案》及水議案一、四處一屆聯席委員會交互司法及法制委員會審查宣讀完畢。報告委員會現有臺灣民眾黨黨團處理爭議的部分請宣讀第一案。"},{"start":18916.567,"end":18939.521,"text":"第一案。本院臺灣民眾黨黨團擬具《合資反應器設施管制法第六條條文修正草案》請審一案。一事出見,聆請會教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第二案。本院臺灣民眾黨黨團擬具《融資公司法》草案請審一案。一事出見,聆請會教育及財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":18944.298,"end":18947.463,"text":"外匯本次會議報告事項記載於議事錄的順序我們授權議事處來調整現在我們繼續處理原列報告事項請宣讀第二案"},{"start":18956.223,"end":18973.977,"text":"第二案本院委員廖偉湘等19人擬具《身心障礙者權益保障法》不判條文修正草案情審一案。依視處意見,您請回家後社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。依視處意見,您請回家後社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異通過下議案。無異通過下議案。"},{"start":18983.484,"end":19008.309,"text":"第四案。本院委員牛雪婷等18人擬具職業安全衛生法第49條條文修正草案請選一案。議事初見。您請獲交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。第五案。本院委員牛雪婷等19人擬具職業服務法第65條條文修正草案請選一案。議事初見。您請獲交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。"},{"start":19008.849,"end":19017.977,"text":"第六案本院委員劉雪婷等19人擬具性別平等工作法第三十八條及第三十八條之一條文修正草案審水一二。議事處見。議事處見。議事處見。議事處見。議事處見。議事處見。議事處見。議事處見。議事處見。"},{"start":19036.093,"end":19048.002,"text":"第八案本院委員劉雪婷等18人擬具《勞動基準法第八十四條條文修正草案》及國民黨黨團擬具《勞動基準法第八十四條條文修正草案》請審議案。議事處意見,您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。議事處意見,您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19061.773,"end":19083.814,"text":"第十四案。本院委員劉雪婷等21人擬具《中國領袖及高齡者就業促進法第四條條文修正草》擬水案。議事處意見。議請外交、社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第十一案。本院委員劉雪婷等17人擬具《國家公允法》部分條文修正草擬水案。議事處意見。議請外交、內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19086.917,"end":19112.24,"text":"第十二案本院委員陳少銘等16人擬具《保險法》暫定第174條之二及第174條之三條文草案審水案一、四處界理行會交財政委員會審查宣告完畢。第十三案本院委員陳少銘等16人擬具《勞工保險條例第五十八條文修正草案審水案一、四處界理行會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣告完畢。"},{"start":19113.641,"end":19134.509,"text":"第十四案本院委員羅廷偉等20人擬具《勾結中等一項學校午餐緊實教育條例草案請審》一案。議事處意見民主化交際文化委員會審查宣傳併。第十五案本院委員陳永康等26人擬具《國家安全戰略法草案請審》一案。議事處意見民主化交際文化委員會審查宣傳併。"},{"start":19138.01,"end":19159.484,"text":"第16案。本院委員勞會員等20人擬具《證券投資信託及顧問法第四十條條文修正草案》請審議案。議事處意見領行委會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第17案。本院委員吳思雅、吳董十七人擬具《輕重民權與保障法》草案請審議案。議事處意見領行委會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19160.547,"end":19164.135,"text":"報院會報告事項第17項是第17案現有民進黨黨團提議禁服二讀與相關提案併案協商請問院會有異議"},{"start":19171.633,"end":19194.677,"text":"沒有異議。通過。下一案。第18案。本院委員吳思瑤、吳董事長寫展擬具《學生福同堡不犯台灣書證》曾往前審議案。一期初見。您請問何家屋教育及文化委員會審查。宣討完畢。報告院會報告四項。第18案。現有民進黨黨團提盡附二讀與相關提案併案協商。請問院會有異議。沒有異議。通過。下一案。"},{"start":19195.157,"end":19219.163,"text":"第十九案本院委員份允等17人擬具《新興教育獎學與保障法第五十三條條文修正草案》請審議案。因事出現,理事委員會加入社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第二十二本院委員林淑芬等19人擬具《性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案》請審議案。因事出現,理事委員會加入社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19220.703,"end":19230.535,"text":"第21案北越園黃建豪等19人擬具《災難因管制法》第26條及第28條條文修正草案審選一案。議事處意見明顯會將社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢。第22案"},{"start":19235.942,"end":19255.005,"text":"本院委員陳培宇等17人擬具《清廉金門法草案》請審一案。議事處意見理情和教育及文化委員會審查。宣布完畢。第23案本院委員張雅琳等17人擬具《實踐無殘情與實踐運法草案》請審一案。議事處意見理情和教育及文化委員會審查。宣布完畢。"},{"start":19255.746,"end":19274.439,"text":"第24案。本院委員業委員職等19人擬具《性侵害犯罪法》第五十二條條文修正草案審查委員王育敏等19人擬具《性侵害犯罪法》第五十二條條文修正草案審查委員王育敏等19人擬具《性侵害犯罪法》第五十二條條文修正草案審查委員王育敏等19人擬具《性侵害犯罪法》第五十二條條文修正草案審查委員王育敏等19人擬具"},{"start":19284.141,"end":19286.062,"text":"第二十六案第二十七案第二十七案"},{"start":19314.742,"end":19333.683,"text":"二、國民黨黨團提議禁復二讀與相關提案併案協商。因為有不同的提議,我們循例先處理退回程序委員會重新提出部分,再處理禁復二讀的提議。如果一個提案通過,其他的議案我們就不再進行處理。請問院會,"},{"start":19335.605,"end":19351.291,"text":"對民進黨黨團提退回有無異議?有異議我們現在進行表決贊成民進黨黨團所提退回程序委員會請按贊成反對民進黨黨團提請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":19425.352,"end":19425.653,"text":"時間一分鐘,現在開始"},{"start":19539.656,"end":19561.184,"text":"報告委員會宣布重複表決結果出席109位贊成51位反對58位贊成者少數不通過報告委員會現有國民黨黨團提議晉覆二讀我們與相關提案並按協商我們要進行表決現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":19641.97,"end":19649.836,"text":"報院會報告表決結果出席109位贊成58位反對51位贊成者多數報院會現有民進黨黨團體重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成國民黨提案請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":19737.998,"end":19753.079,"text":"法院會重複表決結果出席109位贊成58人反對51人贊成者多數國民黨黨團提議本案禁覆二讀我們就與相關提案併案協商下一案"},{"start":19753.888,"end":19774.363,"text":"第28案本院委員邱氏偉等需求人擬具新基進移民法草案請審一案。議事處意見擬情會交經濟內專事會福利及衛生環境三委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第29案本院委員吳思瑤擬撤回檢定之青年基本法草案案。議事處意見擬情會同意撤回。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19776.064,"end":19800.658,"text":"第三十二本院委員陳秀寶擬撤回前提之恩學校管理機器所屬四令學校教職員退休輔助離職資金條例第八條條文修正草案案一系促見擬情會同意撤回宣言完畢。第三十一二本院委員陳秀寶擬撤回前提之恩往年農民福利津貼專行條例第四條條文修正草案案一系促見擬情會同意撤回宣言完畢。"},{"start":19802.099,"end":19812.375,"text":"第32案本院委員王定宇擬稱回前提之《老年農民福利紀念順行條例第四條條文修正草案案》一事促進。擬情委會同意稱回。宣言迴避。"},{"start":19813.82,"end":19833.239,"text":"第三十三、二、本院委員邱毅英擬撤回前提之《癌症防治法第十六條條文修正草案》案一事出現,擬情委會同意撤回,宣讀完畢。第三十四、二、本院委員范雲擬撤回前提之《蘇文新聞發展與民主任性法》草案案一事出現,擬情委會同意撤回,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19834.881,"end":19856.515,"text":"第三十五二本院委員會與您撤回前提之《新年基本法》草案二一事出現,您請回同意撤回。宣言完畢。第三十六二本院委員會與您撤回前提之《學校法案及其所屬私立學校教職員退休服務領域諮詮條例第八條條文修正草案二一事出現,您請回同意撤回。宣言完畢。"},{"start":19857.836,"end":19877.381,"text":"第三十七案北苑園鄰居縣擬撤回前提之《保年農民福利津貼專行條例第四條條文修正草案案》一事出現,擬起委會同意撤回,宣讀完畢。第三十八案北苑園鄰居縣擬撤回前提之《青年基本法》草案案一事出現,擬起委會同意撤回,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19877.941,"end":19879.782,"text":"五、一通過下案五、一通過下案五、一通過下案"},{"start":19899.574,"end":19918.879,"text":"第41案本院委員楊佑寧撤回前年居勞工保險條例第66條及第69條條文修正草案案一事促見寧行委會同意撤回。宣布完畢。第42案本院委員林月琴寧撤回前年居青年基本法草案案一事促見寧行委會同意撤回。宣布完畢。"},{"start":19920.379,"end":19941.59,"text":"第四十三日本院委員陳素月擬撤回前年之國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案案一事促見擬請委員會同意撤回。宣讀完畢。第四十四日本院委員陳素月擬撤回前年之老年農民福利今天專制條例第四條條文修正草案案一事促見擬請委員會同意撤回。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":19943.211,"end":19967.42,"text":"第45案本院委員陳蘇悅擬撤回前提之廢紙硬貨稅法案一事出現,擬請回同意撤回。宣讀完畢。違通過下一案。第46案本院委員吳秉瑞擬撤回前提之公職原稅局報名法部分條文修正草案案一事出現,擬請回同意撤回。宣讀完畢。報告院會報告事項第46案吳秉瑞委員撤回提案。請問院會有異議?有異議。"},{"start":19974.006,"end":19974.214,"text":"有意"},{"start":20003.075,"end":20004.54,"text":"請黨團幹部再一次約束保持宿敬。"},{"start":20007.81,"end":20030.917,"text":"第47案本院委員蘇曉慧寧撤回前提之《安全防治法》修正草案案。一期促進,寧行會同意撤回。宣讀完畢。第48案本院委員陳冠廷寧撤回前提之《學校訪人及其所屬私立學校教育員退休輔學離職之前條例》地報導等文修正草案案。一期促進,寧行會同意撤回。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20032.597,"end":20052.473,"text":"第四十九案、北若元、蔡英雲擬秤回前提之國民年金法部分條文修正草案案。一事促見、擬情會同意秤回。宣讀完畢。第五十二、北若元、蔡英雲擬秤回前提之運動產業發展條例第26條之二條文修正草案案。一事促見、擬情會同意秤回。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20054.014,"end":20073.667,"text":"第五十一、二、北約委員陳培韻已撤回前年居民基本法草案案。依稀處理屆年期五會同意撤回。宣讀完畢。第五十二、二、行政銀行為修正醫療、榮民醫療作業基金收支保管及運用辦法第五條條文依稀處理屆年期五會交貨交集股方委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20075.228,"end":20086.803,"text":"第五十三日,勤進院航文修正國立台灣大學附身醫院作業緊急措施保管及醫院頒發第四條、第五條及第七條條文一式推薦民情和教育局的話語委員會。續讀完畢。第五十四日,"},{"start":20090.828,"end":20106.34,"text":"其中一項為中華民國114年5月29日修正公務之道路交通管理處罰條例第七條之一第六十三條及第六十三條之二條文定次113年6月30日施行。議事處議見您請和交交通委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20107.941,"end":20128.837,"text":"第五十五案,內政部海外修正國家住宅及都市更新中心,申請戶籍及土地登記自來辦法第二條及第三條條文,依次促進民情華僑內政委員會。宣讀完畢。第五十六案,內政部海外修正租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例,涉行細則第三條之一條文,依次促進民情華僑內政委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20132.379,"end":20149.945,"text":"第五十七案。內政部函宋槍炮彈藥燒傷令認定基準。議事處意見引起國家內政委員會。宣讀完畢。第五十八案。內政部函宋修正司法人買售公住宅使用之房屋需求辦法第四條、第十四條及第十六條條文。議事處意見引起國家內政委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20153.826,"end":20170.982,"text":"第五十九案、內政部行為修正內政部商訪署編制表一系促進年輕文化交流司法及法徵內政兩委員會宣讀完畢。第六十案、各家委員會行為修正、各家委員會各家文化發展中心編制表一系促進年輕文化交流司法及法徵內政兩委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20174.085,"end":20194.221,"text":"第61案、原住民組委員會含文修正、原住民組委員會編織表、議事書件、聯邦司法及法律內政、聯務委員會宣讀完畢。第62案、中央選舉委員會含文修正、中央選舉委員會編織表、編制113.5月1日生效、議事書件、聯邦司法及法律內政、聯務委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20199.977,"end":20213.102,"text":"第六十三案中央選舉委員會韓文修正公職人員報免案提議聯署檢查隊作業辦法第六條、第十四條條文及第十八條附室七至附室八十三。議事處意見臨時會交內政委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20221.966,"end":20240.497,"text":"第六十四二,仇務委員會行為修正。仇務委員會編劇表編自114年1月1日生效。一線出現聯邦國家司法及法治國家及國防委員會。宣讀完畢。第六十五二,外政部行為修正護照申請及合法頒發部分談完。一線出現聯邦國家國際及國防委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20244.079,"end":20261.903,"text":"第六十六案。經濟幕海中地震能探根與開發學及管理辦法依次促進立行華僑經濟委員會。宣讀完畢。第六十七案。經濟幕海維修正度量和規範收費標準第一條第二十九條條文及第二十八條副標九依次促進立行華僑經濟委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20265.565,"end":20274.772,"text":"第六十八日經濟部委員會修正應施檢驗兒童用床邊護膽雙面具相關檢驗規定,依施處議院理事會及經濟委員會宣讀完畢。第六十九日經濟部委員會廢止空業權展現申請案,因空業法第二十七條規定進行補回後,其損失及範圍認定標準,依施處議院理事會及經濟委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20291.385,"end":20320.725,"text":"第七十二、經濟部海外修正臺新經濟夥伴協定原産地順秘書相關事項之機關名稱：一、四初屆例行匯交經濟委員會：宣讀完畢。第七十一、二、經濟部海外修正電熱水平容許耗用能源基準與能源效率分級標示實相風化及解消方式第六點附圖一及主備型電熱水器容許耗用能源基準與能源效率分級標示實相風化及解消方式第六點附圖一。"},{"start":20321.585,"end":20326.727,"text":"第七十二案第七十二案第七十三案第七十三案"},{"start":20350.453,"end":20367.456,"text":"第七十四、二、農業部行為修正農業天然災害救助本法第六條條文一事促進理情環境經濟委員會宣讀完畢。第七十五、二、農業部行為修正農業部農田水利署南投管理處農田水利設施範圍一事促進理情環境經濟委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20377.659,"end":20401.23,"text":"第七十六案奴役部海外修正原遙漁業條例第十七條第一項所定與我國相互執行公海等檢視國家及指定船舶一事促見您請回交經濟委員會宣讀完畢第七十七案奴役部海總能衣部農田水利署本基管理處農田水利事業區域內關懷制度一事促見您請回交經濟委員會宣讀完畢"},{"start":20402.751,"end":20424.192,"text":"第七十八案 農業部涵送農業部農田水利署七星管理處農田水利事業區域內灌溉制度一系促進聯邦交通基金委員會 宣讀完畢第七十九案 農業部涵送農業部農田水利署苗栗管理處農田水利事業區域內灌溉制度一系促進聯邦交通基金委員會 宣讀完畢"},{"start":20425.874,"end":20448.207,"text":"第八十二、農業部韓綜、農業部農田水利署、農工管理署、農田水利事業區域內灌溉制度、一系處議界、聯邦交、經濟委員會、宣讀完畢第八十一、二、農業部韓綜、農業部農田水利署、彰化管理署、農田水利事業區域內灌溉制度、一系處議界、聯邦交、經濟委員會、宣讀完畢"},{"start":20449.929,"end":20466.157,"text":"第八十二案 農業部喊完行政院農業委員會 農田水利署新竹管理處 農田水利事業區域名稱修正為農業部農田水利署新竹管理處 農田水利事業區域並修正事業區域 議事促見您請回交經濟委員會 宣讀完畢"},{"start":20468.018,"end":20481.771,"text":"第八十三、二財政部罕為不動產平價五元會組織規程名稱修正為不動產平價五元會組織及運作辦法並修正條文。議事處見您請回交司法及法制財政兩五元會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20483.453,"end":20508.518,"text":"第八十四案財政部函宋公告新增個人以文化專業產業發展法第十七條之二規定,自綜合所得總額中解除資金額應計入個人基本所得額。議事處意見臨時回交財政委員會。宣讀完畢。第八十五案財政部函宋修正業者使用自備封條許可及管理辦法。議事處意見臨時回交財政委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20509.918,"end":20525.35,"text":"第86案財政外交委修正、貨證、貨櫃集散證、保証、倉庫、物流、裝飾及海關指定業者實施自主管理辦法部分條文。依稀促見、擬情報告交財政委員會。宣讀完畢。依稀促見、擬情報告交財政委員會。宣讀完畢。依稀促見、擬情報告交財政委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20536.798,"end":20561.46,"text":"第八十八案、金融監督管理委員會航運修正、證券商、壽東買賣外國有價證券管理規則第23條條文一、四、初一屆年輕文化交財政委員會宣讀完畢。第八十九案、金融監督管理委員會航運修正、保險業辦理國外投資管理辦法部分條文及第十三條之二、附表一、附件一、四、初一屆年輕文化交財政委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20561.98,"end":20588.227,"text":"午一通過下議案。第九十二前教育主席總書函威修正前教育主席總書提供政府資訊收費標準第二條第四條條文及第四條附表一系初見年輕文化教育及文化委員會宣讀完畢。午一通過下議案。第九十一案教育部涵送國民教育及特殊教育輔導團與中心組織運作辦公一系初見年輕文化教育及文化委員會宣讀完畢。午一通過下議案。"},{"start":20588.727,"end":20608.827,"text":"第九十二案,舊一部韓森國民小學及國民中學校長博士院實施調查處理辦法,依稀處理件您請回家屋教育界文化委員會,宣讀完畢。第九十三案,文化部海文修正文化業務正面服務角力辦法第八條條文依稀處理件您請回家屋教育界文化委員會,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20610.709,"end":20637.803,"text":"第九十四案、文化部函宋本院修正文化資產保存法第四十一條及第九十九條條文通過附帶決議第1項是書面報告一時出現,請回家歐交集文化委員會。宣讀完畢。議議通過。下一案。第九十五案、文化部函宋本院修正文化資產保存法第四十一條及第九十九條條文通過附帶決議第2項是書面報告一時出現,請回家歐交集文化委員會。宣讀完畢。議議通過。下一案。"},{"start":20638.123,"end":20662.828,"text":"第九十六日文化幕還送本院修正文化資產保存法第四十一條及第九十九條條文通過負擔決第三項之書面報告一事促進年輕文化教育及文化委員會宣讀完畢無疑通過下議案第九十七日國家科學及技術委員會行為修正科學園區保障義務管理辦法部分條文一事促進年輕文化教育及文化委員會宣讀完畢無疑通過下議案"},{"start":20663.208,"end":20681.555,"text":"第九十八日河南安全委員會和文憲經院原子能委員會專業獎賞頒給辦法明確修正為河南安全委員會專業獎賞頒給辦法必修正第一條、第二條、第七條條文及第四條副表二、第六條副表三,依次促進理情和教育及文化委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20683.416,"end":20701.871,"text":"第九十九二、州東部海外修正車輛行駛安全宣言管理一般法第十四條附表一、四處意見聯邦交通委員會宣讀完畢。第一百二、州東部海外修正鐵路修建養護規則第三十條條文一、四處意見聯邦交通委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20703.652,"end":20723.108,"text":"第10一案：交通部海湾修正汽车运输者管理规则第一条第44条之五及第44条之六條文一系促建理情和交交通委員會：宣讀完畢。第10二案：交通部海湾交通部觀光局日願和国家风景区管理署管有草原禁止事項名稱修正為"},{"start":20723.829,"end":20736.317,"text":"交通部觀光署、日月潭國家風景區管理處管有潮域進取事項並修正第一點規定。議事會見引起國家交通委員會宣讀完畢。議事會見引起國家交通委員會宣讀完畢。議事會見引起國家交通委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20754.189,"end":20779.742,"text":"第1042 交通部海外修正、江東部觀光署、東北角及宜蘭海岸國家風景區管理處編制表等13項編制表一、四處意見您請回交司法及法治、交通兩委員會。宣讀完畢。第1052 數位發展部海外修正、數位發展部主管財產法人、管理監督作業辦保第四條、第六條及第十一條條文一、四處意見您請回交交通委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20780.322,"end":20805.448,"text":"報告委員會本案由臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查本案交交通委員會審查。下一頁。第1062除了發展部國家通訊籌募委員會行為,定性號碼合併及管理辦法名稱修正為定性號碼順序及合併辦法並修正條文,依次促進例行會交交通委員會。宣讀完畢。報告委員會本案由臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查本案交交通委員會審查。"},{"start":20808.84,"end":20826.601,"text":"報告併案一、零、七、二國家通訊宣布委員會海外修正通訊宣布內財困法人設立許可及監督辦法第一條、第五條、最一條文集、第六條、附件一、一、四、四、五、六、七、八、九、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十"},{"start":20828.376,"end":20850.378,"text":"第108日司法院和維修正各級行政法院辦案期限規則第五條及第六條條文一、四、七、八、九、四百七法治委員會宣讀完畢。第109日司法院和維修正智慧財產及商業法院辦理智慧財產案件期限規則部分條文一、四、七、八、九、四百七法治委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20852.298,"end":20881.534,"text":"第1102司法院行為修正法院辦理民事事件提解費用徵收標準第六條條文一時初一屆禮請國會加入司法及法事委員會。宣告完畢。第1112考試院行為修正未具理論職務任用資格者取得法官檢察官領選資格考試辦法一時初一屆禮請國會加入司法及法事委員會。宣告完畢。第112案考試院行為檢察官職務等接票"},{"start":20882.354,"end":20903.547,"text":"將中央警察修逢海岸水防機關學校職務等級表之六,內政部警政署保安警察各總隊明確修正為警察官職務等級表,將中央警察修逢海洋委員會及海岸水防機關學校職務等級表之六,內政部警政署保安警察各總隊並修正該表,依序促見,您請獲交司法企劃事務委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20908.083,"end":20919.541,"text":"第11、3、2勞動部海外修正勞動部主管職工福利委員會財團法人傳信經營規範指導原則第七點規定一、四、初一屆理性和教育社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢"},{"start":20920.373,"end":20940.948,"text":"午一通過下議案。第1、1、4、2,衛生福利部海關修正,生性障礙者鑑定作業辦法,定幫條附表二項,講述議事處理件,領取文化交流社會福利及衛生環境委員會,宣布完畢。午一通過下議案。第1、1、5、2,衛生福利部海關修正,食品竊取容器包裝檢驗方法,塑膠面膜針對"},{"start":20942.869,"end":20947.991,"text":"致品質檢驗。議事初見。您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。議事初見。您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":20962.684,"end":20987.039,"text":"第1、7、2衛生福利部海外修正、食品及相關產品標示宣傳廣告涉及不實荒商、醫生誤解或醫療受難認定轉折第四條附件二一、四處理件引起外交、社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢。第1、8、2衛生福利部海外修正救護技術人管理辦法一、四處理件引起外交、社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢。"},{"start":20988.74,"end":21011.62,"text":"第1、1、9、2衛生福利部海外修正食品添加物規格檢驗方法使用藍色二號衣飾出現離情化交通社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢。第1、2、0、2衛生福利部海外修正食品添加物規格檢驗方法來由天門東森納衣飾出現離情化交通社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢。"},{"start":21012.901,"end":21041.209,"text":"第1、2、1案衛生福利部海關水品添加物規格檢驗方法L-α-NG-E-5酸凌春修正為水品添加物規格檢驗方法L-α-NG-E-5酸並修正規定一事促進理性化交通社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢。第1、2、2案衛生福利部海關修正需要罕見疾病防治及藥物防治藥物品效一事促進理性化交通社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21041.829,"end":21047.667,"text":"報告委員會本案由國民黨黨團提議改交審查本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。"},{"start":21049.397,"end":21069.521,"text":"第12、3、2衛生福利部海灣修正藥品廣告審查費收費標準。議事處意見您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。議事處意見您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。議事處意見您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。議事處意見您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。議事處意見您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。議事處意見您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21076.542,"end":21100.023,"text":"第1、2、5案衛生福利部函送食品添加物約管檢驗方法療肉鹼、癌、肉酸。議事初見理事會交由社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣布完畢。第1、2、6案衛生福利部函送醫療器材管理法第34條必要依賴醫療器材品項清單。議事初見理事會交由社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣布完畢。"},{"start":21101.644,"end":21122.402,"text":"第1、2、7案衛生福利部長維修正激高水平申請許可頒報一系促進民情會及社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢。無異通過。下一案。對不起。更正。這是127嘛。本案由國民黨黨團提議改交審查本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。下一案。"},{"start":21122.947,"end":21134.361,"text":"第1、2、8、2衛生福利部函送本院修正性侵害犯罪防治法通過復旦決議第一項決定上次書面報告。議事處理屆理性壞交、社會福利及衛生環境司法及法治聯會委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21138.653,"end":21152.944,"text":"第1、2、9、2衛生福利部函送本院修正兒童及少年性過去防事條例部分條文通過負擔權益第一項及第二項之書面報告。衛生署建議請外交、社會福利及衛生環境司法及法治兩委員會宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21155.001,"end":21170.939,"text":"第1302衛生福利部海外修正衛生福利部醫療基隆醫院編制表等26項編制表並自中華民國112年11月26日生效。議事處理監理請換交司法及法律社會福利及衛生環境兩委員會宣讀外幣。"},{"start":21173.962,"end":21198.175,"text":"第13、12、衛生福利部海外修正、衛生福利部處規審第五條條文及衛生福利部編制表、議事處意見、聯席文化交流司法及華盛順社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。第13、22、環境部海外修正、公通性訓練廢棄物、自利用管理辦法第四條附表、議事處意見、聯席文化交流社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21198.775,"end":21220.897,"text":"無疑通過下一案。第133案。環境部海外修正公民營業費侵入簽署處理機構許可管理辦法第16條12、第16條13及第16條14條文。議事處意見。您請回交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。報議院會本案由國民黨黨團提改交審查。本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。下一案。"},{"start":21221.516,"end":21239.028,"text":"第一、三、四、二、環境部法院行政部環境保護署及所屬各機關公務人員交代條例適應性責並順序修正為環境部及所屬各機關各公務人員交代條例適應性責並修正條文。議事處意見您請獲交社會福利及衛生環境委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21240.669,"end":21264.504,"text":"第13、5案。環境部監禁門連全部交通部農業部行為廢止。無限系體階段管制目標及管制方式作業準則。依視處意見,擬起文化交通、社會福利及衛生環境、經濟、交通、內政、思維委員會。宣讀完畢。依視處意見,擬起文化交通、社會福利及衛生環境、經濟、交通、內政、思維委員會。宣讀完畢。依視處意見,擬起文化交通、社會福利及衛生環境、經濟、交通、內政、思維委員會。宣讀完畢。依視處意見,擬起文化交通、社會"},{"start":21270.985,"end":21277.549,"text":"報告委員會第137案到432案請依序宣讀其中第149案、154到160案、197案、400案、418案、421案、423案國民黨黨團提議改交審查。第138、139、145到148、151到153"},{"start":21300.017,"end":21326.808,"text":"一百七十七到一百八一百八三到一百八十六一百九十到一百九十六一九八一九九三二八到三三一三三四三九四三九六到三九八四百一十八案台灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查宣讀之後以上提案均改交相關委會審查區議案均照議事處意見通過"},{"start":21329.15,"end":21333.016,"text":"請問院會有異議?沒有異議,我們宣讀後通過。請宣讀。"},{"start":21334.52,"end":21358.371,"text":"第137案及第139案內全部第140案及第144海洋委員會第145案及第146案原住民族委員會第147案及第148案客家委員會第149案及第153案大陸委員會第154案及第155案外交部第156案及第160案國防部第161案及第170案經濟部第171案及第172案農業部第173案及第174案國家發展委員會"},{"start":21362.153,"end":21388.203,"text":"第17五案及第17六案習近平主席總署第17七案及第17八案財政部第17九案及第18零案教育部第18一案及第18二案文化部第18三案國立國防博物院第18四案及第18五案國家科學及技術委員會第18六案及第19零案交通部第19一案及第19三案數位發展部第19四案國家多數指導部委員會第19五案司法院"},{"start":21389.003,"end":21411.4,"text":"第196案及第197案衛生福利部、第198案環境部、第199案勞動部、第200案交通部、第201案及第213案行政院、第214案及第249案內政部、第250案及第256案原住民組委員會、第257案及第258案中央學組委員會、第259案及第279案國防部、第280案及第285案國軍退出官兵輔導委員會、第860案及第287案強武委員會。"},{"start":21417.628,"end":21444,"text":"第二、八、八案具體二具體三、二、七案奴役部第三、二、八案具體三、三、七案財政部第三、三、八案具體三、四、七案金融監督管理委員會第三、四、八案具體三、五、六案教育部第三、五、七案具體三、七、三案文化部第三、七、四案具體三、八、一案國家科學及技術委員會第三、八、二案具體三、八、八案交通部第三、八、九案具體三、九、三案數位發展部"},{"start":21444.56,"end":21470.854,"text":"第三九四案至第三九七案國家通訊傳播委員會第三九八案行政院公共工程委員會第三九九案至第四三二案衛生福利部刊文一百十三年度相關預算一百十二年度相關預算中央政府以後強化經濟與社會熱性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算一百十三年度中央政府總預算等預算權益分別請送相關報告宣討完畢"},{"start":21472.503,"end":21498.266,"text":"法院會第433案以下,請一併宣讀。宣讀後均准予被查。請宣讀。第433案為本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會函委員會將會審查相關期券命令,已於立法院職權行使法第六十條所定的審查期限。職權事項和職權答覆部分,職權函所本院領委署分等所提職權支出面答覆共六件。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21507.464,"end":21525.03,"text":"委員會在進行討論事項之前,我們先處理黨團至各委員會抽出禁服二讀之提議,並截止收案。委員會現在處理國民黨黨團提供六案,請議事人員宣讀第一案提議內容。委員國民黨黨團"},{"start":21527.847,"end":21550.536,"text":"針對本第26次會議,盡情將委員盧廷偉等16人擬具以《宣傳保育法第十九條條文修正草案》案在經濟委會處處信服惡毒並與相關提案並案協商是否有動盡情公決。宣讀完畢。法院會請問,院會對本案有異議?沒有異議,我們通過。好,我們請議事人員宣讀第二案。"},{"start":21553.961,"end":21575.774,"text":"委員國民黨黨團針對本地22次會議盡情將委員陳昌明等17人擬具《第一頁法第四十九條條文修正草案》自經濟委會初出肌膚惡毒並與相關提案並按寫收是否有道盡情公決?宣讀完畢請問院會對本案有無異議?沒有異議?好,沒有異議,我們照案通過下一案"},{"start":21577.922,"end":21583.894,"text":"國民黨黨團替第三案撤回不予處理。請議事人員宣讀第四案。"},{"start":21584.537,"end":21610.68,"text":"本院國民黨黨團針對本地22次會議盡情將委員高清素美等23人擬具公職委員順序報名法第七十條、第七十一條及第七十三條條文修正草案案委員賺天才等19人擬具公職委員順序報名法第十七條條文修正草案案等二案自委會抽出禁服惡毒並與相關提案平安協商事後有當盡情公決。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21611.345,"end":21634.252,"text":"報告委員會請問對本案有無異議?有異有異我們進行表決報告委員會針對本案民進黨黨團要求記名表決贊成國民黨黨團體請按贊成反對國民黨黨團體請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":21714.11,"end":21741.971,"text":"報告委員會報告表決結果出席104位贊成54位反對50位本案贊成者多數近乎二讀通過我們現在提案照國民黨黨團提出通過報告委員會第五案國民黨黨團提第五案撤回不予處理報告委員會請議事人員宣讀第六案提議內容"},{"start":21743.566,"end":21771.314,"text":"委員國民黨黨團針對本地22次會議近期將委員徐玉珍等21人、委員羅廷威等22人分別擬具這7份罪違反《法律條例》草案等二案自委會出書寄附二讀並與相關提案並要協商是否勞動基準請公決宣讀完畢全院會對本案有無異議沒有異議我們通過報告委員會現在處理民進黨黨團提議一案請議事人員宣讀內容"},{"start":21772.216,"end":21789.522,"text":"本院民進黨黨團擬情願會將委員王美慧等18人擬具《詐欺犯罪危害方式條例草案》委員蘇曉慧等27人擬具《詐欺犯罪危害方式條例草案》委員蔡宇等18人擬具《詐欺犯罪危害方式條例草案》"},{"start":21790.382,"end":21814.931,"text":"委員蔡宇等18人擬具《通訊保障及監察法》覆案條文修正草案委員朱夏敏等18人擬具《通訊保障及監察法》第三條之一、第十一條之一及第十八條之一條文修正草案案親自委會抽出進付二讀並與相關提案併案審商是否來當進行公決。宣讀完畢相關議案對本案有異議沒有異議我們就通過"},{"start":21816.485,"end":21842.378,"text":"報院會中嘉賓委員聲明對剛才表決與民進黨黨團意見一致,列入公報記錄。報院會現在處理臺灣民眾黨黨團提議案,請議事人員宣讀提議內容。本院臺灣民眾黨黨團針對第11屆第1會期第22次會議,也請將效力議案自司法及法治委員會抽出進一步的讀與相關提案並要寫書,是否有道進行公決。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":21846.355,"end":21859.022,"text":"委員會對台灣民眾黨黨團提議有無異議?沒有異議?我們照案通過。報告委員會我們現在下午3點半繼續開會進行討論事項。另外請各黨團幹部下午4點在紅樓302會議室進行協商。現在休息。"},{"start":25324.819,"end":25334.546,"text":"報院會現在繼續開會進行討論事項第一案詐欺犯罪危害防治條例草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":25336.004,"end":25355.16,"text":"本院立政委員會於113年6月5日召開全英委員會議審查本案由吳兆景委員起名擔任主席,除邀請提案委員說明提案要旨並邀請相關經關列席報告並備諮詢。於報告及詢談完畢,詢及進行主條審查,與會員與聽取說明並經準密討論及審慎延伸後將全案併案審查完畢。"},{"start":25363.247,"end":25371.611,"text":"令通過附帶學藝五項全面併案審查完略禮具審查報告提報約會討論約會討論前需請黨團先生約會討論時由吳趙吉委員起名補充說明宣讀完畢請趙吉委員、吳委員起名補充說明"},{"start":25383.482,"end":25408.751,"text":"無補充說明本案經審查會議決議需交由黨團協商令委員何新淳等提案經第一會期第十八次會議決定盡負二讀與相關提案併案審查委員王美惠等委員徐宇貞等委員羅廷緯等委員蘇巧惠等委員蔡易瑜等分別提案經本次會議決定"},{"start":25409.831,"end":25424.184,"text":"自委員會抽出淨富二讀與相關提案併案協商。報告委員會本案現已完成協商。請宣讀協商結論。立法院黨團協商結論時間113年6月28日星期五上午9時15分至10時16分"},{"start":25431.488,"end":25457.964,"text":"113年7月9日星期二上午下午26分至30時18分。113年7月11日星期四上午10時31分至11時52分。地點紅樓302會議室。議場三樓會議室。協商主題。詐欺犯罪危害防制條例查案。協商結論。一、協商通過。一、照行政院提案通過第八條、第十一條、第十二條、第十三條、第五十七條。二、"},{"start":25458.644,"end":25482.908,"text":"照協商條文通過第24條、第25條、第44條、第49條如附件。二、通過附帶決議三項如附件。三、其餘均照審查會審查結果通過,其中第二項附帶決議不予處理。四、委員提案及相關修正動議均列入紀錄刊登公報。五、補充立法說明如附件。六、"},{"start":25483.697,"end":25498.79,"text":"各黨團同意委員王美惠等、委員徐宇貞等、委員羅廷輝等、委員蘇喬惠等、委員蔡依瑜等分別索擬詐欺犯罪危害防制條例第草案等5案。"},{"start":25499.51,"end":25523.046,"text":"從委員會抽出近乎二讀與相關提案併案在本次協商會議處理協商主持人韓國瑜、江啟臣協商代表傅坤祺、洪孟凱、林思明、徐宇甄、牛許婷、丁學忠、高金素棉、鄭天才、張志倫、黃建斌、羅志強、柯建銘、吳思堯、莊瑞雄、鍾嘉斌、沈伯陽、王美惠、吳祺銘、張宏祿、李博毅、蘇巧惠"},{"start":25524.424,"end":25551.395,"text":"黃國昌、黃三三、吳春城、麥玉珍、徐欣穎、黃潔、徐曉欣、李燕秀宣讀完畢。請問院會對以上協商結論有無異議。無異議本案逐條討論時盡應協商結論處理。詐欺犯罪危害防治條例草案請宣讀名稱。詐欺犯罪危害防治條例宣讀完畢。"},{"start":25552.56,"end":25580.678,"text":"照審查會名稱通過第一條第一章總則第一章第一章總則宣讀完畢照審查會章名通過第一條第一條為防治及打擊詐騙危害預防與遏止不當利用金融電信及網路從事詐欺犯罪並保護被害人保障人民權益特制定本條例宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第二條"},{"start":25582.076,"end":25607.519,"text":"第二條本條例用詞定義如下一、詐欺犯罪指向列個目之罪一、犯刑法第339條之四之罪二、犯第43條或第44條之罪三、犯與前額目有裁判上一罪關係之其他犯罪二、金融機構指起前防治法第五條第一項規定之機構三、提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員"},{"start":25608.38,"end":25628.834,"text":"只依《洗錢防治法》第五條第四項規定指令之提供虛擬資產服務事業或人員四、電信事業指電信管理法第三條第一項第一款規定之電信事業五、網路廣告平台業者指透過網際網路平台或版位提供刊登或推播廣告之服務並收取代價"},{"start":25631.055,"end":25649.427,"text":"且為民眾接觸之廣告最終端網路平臺業者。厲、第三方支付服務業者只非屬電子支付機構管理條例所生電子支付機構提供代理收戶網路使之交易環向服務之業者其電商業者"},{"start":25649.927,"end":25661.371,"text":"只主要從事網禁網路方式零售商品或經營網禁網路平臺提供他人零售商品之業者八、網路連線遊戲業者只營運網路連線遊戲服務之業者及發行線上遊戲點數專門用以兌換網路連線遊戲服務或商品之發行人宣討完畢。照審查會條文通過第三條"},{"start":25675.185,"end":25698.744,"text":"第三條本條例所稱主管機關在中央委內政部在指向市委指向市政府在縣市委縣市政府主管機關與目的事業主管機關應就本條例規定事項及防制詐欺犯罪之需要主動規劃所需之預防及宣導措施對涉及相關機關之防制業務並應全力配合另辦理下列事項。一、中央主管機關"},{"start":25699.645,"end":25723.677,"text":"防制詐欺犯罪政策法規與方案之研究規劃定定及解釋其他統籌及督導防制詐欺犯罪業務等相關事宜。二、金融主管機關防制詐欺犯罪相關金融管理措施之規劃推動執行及監督。三、電信主管機關防制詐欺犯罪相關電信管理措施之規劃推動執行及監督。"},{"start":25724.717,"end":25741.765,"text":"四、數位經濟相關產業主管機關防治詐欺犯罪相關之網路廣告平台第三方支付服務電商網路連線遊戲管理措施之規劃推動執行及監督五、法務主管機關詐欺犯罪之偵查執行"},{"start":25742.305,"end":25763.237,"text":"在犯意致及被害人保護等刑事司法相關事宜六、其他防治上期犯罪工作由相關目的事業主管及官一職權辦理。前項各款事項涉及各機關構之職長或業務時,各級政府機關構應配合辦理。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第四條"},{"start":25764.11,"end":25786.332,"text":"第四條主管機關及各相關目的事業主管機關得以補助獎勵或輔導方式推動下列事項一、詐欺防治教育宣導二、詐欺防治技術輔導三、促進產業學術及研究機構合作詐欺防治四、鼓勵投入詐欺防治人才培育五、充裕詐欺防治人才資源"},{"start":25786.912,"end":25813.732,"text":"六、鼓勵或協助運用適當技術或新興科技研發強化炸氣防治措施其其他促進炸氣防治及相關研究發展之事項形象補助教練或輔導之對象資格條件、審核基準申請程序、核定機關及其他相關事項之變法由主管機關及各相關目的事業主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第五條"},{"start":25814.448,"end":25833.635,"text":"第五條主管機關及各目的事業主管機關應結合產業或民間團體積極辦理刷新犯罪制預防、宣導、偵查及保護等相關業務並與各國政府或國際非政府組織進行各項合作事宜。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第六條"},{"start":25834.431,"end":25858.856,"text":"第六條,主管機關各目的事業主管機關與第二條第二管制第八管制機構事業及業者應定期舉辦教育訓練,加強其人員防治詐欺犯罪之意識。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第二章。第二章救援防詐機制。宣讀完畢。照審查會章名通過第一條。第一節。"},{"start":25862.608,"end":25881.743,"text":"第一節金融防詐措施宣讀完畢照審查會解明通過第七條第七條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員應採取合理措施防止存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶、信用卡與虛擬資產帳號遭濫用與詐欺犯罪並應向客戶宣導預防詐欺之資訊宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第八條"},{"start":25892.059,"end":25909.563,"text":"第八條,金融機構對存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶及信用卡提供虛擬資產服務知識業或人員對虛擬資產帳號應盡善良管理人之注意義務,對疑似涉及詐欺犯罪之異常存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶、信用卡或虛擬資產帳號"},{"start":25912.044,"end":25929.581,"text":"應強化確認客戶身份並得採取對客戶身份持續審查、暫停存入或提令、匯出款項或虛擬資產、暫停全部或部分交易功能、管控信用卡及暫停信用卡賬戶交易功能、拒絕建立業務關係或提供服務等控管措施。"},{"start":25930.562,"end":25956.801,"text":"金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員執行前項後段規定作業時得帳會統頁,受帳會者應提供相關資訊。