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祈禮盛名更不要說各執法第五條規定最小必要性的原則在二修之後對人民的隱私權構成巨大的傷害人民將對罷免望之卻步"},{"start":1448.763,"end":1475.059,"text":"我举个例子新法不可行不好用就看看你们国民党青年团发起的罢免律委的行动也赶着送件急着要试用旧法这就说明了你们自己修的法不好用不合用连自己的青年军都不想用另外大法官499号试字也已经清楚打脸过"},{"start":1476.286,"end":1501.852,"text":"涉及事項民意代表不能用修法的方式來自肥圖利國代的延任案已經被打臉了現在的選罷法修惡就形同是立委的自我圖利恐怕又會再被憲法法庭打臉一次人民有權選出公職就有權利來罷免在座的你我"},{"start":1502.677,"end":1518.25,"text":"我吳思瑤也被國民黨發動的罷免來鎖定但是我選擇的方式如同民進黨13位已經被鎖定惡霸的立委一樣我們選擇的方式是勇敢接受人民的recheck"},{"start":1519.131,"end":1538.428,"text":"面對人民的recall我們是謙遜反省勇敢以對而不是傲慢的對抗不要為了一己之私傷害民權稍後的投票是記名投票容我提醒大家誰在持續作惡誰能撥亂反正"},{"start":1546.757,"end":1550.65,"text":"謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言接下來我們請吳宗憲委員發言張宏祿委員請準備"},{"start":1561.935,"end":1584.75,"text":"各位委員大家好 在此我還是要認同甘吳市長委員所說的是誰在惡霸其實人民都清楚 我覺得到底是誰在惡霸我想全國人民都非常的清楚那我們這次針對民進黨發起尤其是柯總召不停的呼喊要大家來大罷免的情況這個惡霸造成台灣一直的動盪不安 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主席 各位同仁 新聞界的朋友 新年快樂全球經濟亂流 台灣沒有低估風險的本錢我們從川普的行事風格來看 加徵關稅 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剛剛有寫好就大概知道了這個有寫在旁邊那說實際你們這邊有拍嗎因為院長看得很多我們都看得很多沒有對 因為他一直會看而且我都看得很多"},{"start":3474.769,"end":3475.189,"text":"好好"},{"start":3496.284,"end":3502.129,"text":"就跟這邊一起好旁邊這邊有這裡好因為最近冰我們都很擔心像是剛剛那個燈會開有有有 燈會一開喔可以喔 燈會一開"},{"start":3525.401,"end":3526.582,"text":"因為我覺得打仗會不會"},{"start":3552.722,"end":3580.452,"text":"對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,"},{"start":3583.435,"end":3598.832,"text":"好,你現在就坐這裡了好,你現在就坐這裡了好,你現在就坐這裡了好,你現在就坐這裡了"},{"start":3614.382,"end":3614.683,"text":"謝謝大家"},{"start":3640.845,"end":3658.985,"text":"響鐘"},{"start":3659.921,"end":3660.342,"text":"可以 請進去"},{"start":3694.162,"end":3694.402,"text":"謝謝大家"},{"start":3714.651,"end":3715.091,"text":"我還沒吃完餅"},{"start":3740.758,"end":3746.145,"text":"現在是110位就三位沒報告"},{"start":5392.573,"end":5402.581,"text":"現在我們請秘書長報告出席人數報告宴會出席委員86人已足法定人數我們現在開會先處理朝野黨團協商結論請議事人員宣讀"},{"start":5406.653,"end":5435.51,"text":"立法院黨團協商結論時間114年2月6日星期四下午23時分地點紅樓302會議室決定事項一各黨團同意定於2月11日星期二舉行第11屆第三會期第一次會議處理公職人員選舉罷免法之附議案第一次會議議事日程緊列議事錄公職人員選舉罷免法附議案其余議案暫不編列並以議程查案經送院會處理"},{"start":5436.691,"end":5457.1,"text":"當日院會報告事項處理完畢隨即改開全院委員會審查公職人員選舉罷免法附議案審查時不邀請行政院長列席說明並由國民黨黨團推派三人民進黨黨團推派三人台灣民眾黨黨團推派一人進行發言每位委員發言時間為五分鐘"},{"start":5459.541,"end":5480.095,"text":"順序屹立授權議事處辦理名單請於2月10日星期一中午12時前送交議事處會審預期視同放棄二 