前兩項疑似涉及詐欺犯罪之異常存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶、信用卡或虛擬資產帳號認定基準、帳會程序與項目、作業程序及其他應遵行事上之辦法由中央金融主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":25958.103,"end":25960.555,"text":"照行政院提案條文通過第九條"},{"start":25961.738,"end":25989.945,"text":"第九條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員依截條第一項後段規定辦理時應保存該客戶確認身份程序所的資料及交易記錄並得向司法警察機關通報司法警察機關接獲通報後應於合理期間通知金融機構或提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員就該異常賬戶信用卡或虛擬資產賬號辦理後續控管或解除控管"},{"start":25991.005,"end":26014.341,"text":"前項資料及交易記錄應自業務關係終止時期至少保存5年,但法律另有較長保存期間規定者亦其規定。第一項應保存資料、交易記錄之範圍、通報司法警察機關之方式、程序與就異常賬戶信用卡或虛擬資產帳號後辦理後續控管、結束控管及其他應遵刑事上之辦法。"},{"start":26014.861,"end":26024.194,"text":"由中央金融主管機關、匯商中央主管機關及法務主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第十條"},{"start":26025.046,"end":26041.875,"text":"第十條,機種機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員應配合司法警察機關建立聯防通報機制與接獲司法警察機關之通報時各受捆綁及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員,應將通報之捆綁或虛擬資產進行圈存持續監控。"},{"start":26045.397,"end":26063.226,"text":"並等依第八條第一項規定辦理司法警察機關為前項通報後應與合理期間進行查證並通知金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員辦理後續警示作業或解除控管前二項之通報機制捐存款項"},{"start":26064.446,"end":26080.26,"text":"或虛擬資產作業程序後續警示作業解除控管及其他應遵行事上之辦法由中央金融主管機關、衛生中央主管機關及法務主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第11條"},{"start":26081.431,"end":26100.657,"text":"第11條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員依第九條第一線後段司法警察機關通知暫停全部交易功能之帳戶或帳號中有被害人會轉入之款項或虛擬資產未經提領者等於原通知機關之通知發還帳戶或帳號內剩餘款項或虛擬資產。"},{"start":26105.558,"end":26123.792,"text":"前項包含帳戶或帳號內剩餘款項或虛擬資產之條件方式程序及其他應遵行事想事辦法由中央金融主管機關會商中央主管機關及法務主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照行政院提案條文通過第十二條"},{"start":26124.588,"end":26139.059,"text":"第十二條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務者事業或人員執行本條例規定之防障措施免除其業務上應保守秘密之義務該機構或事業之負責人、董事、經理人及職員一同"},{"start":26139.719,"end":26159.481,"text":"金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員執行本條例規定之防詐措施或配合司法警察機關、各目的事業主管機關所為之處理、資深損害與客戶或第三人者免付賠償責任。宣讀完畢。照行政院提案條文通過第13條"},{"start":26160.629,"end":26176.336,"text":"第十三條,金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務知識業或人員由下列前行之一者由中央金融主管機關處新台幣20萬元上200萬元相還並令其限期改正,即其為改正者按次處罰。"},{"start":26177.716,"end":26197.232,"text":"一、違反第八條第二項規定為提供照會者相關資訊。二、違反第九條第一項規定為保存資料或交易記錄。三、違反第九條第二項規定為一線保存資料或交易記錄。四、違反第十條第一項規定為配合建立聯防通報機制或為將通報這款銷貨虛擬資產進行圈存持續監控。"},{"start":26201.856,"end":26230.638,"text":"金融機構及提供虛擬生產服務知識業或人員有錢向各款鎖定情形之一。勤捷重大者由中央金融主管機關處新台幣一百萬元以上一千萬元下罰款,並令其限期改正,即其未改正者按次處罰。宣讀完畢照行政院提案條文通過第二節第二節電信仿照措施宣讀完畢照審查會結名通過"},{"start":26231.977,"end":26251.5,"text":"第十四條第十四條定性事業應採取合理措施防止其電信服務遭濫用與詐欺犯罪並應向用戶宣導預防詐欺之資訊。定性事業經電信、主管機關或司法警察機關通知有疑似使用電信服務從事詐欺犯罪這類型或方法"},{"start":26252.4,"end":26280.95,"text":"與技術可行下應採取預防阻止通報或其他合理對應措施避免用戶接觸詐欺資訊第一進事業及其從業人員執行本條例規定之防詐措施免除其業務上應保守秘密之義務第一進事業執行本條例規定之防詐措施或配合司法警察機關各目的事業主管機關所為之處理至深損害與用戶或第三人者免負賠償責任宣讀完畢"},{"start":26282.148,"end":26284.71,"text":"照審查會條文通過。第十五條"},{"start":26310.202,"end":26338.06,"text":"照審查會條文通過第十六條第十六條用戶准讓電信服務與他人依向電信事業重新辦理前條規定之核對及登錄事宜但用戶將電信服務供個人家庭生活或企業客戶內部活動目的使用者不在此限用戶為依前項規定向電信事業重新辦理核對及登錄者電信事業應限制或停止提供其相關電信服務宣讀完畢"},{"start":26339.113,"end":26340.634,"text":"照審查會條文通過第17條"},{"start":26369.301,"end":26370.785,"text":"照審查會條文通過第18條"},{"start":26371.806,"end":26400.585,"text":"第十八條第一屆事業經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通信用戶或使用電信人使用電信服務從事長期犯罪者應限制或停止提供該項電信服務依前項規定限制或停止之電信服務電信事業應就該用戶申請之其他電信服務現其重新核對及登錄用戶資料用戶未配合電信事業重新核對及登錄或經核對與本人不相符者"},{"start":26401.265,"end":26420.582,"text":"電信事業應限制或停止提供該用戶其他電信服務電信事業經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通知第一項限制或停止提供電信服務之原因消滅等恢復提供用戶使用宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第19條"},{"start":26421.755,"end":26444.148,"text":"第十九條電信事業受理申請電信服務應依電信主管機關指定之資料庫輔助和對用戶身份電信事業提供電信服務經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通知有詐欺犯罪之餘應重新核對者意圖前項資料庫由電信主管機關會商中央主管機關協調後指定之"},{"start":26445.449,"end":26473.566,"text":"電信事業依第一項資料庫輔助和對用戶身份之查詢事項查詢作業程序第二十條第二項與第二十二條第一項之定情查詢頻率及其他相關事項之變法由電信主管機關定之。電信事業搜集、處理及利用第一項資料庫之資料應依《個人資料保護法》規定辦理不得逾越和對目的之必要範圍並確保其從業人員保密義務。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":26474.54,"end":26476.865,"text":"照審查會條文通過第二十條"},{"start":26479.349,"end":26506.335,"text":"第20條電信事業提供境外高風險電信事業提供是全部或一部國際漫遊服務前與技術可行下應依前條第一項資料或認證電信使用人之護照號碼及姓名經查證使用電信人無入境資料者不得提供國際漫遊服務但經使用電信人向電信事業領貴提示身份證明文件公何對及登錄後得提供國際漫遊服務"},{"start":26508.275,"end":26533.346,"text":"電信事業提供前向電信服務後應借接前條第一項資料或定期查詢該使用電信人是否出境或與其停留或拘留電信事業提供第一項電信服務後發現使用電信人有資料不實、異常使用行為或因前向查詢已出境或與其停留或拘留時應限制或停止提供該項電信服務"},{"start":26534.426,"end":26560.717,"text":"第一項境外高風險電信事業及全部或一部國際漫遊服務之範圍由電信主管機關匯商中央主文機關公告之電信主管機關應定其檢討前項公告之境外高風險電信事業之及全部或一部國際漫遊服務之範圍並事實調整宣讀完畢照協商條文通過第二十一條"},{"start":26561.96,"end":26586.596,"text":"第21條電信事業與境外電信事業簽訂國際漫遊服務協議時應遵守平等互惠原則及我國法令之相關規定。電信事業經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通知特定境外電信事業所提供之特定電信服務有違反我國法令之余者不得提供對應該特定電信服務之特定用戶號碼或國際行動用戶識別碼。"},{"start":26589.878,"end":26605.555,"text":"International 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Identity特定號碼或碼段之國際漫遊服務宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第二十二條"},{"start":26606.482,"end":26625.482,"text":"第22條,定性事業提供非本國籍用戶預付卡服務期間,應藉階第19條定項是資料庫定期查詢該用戶是否出境與其停留或拘留。定性事業進一前項規定查詢非本國籍用戶已出境與其停留或拘留,"},{"start":26625.962,"end":26645.589,"text":"因限制或停止提供其預付卡服務。請向非本國籍用戶與預付卡服務有效期間再次入境。經向電信事業申請核對及登錄用戶身份後電信事業得繼續提供原電信服務。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第23條"},{"start":26647.045,"end":26668.435,"text":"第23條一、第17條第二項或第十方條第一項規定受電信事業限制或停止電信服務之用戶將統一電信事業再度申請電信服務時該電信事業應於受限制或停止通知之日起三年內限制其至多申請一門用戶號碼或一項電信服務"},{"start":26671.056,"end":26681.313,"text":"當用戶仍有該電信事業提供至其他用戶號碼或電信服務時電信事業予受限制或停止通知之日其三年內不得受理其申請。"},{"start":26683.228,"end":26708.162,"text":"曾因使用或提供電信服務進行詐欺,受司法警察機關通知限制或停止電信服務之法人、非法人團體。稍後,其代表人在以不同法人、非法人團體、稍後之名義向統一電信事業申請電信服務時,該電信事業應與受限制或停止通知之日期三年內,限制其至多申請一門用戶號碼或一項電信服務。"},{"start":26711.308,"end":26734.849,"text":"但法人、非法人團體商後,仍有該電信事業提供至其他用戶號碼或電信服務時,電信事業於受限制或停止通知之日其三年內,不得受理其申請。電信事業經司法警察機關通知,曾經其他電信事業限制或停止提供電信服務達一定次數之用戶,電信事業應將其列為高風險用戶,"},{"start":26737.251,"end":26761.701,"text":"並限制高風險用戶於受通知之日起三年內之多申請一門用戶號碼或一項電信服務。但該用戶仍有該電信事業提供之其他用戶號碼或電信服務時電信事業於受通知之日起三年內不得受理其申請。前項一定次數由電信主管機關會商中央主管機關公告之。詢問完畢。照審查會條文通過第24條"},{"start":26765.902,"end":26789.5,"text":"第24條,定性事業有項鍊其行之一者由定性主管機關儲新台幣20萬元以上500萬元向房還並令其限期改正,即其為改正者按次處罰。一、違反第19條第1項規定不依指定之資料庫輔助核對用戶身份。二、違反第19條第3項鎖定辦法中有關資料庫查詢作業程序之規定。"},{"start":26790.2,"end":26807.286,"text":"三、違反第20條第一項本委規定提供國際漫遊服務前未依第19條第一項之資料或查證使用第一線人有無入境資料或經查證使用第一線人無入境資料而提供國際漫遊服務。四、違反第20條第二項規定"},{"start":26808.966,"end":26836.579,"text":"為定期查詢使用電信人是否出境與其停留或拘留或違反同條第三項規定為限制或停止提供使用電信人國際漫遊服務五、違反第22條第一項規定為定期查詢非本國籍用戶是否出境與其停留或拘留或違反同條第二項規定為限制或停止提供與出境與其停留或拘留至非本國籍用戶預付卡服務"},{"start":26838.246,"end":26864.162,"text":"第七時也有前項各款鎖定情形之一。請協眾到者由電信主管機關處心臺幣100萬元以上、二千萬元影像返還並令其限期改正。藉其為改正者按次處罰必要時並得限制其在一定期間內。用戶號碼數量之合配。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第二十五條"},{"start":26865.54,"end":26885.156,"text":"第25條,第一屆事項有下令執行之一者由第一屆主管機關處新台幣10萬元以上200萬元下罰款並令其限期改正,即其為改正者按次處罰。依違反第15條第三項規定,為何對同條第一項或第二項之文件與本人或代理人相符或未登錄。"},{"start":26886.136,"end":26909.793,"text":"二、故意違反第16條第二項規定為限制或停止提供用戶相關電信服務。三、違反第17條第一項規定為限期重新辦理核對或登錄用戶資料。四、違反第17條第二項規定為限制或停止提供用戶該項電信服務。五、違反第18條第一項規定為限制或停止提供用戶該項電信服務。"},{"start":26911.454,"end":26936.259,"text":"六、違反第18條第二項前段規定為限期重新核對或登錄用戶資料。七、違反第18條第二項後段規定為限制或停止提供用戶其他電信服務。八、違反第23條第一項本文、第二項本文或第三項本文規定與受限制或停止通證之日期三年內提供用戶、該不同法人、非法人團體"},{"start":26937.619,"end":26956.209,"text":"雙號或高風險用戶超過一門用戶號碼或一項電信服務。九、違反第23條第一項單書、第二項單書或第三項單書規定與受限制或停止通知之日期三年內提供用戶該不同法人、非法人團體、雙號或高風險用戶其他用戶號碼或電信服務"},{"start":26959.551,"end":26984.441,"text":"低薪事業由前項各款鎖定情形之一,情節重大者由定性主管金關處心臺幣50萬元 相1000萬元相分換,並令其限期改正,藉其為改正者按次處罰必要時,並得限制其在一定期間內用戶號碼數量之合配,宣傳幣。照協商條文通過第26條"},{"start":26985.765,"end":27001.695,"text":"第26條,對定性主管及管一本條例所為之行政處分不符者,直接適用行政訴訟程序。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過。第三節。第三節,數位經濟防障措施。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":27002.543,"end":27031.536,"text":"照審查會結名通過第二十七條第二十七條網路廣告平台業者利用網信網路於中華民國領域內提供網路廣告服務前的一定規模者使用本條歷史規定前向一定規模之計算基準由數位經濟相關產業主管機關定之數位經濟相關產業主管機關應依前向鎖定計算基準公告符合一定規模之業者名單並定其檢討及事實調整宣讀完畢"},{"start":27032.83,"end":27061.54,"text":"照審查會條文通過第二十八條第二十八條網路廣告平台業者應以適當方式公開揭露下列資訊一、業者代表人及第二十九條第一項法律代表之姓名或名稱二、事務所或營業所之地址、電話及電子郵件信箱等得快速直接通訊之連續方式三、其他依法會應公開揭露之資訊宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過"},{"start":27063.987,"end":27083.576,"text":"第29條網路廣告平臺業者及其代表人與中華民國五一音樂所或諸居所及未設立分公司者、網路廣告平臺業者應以書面指定中華民國境內我國國民依法登記之法人或是有代表人或管理人之非法人團體為其法律代表"},{"start":27084.116,"end":27105.019,"text":"立項數位經濟相關產業主管機關提報法律代表者姓名、名稱、住居所、事務所或營業所、電話及電子郵件信箱。前項網路廣告平台業者之業務活動營業或投資行為依其他法律規定需經許可者並於提報法律代表前許得許可。"},{"start":27105.92,"end":27124.076,"text":"網路廣告平台業者應授予第一項法律代表必要之權限及資源執行下列事項一、為網路廣告平台業者指定之送達代收人。二、公知及協助網路廣告平台業者執行詐欺防事措施之法令遵循。"},{"start":27124.896,"end":27145.927,"text":"三、其當受網路廣告平臺業者委託辦理本條例及其相關法令之遵循。網路廣告平臺業者有項鍊起行之一者,是為經濟相關產業主管機關,得以適當方式公告其名稱。一、未依第一項規定指令及提報法律代表。二、法律代表待與執行前項第二款製構之際協助義務。"},{"start":27148.169,"end":27162.125,"text":"網路廣告平台業者為依第一項規定指定及提供法律代表者、數位經濟相關產業主管經過應通知期與期限內補正。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第30條"},{"start":27163.342,"end":27180.635,"text":"第30條網路廣告平臺刊登或推播之廣告不得含有涉及詐欺之內容網路廣告平臺業者應建立下列管理措施一、對其網路廣告服務應以數位簽證、快速身份識別機制或其他安全性相當之技術"},{"start":27181.335,"end":27195.725,"text":"或防法驗證委託刊剝者及出資者之身份。二、對其網路廣告服務遭利用為詐欺犯罪之風險進行分析及評估具以訂定合法、必要且有效之詐欺預防偵測、辨識及"},{"start":27199.227,"end":27216.672,"text":"應對執詐欺防治計劃並以適當方式每年發布詐欺防治透明度報告。且向第二款詐欺防治計劃應參照數位經濟相關產業主管機關、各目的事業主管機關或各同業、工會所發布之疑似詐欺廣告太陽。"},{"start":27217.592,"end":27240.904,"text":"建立防制詐欺風險管理機制並對高風險業務關係者採取必要強化管理措施第二項第一款使用之技術或方式第二款詐欺防制計畫與透明度報告之格式其內容由數位經濟相關產業主管機關公告之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第31條"},{"start":27244.161,"end":27267.869,"text":"第31條,網路廣告平台業者與其平台刊登或推播廣告時,亦與廣告中揭露下列資訊。一、標示為廣告之訊息。二、委託刊播者、出資者相關資訊。三、廣告依法需經許可者其許可之後。四、廣告使用深度偽造技術或人工智慧生成之個人影像。"},{"start":27269.51,"end":27281.62,"text":"網絡廣告平台業者已依前條第二項第一款規定驗證委託看破者及出資者之身份且委託看破者及出資者非屬前條第三項之高風險業務關係者前線廣告應揭露資訊等於簡化。"},{"start":27286.003,"end":27305.178,"text":"第1項第2款所稱委託看破者指為推銷商品或提供服務自行或委託他人設計、製作、發布廣告之法人、非法人團體或個人。第1項第4款所稱深度偽造指以電腦合成或其他科技方法製作本人不實質原型"},{"start":27306.218,"end":27323.328,"text":"並阻止他人物性違章之技術表現形式第一項及第二項資訊揭露精準簡化方式作業程序及其其他相關事項之辦法由數位經濟相關產業主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第32條"},{"start":27324.741,"end":27352.379,"text":"第32條網路廣告平臺業者知悉其刊登或退播之廣告為詐欺廣告或明顯涉及詐欺時應依下列規定辦理一、主動獲依司法警察機關、除外經濟相關產業主管機關或各目的事業主管機關之通知期限內,以除限制瀏覽、停止播送該廣告或採取其他必要之處置,並將該廣告之委託看摸者、處置者等資訊及廣告內"},{"start":27355.001,"end":27378.571,"text":"涵以涉及詐欺之網路通訊軟體帳號、電信號碼等相關資訊提供司法警察機關。二、對開播詐欺廣告或明顯涉及詐欺廣告之用戶或經司法警察機關通知該用戶為明顯涉及詐欺帳號並令其暫停提供服務時與合理期間暫停提供服務。"},{"start":27379.751,"end":27406.456,"text":"網路廣告平台業者違反前項規定對於因誤信廣告內容而受有損害之人應與廣告委託開幕者、出資者負連帶損害賠償責任。網路廣告平台業者依第一項第二款規定正庭提供服務應秉持客觀、禁責及實質原則選擇決定。第一項第一款之通知期限由數位經濟相關產業主管機關公告之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":27407.711,"end":27434.181,"text":"照審查會條文通過第三十三條第33條網路廣告平台業者經目的事業主管機關或司法警察機關通知其經營之平台所刊登或播送之內容有涉及詐欺犯罪嫌疑情緒者應進行限制接取、瀏覽或移除與詐欺犯罪有關之內容。宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第三十四條"},{"start":27435.137,"end":27453.174,"text":"第三十四條第三份支付服務業者對客戶應盡善良管理人之注意義務對疑性涉及詐欺犯罪之客戶應強化確認客戶身份並得採取對客戶身份程序審查以後撥款拒絕建立業務關係或提供服務等礦管措施"},{"start":27453.775,"end":27477.246,"text":"第三方支付服務業者執行前向後段規定作業時,都使用聯防系統通知同業業者。請一項疑似涉及詐欺犯罪之客戶認定基準通知程序,項目作業程序及其他相關事項之辦法由數位經濟相關產業主管局委定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第35條。"},{"start":27478.615,"end":27501.92,"text":"第三十五條第三方支付服務業者因檢調第一項後段規定辦理時因保存該客戶確認身份程序所得資料及交易記錄並得向司法、警察、機關通報司法、警察、機關接獲通報後因予以合理期間通知第三方支付服務業者就檢調第一項後段延後撥款辦理後續控管或解除控管"},{"start":27502.94,"end":27531.769,"text":"前項資料及交易記錄因此業務關係終止時其至少保存五年,任法律另有較長保存期間規定者從其規定。另一項應保存資料交易記錄之範圍,通報司法警察機關之方式程序,就嚴候撥款辦理後續控管及主控管及其他相關事項之辦法,由數位經濟相關產業主管機關、匯商中央主管機關及房屋主管機關令之。"},{"start":27532.509,"end":27532.99,"text":"宣讀為閉照審查會條文通過第36條"},{"start":27540.656,"end":27566.367,"text":"第36條電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者對於其服務應盡善良管理人之注意義務防止服務遭濫用與詐欺犯罪並得採取向用戶宣導預防詐欺之資訊等合理措施電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者執行前向合理措施時得使用聯防系統通知同業業者採取預防、阻止或其他合理對應措施避免用戶接觸詐欺資訊"},{"start":27569.168,"end":27593.126,"text":"第3頁者及網路連線遊戲業者經司法警察機關或目的事業主管機關通知其服務有疑似涉及詐欺犯罪之情勢者應配合司法警察機關或目的事業主管機關辦理並對涉及詐欺犯罪情勢之用戶徵候與合理期間暫停提供服務宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第37條"},{"start":27594.4,"end":27617.856,"text":"第37條,網路廣告平台業者、電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者應採可行之技術與合理期間保存電子記錄、文書、影像、物品、用戶註冊及確認身份程序所得資料、連線記錄或交易記錄等足以重建使用者及個別交易之有關資料,但法律另有就場保存期間規定者從其規定。"},{"start":27619.637,"end":27647.547,"text":"法院檢查署或司法警察機關應調查詐欺犯罪等向網路廣告平台業者、電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者調取前項有關資料該等業者應於收受調取通徵之日起三日內提供資料並保存六個月以提供司法警察機關調查發生訴訟時應延長保存至裁判確定後三個月。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第38條"},{"start":27648.888,"end":27666.304,"text":"第38條網路廣告平台業者、第三方支付服務業者、電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者執行本條例規定之防障措施,免除其業務上應保守秘密之義務,該機構或事業之負責人、董事、經理人及職員一同。"},{"start":27667.925,"end":27687.079,"text":"網路廣告平台業者、第三方支付服務業者、電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者、執行本條例規定之防詐措施或配合司法警察機關、數位經濟相關產業主管機關、各目的事業主管機關所為之處理之身損害於用戶或第三人者免付賠償責任。"},{"start":27689.676,"end":27694.325,"text":"照審查會條文通過台灣民眾黨黨團提案第39條至第41條均不予採納。第39條"},{"start":27701.141,"end":27725.82,"text":"第39條,網路廣告平臺業者有下令執行之一者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關處信臺幣50萬元以上1000萬元相包還並令其限期改正。即其未改正者按此處罰。以違反第29條第一項規定,為指定其提報法律代表,經依同條第五項規定通知限期補正而藉其未補正。二、"},{"start":27726.48,"end":27748.585,"text":"違反第29條第三項第二款規定法律代表待與執行公職或協助義務三、違反第32條第一項第一款規定為依司法警察機關、書委、經濟相關、產業主管機關或各目的事業主管機關之通知期限內移除、限制瀏覽、停止播送該廣告或採取其他必要之處置。"},{"start":27750.385,"end":27771.704,"text":"四、違反第32條第一項第二款規定為依司法警察機關之通知與合理期間暫停提供服務有前項第一款鎖定情形情節重道者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關處新台幣250萬元以上1億元以下還還並令其限期改正。進行外改正者按此處罰數位經濟相關產業主管機關並得到及專家審議會議。"},{"start":27776.608,"end":27797.891,"text":"令網際網路擬具服務提供者為停滯解析或限制擬具之處置。由第一項貼款至第四款鎖定情形之一,請檢討者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關處信貸逼250位允送以遠向還還,並令其限期改正,藉其為改正者安置處罰。"},{"start":27798.852,"end":27824.889,"text":"數位經濟相關產業主管機關並得召集專家審議會議令網際網路接取服務提供者或快速存取服務提供者為適當式流量管理措施,仍未改正者等為停止解析或限制接取等必要之處置。請按照所定情節狀況之認定基準採行適當流量管理措施,停止解析與限制接取之裁量基準,"},{"start":27825.749,"end":27850.589,"text":"專家審議會議之組成任務及其他應遵行事項之辦法由數位經濟相關產業主管機關會商中央主管機關定之。往近網路接取服務提供者或快速存取服務提供者依第二項及第三項規定所為之流量管理措施停止解析或限制接取之處置至深損害與用戶或第三人者免負賠償責任。宣讀完畢"},{"start":27853.106,"end":27878.946,"text":"照審查會條文通過第四十條。第四十條有下列前行之一者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關處信台幣20萬元以上500萬元相分還並令其限期改正。藉其為改正整案次處罰。依違反第28條規定為公開揭露或揭露諮詢不全。而違反第30條第二項第一款規定為驗證委託看摸者或出資者之身份。"},{"start":27879.586,"end":27900.426,"text":"三、違反第30條第二項第二款規定為定定詐欺防治計劃或為發布詐欺防治透明度報告四、刊登或推播廣告時為議第31條第一項規定揭露資訊五、違反第32條第一項第一款規定為將委託看破者、出資者等資訊或為將廣告內"},{"start":27902.888,"end":27925.283,"text":"涵疑四、涉及詐欺之網路通訊軟體帳號、電信號碼等相關資訊提供司法警察機關。六、違反世衛經濟相關產業主管機關,以檢調第二項或第三項規定所為之命令,為採取適當之流量管理措施,停止截行或限制截取之處置。有前項個款鎖定情形之一,請見重大者。"},{"start":27925.783,"end":27936.834,"text":"由數位經濟相關產業主管機關儲新台幣100萬元以上2500萬元相還款並令其限期改正。藉其為法證准案次處罰。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第41條"},{"start":27942.455,"end":27971.056,"text":"第41條有項鍊起刑之意者由屬委經濟相關產業主管金管處新台幣10萬元以上200萬元項罰款並令其限期改正。即其為改正者案自處罰一違反第35條第一項規定為保存資料或交易記錄二違反第35條第二項規定為一線保存資料或交易記錄三違反第36條第三項規定為對涉及詐欺犯罪請實施用戶證後與合理期間暫停提供服務"},{"start":27971.816,"end":27994.275,"text":"四、違反第三十七條第二項規定未配合調取通知提供資料有錢向購款鎖定情形之一勤監重道者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關儲新台幣五十萬元以上一千萬元下方還並另期限期改正即其未改正者按次處罰。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第四十二條"},{"start":27995.031,"end":28019.781,"text":"第四十二條為處理詐欺犯罪防止緊急案件及時防止民眾接觸詐欺網站各目的事業主管機關及司法警察機關任由及時處置之必要時得利網際網路接取服務提供者為停止解析或限制接取之處置。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過臺灣民眾黨黨團提案第四節結明及"},{"start":28024.025,"end":28035.33,"text":"第46條至第50條均不予採納第三章第三章溯源打造執法宣布完畢照審查會章名通過第43條"},{"start":28037.065,"end":28062.877,"text":"第四十三條犯刑法第三百三十九條之四之罪詐欺獲取之財物或財產上利益達新台幣五百萬元者處三年以上十年以下有期徒刑得併根新台幣三千萬元以下罰金因犯罪獲取之財物或財產上利益達新台幣一億元者處五年以上十二年以下有期徒刑得併根新台幣三億元以下罰金宣讀案例"},{"start":28064.025,"end":28090.993,"text":"照審查會條文通過。第44條第44條犯刑法第339條則是第一項第二款執罪有下列其刑之一者依該條項規定加重其刑二分之一依並犯同條項第一款第三款或第四款之一在中華民國領域外以供詐欺犯罪所用之設備對於中華民國領域內之人犯之"},{"start":28091.673,"end":28106.346,"text":"第一項加重刑刑其最高度及最低度同加之發起主持操縱或指揮犯罪組織而犯第一項之罪者處5年以上12年以下有期徒刑得併科新台幣3億元以下罰金。"},{"start":28107.168,"end":28131.346,"text":"犯第一項這罪及與之有裁判上癮罪關係之違反洗錢防治法第十九條、第二十條之洗錢罪、非屬形式訴訟法第二百八十四條之一第一項之第一審陰刑合意審判案件,並准用統條第二項規定。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第四十五條"},{"start":28132.079,"end":28155.725,"text":"第四十五條法人之代表人、法人或自然人之代理人、出戶人或其他從業人員因執行業務犯障及犯罪者處處罰行為人為並對該法人或自然人可以各該條之罰金,任法人或自然人為被害人或對於犯罪之發生以盡監督責任或為防止行為者不在此限。宣讀完畢"},{"start":28156.994,"end":28165.25,"text":"照審查會條文通過,台灣民眾黨黨團提案第五十四條不予採納。第四十六條"},{"start":28166.072,"end":28191.43,"text":"第46條,犯詐欺犯罪與犯罪後自首,如有犯罪所得,自動繳交其犯罪所得者,減刑或免除期刑。必因而使司法、警察機關或檢察官等以控押全部犯罪所得或查獲、發起、主持、操縱或指揮詐欺犯罪組織之人者,免除期刑。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第47條"},{"start":28192.881,"end":28219.799,"text":"第47條犯詐欺犯罪在偵查及歷次審判中均自白如有犯罪所得自動繳交其犯罪所得者減輕其刑並因而使司法警察機關或檢察官等以扣押全部犯罪所得或成後發起、主持、操縱或指揮詐欺犯罪組織之人者減輕或免除其刑。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第48條"},{"start":28221.021,"end":28244.022,"text":"第48條,犯詐欺犯罪,其公犯罪所用之物,不問屬於犯罪行為人與否,均莫收之。犯詐欺犯罪,有事時足以證明行為人所得之配置前項規定以外之財物或財權上利益,其取自其他違法行為所得者,莫收之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第49條"},{"start":28245.509,"end":28273.269,"text":"第49條,犯詐欺犯罪受徒刑之執行而有群毀失去者,有期徒刑逾三分之二,累分逾四分之三由監獄報警防護部得許假釋處遇,但有下列起刑之一者不得假釋。一、有期徒刑執行未滿六個月。二、犯詐欺犯罪之累分與假釋期間受徒刑之執行完畢或以不知執行而赦免後,五年以內再犯詐欺犯罪。"},{"start":28273.969,"end":28301.704,"text":"前項規定行為人如屬少年應依《少年事件處理法》相關規定辦理宣讀完畢照協商條文通過第五十條第五十條檢察官提起公訴任有必要時得予起訴書記載對被告科刑範圍之意見並述明理由宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第四章第四章章七犯罪被害人保護宣讀完畢"},{"start":28303.615,"end":28326.494,"text":"照審查會章名通過第五十一條第五十一條中央主管機關應設置24小時檢舉通報窗戶、線上檢舉平台或報案專線提供詐騙問題諮詢及通報或轉介相關機關購貨團體提供心理、資深、社會救助等必要之協助。訓練完畢照審查會條文通過第五十二條"},{"start":28327.318,"end":28344.813,"text":"第五十二條司法人員司法警察會於執行聚屋時發現詐欺犯罪被害人符合法律輔助法鎖定申請要件時應告是其得依法提出申請並給予必要之協助。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第五十三條"},{"start":28345.731,"end":28372.479,"text":"第五十三條蔣常安或法院與偵查或審判中反應用調解和解程序促使被告支付一定數額之賠償與詐欺犯罪被害人。對於未賠償被害人者,蔣常安等促請法院審酌量刑,必要時應提起勝訴。蔣常安與詐欺犯罪案件為緩起訴處分時,以優先命被告向被害人支付相當數額之財產或非財產上之損害賠償,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":28376.072,"end":28389.896,"text":"照審查會條文通過第五十四條。第五十四條,詐欺犯罪被害人以民事訴訟程序向依法應付賠償責任人起訴請求損害賠償或提起上訴時,暫免繳納訴訟費用,予以申請強制執行時並暫免繳納執行費。"},{"start":28396.178,"end":28396.759,"text":"前項訴訟照審查會條文通過第五十五條"},{"start":28421.26,"end":28449.108,"text":"第五十五條詐欺犯罪被害人提起民事訴訟所主張之主要攻擊或防禦方法相同者,得由其中選定一人或數人,為選定人及被選定人全體起訴或背訴。請向選定當事人之事項轉用民事訴訟法關於選定當事人之規定。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第五章"},{"start":28450.151,"end":28476.609,"text":"第五章 負責 宣讀完畢照審查會章名通過 第五十六條第五十六條 防治詐欺犯罪有功人員應予獎勵檢舉人與詐欺犯罪未發掘前檢舉其經法院判決有罪者一同其項獎勵核給之對象類別、條件及程序等有關事項之辦法由中央主管機關理定奉請行政院核定之宣讀完畢"},{"start":28477.543,"end":28479.864,"text":"照審查會條文通過第五十七條"},{"start":28502.062,"end":28531.3,"text":"照行政院提案條文通過臺灣民眾黨黨團提案第67條不予採納第58條第58條本條另除第19條、第20條、第22條、第24條、第39條和第2項是第5項有關流量管理措施停止解析與限制接取處置部分及第40條第一項第6管制施行日期由行政院定職委自公佈日施行。宣讀完畢"},{"start":28532.659,"end":28541.905,"text":"照審查會條文通過。方院會,全案經過二讀,現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀。請問院會有無異議?表一請宣讀經過二讀之條文。"},{"start":28553.326,"end":28569.902,"text":"詐欺犯罪危害防止條例第一章總則第一條為防止及打擊詐騙危害預防與遏止不當利用金融電信及網路從事詐欺犯罪並保護被害人保障人民權益特制定本條例"},{"start":28571.653,"end":28593.812,"text":"第二條本條例用詞定義如下一、撰寫犯罪指向列各目之罪一、犯刑法第339條之四之罪二、犯第43條或第44條之罪三、犯與前二目有裁判上一罪關係之其他犯罪二、金融機構指洗前防證法第五條第一項規定之機構"},{"start":28594.793,"end":28610.362,"text":"三、提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員。Judge一、洗錢防治法第五條第四項規定指定之提供虛擬資產服務事業或人員。Judge四、電信事業指電信管理法第三條第一項第一款規定之電信事業。"},{"start":28611.343,"end":28635.768,"text":"五、網路廣告平台業者只通過網際網路平台或板位提供刊登或推播廣告之服務並收取對價且為民眾接觸之廣告最終端網路平台業者。六、第三方支付服務業者只非屬電子支付機構管理條例所稱電子支付機構"},{"start":28637.506,"end":28654.258,"text":"提供代理收復網路實質交易款項服務之業者其電商業者至主要從事網際網路方式零售商品或經營網際網路平臺提供他人零售商品之業者方網路連線遊戲業者至營運網路連線遊戲服務之業者及發行線上遊戲專門遊戲點數專門用以兌換網路連線遊戲服務或商品之發行人"},{"start":28668.772,"end":28683.289,"text":"第三條本條例所稱主管機關在中央為內眷部,在直轄市為直轄市政府,在縣市為縣市政府。主管機關與目的事業主管機關應就本條例規定事項及防治障及犯罪之需要"},{"start":28683.834,"end":28699.504,"text":"主動規劃所需之預防及宣導措施若涉及相關機關之防制業務並應全力配合另辦理下令事項。依中央主管機關防制詐欺犯罪政策法規與方案之研究規劃訂定及解釋"},{"start":28700.405,"end":28726.545,"text":"其他統籌及督導防制詐欺犯罪業務等相關事宜。二、金融主管機關防制詐欺犯罪相關金融管理措施之規劃推動執行及監督。三、電信主管機關防制詐欺犯罪相關電信管理措施之規劃推動執行及監督。四、數位經濟相關產業主管機關防制詐欺犯罪相關之網路廣告平台"},{"start":28727.125,"end":28742.704,"text":"第三方支付服務、電商、網路、連線遊戲管理措施之規劃推動執行及監督五、防務主管機關、詐欺犯罪之偵查、執行罪犯意志及被害人保護等刑事司法相關事宜"},{"start":28743.385,"end":28757.183,"text":"六、其他防治詐欺犯罪工作由相關目的事業主管機關一職權辦理。前項各款事項涉及各機關公務職者掌握業務時,各級政府機關公應配合辦理。"},{"start":28759.185,"end":28779.859,"text":"第四條主管機關及各相關目的事業主管機關得以補助獎勵或輔導方式推動效力事項一、障棄防治教育宣導二、障棄防治技術輔導三、促進產業學術及研究機構合作障棄防治四、鼓勵投入障棄防治人才培育"},{"start":28780.479,"end":28807.852,"text":"五、充裕詐欺防治人才資源。六、鼓勵或協助運用適當技術或新興科技研發前後詐欺防治措施。七、其他促進詐欺防治及相關研究發展之事項。其項補助、角力或輔導是對象、資格條件、審核、基準、申請程序、合理機關及其他相關事項之本法,由主管機關及各相關目的事業主管機關定之。"},{"start":28809.454,"end":28826.187,"text":"第五條,主管機關及各目的事業主管機關應集合產業或民間團體積極辦理上期犯罪之預防、宣導、偵查及保護等相關業務,並與各國政府或國際非政府組織進行各項合作事宜。"},{"start":28827.864,"end":28844.053,"text":"第六條主管機關及目的事業主管機關與第二條第二款制第八款制機構事業及業者應定期舉辦教育訓練將將其人員防治詐欺犯罪之一事。第二章救援防詐機制"},{"start":28845.094,"end":28859.485,"text":"第1節金融防詐措施第7條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員應採取合理措施防止存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶、信用卡與虛擬資產帳號遭濫用與詐欺犯罪並應向客戶宣導預防詐欺之資訊。"},{"start":28867.796,"end":28895.047,"text":"第八條金融機構對存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶及信用卡提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員對虛擬資產帳號應盡善良管理人之注意義務對疑似涉及詐欺犯罪之議程存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶、信用卡或虛擬資產帳號應強化確認客戶身份並得採取對客戶身份持續審查、暫停存入或提令、匯出款項或虛擬資產"},{"start":28896.507,"end":28917.182,"text":"暫停全部或部分交易功能、管控信用卡及暫停信用卡徵戶交易功能、拒絕建立業務關係或提供服務等控管措施、金總機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員執行前線或斷規定作業時的政會統頁,需政會者應提供相關資訊。"},{"start":28918.663,"end":28934.509,"text":"其二項疑似涉及詐欺犯罪之異常存款帳戶、電子支付帳戶、信用卡或虛擬資產帳戶認定基準、徵費程序與項目、作業程序及其他因遵循市場之搬發由中央金融主管機關定之。"},{"start":28936.263,"end":28961.719,"text":"第九條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員依截條第一線後段規定辦理時應保存該客戶確認身份程序所得資料及交易記錄並得向司法警察機關通報司法警察機關接獲通報後應於合理期間通知金融機構或提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員就該議程賬戶信用卡"},{"start":28962.259,"end":28984.565,"text":"或虛擬資產帳號辦理後續控管或解除控管。緊項資料及交易記錄因此業務關係終止時期至少保存5年,但法律另有較長保存期間規定者從其規定。第一項應保存資料交易記錄這範圍通報司法警察監管之方式程序與就議場帳戶信用卡或虛擬資產帳號辦理後續控管。"},{"start":28989.667,"end":28998.775,"text":"解除控案及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央金融主管機關匯商中央主管機關及房屋主管機關定之。"},{"start":29000.441,"end":29024.711,"text":"第十條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員應配合司法警察機關建立聯防通報機制與接獲司法警察機關之通報時各受管行及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員應將通報之款項或虛擬資產進行圈存持續監控並得依第八條第一項規定辦理"},{"start":29026.866,"end":29055.741,"text":"司法檢查機關為前項通報後應於合理期間進行查證並通知金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員奔離後續警示作業或檢除控管。前項項之通報其指捐存款項或虛擬資產作業程序後續警示作業、檢除控管及其他因遵循時上市辦法由中央金融主管機關、匯商中央主管機關及房屋主管機關定之。"},{"start":29057.779,"end":29073.135,"text":"第11條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務知識業或人員依第九條第一線後段司法警察機關通知政庭全部交易功能之證戶或證號中有被害人會轉入之款項或虛擬資產未經提領者"},{"start":29075.257,"end":29097.134,"text":"得依原通知機關之通知發還帳戶或帳號內剩餘款項或虛擬資產。前項發還帳戶或帳號內剩餘款項或虛擬資產之條件、方式、程序及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央金融主管機關或向中央主管機關及法務主管機關定之。"},{"start":29098.959,"end":29114.3,"text":"第十二條新種機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員執行本條例規定之防詐措施免除其業務上應保守秘密之隱物該機構或事業之負責人、董事、經理人及職員一同"},{"start":29115.322,"end":29129.902,"text":"金融經貿及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員執行本條例規定之防詐措施或配合司法警察機關各目的事業主管機關所為之處理,致深損害於客戶或第三人者免付賠償責任。"},{"start":29132.56,"end":29149.214,"text":"第十三條金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務之事業或人員有項鍊執行之意者由中央金融主管機關處新台幣20萬元受200萬元價還款並令其限期改正即其為改正者按次處罰應違反第八條第二項規定為提供證會者相關資訊"},{"start":29152.416,"end":29166.529,"text":"二、違反第九條第一項規定為保存資料或交易記錄。三、違反第九條第二項規定為一線保存資料或交易記錄。四、違反第十條第一項規定為配合這樣的聯防通報機制,會員將通報時款項或虛擬資產進行圈存持續監控。"},{"start":29171.594,"end":29188.119,"text":"金融機構及提供虛擬資產服務知識業或人員有錢向各款鎖定情形之一。請接受到者由中央金融主管金管處新台幣100萬元上1000萬元下方婚,並令其限期改正,藉其為改正者按次處罰。"},{"start":29190.834,"end":29213.886,"text":"第二節電信防詐措施第十四條電信事業應採取合理措施防止其電信服務遭濫用與詐欺犯罪並應向用戶宣導預防詐欺之資訊電信事業經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通知有疑似使用電信服務從事詐欺犯罪之類行為方法"},{"start":29214.706,"end":29243.004,"text":"與技術可行下應採取預防、阻止通報或其他合理對應措施,避免用戶接觸詐欺資訊。厲信事業及其從業人員執行本條例規定之防詐措施,免除其義務上應保守秘密之義務。厲信事業執行本條例規定之防詐措施,或配合司法警察機關各目的事業主管機關所為之處理,置身損害於用戶或第三人者免負賠償責任。"},{"start":29246.192,"end":29269.413,"text":"第十五條申請電信服務應出示本人身份證明文件委託代理人申請電信服務者除前項身份證明文件外應出示代理人身份證明文件及委託之授權證明電信事業與用戶簽訂電信服務契約前應核對前項規定之文件與本人或代理人相符並登錄之"},{"start":29271.328,"end":29296.685,"text":"第十六條,用戶准讓電信服務與他人依向電信事業重新辦理前條規定之和對其登錄事宜,但用戶將電信服務供個人家庭生活或企業客戶內部活動目的使用者不再此限。用戶為依前項規定向電信事業重新辦理和對其登錄者電信事業應限制或停止提供其相關電信服務。"},{"start":29298.533,"end":29327.063,"text":"第十七條電信事業經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通信用戶或使用電信人疑似使用電信服務從事詐欺犯罪應限其重新辦理、核對及登錄該用戶之資料。用戶未依前項規定配合電信事業重新核對及登錄或經核對與本人不相符者電信事業應限之或停止提供該項電信服務。"},{"start":29330.083,"end":29352.311,"text":"第十八條電信事業經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通知用戶或使用電信人使用電信服務從事詐欺犯罪者應限制或停止提供該項電信服務依前項規定限制或停止之電信服務電信事業應就該用戶申請之其他電信服務限期重新核對其登錄用戶資料"},{"start":29353.271,"end":29376.047,"text":"用戶為配合電信事業重新核對及登錄或經核對與本人不相符者電信事業應限制或停止提供該用戶其他電信服務電信事業經電信主管機關或司法機關、警察機關通知第一項限制或停止提供電信服務之原因消滅等恢復提供用戶使用"},{"start":29377.987,"end":29401.59,"text":"第十九條,電信事業受領申請電信服務應依電信主管機關指定之資料或輔助核對用戶身份。電信事業提供電信服務,經電信主管機關或司法警察機關通知有詐欺犯罪之予應重新核對者意圖。前項資料或由電信主管機關會商中央主管機關協調後指定之。"},{"start":29403.13,"end":29427.755,"text":"電信事業依第一項資料庫付諸核對用戶身份之查詢事項查詢作業程序第二十條第二項與第二十二條第一項之定情查詢頻率及其他相關事項之辦法由電信主管機關定之。電信事業收集、處理及利用第一項資料庫之資料依依個人資料保護法規定辦理,不得逾越核對目的之必要範圍,並確保其從業人員保密義務。"},{"start":29431.994,"end":29452.642,"text":"第20條電信事業提供境外高風險電信事業提供至全部或一部國際漫遊服務前與技術可行下因依前條第一項資料庫認證電信使用人之護照號碼及姓名經查證使用電信人無入境資料者不得提供國際漫遊服務"},{"start":29454.262,"end":29474.656,"text":"當今使用電信人向電信事業寧貴提示身份證明文件供核對及登錄後得提供國際漫遊服務。電信事業提供前向電信服務後應藉前條第一項資料庫定期查詢該使用電信人是否出境或與其停留或居留。"},{"start":29475.756,"end":29495.423,"text":"電信事業提供第一項電信服務後發現使用電信人有資料不實、異常使用行為或因前項查詢已出境或與其停留或拘留時應限制或停止提供該項電信服務第一項境外高風險電信事業及全部或一部國際漫遊服務之範圍"},{"start":29496.363,"end":29508.661,"text":"由電信主管機關匯商中央主管機關公告之電信主管機關應定其檢討前項公告之境外高風險電信事業及全部或一部國際漫遊服務之範圍並事實調整。"},{"start":29512.779,"end":29535.146,"text":"第21條電信事業與境外電信事業簽訂國際漫遊服務協議時應遵守平等互惠原則及我國法令之相關規定電信事業經電信主管機關或司法機關查機關通知特定境外電信事業所提供之特定電信服務有違反我國法令之余者"},{"start":29535.806,"end":29540.708,"text":"不得提供對應該特定電信服務時特定用戶號碼或國際行動用戶識別碼特定號碼或碼段之國際漫遊服務。"},{"start":29555.407,"end":29582.933,"text":"第22條,定期試驗提供非本國籍用戶預付卡服務期間應藉階第19條定向資料庫定期查詢該用戶是否出境與其停留或拘留。定期試驗禁依前項規定查詢非本國籍用戶已出境與其停留或拘留,應限制或停止提供其預付卡服務。前項非本國籍用戶與預付卡服務有效期間再次入境。"},{"start":29583.914,"end":29591.547,"text":"經向電信事業申請核對及登錄用戶身份後電信事業得繼續提供原電信服務。"},{"start":29594.249,"end":29615.858,"text":"第23條一、第十七條第二項會議十八條第一項規定受電信事業限制或停止電信服務之用戶將同一電信事業再度申請電信服務時該電信事業應與受限制或停止通知之日期三年內甚至其最多申請一門用戶號碼或以上電信服務"},{"start":29616.978,"end":29636.972,"text":"但用戶仍有該電信事業提供之其他用戶號碼或電信服務時電信事業予以受限制或停止通知之日其三年內不得受理其申請。才應使用或提供電信服務進行這期受司法警察機關通知限制或停止電信服務之法人非法人團體。"},{"start":29647.138,"end":29671.795,"text":"該電信事業應與受限制或停止通知之日期三年內,限制其之多申請一門用戶號碼或一項電信服務,但法人非法人團體、商戶人有該電信事業提供至其他用戶號碼或電信服務時。電信事業於受限制或停止通知之日期三年內,不得受領其申請。"},{"start":29673.866,"end":29699.622,"text":"電信事業經司法警察機關通知曾經其他電信事業限制或停止提供電信服務等一定次數之用戶電信事業應將其列為高風險用戶並限制高風險用戶於受通知之日其三年內之多申請一門用戶號碼或一項電信服務但該用戶仍有該電信事業提供之其他用戶號碼或電信服務時"},{"start":29701.024,"end":29710.715,"text":"定性事業予受通知之際其三年內不得受理其申請。前項一定次數由定性主管警官會商中央主管警官公告之。"},{"start":29712.728,"end":29730.499,"text":"第24條電信事業有項鍊起行之一者由電信主管機關處新台幣20萬元以上500萬元相反還幣令及限期改正即其未改正者按次處罰以違反電視者條第一項規定依依決定之資料庫輔助核對用戶身份"},{"start":29731.099,"end":29753.64,"text":"二、為本第19條第3項鎖定辦法中有關資料庫查詢作業程序之規定。三、為本第20條第一項本文規定提供國際漫遊服務前為以第19條第一項之資料庫查證使用電視人有無入境資料或經查證使用電視人無入境資料而提供國際漫遊服務。四、為本第20條第二項規定"},{"start":29755.181,"end":29784.074,"text":"為定期查詢使用電信人是否出境與其停留或拘留或違反同條第三項規定為限制或停止提供使用電信人國際漫遊服務五、為本第二十二條第一項規定為定期查詢非本國籍用戶是否出境與其停留或拘留或違反同條第二項規定為限制或停止提供已出境與其停留或拘留之非本國籍用戶預付卡服務"},{"start":29785.885,"end":29806.497,"text":"定性事業有錢向各款鎖定情形之一,請協助納者由定性主管金關處新台幣100萬元上2000萬元下環環,並令其限期改正,即其未改正者按次處罰必要時並得限制其在一定期間內用戶號碼數量之合配。"},{"start":29808.888,"end":29829.185,"text":"第25條,電信事業有項鍊即行追贏者,由電信主管機關處新台幣10萬元、省200萬元相還款並令其限期改正,即其未改正者按次處罰,以違反第15條第三項規定,為何對同條第一項目的上之文件與本人或單位人相符或未登錄。"},{"start":29830.126,"end":29847.508,"text":"二、故意違反第16條第二項規定為限制或停止提供用戶相關電信服務。三、違反第17條第一項規定為限期重新辦理核對或登錄用戶資料。四、違反第17條第二項規定為限制或停止提供用戶該項電信服務。"},{"start":29849.45,"end":29867.251,"text":"五、為本地18條第一項規定為限制或停止提供用戶該項電信服務。六、為本地18條第二項前段規定為限期重新核對或登錄用戶資料。七、為本地18條第二項後段規定為限制或停止提供用戶其他電信服務。"},{"start":29868.939,"end":29882.175,"text":"把違本第23條第一項本文、第二項本文或第三項本文規定與受限制或停止通知這日期三年內提供用戶、該不同法人、非法人團體、身後或高風險用戶稱獲一門用戶號碼或一項電信服務。"},{"start":29887.041,"end":29901.768,"text":"九、違反第23條第一項單書、第二項單書或第三項單書規定,於事務限制或停止通知之日其三年內提供用戶、該不同法人、非法人團體、商號或高風險用戶、其他用戶號碼或電信服務。"},{"start":29904.089,"end":29932.698,"text":"電信事業由前相各管所定期限之一,請其中道者由電信主管機關儲新台幣50萬元以上、1000萬元相關還,並令其限期改正。藉其為改正者按次處罰必要時,並得限制其在一定期間內用戶號碼數量之合配。厲二十六條對電信主管機關依本條例所為之行政處分不符則,直接適用行政訴訟程序。"},{"start":29934.332,"end":29952.746,"text":"第三節數位經濟防詐措施第二十七條網路廣告平台業者利用網信網路與中華民國領域內提供網路廣告服務且拿一定規模者適用本條歷史規定前向一定規模者計算期準由數位經濟相關產業主管機關定制"},{"start":29955.248,"end":29965.482,"text":"數位經濟相關產業主管機關應依前項鎖定計算基準公告符合營運規模之業者名單並定期檢討及事實調整。"},{"start":29968.291,"end":29990.547,"text":"第28條網路廣告平臺業者應以適當方式公開揭露下列資訊一、業者代表人及第29條第一項法律代表之姓名或名稱二、事務所或營業所之地址、電話及電子郵件信箱等得快速直接通訊之聯繫方式三、其他依法規應公開揭露之資訊"},{"start":29992.208,"end":30012.569,"text":"第29條網絡廣告平台業者及其代表人與中華民國文藝院所或駐居所前衛設立分公司者。網絡廣告平台業者應引書面指定中華民國境內國務國民依法擬具法人或是由代表人或管理人之非法人團體為其法律代表。"},{"start":30013.349,"end":30037.049,"text":"並向數位經濟相關產業主管機關提報法律代表者姓名、名稱、住居所、事務所或營業所電話及電子郵件、帳、信箱。前線網路廣告平台業者之業務活動營業或投資行為依其他法律規定需經許可者並應與提報法律代表前取得許可。"},{"start":30038.809,"end":30067.339,"text":"網路廣告平台業者應授予第一項法律代表必要之權限及資源執行下令事項一、為網路廣告平台業者指定之送達代收人二、告知其協助網路廣告平台業者執行詐欺防治措施之法令遵循。三、其他受網路廣告平台業者委託辦理本條例及其相關法令之遵循。網路廣告平台業者由下令執行之一者"},{"start":30067.819,"end":30087.289,"text":"是為經濟相關產業主管機關等引述黨方式公告其名稱一、為依第一項規定指定及提報法律代表二、法律代表待遇執行前項第二款施工之及協助義務網路廣告平台業者為依第一項規定指定及提報法律代表者是為經濟相關產業主管機關應通徵期與期限內補徵。"},{"start":30093.291,"end":30112.418,"text":"第30條網路廣告平臺刊登或推播式廣告不得含有涉及重要機制內容。網路廣告平臺業者應建立下列管理措施。一、對集網路廣告服務應以數位簽證、快速身份試點機制或其他安全性相當之技術或方法。"},{"start":30113.458,"end":30137.292,"text":"驗證委託看摸者及出資者之身份。二、對其網路廣告服務遭利用為詐欺犯罪之風險進行分析及評估,具以奠定合法、必要且有效之詐欺預防、偵測、辨識及應對之詐欺防治計畫,並以適當方式每年發布詐欺防治透明度報告。傾向列款詐欺防治計畫"},{"start":30139.052,"end":30167.277,"text":"應參眾數位經濟相關產業主管機關、各目的事業主管機關或各同業工會所發布之疑似詐欺廣告的太陽建立防制詐欺風險管理機制並對高風險業務關係者採取必要強化管理措施第二項第一款使用之技術方式第二款詐欺防制計畫與透明度報告之格式及內容由數位經濟相關產業主管機關公告之"},{"start":30170.529,"end":30197.873,"text":"第31條網絡廣告平台業者與其平台刊登或推播廣告時應於廣告中揭露下列資訊一、標示為廣告這訊息二、委託刊播者、出資者相關資訊三、廣告依法需經許可者其許可字號四、廣告使用深度偽造金屬或人工智慧生產之個人影像網絡廣告平台業者已依前條第二項第一款規定"},{"start":30198.673,"end":30216.572,"text":"嚴正委託看播者及出資者之身份且委託看播者及出資者非屬檢調第三項之高風險業務關係者前線廣告應揭露資訊得欲簡化第一項諦懷所稱委託看播者指為推銷"},{"start":30218.294,"end":30244.89,"text":"商品或提供服務自行或委託他人設計、製作、發布廣告之法人、非法人團領或個人第一項第四會所稱深度偽造只以電腦合成或其他科技方法製作本人部署之言行並阻使他人物性為專制技術表現形式第一項及第二項資訊揭露基準、簡化方式、作業程序及其他相關事項之辦法"},{"start":30245.451,"end":30246.416,"text":"由數位經濟相關產業主管機關定之。"},{"start":30250.373,"end":30278.301,"text":"第三十二條網路廣告平臺業者致謝其刊登或推播之廣告為這期廣告或明顯涉及詐欺時應依項列規定辦理。一、主動或議司法警察機關為經濟相關產業主管機關或各目的事業主管機關之通知期限內,以除限制瀏覽、停止播送該廣告或採取其他必要之處置,並將該廣告之委託看播者、出資者等資訊"},{"start":30279.461,"end":30303.143,"text":"及廣告內容疑似涉及詐欺師網路通訊帳號、軟體帳號、電信號碼等相關資訊提供司法警察機關對開播詐欺廣告或明顯涉及詐欺廣告之用戶或經司法警察機關通知該用戶為明顯涉及詐欺帳號並令其暫停提供服務時與合理期間暫停提供服務。"},{"start":30304.544,"end":30315.512,"text":"網路廣告平臺業者違反前項規定﹐對於因誤信廣告內容而受有損害之人﹐應與廣告委託看破者、出資者負連帶損害賠償責任。"},{"start":30319.81,"end":30334.671,"text":"網路廣告平台日則依第一項第2款國定暫停提供服務應秉持客官盡責及時之原則審酌決定。第一項第1款是通知期限由出外經濟相關產業主管機關公告之。"},{"start":30336.621,"end":30354.484,"text":"第43條網絡廣告平臺業者經目的是有主管機關或私訪警察機關通知其經營之平臺所刊登或播送之內容有涉及詐欺犯罪行為情緒者應先行限制監取、瀏覽或移除與詐欺犯罪有關之內容。"},{"start":30357.403,"end":30376.114,"text":"第34條第三方支付服務業者對客戶應盡善良管理人之注意義務,對疑似涉及詐欺犯罪之客戶,應強化確認客戶身份,並得採取對客戶身份持續審查、延後撥款、拒絕建立業務關係或提供服務等控管措施。"},{"start":30377.134,"end":30394.424,"text":"第三方支付服務業者執行前向後段規定作業時得使用聯盟系統通知同業業者。前兩項疑似涉及重要機份確認客戶認定精準通知程序項目作業程序及其他相關事項之辦法由數位經濟相關產業主管機關定制。"},{"start":30400.049,"end":30425.612,"text":"第35條第三方支付服務業者依前條第一線後段規定辦理時應保存該客戶確認身份程序所得資料及交易記錄並得向司法警察機關通報司法警察機關接獲通報後應於合理期限通知第三方支付服務業者就前條第一線後段延後撥款辦理後續控管或解除控管"},{"start":30426.572,"end":30447.423,"text":"此項資料及交易記錄因自業務關係終止時期至少保存五年,但考慮另有交償保存期間規定者從其規定。第一項因保存資料交易記錄這範圍,通報司法警察機關這方式程序就延後撥款辦理後續控管及諸控管及其他"},{"start":30448.764,"end":30456.297,"text":"相關事項之本法由數位經濟相關產業主管機關、衛生中央主管機關及房屋主管機關定之。"},{"start":30458.942,"end":30487.281,"text":"第36條,低商業者及網絡連線遊戲業者對於其服務應盡善良管理人之注意務,防止服務遭濫用與詐欺犯罪,並得採取向用戶宣導預防詐欺之資訊等合理措施。低商業者及網絡連線遊戲業者執行前項合理措施時,得使用聯防系統通知同業業者採取預防、阻止或其他合理對應措施,避免用戶接觸詐欺資訊。"},{"start":30489.542,"end":30510.197,"text":"第3頁者及網路連線由系頁者經司法檢查機關或目的事業主管機關通知其服務有疑似涉及撞擊犯罪及歧視者應配合司法檢查機關或目的事業主管機關辦理並對涉及撞擊犯罪歧視之用戶稱號於合理期間暫停提供服務。"},{"start":30512.421,"end":30538.332,"text":"第37條,網路廣告平台業者、跌傷業者及網路連線遊戲業者應採可行之技術,於合理期間保存電子記錄、文書、影像、物品、用戶註冊及確認身份程序所得資料、聯繫記錄或交易記錄等足以重建使用者及個別交易者有關資料,但法律另有較長保存期間規定者從其規定。"},{"start":30540.413,"end":30566.312,"text":"法院及場所或司法警察機關因調查詐欺犯罪得向網路廣告平台業者、電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者調取前項有關資料。該等業者應於收受調取通知之日起三日內提供資料並保存六個月以提供司法警察機關調查。發生訴訟時應延長保存至裁判確定後三個月。"},{"start":30569.161,"end":30586.72,"text":"第38條網路廣告平台業者、第三方支付服務業者、低收業者及網路連線遊戲業者執行本條例規定之防詐措施,免除其業務上應保守秘密之義務。該機構或事業之負責人、董事、經理人及職員一同。"},{"start":30588.361,"end":30608.539,"text":"網路、廣告平台業者、第三方支付服業者、電商業者及網路連線遊戲業者執行本條例規定之防詐措施或配合司法警察機關、諸位經濟相關產業主管機關各目的事業主管機關所為之處理、致生損害與用戶或第三人者免付賠償責任。"},{"start":30611.621,"end":30638.601,"text":"第39條網路廣告平臺業者有相令進行追議者由數位經濟相關產業主管金融處心臺幣50萬元上1000萬元下徘徊並令其限期改正。藉其未改正者按自處罰。一、違反第29條第一項規定為指定及提報法律代表。僅依同條第五項規定通知限期補正而竊其為補正。二、違反第29條第三項第二款規定"},{"start":30639.201,"end":30658.272,"text":"法律代表待遇執行公職或協助義務。三、違本第32條第一項第一款規定為依司法警察機關、數位經濟生活產業主管機關或各目的事業主管機關之通知期限內移除、申請瀏覽、停止播送該廣告或採取其他必要者處置。"},{"start":30659.472,"end":30681.258,"text":"四、違反第三十二條第一項第二款規定,為依司法警察機關是通知於合理期間暫停提供服務,由前項第一款鎖定情形情結束納者,由數位監禁相關產業主管機關處新台幣250萬元一億元下保還,並令其限期改正,及其為改正者按次處罰。"},{"start":30683.238,"end":30709.388,"text":"數位經濟相關產業主管機關並達到其專交審議會議令網際網路擷取服務提供者為停止解析或限制擷取之處置。由第一項第二環至第三環鎖定情形之一檢協重大者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關儲新台幣250萬元以上以遠向還還並令其限期改正。藉其為改正者按次處罰"},{"start":30710.348,"end":30737.048,"text":"是為經濟相關產業主管機關並得召集專家審議會議令網際網路接取服務提供者或快速存取服務提供者為適當之流量管理措施能為改善者得為停止解析或限制接取等必要之處置。請向所令請接中當之認定基準採行適當流量管理措施停止解析與限制接取之裁量基準專家審議會議之組成"},{"start":30738.829,"end":30762.543,"text":"任務及其他應遵循事項之範本、螺旋外經濟相關產業主管機關或商中央主管機關定制。往近網絡接取與服務提供者或快速存取與服務提供者依第二項及第三項規定所為之流量管理措施停止解析或限聚接取之處置之身損害與用戶或第三人者免負賠償責任。"},{"start":30765.475,"end":30794.192,"text":"第四十條有下令起刑之意者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關除新台幣20萬元以上500萬元銀箱發還並令其限期改正即其未改正者按次處罰依違反第28條規定為公開揭露或揭露諮詢不全二、違反第30條第二項第一款規定為驗證委託開播者或出資者之身份三、違反第30條第二項第二款規定為定定詐欺防治計劃"},{"start":30795.732,"end":30815.063,"text":"護衛發布《詐欺防事透明度報告》四、刊登或推播廣告時護衣第30條第一項規定揭露資訊五、違反第32條第一項第一環規定為將委託看破者、出資者等資訊護衣將廣告內含疑似涉及詐欺者網路通訊軟體帳號"},{"start":30816.744,"end":30832.99,"text":"第1信號不等相關資訊提供司法檢查機關。厲、違反數位經濟相關產業主管機關,以檢調第二項或第三項規定所為之命令,未採取適當之流量管理措施,停止解析或限制接取之處置。"},{"start":30834.758,"end":30848.194,"text":"由前向各款所定期刑之一情節收納者由數位經濟相關產業主管機關除新台幣100萬元以上2500萬元相關款並令其限期改正,即其未改正責案次處罰。"},{"start":30850.336,"end":30871.342,"text":"第41條有項列其行之一者由須為經濟生活產業主管金管處信貸幣10萬元以上200萬元下緩還並令其限期改正即其未改正者按次處罰一違反第三十五條第一項規定為保存資料或交易記錄二違反第三十五條第二項規定為一線保存資料或交易記錄"},{"start":30872.262,"end":30901.039,"text":"三、違反第36條第三項規定,為對涉及詐欺犯罪情事之擁護症候與合理期間暫停提供服務。四、違反第37條第二項規定,為配合調取通知提供資料,有前項惡款所定情形之一前期重大者由數位經濟升溫產業主管機關處心量利50萬元以上1000萬元相關款,並令其限期改正,即其未改正者按次處罰。"},{"start":30904.403,"end":30930.428,"text":"第四十二條為處理詐欺犯罪防事緊急案件及時防止民眾接觸詐欺網站各目的事業主管機關及司法警察機關若有及時處置之必要時得令網際網路監視服務提供者為停止解析或限制監視之處置。第三章溯源打詐執法"},{"start":30932.475,"end":30956.757,"text":"第四十三條犯刑法第三百三十九條之四之罪章青獲取徵財務或財產上利益達新台幣五百萬元者處三年生十年下有期徒刑得併科新台幣三千萬元下罰金因犯罪獲取徵財務或財產上利益達新台幣一億元者處五年生十二年下有期徒刑得併科新台幣三億元以下罰金"},{"start":30959.639,"end":30970.359,"text":"第44條犯刑法第339條之四第一項連環徵稅有項鍊起刑之一者應跟條項規定加重起刑二分之一"},{"start":30972.148,"end":30999.466,"text":"一、併份同條上第一款、第三款或第四款之一。二、在中華民國領域外以供詐欺犯罪所用之設備對於中華民國領域內居然犯之。第一項加重其刑,其最高度及最低度同加之。發起、主持、操縱或指揮犯罪組織,而分第一項罪者處五年以上、十二年以下有期徒刑,得併科新台幣三億元以下花金。"},{"start":31000.386,"end":31017.623,"text":"犯第一項之罪及與之有裁判上言罪關係之違反洗劫防治法第十九條、第二十條之洗錢罪、非屬刑事訴訟法第二百八十四條之一、第一項之第一審陰刑和異議審判案件,並準用同條第二項規定。"},{"start":31021.144,"end":31045.505,"text":"第四十五條法人是代表人、法人或自然人是代理人、受惠人或其他從業人員應執行業務犯詐欺犯罪者處處罰行為人為並對該法人或自然人科以各該條之罰金但法人或自然人為被害人或對於犯罪之發生以盡監督責任或為防止行為者不在此限"},{"start":31047.489,"end":31069.865,"text":"第46條犯詐欺犯罪與犯罪或自首如有犯罪所得自動繳交其犯罪所得者減刑或免除其刑。兵、流士、司法、檢察機關或檢察官等以控押全部犯罪所得或查獲、發起、主持、操縱或指揮詐欺犯罪組織之人者免除其刑。"},{"start":31073.174,"end":31096.449,"text":"第十七條分詐欺犯罪在偵查及歷次審判中均自白如有犯罪所得自動獎證其犯罪所得者減刑其刑並額許司法警察機關或檢察官等以控押全部犯罪所得或查獲、發起、組織、操縱或指揮詐欺犯罪組織之人者減刑或免除其刑。"},{"start":31098.447,"end":31117.675,"text":"第48條,犯詐欺犯罪,其公犯罪所用之物,不論屬於犯罪行為者與否,均莫收之。犯詐欺犯罪有事時,主以證明行為人所得之被知前項規定以外之財物或財選上利益,系取自其他違法行為所得者,莫收之。"},{"start":31120.086,"end":31149.105,"text":"第49條,犯詐欺犯罪受徒刑之執行而有群毀時拒者,由其徒刑逾三分之二,累犯逾四分之三,由監獄、報警、防務部等許假釋出獄,但有效率起刑追者不得假釋。一、由其徒刑執行未滿六個月。二、犯詐欺犯罪之累犯於假釋期間受徒刑之執行完畢或一步之執行而赦免後五年以內罪犯詐欺犯罪。"},{"start":31149.825,"end":31164.662,"text":"斜向規定行為人如屬少年應依《少年事件處理法》相關規定辦理。第五十條警察官提起公訴任有必要時,等於起訴書計算對被告科型範圍之意見並續名理由。"},{"start":31167.884,"end":31188.025,"text":"第四章詐欺犯罪被害人保護第五十一條中央主管機關應設置24小時檢舉通報窗口、線上檢舉平台或報案專線提供正面問題諮詢及通報或轉介相關機關構或團體提供心理支撐、社會救助等必要之協助。"},{"start":31190.12,"end":31204.589,"text":"第五十二條司法人員司法警察官於執行職務時發現撞擊犯罪被害人符合法律輔助法所定的申請要件時應告知其得依法提出申請並給予必要之協助。"},{"start":31206.724,"end":31233.218,"text":"第五十三條,檢察官或法院於偵查或審判中的運用、調解和解程序促使被告支付一定數額之賠償與詐欺犯罪被害人。對於未賠償被害人者,檢察官的促請法院審酌量刑必要時應提起上訴。檢察官與詐欺犯罪案件為緩起訴處分時,以優先命被告,向被害人支付相當數額之財產或非財產上支損害賠償。"},{"start":31238.021,"end":31244.149,"text":"第五十四條詐欺犯罪被害人依民事訴訟程序,請依法應付賠償責任人。"},{"start":31247.631,"end":31268.794,"text":"起訴請求損害賠償或提起上訴時,證免繳納訴訟費用,與申請強制執行時,並證免繳納執行費。其向訴訟詐欺、犯罪、被害人為保權強制執行而申請假貨押貨假處分者,法院依《民事訴訟法》所命公知擔保不得高於請求標的金額獲得。"},{"start":31271.107,"end":31281.142,"text":"不得告於請求標的金額或交流之十分之一法院依申請或依職權申告長執行所命功之擔保轉用前項規定。"},{"start":31285.39,"end":31305.718,"text":"第五十五條,詐欺犯罪被害人提起民事訴訟所主張之主要攻擊或防禦方法相同者,得由其中選定一人或數人,為選定人及被選定人全體起訴或背訴。其上選定當事人之事項,準用民事訴訟法關於選定當事人之規定。"},{"start":31308.174,"end":31330.871,"text":"第五章復則第五十六條防修詐欺犯罪有功人員應與獎勵檢舉人與詐欺犯罪未發掘前檢舉其經法院判決有罪者一同其將獎勵核解之對象類別條件之程序等有關事項之辦法由中央主管機關理定部請行政院核定之"},{"start":31332.412,"end":31350.981,"text":"第五十七條網路廣告平台業者為一第29條定向規定指定及提報法律代表者依本條例對看業者所謂文書之送達以公告代之自公告正式及發聲效力並刊登政府公告及於機關網站公開。"},{"start":31356.397,"end":31377.917,"text":"第五十八條本條例除第十九條、第二十條、第二十二條、第二十四條、第三十九條、第二項至第五項有關流量管理措施、停止減稀與限制接取處置部分,及第四十條第一項第六管制施行日期由行政院定職委自公佈日施行。宣讀完畢"},{"start":31385.618,"end":31412.561,"text":"三讀條文已宣讀完畢現有民進黨黨團提議第44條第二項具首第一項文字修正為前項請問院會有無異議無異議照民進黨黨團所提意見作文字修正本案決議詐欺犯罪危害防治條例制定通過"},{"start":31418.815,"end":31427.501,"text":"繼續處理審查會及黨團協商通過之附帶決議其中審查會第二項附帶決議依協商結論不予處理。請議事人員一併宣讀附帶決議之內容。"},{"start":31434.665,"end":31454.751,"text":"審查會通過附帶決議五項一、面對詐欺犯罪形態及技術不斷演變各目的事業主管機關應提出具體方案鼓勵民間以創新科技投入反詐作為防制及打擊詐騙危害者使詐欺犯罪危害防制條例等法案得以落實"},{"start":31455.911,"end":31482.94,"text":"二、有關草案第43條以詐欺獲取一定金額以上之財務或財產上利益,而為加重刑罰事由,為避免日後司法認定有困難,有關機關因事本條例立法通過後,於立法說明欄中明確揭示本條例僅係單純的量刑規定之加重變體規定。三、因應本法施行後,"},{"start":31484.059,"end":31509.133,"text":"原鄉及偏鄉所需警力請內政部應適時補充以維護民眾的權益。四、請內政部於本法通過三個月內在原住民族地區加強法案說明會並加法案說明會的時間與地點的期程報告送至內政委員會。五、未執行防制打擊詐欺詐騙"},{"start":31511.704,"end":31539.985,"text":"犯罪應涉中央詐欺詐騙犯罪防制匯報。黨團協商結論通過附帶決議二項。一、本法公布施行後一年,相關機關應就第20條規定之落實成效及實務運作情形擬具報告到院,並供本院委員評估是否在行修正。二、"},{"start":31541.055,"end":31562.489,"text":"金融監督管理委員會收集國際監理發展方向、釐清NTF用途屬性及國內詐騙探案並提出具體因應措施。於六個月內向立法院內政委員會提出書面報告。宣讀完畢。報告院會依協商結論均照案通過。"},{"start":31563.772,"end":31576.27,"text":"本案完成立法程序後由委員登記發言每位委員發言時間兩分鐘並截止發言登記現在我們請王國昌委員發言"},{"start":31599.537,"end":31625.19,"text":"主席、本院委員詐騙、橫行、人民受害已經成為過去這幾年台灣社會普遍的共識面對如此猖獗的詐騙、橫行行為這一次我們終於回應人民的期待完成了詐欺犯罪危害防治條例的修正在這次修正當中"},{"start":31626.658,"end":31652.175,"text":"基本上的特性採取雙管齊下在事前的管制我們科與了電信機構、金融機構、網路平台業者他們防詐的義務在事後的部分我們對於過去在司法實務上輕重詐欺犯罪這樣的惡行完全沒有辦法接受"},{"start":31653.271,"end":31670.946,"text":"在這一次三讀通過的法案當中台灣民眾黨黨團要特別感謝其他黨派的委員能夠共同的支持我們在43條以及44條所提出的修正"},{"start":31672.286,"end":31686.9,"text":"針對目前詐欺犯罪刑法339條之事一年以上七年以下的有期徒刑在司法的實務上卻常常輕輕放下導致過去"},{"start":31688.801,"end":31708.046,"text":"詐騙集團難道可以犯了二十幾個加重詐欺罪結果半天的勞都沒有做在這一次四十三條我們針對重大詐欺的犯罪行為大幅的提升了它的刑度五年以上十二年以下"},{"start":31708.846,"end":31731.991,"text":"更重要的在44條針對詐欺集團的首腦處於7年以上有期徒刑的重刑我們希望這個法律的通過能夠改變台灣詐欺好謝謝黃委員下一位我們請李坤成委員發言"},{"start":31750.243,"end":31777.559,"text":"謝謝主席也非常謝謝這個所有立法院的不分堂拜的同仁雖然最近立法院打打鬧鬧但還是有很多重要的法案期待通過那其中打詐專法就是重中之重那很高興今天立法院能夠三讀通過打詐專法也就是詐欺犯罪危害防治條例那打詐專法也是本席在立法院所提的第一個法案"},{"start":31778.76,"end":31794.981,"text":"本席的第一次質詢也是要求當時的陳建仁行政院長在520之前把打詐專法的版本送到立法院。接任的行政院院長卓榮泰也把打詐、掃黑、速貪列為重點。"},{"start":31797.121,"end":31815.26,"text":"今天立法院能夠通過打詐專法讓政府有更多的工具來打詐也讓金融機構、虛擬資產服務業、電信業、網路廣告平台、第三方支付、電商業、網路遊戲業者等關鍵產業還有更多的防詐義務"},{"start":31817.343,"end":31834.367,"text":"專法也要求境外網路廣告平台業者例如TikTok、國際版、臉書、Google在台灣必須設立法律代表人來配合政府防詐,把網路詐騙的傷害降到最低這次也加重了這個懲罰,也就是說騙越多會關越久"},{"start":31839.108,"end":31866.736,"text":"打仗是讓人民深惡痛絕本席也期待新政府在專法通過之後能夠加大、加重打仗的力道其他三個配合打仗專法的配套法案包含課徵法、通保法、洗錢防治法的修正法案本席也期待能夠順利在本會期通過不要辜負人民對於新政府還有對於立法院的期待謝謝大家"},{"start":31871.274,"end":31875.07,"text":"謝謝李委員下一位我們請牛許廷委員發言"},{"start":31884.427,"end":31905.362,"text":"謝謝主席各位同仁今天是詐欺犯罪危害防制條例三讀後發言詐騙案件讓國人深惡痛絕近幾年因為科技的進步反而導致詐騙的手法不斷的變化檢警的工作量因此被大量的詐騙案件所淹沒是一個不得不面對的重大危機"},{"start":31906.323,"end":31934.211,"text":"行政院推出詐欺犯罪危害防治條例從金融機構賬戶、虛擬資產納管、電信事業服務實名制認證、客源網路廣告平台相關把關責任以及加重詐欺犯罪的刑事處罰期待從源頭控管的方式有效提高詐欺犯罪的難度並從嚴處理以刑法嚇阻不法之徒從事詐騙犯罪行為"},{"start":31935.091,"end":31958.786,"text":"我們作為在野黨的立法委員秉於職權重演審查並且在充分討論的過程中提出各項完善法條的建議或主張本席從頭到尾參與法案的審查以及協商程序並且針對第二十條提出修正動議通過規範境外黑媒卡的使用者"},{"start":31959.286,"end":31985.094,"text":"必須以姓名以及護照號碼資料共同登記互相參照達成實名制的效果因而提高詐騙集團利用境外黑媒卡實施詐騙的門檻以杜絕詐騙門號的產生我們並提出附帶決議要求行政院定期檢討法案執行成效以作為未來再修法的參考"},{"start":31985.814,"end":32013.726,"text":"立法院雖然不同黨派有不同立場偶爾爭吵但很高興今天在不分朝野黨派各位委員同仁及行政機關共同努力之下通過打詐專訪也感謝韓國瑜院長在審查過程中特別到委員會關心修法主持協商共同提供檢警同仁打擊詐欺強力後盾共同努力謝謝謝謝牛委員下一位請羅廷維委員發言"},{"start":32023.186,"end":32049.305,"text":"謝主席,詐欺犯罪危害防治條例終於刪讀了。台灣正面臨新形態的狀況,詐騙士氣,詐騙非常猖狂。我們看到現行的法令已經沒辦法因應新形態的詐騙。未來本次的修法有四大的重點,將虛擬資產、服務、事業、人員納入規範。我們境外以供詐欺犯罪所用的設備,"},{"start":32050.406,"end":32068.894,"text":"對境內人犯罪加重刑責擴大不得解釋的要件另外我們增加了社會企業的責任包括看到許多的網路詐欺相關的投遞廣告FB、TikTok、Google等網路平台業者"},{"start":32069.929,"end":32084.916,"text":"若未在台灣設立法律代表不配合移除詐騙廣告情節重大要罰250萬到1億元以下的罰款加重高額犯罪刑度以詐欺獲益達新台幣500萬以上"},{"start":32086.957,"end":32112.776,"text":"最終可處10年有期徒刑若獲益達到1億元可處12年有期徒刑並科3億元的罰金我想這就是本次我們修法不分草野我們一勤努力讓我們的國人能夠更加的安心本次三讀就是彌補現行規範不足專為打擊詐騙所制定的法律為賀止犯罪繼續"},{"start":32114.837,"end":32140.966,"text":"倡狂發聲上下游一條龍都不放過我想新的立法院新的氣象我們揮出重磅就是要打擊詐騙集團過去大家都說台灣是詐騙集團的天堂未來我們更希望新的政府利用這項新的法令來讓人民能夠安居樂業"},{"start":32146.902,"end":32168.609,"text":"謝謝羅委員報告院會現有國民黨黨團針對本次會議7月12日提出延長開會時間處理討論事項請問院會有無異議無異議做以下宣告本案照國民黨黨團提議通過本次會議7月12日延長開會時間處理討論事項"},{"start":32172.745,"end":32174.908,"text":"報院會休息10分鐘,休息之後繼續開會,現在休息。"},{"start":32826.143,"end":32837.307,"text":"報告院會現在繼續開會進行討論事項第二案通訊保障及監察法部分條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":32838.874,"end":32855.765,"text":"本院司法及法治委員會於113年6月6日召開全體委員會議並按審查本案由中、中、九委員交並擔任主席、除邀請提案黨團說明提案要指揮相關機關應邀指派代表列席說明並答會員詢問與會員於聽取報告並詢答完畢後審略大體討論進行逐條審查"},{"start":32861.988,"end":32884.101,"text":"並將全案審查完略。於今選議本案審查完略擬具審查報告提請院會公決須將由黨團協商、院會討論時由中召集委員嘉賓出席說明令通過附帶決議以上。宣讀完畢。請召集委員、中委員嘉賓補充說明。無補充說明本案經審查會決議"},{"start":32885.9,"end":32912.797,"text":"須交由黨團協商。另外,委員林一錦等、委員羅志強等分別提案,分經第一會期第18次、第二十次會議決定,盡負二讀與相關提案併案協商。委員鍾嘉斌等、委員蔡一羽等分別提案,經第一會期第二十二次會議決定,自委員會抽出盡負二讀與相關提案併案協商。"},{"start":32915.013,"end":32934.164,"text":"報告委員會本案現已完成協商請宣讀協商結論議法院黨團協商結論時間113年7月11日星期四下午20時30分地點一廠三樓會議室協商主題通訊保障及監察法部門條文修正草案協商結論"},{"start":32935.236,"end":32949.936,"text":"一、第五條、第六條、第十一條之一、第十五條、第十九條及第三十一條軍造協商內容通過相如附件。二、第十八條之一不予修正,維持現行條文。三、其軍造審查會審查結果通過。四、"},{"start":32952.239,"end":32978.245,"text":"各黨團同意委員鍾嘉斌等18人擬具《通訊保障及監察法》第三條之一、第十一條之一及第十八條之一條文修正草案及委員蔡易瑜等18人擬具《通訊保障及監察法》部分條文修正草案等二案從委員會抽出淨富二讀與相關提案併案在本次協商會議處理協商主持人韓國瑜將啟程協商代表傅坤祺、林思明、洪孟凱"},{"start":32979.841,"end":33000.309,"text":"柯建民、吳思瑤、莊瑞雄、鍾佳冰、黃國昌、黃珊珊、吳春城宣讀完畢。請問院會對以上協商結論無異議。本案主條討論時盡應協商結論處理。通訊保障及監察法請宣讀。第三條之一"},{"start":33001.055,"end":33018.232,"text":"第三條至一本法所稱通信記錄指用戶或電信使用人使用電信服務後公眾電信網路所產生之發送方、接受方之電信號碼、通信時間、使用程度、位置、服務型態、信箱或位置、資訊等記錄。"},{"start":33020.874,"end":33044.424,"text":"本法所稱通訊使用者資料指用戶或電信使用人姓名或名稱身份證明文件字號、地址電信號碼及申請各項電信服務所填列之資料本法所稱網路流量記錄指用戶或電信使用人使用電信服務後供送電信網路所產生之通訊設備識別資料網際網路位置與位置資訊通訊時間、連線用量與封包數量"},{"start":33050.786,"end":33055.952,"text":"網域名稱應用服務類型及協定等未涉及通訊內容是記錄。選舉完畢。"},{"start":33062.796,"end":33081.133,"text":"第五條有事實主任被告或犯罪行為人有下列各款罪嫌之一並違反國家安全經濟秩序或社會秩序情節重大而有相當理由可信其通訊內容與本案有關且不能或難以其他方法搜集或調查證據者得發通訊檢查書"},{"start":33084.176,"end":33093.722,"text":"一、最新本行為森林上由其徒刑之罪二、刑法第100條第二項之欲備內亂罪第101條第二項之欲備暴動內亂罪或第106條第三項第109條第一項及其未遂犯第4項第121條第122條第三項第131條第142條第143條第144條第145條第201條之一"},{"start":33112.214,"end":33131.682,"text":"第二百五十六條第一項及其未遂犯第二百五十七條第一項及其未遂犯第二百九十八條第二項及其未遂犯第三百條第三百六條第一項第三項第三百六條之一第一項第三項第三百十九條之一第二項第三項及該二項之未遂犯"},{"start":33132.242,"end":33151.753,"text":"第三百十九條之二第三百十九條之三第三百十九條之四第三百三十九條第三百三十九條之三第三百三十九條之四或第三百四十六條之罪。三、貪污治罪條例第十一條第一項第四項關於違背職務行為之刑患罪"},{"start":33152.453,"end":33181.156,"text":"四、陳正守司條例第二條第一項第二項或第三條之罪五、藥事法第八十二條第一項第四項或第八十三條第一項第四項之罪六、證券僵硬法第173條第一項之罪七、期貨僵硬法第一百十二條第五項或第一百十三條之罪八、槍炮彈藥刀械管制條例第十二條第一項第二項及該二項之未遂犯第四項或第十三條第二項及其未遂犯第四項之罪"},{"start":33181.896,"end":33199.062,"text":"九、公職人選舉報名法第102條第一項第一款之罪。十、農會法第47條之一第一項或第47條之二第一項第二項之罪。十一、漁會法第50條之一第一項或第50條之二第一項第二項之罪。"},{"start":33199.642,"end":33224.501,"text":"十二、兒童及少年性剝削防治條例第32條、第一項、第三項、第四項及該三項之未遂犯第36條、第一項、第四項及該六項之未遂犯第38條、第一項、第三項及第四項之罪十三、期間防治法第19條至第21條或滋控防治法第8條、第9條之罪十四、組織犯罪防治條例第3條、第一項後段、第4條、第6條或第13條、第三項之罪"},{"start":33228.084,"end":33248.101,"text":"十五、《陸海公軍刑法》第十四條、第二項、第十七條、第三項、第十八條、第三項、第十九條、第三項、第二十條、第五項、第二十二條、第一項前段、第四項、第二十三條、第三項、第二十四條、第二項及其未遂犯、第四項、第五十八條、第五項、第六十三條、第一項之罪"},{"start":33248.861,"end":33265.712,"text":"十六、營業秘密法第十三條之二第一項第二項之罪十七、森林法第五十二條第一項第二項之罪十八、飛機物行李法第四十六條之罪十九、國家安全法第七條第二項第三項及該二項之未遂犯之罪"},{"start":33266.312,"end":33288.212,"text":"二十、反《生動法》第三條、第四條之罪。二十一、《能夠翻譯防事法》第二十九條、第三十條、第三十一條、第三十三條之罪。二十二、詐欺犯罪違害防治條例第四十四條之罪。前項通訊檢查書、偵查中有檢查官依依司法、警察、機關申請、婚姻職權、已書面申請該本法院合法。"},{"start":33288.692,"end":33313.407,"text":"申請書應記載偵他自案號及第11條知識項及監察對象非電信服務用戶應予在明並檢附相關文件及監察對象住居所知調查資料是明有相當理由可信其通訊內容與本案有關且曾以其他方法調查仍無效果或以其他方法調查合理解釋為"},{"start":33314.868,"end":33336.553,"text":"不能達成目的或有重大危險情形。檢察官受理申請案件應於4小時內核付。如案情複雜,得經檢察長同意延長4小時。法律與監獲檢察官核准受理申請案件應於48小時內核付。審判中由法官依職權核發。法官並得與通訊監察書上對執行人員為適當之指示。"},{"start":33342.214,"end":33359.727,"text":"請向申請不合法定程序、不配理由、未經市民或市民部組者法院應予駁回。其申請經法院駁回者不得聲明不符。執行機關應予執行監聽期間內,每15日至少做成一次以上之報告書,說明今天"},{"start":33361.468,"end":33377.273,"text":"監聽行為之進行清新,以及有無繼續執行監聽之需要,指察官或核發通訊檢查書之法官,並得隨時命執行機關提出報告。法官依據經驗法則,論理法則自有新證判斷後,發現有不應繼續執行監聽之情狀時,應撤銷與核發之通訊檢查書。"},{"start":33384.355,"end":33400.805,"text":"通訊監察署則申請應以單一監察對象違憲同意偵探子或相親戀案件,得同時申請數張通訊監察書。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第六條"},{"start":33402.475,"end":33426.644,"text":"第六條有事時族人被告或犯罪行人有犯刑法妨害投票罪證公職員學職報免法總統副總統學職報免法槍炮彈藥刀械管制條例第七條、第八條毒品壞害防治條例第四條如燃燒罪或以投擲炸彈、爆裂物或投放毒物方法恐嚇犯恐嚇取材罪"},{"start":33428.064,"end":33435.788,"text":"組織犯罪防治條例第3條、洗劫防治法第19條、滋控防治法第8條、刑法第222條、第226條、第271條、第302條之一、第325條、第326條、第328條、第330條、第332條、第339條、第339條之三或第339條之四。"},{"start":33451.154,"end":33466.121,"text":"詐欺犯罪危害防止條例第43條第44條為防止他人生命身體財產之急迫危險或有事實足信有其他通訊作為前條第一項犯罪聯絡而進行急迫者。"},{"start":33467.682,"end":33493.935,"text":"司法警察機關得報警該管檢察官以口頭通知執行機關先予執行通訊監察但檢察官應告知執行機關第11條鎖定知識效並於24小時內呈報該管法院不發通訊檢查書檢察機關未受理緊急監察案件應指定專責主任檢察官或檢察官作為緊急聯絡窗口以利掌握偵辦時效"},{"start":33495.476,"end":33502.939,"text":"法院依順之尊則穿口說理前項申請並應於48小時內補發通訊檢查書。未於48小時內補發者應即停止檢查。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第十一條之一"},{"start":33513.601,"end":33526.579,"text":"第十一條之一檢察官司法檢察官為偵查犯罪及收集證據有事時主任通緝行務者次六與本恩之偵查有必要性及關聯性時得調取之偵查"},{"start":33529.523,"end":33546.222,"text":"檢察官為偵查犯罪及搜集證據,有事時足認通信記錄或網路流量記錄,與本案之偵查有必要性及關聯性事,除有急迫進行不及事先申請診問,應引書面申請該國人法院合法調取票。"},{"start":33547.023,"end":33568.113,"text":"申請書之應記載事項準用前條第一項式規定。司法警察官為調查犯罪及蒐集證據、有事實主任通信記錄或網路流量記錄與本案之調查有必要性及關聯性事等依前項規定。報警檢察官許可後,相關外法院申請合法調取票。"},{"start":33569.867,"end":33587.055,"text":"檢察官司法檢察官為偵辦最近本行10年以上有期徒刑之罪、強盜、搶奪、詐欺、恐嚇、擄人勒屬、防害電腦使用、脫逃及違反人口分域防治法、槍炮等要、刀械管制條例、權制走私條例、毒品危害防治條例、"},{"start":33587.995,"end":33616.565,"text":"組織《犯罪防治條例》、《非欺誤心靈法》、《兒童及少年性剝削防治條例》、《洗錢防治法》、《國家安全法反滲透法》、《總統副總統選舉報名法》、《公職員選舉報名法》、《農會法第四十七條之一至第四十七條之三》、《漁會法第五十條之一至第五十條之三》等罪有事實足證通訊記錄或網路流量記錄與本案之偵查有必要性及慣例性事,得由檢察官依職權或司法檢察官"},{"start":33617.506,"end":33633.507,"text":"經檢查官許可後,調取通信記錄或網路流量記錄,不受情額相視限制。依第二項急迫進行調取通信記錄或網路流量記錄後,應於24小時內向法院補行申請調取票。"},{"start":33634.488,"end":33663.536,"text":"釣取票應記載下令事項一、按由二、應釣取至通信記錄或網路流量記錄三、有效期間,與其不得執行其釣取後應將釣取票交回之意旨第二項、第三項及第五項就申請經法院補回者不得聲明不符合法釣取票之程序不公開之有釣取第七條之監察對象通信記錄、網路流量記錄或通訊使用者資料必要者"},{"start":33664.136,"end":33682.697,"text":"由縱領國家情報工作機關向電信事業、甚至公眾電信網路者或郵政事業調取,不受前八項之限制。檢察官、司法檢察官為偵查、分罪及蒐集證據,經用戶或電信使用者同意,得調取其通訊使用者資料,"},{"start":33683.197,"end":33703.911,"text":"通信記錄或網路流量記錄不受第一項之第八項之限制通訊使用者資料調取之程序資料保存、銷毀、監督、集合等相關事項之辦法將法務部、會統、內政部並會商相關機關領知宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第十四條"},{"start":33705.1,"end":33719.135,"text":"第十四條通訊監察者執行機關及處所的依依申請機關之申請定之法官依職權核發通訊監察書時由核發人指定之依第七條規定核發時依同"},{"start":33720.917,"end":33747.047,"text":"第1屆事頁設置公眾電信網路者及郵政事頁有協助執行通訊監查之一物,其協助內容為執行機關得使用該事頁之通訊監查相關設施與其人員之協助。其項因協助執行通訊監查所生之批要費用,於執行後得請求執行機關支付。其項目及費額由目的事頁主管機關匯收有關機關訂定公告之。"},{"start":33748.207,"end":33770.807,"text":"電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者,經通訊監察制建置機關指定者,其通訊系統應具有配合執行監察制功能,並附有協助監察機關建置,維持通訊監察系統之義務,但以符合監察實質科技及記憶上合理性為限,並不得逾越期待可能性。"},{"start":33772.248,"end":33795.701,"text":"其向協助建制通訊監察系統所生之必要費用由建制機關負擔另應協助維持通訊監察功能專長作業所生之必要費用由目的事業主管機關會商有關機關訂定公告之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過徵定第十四條之一"},{"start":33796.328,"end":33816.38,"text":"第十四條之一電信事業及涉事公眾電信網路者由保存及協助執行調取通訊使用者資料、通信記錄之一物。電信事業及涉事公眾電信網路者經通訊監察之間之機關指定者由保存及協助執行調取網路流量記錄之一物。"},{"start":33816.94,"end":33844.698,"text":"低信誓業及涉事公眾電信網路者應協助執行調取前二項資料或記錄所生之必要費用,於執行後得請求執行機關支付。低信誓業及涉事公眾電信網路者經通訊監察之建設機關指定者其通訊或網路系統應具有保存其執行調取網路流量記錄之功能,並以公眾電信網路性能可與提供者違憲。"},{"start":33846.955,"end":33866.544,"text":"電信稅及設置公眾電信網路者經通訊監察之建設機關指定者為建設保存網路流量記錄之系統與維持保存及執行調取網路流量記錄功能正常作業所深知必要費用由建設機關負擔。網路流量記錄系統之設置方式"},{"start":33867.364,"end":33879.131,"text":"保存方式保存期間查詢生作業程序、調取這項目、監督費額及其他相關事項之範法由法務部、會同內政部並會商、國家通訊傳播委員會及相關機關頂之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第15條"},{"start":33887.523,"end":33902.441,"text":"第十五條、第五條、第六條及第七條電訊通訊監察案件之執行機關於監察通訊結束時應給訊名受監察人之姓名住所或居所該監察案件之第十一條第一項各款"},{"start":33902.921,"end":33921.176,"text":"及通訊監察署合法機關文號實際監察期間有無獲得監察目的之通訊資料及究竟程序報由檢察官、縱理國家警報工作機關、懲報法院通知受監察人如任通知有妨害監察目的之餘或不能通知者應以並懲報。"},{"start":33923.097,"end":33945.492,"text":"通訊檢查結束後檢察官縱領國家情報工作機關與一個月仍未為檢証日呈報者法院應於14日內主動通知受檢查人但不能通知者不在此限法院對於第一項呈報除有具體理由族人通知有妨害檢查目的之餘或不能通知知情行為應通知受檢查人"},{"start":33946.212,"end":33966.858,"text":"前項不通真正原因消滅後,執行機關應報由檢察官、縱領國家情報工作機關呈報法院補刑通知。原因未消滅者應於前項呈報後每三個月向法院補刑呈報未消滅之情形,與其未呈報者法院應於14日內主動通知受監察人。"},{"start":33968.499,"end":33982.593,"text":"關於執行機關全貿事項經法院審查後,將由司法事務官通知受監察人與該受監察之電信服務用戶,但不能通知者不在此限。且向受監察之電信服務用戶"},{"start":33986.577,"end":34006.067,"text":"前六項規定於依本法規定調取他人網路流量記錄之線型亦准用之但實施第十條之一第四項調取網路流量記錄之線型應有執行機關通知。詢問完畢。照協商條文通過第十八條之一維持線型條文第十九條"},{"start":34006.892,"end":34036.372,"text":"第十九條違反本法或其他法律之規定監察他人通訊或泄露提供使用監察通訊所得之資料者負損害賠償責任。被害人雖非採取上次損害亦得請求賠償相當之金額,其名譽被侵害者並得請求為回復名譽之適當處分。其向請求權不得讓與或繼承,但以盡而賠償之請求權,以依契約承諾或以起訴者不在此限。"