全院委員會審查完畢同日改開院會進行基民投票表決並由各黨團推派一人擔任投開票監察員其餘相關投票事務工作屹立授"},{"start":5480.976,"end":5500.748,"text":"全議事處辦理當日院會不處理臨時提案並於附議案處理完畢再行散會2月25日星期二舉行本第三會期第二次會議邀請行政院院長率同各部會所長列席進行施政方針及施政報告並對質詢報告後隨即進行政黨質詢當日質詢人數由國民黨黨團推派三人民進黨黨團推派三人台灣民眾黨黨團推派一人進行"},{"start":5511.595,"end":5540.274,"text":"質詢順序依台灣民眾黨黨團民進黨黨團國民黨黨團之順序輪流加差方式進行有關質詢期間之順序及人數均屹立授權議事處辦理4.本第三會期委員參加委員會及各委員會召集委員之選舉不受本院組織法各委員會組織法及其相關授權規定之限制其日程表如附件"},{"start":5541.435,"end":5553.626,"text":"五本會期至3月7日星期五起每週五及次週二視為一次院會國事論壇及臨時提案依往例處理週五上午9時至10時為國事論壇時間"},{"start":5557.003,"end":5571.11,"text":"週二下午五十至六十處理臨時提案實行期間週二下午一時五十分至二十三十分處理臨時提案六本第三會期程序委員會依政黨比例由國民黨黨團推派九人民進黨黨團推派九人"},{"start":5574.371,"end":5598.252,"text":"臺灣民眾黨黨團推敗藝人代表組成名單請於3月6日星期四中午12時前送至議事處會診上述名單送交議事處後及不予更換有關本院通過之中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案及財政收支劃分法部分條文如今行政院依據憲法增修條文規定"},{"start":5599.072,"end":5610.418,"text":"提出復議各黨團同意加開院會處理復議案主持人韓國瑜 江啟臣協商代表傅根齊 王宏威 羅志強柯建民 吳思耀 陳培宇黃國昌 張啟凱 陳昭芝宣讀完畢"},{"start":5617.523,"end":5638.424,"text":"没有异议我们就通过114年度2月6日超越党团协商结论经决定如下一各党团同意于2月11日星期二举行第11届第三会期第一次会议处理公职人员选举罢免法之复议案第一次会议日程紧列一事录公职人员选举罢免法复议案其余议案暂不编列"},{"start":5640.068,"end":5662.927,"text":"並以議程草案禁送院會處理當日院會報告事項處理完畢隨即改開全院委員會審查公職人員選舉罷免法覆議案審查時不邀請行政院長列席說明並由國民黨團推派三位民進黨團推派三位台灣民眾黨黨團推派一位進行每位委員發言時間五分鐘順序依例授權議事處處理二"},{"start":5664.668,"end":5683.449,"text":"全院委員會審查完畢同時改開院會進行記名投票表決並由各黨團推派一位擔任投開票監察員去相關投票事務工作一例授權議事處辦理當日院會我們不再處理臨時提案並於復議案處理完畢進行散會"},{"start":5687.251,"end":5708.869,"text":"2月25日星期二舉行第三會及第二次會議邀請行政院院長率同各部會首長列席進行施政方針及施政報告並被質詢報告後隨即進行政黨質詢當日質詢人數由國民黨團推派三位民進黨黨團推派三位台灣民眾黨黨團推派一位進行"},{"start":5710.249,"end":5737.52,"text":"質詢的順序依照台灣民眾黨團、民進黨團、國民黨團之順序輪流交叉方式進行有關質詢期間之順序及人數均依例授權議事處辦理是本第三會期委員參加委員會及各委員會召集委員之選舉不受本院組織法、各委員會組織法及相關授權規定之限制其日程表如附件五"},{"start":5738.34,"end":5753.097,"text":"本會及至3月7日星期五起每週五及次週二視為一次院會國事論壇及臨時提案依往例處理週五上午9點至10點國事論壇時間週二下午5點至6點處理臨時提案諮詢期間週二下午1點50分至2點30分處理臨時提案六"},{"start":5759.724,"end":5776.484,"text":"本第三會期程序人會議政黨比例由國民黨團推派9位民進黨團推派9位台灣民眾黨團推派1位代表組成名單起於3月6日星期四中午12點前送至議事處會診上述名單送交議