},{"start":34037.233,"end":34046.549,"text":"前三項規定與違反本法或其他法律之規定,吊取他人通訊行為準資料及網路流量記錄之前行為準用之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":34050.782,"end":34079.432,"text":"第29條經常探討人質通訊而有相連執行指引者不法一、依法律規定而為二、電信事業涉及公眾電信網路者或郵政事業人員基於提供公共電信、公眾電信網路或郵政服務之目的而依有關法律執行三、監察者為通訊之一方或以的通訊之一方實現統一而非出於不法目的宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第31條"},{"start":34080.97,"end":34100.368,"text":"第31條有協助執行通訊監察義務職電信事業、設置公眾電信網路者及郵政事業違反第十四條第二上市規定者由鋼管目的事業主管機關處以新台幣五十萬元以上五百萬元相反還,經通知限期遵行而仍不遵行者按次處罰。"},{"start":34101.409,"end":34130.197,"text":"由保存及協助調取通訊使用者資料、通信記錄或網路流量記錄義務之電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者違反第十四條之一、第一項或第二項之規定者亦同對電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者之主管機關以本法所為之行政處分不符者直接使用行政訴訟程序。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過"},{"start":34132.298,"end":34135.263,"text":"法院會全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議?無異議請宣讀經過二讀之條文"},{"start":34146.107,"end":34162.68,"text":"第3條之一本法所申通信記錄使用戶或電信使用人使用電信服務後公眾電信網路所產生之發送方及送方之電信號碼、通信時間、使用程度、位置、服務型態、信箱或位置、資訊等記錄。"},{"start":34164.341,"end":34176.048,"text":"本法所稱通訊使用者資料只用物或電信使用人姓名或名稱身份證明文件字號地址電信號碼及申請各項電信服務所填列之資料"},{"start":34178.004,"end":34203.581,"text":"文法所申網路流量記錄只用戶或電信使用人使用電信服務後公眾電信網路所產生之通訊設備識別資料、網際網路位置與位置資訊、通訊時間連線用量與封標數量、網域名稱、應用服務類型及協定等,未涉及通訊內容之記錄。第五條"},{"start":34205.393,"end":34221.887,"text":"有事實,族人被弄或犯罪行為仍有限量各款罪嫌之一,並危害國家安全、經濟秩序或社會秩序情節重大,而有相當理由可吸引其通訊內容與本案有關,且不能或難以其他方法搜集或調查證據者。"},{"start":34222.788,"end":34233.558,"text":"得發通訊檢查書。一、最新本行為三年以上由其徒刑追罪若刑法第100條第二項之欲備內亂罪第101條第二項之欲備暴動內亂罪或第106條第三項第109條第一項及行為水分"},{"start":34241.465,"end":34244.086,"text":"第四項、第121條、第122條、第三項、第131條、第142條、第143條、第144條、第145條、第201條之一、第256條、第一項及其未隨範、第257條、第一項及其未隨範、第298條、第二項及其未隨範"},{"start":34262.535,"end":34268.697,"text":"第300條、第302條、第1項、第3項、第302條之一、第1項、第3項、第319條之一、第2項、第3項及該位項之未隨本。第319條之3、第319條之4、第339條、第339條之3、第339條之4或第346條之最。"},{"start":34287.743,"end":34314.549,"text":"三、貪污治罪條例第十一條、第一項、第四項供予違背職務行為之行賄罪。四、純自總司條例第二條、第一項、第二項或第三條之罪。五、要事法第八十二條、第一項、第四項或第八十三條、第一項、第四項之罪。六、證券交易法第173條、第一項之罪。七、集貨交易法第112條、第五項或第一百十三條之罪。"},{"start":34315.849,"end":34338.199,"text":"八、強迫彈藥凍卸管制條例第十二條第一項第二項及該二項之未遂犯第四項或第十三條第二項及其未遂犯第四項之罪。九、公職人員選舉報名法第102條第一項第一款之罪。十、農會法第四十七條之一第一項或第四十七條之二第一項第二項之罪。"},{"start":34339.74,"end":34367.381,"text":"十一、愚匯法第五十條之一、第一項或第五十條之二、第一項、第二項之罪。十二、兒童接受年性文宿防治條例第三十二條、第一項、第三項、第四項及該三項之未遂犯、第三十六條、第一項、第四項及該二項之未遂犯、第三十八條、第一項、第三項及第四項之罪。十三、期限防治法第十九條之第一、二十一條或司法第八條、第九條之罪。"},{"start":34367.981,"end":34396.421,"text":"十四、組織犯罪法制條例第三條第一項後段、第四條、第六條或第十一條第三項之罪。十五、陸海公區刑法第十四條第二項、第十七條第三項、第十八條第三項、第十九條第三項、第二十條第五項、第二十二條第一項前段、第四項、第二十三條第三項、第二十四條第二項及其未遂犯、第四項、第五十八條第五項、第六十三條第一項之罪。十六、"},{"start":34398.403,"end":34414.219,"text":"營業祕密法第十三條之外第一項、第二項之罪。十七、森林法第五十二條第一項、第二項之罪。十八、廢棄物行李法第四十六條之罪。十九、國家安全法第七條第二項、第三項及該問上之未遂犯之罪。"},{"start":34415.68,"end":34430.188,"text":"二十、反滲透法第三條、第四條之罪。二十一、人口翻譯防止法第二十九條、第三十條、第三十一條、第三十三條之罪。二十二、詐欺違犯罪危害防治條例第四十四條之罪。"},{"start":34431.088,"end":34456.468,"text":"前項通訊檢查書。偵查中有檢查官依司法警察機關申請或依職權以書面申請該委員法院核發。申請書應記載偵查自案號及第11條知識項及檢查對象非電信服務用戶應與在名,並檢附相關文件及檢查對象駐居所之調查資料。市民有相當理由可信其通訊內容與本案有關。"},{"start":34457.368,"end":34483.07,"text":"且曾以其他方法調查人物效果或以其他方法調查合理顯示為不能達成目的或有重大危險情形。檢察官受理申請案件應於4小時內核復。如案情複雜得經檢察長同意延長4小時,法運與監獲檢察官核准受理申請案件應於48小時內核復。審判中由法官依職權核發。"},{"start":34485.092,"end":34512.256,"text":"法官並等於通訊監察書上對執行人員為適當之指示,其向申請不合法定程序不配理由,未經是名或是名不足者,法院應與不回。其申請經法院不回者不得聲明不符。執行機關應與執行監聽期間內,每15日至少做成一次以上之報告書,說明監聽行為之進行進行,以及有無繼續執行監聽之需要。"},{"start":34512.996,"end":34539.697,"text":"檢察官後核發《通訊監察書》之法官並得隨審命執行機關提出報告。法官依據經驗法則、亂理法則、自由心證判斷後發現有不應繼續執行監聽之情況時應撤銷原核發之《通訊監察書》。《通訊監察書》之申請應以單一監察對象為限同意徵他自或相親連案件得同時申請數張《通訊監察書》。"},{"start":34544.554,"end":34567.64,"text":"第六條有事實族人被告或犯罪行人有分刑法防害投票罪稱公職有緣選舉方便法總統副總統選舉方便法槍爆彈搖刀卸管制條例第七條、第八條毒品危害防治條例第四條擄人勒索罪或以投擲炸彈、爆裂物或投放毒物方法犯恐嚇取材罪"},{"start":34568.26,"end":34576.262,"text":"祖師犯罪防治條例第三條期限防治法第十九條資管防治法第八條刑法第222條、第226條、第271條、第302條之一、第325條、第326條、第328條、第330條、第332條、第339條、第339條之三或第339條之四。"},{"start":34591.807,"end":34608.705,"text":"抓欺犯罪危害防治條例第43條第44條為防止他人生命身體財產之急迫危險或有事實足信其足信有其他通訊作為檢調第一項犯罪聯絡而進行急迫者"},{"start":34610.227,"end":34620.294,"text":"司法警察機關得報警該管檢察官以口頭通知執行機關先予執行通訊監察但檢察官應告知執行機關第11條鎖定知識項並於24小時內呈報該管法院補發通訊監察書"},{"start":34629.601,"end":34645.057,"text":"檢查機關未受理緊急監察案件應決定專責主任檢察官或檢察官作為緊急聯繫窗口以利掌握偵辦時效。法院醫學士專責窗口受理前項申請並應於48小時內補發通訊檢查書。未於48小時內補發者應即停止監察。"},{"start":34653.686,"end":34682.979,"text":"第十一條之一檢察官、司法警察官為偵查犯罪及蒐集證據有事時主任通訊使用者資料與本案追偵查有必要性及關聯性時得調取之檢察官為偵查犯罪及蒐集證據有事時主任通信記錄或網路流量記錄與本案追偵查有必要性及關聯性時除有急迫進行不及事先申請者外應引書面申請該委員法院核發調取票"},{"start":34683.599,"end":34710.339,"text":"申請書之應記載事項準用前條第一項是規定司法檢察官為調查犯罪及蒐集證據有事實族人通信記錄或網路流量記錄與本案之調查有必要性及關聯性時得依前項規定報請檢察官許可後相關委員法院申請合法調取票檢察官司法檢察官為偵辦最新本行10年以上有期徒刑之罪"},{"start":34712.06,"end":34729.239,"text":"強盜、搶奪、詐欺、恐嚇、擄人勒鼠、妨害電腦使用、脫逃及違反《人口繁殖防治法》、《強暴彈藥》、《多性管制條例》、《全制走私條例》、《毒品危害防治條例》、《組織犯罪防治條例》、《廢棄物性零法》、《兒童及少年性剝削防治條例》、《洗錢防治法》。"},{"start":34729.919,"end":34749.019,"text":"國家安全法、反滲透法、總統副總統稅局報名法、公職人員稅局報名法、農會法第47條之一至第47條之三、農會法第50條之一至第50條之三等罪有事實主任通信記錄或網路流量記錄與本案之偵查有必要性及關聯性時。"},{"start":34751.401,"end":34768.488,"text":"來由檢察官依職權或司法警察官經檢察官許可後,調取通信記錄或網路流量記錄,不受刑而享受限制。依第二項急迫進行調取通信記錄或網路流量記錄後,依與24小時內,將法院補刑申請調取票。"},{"start":34772.429,"end":34790.8,"text":"調取票應記載下列事項一、案由二、應調取至通信紀錄或網路流量紀錄三、有效期間與其不得執行調取及調取後應將調取票交回至一致第二項、第三項及第五項就申請經法院補回者不得聲明不符"},{"start":34791.4,"end":34820.502,"text":"合法調取票之程序不公開之由調取第七條之監察對象通信信錄網路流量紀錄或通訊使用者資料必要者由縱理國家情報工作機關向電信事業設置公眾電信網路者或郵政事業調取不受其八項之限制檢察官、司法警察官為檢查犯罪及蒐集證據經用戶或電信使用人同意得調取其通訊使用者資料"},{"start":34820.982,"end":34834.436,"text":"通信記錄或網路流量記錄不受第一項制、第八項制限制通訊使用者資料調取制程序資料保存、銷毀、監督、集合等相關事項執法修法務部、會統、內政部並匯裝相關機關頂支"},{"start":34840.714,"end":34855.153,"text":"第十四條通訊檢查之申請機關及處所等依申請機關之申請定之法官依只選核發通訊檢查書時由核發人指定之依第七條規定核發時依同"},{"start":34855.794,"end":34882.551,"text":"定性事業設置公眾電信網路者及郵政事業有協助執行通訊監察之義務。其協助內容為執行機關得使用該事業之通訊監察相關設施與其人員之協助。其項應協助執行通訊監察所生之必要費用與執行後得請求執行機關支付。其項募集費額由目的事業主管機關會商有關機關訂定公告之。"},{"start":34883.531,"end":34905.627,"text":"電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者,經通訊監察制建設機關指定者,其通訊系統應具有配合執行監察制功能,並附有協助建設機關建制,維持通訊監察系統之義務,但以符合建設實質科技及經濟算合理性為限,並目的逾越其等可能性。"},{"start":34906.367,"end":34924.671,"text":"且向協助建制通訊監察系統所生之必要費用由建制機關負擔。另應協助維持通訊監察功能正常作業所生之必要費用由目的事業主管機關會商有關機關訂定公告之。"},{"start":34926.843,"end":34946.914,"text":"第十四條之一,定性事業及涉事公眾電信網路者由保存及協助執行調取通訊使用資料通信記錄之義務。定性事業及涉事公眾電信網路者經通訊監察之建築機關指定者由保存及協助執行調取網路流量記錄之義務。"},{"start":34948.295,"end":34975.544,"text":"電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者應協助執行調取前二項資料或記錄所申知必要費用與執行後得請求執行機關支付電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者經通訊監察之建設機關指定者其通訊或網路系統應具有保存及執行調取網路流量記錄之功能並以公眾電信網路性能可予提供者為限"},{"start":34976.184,"end":34995.054,"text":"定期事業及設置公眾電信網路者經通訊監察之建置機關指定者為建置保存網路流量記錄之系統與維持保存及執行調取網路流量記錄功能專長作業所深知必要費用由建置機關負擔。網路流量記錄系統"},{"start":34997.099,"end":35009.303,"text":"之設置方式保存方式保存期間查詢正作業程序、調取這項目、監督費額及其他相關事項之辦法由訪問部會同內政部並會成國家通訊傳播委員會及相關機關領域。"},{"start":35013.124,"end":35033.684,"text":"第15條、第5條、第6條及第7條、第2項通訊監查案件致行機關與監查通訊結束時,因其虛名受監查人之姓名、住所或居所。該監查案件之第11條、第1項各款及通訊監查書合法機關文後實際監查期間有無獲得監查目的之通訊資料。"},{"start":35034.745,"end":35045.446,"text":"及救濟程序包郵檢察官、縱領國家情報工作機關傳報法院通知受監察人如任通知有妨害監察目的之餘或不能通知者應以併傳報。"},{"start":35048.601,"end":35070.709,"text":"通緒監察結束後,檢察官、縱領國家警報工作機關與一個月仍未為前項之懲罰者,法院應於14日內主動通知受監察人,但不能通知者不在此限。法院對於第一項懲罰,除有具體理由主任通知有妨害監察目的之餘或不能通知這起行為,應通知受監察人。"},{"start":35071.67,"end":35092.892,"text":"前向不通知之原因消滅後,執行機關應報由檢察官、縱領國家警報工作機關呈報法院補刑通知,原因未消滅者應予前向呈報後每三個委員,上法院補刑呈報未消滅者情形,與其未呈報者法院應予14日內主動通知受監察人。"},{"start":35094.134,"end":35109.072,"text":"會議執行機關全報事項經法院審查後就由司法事務官通知受監察人與該受監察之電信服務用戶但不能通知者不在此限前項受監察之電信服務用戶包括個人、機關購貨、團體等"},{"start":35111.034,"end":35123.582,"text":"前六項規定予依本法規定調取他人網路流量記錄這情形亦准用之但實施第11條之一第四項調取網路流量記錄這情形應有執行機關通知"},{"start":35126.246,"end":35147.316,"text":"第十九條違反本法或其他法律之規定監察他人通訊或洩漏提供使用監察通訊所得知資料者負損害賠償責任。被害人雖非採取損失損害亦得請求賠償相當之金額,請名譽被禁害者並得請求為回覆名譽之適當處分。"},{"start":35148.516,"end":35166.588,"text":"前項請求權不得讓與或計準,但以金額賠償者請求權,以依契約承諾或以起訴者不在此限。前三項規定與違反本法或行政法律規定、調取他人通訊使用者資料及網路流量記錄知情行為準用之。"},{"start":35167.569,"end":35192.979,"text":"第29條,監察他認知通訊而有下令執行之意者不妨。一、依法律規定而為。二、電信事業設置公眾電信網路者或郵政事業人員基於提供公共電信、公眾電信網路或郵政服務之目的而依有關法令執行。三、監察者為通訊之意方或已得通訊之意方事先同意而非出於不法目的。"},{"start":35194.68,"end":35208.796,"text":"第三十一條有協助執行通訊監察義務之電信事業、設置公眾電信網路者及郵政事業違反第十四條第二項之規定者由該委目的事業主管機關處以新台幣50萬元以上500萬元下罰款"},{"start":35210.858,"end":35237.763,"text":"經通知現行遵行而仍不遵行者按此處罰由保存及協助調取通訊使用者資料、通訊記錄或網路流量記錄義務之電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者為法第十四條之一、第一項或第二項之規定者一同對電信事業及設置公眾電信網路者之主管機關依本法所為之行政處分不符者直接適用行政訴訟程序。"},{"start":35240.154,"end":35252.282,"text":"宣讀完畢法院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒有文字修正作以下決議"},{"start":35254.465,"end":35273.294,"text":"通訊保障及監察法增訂第十四條之一條文並將第三條之一、第五條、第六條、第十一條之一、第十四條、第十五條、第十九條、第二十九條及第三十一條條文修正通過。繼續處理"},{"start":35284.056,"end":35289.104,"text":"繼續處理審查會所作之附帶決議,請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容。"},{"start":35300.128,"end":35322.1,"text":"通過附帶決議一項請法務部與司法院針對調取流量紀錄相關通知、救濟及加強監督等程序與修正草案第十四條之一第六項之授權執法內通盤考量。宣讀完畢。報告委員會依協商結論照案通過。報告委員會"},{"start":35327.639,"end":35340.224,"text":"完成立法程序後由委員登記發言每位委員發言時間兩分鐘並截止發言登記我們現在請羅志強委員發言"},{"start":35356.872,"end":35378.379,"text":"立法停打詐也請賴清德洗刷詐騙國恥通訊保障及監察法經過多次審查跟政黨協商完成三讀其實包括其他的打詐法律目的就是希望能夠嚇阻台灣越來越張狂的詐騙事件"},{"start":35380.043,"end":35408.288,"text":"台灣已成詐騙的地獄蔡英文總統執政八年對於打詐可說是一籌莫展詐欺案發生一年近三萬八千件詐損超過八十八億雙雙創下歷史新高蔡英文執政八年台灣的詐欺案成長竟然高達1.8倍台灣人民痛苦不堪詐騙被害者常常家破人亡"},{"start":35409.918,"end":35423.918,"text":"賴慶德總統說他要全力打詐但殘酷今年6月也就是賴總統的卓內閣第一個完整的執政月份詐欺發生數相較於去年同期成長三成"},{"start":35424.977,"end":35439.837,"text":"打詐不分黨派不分意識形態的全民共識所以當行政院提出打詐是法在野黨也全力配合可是在打詐的同時也必須保護好人民的秘密通訊自由"},{"start":35440.598,"end":35458.583,"text":"所以在這個禮拜我三度到協商會場針對科證法、刑事訴訟法還有通保法提出意見希望找出跨黨派、跨行政立法的共識希望能夠用公開透明、事後保障人民權益的方式來"},{"start":35460.403,"end":35481.111,"text":"繼能夠確保打詐進行也能夠杜絕政府濫權那也很欣慰我提出的這個修正案也得到這個草野的同意而今天也一併的納入今天的修法打詐釋法授予我們執政者一個打詐的武器也希望大家能夠真的"},{"start":35486.897,"end":35487.377,"text":"主席、本院委員"},{"start":35511.089,"end":35526.427,"text":"台灣民眾黨黨團在這個會期為了要讓我們基層的檢警手上能夠有有效的工具來偵查現在使用日新月異科技的各式各樣的犯罪集團"},{"start":35527.915,"end":35551.33,"text":"在台灣社會當中網路犯罪、詐欺犯罪、駭客攻擊各式各樣新型態的犯罪在犯罪組織推波助瀾之下造成了非常多人民的受害。面對這樣子的狀況我們不能夠再容許"},{"start":35553.115,"end":35578.682,"text":"讓壞人精神抖擻好人卻疲憊地在後面追趕。因此我們認為有必要讓我們辛苦第一線的警察、調查局的同仁能夠在適當的科技方法的輔助之下有效地打擊犯罪。與此同時我們也深知"},{"start":35580.112,"end":35600.773,"text":"對於個人的基本權利、隱私權、保護的重要性也正是因為這個樣子配合著我們在刑事訴訟法當中推出的科技偵查專章在這一次通保法的修正當中我們雖然因應"},{"start":35602.23,"end":35631.045,"text":"打擊犯罪實際上面的需要允許調取網路流量紀錄但與此同時我們要求必須要採取法官保留的原則希望能夠兼顧打擊犯罪跟人權保障的需求希望這一次通保法完成的修正能夠更有效的打擊網路犯罪與詐欺犯罪保障全體國人的權益。謝謝"},{"start":35635.995,"end":35648.183,"text":"謝謝黃委員報告院會各黨團推派委員均已發言完畢討論事項第三案海洋保育法草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":35650.581,"end":35666.417,"text":"願內政委員會於113年3月13日、3月28日、5月9日及6月6日分別召開決定委員會議審查本案,由吳兆景委員起名擔任主席,除邀請提案委員說明提案要旨,並邀請相關機關列席報告並備諮詢。"},{"start":35669.298,"end":35688.189,"text":"於報告及詢答結束後進行逐條審查與會員歷經多次討論與審慎演算後將全案併案審查文具令通過附帶決議八項全案併案審查文具擬具審查報告提報約會討論約會討論前不須交由黨團寫生約會討論時由吳召集委員啟名作補充說明宣布完畢請召集委員吳委員啟名補充說明"},{"start":35699.4,"end":35728.479,"text":"不補充說明本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案盡依審查會意見處理現在進行逐條討論海洋保育法草案請宣讀名稱海洋保育法宣讀完畢照審查會名稱通過第一章第一章總則宣讀完畢"},{"start":35729.608,"end":35753.983,"text":"照審查會章名通過第一條第一條為保護海洋生態環境保育海洋生物多樣性合理利用海洋生物資源協調並促進海洋保護區之規劃及執行推動海洋保育教育特制定本法宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過委員楊瓊英等委員羅廷偉等委員蘇巧慧等臺灣民眾黨黨團委員高金素梅等"},{"start":35759.56,"end":35781.297,"text":"分別提案第二條均不予採納第二條第二條本法所生主管機關在中央委海洋委員會在局長室為局長室政府在縣市為縣市政府前向局長室縣市主管機關之管轄範圍由中央主管機關公告之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第三條"},{"start":35782.574,"end":35809.703,"text":"第三條本法用詞定義如下一、海洋生物指海洋動物海洋植物及海洋其他生物二、海洋生物多樣性指所有海洋範圍內活的生物體中之變異性包括物種內物種之間及生態系統之多樣性三、保育指基於海洋生物多樣性及自然生態平衡之原則對於海洋生物所為保護、賦育、管理之行為"},{"start":35811.869,"end":35837.421,"text":"四、海洋保護區指一處海域或該海域與其匹聯之陸域具有生物多樣性、特殊自然景觀、文化資產或永續利用之生態資源等依本法或其他法律所劃定進行保護之區域。五、海洋庇護區指依本法所劃定之海洋保護區並得以核心區、緩衝區及永續利用區進行分區管理者。"},{"start":35839.13,"end":35862.932,"text":"六、核心區只為長期保護海洋生物生態環境、生物多樣性並提供學術研究因應而保護且限制人員進入及所有開放利用行為所劃定之區域。七、緩衝區指零件或環繞與核心區針對人為活動進行管理,限制以保護核心區可作為研究發展所劃定之區域。"},{"start":35863.573,"end":35886.428,"text":"八、永續利用區及於核心區緩衝區之外為在無礙海洋自然生態平衡之前庭下容許海洋生物生態環境、生物多樣性及天然資源之利用以獲取其文化教育、學術經濟等效益所劃定之區域,並永續管理及發展其資源。宣讀完畢"},{"start":35887.887,"end":35905.754,"text":"照審查會條文通過委員楊瓊英等、委員羅廷瑋等、委員羅美玲等、台灣民眾黨黨團分別提案第五條、委員賴瑞榮等提案第四條均不予採納。第四條"},{"start":35906.906,"end":35924.201,"text":"第四條為達成海洋生物多樣性質目標主管機關應採取各種海洋保育措施以保護海洋生物棲息環境協調並促進海洋保護區之整合規劃及執行宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第五條"},{"start":35924.963,"end":35952.886,"text":"第五條,海洋庇護區之劃定變更或廢止及海洋庇護區保育計劃宣禮定前,是其原住民族土地及海域部分、中央主管機關應會同中央原住民族主管機關並依原住民族基本法及海洋基本法之規定辦理宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第二章第二章海洋保護區宣讀完畢照審查會章名通過第六條"},{"start":35953.683,"end":35975.415,"text":"第六條本法鎖定海洋保護區之類型包括項鍊地區之海域或該海域與其匹聯之陸域一、野生動物保護區二、野生動物中央棲息環境三、國家公園及國家自然公園四、國家風景特定區海域資源保護區五、水產動植物繁殖保育區"},{"start":35976.335,"end":36000.888,"text":"六、水下文化資產保護區、七、自然保留區、八、地質公園、九、中要濕地、十、海洋庇護區、十一、一其他法律規定化涉及保護區、中央主管機關等認定海洋保護區以外其他有效保育措施之區域,其認定標準由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第七條。"},{"start":36002.406,"end":36025.978,"text":"第七條,中央主管機關應會同個中央目的事業主管機關定定轉體海洋保護區管理政策方針,報警行政院核定後實施,其變更時一同。前項轉體海洋保護區管理政策方針內容應包括下列事項。一、政策目標,任海洋保護區之分類及分級,深海洋保護區之規劃及管理。"},{"start":36027.279,"end":36048.434,"text":"四、海洋保護區之監測五、海洋保護區之檢討及成效評估六、其他與海洋保護區管理有關之事項第一項整體海洋保護區管理政策方針實施後中央主管機關應每五年至少檢討一次。依其他法律規定劃設之海洋保護區"},{"start":36049.555,"end":36075.08,"text":"其保護區名稱、內容、劃設程序、辦理機關及管理事項從其規定納入整體海洋保護區管理政策方針之一部。整體海洋保護區管理政策方針涉及相關機關執行有異議時得由中央主管機關協調、協調不成者報警行政院決定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第八條"},{"start":36076.038,"end":36103.246,"text":"第八條,中央主管機關的這海洋生態系統有特別保護必要,且未經其他主管機關化身為海洋保護區者,化定為海洋庇護區。中央主管機關未辦理前項業務應涉審議會,由專家學者、原住民、漁民團體、保育團體等民間團體及有關機關代表組成,其中不具官方身份之代表人數,不得超於委員總人數二分之一。"},{"start":36103.886,"end":36131.281,"text":"原住民及漁民團體之代表總人數不得超越委員總人數三分之一。審議會之決議以委員過半數之出席出席委員超過三分之二同意行之海洋庇護區之核心區劃定至該區域之既由使用人遭受特別犧牲之損失者應予補償第一項海洋庇護區之劃定基準變更廢止程序第二項審議會之設置組成"},{"start":36133.622,"end":36153.2,"text":"併作與前項母廠之條件。繼轉其其他相關事項之本法由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過委員楊瓊英等、委員羅廷偉等、臺灣民眾黨黨團分別提案第十條、委員高金、宿美等提案第九條、軍部與採納第九條。"},{"start":36155.683,"end":36178.459,"text":"第九條,中央主管機關劃定海洋庇護區後,應會上有關機關立定海洋庇護區保育計畫,並公開展覽30日及舉行公聽會,其變更或廢除時一同。其向公開展覽與公聽會之日起及地點,應登載與政府公報新聞紙、網信文或以其他適當方法廣泛周知。"},{"start":36179.119,"end":36203.941,"text":"人民、法人或團體等於公開展覽期間內以書面在名、姓名或名稱及地址向中央主管機關提出意見。中央主管機關因與公告實施海洋庇護區保育計畫後將計畫登載於政府公報新聞誌、網信網路或以其他適當方法廣泛周知。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過委員楊瓊英等、委員羅廷偉等"},{"start":36205.96,"end":36231.947,"text":"臺灣民眾黨黨團分別提案第十二條均不予採納。第十條第十條任何人及海陸與交通工具進入進入海洋庇護區之核心區但有項鍊進行之一者不在此限一、國際安全或軍事目的二、海域巡防犯罪長期漁業巡護、污染防治、海難救助、航路標示設置管理"},{"start":36232.387,"end":36257.083,"text":"海洋保育、學校文化資產之保存或管理等公務目的。三、全國連續不停迅速通過且未從事航行無外之活動。四、經中央主管機關同意之科學研究監測或調查等活動。前項第四款申請同意之程序應解封文件、審議作業、廢止同意及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關會商有關機關領執,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":36260.495,"end":36279.247,"text":"照審查會條文通過第11條。第11條,海洋庇護區之緩衝區內,非經中央主管機關許可,禁止從事下列行為,但符合前條第一項的登書,第一款或第二款其行政不在此限。一、學想養殖。二、採捕海洋生物。"},{"start":36279.887,"end":36303.86,"text":"三、開挖巡山航道或施作海洋工程。四、鋪設電纜管道設施或結構。五、從事探礦或採礦。從事前項第一款或第二款行為。符合中央主管機關公告至一定種類、數量、方式、範圍或期間等條件者免申請許可。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第十二條。"},{"start":36304.656,"end":36330.401,"text":"第十二條海洋庇護區執勇去利用區內飛行中央主管機關許可禁止從事下列行為但符合第十條第一項斷屬第一款或第二款行行者不在此縣一、開挖巨深航道或施作海洋工程二、鋪設電纜管道設施或結構三、從事探望或採礦宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第十三條"},{"start":36331.36,"end":36355.274,"text":"第十三條前二條申請許可是條件作業程序分析許可及其他相關事項之被報由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過委員賴瑞榮等提案第十四條不予採納。第三章第三章海洋生物保育宣讀完畢照審查會章名通過第十四條"},{"start":36356.175,"end":36380.415,"text":"第十四條為保育海洋生物中央主管機關應會商其他目的事業主管機關公告下列事項一、海洋游戲或休閒活動之限制禁止或其他應遵行事項二、川普海上航行活動或作業之限制禁止或其他應遵行事項三、與海洋使用柴木器具之限制禁止或其他應遵行事項"},{"start":36381.315,"end":36402.72,"text":"四、其他與保育海洋生物有關之人為活動之限制禁止或其他應遵行事項。中央主管金管辦理前項業務準用第八條第二項規定。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過,臺灣民眾黨黨團提案第十八條不予採納。第十五條"},{"start":36403.598,"end":36430.119,"text":"第十五條為執行海洋生物資源調查或海洋庇護區保育計畫主管機關或受託機關公、法人團體得派員出示證明文件進入公私有土地、住所或海域進行調查及實施保育措施其涉及軍事機密者應會同該管軍事機關為之。其項進行公私有土地、住所或海域之所有人使用人或管理人不得規避、妨礙或拒絕。"},{"start":36431.58,"end":36448.153,"text":"進行第一項調查或實施各項保育措施,欲設有違章之土地或實施各項保育措施時,主管機關應事先通知公司有土地、住所或海域之所有人使用人或管理人,通知未能收納時,等以公告方式為之。"},{"start":36449.435,"end":36473.837,"text":"調查機關構法人團擬或保育人員,進行調查或實施各項保育措施,應客遵正當保育程序,以符合比例原則之方式為之,對於受檢之工商、軍事秘密應予保密。為進行第一項調查或實施各項保育措施,至公司有土地、住所或海域之所有人,使用人遭受特別犧牲之損失者應予補償。"},{"start":36475.738,"end":36489.088,"text":"進行第一項調查或實施各項保育措施之方式通知補償之條件及轉結其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第16條"},{"start":36490.27,"end":36506.927,"text":"第十六條主管機關的指派海洋保育觀察員在傳播海洋設施、海域工程或其中為從事觀察、監測及蒐集資料等任務必要時得請求海岸巡防機關或警察機關協助。此項進行"},{"start":36508.108,"end":36536.214,"text":"傳播海洋設施或海域工程之所有人、使用人或管理人不得規避法案或拒絕海洋保育觀察員執行觀察、監測及搜集資料等任務時得由傳播海洋設施或海域工程之所有人、使用人或管理人提供網粉交通工具第一項海洋保育觀察員之資格取得訓練、管理、配置資格及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":36537.168,"end":36566.204,"text":"照審查會條文通過第十七條。第十七條。執法人員、民眾、法人或團體主動參與或協助主管機關取締、舉發本法違法事件者、主管機關等於獎勵。主管機關對於前項主動參與或協助主管機關取締、舉發之人、身份應予保密。第一項獎勵是對象及主範圍及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":36567.352,"end":36587.645,"text":"照審查會條文通過第18條第18條主管機關應培養具備海洋保育及生物多樣性專業知識人才並推廣海洋保育及生物多樣性教育課程以提升民眾對於海洋生物多樣性之認識。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第19條"},{"start":36588.82,"end":36610.483,"text":"第十九條主管機關為促進海洋保育、海洋生物多樣性保護及永續利用的自行或通過國際組織、學術研究機構進行國際合作並對人民、民間團體、原住民各族參與國際交流活動給予整理或補助。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第二十條"},{"start":36611.38,"end":36632.014,"text":"第20條為執行海洋生物賦育主管機關或中央目的事業主管機關得依海洋生物賦育措施辦理原則自行或委託其他機關公法人與會或團體辦理效力賦育措施一、人工賦育設施之同放二、海洋動物之培育或演放三、海洋植物之栽植"},{"start":36633.175,"end":36656.923,"text":"此其他賦予之必要措施。前項已為之機關構自然人法人或團體自行辦理賦予措施前因依前項海洋生物賦予措施辦理原則提出賦予計劃報經主管機關同意後使得為之。第一項海洋生物賦予措施辦理原則由中央主管機關會同中央漁業主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":36658.174,"end":36671.078,"text":"照審查會條文通過委員楊瓊玲等、委員羅廷偉等分別提案第24條、第25條委員賴瑞龍等提案第21條委員蘇巧慧等提案第7條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第25條、第26條均不予採納第四章法則宣讀完畢"},{"start":36682.987,"end":36692.93,"text":"照審查會章名通過委員楊瓊玲等、委員羅廷維等分別提案第二十六條均不予採納第二十一條"},{"start":36693.7,"end":36719.51,"text":"第21條違反第十條第一項規定進入海洋庇護區之核心區者處行為人海陸域交通工具駕駛人或存償新台幣五萬元以上五十萬元下罰婚。侮辱海洋庇護區之核心區經勸導使領者不罰。但請問最近二年內經勸導又在違反者不在此限。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第22條"},{"start":36720.663,"end":36743.949,"text":"第22條違反第11條第一項規定與海洋庇護區之緩衝區內未經許可從事該項鎖定禁止行為者除新台幣3萬元以上30萬元下方還但原住民基於傳統文化、技藝、生活所需之利用的行為不在此限。宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第23條"},{"start":36745.931,"end":36767.722,"text":"厲二十三條有下列前行之一者屬新台幣一萬元上十五萬元向法官依違反第十二條規定與海洋庇護區之永續利用區內未經許可從事該條鎖定禁止行為二違反第十四條第一項公告事項宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第二十四條"},{"start":36768.683,"end":36797.199,"text":"第24條有項列前行徵意者除新台幣2萬元以送10萬元相還一、違反第15條第二項規定無正當理由規避、妨礙或拒絕海洋生物資源調查或海洋庇護區保育計畫實施二、違反第16條第二項規定無正當理由規避、妨礙或拒絕海洋保育觀察員執行觀察、監測或蒐集資料宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第25條"},{"start":36798.413,"end":36818.303,"text":"第二十五條違反第二十條第二項規定未經主管請問同意自行辦理賦予措施者處心合併五萬元以上十五萬元相關款但原住民基於傳統文化、記憶、生活所需之保育行為不在此限。宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第二十六條"},{"start":36819.147,"end":36840.146,"text":"第26條違反第十條、第一項、第十一條、第一項、第十二條規定或第十四條第一項公告是向著主管經案應令其接受二小時以上、十二小時以下之海洋保育獎習課程。前項海洋保育獎習課程應包含原住民族知識以及原住民族生物多樣性課程。"},{"start":36840.806,"end":36869.324,"text":"具部接受第一項海洋保育獎習課程或時數不足者處心臺幣三千元以上一萬元下返還,經通知令其限期接受獎習或補足時數,仍不接受或未補足時數者,等案自處罰至其接受獎習或補足時數為止。第一項海洋保育獎習課程之內容實施對象方順及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":36870.222,"end":36892.842,"text":"照審查會條文通過第二十七條。第二十七條違反本法規定今夜第二十一條是第二十三條規定處罰者其損害部分應回復原狀不能回復原狀或回復現有重大困難者應賠償其損害。為調查回復原狀所支出之必要費用由賠償義務人負擔。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":36893.789,"end":36922.555,"text":"照審查會條文通過,臺灣民眾黨黨團提案第33條不予採納。第五章。第五章負責,宣讀完畢。照審查會章名通過,第28條。第28條,行為人違反本法或依本法授權奠定之法規命令而主管機關疏於執行時,傷害人民或公益團體,得續名疏於執行之具體內容,以書面構置主管機關。"},{"start":36923.795,"end":36940.353,"text":"主管機關於書面告知宋大致日其60日內仍未依法執行者、出害人民或公益團體等以該主管機關為被告對其待遇執行之無視行為,執行向高等行政法院提起訴訟,請求判令其執行。"},{"start":36941.654,"end":36970.362,"text":"高檔行政法院為前上判決時得依職權判命被告機關支付適當律師費用、鑑定費用或其他訴訟費用與對維護海洋保育有具體貢獻之原告第一項之書面告知格式由中央主管機關會上有關機關公告之宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過委員楊瓊英等、委員羅廷偉等分別提案第三十四條"},{"start":36971.246,"end":36980.114,"text":"委員羅美玲等、委員莊瑞雄等、委員吳啟明等分別提案第29條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第35條委員賴瑞榮等提案第28條均不予採納。第29條"},{"start":36986.926,"end":37015.893,"text":"第29條,中央主管機關依第八條規定劃定海洋庇護區前,已與該海域合法取得目的事業主管機關,同意鋪設電纜管道設施結構,從事探望或採貨或其他經許可或核准之行為者,不受第十條至第十二條規定之限制,得繼續從事許可或核准行為至有效期限屆滿為止。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過。"},{"start":37017.73,"end":37039.207,"text":"第三十條第三十條本法的事情系則由中央主管機關定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第三十一條第三十一條本法的事情日期由行政院定之宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過報告院會全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提案繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議"},{"start":37045.322,"end":37068.335,"text":"六、一請宣讀經過二讀之條文海洋保育法第一章總則第一條為保護海洋生態環境保育海洋生物多樣性合理利用海洋生物資源協調並促進海洋保護區之規劃及執行推動海洋保育教育特制定本法"},{"start":37070.933,"end":37089.325,"text":"第二條本法所生主管機關在中央為海洋委員會在主峽市為主峽市政府在縣市為縣市政府前向主峽市縣市主管機關之管轄範圍由中央主管機關公告之第三條本法用詞定義如下一、海洋生物"},{"start":37089.765,"end":37118.584,"text":"指海洋動物、海洋植物及海洋其他生物二、海洋生物多樣性指所有海洋範圍內獲得生物體中之變異性包括物種內、物種之間及生態系統之多樣性三、保育指基於海洋生物多樣性及自然生態平衡這原則對於海洋生物所謂保護、富裕、管理之行為四、海洋保護區指一處海域或該海域與其"},{"start":37120.025,"end":37142.282,"text":"毗連之陸域具有生物多樣性、特殊自然景觀、文化資產或永續利用之生態資源等,依本法或其他法律所劃定進行保護之區域。五、海洋庇護區,即依本法所劃定之海洋保護區,並得以核心區、緩衝區及永續利用區進行分區管理者。"},{"start":37144.025,"end":37158.824,"text":"六、核心區只為長期保護海洋生物、生態環境、生物多樣性並提供學術研究因嚴格保護且限制人員進入及所有開發利用行為所劃定之區域。"},{"start":37159.544,"end":37180.204,"text":"七、緩衝區指臨街戶環繞與核心區,針對人為活動進行管理,限制以保護核心區,可作為研究發展所劃定之區域。八、永續利用區指於核心區緩衝區之外圍,在無礙海洋自然生態平衡之前停下,容許海洋生物生態環境"},{"start":37181.085,"end":37206.276,"text":"生物多樣性及天然資源之利用以獲取其文化教育、學術經濟等效益所劃定之區域並永續管理及發展其資源第四條為達成海洋生物多樣性之目標主管機關應採取各種海洋保育措施以保護海洋生物棲息環境協調並促進海洋保護區之整合規劃及執行"},{"start":37209.332,"end":37231.222,"text":"第五條,海洋庇護區計劃訂變更護肺制及海洋庇護區保育計劃之理定前,是其原住民族土地及海域部分中央主管機關應會同中央原住民族主管機關並依原住民族計論法及海洋計論法之規定辦理。第二章,海洋保護區"},{"start":37233.547,"end":37259.778,"text":"第六條本法鎖定海洋保護區這類型包括下列地區之海域或該海域與其匹聯之陸域一、野生動物保護區論野生動物重要棲息環境三、國家公園及國家自然公園四、國家風景特定區海域資源保護區五、水產動植物繁殖保育區六、水下文化資產保護區及自然保留區"},{"start":37260.818,"end":37277.348,"text":"8、地質公園9、中藥濕地10、海洋庇護區11、依其他法律規定或設置保護區中央主管機關的認定海洋保護區以外其他有效保護措施之區域其認定標準由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":37279.284,"end":37296.629,"text":"第七條中央主管機關應會同個中央目的事業主管機關定定整理海洋保護區管理政策方針報警協議院核定後實施,其變更時一同。傾向整理海洋保護區管理政策方針內容應包括下列事項"},{"start":37297.409,"end":37321.854,"text":"一、政策目標二、海洋保護區之分類及分級三、海洋保護區之規劃及管理四、海洋保護區之監測五、海洋保護區之檢討及存效評估六、其他與海洋保護區管理有關之事項第一項整體海洋保護區管理政策方針實施後中央主管機關應每五年至少檢討一次。一、其他法律規定"},{"start":37323.174,"end":37346.716,"text":"畫設之海洋保護區及保護區名稱、內容、畫設程序、辦理機關及管理事項從其規定納入整體海洋保護區管理政策方針之一部。整體海洋保護區管理政策方針涉及相關機關執行有疑義時,得由中央主管機關協調、協調牧場者報警行政院決定之。"},{"start":37349.161,"end":37377.666,"text":"第八條,中央主管機關的這海洋生態系統有特別保護必要,且未經其他主管機關化設為海洋保護區者,化定為海洋庇護區。中央主管機關為辦理前項業務應設審議會,由專家學者、原住民、漁民團體、保育團體等民間團體及有關機關代表組成,其中不具官方身份制代表人數不得少於委員總人數二分之一。"},{"start":37378.266,"end":37399.823,"text":"原住民及漁民團體之代表組人數不等屬於委員總人數三分之一選議會之決議以委員顧伴書記出席出席委員超過三分之二同意行之海洋庇護區域之核心區劃定之根區域之藉由使用人遭受特別犧牲之損失者應予補償。"},{"start":37401.944,"end":37414.836,"text":"低性海洋庇護學資化並基準變更廢止程序第二項是一會之設置組成運作與前項目嘗試條件基準及其相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定制。"},{"start":37417.56,"end":37430.15,"text":"第九條中央主管機關劃定海洋庇護區後應會上有關機關訂定海洋庇護區保育計畫並公開展覽30日及舉行公聽會其變更貨幣90億銅前項公開展覽與公聽會之日及集體點應登載於政府公報新聞紙網際網路會議其他適當方法廣泛周知"},{"start":37442.02,"end":37463.01,"text":"人民、法人或團體等於公開展覽期間內以書面在名、姓名或名稱及地址向中央主管機關提出意見。中央主管機關應與公告實施海洋庇護區保育計劃後將計劃登在與政府公報新聞誌、網際網路或以其他適當方法廣泛周知。"},{"start":37465.512,"end":37490.977,"text":"第十條,任何人及海陸與交通工具禁止進入海洋庇護區之核心區,但有下令其行之意者不在此限。一、國際安全或軍事目的。二、海域學防犯罪查緝與醫院巡護、污染防治、海難救助、航路標示設置管理、海洋保育、學校文化資產之保存或管理等公務目的。"},{"start":37492.717,"end":37512.362,"text":"厲、傳播連續不停迅速通過且未從事航行以外之活動。厲、經中央主管機關統一之科學研究、監測或調查等活動且向第四館申請統一之程序應解副文件、審議作業、廢止統一及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關會上有關機關定之。"},{"start":37514.795,"end":37533.498,"text":"第11條海洋庇護區域之緩衝區內非監中央主管機關許可禁止從事下令行為但符合前條定向登書第一款或第二款情形者不在此縣一、水產養殖二、采捕海洋生物三、開挖峻山航道或施作海洋工程"},{"start":37534.359,"end":37550.391,"text":"四、鋪設電纜管道設施或結構五、從事探訪或採訪從事前向第一環或第二環行為,符合中央主管機關公告至一定種類、數量、方式、範圍或期間等條件者,免申請許可。"},{"start":37552.389,"end":37572.364,"text":"第十二條,海洋庇護區之永續利用區內,非經中央主管機關許可,禁止從事下列行為,但符合第十條第一項的單書,第一款或第二款進行者不在此限。議一、開挖巨聲航道或施作海洋工程,二、鋪設電纜管道設施或結構,三、從事探望或採礦。"},{"start":37574.642,"end":37587.095,"text":"第十三條決議條申請許可是條件作業程序,非請許可及其他相關事項之辦法,由中央主管機關定之。第三章 海洋生物保育"},{"start":37588.7,"end":37607.05,"text":"第十四條,為保育海洋生物,中央主管機關應會稱其他目的事業主管機關公告下列事項。一、海洋遊行或休閒活動之限制禁止或其他應遵行事項。二、全部海上航行、活動或作業之限制禁止或其他應遵行事項。"},{"start":37608.15,"end":37627.521,"text":"三、於海洋使用采捕器具之限制,禁止或其他應遵行事項。四、其他與保育海洋生物有關之認為活動之限制,禁止或其他應遵行事項。中央主管機關辦理前項業務準用第八條第二項規定。"},{"start":37631.345,"end":37660.591,"text":"第十五條為執行海洋生物資源調查或海洋庇護區保育計畫据管機關或受託機關構法人團體得配員出示證明文件進入公司有土地、住所或海域進行調查及實施保育措施其涉及軍事機密者應會同該管軍事機關為之。此項情形公司有土地、住所或海域之所有人使用人或管理人不得規避、妨礙或拒絕。"},{"start":37662.112,"end":37679.129,"text":"進行第一項調查或實施各項保育措施,預設了維修之土地或實施各項保育措施時,主管機關應事先通知公司有土地、出所或海域之所有人使用人或管理權,通知為難送達時得以公告方式為之。"},{"start":37680.171,"end":37701.333,"text":"調查機關共法人團體或保育人員進行調查或實施各項保育措施應客尊正當法律程序以符合比例原則之方式為之對於受檢之工商軍事秘密應予保密。為進行第一項調查或實施各項保育措施至公司有土地、住所或海域之所有人"},{"start":37701.853,"end":37716.284,"text":"需用人曾受特別稀釋損失者應予補償。進行第一項調查或實施各項保育措施之方式,通知補償之條件,基準及其他相關事項之辦法,由中央主管計劃定之。"},{"start":37718.482,"end":37746.304,"text":"第十六條主管機關等指揮海洋保育觀察員在傳播海洋設施、海域工程或其中為從事觀察、監測及蒐集資料等任務必要時得請求海岸學防機關或警察機關協助。傾向情形傳播海洋設施或海域工程之所有人、使用人或管理人不得規避、妨礙或拒絕。