事處之後我們不予以更換"},{"start":5778.277,"end":5798.921,"text":"七有關本院通過中華民國一百四年度中央政府總預算案及財政收支劃分法部分條文如今行政院依據憲法徵修條文規定提出附議我們各黨團同意加開院會處理附議案另外要跟院會補充報告本會期委員會登記個人質詢"},{"start":5801.738,"end":5820.436,"text":"登記個人質詢至3月4號截止報議會剛才院會所決定之協商結論本次會議議程就照議程草案通過本次會議議事日程我們就確定現在進行報告事項請秘書長宣讀第二會期第18次會議議事錄"},{"start":5822.819,"end":5837.038,"text":"宣讀立法院第十一屆第二會期第十八次會議事錄時間 中華民國一百十四年一月十七日上午九時至九時二十分 十時至十一時四十四分下午二十三三分至四時四十四分"},{"start":5837.939,"end":5849.021,"text":"1月20日上午10時1分至下午20時50分30時31分至1月21日上午50時31分50時41分至50時44分下午10時19分至30時26分地點本院議場出席委員陳委員招致等113人主席院長韓國瑜副院長江啟臣報告事項第一案宣讀本院第11屆"},{"start":5866.789,"end":5885.348,"text":"第二會期第十七次會議議事錄決定 確定第二至二六三案均決定退為程序委員會重新提出執行事項均退為程序委員會重新提出同意全職刑署事項決議一 李美"},{"start":5886.004,"end":5890.509,"text":"2.陳志明同意續任公民交易委員會委員並為副主任委員3."},{"start":5890.509,"end":5900.138,"text":"洪才隆不同意續任公民交易委員會委員4."},{"start":5900.138,"end":5903.141,"text":"林慶堂同意續任公民交易委員會委員"},{"start":5906.324,"end":5921.11,"text":"同意為公平交易委員會委員討論事項第一二十八至二十一案均決議通過第三案決議交互黨團協商並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商第四至十七案"},{"start":5922.52,"end":5949.571,"text":"均決議協商後再行處理其他事項一 國民黨黨團提議延長開會時間一案予以通過二 114年1月21日朝野黨團協商結論一項宣讀完畢報案會終究第二會期第18次會議議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處我們現在作以下決定第二會期第18次會議議事錄確定其應必宣讀第二案及第三案"},{"start":5950.39,"end":5968.93,"text":"第二案 行政院衡委本院三讀通過修正忠誠原選舉報名法部分條文其中第76條 第79條 第80條及第83條條文 經研議確屬之案難行依憲法增修條文第三條第二項第二款規定 疑企本院負以案"},{"start":5969.771,"end":5995.6,"text":"第三案 总统府秘书长韩伟本院通过修正公职与选举报名法部分条文 增请总统公布案 经协议院演绎 以其中第76条 第79条 第80条及第83条条文确属之案的行 以依宪法增修条文第三条第二项第二款规定 呈奉总统合格 以起本院复议案"},{"start":5996.8,"end":6013.968,"text":"議事處意見 以上二案擬請院會依黨團協商結論決定將全院委員會審查當日院會報告事項處理完畢隨即改開全院委員會審查審查完畢同時改開院會進行記名投票表決宣讀完畢"},{"start":6014.943,"end":6037.877,"text":"官員會以上兩案均照案通過我們報告事項已處理完畢現在我們改開全院委員會請各位委員到議場簽到處進行全院委員會之簽到官員會我們一旦到足法定人數之後我們立刻召開全院委員會先來休息"},{"start":6525.346,"end":6548.944,"text":"請秘書長報告出席人數報告全院委員會出席委員74人已足法定人數我們現在開會本次全院委員會是議程一上午院會通過附議案審查時程之決定辦理我們現在進行討論事項請議事人員一併宣讀討論事項第一案及第二案討論事項第一案"},{"start":6551.149,"end":6576.813,"text":"行政院行為本院三讀通過修正公職人員選舉報免法部分條文其中第76條 第79條 第80條及第83條條文經研議確鎖之案難行依憲法增修條文第三條第二項第二款規定一計本院附議案第二案 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再北七行政議長說北七保長說北七官員說北七立法委員說北七整棟都在說北七有夠可憐啦"},{"start":6827.773,"end":6842.6,"text":"那 孫叔就去黑咕 不會發動白面像這個柯總召 我在講話 還在給他拍照 不用煩惱就輸給你記載孫叔就去黑咕 就像這種的孫爺爺叫不再贏了孫叔就去飛雲各位鄉親我們的總統無頭到尾娶什麼這是他們的關係他們說什麼"},{"start":6857.053,"end":6867.481,"text":"選手要出國 沒寶座喔 說你都沒寶座各位啊 全台灣所有運動選手各單行聽者這就是白痴 因為這樣白痴古人 貼有數的文章 五十四億今年我們給台七十萬"},{"start":6878.652,"end":6884.48,"text":"70萬就是我們國安委員席頭頂撐 選手席一般撐我們把頭頂撐掉這樣以後如果說所有台灣體育運動選手的選舉報紙都沒有我跟你們說 有人要吐槍"},{"start":6894.124,"end":6910.435,"text":"今年我們刪掉中午上午七十三月的比股年假十九月今年你們林徽南部拿著寶座隆重來跟在野党的立法委員來給我們抱我們就要把這個國話宣告給它釐出來這樣好不好"},{"start":6914.5,"end":6918.408,"text":"這就是白痴 因為白痴一條我們台灣人說一塊我蓋一個白痴就很嚴重了這個政黨一塊我蓋三四隻白痴"},{"start":6928.7,"end":6941.117,"text":"我們讓他這麼多錢,他說他沒辦法做工作,三條新代表說他沒辦法做工作,不會有三尊像K1過去,我們說三夫要請"},{"start":6945.763,"end":6966.57,"text":"讓我出去一半 財富不能挖今天你馬上請到這個倒影台 明公的霸道賽 要挖不挖今天如果沒有挖 我跟你說 這間出去的保證倒保證要倒 過了我們台灣 我們這個美好的家庭 不能夠讓它過得太高級了今年都算有剩幾百跟兩千億"},{"start":6972.038,"end":6981.89,"text":"過去被當過兇高傑這個結果還沒拿出來所以 國民黨的兄啊 比較多錢來也死不夠啊他們就是要再吃 再吃 吃送 整棟過兇高傑 繼續貪 繼續吃 吃到吃送"},{"start":6990.885,"end":6993.106,"text":"謝謝謝榮介委員的發言接下來請張祺凱委員發言吳思堯委員請準備"},{"start":7031.554,"end":7050.061,"text":"請行政院不要變成大惡霸不要變成大亂霸民調非常清楚絕大部分的民眾反對這次的大罷免民進黨也知道今天行政院提的這個復議案絕對不可能通過"},{"start":7051.724,"end":7073.913,"text":"為什麼要提呢一個拖延時間第一個就是要發動大罷免可是大罷免對台灣真的好嗎遍地烽火對台灣真的好嗎請民進黨再深思齊凱今天先提醒大家請看兩個民調一個民進黨自打嘴巴的笑話"},{"start":7076.259,"end":7098.873,"text":"這次的選罷法修正案有兩個民調清清楚楚第一個你問立法院剛剛通過的選罷法修正案你贊成嗎高達六成三的民眾認為贊成而且認為要附身份證的正反面的影印本因為這樣"},{"start":7100.526,"end":7120.041,"text":"才能夠渡劫造假渡劫幽靈的造假有些往生者的名單被填在上面絕對多數民意是支持的特別是學歷越高年輕的選民越支持這次的這個修法包括有20歲到29歲7乘3是贊成的30到39歲7乘2另外呢這次民進黨要發動"},{"start":7128.882,"end":7156.513,"text":"大罷免另外一環民調美麗島電子報清楚地顯示高達七成二的民眾反對這次的大罷免所以從民調看得出來絕對多數的民眾支持修法反對這次大罷免結果行政院違背了民意製造社會的對立另外還有一個民進黨自打嘴巴的大笑話"},{"start":7158.427,"end":7184.381,"text":"我拿的這一份啦是民進黨21位立法委員包括吳秉瑞蔡議員 邱議員吳佩玉一共有21位的民進黨立法委員在去年的第一會期提了一個選罷法的修正案他的理由是這樣說的一共啊"},{"start":7185.515,"end":7212.415,"text":"最近幾百啊 選罷法你在提這個罷免案的時候出現了大量死亡的連署這個人數就是往生者啊在連署上面出現了他怎麼講呢他說啊 幾個案子裡面都出現上千噸的死亡者就是幽靈的這個連署而且理由裡面怎麼說"},{"start":7214.777,"end":7242.965,"text":"隱含的假冒分數恐怕比死亡連署的數還是幾倍以上喔就是死亡的人被放在連署書上面的最近都有幾千人然後民進黨還講沒有查到的黑數啊幾倍以上所以他們做了一個定論說現行的連署的這個制度罷免的時候啊有嚴重的漏洞我要問民進黨"},{"start":7244.588,"end":7273.627,"text":"你們認為有嚴重的漏洞嗎不用補破滑嗎不用補嗎結果21個民進黨立法委員現在自打水疤更嚴重的 