海洋保育觀察員執行觀察、監測及蒐集資料等任務時"},{"start":37747.205,"end":37764.358,"text":"等由全部海洋生生化或海域工程之所有人、使用人或管理人提供網本交通工具。第1項海洋保育官場員之資格取得、訓練管理廢止資格及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":37766.263,"end":37791.304,"text":"第十七條,執法人員、民眾、法人或團體,主動參與或協助主管機關取締、舉發本法違法事件者、主管機關等於強力。主管機關對於前項主動參與或協助主管機關取締、舉發之人、身份應予保密。第一項教練之對象基準範圍及其他相關事項之辦法,由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":37793.567,"end":37806.973,"text":"第18條主管機關應培養具備海洋保育及生物多樣性專業知識人才並推廣海洋保育及生物多樣性教育課程以提升民眾對於海洋生物多樣性之認識"},{"start":37809.775,"end":37826.567,"text":"第十九條主管機關為促進海洋保育、海洋生物多樣性保護及永續利用的自行或透過國際組織、學術研究機構進行國際合作並對人民、民間團體、原住民各族參與國際交流活動給予獎勵或補助。"},{"start":37831.024,"end":37847.747,"text":"第20條為執行海洋生物賦育主管機關或中央目的事業主管機關等依海洋生物賦育措施辦理原則自行或委託其他機關購法人與會或團體辦理下流賦育措施依人工賦育設施之投放"},{"start":37848.348,"end":37875.782,"text":"二、海洋動物之培育或演放三、海洋植物之栽植四、其他復育之必要措施前向以外之機關構自然選法人或團體自行辦理復育措施前因依前向海洋生物復育措施辦理原則提出復育計劃報經主管機關同意後使得為之。第一項海洋生物復育措施辦理原則由中央主管機關會同中央漁業主管機關定之。"},{"start":37878.888,"end":37903.921,"text":"第四章法則第二十一條違反第十條第一項規定進入海洋庇護區之核心區者處行為人海陸域交通工具駕駛人或船長新台幣五萬元以上五十萬元相返還入海洋庇護區之核心區經勸導使離者不罰但僅為最近二年內經勸導又再違反者不再此限"},{"start":37906.195,"end":37925.18,"text":"第22條違反第11條第一項未定與海洋庇護區之緩衝區內,未經許可從事該項鎖定禁止行為者,除新台幣3萬元以上30萬元相還款,但原住民基於傳統文化、記憶、生活所需之利用的行為不在此限。"},{"start":37928.547,"end":37945.703,"text":"第23條有下列進行追責除新台幣1萬元營收15萬元相反昏以違反第12條規定與海洋庇護區之永續利用區內未經許可從事該條鎖定禁止行為而違反第14條第一項公告事項"},{"start":37947.907,"end":37971.452,"text":"第24條有項鍊前行追責,處刑乃逼2萬元引受10萬元相反昏。一、違反第15條第二項規定,無正當理由規避、妨礙或拒絕海洋生物資源調查或海洋庇護區保育計劃實施。二、違反第16條第二項規定,無正當理由規避、妨礙或拒絕海洋保育觀察員執行觀察監測或蒐集資料。"},{"start":37975.666,"end":37991.443,"text":"第二十五條違反第二十條第二項規定未經主管機關同意自行辦理賦予措施者處刑代幣五萬元以上十五萬元相還還但原住民基於傳統文化、記憶、生活所需之保育行為不在此限"},{"start":37993.598,"end":38016.815,"text":"第26條違反第十條、第一項、第十一條、第一項、第十二條規定或第十四條第一項公告是向著主管機關應令其接受二小時以上、十二小時以下之海洋保育獎習課程。前項海洋保育獎習課程應包含原住民族知識以及原住民族生物多樣性課程。"},{"start":38017.615,"end":38046.526,"text":"具部接受第一項海洋保育獎析課程或時數不足者處金額比三千元以上以萬元向返還。經通知令其限期接受獎析或補足時數,而不接受或未補足時數者,得按次處罰致其接受獎析或補足時數為止。第一項海洋保育獎析課程之內容,實施之對象方式及其他相關事項指標本由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":38048.854,"end":38068.392,"text":"第二十七條違反本法規定經依第二十一條至第二十三條規定處罰者其損害部分應回復原狀不能回復原狀或回復現有重大困難者應賠償其損害。為六條回復原狀所支出之必要費用由賠償義務人負擔。"},{"start":38071.857,"end":38088.453,"text":"第五章 負責第28條請問讓違反本法或依本法授權訂定之法規命令而主管機關疏於執行時出害人民或公益團體的序名疏於執行之具體內容以書面告示主管機關"},{"start":38089.514,"end":38106.139,"text":"主管機關於書面告知送囊之日及60日內,人為依法執行者、受害人民或公益團體等以該主管機關為被告對其待遇執行諸誌行為,直接向高等行政法院提起訴訟,請求判令其執行。"},{"start":38107.399,"end":38124.7,"text":"高等行政法原為前項判決時得依指權判命被告機關支付適當律師費用、盡力費用或其他訴訟費用與對維護海洋保育有具體貢獻之原告。第一項之書面告示格式由中央主管機關會上有關機關公告之。"},{"start":38128.991,"end":38153.457,"text":"第29條,中央主管機關亦第八條規定劃定海洋庇護區前,已於該海域合法取得目的事業主管機關同意鋪設電纜、管道、設施結構、從事探礦或採礦或其他經許可或核准之行為者不受第十條之第十二條規定之限制,而繼續從事許可或核准行為至有效期限屆滿為止。"},{"start":38156.243,"end":38181.002,"text":"第30條本法實行細則由中央主管機關定之。第31條本法實行日期由行政院定之。宣讀完畢。法院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢。請問院會有無文字修正?沒有文字修正。決議海洋保育法制定通過。"},{"start":38186.124,"end":38191.407,"text":"繼續處理審查會所作之附帶決議。請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容。通過附帶決議八項。一、建請海洋委員會參照國際趨勢及國內現況,積極統合協調相關機關,促進海洋保護趨之化設。"},{"start":38205.424,"end":38224.404,"text":"或其他有效保育措施區域之認定並定期檢討保育成效以達保護海洋生態環境保育海洋生物多樣性之永續目標逐步與國際目標接軌。二、中央主委機關因擬定海洋庇護區域"},{"start":38227.557,"end":38244.633,"text":"庇護區保育計畫時應載明下列四項一、計畫範圍目標及規劃圖二、海洋生態資源系統與環境之基礎調查及分析三、分區規劃及維護管理之"},{"start":38245.894,"end":38272.309,"text":"定或措施、四、財務與人力實施計畫、五、其他相關事項、三、中央主管機關應會商有關機關建置海洋保護資料庫與專屬網頁、公開前述資料庫與專屬網頁並定期更新、避利相關資料之完備建置與追蹤、四、請海洋委員會會同原住民"},{"start":38273.72,"end":38298.157,"text":"原住民族委員會於本法通過後辦理事項如下。一、六個月內於原住民族地區各縣市辦理至少三場次相關法案說明會並邀請族人參與積極溝通說明。二、後續於原住民地區之相關法案說明會中依族群分部區增加適宜之族語宣導人員。五、"},{"start":38300.41,"end":38323.601,"text":"中央主管機關應於本法施行後五年內完成我國海域生態調查並公開之,其後每五年進行調查之更新資料。六、本法公布施行後政府應致力於一百十九年以前達成保護至少百分之三十海洋質目標海洋委員會應將生態監測資訊對外公開"},{"start":38328.108,"end":38348.12,"text":"並擬定海洋庇護區劃涉前應召開公聽會並邀請公民團體、利害關係人及在地居民表示意見後再行擬定並送審議會審議。海洋委員會統整所屬海岸巡防機關執行量能"},{"start":38354.445,"end":38375.497,"text":"則請海洋保育署規劃海洋保育相關課程,協助相關資保人員接受海洋保育專業課程。七、為保育海洋生物資源、管理海域休閒活動及休閒財補所獲知海洋生物資源之利用,應針對目前無法令規範之"},{"start":38377.186,"end":38401.026,"text":"亂象依本法規定之全責訂定管理規範八海洋委員會依本法第八條組成審議會時應以法律規定之組成比例之為最低基準,再盡可能擴大民間之參與。宣讀完畢。請問院會有無異議?沒有異議決定。照案通過。報告院會"},{"start":38402.625,"end":38415.77,"text":"海洋保育法完成立法程序後由委員登記發言。每位委員發言時間兩分鐘並截止發言登記。現在請徐宇貞委員發言。"},{"start":38441.144,"end":38455.875,"text":"今日海洋保育法完成三讀海洋保育常常談到漁業枯竭的問題但海洋漁業的捕撈並不是漁業枯竭的唯一原因若政府過度的管理勢必讓直接的海洋產業受到衝擊"},{"start":38456.943,"end":38484.765,"text":"因此在海洋保育法立法的討論過程中本席提案要求海委會、海保署應到全國召開六場公聽會充分的聽取漁民原住民的意見謹慎面對海洋保育法的立法工作。厲經三個多月的討論在原有的基礎上宇珍幫漁民爭取到一、海洋委員會訂定海洋保護區管理政策方針時應會同各中央主管機關以保障漁民的權益"},{"start":38485.786,"end":38502.777,"text":"另外,劃定海洋庇護區應傾聽漁民的意見尤其是審議會的成員必須是漁民跟原住民的委員不得少於總數的三分之一而審議會的決議也應得到出席委員超過三分之二同意使得執行"},{"start":38503.377,"end":38523.326,"text":"海洋庇護區劃定之後若使部分漁民無法至該區作業政府應提出退套的輔導補償措施致使使用人遭受到特別犧牲的損失時也應由政府提供補償措施在檢討處罰機制的時候修正罰金增定漁民誤入海洋庇護區核心區者經勸討駛離核心區者不罰"},{"start":38527.027,"end":38546.648,"text":"強化規範休閒採捕海洋生物。海保署舉行公聽會時,漁民要求要取締違法的波特船。黃相文副主委特別強調,海保法通過後,政府要有法源可以取締違法波特船的行為,也要求政府應加強取締休閒採捕海洋生物有販售行為。"},{"start":38547.332,"end":38576.713,"text":"海洋保育法完成立法之後對漁民及漁業的衝擊最大政府在制定法律的時候對他們有所限制也一定要設法輔導漁民照顧漁民不要忽視漁民的權益謝謝好 謝謝徐委員下一位請麥玉珍委員麥玉珍委員麥玉珍委員不在我們請莊瑞雄委員發言"},{"start":38591.719,"end":38616.961,"text":"謝謝主席還有在場我們所有委員還有美女朋友沒有水源的滋養哪來萬物眾生沒有蔚藍海洋整建綠域山川台灣擁有豐沛的海洋文化跟資源以本席屏東來看從新圓東港一路到我們車城這個就是整個是台灣海峽"},{"start":38617.981,"end":38644.898,"text":"到了我們恆春半島是巴士海峽到了我們滿洲又是太平洋所以屏東一共就有三個海環繞我們的整個琉球鄉那更是四面環海海洋帶給台灣經濟發展的一個動能對我國的漁業、觀光業、運動產業都非常大的強大的支撐所以我們更應該同等的注重海洋資源的保育的工作"},{"start":38646.192,"end":38665.536,"text":"本席上一屆在內政委員會擔任召委的時候首先就完成海洋三法之一的海洋產業發展條例的立法另外也完成了海務法當初本席是在這個地方呼籲我們海洋委員會要持續的去推動海洋保育法還有海域管理法的立法工程"},{"start":38665.856,"end":38690.476,"text":"密切的跟各界來做溝通、尋求共識以及兼顧環保跟經濟發展的一個平衡終於啊終於啊我們經過多年的一個努力海洋保育法在今天正式刪讀了這是一個重要的歷史時刻每一個人、每一個地方跟海洋都密不可分海洋孕育了萬事萬物希望這步法通過以後呢我們對海洋的保育可以更加完善"},{"start":38691.537,"end":38704.962,"text":"以後我們子孫寫信告訴我今天海是什麼顏色的時候一定還是最美、最動人的蔚藍海岸捲起秀丸一起加油即刻行動謝謝大家,大家共同的努力好,謝謝莊委員接下來請羅廷維委員發言"},{"start":38723.424,"end":38739.837,"text":"很高興海洋保育法今天終於刪讀了這是歷史性的一刻這對台灣來說極其的重要台灣四面環海我們不止有非常好的戰略位置伴隨著豐富的海洋生態資源我們所需要的水"},{"start":38740.598,"end":38753.719,"text":"天氣、氣候甚至是海岸線食物與氧氣都非常仰賴整個海洋系統的調節然而海洋的環境面對著日益嚴重的威脅跟影響"},{"start":38754.898,"end":38779.019,"text":"日前我們看到國際公認的要劃設海洋保護區是復育漁園最簡單、最實際、最有效的一個方式也是未來恢復漁業支援保護海洋多元性、多樣性的不惡法門但台灣原有的現行法規對於海洋生物的保護以及海洋生態的長期養護目標規範"},{"start":38781.781,"end":38796.431,"text":"可見不太足夠且海洋保護區散落在各個機關因此我們更需要上位的法規來滿足海洋基本法我們所賦予的使命本次三讀特別感謝綠色和平基金會"},{"start":38797.432,"end":38813.009,"text":"海洋公民基金會以及臺灣媽祖與保育聯盟臺灣滿眼新竹生態協會環境正義基金會以及許多臺中許多我們環保的夥伴老師我們大家一起共同的努力"},{"start":38813.59,"end":38840.568,"text":"最後我要特別感謝我們一起不分草野政黨共同來支持還有海洋委員會的主委管碧玲主委才能完成此次的修法期許台灣在保護海洋生態的環境促進海洋保護區能夠管理成效保育以及養育我們更多的海洋生物的多樣性也創造永續繁榮的海洋環境"},{"start":38843.49,"end":38872.671,"text":"禮。"},{"start":38883.899,"end":38889.036,"text":"議員會議員會議"},{"start":40955.314,"end":40982.93,"text":"報院會現在繼續開會進行討論事項第四案中小企業發展條例部分條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告本院經濟委員會於113年5月2日舉行全體委員會議審查本案由召集委員楊崇英擔任主席會眾邀請經濟部部長翁美花等就行政院級委員提案提出說明並答覆委員質詢"},{"start":40983.931,"end":41013.213,"text":"令邀請國家發展委員會等相關機關派員列席備詢與會委員於聽取說明及詢答後對法案進行逐條審查及整理討論並將全案併案審查完略拟據審查報告提報約會討論約會討論前須交由黨團先生約會討論本案時由經濟委員會召集委員楊崇英補充說明宣讀完畢請召集委員、楊委員、崇英補充說明沒有補充說明"},{"start":41013.612,"end":41026.913,"text":"本案經審查會決議須交由黨團協商令委員鄭天才等、委員劉許廷等、委員徐巧欣等、委員陳廷飛等、委員顏寬恒等分別"},{"start":41028.171,"end":41045.856,"text":"分別之提案分經第一會期、第十三次、第十四次、第十六次、第二十次會議決定近乎二讀與相關提案併案協商委員何新淳等、委員賴瑞榮等、委員謝一鳳等分別提案"},{"start":41047.076,"end":41059.8,"text":"經第一會期第十四次會議決定,自委員會抽出近乎二讀與相關提案併案協商。報告委員會本案現已完成協商,請宣讀協商結論。"},{"start":41063.666,"end":41073.336,"text":"立法院黨團協商結論協商主題中小企業發展條例部分條文修正草案開會時間113年7月5日下午20時35分開會地點一廠三樓會議室協商結論一、第36條之二條文照協商條文通過如後付"},{"start":41083.146,"end":41110.866,"text":"二、第36條之四條不予新增。三、其餘條文均照審查結果通過。四、通過附帶決議向盧厚富主持人韓國瑜將啟程。協商代表傅坤吉、洪孟凱、林思敏、楊瓊英、柯建民、吳思瑤、莊瑞雄、黃珊珊、吳春成、黃國昌宣讀完畢。請問院會對以上協商結論有無異議。無異議本案主條討論時"},{"start":41112.679,"end":41141.064,"text":"竟依協商結論處理中小企業發展條例請宣讀第一條第一條為協助中小企業改善經營環境推動相互合作並輔導其自力成長及升級轉型以促進中小企業之健全發展特制定本條例本條例為規定者適用其他有關法律之規定宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過"},{"start":41143.356,"end":41167.901,"text":"第二條第二條本條例所稱中小企業只依法辦理公司有限合夥商業登記和與中小企業認定標準之事業。前項認定標準由中央主管機關按資本額經常僱用員工數等定之。其他機關為辦理中小企業輔導業務的就業務需要另訂標準放寬輔導對象。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過"},{"start":41171.598,"end":41196.4,"text":"台灣民眾黨黨團提案第七條之一不予增訂第三十五條第三十五條為促進中小企業研發創新中小企業同志於研究發展這支出得選擇以下立方式低減因納盈利事業所得稅額並以不超過該公司或有限合夥當年度因納盈利事業所得稅額百分之三十為限"},{"start":41196.98,"end":41218.977,"text":"一清則定不得變更。一、於支出金額15%限度內抵減當年度因納盈利事業所的稅額。二、於支出金額10%限度內抵減自當年度起三年內各年度因納盈利事業所的稅額。供研究、發展、實驗或品質檢驗用之以期設備其耐用年數在二年以上者"},{"start":41219.637,"end":41246.931,"text":"準案所的稅法固定資產耐用年數表所在年數縮短二分之一計算折舊縮短後餘數不完一年者不予計算。第一項投資遞減之適用範圍申請期限申請程序合定機關施行期限遞減率及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同財政部定之。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過。第36條之二"},{"start":41249.264,"end":41270.619,"text":"第36條之二,中小企業增僱一定人數至24歲以上或65歲以上本國籍基層員工,且提高該企業整體薪資及副總額時,得就其增僱該員工所支付薪資金額之200%限度內,自其增僱當年度盈利事業所得中減除。"},{"start":41271.56,"end":41289.162,"text":"中小企業調高本國籍基層員工之平均薪資及付水準時得救費應法定最低工資調整而增加支付本國籍現值基層員工薪資金額至175%限度內自其增加薪資當年度盈利事業所得的中減處"},{"start":41290.183,"end":41318.388,"text":"但因徵雇員工所致、增加之薪之、薪資及付金額已適用前項規定者不得重複記錄。前項徵雇員工之對象及人數、企業全體薪資及付總額、基層員工範圍及平均薪資及付水準計算方式、合併機關、申請應具備之要件、申請期限、申請程序及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同才任務定之。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":41319.366,"end":41348.602,"text":"照協商條文通過第三十六條之三第三十六條之三中小企業依依其他法律享有租稅優惠者不得就同一事項重複享有本條例所定之租稅優惠就同一事項同時符合本條例所定不同租稅優惠規定者應則依使用不得重複享用中小企業最近三年因違反環境保護勞工或食品安全衛生相關法律且情節重大"},{"start":41349.422,"end":41373.791,"text":"經各中央目的事業主管機關認定者不得申請本條例之租稅優惠。宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第三十六條之事不予增訂第三十九條第三十九條中央主管機關為審議中小企業發展政策得邀集相關機關及學者、專家組成中小企業政策審議會。宣讀完畢"},{"start":41376.348,"end":41393.121,"text":"照審查會條文通過第40條。第40條本條例自公佈日施行本條例中華民國103年6月4日修正公佈之第35條及第36條之施行期間自103年5月20日起至113年5月19日至。第35條之一施行期間自103年5月20日起至122年12月31日至。"},{"start":41403.448,"end":41416.793,"text":"本條例中華民國105年1月6日修正公佈是第36條之二第二項至第五項施行期間自105年1月1日起至113年5月19日至本條例中華民國113年7月12日修正之第35條及第36條之二施行期間自113年1月1日起至122年12月31日至宣讀完畢"},{"start":41430.598,"end":41435.482,"text":"照審查會條文通過報應會全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有依、沒有依請宣讀經過二讀之條文"},{"start":41446.826,"end":41462.649,"text":"第1條為協助中小企業改善經營環境推動相互合作並輔導其自力成長及升級轉型以促進中小企業之健全發展特制定本條例本條例為規定者使用其他有關法律之規定"},{"start":41463.67,"end":41483.136,"text":"第二條本條例所稱中小企業只依法辦理公司有限合夥或商業單季和與中小企業認定標準之事業。誰項認定標準由中央主管機關按資本額、經常僱用員工數等定之。其他機關為辦理中小企業輔導業務、難求業務需要認定標準放寬輔導對象。"},{"start":41489.315,"end":41509.335,"text":"第35條為促進中小企業研發創新、中小企業投資與研究發展之支出,得選擇以下例方式提檢因納盈利事業所得稅額,並以不超過該公司或有限合夥當年度因納盈利事業所得稅額百分之三十為限,依今則定不得變更。"},{"start":41511.826,"end":41525.738,"text":"於支出金額15%限度內,抵減當年度因納盈利事業所得稅額。二、於支出金額10%限度內,抵減自當年度期三年內,各年度因納盈利事業所得稅額。"},{"start":41526.636,"end":41543.042,"text":"公研究方展實驗或品質檢驗用置儀器設備其耐用年數在二年以上者准按所得稅法固定增產耐用年數表所在年數縮短二分之一計算者就縮短後餘數不滿一年者不予計算。"},{"start":41544.583,"end":41556.525,"text":"第一項投資遞減就是用範圍、申請期限、申請程序、合併機關施行期限、遞減率及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同財政部定制。"},{"start":41559.13,"end":41580.186,"text":"第36條之二,中小企業增雇一定人數之二十四歲以上或六十五歲以上本國籍基層員工,且抵高該企業整體薪資給付總額時,得就其增雇該員工所支付薪資金額之百分之二百先度內,自其增雇當年度,營利事業所得而終減除。"},{"start":41581.847,"end":41608.617,"text":"中小企業調高本國及基層員工之平均薪資及付水準時得就非因法定最低工資調整而增加支付本國及現值基層員工薪資金額之175%限度內自其增加薪資當年度盈利事業所得而終減除但因增務員工所致增加之薪資及付金額已是用前項規定者不得重複計入"},{"start":41610.089,"end":41630.334,"text":"前三項增顧員工之對象及人數、企業整體薪資及負總額、基層員工範圍及平均薪資及負水準計算方式合定機關申請應具備之要件、申請期限申請程序及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同財政部定之。"},{"start":41632.782,"end":41659.105,"text":"第三十六條之三中小企業已依其他法律享有租稅優惠者不得就統一事項重複享有本條例所定之租稅優惠就統一事項同時符合本條例所定不同租稅優惠規定者應則依適用不得重複享有中小企業最近三年因違反環境保護勞工或食品安全衛生相關法律且緊急重大"},{"start":41659.965,"end":41678.415,"text":"經各中央目的事業主管機關認定者不得申請本條例之租稅優惠。第39條中央主管機關為審議中小企業發展政策等邀集相關機關及學者專家組成中小企業政策審議會。"},{"start":41681.465,"end":41691.479,"text":"第四十條本條例自公佈日施行本條例中華民國103年6月4日修正公佈至第35條及第36條之外施行期間自103年5月20日起至113年5月19日至第35條之一施行期間"},{"start":41699.309,"end":41715.66,"text":"自103年5月20日起至122年12月31日至本條例中華民國105年1月6日修正公佈之第36條之二第二項至第五項施行期間自105年1月1日起至123年5月19日至。"},{"start":41719.602,"end":41726.591,"text":"本條例中華民國113年7月12日修正之第35條及第36條之二施行期間自113年1月1日起至122年12月31日至宣讀完畢"},{"start":41740.66,"end":41763.522,"text":"法院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正無文字修正決議中小企業發展條例第一條第二條第三十五條第三十六條之二第三十六條之三第三十九條及第四十條條文修正通過"},{"start":41769.145,"end":41795.092,"text":"繼續處理黨團協商通過之附帶決議請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容通過附帶決議一項有關中小企業研究發展人員之人才培訓支出列入中小企業發展條例第35條研究發展支出適用投資抵減範圍與未來訂定執法規投資抵減辦法時予以明定宣讀完畢"},{"start":41798.032,"end":41820.967,"text":"報告委員會一協商結論照案通過報告委員會本案完成立法程序後由委員登記發言每位委員發言時間兩分鐘並截止發言登記首先我們請林國成委員發言"},{"start":41846.087,"end":41852.937,"text":"台灣中小企業有八成都賺錢但卻很少主動"},{"start":41855.498,"end":41883.225,"text":"為勞、為員工來加薪。國內的薪資過低物質高漲薪水不漲勞工存錢存不到錢連養家活口都有困難勞工是企業營業的關鍵企業有賺錢將利潤分享給員工天經地義因此台灣民眾黨提出中小企業發展條例修法"},{"start":41884.145,"end":41905.532,"text":"未來企業替員工加薪或者徵聘24歲以下、65歲以上政府就給最高的200%的免稅額度也就是說老闆幫員工加薪100就可以抵稅200所以用這種方式鼓勵"},{"start":41906.852,"end":41926.072,"text":"台灣的企業幫員工來加薪所以今天三讀通過特別要感謝行政院以及立法院三黨的委員共同的支持讓我們本屆第一個會期就可以順利三讀通過這個條文"},{"start":41928.554,"end":41950.419,"text":"爭取勞工的權利是本人以及台灣民眾黨的宗旨也是我個人的理念所以我們還會繼續努力在這裡特別謝謝我們本會所有的委員支持台灣中小企業所有的條例謝謝大家感謝大家謝謝"},{"start":41954.631,"end":41957.522,"text":"謝謝林委員下一位請張志倫委員發言"},{"start":41979.394,"end":42002.771,"text":"好謝謝主席各位辛苦的議事人員在場各位委員以及全國各位敬愛的國人朋友大家晚安大家好今天非常榮幸來跟大家報告中小企業發展條例三讀通過請問各位我們敬愛的國人好朋友去年大家的流行語是最近幾年你過得好嗎"},{"start":42003.993,"end":42020.164,"text":"最近幾年你過得好嗎?大家知道最近幾年的經濟環境相當不景氣可是我們的台灣的政府我們的稅收卻是屢屢增高在111年的時候政府超收5237萬112年的時候稅收超收3600萬可是只有在111年的時候普發人民現金6000塊"},{"start":42029.87,"end":42047.706,"text":"高額的稅收造成物價起漲一個貴的排骨便當要120塊貴的雞腿便當要150塊所以提出加薪減稅讓全民來減稅刻不容緩所以我今天很榮幸在這邊跟所有的國人報告"},{"start":42048.467,"end":42067.932,"text":"未來中小企業發展條例通過以後在36條之二24歲以下及65歲以上只要中小企業徵聘可以提高扣除薪資費用的部分提高到200%以及只要有中小型企業幫員工加薪就是俗稱的加薪減稅"},{"start":42069.272,"end":42069.553,"text":"議員王育敏等18人擬具"},{"start":42087.079,"end":42099.547,"text":"本席以及國民黨黨團未來會繼續努力修法來保障員工的權益也會繼續也要最後跟所有勞工講說一聲辛苦了謝謝"},{"start":42129.025,"end":42150.894,"text":"主席、所有議事同仁、所有國人大家好。我國中小企業家數約有163萬家,占全體企業家數的98.9%。就業人數超過913萬,占總就業人口的80%以上,是我國經濟發展當中非常重要的一股力量。因此今天非常的高興可以看到我們中小企業發展條例部分條文修正三讀通過。"},{"start":42151.974,"end":42168.688,"text":"那麼在原有的中小企業條例當中存在許多的問題包括加薪減儲率過低對企業的誘因不足那麼第二社會新鮮人加薪門檻是在24歲不符合現今幾乎人都有唸大學的一個情況第三沒有鼓勵中高齡就業的一個機制第四個"},{"start":42169.509,"end":42169.569,"text":"議員王育敏"},{"start":42191.181,"end":42218.863,"text":"新增45歲以上中高齡就業的一個加薪減儲率那麼鼓勵中小企業會中高齡就業的加薪來緩解我們55歲以上勞動率參與率不高的一個問題那麼第三個部分就是要放寬原有我們24歲以下才能夠適用加薪減儲率的一個規定擴大到30歲以下能夠讓讀完研究所的社會新鮮人能夠一起來適用那麼第四個部分就是說我們"},{"start":42219.623,"end":42236.616,"text":"主張一般員工的加薪減儲率可以提高到200%。經過多次協商的結果,我的四項主張雖然並沒有完全達到,但整體的方向是往前進的,包括了刪除加薪減儲率的景氣啟動的門檻。第二個,對於24歲以下和65歲以上的勞動可以提高到200%,"},{"start":42244.042,"end":42266.755,"text":"第三個部分是一般員工的加薪減除率從原本的130提高到175希望所有的國人都可以感受到我們立法院在完善中小企業經濟生態系的誠意謝謝政委員報告委員會各黨團推派委員均已發言完畢討論事項第五案"},{"start":42268.749,"end":42292.961,"text":"海關進口稅者部分稅者修正草案請宣讀審查報告。委員財政委員會於113年5月16日舉行全體委員會議審查本案。會議由郭肇集委員郭文擔任主席、財政部莊部長翠雲等分別應邀列席說明被詢。由會員於聽取說明及詢談後,隨即進行討論及寫生。"},{"start":42294.702,"end":42319.703,"text":"今、黨、省、共、市將全案審查完略。願經決議、連續審查報告提報院會本案與院會進行二讀前不須交由黨團協商。院會討論本案時由郭召集委員國文補充說明。宣讀完畢。請召集委員郭委員國文補充說明。無補充說明本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商。請問院會有異議。"},{"start":42323.151,"end":42346.79,"text":"沒有依本案盡應審查會意見處理依例逐章進行二讀海關進口稅者請宣讀第一章徵注一及二第一章活動物修正徵注一及徵注二宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過第一章"},{"start":42347.674,"end":42353.676,"text":"第一章,修正第0105-1110、第0105-1210、第0105-1310後、第0105-1410後、第0105-1510後、第0105-9410後及第0105-9910後等其向之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH使用之稅率。宣布完畢。照審查會意見通過。第三章"},{"start":42373.342,"end":42379.344,"text":"第三章 魚類、甲殼類、軟體類及其他水產無脊椎動物修正第0301-9220號、第0301-9910號、第0302-3300號、第0302-3500號、第0302-8910號、第0302-8920號、第0302-8930號、第0302-8951號、第0302-8952號、第0302-8960號"},{"start":42398.61,"end":42402.733,"text":"第0302-8970後第0302-8980後第0302-8982後第0302-8989後第0302-9110後第0302-9260後第0302-9910後第0302-9920後第0302-9990後第0303-4100後第0303-4200後第0303-4300後第0303-4400後第0303-5990後第0303-8100後"},{"start":42427.268,"end":42431.471,"text":"第0303、89、89後第0303、91、20後第0303、99、10後第0303、99、90後第0304、49、10後第0304、49、20後第0304、49、30後第0304、49、90後第0304、59、10後第0304、59、20後第0304、59、90後第0304、89、00後第0304、89、10後第0304、89、50後"},{"start":42455.728,"end":42458.049,"text":"第0304-8960號、第0304-8990號、第0304-9690號、第0304-9990號、第0305-2010號、第0305-2020號、第0305-5960號、第0305-7200號、第0305-7900號、第0306-1112號、第0306-1429號、第0306-4310號、第0306-3510號"},{"start":42479.421,"end":42480.762,"text":"第03063610號第03063910號第03071110號第03073110號第0307320號第03077110號第03078110號第03079110號第03081110號第03081921號第03081922號"},{"start":42501.098,"end":42508.06,"text":"第0308-1930後、第0308-1940後、第0308-2111後、第0308-3011後、第0308-9001後及第0309-1000後等69項之第二欄稅率,修正馬上為MH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第四章。"},{"start":42523.496,"end":42540.374,"text":"第四章乳製品清淡天然蜜為利益民使用動物產品修正第0407-1110後及第0407-1910後等論項之第二欄稅率修正馬上5MH使用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第五章。"},{"start":42541.124,"end":42544.285,"text":"第五章 衛電民動物產品出證第0501010號、第05010020號、第05021010號、第05021020號、第05029011號、第05029019號、第05029020號、第05051000號、第0505910號、第0505920號、第05059030號、第05069019號、"},{"start":42564.952,"end":42567.394,"text":"第0506、9020號第0506、9030號第0507、9011號第0507、9012號第0507、9013號第0507、9014號第0507、9015號第0507、906號第0507、9017號第0507、9023號第0507、9024號第0507、9025號第0507、9026號第0507、9027號"},{"start":42595.272,"end":42596.233,"text":"9、1號、第05079092號、第05079093號、第05080020號、第05080030號、第05080040號、第05111000號、第05119110號、第05119191號、第05119910號、第05119910號、第05119940號、第05119950號。"},{"start":42618.363,"end":42620.966,"text":"第05119991號、第05119992號及第05119999號等自選項之第二欄稅率、求證碼項MH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":42633.683,"end":42644.531,"text":"第六章 活塑及其他植物、球晶、根結類飾品、切花及裝飾用業出證第06-01-1000號、第06-02-10號、第06-02-30號、第06-02-1010號、第06-02-1090號、第06-02-9010號、第06-02-9091號、第06-04-2011號及第06-04-9011號等九項之第二欄稅率,出證馬上MH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":42662.611,"end":42678.173,"text":"照審查會意見通過。第七章徵注一及二。第七章使用蔬菜及部分根菜與塊青菜類修正徵注一及徵注二。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第七章"},{"start":42678.888,"end":42682.01,"text":"第七宗修正第0701、1000後、第0712、9021後、第0713、1010後、第0713、1090後、第0713、3310後、第0713、3410後、第0713、3510後、第0713、3920後、第0713、5010後、"},{"start":42695.74,"end":42704.285,"text":"第07-13-6010後、第07-13-9010後、第07-14-3010後、第07-14-4010後、第07-14-4020後、第07-14-9011後、第07-14-9012後、第07-14-9021後、第07-14-9022後、第07-14-9091後及第07-14-9092後等二十三支第二欄稅率修正馬上而MH使用這稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第八章"},{"start":42725.745,"end":42741.284,"text":"第八章使用果實及堅果、柑橘屬果實或甜瓜之外皮修正第08011100號之第二欄稅率修正馬上MH使用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第九章"},{"start":42741.857,"end":42747.26,"text":"第九章 咖啡、茶、馬帶、茶及香料出證第0901-1100號、第0901-1200號、第0901-2100號、第0902-200號、第0901-9010號、第0901-9020號、第0904-2110號、第0906-1100號、第0906-1900號、第0906-2000號、第0907-1000號"},{"start":42766.812,"end":42772.034,"text":"第0907、2000號、第0908、1100號、第0908、1200號、第0908、2100號、第0908、2200號、第0908、3100號、第0908、3200號、第0910、2000號、第0910、3000號及第0910、9910號等21項之第二的稅率,修正馬上MH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第十章。"},{"start":42794.591,"end":42800.954,"text":"第十三股內出證第1002、1002、1000號、1002、9000號、1003、1000號、1003、9000號、1005、1000號、1005、9000號、1007、1000號及1007、9000號等8項之第二欄稅率出證碼數MHC5之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第十一章"},{"start":42823.888,"end":42846.867,"text":"第十一章製粉工業成品麥芽澱粉橘糖麵筋修正第1106、3010後、第110方、1410後、第110方、1420後及第1109、0010後等1109、0010後等四項之第二欄稅率修正碼上MH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第十二章。"},{"start":42847.677,"end":42856.216,"text":"第12章 油料種子及含油脂果實雜項鼓勵種子及果實供應用或要用植物、除草及飼料"},{"start":42858.334,"end":42869.279,"text":"修正第1、2、0、1一零零零後,第1、2、0、1九零零零後,第1、2、0、3零零零零後,第1、2、0、4零零零後,第2、0、5一零零後,第2、0、5九零零零後,第2、0、6零零零零後,第2、0、7一零零零後,第2、0、7二一零零後,第2、0、7二九零零後,第2、0、7三零零零後,"},{"start":42878.243,"end":42880.024,"text":"第1、2、0、7、50、00號第1、2、0、7、6、00號第1、2、0、7、70、10號第1、2、0、7、91、00號第1、2、0、7、99、10號第1、2、0、7、99、20號第1、2、0、7、99、30號第1、2、0、7、99、90號第1、2、0、9、10、00號第1、2、0、9、21、00號第1、2、0、9、22、00號第1、2、0、9、23、00號第1、2、0、9、24、00號第1、2、0、9、25、00號第1、2、09"},{"start":42904.935,"end":42930.288,"text":"二九零零後第二零九三零零後第二零九九一零後第一二零九九九零零後第二一二零四零後第二一二零五零後第二一一三零零後第二一一四零零後第二一五零零後第二一九零一後第二一九零一二後第二一九零一三後第二一九零一零後第二一九零一七後"},{"start":42930.868,"end":42933.149,"text":"第1、2、1、9018號第1、2、1、9019號第1、2、1、9023號第1、2、1、9024號第1、2、1、9025號第1、2、1、9029號第1、2、1、9030號第1、2、1、9031號第1、2、1、9034號第1、2、1、9035號第1、2、1、9036號第1、2、1、9037號第1、2、1、9038號第1、2、1、9039號第1、2、1、9040號"},{"start":42960.16,"end":42977.773,"text":"第二一一九零四一號第二一一九零四二號第二一一九零四三號第二一一九零四十號第二一一九零四五號第二一一九零四六號第二一一九零四七號第二一一九零四八號第二一一九零四九號第二一一九零五零號"},{"start":42978.433,"end":42979.053,"text":"第1219051號第1219052號第1219053號第1219050號第1219057號第1219059號第1219060號第1219062號第1219063號第1219060號第1219065號第1219067號第1219068號"},{"start":43004.011,"end":43031.713,"text":"第一二一一九零六九後、第一二一一九零七零後、第一二一一九零七一後、第一二一一九零七二後、第一二一一九零七三後、第一二一一九零七四後、第一二一一九零九一後、第一二一一三零零零後、第一二一四一零零零後及第一二一四九零零零後等八十七項之第二欄稅率、修正碼上五MH稅用日稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第十三章"},{"start":43032.421,"end":43043.045,"text":"第十三章重期職務將述之其他職務之役及萃取物。求證第13019010號、第13019021號、第1301902人號、第13019090號、第13021100號及第13023990號等6項之第二欄稅率。求證馬上MH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第十四章增注一。"},{"start":43059.554,"end":43069.156,"text":"第十四章編解用植物性材料為列明植物產品修正增注一宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過第十四章"},{"start":43069.813,"end":43094.882,"text":"第十四章 修正第一四零一一零零零後、第一四零一二零零零後、第一四零一九零零零後、第一四零四二零零零後、第一四零四九零三零後、第一四零四九零四零後、第一四零四九零五零後、第一四零四九零五九後及第一四零四九零八零後等九項至第二欄稅率。修正馬上MH使用日稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第十五章"},{"start":43096.755,"end":43105.242,"text":"第15章動植物或微生物、油脂及其分解物、調製使用油脂、動植物。求證第1502、100後、1502、1020後、1502、9000後、1504、1000後"},{"start":43112.208,"end":43128.714,"text":"第一五零四二零零零號第一五零四三零零號第一五零五零零九零號第一五零九二零零號第一五零九三零零號第一五零九四零零號第一五零九九零零號第一五一一一零零號第一五一一九零零號"},{"start":43129.494,"end":43129.815,"text":"第1、5、1、2、2、1、0、0號第1、5、1、2、2、9、0、0號第1、5、1、3、1、2、0、0號第1、5、1、3、1、9、0、0號第1、5、1、3、2、1、1、0號第1、5、1、3、2、1、2、0號第1、5、1、3、2、9、1、0號第1、5、1、3、2、9、2、0號第1、5、1、5、1、1、2、0、0號第1、5、1、5、1、9、0、0號"},{"start":43146.798,"end":43150.302,"text":"第15153000號、第15159010號、第15159020號、第15162012號、第15180010號、第15180020號及第15180030號等,暫時相之天然稅率修正碼上MHC用之稅率,宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第16章。"},{"start":43168.257,"end":43168.817,"text":"照審裁會意見通過第17章"},{"start":43195.117,"end":43208.463,"text":"第十七章,堂及堂國,修正第1703-1090後及第1703-9090後等二項之第二欄稅率,修正MHCM稅率,宣讀IB。照審查會意見通過,第十八章。"},{"start":43208.973,"end":43218.315,"text":"第十包裝可可及可可製品,修正第1801010後,第18010020後,第1805000後,第18031000後,第18032000後,第1804000後及第1805000後等7項是第二欄稅率,修正碼數MH是用這稅率。選讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第二十一章。"},{"start":43233.905,"end":43243.552,"text":"第21章雜項調製食品修正第2103、1010後之第二欄稅率修正馬上AMH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會議建動過第22章。"},{"start":43246.772,"end":43251.853,"text":"第二宣章 飲料、酒類及醋修正第2201、9010號、第2201、9090號、第2203、000號、第2207、2010號、第2207、2090號、第2208、2010號、第2208、2090號、第2208、3000號、第2208、4000號、第2208、5000號、第2208、6000號、第2808、7000號"},{"start":43273.317,"end":43287.787,"text":"第二、二、零、八、九零二零號第二、二、零、八、九零四零號第二、二、零、八、九零五零號第二、二、零、八、九零六零號集體二、二、零、八、九零七零號等十七項之第二欄稅率,修正碼上MH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":43292.318,"end":43299.622,"text":"第23宗食品工業產製過程之殘渣及廢品調製植物飼料修正第2301-1000號、第2301-2010號、第2301-2090號、第2302-1000號、第2302-5010號、第2302-5020號、第2303-2010號、第2303-2020號、第2303-2030號、第2303-3000號、第2304-0010號、第2304-0090號、"},{"start":43320.572,"end":43342.83,"text":"第二三零五零零一零號第二三零五零零九零號第二三零六一零零號第二三零六二零零號第二三零六三零零號第二三零六四一零號第二三零六四九零零號第二三零六五零零號第二三零六六零零號第二三零六九零一零號第二三零六九零九零號第二三零八零零零號第二三零九九零一零號"},{"start":43343.49,"end":43361.156,"text":"第二三零九九零二一號第二三零九九零二二號第二三零九九零二三號第二三零九九零三零號及第二三零九九零九零號等三時上午之第二欄稅率,修正碼上午MH先後之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第二十五章"},{"start":43361.909,"end":43390.658,"text":"第25章 鹽、硫磺、泥土及石料石膏料、石灰及水泥修正第二五零一零零一零號第二五零二零零零號第二五零三零零零號第二五零四一零零號第二五零四九零零號第二五零五一零零號第二五零五九零零號第二五零六一零零號第二五零六二零零號第二五零七零零號第二五零七零零號第二五零八一零零號第二五零八三零零號"},{"start":43393.43,"end":43412.215,"text":"第二五零八四零零零號第二五零八五零零零號第二五零八六零零零號第二五零八七零零零號第二五零九零零零號第二五一零一零零號第二五一零二零零號第二五一一一零零零號第二五一一二零零零號第二五一零零零號第二五一二零零零號"},{"start":43413.195,"end":43429.433,"text":"第二五一二零零九九號第二五一三一零零零號第二五一三二零一零號第二五一三二零二零號第二五一三二零三零號第二五一三二零九一號第二五一三二零九二號第二五一三二零九三號第二五一四零零一號第二五一五一一零"},{"start":43429.913,"end":43456.461,"text":"一一一零號第二五一五一一二零號第二五一五一二一一號第二五一五一二二一號第二五一五二零一零號第二五一五二零二一號第二五一六一一零零號第二五一六一二一零號第二五一六二零一零號第二五一六二零一零號第二五一六九零一零號第二五一六九零二一號第二五一七四九零零號第二五一八一零零號第二五一八二零零零號第二五一九一零零號"},{"start":43458.001,"end":43484.033,"text":"第二五一九九零零零號第二五二零一零一零號第二五二零一零二零號第二五二零二零零零號第二五二一零零零號第二五二一零零零號第二五二二零零零號第二五二三一零九零號第二五二三二九九零號第二五二三三零零零號第二五二三九零九零號第二五二五一零零零號第二五二二零零零號"},{"start":43484.753,"end":43502.894,"text":"第二五二五三零零號第二五二六一零零號第二五二六二零零號第二五二八零零零號第二五二九一零零號第二五二九二一零號第二五二九二二零零號第二五二九三零零號第二五三零一零號第二五三零一零"},{"start":43503.695,"end":43521.077,"text":"好。第二五三零一零二零號第二五三零九零四零號第二五三零九零七一號及第二五三零九零七二號等七十六項之第二難稅率修正馬上MH十五之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第二十六章"},{"start":43521.806,"end":43527.609,"text":"第26章 礦水溶渣及礦灰出身第2601 1100號 第2601 1200號 第2601 2000號 第2602 000號 第2603 000號 第2604 000號 第2605 000號 第2606 0010號 第2606 0020號 第2606 0030號"},{"start":43544.119,"end":43569.178,"text":"第二六零六零零九零號第二六零七零零零號第二六零八零零零號第二六零九零零零號第二六一零零零零號第二六一一零零零號第二六一二一零零號第二六一二二零零零號第二六一三一零零號第二六一三九零零零號第二六一四零零零號第二六一五零一零零號第二六一五九零零號第二六一六一零零號"},{"start":43569.918,"end":43570.738,"text":"第2169010號、第26169020號、第26169090號、第26171000號、第26179011號、第26179019號、第26179090號、第26180000號、第26190000號、第2620"},{"start":43587.447,"end":43614.011,"text":"一一零零號、第二六二零一九零零號、第二六二零二一零零號、第二六二零二九零零號、第二六二零三零零零號、第二六二零四零零零號、第二六二零六零零零號、第二六二零九一零零號、第二六二零九九九零號、第二六二一一零零零號、第二六二一九零一零號及第二六二一九零九零號等四十五項之第二欄稅率、修正碼上MH信用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":43615.239,"end":43640.557,"text":"照審查會意見通過第二十七章。第二十七章,礦物燃料、礦油及其專流成品含氯氢物質礦蠟。促進第二屆零一一一零零號第二屆零一一二零零號第二屆零一一九零零號第二屆零一二零零號第二屆零二一零零號第二屆零二二零零零號第二屆零三零零零號第二屆零四零零一零號第二屆零七一零零號第二屆零七二零零號"},{"start":43641.317,"end":43661.786,"text":"第二期零七三零零號第二期零七四零零號第二期零七五零零號第二期零九零零一零號第二期零九零零九零號第二期一零一二一零號第二期一零一二二零號第二期一零一二三零號第二期一零一九一一號第二期一零一九一九號第二期一零一九二零號第二期一零一九三一號"},{"start":43662.446,"end":43671.592,"text":"第二期101939號第二期101941號第二期101949號第二期101951號第二期101952號第二期101961號第二期101962號第二期101963號第二期101964號第二期101965號第二期101966號第二期101967號第二期101968號第二期101990號"},{"start":43686.983,"end":43714.989,"text":"第二期一零二零二一號第二期一零二零三零號第二期一零二零四零號第二期一零九九零零號第二期一一一一零零號第二期一一一二零零號第二期一一一三零零號第二期一一四零零號第二期一一九一零號第二期一一二一零零號及第二期一六零零零號等47項之第二欄稅率修正馬上AMH使用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":43716.192,"end":43726.309,"text":"照審查會意見通過。第二十八章第二十八章五金化學品過金屬、稀土金屬、方式性元素及其同位素之有機及五金化合物"},{"start":43727.938,"end":43729.139,"text":"求准第18011000號、第28012000號、第28013010號、第28013020號、第280200000號、第28011000號、第28021000號、第2802900號、第280300000號、第2804010號、第2804090號、第2805010號、第2805020號、"},{"start":43750.456,"end":43772.625,"text":"第二八零四六一一零號第二八零四六一二零號第二八零四六一九零號第二八零四六九零號第二八零四七零零號第二八零四八零零零號第二八零四九零零號第二八零五一一零號第二八零五一二零號第二八零五一九零號第二八零五三零一號第二八零五三零二零號第二八零五三零九零號"},{"start":43773.545,"end":43778.548,"text":"第1805、4000後、第281、1921後、第181、1922後、第281、1940後、第281、2210後、第281、1290後、第281、11000後、第281、1200後、第281、8100後、第281、82000後、第2820、1000後、第2823、0010後、第2825、5010後"},{"start":43801.98,"end":43823.003,"text":"第二八二五五零二零號第二八二五九零二零號第二八二五九零三零號第二八二七五一一零號第二八二七五一二零號第二八二九九零二零號第二八二九九零三零號第二八三六二零一零號第二八三六二零九零號第二八三六九二零號第二八四三九零零號第二八四四一零一零號"},{"start":43823.684,"end":43840.722,"text":"第二八四十一零九零後第二八四十二零零後第二八四十三零零後第二八四十四一零零後第二八四十四二零零後第二八四十三零零後第二八四十四零零後第二八四十五零零後第二八四十五一零零零後"},{"start":43841.543,"end":43870.985,"text":"第二八四五二零零後第二八四五三零零後第二八四五四零零後第二八四五九零零後第二八四六一零零零後第二八四六九零零後第二八四九二零零後第二八四九九零九零九零三零後第二八五三九零一二後第二八五三九零二零後第二八五三九零三零後第二八五三九零四零後及第二八五三九零五零後等七十三項之第二欄水域"},{"start":43871.525,"end":43874.649,"text":"出席馬上MHC用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":43881.704,"end":43905.89,"text":"第二十九章有機化學產品出證第二九零一一零一零號第二九零一一零二零號第二九零一一零三零號第二九零一一零四零號第二九零一一零九零號第二九零一二一零號第二九零一二二零零號第二九零一二三零零號第二九零一二四一零號第二九零一二四二零號第二九零一二九一零號第二九零一二九二零號第二九零一二九九零號"},{"start":43906.67,"end":43928.578,"text":"第二九零二一一零零號第二九零二一九零零號第二九零二二零零號第二九零二三零零號第二九零二四一零零號第二九零二四二零零號第二九零二四三零零號第二九零二四四零零號第二九零二五零零號第二九零二六零零號第二九零二七零零號第二九零二九零一零號第二九零二九零二一號"},{"start":43929.298,"end":43955.115,"text":"第二九零二九零二號第二九零二九零九零號第二九零三一五零號第二九零三六九一零號第二九零三八九一零號第二九零三八九二零號第二九零三九九一零號第二九零五一一零號第二九零五五九一零號第二九零五九二零號第二九零六一三二零號第二九零八一一零號第二九零八一九一零號第二九零八一九二零號第二九零九一九九"},{"start":43955.655,"end":43974.47,"text":"一九一零號第二九零九一九二零號第二九零九一九九零號第二九零九三零二零號第二九零九三零三零號第二九零九三零四零號第二九二九四九二零號第二九一零一零零號第二九一零二零零號第二九一四二九一零號第二九一五二四零號"},{"start":43975.231,"end":44000.139,"text":"第二九一五六零零零號第二九一五七零一一號第二九一六一五一零號第二九一六三十一零號第二九一六三十二零號第二九一六三十三零號第二九一六三九一一號第二九一七三九二零號第二九一八三零零號第二九二二四一零號第二九二二四九二零號第二九二二四九三零號第二九二四二九一零號第二九二五一九一零號"},{"start":44000.899,"end":44024.14,"text":"第二九二五一九二零號第二九二五一九三零號第二九三零四零一零號第二九三零九零二零號第二九三零九零三零號第二九三零九零四零號第二九三一二零一零號第二九三二一九二零號第二九三三一一零號第二九三三三九二零號第二九三三三九三零號第二九三三五二零號第二九三三五三零號"},{"start":44024.861,"end":44026.622,"text":"第29335400號、第29339920號、第29349110號、第29349930號、第29349940號、第29349950號、第29349960號、第29362100號、第29362200號、第29362300號、第29362400號、第29362500號"},{"start":44046.554,"end":44068.554,"text":"第二九三六二六零零號第二九三六二七零零號第二九三六二八零零號第二九三六二九一零號第二九三六二九二零號第二九三六二九三零號第二第二九三六二九四零號第二九三六二九五零號第二九三六二九九零號第二九三六九零一零號第二九三六九零二零號第二九三六九零九零號"},{"start":44069.275,"end":44096.434,"text":"第二九三七一一零零號第二九三七一二零零號第二九三七一九零零號第二九三七二一一零號第二九三七二一二零號第二九三七二二零零號第二九三七二九一零號第二九三七二九九零號第二九三七五零零號第二九三七九零零號第二九三八一零零號第二九三八九零零號第二九三九一一零號第二九三九一九一零號"},{"start":44099.181,"end":44120.184,"text":"第二九三九一九二零號第二九三九二零零號第二九三九三零一零號第二九三九三零二零號第二九三九三零九零號第二十二九三九四一零號第二九三九四二零號第二九三九四三零號第二九三九四四零號第二九三九四五零號第二九三九四九零零號第二九三九五一零號"},{"start":44120.965,"end":44139.677,"text":"第二九三九五九一零號第二九三九五九二零號第二九三九五九三零號第二九三九五九九零號第二九三九六一零號第二九三九六二零號第二九三九六三零號第二九三九六九零號第二九三九七二零號第二九三九七九零號第二九三九八零號"},{"start":44140.738,"end":44167.125,"text":"第二九四零零零零號第二九四一一零一零號第二九四一一零二零號第二九四一一零三零號第二九四一一零一零四零號第二九四一一零九零號第二九四一二零零零號第二九四一三零一零號第二九四一三零九零號第二九四一四零一零一零號第二九四一四零二零號第二九四一五零一零號第二九四一五零九零號"},{"start":44167.845,"end":44196.932,"text":"第二九四一九零一零號及第二九四一九零九零號等一百五十五項之第二欄稅率修正馬上AMH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。好。修正第二九一六一六零零號之第一欄稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第三十張徵注三。"},{"start":44198.069,"end":44220.98,"text":"第三十章醫藥品修正增助三宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過第三十章第三十章修正第三零零一二零零零後第三零零一九零一零後第三零零一九零二零後第三零零一九零零三零後第三零零一九零四零後第三零零一九零九零後"},{"start":44221.48,"end":44239.77,"text":"第三零零二一零二零零號第三零零二一三零零號第三零零二一四零零號第三零零二一五零零號第三零零二十一零號第三零零二四二零零號第三零零二四九零零號第三零零二五一零號第三零零二五九零零號"},{"start":44240.55,"end":44262.811,"text":"第三零零二九零零零號第三零零三一零零號第三零零三一零二零號第三零零三二零零號第三零零三三一零號第三零零三三九零零號第三零零三四一零號第三零零零三四二零零號第三零零零三四三零零號第三零零零零三四九零零號第三零零零三六零零號"},{"start":44263.792,"end":44283.817,"text":"第三零零三九一一零號第三零零三九零二零號第三零零三九零三零號第三零零三九零四零號第三零零三九零五零號第三零零三九零六零號第三零零三九零七九號第三零零三九零九二號第三零零三九零九三號第三零零三九零九四號"},{"start":44284.497,"end":44308.262,"text":"第三零零三九零九九號第三零零四一零一零號第三零零四一零二零號第三零零四二零零號第三零零四三一零號第三零零四三二零號第三零零四三九零號第三零零四四一零號第三零零四四二零號第三零零四四三零號第三零零四四九零號第三零零四五零零號"},{"start":44309.182,"end":44322.246,"text":"第三人名是6000號第三人名是9010號第三人名是9020號第三人名是9030號第三人名是9040號第三人名是9050號第三人名是9069號第三人名是9071號第三人名是9072號第三人名是9080號第三人名是9091號第三人名是9092號第三人名是9099號第三人名是0510100號"},{"start":44337.091,"end":44359.973,"text":"第三年零五一零二零號第三年零五一零九零號第三年零五九零一零號第三年零五九零二零號第三年零五九零三零號第三年零五九零四零號第三年零五九零九零號第三年零六一零一零號第三年零六一零二零號第三年零六一零三一號第三年零六一零三九號第三年零六三零零號"},{"start":44360.814,"end":44384.427,"text":"第三點零六四零一零號第三點零六四零二零號第三點零六五零一零號第三點零六五零二零號第三點零六六零零號及第三點零六九三零零號等八十項之地阿蘭稅率除者碼數MHC用之稅率。宣讀完畢。稍後審查會意見通過。第三十一章"},{"start":44385.151,"end":44389.477,"text":"第三水晶肥料出證第三1010010號第三1010020號第三1010090號第三1021010號第三1021020號第三1021090號第三1022010號"},{"start":44400.111,"end":44422.496,"text":"第三一零二二一九零號第三一零二二九零號第三一零二三零一零號第三一零二三零九零號第三一零二四零零號第三一零二五零一零號第三一零二五零九零號第三一零二六零零號第三一零二八零零號第三一零二九零零號第三一零三一一零號第三一零三一九零號第三一零三九零零號"},{"start":44423.576,"end":44449.266,"text":"第三一零是2010號第三一零是2090號第三一零是3010號第三一零是3090號第三一零是9010號第三一零是9090號第三一零五一零零號第三一零五二零零號第三一零五三零零號第三一零五四零零號第三一零五五一零號第三一零五五九零零號第三一零五六零零號"},{"start":44450.086,"end":44461.019,"text":"及第3105、900後等三十四項之第二欄稅率修正馬少MH信用稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第32章。"},{"start":44462.216,"end":44474.106,"text":"第三十二章若改或染適用萃取物、溶酸及其衍生物、染料、顏料及其他著色料、清淨及返利水、油灰及其他灰泥、墨淚、修正第3201-1000號、第3201-2000號、第3201-9010號、第3201-9020號、"},{"start":44481.613,"end":44505.248,"text":"第三二零一九零九零號第三二零二一零零號第三二零二九零一零號第三二零二九零三零號第三二零三零零一號第三二零三零零一九號第三二零三零零二一號第三二零三零零二二號第三二零三零零二九號第三二零三零零三零號第三二零四一二一零號第三二零六一一零號第三二一五一一一零號"},{"start":44505.968,"end":44515.91,"text":"及第3、2、1、5、1、9、10後等19項之第二欄稅率、修正碼上MH項之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第33章。"},{"start":44517.079,"end":44524.888,"text":"第33宗精油及樹脂狀物質香水化妝品或慣性用品出自第3301、1200後、第3301、1300後、第3301、1900後、第3301、2400後、第3301、2500後、第3301、2910後、第3301、2920後、第3301、2990後、"},{"start":44536.201,"end":44563.994,"text":"第三三零一三零零零後第三三零一九零一後第三三零一九零九零後第三三零二一零九零後第三三零二九零零後第三三零三零零零後第三三零四一零零後第三三零四二零零後第三三零四三零一零後第三三零四三零二零後第三三零四三零九零後第三三零四九一一零後第三三零四九一二零後第三三零四九一九零後第三三零四九九一零後"},{"start":44564.614,"end":44590.373,"text":"第三三零四九九二零號第三三零四九九九零號第三三零五一零零號第三三零五二零零號第三三零五三零零號第三三零五九零一零號第三三零五九零二零號第三三零五九零九零號第三三零六一零一零號第三三零六一零二零號第三三零六一零九零號第三三零六二零零號及第三三零六九零零零號等36項具電纜稅率、修正碼數、MHC用機稅率宣讀完畢。"},{"start":44593.925,"end":44612.395,"text":"照審查會意見通過第34章。第34章,肥皂有機介面活性劑、洗涤劑、潤滑劑、燃燥蠟、配置蠟、蒼光或除垢劑、蠟燭及類似品、塑形用、軟膏、牙科用蠟以及石鋼為機料之牙科用劑,修正第3401-1100號、第3401-1900號、第3401"},{"start":44617.618,"end":44643.336,"text":"二零一零號第三四零一二零九零號第三四零一三零零號第三四零四二零零號第三四零四九零一零號第三四零四九零三零號第三四零四九零九零號第三四零五一零零號第三四零五二零零號第三四零五三零零號第三四零五四零零號第三四零五九零零號第三四零六零零號第三四零七零零一零號第三四零七零零二零號"},{"start":44644.036,"end":44667.763,"text":"及第三四零七零零九零號等十八項之第二欄稅率修正碼授MH信用制稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第三十五章。第三十五章,蛋白狀物質、杆質澱粉、薑酵素修正第三五零六九一三零號之第二欄稅率修正碼授MH信用制稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第三十六章。"},{"start":44668.325,"end":44677.748,"text":"第36章照要煙火品、火柴、引火合金、困燃製品,修正第3604-1100號、第3604-1020號、第3604-9010號、第3604-9020號、第3604-9030號、第3604-9040號及第3604-9090號等7項之第二欄旋律,修正馬上AMH使用之旋律。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第37章"},{"start":44700.919,"end":44701.679,"text":"更換一下宣讀人員第三十七章感官或電影用品"},{"start":44726.118,"end":44726.838,"text":"修正第3701-1000號、第3701-2000號、第3701-3000號、第3701-9100號、第3701-9990號、第3702-1000號、第3702-3110號、第3702-3190號、第3702-3200號、第3702-3900號"},{"start":44748.187,"end":44771.601,"text":"第三七零二四一一零號第三七零二四一二零號第三七零二四一九零號第三七零二四二一零號第三七零二四二九零號第三七零二四三一零號第三七零二四三九零號第三七零二四四一零號第三七零二四四二零號第三七零二四四九零號第三七零二五二零零號"},{"start":44772.341,"end":44798.487,"text":"第三七零二五三零零號第三七零二五四一零號第三七零二五四九零號第三七零二五五一零號第三七零二五五九零號第三七零二五六一零號第三七零二五六九零號第三七零二九六零零號第三七零二九七零零號第三七零二九八零零號第三七零四零零一零號第三七零四零零二零號"},{"start":44799.187,"end":44821.429,"text":"第三七零四零零九零號第三七零五零零零號第三七零六一零三一號第三七零六一零三二號第三七零六一零三三號第三七零六一零四零號第三七零六一零五一號第三七零六一零五二號第三七零六一零五三號第三七零六一零六零號"},{"start":44822.19,"end":44822.37,"text":"第3706、1071號第3706、1072號第3706、1073號第3706、1080號第3706、1091號第3706、1092號第3706、1093號第3706、1099號第3706、9031號"},{"start":44843.573,"end":44851.664,"text":"第三七零六9032號第三七零六9039號第三七零六9041號第三七零六9042號第三七零六9049號第三七零六9090號第三七零七9010號"},{"start":44860.735,"end":44889.461,"text":"第三七零九七九零二零號第三七零七九零三零號及第三七零七九零九零號等62項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過第三十八章增注二第三十八章雜項化學產品修正增注二宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過第三十八章"},{"start":44890.148,"end":44892.089,"text":"第38章 修正第3802-1000號、第3802-9012號、第3803-0000號、第3807-0020號、第3808-5910號、第3808-9312號、第3811-1100號、第3811-1900號、第3811-2100號、第3811-2900號"},{"start":44916.201,"end":44916.261,"text":"第38180010號、第38180090號、第38221100號、"},{"start":44926.792,"end":44926.892,"text":"第38221300號第38221910號第38231100號第38231920號"},{"start":44956.612,"end":44984.839,"text":"第三八二四九九二一號第三八二四九九二二號第三八二四九九二三號第三八二四九九二六號第三八二四九九三十號第三八二四九九四二號第三八二四九九四三號第三八二四九九五二號及第三八二四九九五三號等35項之第二欄稅率�正馬少爾MH適用之稅率宣讀環比"},{"start":44986.178,"end":44993.204,"text":"照審查會意見通過。第39章第39章塑膠及其製品修正第3902、1000號、第3903、1900號、第3907、7000號、第3907、9920號、第3919、9020號、"},{"start":45005.934,"end":45006.114,"text":"第3920-6222號第3923-1010號第3923-4010號第3926-9011號第3926-9012號第3926-9013號第3926-9014號"},{"start":45023.812,"end":45048.473,"text":"第三九二六九零一五號第三九二六九零一六號第三九二六九零二一號第三九二六九零二二號第三九二六九零二三號第三九二六九零三一號第三九二六九零三九號第三九二六九零四九號及第三九二六九零九零號等21項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":45051.315,"end":45058.38,"text":"照審查會意見通過第40章第40章 橡膠及其製品修正第4001-1000號、第4001-2100號、第4001-2200號、第4001-2900號、第4001-3000號"},{"start":45070.928,"end":45091.6,"text":"第四零一一三零零零號第四零一一七零九零號第四零一三九零二零號及第四零一三九零三零號等9項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第41章"},{"start":45092.762,"end":45098.746,"text":"第41章生皮毛皮除外及皮革修正第4101、2000號第4101、5000號第4101、900號第4102、1000號第4102、2100號第4102、2900號第4103、2000號第4103、3000號第4103、9000號第4104、1110號"},{"start":45122.682,"end":45122.802,"text":"第4104、1191號第4104、1910號第4104、1990號第4104、4110號第4104、4910號第4105、1000號"},{"start":45139.995,"end":45140.135,"text":"第4106-2100號第4106-3110號第4106-3190號第4106-4010號第4106-4020號第4106-9110號第4106-9190號"},{"start":45158.67,"end":45176.457,"text":"第四一零七一一一零號、第四一零七一二一零號及第四一零七一九一零號等26項之第二欄稅率、修正碼少額MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第四十三章"},{"start":45177.202,"end":45184.287,"text":"第43章毛皮與人造毛皮及其製品修正第4301-1000號第4301-3000號第4301-6000號第4301-8000號第4301-9000號第4302-1900號第4302-2000號及第4302-3000號等八項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH使用之稅率"},{"start":45206.701,"end":45216.305,"text":"宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第44章。第44章木及木製品木炭修正第44011100號、第44011200號、第44012100號、第44012200號、第44013100號、第44013200號、"},{"start":45230.811,"end":45231.151,"text":"第4401-3900號第4401-4100號第4401-4900號第4402-1000號第4402-2000號第4402-9000號第4403-1100號"},{"start":45248.081,"end":45250.663,"text":"第4403-1200號第4403-2100號第4403-2200號第4403-2300號第4403-2400號第4403-2500號第4403-2600號第4403-4100號第4403-1200號第4403-4900號第4403-9100號第4403-9300號"},{"start":45278.241,"end":45278.361,"text":"第4403 9400號第4403 9500號第4403 9600號第4403 9700號第4403 9800號第4403 9900號"},{"start":45293.328,"end":45293.648,"text":"第4404-1000號第4404-2000號第4405-0010號第4405-0020號第4405-0090號第4406-1100號第4406-1200號第4406-9100號"},{"start":45313.208,"end":45313.448,"text":"第406-9200號第407-1100號第407-1200號第407-1300號第407-1400號第407-1900號第407-2100號第407-2200號第407-2300號第407-2500號"},{"start":45337.563,"end":45337.743,"text":"第4407-2600號第4407-2700號第4407-2800號第4407-2900號第4407-9100號第4407-9200號第4407-9300號"},{"start":45354.673,"end":45355.053,"text":"第407-9400號第407-9500號第407-9600號第407-9700號第407-9900號第408-1000號第408-3100號第408-3990號第408-9090號"},{"start":45378.198,"end":45404.666,"text":"第四四零九一零零零號第四四零九二一零零號第四四零九二二零零號第四四零九二九零零號第四四一零一一零號第四四一零一二零零號第四四一零一九一零號第四四一零一九九零號第四四一零九九二第四四一零九零零號第四四一一一二一零號第四四一一"},{"start":45405.626,"end":45421.644,"text":"一二九零號第四十一一一三一零號第四十一一一三九零號第四十一一一四一零號第四十一一一四九零號第四十一一九二一零號第四十一一九二九零號"},{"start":45422.425,"end":45429.887,"text":"第四是119310號第四是119390號第四是119410號第四是119490號第四是121011號第四是123910號第四是123920號第四是124910號第四是125910號"},{"start":45443.61,"end":45451.255,"text":"第四是125920號第四是129910號第四是130010號第四是130090號第四是141000號第四是149000號第四是151000號第四是152000號第四是160010號第四是160090號第四是170000號第四是181100號第四是181900號"},{"start":45473.69,"end":45489.788,"text":"第四十一八二一零零號第四十一八二九零零號第四十一八三零零號第四十一八四零零號第四十一八五零零號第四十一八七三零零號第四十一八七四零零號"},{"start":45490.569,"end":45519.425,"text":"第四十一八七五零零號第四十一八七九零零號第四十一八八一零零號第四十一八八二零零號第四十一八八三零零號第四十一八八九零零號第四十一八九一零零號第四十一八九二零零號第四十一八九九零零號第四十一九一一零零號第四十一九一二零零號第四十一九一九零零號第四十一九二零零號"},{"start":45520.345,"end":45523.866,"text":"第4419900號、第44201100號、第44201900號、第44209010號、第44209020號、第44211000號、第44212000號、第44219100號及第44219900號等133項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。"},{"start":45549.693,"end":45559.98,"text":"照審查會意見通過第45章第45章軟木及軟木製品修正第4501-1000號、第4501-9000號及第4502-0000號等三項之第二欄稅率修正碼少額MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第46章"},{"start":45573.956,"end":45581.885,"text":"第46章草及其他邊解材料之邊解品邊欄及柳條邊解品修正第46012210號第46012910號第46012920號第46012990號第46019310號"},{"start":45595.58,"end":45595.74,"text":"第4601 9400號第4601 9910號第4601 9920號第4601 9930號第4601 9940號第4601 9991號第4601 9992號第4602 1100號"},{"start":45617.72,"end":45639,"text":"第四六零二一二零零號、第四六零二一九一零號、第四六零二一九九零號及第四六零二九零零號等十七項之第二欄稅率、修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第47章。"},{"start":45639.69,"end":45649.775,"text":"第47章木漿或其他纖維素材料之紙將回收廢料及血水紙或紙板修正第4701000號第4702000號第47031100號第47031900號第47032100號第47032900號第4704"},{"start":45665.703,"end":45667.084,"text":"第1100號第47041900號第47042100號第47042900號第4705000號第47061000號第47062000號第47063000號"},{"start":45683.72,"end":45685.301,"text":"第4706-9100號第4706-9210號第4706-9290號第4706-9300號第4707-1000號第4707-2000號第4707-3010號第4707-3090號及第4707-9000號等23項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。"},{"start":45712.984,"end":45713.628,"text":"照審查會意見通過第48章"},{"start":45716.621,"end":45722.905,"text":"第48章 紙及紙板 紙、漿、紙與紙板之製品修正第4801000號、48021000號、第48022000號、第48024000號、第48025400號、第48025510號、第48025590號、第48025610號、"},{"start":45744.218,"end":45769.417,"text":"第四八零二五六二零號第四八零二五六九零號第四八零二五七一零號第四八零二五七九零號第四八零二五八一零號第四八零二五八二零號第四八零二六一一零號第四八零二六一二零號第四八零二六二一零號第四八零二六二二零號"},{"start":45770.217,"end":45789.898,"text":"第四八零二六二九零號第四八零二六九一零號第四八零二六九九零號第四八零三零零一零號第四八零三零零二零號第四八零四一一零零號第四八零四一九零零號第四八零十二一零零號"},{"start":45790.819,"end":45790.939,"text":"第4804-2900號第4804-3100號第4804-3900號第4804-4100號第4804-4200號第4804-4900號"},{"start":45806.221,"end":45823.82,"text":"第四八零四五一零零號第四八零四五二零零號第四八零四五九零零號第四八零五一一零號第四八零五一二零零號第四八零五一九一零號第四八零五一九九零號"},{"start":45824.901,"end":45825.381,"text":"第4805-2400號第4805-2500號第4805-3000號第4805-4011號第4805-4019號第4805-4020號第4805-5000號第4805-9100號第4805-92010號"},{"start":45847.899,"end":45874.991,"text":"第四八零五九二九零號第四八零五九三一零號第四八零五九三九零號第四八零六一零零號第四八零六二零零號第四八零六三零零號第四八零六四零零號第四八零七零零零號第四八零八一零一零號第四八零八一零二零號第四八零八一零九零號"},{"start":45875.791,"end":45893.348,"text":"第四八零八四零零零號第四八零八九零零零號第四八零九二零零號第四八零九九零一零號第四八零九九零九零號第四八一零一三一零號第四八一零一三二零號"},{"start":45894.108,"end":45896.569,"text":"第4810-1410號第4810-1420號第4810-1490號第4810-1910號第4810-1990號第4810-2210號第4810-2220號第4810-2900號第4810-3100號第4810-3210號第4810-3220號第4810-3910號"},{"start":45923.519,"end":45923.779,"text":"第48103920號第48109210號第48109220號第48109230號第48109290號第48109900號第48111000號第48114100號第48114900號第48115100號"},{"start":45948.974,"end":45949.094,"text":"第48115900號第4811600號第48119900號第48120000號第48131000號第48132000號"},{"start":45965.825,"end":45966.526,"text":"第48139010號第48139090號第48142000號第48149000號第48162000號第48169010號第48169090號"},{"start":45983.877,"end":45986.439,"text":"第4817-1000號第4817-2000號第4817-3000號第4818-1000號第4818-2000號第4818-3000號第4818-5000號第4818-9000號第4819-1000號第4819-2000號"},{"start":46007.955,"end":46008.655,"text":"第48193000號第48194000號第48195000號第48196000號第48201000號第48202000號第48203000號第48204000號第48205010號第48205020號第48205090號"},{"start":46034.602,"end":46035.002,"text":"第4820900號第48211000號第4821900號第48221000號第4822900號第48232000號第48234000號第48236100號"},{"start":46054.033,"end":46070.973,"text":"第四八二三六九零零號、第四八二三七零零零號及第四八二三九零零號等一、三、三項之第二欄稅率、修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第49章。"},{"start":46072.386,"end":46081.573,"text":"第49章書籍、新聞報紙、圖書及其他印刷工業產品、手寫稿、打字稿及設計圖樣修正第4901-1000號第4901-9100號第4901-9910號第4901-9990號第4902-1000號第4902-9000號第4903-0010號"},{"start":46098.667,"end":46126.446,"text":"第四九零三零零二零號第四九零四零零零號第四九零五二零零號第四九零五九零零號第四九零六零零零號第四九零七零零一零號第四九零七零零二零號第四九零七零零三零號第四九零七零零四零號第四九零七零零九零號第四九零八一零零號第四九零八九零零號"},{"start":46127.447,"end":46150.43,"text":"第四九零九零零一零號、第四九零九零零九零號、第四九一零零零零號、第四九一一一零零零號、第四九一一九一零零號及第四九一一九九零零號等25項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第五十章。"},{"start":46151.587,"end":46156.789,"text":"第五十章 修正第5002、2000號、第5003、0010號、第5003、0090號及第5004、0090號等四項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第五十一章"},{"start":46172.881,"end":46196.419,"text":"第五十一張羊毛、動物粗細毛、馬毛、沙及其縮之物修正第五一一一一一零零號、第五一零一一九零零號、第五一零一二一零零號、第五一零一二九零零號、第五一零一三零零零號、"},{"start":46197.199,"end":46217.329,"text":"第五一零二一一一零號第五一零二一一二零號第五一零二一九一零號第五一零二一九二零號第五一零二二零一零號第五一零二二零二零號第五一零三一零零號第五一零三二零零號第五一零三三零零號"},{"start":46218.249,"end":46244.646,"text":"第五一零四零零零號、第五一零五一零零號、第五一零五二一零零號、第五一零五二九零零號、第五一零五三一零零號、第五一零五三九零零號及第五一零五四零零號等21項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第五十二章"},{"start":46245.56,"end":46270.319,"text":"第五十二章明花修正第五二零一五二零一零零零號、第五二零二一零零號、第五二零二九一零零號、第五二零二九九零零號及第五二零三零零零零號等五項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH使用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第五十三章"},{"start":46270.987,"end":46295.909,"text":"第五十三章其他職務仿之先為指殺及指殺說職務。修正第五三零一一零零零號、第五三零一二一零零號、第五三零一二九零零號、第五三零一三零零零號、第五三零二一零零零號、第五三零二九零零零號、第五三零三一零一零號、第五三零三一零九零號、"},{"start":46296.61,"end":46314.253,"text":"第五三零三九零零零號、第五三零五零零零號及第五三零八一零零號等11項之第二欄稅率、修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第五十六章。"},{"start":46314.98,"end":46331.396,"text":"第五十六章填充用材料、簪泥、不織布、特種紗、染線、繩索、籃及其製品修正第五六零三一一一零號、第五六零三一二一零號、第五六零三一三一零號"},{"start":46332.117,"end":46353.664,"text":"第五六零三一四一零號第五六零三九一一零號第五六零三九二一零號第五六零三九三一零號第五六零三九四一零號第五六零八一一零號第五六零九零零一零號第五六零九零零二零號第五六零九零零三零號"},{"start":46354.304,"end":46365.199,"text":"第五六零九零零四零號及第五六零九零零九零號等14項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH使用之稅率,宣布完畢。"},{"start":46370.253,"end":46390.243,"text":"第五十七章,地毯及其他紡織材料附地物修正第五七零二一零零零號及第五七零二二零零零號等二項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第五十八章"},{"start":46391.055,"end":46415.083,"text":"第五十八章特殊說之物、簇絨之物、花邊之物、掛毯、裝飾之物、刺繡之物修正第五八零四三零一零號、第五八零四三零九零號、第五八零五零零一零號、第五八零五零零二零號、第五八零五零零三零號、第五八零五零零四零號"},{"start":46415.763,"end":46419.149,"text":"及第5805、0090號等7項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MHCN之稅率宣禮完畢。"},{"start":46429.837,"end":46441.604,"text":"第五十九章禁字、塗布、被覆或黏合之紡織物、工業用紡織物。修正第5907、0030號及第591、9010號等二項之第二欄稅率。修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第61章"},{"start":46453.274,"end":46480.744,"text":"第六十一章針織或鉤針織之衣著及服飾附屬品修正第六一一七一零一零號、第六一一七零二零號、第六一一七一零三零號及第六一一七零九零號等四項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第六十三章"},{"start":46481.567,"end":46492.733,"text":"第63章其他製成紡織品、組合品、舊衣著及舊紡織品破布修正第6306、3010號及第6306、3090號等二項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第64章"},{"start":46505.919,"end":46533.636,"text":"第六十四章斜靴綁腿及類似品此類物品之零件修正第六四零一一零一零號第六四零二九一一零號第六四零二九九一零號及第六四零三四零零零號等事項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第六十七章"},{"start":46534.352,"end":46558.872,"text":"第六十七章以整理之羽毛、羽絨及其製品、人造花、人髮製品修正第六七零一零零一零號、第六七零一零零二零號及第六七零一零零三零號等三項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH施用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第六十八章"},{"start":46559.534,"end":46571.606,"text":"第68章石料、膠泥、水泥、石棉、雲母或類似材料之製品修正第6806、2000號之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第69章"},{"start":46578.786,"end":46595.738,"text":"第69章陶瓷產品修正第6902、9010號之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH試用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第70章。第70章玻璃及玻璃器修正第7001、0000號第7003、1210號第7003、1290號第7014、0021號第7014、0029號"},{"start":46608.647,"end":46626.245,"text":"第七零一五九零四零號、第七零一五九零五零號、第七零一五九零九零號、第七零二零零零一二號及第七零二零零零四零號等十項之第二欄稅率、修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":46631.192,"end":46652.195,"text":"第七十一章天然珍珠或養珠、寶石或赤寶石、貴金屬被覆蓋、被覆貴金屬之金屬及其製品防守式籌幣修正第七一零一一零零零號、第七一零一二一零零號、第七一零一二二零零號"},{"start":46652.936,"end":46682.136,"text":"第七一零二一零零號第七一零二二一零零號第七一零二二九零零號第七一零二三一零零號第七一零二三九零零號第七一零三一零零號第七一零三九一零零號第七一零三九九零零號第七一零四一零零號第七一零四二一一零號第七一零四二一二零號第七一零四二一三零號"},{"start":46682.836,"end":46685.296,"text":"第704-2140號第704-2911號第704-2919號第704-2920號第704-9110號第704-9120號第704-9911號第704-9919號第704-9920號第705-1010號第705-1090號"},{"start":46711.121,"end":46711.742,"text":"第705、900號第706、1000號第706、9100號第706、9200號第707、0000號第708、1100號第708、1210號第708、1290號第708、1310號第708、1390號第708、2000號第709、0000號"},{"start":46740.623,"end":46769.645,"text":"第七一零一一零零號第七一零一九零零號第七一零二一零零號第七一零二九零零號第七一零三一零零號第七一一零三九零零號第七一零四一零零號第七一零四九零零號第七一一一零零零號第七一一二三零零號第七一一二九一零零號第七一一二九二零零號"},{"start":46770.345,"end":46794.371,"text":"第七七一一二九九九零號第七七一三一一零零號第七七一三一九零零號第七七一三二零零零號第七七一四一一零零號第七七一四一九零零號第七一一四二零零零號第七一五一零零號第七一五九零一零號第七七一五九零二零號"},{"start":46795.151,"end":46822.236,"text":"第七一一五九零三零號第七一一五九零四零號第七一一五九零五零號第七一一五九零九零號第七一一六一零一零號第七一一六一零九零號第七一一六二零一零號第七一一六二零九零號第七一七一一零零號第七一七一九零零號第七一七九零零號"},{"start":46823.436,"end":46835.785,"text":"第七一一八一零零零號、第七一八九零一零號及第七一一八九零九零號等七十四項之第二欄稅率、修正碼少額MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":46841.519,"end":46844.34,"text":"第72章鋼鐵修正第7201-1000號第7201-2000號第7201-5010號第7201-5020號第7202-1100號"},{"start":46856.946,"end":46857.086,"text":"第7202-1900號第7202-2100號第7202-2900號第7202-3000號第7202-4100號第7202-4900號第7202-5000號"},{"start":46873.533,"end":46873.673,"text":"第7202-6000號第7202-7000號第7202-8010號第7202-8020號第7202-9110號第7202-9120號第7202-9200號"},{"start":46891.627,"end":46892.207,"text":"第7202-9300號第7202-9910號第7202-9990號第7203-1000號第7203-9010號第7203-9020號第7204-1000號第7204-2100號第7204-2900號第7204-3000號"},{"start":46916.636,"end":46919.138,"text":"第7204-4100號第7204-4920號第7204-4990號第7204-5000號第7205-1010號第7205-1020號第7205-2100號第7205-2900號第7206-1000號第7206-9000號第7207-1100號第7207-1200號"},{"start":46945.219,"end":46945.379,"text":"第7、207、1900號第7、207、2000號第7、208、1010號第7、208、1090號第7、208、2510號第7、208、2520號第7、208、2530號第7、208、2610號"},{"start":46964.946,"end":46965.086,"text":"第7、208、26、20號第7、208、26、30號第7、208、27、10號第7、208、27、20號第7、208、27、30號第7、208、36、10號第7、208、36、20號"},{"start":46981.664,"end":46982.164,"text":"第7、208、3630號第7、208、3710號第7、208、3720號第7、208、3730號第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零號第七三二六九零八零號及第七三二六九零九零號等七十七項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第七十四章"},{"start":48549.502,"end":48567.796,"text":"第七十四章同期期制品修正第七四零一零零一零號第七四零一零零九零號第七四零二零零零號第七四零三一一零零號第七四零三一二零零號第七四零三一三零零號第七四零三一九零零號第七四零三二一零零號第七四零三二二零零號"},{"start":48568.396,"end":48588.753,"text":"第七四零三二九一零號、第七四零三二九九零號、第七四零五零零零號、第七四零六一零零號、第七四零六二零零號及第七四一九八零三零號等15項之第二欄稅率、修正碼少為MH以適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第七十五章。"},{"start":48589.318,"end":48594.099,"text":"第七十五章 擬及其製品修正第7501-1000號第7501-2000號第7502-1000號第7502-2000號第7503-0000號第7504-0000號第7505-1110號第7505-1120號第7505-1210號第7505-1220號第7505-2100號第7505-2200號第7506-1010號"},{"start":48616.545,"end":48618.346,"text":"照審查會意見通過第七十六章"},{"start":48642.813,"end":48661.022,"text":"第七十六章履及其製品修正第七六零一一零零零號第七六零一二零一零號第七六零一二零二零號第七六零三一零零號第七六零三二零零零號第七六零五一一零號第七六零五一九零零號第七六零五二一一零號第七六零五二九零零號"},{"start":48661.622,"end":48681.381,"text":"第七六零七一一零號、第七六零七一二零號、第七六零七一九二零號、第七六一五一零一零號、第七六一五二零零號、第七六一六九九三零號及第七六一六九九四一號等16項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第七十八章。"},{"start":48681.889,"end":48702.752,"text":"第七十八章簽及其製品修正第七八零一一零零號、第七八零一九一零零號、第七八零一九九零零號、第七八零二零零零號及第七八零四二零零零號等五項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第七十九章"},{"start":48703.393,"end":48710.859,"text":"第79章新及其製品修正第7901、1100號、第7901、1200號、第7903、1000號及第7903、9000號等四項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第八十章。"},{"start":48723.956,"end":48726.777,"text":"第八十章習及其製品修正第8001-1000號、第8001-2000號、第8002-0000號、第8003-0010號、第8003-0020號、第8003-0030號、第8007-0020號、第8007-0030號、"},{"start":48742.324,"end":48757.487,"text":"八零零七零零四零號、第八零零七零零五零號、第八零零七零零六零號及第八零零七零零七零號等十二項之第二欄稅率、修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。到審查會意見通過第八十一章。"},{"start":48758.046,"end":48781.718,"text":"第八十一章其他杯金屬持金及其製品修正第八一零一一零零零號、第八一零一九四零零號、第八一零一九六零零號、第八一零一九七零零號、第八一零一九九一零號、第八一零一九九九零號、第八一零二一零零零號、第八一零二九四零零號、第八一零二九五零零號、第八一零二九六零零號、第八一零二九七零零號、第八一零二九九零零號、第八一零三二零一零號"},{"start":48782.498,"end":48808.119,"text":"第八一零三二零二零號 第八一零三三零零號 第八一零三九一零號 第八一零三九九零零號 第八一零四一一零號 第八一零四一九零零號 第八一零四二零零號 第八一零四三零一零號 第八一零四三零二零號 第八一零四九零零號 第八一零五二零一零號 第八一零五二零二零號 第八一零五三零零零號 第八一零五九零一零號 第八一零五九九九零九零號 第八一零六"},{"start":48808.88,"end":48836.747,"text":"一零零號、第八一零六九零零零號、第八一零八二零零號、第八一零八三零零號、第八一零八九零一零號、第八一零八九零九零號、第八一零九二一零號、第八一零九二九零零號、第八一零九三一零零號、第八一零九三九零零號、第八一零九九一零零號、第八一零九九九零零號、第八一一零一零零零號、第八一一八一一二二零零零號、第八一一一零九零零零號、第八一一一零零零零號、第八一"},{"start":48838.648,"end":48860.666,"text":"2020號、第八一一一零零三零號、第八一一二一二零零號、第八一一二一三零零號、第八一一二一九零零號、第八一一二二一零零號、第八一一二二二零零號、第八一一二二九零零號、第八一一二三一零零號、第八一一二三九一零號、第八一一二三九九零號、第八一一二四一零零號、第八一一二四九一零號、第八一一二四九九零號、第八一一二五"},{"start":48861.286,"end":48878.099,"text":"八一一二五一零零號、第八一二五二零零號、第八一一二五九零零號、第八一一二六一零號、第八一一二六九一零號、第八一一二六九二零號、第八一一二六九九零號、第八一一八一一二九二一號、第八一一二九二一二號、第八一一二九二一九號、第八一一"},{"start":48878.519,"end":48883.34,"text":"二、9、2、2、3號、第8、1、2、9、2、2、4號、第8、1、2、9、2、2、9號、第8、1、2、9、9、1號、第8、1、2、9、9、1、9號、第8、1、1、2、9、9、30號、第8、1、2、9、9、40號、第8、1、2、9、9、9、9、0號、第8、1、3、0、1、0號、第8、1、3、0、2、0號及第8、1、1、3、0、1、3、0號等79項之第二欄稅率、修正馬賽爾MH稅率、適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":48907.54,"end":48933.187,"text":"告審查會意見通過第八十二章。第八十二章被金屬製工具、器具、利器、尺、叉及其零件修正第八二零八四零一零號、第八二零九零零一零號及第八二一五九九零零號等三項之第二藍稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率修正第八二一一九五三零號之第一藍稅率。宣讀完畢。告審查會意見通過第八十三章。"},{"start":48933.615,"end":48952.51,"text":"第八十三章雜項杯金屬製品修正第八三零一二零零號及第八三零二三零零號等二項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第八十四章增注三、十、十一及十四"},{"start":48953.581,"end":48966.131,"text":"第84章核子反應器鍋爐器機具及機械用具及其零件修正珍珠三、珍珠十、珍珠十一及珍珠十四宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第84章"},{"start":48969.383,"end":48991.311,"text":"第八十四章 修正第八四零一一零零零號 第八四零一二零零號 第八四零一三零零號 第八四零一四零零號 第八四零七一零零號 第八四零九一零零號 第八四零九九一七零號 第八四零九九九九零號 第八四一一一一零號 第八四一一一二零零號 第八四一二"},{"start":48992.151,"end":49021.22,"text":"第八四一二一零零號,第八四一二二零號,第八四一一九一零號,第八四一四一零一零號,第八四一四五九一零號,第八四一七八零一零號,第八四一八二九二零號,第八四一八三零一零號,第八四一八四零一零號,第八四一八五零一零號,第八四一八六九五零號,第八四一八六九六零號,第八四一九二零零號,第八四一九四零一零號,第八四一九四零二零號,第八四一九五零一零號,"},{"start":49021.9,"end":49041.831,"text":"第八四一九八九三零號。第八四一九八九五零號。第八四一九九零二零號。第八四一九九零九零號。第八四二零一零二零號。第八四二一二九一零號。第八四二一三九二零號。第八四二一九九二零號。第八四二三二零一零號。第八四二三三零一零號。第八四二三八一一零號。"},{"start":49042.791,"end":49070.428,"text":"第八四二三八二一零號。第八四二三八九一零號。第八四二三九零九零號。第八四二四八九一零號。第八四二四八九二零號。第八四二四九零三零號。第八四二五一一零號。第八四二五一九零號。第八四二五三一零號。第八四二五三九零號。第八四二五四一零號。第八四二五四二零號。第八四二五四九零號。第八四二六一一零號。第八四二六一二一零號。"},{"start":49071.889,"end":49093.732,"text":"八四二六一二二零號第八四二六一九零號第八四二六二零零號第八四二六三零零號第八四二六四一零號第八四二六四九零號第八四二六九一零號第八四二六九九零號第八四二八一零一號第八四二八一零一九號第八四二八一零二零號第八四二八二零一號"},{"start":49094.873,"end":49112.287,"text":"第八四二八二零二零號第八四二八三一零號第八四二八三二零號第八四二八三三零號第八四二八三九零號第八四二八四零一零號第八四二八四零二零號第八四二八六零一號第八四二八七零一號第八四二八九零一號"},{"start":49113.248,"end":49134.778,"text":"第八四二九一一零零號第八四二九一九零零號第八四二九二零零號第八四二九三零零號第八四二九四零零號第八四二九五一零號第八四二九五二零號第八四二九五九零號第八四三零一零零號第八四三零二零零號第八四三零三一零號第八四三零三九零號"},{"start":49135.498,"end":49144.583,"text":"第八十三零四一一零號第八十三零四一九零號第八十三零四九零號第八十三零五零零號第八十三零六一零號"},{"start":49146.229,"end":49166.895,"text":"第八十三零六九零零號、第八十三一一零零號、第八十三一三一一零號、第八十三一三一九零號、第八十三一三九零零號、第八十三一四一零零號、第八十三一四二零零號、第八十三一四三零零號、第八十三一四九零零號、第八十三二一零一零號、第八十三二一零九零號"},{"start":49167.495,"end":49195.162,"text":"第八十三二二一零號第八十三二二九一零號第八十三二二九九零號第八十三二二第八十三二三一零號第八十三二三九零號第八十三二四一零號第八十三二四二零號第八十三二八零一零號第八十三二八零九零號第八十三二九零一零號第八十三二九零二零號第八十三二九零三零號第八十三二九零九零號第八十三三一一零號"},{"start":49195.942,"end":49211.17,"text":"第八十三三一九零零號第八十三三二零零號第八十三三三零零號第八十三三四零零號第八十三三五一零號第八十三三五二零號第八十三三五三一零號第八十三三五三九零號"},{"start":49211.71,"end":49230.345,"text":"第八四三三五九零零號,第八四四三三六零號,第八四三三九零零號,第八四三四一零零號,第八四三四二零零號,第八四三四九零零號,第八四四二三零一零號,第八四四二三零三零號,"},{"start":49232.807,"end":49256.021,"text":"第八四四二三零九零號第八四四二四零一零號第八四四二四零九零號第八四四二五零一零號第八四四二五零二零號第八四四二五零三零號第八四二四二五零九零號第八四四三一九一零號第八四四三一三一零號第八四四三三二零號第八四四三三九零號"},{"start":49258.012,"end":49285.11,"text":"第八四十三九一零零號第八四十三九九零零號第八四五三二零零號第八四五六一一一零號第八四五六一二一零號第八四四八四六六九三二零號第八四六六九三三零號第八四六七二九一零號第八四六七二九二零號第八四六七二九三零號第八四六七二九四零號第八四六七二九九零號第八四七零一零號"},{"start":49286.911,"end":49310.783,"text":"第八四七零一零二零號。第八四七零二一零號。第八四七零二九零號。第八四七零三零零號。第八四七零五零零號。第八四七零九零零號。第八四七一三零零號。第八四七一四一零號。第八四七一四九零號。第八四七一五零零號。第八四七一六零一號。第八四七一六零三零號。第八四七一六零九零號。"},{"start":49312.303,"end":49338.721,"text":"第八四七七零一零號第八四七一七零九零號第八四七八零零零號第八四七九零一零號第八四七九零二零號第八四七九零三零號第八四七九零四零號第八四七九零九零號第八四七二一零零號第八四七二三零一零號第八四七二九零一零號第八四七二九零二零號第八四七二九零三零號第八四七二九零四零號第八四七二九零五零號"},{"start":49342.825,"end":49362.765,"text":"第八是七二九零七零號第八是七二九零九零號第八是七三二一零零號第八是七三二九零零號第八是七三四零一零號第八是七三四零二零號第八是七三四零九零號第八是七三五零零號第八是七三七四一零零號第八是七四二零零號"},{"start":49364.332,"end":49389.27,"text":"第八四七四三一零零號第八四七四三二零零號第八四七四三九零零號第八四七四八零零號第八四七四九零零號第八四七五二一零號第八四七五九零一零號第八四七六八九一零號第八四七六八九二零號第八四七六九零一零號第八四七六九零二零號第八四七九一零號第八四七九一零號"},{"start":49391.131,"end":49405.787,"text":"第八四七九一零九零號第八四七九八九三零號第八四七九八九五零號第八四七九八九六一號第八四七九八九九一號第八四七九九零一零號第八四七九九零二零號第八四七九九零三零號"},{"start":49406.548,"end":49427.422,"text":"第八四八一八零五零號、第八四八一八零六零號、第八四八一九零一零號、第八四八一九零二零號、第八四八一九零九零號、第八四八六一零零號、第八四八六二零零號、第八四八六三零零號、第八四八六四零零號、第八四八六九零零號、"},{"start":49428.283,"end":49450.628,"text":"及第八四、八七、一零零號等227項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹偶MH適用之稅率,修正第八四一八一零一號、第八四一八一零一二號及第八四一八一零一三號等三項之第一欄稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第八十五章徵注釋。"},{"start":49452.179,"end":49468.488,"text":"第85章電機與設備及其零件錄音機及聲音重放機電視影像聲音記錄機及重放機以及上述各物資零件及附件修正珍珠四宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第85章"},{"start":49471.789,"end":49473.27,"text":"第85章 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號等三十五項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。照審查會意見,通過第九十章增注因。"},{"start":50266.741,"end":50281.19,"text":"第九十章:「光學、照相、電影、計量、檢查、精密、內科或外科儀器及器具、上述物品及零件及附件,修正增入一。」宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第九十章。第九十章。修正第9001-100號、第9001-200號、第9001-9010號、第9001-9020號、第9001-9090號、"},{"start":50295.253,"end":50297.155,"text":"第9002-1110號第9002-1900號第9002-2000號第9002-9010號第9002-9020號第9002-9031號第9002-9032號第9002-9033號第9002-9039號第9002-9040號第9002-9090號"},{"start":50317.413,"end":50319.275,"text":"第9006、4000號第9010、5010號第9010、5020號第9010、5090號第9010、6000號第9010、9030號第9011、1000號第9011、8000號第9011、9000號第9012、1000號"},{"start":50340.913,"end":50341.394,"text":"第9012900號第90131010號第90131030號第90132000號第90139090號第90141000號第90142000號第90148010號第90148020號第90148090號第90149000號"},{"start":50362.017,"end":50362.157,"text":"第9015-1000號第9015-2000號第9015-4000號第9015-8010號第9015-8020號第9015-8030號"},{"start":50373.643,"end":50375.404,"text":"第90158090號第90159010號第90159090號第90160010號第90160020號第90160030號第90160090號第90171010號第90172010號第90173000號第901790"},{"start":50394.17,"end":50396.011,"text":"10號、第90181100號、第90181200號、第90181300號、第90181400號、第90181910號、第90181930號、第90181990號、第90182000號、第90183100號、第90183200號、第90183900號、第90184100號、第90184910號、第90184920號、第90185000號、"},{"start":50423.84,"end":50445.768,"text":"第九零一八九零一零號第九零一八九零二零號第九零一八九零三零號第九零一八九零四零號第九零一八九零五零號第九零一八九零六零號第九零一八九零八零號第九零一八九零九零號第九零一九一零一號第九零一九一零一九號第九零一九一零二零號第九零一九零一零號"},{"start":50446.368,"end":50446.568,"text":"第90192020號、第90192030號、第9019050號、第9019060號、第90192090號、第90211010號、第90211020號、第90212100號、第90212910號、第90212990號、"},{"start":50469.117,"end":50471.498,"text":"第9023100號、第9023911號、第9023912號、第9023920號、第9023931號、第9023932號、第9023940號、第9023950號、第9023960號、第9023990號、第90214000號、第90215000號、第90219010號、第90219090號、"},{"start":50493.843,"end":50495.465,"text":"第9022-1200號第9022-1300號第9022-1400號第9022-1900號第9022-2110號第9022-2190號第9022-2900號第9022-3000號第9022-900號第9023-0010號第9023-0090號第9024-1000號"},{"start":50516.647,"end":50517.707,"text":"第9024-8000號、9024-9000號、第9025-1110號、第9025-1190號、第9025-1910號、第9025-1990號、第9025-8010號、第9025-8090號、第9025-9000號、第9026-1010號、第9026-1091號、第9026-1092號、第9026-2010號"},{"start":50544.042,"end":50545.703,"text":"第90262091號第90262092號第90268010號第90268020號第90268090號第902690000號第90271000號第90272000號第90273010號第90273020號第90273030號第90275000號第90278911號"},{"start":50567.717,"end":50569.559,"text":"第90278912號第90278913號第90278920號第90278930號第90278940號第90278950號第90278960號第90278970號第90278980號第90278990號第90279010號第90279090號第90281010號"},{"start":50592.52,"end":50594.301,"text":"第9028-1090號第9028-2000號第9028-9000號第9030-1000號第9030-2010號第9030-2090號第9030-3100號第9130-3200號第9030-3310號第9030-3320號第9030-3330號第9030-3340號第9030-3390號"},{"start":50617.714,"end":50618.074,"text":"第90303900號第90304000號第90308200號第90308400號第90308900號第90309010號第90309020號第90309090號"},{"start":50633.246,"end":50634.126,"text":"第9031100號第90312000號第90314110號第90314190號第90314910號第90314920號第90314991號第90314999號第90318000號"},{"start":50652.648,"end":50677.214,"text":"第九零三一九零一零號、第九零三一九零二零號、第九零三一九零九零號、第九零三二二零零號、第九零三二八一零號、第九零三二八九九零號及第九零三二九零零號等一百九十三項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第九十一章"},{"start":50677.779,"end":50703.332,"text":"第九十一章中表及其零件修正第九一零五九一一零號及第九一零五九一二零號等二項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。照審查委意見通過,第九十二章。第九十二章,樂器與其零件及附件,修正第九二零九九九五二號之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率,宣讀完畢。"},{"start":50705.663,"end":50712.746,"text":"照審查會議件通過第93章武器與彈藥及其零件與附件,修正第9301-1000號、第9302-000號、第9301-900號、第9302-000號、第9303-1000號、第9303-9010號、第9303-9090號"},{"start":50728.331,"end":50745.389,"text":"第九三零五一零零零號、第九三零五二零九零號、第九三零六二一零零號、第九三零六二九零零號、第九三零六三零九零號、第九三零六九零零號及第九三零七零零零號等十四項之第二欄稅率、修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":50751.297,"end":50772.265,"text":"第九十四章家具、寢具、入、入之池物、軟墊及類似填充家具、未列明之燈具及照明裝置、照明標誌、照明名牌及類似品、組合式建築物、修正珍珠衣宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過。第九十四章"},{"start":50773.072,"end":50795.695,"text":"第九十四章修正第九四零一一零零零號、第九四零一三一零零號、第九四零一三九零零號、第九四零一四一零零號、第九四零一四九零零號、第九四零一五二一零號、第九四零一五二九零號、第九四零一五三一零號、第九四零一五三九零號、第九四零一五九一零號、第九四零一五九九零號、第九四零一六一一零號、第九四零一六一九零號、"},{"start":50796.215,"end":50824.247,"text":"第九四零一六九一零號第九四零一六九九零號第九四零一七一零號第九四零一七九零零號第九四零一八零零號第九四零一九一零零號第九四零一九九零零號第九四零二一零一號第九四零二一零一二號第九四零二一零二一號第九四零二一零二二號第九四零二一零九一號第九四零二一零九二號第九四零二九零一號第九四零二九零一二號第九四零二九零九一號第九四零二九零九二號"},{"start":50824.807,"end":50826.307,"text":"第9403-1000號第9403-2000號第9403-3010號第9403-3090號第9403-4010號第9403-4090號第9403-5010號第9403-5090號第9403-6010號第9403-6090號第9403-7000號第9403-8210號第9403-8290號第9403-8310號"},{"start":50851.133,"end":50872.433,"text":"第九四零三八三九零號、第九四零三八九一零號、第九四零三八九二零號、第九四零三八九九零號、第九四零三九一零號及第九四零三九九零零號等五十項之第二欄稅率、修正碼少額MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。報告審查會意見通過第九十五章。"},{"start":50872.915,"end":50899.543,"text":"第九十五章玩具遊戲品與運動用品及其零件與附件修正第九五零三零零一號第九五零三零零一九號第九五零三零零二一號第九五零三零零二二號第九五零三零零二三號第九五零三零零二十號第九五零三零零二九號第九五零三零零三一號第九五零三零零三九號第九五零三零零四一號第九五零三零零四九號第九五零三零零五一號第九五零三零零五九號"},{"start":50900.163,"end":50901.784,"text":"第95030061號第95030062號第95030069號第95030071號第95030079號第95030081號第95030089號第95030091號第95030092號第95030093號第95030099號第95040000號第95043010號第95043090號第950440000號"},{"start":50925.2,"end":50944.25,"text":"第九五零四五零零零號、第九五零四九零一零號、第九五零四九零九零號、第九五零五一零零號、第九五零五九零零號及第九五零六七零一零號等三十四項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率宣讀完畢。"},{"start":50945.103,"end":50951.806,"text":"照審查會意見通過第96章。第96章雜項製品修正第9608、3040號、第96190011號、第96190012號、第96200020號及第96200061號等五項之第二欄稅率修正馬紹爾MH4用資稅率修正第96200012號及第96200040號"},{"start":50973.735,"end":50984.019,"text":"等二項之第一欄稅率宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過第97章。第97章 藝術品、珍藏品及古董修正第9701-2100號、第9701-2200號、第9701-2900號、第9701-9100號、第9701-9200號、第9701-9900號、第9702-1000號、第9702-900號、第9703-1000號、第9703-900號、"},{"start":51001.246,"end":51029.131,"text":"第九七零四零零一零號、第九七零四零零二零號、第九七零四零零三零號、第九七零四零零九零號、第九七零五一零零號、第九七零五二一零號、第九七零五二二零零號、第九七零五二九零零號、第九七零五三一零號、第九七零五三九零零號及第九七零六一零零號等21項之第二欄稅率,修正馬紹爾MH適用之稅率。宣讀完畢。照審查會意見通過,第九十八章增注一。"},{"start":51030.253,"end":51042.236,"text":"第九十八章關稅配額之貨品修正珍珠一宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過報告院會全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無依依沒有依依請宣讀經過二讀之內容"},{"start":51052.455,"end":51079.27,"text":"第一章 活動物第三章 魚類、甲殼類、軟體類及其他水產無脊椎動物第四章 乳製品、勤淡、天然蜜、未列明食用動物產品第五章 未列明動物產品第六章 活素及其他植物、求精、根及類似品、切花及裝飾用藥第七章 食用蔬菜及部分根菜與塊精菜類"},{"start":51080.09,"end":51107.686,"text":"第八章使用果實及堅果、柑橘、薯果實或甜瓜之外皮。第九章咖啡、茶、馬帶茶及香料。第十章穀類。第十一章製粉工業產品麥芽、澱粉、橘糖、麵筋。第十二章油料種子及含油脂果實、雜項、穀粒種子及果實、工業用或藥用植物、除草及飼料。第十三章"},{"start":51109.997,"end":51135.644,"text":"重漆、植物膠、樹脂、其他植物之役及萃取物第十四章編截用植物性材料未列明植物產品第十五章動植物或微生物油脂及其分解物調製使用油脂動植物蠟第十六章肉、魚類、甲殼類、軟體類、其他水產物、脊椎動物或昆蟲等之調製品第十七章"},{"start":51137.465,"end":51156.856,"text":"第18章 可可及可可製品第21章 雜項調製食品第22章 飲料、酒類及醋第23章 食品工業產製過程之殘渣及廢品、調製動物飼料第25章 鹽、硫磺、泥土及石料、石膏料、石灰及水泥"},{"start":51158.24,"end":51179.779,"text":"第26章礦石溶紮及礦灰第27章礦物燃料、礦油及其蒸餾產品含瀝青物質礦蠟第28章無機化學品、矽金屬、稀土金屬、放射性元素及其同位素質有機及無機化合物第29章有機化學產品"},{"start":51180.259,"end":51204.779,"text":"第三十章醫藥品第三十一章肥料第三十二章柔隔或染色用萃取物柔酸及其衍生物染料顏料及其他著色料漆類及凡利水、油、灰及其他灰泥、墨類第三十三章精油及樹脂狀物質香水、化妝品或罐洗用品第三十四章肥皂、有機介面活性劑"},{"start":51205.64,"end":51207.502,"text":"議員王育敏等18人擬具：第11屆第12次會議名稱：第13屆議員王育敏等18人擬具"},{"start":51224.761,"end":51226.422,"text":"第十四條條文修正草案"},{"start":51252.903,"end":51273.294,"text":"第45章軟木及軟木製品第46章草及其他邊結材料之邊結品、邊欄及柳條邊結品第47章木、薑或其他纖維素材料之紙、薑回收、廢料及碎屑、紙或紙板第48章紙及紙板、紙、薑、紙或紙板之製品"},{"start":51273.974,"end":51294.631,"text":"第49章書及新聞報紙、圖書及其他印刷工業用品、手寫稿、打字稿及設計圖樣。第50章詩、第51章羊毛、動物粗細毛、馬毛紗及其縮之物。第52章棉花、第53章其他植物、紡織纖維、紙紗及紙紗縮之物。"},{"start":51298.7,"end":51326.035,"text":"第五十六章填充用材料、簪泥、不織布、特種紗、染線、繩索、纜及其製品。第五十七章地毯及其他紡織材料附地物。第五十八章特殊縮織物、簇絨織物、花邊織物、掛毯、裝飾織物、刺繡織物。第五十九章淨字塗布、被覆或擰合織紡織物、工業用紡織物。第六十一章"},{"start":51328.035,"end":51343.961,"text":"爭執或勾爭執之衣著及服飾附屬品第六十三章其他製成紡織品、組合品、舊衣著及舊紡織品或布第六十四章斜靴、綁腿及類似品、實類物品之零件"},{"start":51344.441,"end":51363.234,"text":"第67章已整理之羽毛、羽絨及其製品、人造花、人髮製品第68章石料、膠泥、水泥、石棉、雲母或類似材料之製品第69章陶瓷產品第70章玻璃及玻璃器第71章天然珍珠或養珠、寶石或赤寶石"},{"start":51364.595,"end":51387.431,"text":"貴金屬、被覆貴金屬之金屬及其製品防守式鑄壁第七十二章鋼鐵第七十三章鋼鐵製品第七十四章銅及其製品第七十五章煉及其製品第七十六章鋁及其製品第七十八章鉛及其製品第七十九章鋅及其製品第八十章錫及其製品"},{"start":51388.231,"end":51403.436,"text":"第八十一章其他被金屬磁晶及其製器。第八十二章被金屬製工具、器具、地、器、池、叉及其零件。第八十三章雜項被金屬製品。第八十四章盒子反應器鍋爐"},{"start":51404.356,"end":51419.537,"text":"議員王育敏等18人擬具及其零件第85章電機與設備及其零件錄音機及聲音重放機電視影像聲音記錄機及重放機以及上述各物質零件及附件"},{"start":51420.868,"end":51448.818,"text":"第八十六章,鐵道或電車到機車車輛及其零件。鐵道或電車到軌道固定設備及配件與零件。各種機械是包含電動機械、交通信號設備。第八十七章,鐵道及電車到車輛以外之車輛及其零件與附件。第八十八章,航空器、太空船及其零件。第八十九章,船舶及浮動構造物。第九十章,光學照相"},{"start":51450.209,"end":51469.898,"text":"電影計量檢查精密內科或外科儀器及器具、上述品質零件及附件、定九十一章鐘錶及其零件、第九十二章樂器與其零件及附件、第九十三章武器與彈藥及其零件與附件、第九十四章僵具請具入、入之池物、軟墊"},{"start":51472.028,"end":51501.145,"text":"及類似填充家具、衛電名之燈具及照明裝置、照明標誌、照明名牌及類似品、組合式建築物第九十五章玩具、遊戲品、運動用品及其零件與附件第九十六章雜項製品第九十七章藝術品、珍藏品及古董第九十八章關稅配額之貨品宣讀完畢三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正"},{"start":51501.843,"end":51530.611,"text":"五文字修正做以下決議海關進口稅者部分稅者修正通過報告委員會現在處理討論事項第六案兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案"},{"start":51531.7,"end":51539.384,"text":"請宣讀審查報告。本院社會福利及衛生環境司法及法治委員會於113年4月29日舉行聯席會議審查本案。會議由王育敏擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬擬�"},{"start":51557.993,"end":51583.833,"text":"與會委員於聽取說明及詢答後進行逐條討論,完成本案審查。令通過附帶決議二項,原金決議併案擬具審查報告提報院會討論,本案與院會進行二讀前居交友黨團協商。因為討論本案時,由王召集委員育敏補充說明。宣讀完畢。現在請召集委員王育敏補充說明。"},{"start":51592.958,"end":51593.639,"text":"所有院會的委員們"},{"start":51609.37,"end":51631,"text":"這次有關於兒少性剝削防治條例再次的修法主要是今年的4月發生了藝人黃子嬌她持有多部的未成年性影像也引發社會高度的關注那雖然兒少性剝削防治條例在去年1月才剛完成修法"},{"start":51631.56,"end":51648.227,"text":"但是因為今年所爆發的事件讓大家看到上次的修法仍然存在有漏洞所以需要繼續的修法那因此這一次呢包括委員會就高達36案的提案"},{"start":51648.767,"end":51672.963,"text":"近乎二讀有高達19案總共有55案表示在立法院裡面委員們是高度關注整個兒少性剝削防治條例的修法也紛紛提出了自己的修法意見跟看法而這個議題我們也看到了在2020年兒少性剝削犯罪的案件數有1239件2022年已經上升到1628件"},{"start":51677.146,"end":51690.696,"text":"所以而少性剝削的犯罪案件是在持續上升當中,修法是在必行。因此本席擔任衛環委員會的召委就立刻召集排案。"},{"start":51691.226,"end":51702.755,"text":"在4月29日就在衛文環委員會進行了尋答跟開始逐條的審查。5月1日送出了委員會並歷經了6月5日、6月19日兩次的黨團協商。"},{"start":51707.999,"end":51723.253,"text":"終於彙整了各方的意見把額紹性剝削防制條例的草案送進院會即將完成二、三讀而這次我們整個的修法有幾個非常重要的重點第一個包括"},{"start":51724.707,"end":51739.478,"text":"我們賦予主管機關在24小時之內要主動下架相關的兒少性影像的影片並可以主動的去封網禁止接取這個目的就是要及時阻止"},{"start":51739.978,"end":51757.649,"text":"而紹性剝削的影像在持續的散佈對而紹造成傷害這是在修法的第一個大的重點第二個重點呢也將納入無故重置持有支付對價關攬犯罪的樣態把它納入這個處罰的樣態犯罪的樣態"},{"start":51763.679,"end":51786.572,"text":"並且加重罰則。所以這一次包括像你如果是支付對價關懶這樣一個犯罪的話要加重相關的刑法要處以一年以上、七年以下的有期徒刑並可以十萬以上、一百萬以下的罰金這個也是社會各界希望可以加重處罰"},{"start":51788.553,"end":51807.881,"text":"這次也特別完成了相關的修法第三點是我們賦予主管機關應該要有更明確的權責跟任務也增設了被害人性影像數位鑑識資料庫第四點是我們去加強了法務及警政主管機關要加強訓練專業人員"},{"start":51810.612,"end":51839.214,"text":"那提升他們的敏感度並可以未來再查辦類似的案件可以更有效的來處理那第五點呢是本期這邊特別重視的應該要去強化高中以下我們的這個兒少本身對於這個兒少性剝削議題的認識並懂得進一步保護自己所以呢學校他應該每學期至少要安排兩小時的課程"},{"start":51840.368,"end":51864.333,"text":"給孩子充分的、完整的教育讓他們提高自我保護的意識同時各級學校跟幼兒園的教職員工、教保人員也要實施相關的教育跟宣導我們希望透過這樣子從前端的預防宣導教育給孩子一個更好的認知然後也給他們更好的環境"},{"start":51865.066,"end":51891.172,"text":"那這一次的整個修法的過程我要特別感謝立法院不分朝野委員大家共同的提案跟參與討論也要特別謝謝我們的主管機關衛福部、法務部、警政署還有司法院在修法過程當中共同的參與更要謝謝我們衛環委員會裡面辛苦的工作同仁在多次的會議當中包括今天也是條登業戰"},{"start":51892.152,"end":51920.684,"text":"跟著大家一起要把這個修法的工作完成那本期希望透過這一次我在衛環委員會擔任召委然後把兒少性剝削防治條例可以順利的整合各方的版本跟意見今天送到院會來即將完成二、三讀那我們的目的只有一個希望可以未來去減少兒少性剝削案件的發生保護兒少不要被侵害以上謝謝"},{"start":51926.141,"end":51935.666,"text":"本案經審查會議、決議需交由黨團協商。另外,委員蔡依瑜等、委員吳麗華等、委員羅志強等16人、委員"},{"start":51940.476,"end":51962.866,"text":"張宏祿等分別提案分今第一會期第13次第14次會議決定盡夫二讀與相關提案併案協商委員吳佩義等委員吳思堯等委員黃秀芳等委員林淑芬等委員蔡其昌等委員林楚英等委員賴瑞榮等"},{"start":51963.533,"end":51984.489,"text":"委員陳秀寶等分別提案,經第一會期第十四次會議決定,致委員會抽出淨富二讀與相關提案併案協商。委員張家俊等、委員李燕秀等、委員羅廷煒等、委員翁曉琳等、委員"},{"start":51985.814,"end":52009.787,"text":"侯孟楷等分別提案,經第一會期第十二次會議決定,近乎二讀,由國民黨黨團負責召集協商。台灣民眾黨黨團提案,經第一會期第十二次會議決定,近乎二讀,由台灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商。報告院會本案現已完成協商,請宣讀協商結論。"},{"start":52013.072,"end":52032.977,"text":"立法院黨團協商結論時間113年6月5日星期三中午12時30分113年6月19日星期三上午9時30分地點群選合802、801會議室協商主題兒童及少年性剝削防治條例部分條文修正草案協商結論一"},{"start":52034.677,"end":52038.779,"text":"協商通過條文第2條、第3條、第5條、第8條、第36條、第39條、第43條、第44條、第51條、第53條、第55條如附件。二、維持現行條文第32條至第35條、第38條、第40條、第45條。三、不予增訂。"},{"start":52053.726,"end":52072.425,"text":"委員廖偉祥等17人提案第41條之一委員黃孟楷等19人提案第45條之二委員李燕秀等16人提案第51條之二及第51條之三台灣民眾黨黨團提案第四章之一章名及第52條之二至第52條之六"},{"start":52076.389,"end":52088.827,"text":"四、其餘經照審查會審查結果通過五、條次及援引條次授權醫事人員調整六、立法說明若有需要補充或調整部分授權行政機關處理"},{"start":52090.282,"end":52109.199,"text":"七、正列附帶決議事項如附見。八、檢護本案立法說明已分。協商主持人王育敏、協商代表傅坤祺、黃孟凱、林思銘、蘇清泉、陳金威、廖偉翔、翁曉琳、徐宇貞、徐曉新、涂全吉、羅志強、萬美玲、黃建豪、"},{"start":52110.16,"end":52135.16,"text":"王洪威、柯思恩、羅廷偉、黃建平、李彥秀、賴思寶、張家俊、葛如君、盧憲宜、邱振軍、柯建民、吳思瑤、莊瑞雄、林月琴、黃秀芳、黃振旭、劉建國、范雲、黃捷、蔡玉瑜、林一錦、陳廷輝、郭育琴、沈伯陽、陳培宇、何新淳、張雅玲、林淑芬、黃國昌、黃珊珊、吳春成、陳昭芝、宣讀完畢。"},{"start":52138.022,"end":52152.058,"text":"請問院會對以上協商結論有異議、無異議本案諸條討論時,盡依協商結論處理。兒童及少年性剝削防治條例,請宣讀第二條。"},{"start":52154.534,"end":52171.919,"text":"第二條本條例所稱兒童或少年性剝削指下的行為之一者一、使兒童或少年為有對價之性交貨猥褻行為二、利用兒童或少年為性交貨猥褻之行為以工人關攬三、拍攝、製造、重製、持有、散布、播送"},{"start":52172.559,"end":52199.594,"text":"交付公然陳列、販賣或支付兌價關攬兒童或少年之性影像與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品。四、使兒童或少年坐台陪酒或涉及涉情之伴遊、伴唱、伴舞或其他類似行為本條例所稱被害人指遭受性剝削或疑似遭受性剝削之兒童或少年宣讀完畢。"},{"start":52200.936,"end":52224.049,"text":"照協商條文通過第三條第三條本條例所稱主管機關在中央為衛生福利部在直轄市為直轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府主管機關因獨立編列預算並致專職人員辦理兒童及少年腺剝削防治業務本條例所定事項主管機關及目的事業主管機關全則事項如下"},{"start":52224.549,"end":52239.051,"text":"一、主管機關兒童及少年性剝削防治政策規劃推動監督及其他相關事宜被害人保護、輔助、行政採取、行為人輔助、輔導、教育、定期公布兒童及少年性剝削相關統計資料"},{"start":52240.413,"end":52260.598,"text":"及其他相關事宜。二、衛生主管機關被害人驗傷採證行為人身心治療及其他相關事宜。三、教育主管機關各級學校幼兒園兒童及少年性剝削防制教育被害人就學權益之維護中途學校及其他相關事宜。"},{"start":52261.138,"end":52283.864,"text":"四、勞動主管機關、被害人職業訓練、就業服務及其他相關事宜五、警政主管機關、兒童及少年性剝削犯罪預防及調查、資料統計、行為人登記、報導、查訪、查閱及其他相關事宜六、法務主管機關、兒童及少年性剝削犯罪偵查、矯正及其他相關事宜"},{"start":52285.244,"end":52311.521,"text":"七、移民主管機關臺灣地區無戶及國民、外國人、無國及人民、大陸地區人民、香港或澳門地區居民因遭受兒童及少年性剝削至於其停留或拘留者協助維護其在臺灣地區停留或拘留權益並配合協助辦理後續送返事宜加害人為臺灣地區無戶及國民、外國人、大陸地區人民、香港或澳門居民者"},{"start":52311.921,"end":52331.852,"text":"配合協助辦理後續遣返及其他相關事宜八、文化主管機關注版品違反本條例規定之處理及其他相關事宜九、通訊傳播主管機關傳播電視及其他由該機關依法管理之媒體違反本條例規定之處理及其他相關事宜"},{"start":52332.492,"end":52358.884,"text":"十、數位發展主管機關兒童或少年性影像犯罪防治情勢之技術支援相關事宜十一、經濟主管機關特定行業營業場所違反本條例規定之處理及其他相關事宜十二、戶政主管機關提供被害人身份戶籍資料及其他相關事宜十三、其他兒童及少年性剝削及性影像防治措施由相關目的事業主管機關依其全責辦理"},{"start":52360.245,"end":52377.349,"text":"主管機關應會同前向相關機關定期公佈並檢討教育、宣導、救援及保護、加害者處罰、安置及服務等工作成效。主管機關應邀集相關學者或專家、民間相關機構、團體代表及目的事業主管機關代表協調、研究、審議、諮詢"},{"start":52381.806,"end":52396.54,"text":"及推動兒童及少年性剝削防治政策其中學者、專家及民間相關機構、團體代表不得少於二分之一任意性別不得少於三分之一為協助被害人處理性影像限制瀏覽或移除"},{"start":52397.04,"end":52420.468,"text":"中央主管機關得諮詢或委託民間團體成立性影像處理中心並涉專職人員辦理下列事項一、受理性影像申訴諮詢查查二、通知網際網路平台提供者網際網路應用服務提供者及網際網路接取服務提供者以下並稱網路業者限制瀏覽或移除"},{"start":52421.548,"end":52449.807,"text":"兒童或少年之性隱相。三、其他性隱相防治相關業務。中央主管機關得運用科技技術方式與網路主動巡查涉兒童或少年性隱相犯罪嫌疑情勢。數位發展主管機關依法提供相關技術協助。網路業者對於前項巡查不得拒絕、妨礙或規避。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第四條"},{"start":52451.141,"end":52466.839,"text":"第四條高級中等以下學校每學期應辦理兒童及少年性剝削防治教育課程至少二小時。前項兒童及少年性剝削教育課程內容如下一、信不得作為交易對象之宣導"},{"start":52467.6,"end":52490.715,"text":"二、性剝削犯罪之認識三、遭受性剝削之處境四、網路安全及正確使用網路之知識五、其他有關性剝削防治事項各級學校、幼兒園應對教職員工及教保相關人員實施兒童及少年性剝削防治教育及聲導宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第五條"},{"start":52491.738,"end":52509.606,"text":"第五條,中央法務主管機關及中央警政主管機關應分別指定所屬機關、專責指揮督導各地方檢察署、警察機關辦理有關本條例犯罪偵查工作。各地方檢察署、警察機關應指定經專業訓練之專責人員辦理本條例事件。"},{"start":52513.647,"end":52541.026,"text":"為辦理本條例第二條第一項第三款性剝削行為之犯罪偵查警察機關應指定或設立專責單位建立被害人性影像數位鑑識資料庫。前項資料庫之內容儲存、管理及使用之辦法由中央警政主管機關定之。中央警政主管機關、中央法務主管機關及司法院應適時辦理兒童及少年性剝削防制教育訓練以充實調查、偵查或審理"},{"start":52543.628,"end":52557.625,"text":"兒童及少年性剝削案件之司法檢察官、司法檢察事務官、檢察官或法官之辦案專業素養。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第八條"},{"start":52558.68,"end":52573.739,"text":"第八條網路業者透過主管機關或其他機關之有第四章犯罪嫌疑前事應於二十四小時內限制瀏覽或移除與第四章犯罪有關之網頁資料前項犯罪網頁資料與嫌疑人之個人資料"},{"start":52574.139,"end":52600.378,"text":"及網路使用記錄資料應保留180日以提供司法及檢查機關調查直轄市縣市主管機關得協助被害人於偵查中向檢察官審理中向法院請求重置扣案之被害人性影像第一項之網路業者於技術可行下應依直轄市縣市主管機關通知比對移除或下架被害人之性影像"},{"start":52601.86,"end":52630.602,"text":"性影像處理中心得知網頁資料涉有兒童或少年之性影像犯罪嫌疑情勢者應通知網路業者、警察機關及中央主管機關。前項通知應記載下列事項一、主與辨識犯罪嫌疑情勢之網站名稱與網址及性影像之網址。二、行為人網路平台帳號或網際網路協定位置。三、通知之國家機關聯絡人姓名、電話及電子郵件。"},{"start":52631.423,"end":52656.315,"text":"中央主管機關收受第四項通知後應及令網路業者依第一項規定限制瀏覽或移除與犯罪有關之網頁資料前項處分內容應記載下列事項依第五項各款事項二、網路業者網站名稱、網址、網際網路協定位置或其他組織辨別指涉之該網路業者特徵"},{"start":52657.455,"end":52686.539,"text":"三、主旨、事實、理由及其法令依據四、有付款者付款之內容五、處分機關及其首長署名簽章該機關有代理人或受任人者需同時於其下簽名但以自動機器做成之大量行政處分得不經署名以蓋章為之。六、發文字號及年月日。七、表明其為行政處分之意旨及不符行政處分之救濟方法期間及其受理機關。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":52688.43,"end":52691.927,"text":"照協商條文通過徵訂第八條之一"},{"start":52692.54,"end":52721.468,"text":"第八條至一主管機關對網路業者依前條及第47條作成之行政處分得以電子文件利用網際網路之方式傳送至網路業者公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件電子表單以為送達前項電子文件由主管機關傳送至網際網路業者公開揭示指定或網際網域註冊之電子郵件電子表單後以日依工作日發生"},{"start":52722.509,"end":52737.988,"text":"發生依法送達通知或使其知悉之效力但有下列情形之一者不在此現。一、電子文件已傳送而未進入網路業者公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件、電子表單。二、電子文件已進入"},{"start":52738.969,"end":52761.074,"text":"網路業者公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件、電子表單後依工作日。網路業者示明其無法閱讀。三、網路業者證明電子文件於較早或較晚之時間進入其公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件、電子表單。前項但書第一項情形有爭議時由主管機關證明。"},{"start":52762.774,"end":52787.762,"text":"主管機關不能證明者應令以適當之方式重新送達、通知或使其知悉第二項但書第二款情形主管機關應令以適當之方式重新送達、通知或使其知悉第二項但書第三款情形依網路業者證明較早或較晚之時點發生依法送達、通知或使其知悉之效力"},{"start":52789.008,"end":52813.243,"text":"有下列情形之一者主管機關得為限制接取一、無從知悉網路業者聯絡資訊至無法為第一項之送達二、任網頁資料所涉犯罪嫌疑情節重大為避免犯罪危害擴大或避免急迫危險而有及時處置之必要時。三、網路業者經限制接取後"},{"start":52814.224,"end":52838.39,"text":"更換網域名稱或其他方法已有第四章犯罪嫌疑情勢。主管機關為執行前上級第47條之限制接取。數位發展主管機關、教育主管機關、通訊傳播主管機關、法務主管機關、警政主管機關、網際網路接取服務提供者因依法協助執行。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":52842.745,"end":52859.655,"text":"照審查會條文通過第十五條維持現行條文第二十八條父母養父母或監護人對未滿18歲之子女、養子女或受監護人犯"},{"start":52862.028,"end":52883.975,"text":"第32條至第38條、第39條第二項、第4項之罪者、被害人、檢察官、被害人最近遵親屬直轄市縣市主管機關、兒童及少年福利機構或其他利害關係人,得向法院申請停止其行使負擔父母對於被害人之權利義務,另行選定監護人。"},{"start":52886.417,"end":52909.718,"text":"對於養父母或得請求法院宣告終止其收養關係法院依前項規定選定或改定監護人時得指定直轄市縣市主管機關、兒童及少年福利機構或其他適當之人為被害人之監護人並得指定監護方法命其父母、原監護人或其他撫養義務人交父子女"},{"start":52910.719,"end":52927.911,"text":"而支付選定或改定監護人相當之撫養費用及報酬,命為其他必要處分或訂定必要事項,前項裁定得為執行名義,宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過。"},{"start":52929.454,"end":52937,"text":"第30條維持現行條文第31條維持現行條文第32條維持現行條文第33條維持現行條文第34條維持現行條文第35條維持現行條文第36條"},{"start":52947.267,"end":52964.029,"text":"第36條拍攝製造無誤重製兒童或少年之性影像與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品處一年以上、七年以下有期徒刑得併科新台幣十萬元以上、一百萬元以下罰金"},{"start":52964.77,"end":52984.501,"text":"招募、引誘、容留、媒介、協助或以他法使兒童或少年被拍攝、自行拍攝、製造、無故重置性影像與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品處3年以上、10年以下有期徒刑,得併科新台幣300萬元以下罰金。"},{"start":52987.423,"end":53007.677,"text":"以強暴、威迫、妖技、詐術、催眠術或其他違反本人意願之方法,使兒童或少年被拍攝、自行拍攝、製造、無故重置性影像與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品者,除7年以上有其徒刑的病科"},{"start":53008.698,"end":53029.912,"text":"新台幣五百萬元以上罰金意圖營利犯前三項之罪者依各該條項之規定加重其刑至二分之一前四項之未遂犯罰之第一項至第四項之附著物、圖畫及物品不問屬於犯罪行為人與否莫收之"},{"start":53031.533,"end":53053.646,"text":"拍攝、製造無故重製兒童或少年之性影像與性相關額刻彎上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品之工具或設備,不問屬於犯罪行為人與否,莫收之,但屬於被害人者不在此限。宣讀完畢。到協商條文通過第38條維持現行條文第39條"},{"start":53058.015,"end":53085.889,"text":"第39條,無正當理由支付對價而持有兒童或少年之性以上,處一年以上、七年以下有期徒刑,得併科新台幣10萬元以上、100萬元以下罰金。無正當理由持有兒童或少年之性以上,處三年以下有期徒刑、居易或得併科新台幣6萬元以上、60萬元以下罰金。無正當理由持有兒童或少年或性相關"},{"start":53087.089,"end":53107.809,"text":"而客觀上足以引起信譽或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品,第一次被查獲者處心台幣一萬元以上十萬元以下罰還,並得令其接受二小時以上十小時以下之輔導教育,其附著物、圖畫及物品,不問屬於此有人與否,莫入之。"},{"start":53108.57,"end":53137.118,"text":"無正當理由持有兒童或少年與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品第二次以上被查獲者處心台幣二萬元以上、二十萬元以下罰金。查獲之第一項、第二項及第四項之附著物、圖畫及物品不問屬於犯罪行為人與否莫收之。宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過委員林一錦等提案"},{"start":53137.83,"end":53151.941,"text":"第39條之一不予徵訂第40條維持現行條文委員范雲等提案第40條之一委員廖偉祥等提案第41條之一均不予徵訂第43條"},{"start":53154.721,"end":53181.869,"text":"第43條父母對其子女犯本條例之罪應自白或自首而查獲第32條至第38條、第39條第一項、第二項、第四項之犯罪者減輕或免除其刑。犯第31條之罪自白或自首應而查獲第32條至第38條、第39條第一項、第二項、第四項之犯罪者減輕或免除其刑。宣讀完畢"},{"start":53182.952,"end":53201.193,"text":"照協商條文通過第44條第44條支付對價關攬兒童或少年為性交或猥褻之行為或其性影響者處一年以上七年以下有期徒刑得併科新台幣十萬元以上一百萬元以下罰金宣讀完畢"},{"start":53201.994,"end":53219.026,"text":"照協商條文通過委員張雅琳等提案第44條之一不予增訂第45條維持現行條文委員侯孟楷等提案第45條之二不予增訂第47條"},{"start":53220.868,"end":53245.685,"text":"第47條有下列情形之一而無爭當理由者由主管機關處新台幣6萬元以上、60萬元以下罰還並令其限其改善,藉其為改善者得按次處罰並得令其限制接取一、違反第三條第七項規定拒絕妨礙或規避二、違反第八條第一項規定為先行限制瀏覽移除"},{"start":53247.066,"end":53267.948,"text":"三、違反第八條第二項規定未保留資料180日或未將資料提供司法或警察機關調查。宣讀完畢。照審查會條文通過第五十條維持現行條文。第五十一條"},{"start":53269.315,"end":53281.668,"text":"第五十一條犯第三十六條第三項之罪經判決有罪確定者準用性侵害犯罪防治法第三十一條第三十三條至第三十五條第四十二條"},{"start":53282.25,"end":53304.143,"text":"第43條、第50條及第51條規定,犯第31條第二項、第36條第一項、第38條第一項、第39條第一項、第二項、第4項或第44條之罪,經判決有罪或還起訴處分確定者,直轄市縣市主管機關應對其實施8小時以上、50小時以下之輔導教育。"},{"start":53305.143,"end":53305.584,"text":"照協商條文通過"},{"start":53334.42,"end":53362.887,"text":"委員黃健豪等、委員王宏威等、委員林俊憲等、委員李燕秀等分別提案第五十一條之一、委員李燕秀等提案第五十一條之二、第五十一條之三均不予增訂台灣民眾黨黨團提案第四章之一及第五十二條之二至第五十二條之六均不予增訂第五十三條"},{"start":53363.837,"end":53384.435,"text":"第五十三條第三十九條第三項及第五十一條第二項輔導教育之對象方式內容及其他應遵循事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同法務主管機關定之宣讀完畢。照協商條文通過第五十三條之一維持現行條文第五十五條"},{"start":53385.273,"end":53413.04,"text":"第五十五條本條例施行日期由行政院定之本條例中華民國112年1月10日修正之條文除第22條施行日期由行政院定之外至公佈日施行本條例與中華民國113年7月12日修正之條文除第3條、第8條、第8條之一及第47條施行日期由行政院定之外至公佈日施行宣讀完畢"},{"start":53413.925,"end":53427.816,"text":"照協商條文通過報院會全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有依依沒有依依請宣讀經過二讀之條文"},{"start":53430.27,"end":53451.93,"text":"第二條本條例所稱兒童或少年性剝削指下列行為之一者一、使兒童或少年為有對價之性交或猥褻行為二、利用兒童或少年為性交或猥褻之行為以工人關攬三、拍攝、製造、重置、持有、散布、播送、交付、公然陳列、販賣或支付對價關攬"},{"start":53454.774,"end":53477.132,"text":"兒童或少年之性癮上與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品。四、使兒童或少年坐臺陪酒或涉及涉情之半遊、半唱、半舞或其他類似行為。本條例所稱被害人,指遭受性剝削或疑似遭受性剝削之兒童或少年。"},{"start":53478.683,"end":53493.224,"text":"第三條本條例所稱主案機關在中央為衛生福利部在直轄市為直轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府主案機關因獨立編列預算並致專職人員辦理兒童及少年性剝削防治業務"},{"start":53494.145,"end":53515.711,"text":"本條例所定事項主管機關及目的事業主管機關全責事項如下一、主管機關兒童及少年性剝削防治政策規劃推動監督及其他相關事宜被害人保護輔助行政採取行為人輔導教育定期公佈兒童及少年性剝削相關統計資料及其他相關事宜二、衛生主管機關"},{"start":53516.511,"end":53543.932,"text":"被害人驗傷、採證、行為人身心治療及其他相關事宜。三、教育主管機關各級學校、幼兒園、兒童及少年性剝削防治教育、被害人就學權益之維護、中途學校及其他相關事宜。四、勞動主管機關被害人職業訓練、就業服務及其他相關事宜。五、行政主管機關兒童及少年性剝削犯罪預防及調查、資料統計、行為人登記報導、查訪、查閱及其他相關事宜。"},{"start":53544.853,"end":53561.699,"text":"六、法務主管機關兒童及少年性剝削犯罪偵查矯正及其他相關事宜。七、移民主管機關臺灣地區無戶及國民外國人無國及人民大陸地區人民、香港或澳門居民應遭受兒童及少年性剝削"},{"start":53562.299,"end":53572.853,"text":"至於其停留或拘留者協助維護其在臺灣地區停留或拘留權益並配合協助辦理後續送返事宜加害人為臺灣為臺灣地區無戶及國民外國人大陸地區人民"},{"start":53577.879,"end":53590.592,"text":"香港或澳門居民者配合協助辦理後續遣返及其他相關事宜。八、文化主管機關出版品違反本條例規定之處理及其他相關事宜。九、通訊傳播主管機關傳播、廣播、電視及其他"},{"start":53593.795,"end":53620.755,"text":"由該機關依法管理之媒體違反本條例規定之處理及其他相關事宜四、數位發展主管機關兒童或少年性影響犯罪防治情勢之技術支援相關事宜十一、經濟主管機關特定行業營業場所違反本條例規定之處理及其他相關事宜十二、戶政主管機關提供被害人身份戶籍資料及其他相關事宜十三、其他兒童及少年性剝削"},{"start":53621.596,"end":53626.063,"text":"急性影響防制措施由相關目的事業主管機關依其全責辦理。"},{"start":53627.785,"end":53655.354,"text":"主管機關應會同前項相關機關定期公佈並檢討教育、宣導救援及保護加害者處罰、安置及服務等工作成效。主管機關應邀集相關學者或專家、民間相關機構、團體代表及目的事業主管機關代表協調研究、審議、諮詢及推動兒童及少年腺剝削防治政策。其中學者、專家及民間相關機構、團體代表不得少於二分之一、任意性別不得少於三分之一。"},{"start":53656.174,"end":53672.3,"text":"為協助被害人處理性影像限制瀏覽或移除中央局管機關得自行或委託民間團體成立性影像處理中心並設專職人員辦理下列事項一、受理性影像申訴諮詢查查二、通知網際網路平台提供者"},{"start":53673.34,"end":53699.35,"text":"網際網路應用服務提供者及網際網路接取服務提供者以下並稱網路業者限制瀏覽或移除兒童或少年之性影像。netes、其他性影像防制相關業務中央主管機關得運用科技技術方式與網路主動巡查涉兒童或少年性影像犯罪嫌疑情勢作為發展主管機關依法提供相關技術協助。網路業者對於前項巡查不得拒絕、妨礙或規避。"},{"start":53702.659,"end":53729.712,"text":"第四條高級中等以下學校每學期應辦理兒童及少年性剝削防治教育課程至少二小時。前項兒童及少年性剝削教育課程內容如下一、信不得作為交易對象之宣導。二、性剝削犯罪之認識。三、遭受性剝削之處境。四、網路安全及正確使用網路之知識。五、其他有關性剝削防治事項。各級學校幼兒園應對教職員工及教保相關人員實施"},{"start":53731.773,"end":53741.819,"text":"兒童及少年性剝削防治教育及宣導第五條中央法務主管機關及中央警政主管機關應分別指定所處機關專責指揮督導各地方"},{"start":53745.331,"end":53774.18,"text":"檢察署、警察機關辦理有關本條例犯罪偵查工作各地方檢察署、警察機關應指定專業訓練之專責人員辦理本條例事件為辦理本條例第二條第一項第三款性剝削行為之犯罪偵查警察機關應指定或設立專責單位建立被害人性引上數位鑑識資料庫前項資料庫之內容儲存、管理及使用之辦法由中央警政主管機關定之"},{"start":53774.76,"end":53794.025,"text":"中央警政主管機關、中央法務主管機關及司法院應適時辦理兒童及少年性剝削防治教育訓練以充實調查、偵查或審理兒童及少年性剝削案件之司法警察、司法檢察官、檢察事務官、檢察官或法官之辦案專業素養。"},{"start":53796.243,"end":53812.718,"text":"第八條網路業者透過主管機關或其他機關只有第四章犯罪嫌疑情勢應24小時內限制瀏覽或移除與第四章犯罪有關之網頁資料。檢查犯罪網頁資料與嫌疑人之個人資料"},{"start":53813.118,"end":53835.528,"text":"及網絡使用記錄資料應保留180日以提供司法及檢察機關調查直轄市縣市主管機關得協助被害人於偵查中向檢察官審理中向法院請求重置扣案之被害人性影像第一項之網絡業者與技術可行下應依直轄市縣市主管機關通知比對移除或下架被害人之性影像"},{"start":53836.877,"end":53852.394,"text":"性影像處理中心得知網頁資料設有兒童或少年之性影像犯罪嫌疑情勢者應通知網路業者、檢察機關及中央主管機關。前項通知應記載下列事項一、足以辨識犯罪嫌疑情勢之網站名稱"},{"start":53853.095,"end":53870.03,"text":"於網址及信領項之網址二、行為人網路平台帳號或網際網路協定位置三、通知國家機關聯絡人姓名、電話及電子郵件中央主管機關收受地市項通知後應及令網路業者依第1項規定"},{"start":53872.011,"end":53898.673,"text":"縣市瀏覽會議處與犯罪有關之網頁資料前項處分內容應記載下列事項一、第五項各款情勢二、網路業者網站名稱、網址、網際網路協定位置或其他組織辨識指涉之該網路業者特徵三、主旨、事實、理由及其法令依據四、有付款者付款之內容五、處分機關及其首長署名"},{"start":53900.266,"end":53920.651,"text":"蓋章該機關有代理人或受任者須同時與其下簽名但以自動機器做成之大量行政處分得不經署名以蓋章為之六、發文字號及年月日其表明其為行政處分之意旨及不符行政處分之救濟方法期間及其受理機關。"},{"start":53922.833,"end":53938.455,"text":"第八條指一主管機關對網路業者依前條及第47條作成之行政處分得以電子文件利用網際網路之方式傳送至網路業者公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件、電子表達"},{"start":53939.136,"end":53959.691,"text":"以為送達,前項電子文件由主管機關傳送至網路業者公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件電子表單後以一工作日發生依法送達通知或實施之效力但有下列情形指一者不在此現依電子文件已傳送而未"},{"start":53960.952,"end":53981.085,"text":"進入網路業者公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件、電子表單。二、電子文件已進入網路業者公開揭示指定或網域註冊之電子郵件、電子表單後一公作日。網路業者是明其無法閱讀。三、網路業者證明電子文件於較早或較晚之時"},{"start":53982.968,"end":53998.79,"text":"進入其公開揭示、指定或往獄注冊之電子郵件、電子表單。前項單書第一款情形有爭議時由主管機關證明。主管機關不能證明者因另以適當之方式重新送達、送通知或使其窒息。"},{"start":53999.33,"end":54019.564,"text":"第二項但書第二款情形主管機關應另以適當之方式重新送達通知或使其知悉第二項但書第三款情形依網路業者證明較早或較晚之時點發生依法送達通知或使其知悉之效力有下例情形之一者主管機關得為限制接取"},{"start":54020.124,"end":54043.904,"text":"一、無從知悉網路業者聯絡資訊至無法為第一項之送答。二、任網頁資料所涉犯罪嫌疑警戒重大為避免犯罪危害擴大或避免急迫危險而有及時處置之必要時。三、網路業者經限制接取時更換網域名稱或其他方法以有第四章犯罪嫌疑請示。"},{"start":54044.705,"end":54060.959,"text":"主管機關為執行前項及第47條之限制接取數位發展主管機關、教育主管機關、通訊傳播主管機關、法務主管機關、警政主管機關、網際網路接取服務提供者應依法協助執行。"},{"start":54063.103,"end":54090.208,"text":"第二十八條父母養父母或監護人對未滿18歲之子女養子女或受監護人犯第三十二條至第三十八條第三十九條第二項第四項之罪者被害人檢察官被害人最近遵親屬直轄市縣市主管機關兒童及少年福利機構或其他利害官及人得向法院申請停止其行使負擔父母或對其"},{"start":54091.328,"end":54116.138,"text":"對於被害人之權利義務另行選定監護人對養父母並得請求法院宣告終止其收養關係法院依前項規定選定或改定監護人時得指定直轄市縣市主管機關兒童及少年福利機構或其他適當之人為被害人之監護人並得指定監護方法命其父母、原監護人或其他撫養義務人交付子女"},{"start":54116.778,"end":54127.422,"text":"支付選定或改定監護人相當之撫養費用及報酬,命為其他必要處分或訂定必要事項,前項裁定得為執行民意。"},{"start":54129.52,"end":54147.516,"text":"第36條拍攝製造無故蟲子兒童或少年之性影像與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品除一年以上、七年以下有其圖形得併科新台幣十萬元以上、一百萬元以下罰金"},{"start":54148.317,"end":54172.512,"text":"招募、引誘、容留、媒介、協助或以他法使兒童或少年被拍攝、自行拍攝、製造、無故重置性影像與性相關的客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品處三年以上、十年以下有其徒刑、得病科、新台幣三百萬元以上罰金以強暴、圍迫、要計、詐欺"},{"start":54174.153,"end":54177.876,"text":"議員王育敏等19時至11時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時至12時"},{"start":54198.912,"end":54202.317,"text":"條項之規定加重其刑至二分之一。前四項之為稅犯罰之。"},{"start":54205.851,"end":54228.497,"text":"第一項至第四項之附著物、圖畫及物品,不問屬於犯罪行為人與否,莫收之。拍攝、製造、無故重製兒童或少年之性影像與性相關而客觀上足以引起性欲或羞恥之圖畫與因或其他物品之工具或設備,不問屬於犯罪行為人與否,莫收之,但屬於被害人者,不在此限。"},{"start":54230.014,"end":54249.6,"text":"第39條無正當理由支付對價而持有兒童或少年之性以上,處一年以上、七年以下有期徒刑,得併科新台幣十萬元以上、一百萬元以下罰金。無正當理由持有兒童或少年之性以上,處三年以下有期徒刑,具役得併科新台幣六萬元以上、六十萬元以下罰金。"},{"start":54250.06,"end":54265.608,"text":"無正當理由持有兒童或少年與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品第一次被查獲者處心臺幣一萬元以上十萬元以下罰還並得令其接受二小時以上十小時以下之輔導教育"},{"start":54267.597,"end":54293.716,"text":"其附著物、圖畫或物品及物品,不問屬於持有人與否,莫入之。無正當理由持有兒童或少年與性相關而客觀上,足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫與因或其他物品第二次以上被查獲者,處新台幣二萬元以上、二十萬元以上罰金。查獲之第一項、第二項及第四項之附著物、圖畫及物品,不問屬於犯罪行為人與否,莫收之。"},{"start":54296.075,"end":54321.532,"text":"第43條父母對其子女犯本條例之罪因自白或自首而查獲第32條至第38條第39條第一項、第二項、第四項之犯罪者減輕或免除其刑犯第31條之罪自白或自首因而查獲第32條至第38條第39條第一項、第二項、第四項之犯罪者減輕或免除其刑"},{"start":54323.12,"end":54338.401,"text":"第44條支付兌價關攬兒童或少年為性交或猥褻之行為或其性影響者,除一年以上、七年以下有期徒刑,得併科新台幣十萬元以上、一百萬元以下罰金。"},{"start":54341.638,"end":54359.884,"text":"第47條有下列情形之一而無證當理由者由主管機關處新台幣6萬元以上60萬元以下罰還並利其限其改善。藉其為改善者得按次處罰並得令其限制接取。依違反第三條第七項規定拒絕妨礙或規避"},{"start":54361.385,"end":54383.805,"text":"二、違反第八條第一項規定為先行限制瀏覽移除。三、違反第八條第二項規定為保留資料180日或為將資料提供司法或警察機關調查。第五十一條,犯第36條第三項之罪,經判決有罪確定者,準用性侵害犯罪防治法第31條、第33條及制第35條,"},{"start":54386.86,"end":54411.509,"text":"第42條、第43條、第50條及第51條規定,犯第31條第二項、第36條第一項、第38條第一項、第39條第一項、第二項、第4項或第44條之罪,經判決有罪或還起訴處分確定者。此下是縣市主管機關應對其實施8小時以上、50小時以下之輔導教育,前向輔導教育之執行,主管機關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Tahovecahe等提案：","案由：本院委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人，鑒於現今網路傳播發達，國內外均爆發如韓國N號房、創意私房等網路平台犯罪事件，據國家人權委員會調查數據顯示，兒少性剝削案件超過八成與性私密影像相關，不肖份子或犯罪集團以重製、支付對價或觀覽的方式傳播，嚴重侵害兒少權益，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」，修正犯罪樣態並提高刑度。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、為即時保護及協助兒少被害者，授權網際網路各類服務提供者，應於接獲主管機關、警察機關或其他機關通知後，儘速移除被散布之性剝削影像等資訊；且情節重大之犯罪網頁，授權主管機關可將其限制接取。（修正條文第八條）","二、為有效嚇阻犯行，針對拍攝、製造兒少為性交或猥褻行為之影像或物品者，提高刑度，以遏止兒少性剝削之犯罪。（修正條文第三十六條）","三、散布及販賣兒少性剝削影像行為屬傷害兒少之重大犯罪乃國際立法趨勢，為反映犯罪嚴重性及遏止犯行，爰加重本條刑度，並納入重製之犯罪樣態，且針對支付對價觀覽或購買、散布被害人個資者，加重其刑。（修正條文第三十八條、第三十九條）","四、無正當理由持有兒少性剝削影像者，亦屬兒少性剝削過程中的一環，故無論被查獲之次數為何，皆應受相等處罰，並提高罰則。（修正條文第四十四條）","五、現行法規並未規範於線上觀覽兒少性影像或直播之行為，爰增訂條文。（增訂條文第四十四條之一）","六、配合第三十九條、第四十四條之一調整項次和文字；對兒少為犯罪之行為者，主管機關得於必要時公布其姓名及名稱。（修訂條文第五十一條）","七、配合本條項次變動，順修相關法條。修訂條文第五十三條）","提案人：伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe","連署人：鍾佳濱　　陳俊宇　　陳素月　　吳秉叡　　蔡其昌　　賴瑞隆　　沈發惠　　邱議瑩　　林淑芬　　林月琴　　蘇巧慧　　黃　捷　　王正旭　　陳冠廷　　吳沛憶　　范　雲　　"],["委員羅智強等提案：","案由：本院委員羅智強、鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人，有鑒於2017年起至今，兒童及少年性剝削受害人數由1,060人飆高為3,346人，攀升幅度達三倍以上，為明確我國之兒童及少年性剝削防治之總體政策方針，及有效提升跨部會整合防治效能，應參照美國制定《國家預防和防止剝削兒童策略》（National Strategy for Child Exploitation Prevention and Interdiction），爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第三條條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、依據2017年至2023年之統計，我國兒童及少年性剝削受害人數由1,060人飆高為3,346人，攀升幅度達三倍以上；基於行動數位裝置普及的情境下，兒童及少年性剝削樣態愈發複雜，其中以數位影像的劇烈成長更為令人擔憂，社會應竭盡一切所能，確保剝削兒童及少年之罪犯立即被發覺、獲得處罰。","二、有鑒於美國司法部自2010年起即發布《國家預防和防止剝削兒童策略》（National Strategy for Child Exploitation Prevention and Interdiction），詳細描述美國司法部及其執法夥伴為尋找、起訴和懲罰侵害兒童的人，應所執行的努力做為。該策略手段組成部分包括：副總檢察長辦公室、聯邦調查局、美國法警局、美國檢察官辦公室、刑事司兒童剝削和猥褻科、國際事務辦公室、司法計畫辦公室和法律政策辦公室，與美國各州、郡、聯邦和非政府機構和組織協調，其中包括美國郵政檢查局、國土安全部、移民和海關執法局以及美國特勤局、衛生與公共服務部、國防部、商務部、教育部、等等61項針對兒童的網路犯罪特別工作組以及許多其他地方和州機構和組織，該策略提供一個架構，界定國家目標與行動及衡量標準。","三、現行我國之防治政策僅依據《兒童及少年性剝削防制條例》邀集各部會研議，而非明確且完善的國家級政策方略，早於2013年美國在台協會已有建議我國制定國家策略，可以在打擊網路兒童剝削上，再次為人權做出卓越貢獻，為避免我國兒童及少年受性剝削之受害人數再次劇烈攀升，應修正本法，制定我國之《防制剝削兒童國家策略》。","提案人：羅智強　　鄭天財Sra Kacaw","連署人：林國成　　陳雪生　　林思銘　　翁曉玲　　洪孟楷　　黃健豪　　鄭正鈐　　謝龍介　　林沛祥　　王鴻薇　　游　顥　　魯明哲　　廖先翔　　邱若華　　"],["委員羅智強等提案：","案由：本院委員羅智強、鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人，有鑒於我國高度資訊化發展，新世代被稱為「數位原生代」，每日所接觸各類型平台之數位化服務多元、變化速度極快，惟處於啟蒙時期的兒少族群易深陷網路危機，就現行規範宣導課程時數之不足，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第四條條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、依據家扶基金會2023年所執行之「兒少網路社群使用習慣調查」發現，網路平台即使有標示「未滿18歲」警語，仍有超過2成的兒少會主點擊；4成兒少每天使用網路社群超過2小時。調查也顯示有1成6的兒少是在國小前就開始接觸網路社群，且約有160名兒少自述曾提供私密照，而國小中高年級學生就要面對網路霸凌、提供私密照的狀況，比例甚至高於國中生，顯見兒少有越早開始了解網路社群使用安全的需求，家長對於兒少的網路社群瀏覽內容的把關更需要高度的關注。","二、另參考2019年兒福聯盟所做調查，有高達82.7%的兒少有自己專屬的智慧型手機，平均10歲就有智慧型手機，近9成擁有社群媒體帳號，而有68.2%的兒少曾在網路上看過恐怖血腥、色情暴力等相關內容，有35.8%的兒少每週、甚至每天都會上傳影片。","三、有鑑於現階段之法定兒童及少年性剝削防制教育課程或教育宣導為每學年至少一次，綜合考量上述使用習慣與應用服務快速變遷，應將宣導與教育課程改為每學期辦理。","提案人：羅智強　　鄭天財Sra Kacaw","連署人：鄭正鈐　　吳宗憲　　林思銘　　黃健豪　　王鴻薇　　翁曉玲　　謝龍介　　游　顥　　林國成　　洪孟楷　　魯明哲　　陳雪生　　廖先翔　　邱若華　　"],["委員張宏陸等提案：","案由：本院委員張宏陸等19人，鑒於我國兒童及少年性剝削通報被害人人數逐年增加，被害人亦有年輕化趨勢（被害人為未滿12歲者，自民國108年迄今，已成長3%），又近期發生「台灣N號房」社會事件，加害網站之結構，竟已形成性犯罪產業鏈，實屬社會不樂見之事。為遏止兒少性剝削狀態愈發嚴重，爰提升拍攝者、散布者及無正當理由持有兒少性影像之罰責，以避免助長此類犯罪之增生，保障兒少身心健全發展。爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、鑒於科技進步，網路之影響無遠弗屆，為盡速改正本法犯罪態樣，爰明定網際網路平臺提供者、網際網路應用服務提供者及網際網路接取服務提供者，應於二十四小時內限制瀏覽或移除與第四章犯罪有關之網頁資料。（修正條文第八條）","二、依據衛生福利部保護服務司之「兒童及少年性剝削通報被害人概況」統計，兒童及少年性剝削通報被害人人數，民國108年為1,211人，111年已成長至2,280人，其中被害人係未滿12歲者，漲幅更達3%。近期我國發生「台版N號房」社會事件，顯示犯罪者已形成性犯罪產業鏈結構，實乃法所不容，爰提升罰金金額，以遏止兒少性剝削案件增生。（修正條文第三十五條）","三、參照修正條文第三十五條之說明，提升最輕本刑及罰金金額，加重對拍攝者之罰責。（修正條文第三十六條）","四、本條修正理由參照修正條文第三十五條之說明，提升最輕本刑及罰金金額，加重對散布者之罰責。（修正條文第三十八條）","五、本條修正理由參照修正條文第三十五條之說明，提升最輕本刑及罰金金額，加重對無正當理由持有性影像者之罰責。（修正條文第三十九條）","六、本條修正理由參照修正條文第三十五條之說明，提升最輕本刑及罰金金額，加重支付對價觀覽兒童或少年為性交或猥褻之行為者之罰責。（修正條文第四十四條）","提案人：張宏陸　　","連署人：蘇巧慧　　黃　捷　　李柏毅　　陳培瑜　　徐富癸　　王美惠　　吳琪銘　　陳素月　　邱志偉　　陳俊宇　　伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe　　　　李坤城　　羅美玲　　范　雲　　吳沛憶　　陳秀寳　　蔡易餘　　林俊憲　　"],["委員吳沛憶等提案：","案由：本院委員吳沛憶等21人，為杜絕支付對價而助長兒少性剝削犯罪之行為，故增訂需保留嫌疑人之交易資訊，並對明知有本條例所定引誘、媒介、強暴、容留等情形仍支付對價而持有性影像或觀覽性交、猥褻行為加重處罰，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、於第八條第二項增訂交易資訊之保存。（第八條）","二、於第三十九條增訂第二項：明知有勸誘兒少或以強暴、脅迫、藥劑、詐術、催眠術及其他違反意願之方法，或為營利而拍攝、製造之情形，仍支付對價持有時加重處罰。增訂第三項：持有之性影像涉及兒少死亡或重傷時則再加重。（第三十九條）","三、於第四十四條增訂第二項：明知有勸誘兒少或以強暴、脅迫、藥劑、詐術、催眠術及其他違反意願之方法，或為營利等情形，仍支付對價觀覽性交、猥褻行為加重處罰。增訂第三項：性交、猥褻行為涉及兒少死亡或重傷時另加重之。（第四十四條）","四、因第三十九條與四十四條之項次變動而對其他條文酌予文字調整。（第二十八條、第四十三、第五十一條、第五十三條）","提案人：吳沛憶　　","連署人：陳亭妃　　黃　捷　　王美惠　　吳琪銘　　吳思瑤　　陳培瑜　　洪申翰　　黃秀芳　　邱志偉　　陳秀寳　　陳冠廷　　李柏毅　　伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe　　　　鍾佳濱　　沈伯洋　　許智傑　　范　雲　　林月琴　　王定宇　　張宏陸　　"],["委員吳思瑤等提案：","案由：本院委員吳思瑤等18人，鑑於現行法令對持有兒少性影像刑度不足，造成行為人重複持有、購買，顯見未達嚇阻犯罪之效，為保障兒少權益，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文」修正草案。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、明定「觀覽」兒少性影像罪。（第三十九條）","二、提高拍攝、製造、散布、持有、購買等兒少性影像相關罪行之刑責。（第三十六條、第三十八條、第三十九條、第四十四條）","三、對兒少性剝削犯罪人之處遇，納入身心治療，並提高時數。（第五十一條）","提案人：吳思瑤　　","連署人：郭昱晴　　黃秀芳　　陳秀寳　　鍾佳濱　　黃　捷　　王正旭　　邱志偉　　張雅琳　　陳俊宇　　賴瑞隆　　洪申翰　　陳冠廷　　陳培瑜　　邱議瑩　　吳沛憶　　林宜瑾　　何欣純　　　　　　"],["委員黃秀芳等提案：","案由：本院委員黃秀芳、蘇巧慧、王正旭、洪申翰、陳俊宇、陳秀寳等17人，鑒於近期兒少性剝削事件頻傳，且性剝削事件已轉為集團式經營，且形成如產業鏈般之交易買賣型態，顯見現行法規有未完備之處，為保護兒童及少年福利、阻斷兒少性影像之傳播，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","提案人：黃秀芳　　蘇巧慧　　王正旭　　洪申翰　　陳俊宇　　陳秀寳　　","連署人：林淑芬　　陳培瑜　　陳　瑩　　林月琴　　何欣純　　劉建國　　鍾佳濱　　沈發惠　　羅美玲　　范　雲　　張雅琳　　　　　　　　　　　　"],["委員林淑芬等提案：","案由：本院委員林淑芬等17人，鑑於近年兒少之性剝削影像案件數大幅增長，且因網路科技迅速發展，不肖人士多用通訊軟體、社群網站散布兒童、未成年性影像，對兒少被害人身心造成嚴重創傷和侵害。爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」，將重置、持有或支付對價觀覽納入定義以擴大保護對象範疇，增訂無正當理由支付對價而持有兒少之性影像處以有期徒刑。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、將重置、持有或支付對價觀覽納入定義以擴大保護對象範疇。","二、增訂司法警察、檢察官得運用科技技術方式於網際網路巡查涉兒童或少年性影像犯罪嫌疑情事。","三、增訂無正當理由支付對價而持有兒童或少年之性影像處有期徒刑及罰金。","四、提高無正當理由持有兒少性影像之刑度及罰金。","提案人：林淑芬　　","連署人：張雅琳　　李坤城　　張宏陸　　王美惠　　黃　捷　　陳培瑜　　陳冠廷　　陳秀寳　　陳俊宇　　郭昱晴　　王正旭　　王定宇　　林月琴　　洪申翰　　許智傑　　伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe"],["委員蔡其昌等提案：","案由：本院委員蔡其昌等17人，鑒於數位技術普及造成兒少性剝削案件增加，根據衛生福利部調查，近三年兒少性剝削被害人數增加近八成（從1,879人增加至3,346人），其中以拍攝、製造、散布兒少性影像等案件居多（占總案件數85%），惟礙於法令，目前中央主管機關無法主動巡網並將相關網站封網；又對於付費觀看受性剝削兒童或少年的性影片者欠缺處罰，對兒童及少年之保護不周，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第八條之一及第四十四條條文修正草案」，修法授權中央主管機關主動巡網，期能及時下架兒少性影像，另亦將付費觀看兒童或少年之性影像行為入法處罰。是否有當？敬請公決。","提案人：蔡其昌　　","連署人：伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe　　　　王美惠　　陳秀寳　　張宏陸　　吳秉叡　　林月琴　　陳俊宇　　郭昱晴　　羅美玲　　黃　捷　　洪申翰　　陳素月　　沈伯洋　　王正旭　　陳培瑜　　陳冠廷　　"],["委員林楚茵等提案：","案由：本院委員林楚茵等20人，鑒於我國現行兒童及少年性剝削防制條例於阻絕兒少色情之市場需求上仍有所不足，難達遏阻兒少性犯罪之目的，無法有效防制兒童及少年遭受任何形式之性剝削，顯有修法之必要。故藉由加重、增訂處罰持有、支付對價觀賞兒少色情行為、性影像等行為，達強化保障兒少權益之目的，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第三十九條及第四十四條條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、對無正當理由持有兒童或少年之性影像者，提高法定刑及罰金，並增訂支付對價而持有兒童或少年性影像者處三年以下有期徒刑，得併科新臺幣一百萬元以下罰金，以增加嚇阻犯罪之效果、防止社會對兒少性剝削容忍度之提升。（修正條文第三十九條）","二、對支付對價觀覽兒少為性交或猥褻之行為者，提高法定刑及罰金，並增訂支付對價觀覽兒童或少年性影像處三年以下有期徒刑，得併科新臺幣一百萬元以下罰金，以更全面性的保護兒少免於性剝削之侵害。（修正條文第四十四條）","提案人：林楚茵　　","連署人：蔡易餘　　蘇巧慧　　沈發惠　　賴惠員　　劉建國　　邱議瑩　　李昆澤　　蔡其昌　　李坤城　　林宜瑾　　洪申翰　　陳　瑩　　吳琪銘　　鍾佳濱　　徐富癸　　許智傑　　陳培瑜　　邱志偉　　陳俊宇"],["委員賴瑞隆等提案：","案由：本院委員賴瑞隆等17人，為避免不特定兒童及少年之個人利益受侵害之危險，以達成防制、消弭以兒童或少年為性剝削對象之國家重大公益目的，對無正當理由持有兒童或少年之性影像者之行為和支付對價觀覽兒童或少年為性交或猥褻之行為，應再提高處罰及進行相關輔導教育，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、鑒於數位發展部已成立運作，並監管全國通訊、資訊、資通安全、網路與傳播等數位產業發展、統籌數位治理與數位基礎建設及協助公私部門數位轉型等相關業務，故數位發展部應納入本條中央目的事業主管機關之一，以趨健全。（修正條文第三條）","二、性剝削加害人常透過其持有之兒童或少年性剝削製品誘拐兒童或少年，使更多兒童及少年受害，另性剝削加害人間也常透過交換已持有之性剝削製品以獲得更多相關違法製品，同時促使性剝削製品之供需關係存續。二○○○年聯合國訂立之「關於買賣兒童、兒童賣淫和兒童色情製品問題之兒童權利公約任擇議定書」第三條（c）款即明確要求締約國將「製作、分銷、傳送、進口、出口、出售、銷售或擁有第二條所界定之兒童色情製品」納入刑法規範。故提高無正當理由持有兒童或少年之性影像刑事責任，俾利有效嚇阻。（修正條文第三十九條）","三、國內線上直播觀看影音方式已屬普遍，而以收取費用供人觀看兒童或少年為性交、猥褻行為，與持有兒少性剝削影像行為相類似，爰對於此類行為，亦隨本法第三十九條修正，調整刑度為二年以下，並將最高罰金調升為六十萬，以提高嚇阻效果，保護兒童及少年免於遭受任何形式之性剝削，及其身心健全發展。（修正條文第四十四條）","四、兒童及少年性剝削行為人輔導教育辦法中所謂輔導教育，僅為觀念或知識的認知教育，為減少再犯可能性、維護兒少福祉，爰比照性侵害犯罪防制法修正第一項，針對較為嚴重之加害人應接受身心認知治療。為落實輔導教育或身心治療之成效，增訂第二項，輔導教育或身心治療屆滿前，經評估認有繼續執行之必要者，直轄市、縣（市）主管機關得經評估後延長輔導教育至多二十四小時。且參酌瑞典社會對兒少性剝削之探討經驗，卡羅林斯卡醫學院（Karolinska Institute）成立線上心理治療計畫，進行九週心理認知治療，協助犯罪行為人了解，學習控制自己的想法與行為，以免傷害孩童。（修正條文第五十一條）","提案人：賴瑞隆　　","連署人：郭昱晴　　陳秀寳　　王美惠　　張宏陸　　許智傑　　賴惠員　　李柏毅　　陳俊宇　　吳思瑤　　林宜瑾　　范　雲　　林楚茵　　沈伯洋　　林月琴　　陳　瑩　　王世堅　　"],["委員陳秀寳等提案：","案由：本院委員陳秀寳、伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe、邱志偉等26人，為保障我國兒童及少年之權益，避免兒童及少年遭受任何形式之性剝削，維護我國兒童及少年身心健康發展；爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」，調高對兒童及少年為性剝削相關犯罪行為之罰則。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、近日兒少遭性剝削影像、圖畫或語音於網路流傳猖獗，更有犯罪集團建立會員分級制度，高級會員可以指定兒少性影片之內容，使兒少遭受性剝削之情形越來越嚴重，侵害兒少權益甚鉅。","二、支付對價觀覽兒少之性影像，將大力助長兒少遭受性剝削之風險，罔顧兒少權益。","三、為落實保障兒少權益，使兒少免遭受任何形式之性剝削，爰調高對兒少為性剝削相關犯罪行為之罰則，以防止不法人士利用不正手段引誘、威脅兒少進行性影像之拍攝、散布等一切侵害兒少權益之犯罪行為。","四、為保障我國兒童及少年之權益，避免兒童及少年遭受任何形式之性剝削，維護我國兒童及少年身心健康發展；爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」，調高對兒童及少年為性剝削相關犯罪行為之罰則。","提案人：陳秀寳　　伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe　　　　邱志偉　　","連署人：陳培瑜　　何欣純　　張宏陸　　吳秉叡　　王美惠　　郭昱晴　　林月琴　　黃　捷　　陳冠廷　　陳素月　　李昆澤　　洪申翰　　王正旭　　張雅琳　　蔡易餘　　陳俊宇　　吳思瑤　　黃秀芳　　羅美玲　　李坤城　　吳琪銘　　林俊憲　　蔡其昌　　"],["委員張嘉郡等提案：","案由：本院委員張嘉郡、丁學忠、陳菁徽、顏寬恒、羅廷瑋、鄭天財Sra Kacaw、黃健豪等23人，鑒於現行「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例」僅針對「拍攝、製造、散布、播送、交付、公然陳列或販賣」者懲處，然「購買」兒少性影像等相關物品是創造市場需求，應同時列入禁止之行為加以懲處，並提高針對兒少性剝削之最低量刑，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第二條及第三十八條條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決","說明：","一、增列「購買」為構成兒童或少年性剝削行為之定義。","二、行為人購買兒少相關之性影像或物品亦會導致該類物品增加拍攝、製造等相關行為之可能性，其侵害之程度應與拍攝、製造、散布、播送、交付、公然陳列或販賣等視，故將購買納入第一項犯罪行為類型予以處罰，以保護兒童或少年被害人。","三、原規定散布、播送、交付、公然陳列或以他法供人觀覽、聽聞 兒童或少年之性影像、與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥之圖畫、語音或其他物品者，處一年以上七年以下有期徒刑，加重為兩年以上七年以下有期徒刑。","提案人：張嘉郡　　丁學忠　　陳菁徽　　顏寬恒　　羅廷瑋　　鄭天財Sra Kacaw　　　黃健豪　　","連署人：賴士葆　　許宇甄　　王鴻薇　　黃　仁　　陳雪生　　邱鎮軍　　高金素梅　林國成　　黃建賓　　翁曉玲　　林沛祥　　吳春城　　楊瓊瓔　　麥玉珍　　謝龍介　　游　顥　　"],["委員李彥秀等提案：","案由：本院委員李彥秀、游顥、洪孟楷、徐巧芯等16人，有鑑於未成年人性影像氾濫嚴重，更有不肖人士創建網站散布，除影像內容外，更涉及兒童及少年之個人資料或社交帳戶資訊，故製作、散布或持有相關性行為影像者，已造成兒童及少年人身安全之潛在風險，現行條文雖有輔導教育之機制，然無論是與兒童及少年為性行為、拍攝、散布或持有觀看兒童及少年之性影像、均有可能係「戀童癖」或「非典型戀童癖」患者，參酌性侵害犯罪防治法之相關規定，針對有罪判決確定者評估是否需身心治療或強制治療等處遇，以防杜犯本法之人因未進行相應治療而導致日後再犯，另針對緩起訴確定者亦應比照進行身心治療之處遇方式，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、近年來散布或販賣兒童及少年性影像之行為日益嚴重，亦有網站除販賣性影像之外，另依據會員等級提供未成年人之社交帳號資訊，致使現實中之兒童及少年承擔潛在之人身安全風險，犯兒童及少年性剝削防制條例之行為人，依據研究指出可能係「戀童癖」或「非典型戀童癖」患者，而此類之人目前除刑責外，僅有四到五十小時之輔導教育，明顯難以矯治行為人之行為，而無法有效降低再犯風險。","二、爰此比照性侵害防治法之規定，將輔導教育期限定為三年以下，並應於輔導教育期限內評估受教育人是否有接受身心治療之必要，如評估後須進行身心治療，則轉而進行身心治療之相關程序，另針對拒不履行身心治療之行為人處以一年以下之刑罰。","三、於身心治療期間，經評估後如再犯風險仍高，則可送請檢察官依刑法九十一條之一聲請強制治療或檢具相關評估報告聲請法院裁定命其強制治療。","四、犯前述之罪而遭緩起訴確定者，應準用輔導教育及身心治療之相關規定，以確保其行為已受矯正。","提案人：李彥秀　　游　顥　　洪孟楷　　徐巧芯　　","連署人：楊瓊瓔　　馬文君　　陳菁徽　　廖先翔　　林德福　　林思銘　　陳永康　　徐欣瑩　　邱鎮軍　　羅智強　　林沛祥　　牛煦庭　　"],["委員羅廷瑋等提案：","案由：本院委員羅廷瑋等16人，鑒於非法偷拍性影像販賣事件及兒虐事件頻傳，雖我國已有《刑法》、《犯罪被害人權益保障法》、《性侵害犯罪防治法》與《兒童及少年性剝削防制條例》等性暴力防制四法，惟相較於其他各國法律，本國於現行條文對製造、散布、持有兒少性私密影像罰則過輕，難以達遏阻犯罪、立即保護兒少之效，同時應合理排除虛擬產物、圖畫等二次元創作受限制之適切性，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、提高相關罰則，犯案首謀依犯罪情形最高可處死刑或無期徒刑，其幫助犯或向犯罪者購買、觀看、引誘、容留、招募、媒介、協助者，將最輕本刑提高至三年以上，十年以下。","二、《兒少性剝削防制條例》旨在保護兒少個人法益，目前無實證研究與在地經驗支持其觀看色情兒少動漫會對真人兒少採取實際行動之論點，為避免動漫繪圖等相關創作產業族群權益受損，爰修正第二條第一項第三款：「拍攝、製造、散布、播送、交付、公然陳列或販賣兒童或少年之性影像、與性相關而客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥以真人所繪製之色情圖畫及電磁紀錄生成之擬真色情圖畫、語音或其他物品。」聚焦管理真人所繪製之色情圖畫及電磁紀錄生成之擬真色情圖畫。","提案人：羅廷瑋　　","連署人：林德福　　徐巧芯　　邱鎮軍　　黃　仁　　廖先翔　　顏寬恒　　張智倫　　盧縣一　　林沛祥　　涂權吉　　鄭正鈐　　廖偉翔　　吳宗憲　　林思銘　　陳超明　　　　　"],["委員翁曉玲等提案：","案由：本院委員翁曉玲、洪孟楷、羅智強、羅廷瑋、許宇甄、林沛祥等22人，有鑑於《兒童及少年性剝削防制條例》自公布施行後，對於兒少性剝削之案件仍未減少，加上近年的南韓N號房事件以及稱之為臺版N號房之「創意私房」平台等仍猖獗，據此下載而持有兒少相關性影像者仍不在少數。顯見現行法對於持有、觀覽兒少性剝削影像行為之處罰仍屬過輕，難以達成嚇阻之效。另依現行規定僅施以刑罰及輔導教育，恐無法有效阻絕再犯，於必要時，宜再要求其接受身心治療或心理輔導，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」，俾保護兒童及少年之權益。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、按本法第三十九條已於民國一百一十二年修正時，對於持有兒少性影像者科以刑罰。然依關於打擊兒童性虐待、性剝削和兒童色情製品的歐盟2011/93指令第五條第二項之規定，獲取或持有兒童或少年之色情製品者，最重應處至少一年之有期徒刑。另參考歐洲各國法，如德國刑法第一百八十四條與奧地利刑法對於單純持有兒童或少年色情刊物處三年以下有期徒刑；而法國刑法第二百二十七條之二十三第四項，對習慣性近用或於線上通訊服務以付費方式換取或以其他任何方式獲取或持有十五歲以下（即該國之性同意年齡）之未成年色情製品，更得處五年以下有期徒刑，併科七萬五千歐元罰金，規範皆更加嚴格。從而，參酌現行法第三十八條關於散布、播送交付、公然陳列或以他法供人觀覽、聽聞兒童或少年之性影像之規定，加重本條之刑度至二年以下，且刪除拘役及單純科以罰金之處罰。（修正條文第三十九條）","二、按關於打擊兒童性虐待、性剝削和兒童色情製品的歐盟指令2011/93第四條第四項之規定，故意觀覽兒童色情表演之最高刑度應為至少二年之有期徒刑，或於已達兒童同意性行為之年齡時，至少一年之有期徒刑。按實務上多透過線上方式收取費用供人觀看兒少性交、猥褻行為，涉與人數眾多，不僅對受剝削者造成嚴重影響，亦是對相關行為之不當促進與鼓勵。參考同法第三十一條以下規定之刑度，爰加重刑度為二年以下有期徒刑，並刪除拘役及單純科以罰金之處罰。（修正條文第四十四條）","三、依現行法，若犯製作、拍攝、散布與持有兒少性影像之罪，經判決有罪或緩起訴處分確定者，僅需接受輔導教育。而系爭輔導教育，依據「兒童及少年性剝削行為人輔導教育辦法」，僅涉及性剝削防治教育課程或教育宣導內容，對上述行為人難以達到犯罪防治之目的。故參酌性侵害犯罪防治法關於身心治療、輔導或教育之規定，必要時，應令其接受身心治療、心理輔導。（修正條文第五十一條）","四、並因應第五十一條之修訂，增訂身心治療、心理輔導之對象、方式、內容等規定，亦授權中央主管機關會同法務主管機關以辦法定之。（修正條文第五十三條）","提案人：翁曉玲　　洪孟楷　　羅智強　　羅廷瑋　　許宇甄　　林沛祥　　","連署人：謝龍介　　傅崐萁　　陳雪生　　林思銘　　陳玉珍　　邱若華　　廖先翔　　馬文君　　丁學忠　　邱鎮軍　　林德福　　林國成　　羅明才　　楊瓊瓔　　高金素梅　陳永康　　　　　　　　　　　　"],["委員洪孟楷等提案：","案由：本院委員洪孟楷、羅廷瑋、游顥、黃健豪等19人，有鑑於製造、散布及持有兒少性剝削影像之犯行層出不窮，嚴重侵害兒少身體隱私、導致兒少身心創傷，顯見現行罰則無法彰顯保護兒少健康安全之立法宗旨。為嚇阻潛在犯罪、瓦解共犯結構，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」，以強化保護兒少權益，防制兒少遭性剝削、遏止兒少性影像散布所衍生之危害。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：","一、拍攝、製造性剝削影像等不法行為仍層出不窮、難以根除，現行刑罰嚇阻力仍有提高之必要。為加強防制兒少遭性剝削、遏止兒少性影像散布等犯罪行為，針對拍攝、製造兒少色情，將刑度至三年以上七年以下有期徒刑；罰金提高至最多新臺幣三百萬元以下。招募、引誘、容留、媒介、協助或以他法而拍攝、製造兒少色情，將刑度提高至五年以上十年以下有期徒刑；罰金提高至最多新臺幣五百萬元以下。以強暴、脅迫、藥劑、詐術、催眠術或其他違反本人意願之方法而拍攝、製造兒少色情，罰金提高至最多新臺幣八百萬元以下。（修正條文第三十六條）","二、散布行為得使特定或不特定多數人隨時瀏覽該兒少性剝削之影像、圖畫或語音等相關記錄，進而造成二度傷害。尤其數位科技發展、犯罪集團猖獗，散布者容易成為不法社群或平台的來源提供途徑之一。為嚇阻潛在犯罪、瓦解共犯結構，爰提高刑度以符合罪刑相當原則：散布、播送、交付、公然陳列或以他法供人觀覽、聽聞兒少色情，將刑度提高至三年以上七年以下有期徒刑。意圖散布、播送、交付或公然陳列而持有前項物品，將刑度提高至一年以上五年以下有期徒刑。（修正條文第三十八條）","三、持有兒少性剝削影像之行為，使特定或不特定多數人得以保存該兒少色情，惟兒少性剝削之記錄將導致被害兒少創傷，亦不利其身心健全發展。持有兒少性影像及相關製品之現象所在多有，顯見現行法之罰則與兒少保護之意旨難以相符。配合第三十八條刑度之修正，爰將無正當理由持有兒童或少年之性影像之刑度提高至兩年以下有期徒刑，並得併科最高新臺幣一百萬元之罰金。另配合第五十一條第一項之修正，刪除第二項有關「接受輔導教育」之規定，明定持有兒少性相關圖畫、語音或其他物品之行為人，除課予行政罰以外，亦須接受輔導教育或身心治療。（修正條文第三十九條）","四、付費觀看兒少性行為或性影像，等同鼓勵、間接促成兒少性剝削影像供需市場。現行條文僅規範付費觀看兒少性行為，未納入付費觀看兒少性影像，若涉及購買觀看性影像之行為，恐無法以本條類推適用。爰明定付費觀看兒少性行為及性影像者，處三年以下有期徒刑，並得併科新臺幣五萬元以上五十萬元以下罰金。（修正條文第四十四條）","五、現有《兒童及少年權利保障法》及《性侵害犯罪防治法》均有針對加害人蒐集建立資料庫之相關法源，惟目前尚無針對兒少性剝削犯罪者建立資料庫，僅得於司法院判決書系統公開查閱之。爰明定違反本法經判決有罪確定者，主管機關得依法公布其姓名、照片及違法事實，統一建立專屬搜尋系統，以利加強犯罪之嚇阻，並防止他人再度受害之可能。（增訂條文第四十五條之二）","六、基於「再犯預防」的思維模式，透過專業工作者企圖改變性犯罪者的認知、行為甚至人格狀態，藉以提升「自我控制」的程度，而達到「防止再犯」為終極性的價值目的。爰修正本條第一項至第三項，明定對犯行者實施輔導教育或身心治療，另針對不接受及拒不完成時數者，罰鍰由新臺幣六千元以上三萬元以下提高至一萬元以上十萬元以下。（修正條文第五十一條）","提案人：洪孟楷　　羅廷瑋　　游　顥　　黃健豪　　","連署人：萬美玲　　葛如鈞　　林倩綺　　鄭正鈐　　徐巧芯　　高金素梅　牛煦庭　　徐欣瑩　　馬文君　　邱鎮軍　　張智倫　　林思銘　　楊瓊瓔　　林德福　　羅智強　　　　　"],["台灣民眾黨黨團提案：","案由：本院台灣民眾黨黨團，為保障我國兒童及未成年人之權益，並為嚇阻針對兒少之性犯罪，爰擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」。是否有當？敬請公決。","說明：兒童及少年性剝削防制條例（下稱本條例）於民國八十四年八月十一日公布施行迄今，歷經數次修正，最近一次修正於民國一百十二年二月十五日公布施行。惟本法最近一次修正公布施行後，我國仍有網路論壇持續以販售、散布兒童或少年之性影像；且持有、甚至參與販售、散布兒童或少年性影像者不乏我國知名男性演藝人員。顯現民國一百十二年之修法之嚇阻力仍然有限。為強化我國對兒少權益之保護，並對違反本法規定之人予以最嚴厲之刑事及行政制裁以及後續日常生活之管控，爰擬具兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案，其修正要點如下：","一、配合本法修正，增訂行為人之定義。（修正條文第二條）","二、配合釋字第六一七號解釋，修正「羞恥」相關定義；並拉高本法罰則。（修正條文第三十八條至第四十條及第四十四條）","三、授權中央警政主管機關蒐集行為人之相關資料。（增訂條文第五十二條之二）","四、授權中央警政主管機關建立全國兒童及少年性剝削行為人資料庫。（增訂條文第五十二條之三）","五、就行為人應施行身心治療或強制治療部分，準用性侵害犯罪防治法相關規定。（增訂條文第五十二條之四）","六、行為人經本條例所定之罪為有罪判決確定或經緩起訴處分確定者，應限制其住居、施以科技設備監控，並應定期辦理登記、報到，且應接受司法警察定期或不定期查訪。（增訂條文第五十二條之五及第五十二條之六）","提案人：台灣民眾黨立法院黨團","黃珊珊　黃國昌　吳春城"],["主席：報告院會，本案現已完成協商，請宣讀協商結論。","立法院黨團協商結論","時間：113年6月5日（星期三）中午12時30分","113年6月19日（星期三）上午9時30分","地點：群賢樓802會議室、群賢樓801會議室","協商主題：","一、社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制兩委員會報告併案審查「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」等36案。","二、逕付二讀：委員張嘉郡等23人、委員李彥秀等16人、委員羅廷瑋等16人、委員翁曉玲等22人、委員洪孟楷等19人、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員蔡易餘等17人、委員伍麗華Saidhai 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