我要提醒大家民進黨推動大罷免真的是誤判情勢現在你看兩黨現在都提了很多的連署對台灣不好的同時我們要問"},{"start":7274.912,"end":7301.582,"text":"包括吳斯亞委員吳佩玉委員在場兩位民進黨的原住民的委員你們都是變成危險的名單了你們在危害社會的同時違背民意的同時你們又可能被罷免為什麼不趕快踩煞車呢昨天賴清德總統召集了五院院長我看韓國瑜韓院長"},{"start":7303.936,"end":7319.073,"text":"苦口婆心的建議趕快踩煞車台灣民眾黨也非常非常明確請不要再推動大罷免了今天透過這個案子很清楚立法院不會通過"},{"start":7320.607,"end":7346.081,"text":"請民進黨第一個踩煞車第二個不要再提負議案另外不要提醒負議案是非常嚴肅的請行政院不要再亂提負議案了今天沒有過請行政院長負起你的政治責任謝謝張清凱委員發言接下來請吳思堯委員發言吳宗憲委員請準備"},{"start":7353.089,"end":7376.975,"text":"主席各位同仁 誰在講白菜誰在看誰是惡霸 誰在惡霸 人民也看得一清二楚這屆立法院 服國立民的法案太少 禍國殃民的惡法卻比比皆是新年新會期 立法院還要持續作惡下去嗎"},{"start":7378.43,"end":7392.875,"text":"复议案就是法案的庭看厅是重新审视的珍贵机会选报法的复议案就是一个民主的重考立法院要得高分还是要交白卷呢"},{"start":7394.113,"end":7416.53,"text":"宣佈法將罷免連署加嚴的惡修修法的程序毫不正義實質的內容更是違憲害民人民是國家的主人依據憲法擁有罷免不適任公職的權利閹割民權惡修法律就是真正的惡樸欺主"},{"start":7418.391,"end":7441.077,"text":"惡母欺主的國民黨勢必會遭受民意的反撲自食惡果害怕罷免的國民黨立委們投票支持復議案這是你們最後一次挽回民心的機會這一次如果再不把握一旦被罷免了你們終將沒有下一次的機會"},{"start":7443.839,"end":7471.748,"text":"選罷法修二程序毫不正義選罷法今天要進行復議案的連署加嚴版是院會淨附二讀的版本所以委員會沒有討論正因為淨附二讀需要在朝野協商來好好對話但是不論國民黨召集的黨團協商乃至於韓國瑜院長召集的朝野協商都只是過水的政治秀我要告訴黃國昌總召"},{"start":7473.118,"end":7497.945,"text":"賴清德總統召集的院紀協商不是過水的政治秀韓國瑜院長召集的朝野協商才是12月20號的表決民進黨的委員反對的意見再次被沒收而立法院再一次動用了舉手表決議事錄上成了空白立委二修不需要對民意負責"},{"start":7499.105,"end":7523.935,"text":"更變本加厲的是立法院居然可以因為內政委員會徐欣盈交委的一紙公文就把選罷法成為人質肉票扣在立法院一扣一押就是35天而在過年前的最後下班前一個小時內緊急壓線送到行政院知請總統公告"},{"start":7525.335,"end":7544.294,"text":"審法案搞偷襲送法案也搞偷襲這是人民期待的立法院嗎實質的層面在行政院提請的復議案已經清楚的說明罷免連署加附身份證設下了史上最難也最嚴的連署門檻"},{"start":7546.136,"end":7559.99,"text":"閹割民權祈禮盛名更不要說各執法第五條規定最小必要性的原則在二修之後對人民的隱私權構成巨大的傷害人民將對罷免望之卻步"},{"start":7562.893,"end":7589.186,"text":"我举个例子新法不可行不好用就看看你们国民党青年团发起的罢免律委的行动也赶着送箭急着要试用旧法这就说明了你们自己修的法不好用不合用连自己的青年军都不想用另外大法官499号试字也已经清楚打脸过"},{"start":7590.416,"end":7615.987,"text":"涉及事項民意代表不能用修法的方式來自肥圖利國代的延任案已經被打臉了現在的選罷法修惡就形同是立委的自我圖利恐怕又會再被憲法法庭打臉一次人民有權選出公職就有權利來罷免在座的你我"},{"start":7616.806,"end":7632.378,"text":"我吳思瑤也被國民黨發動的罷免來鎖定但是我選擇的方式如同民進黨13位已經被鎖定惡霸的立委一樣我們選擇的方式是勇敢接受人民的recheck"},{"start":7633.268,"end":7652.557,"text":"面對人民的recall我們是謙遜反省勇敢以對而不是傲慢的對抗不要為了一己之私傷害民權稍後的投票是記名投票容我提醒大家誰在持續作惡誰能撥亂反正"},{"start":7660.884,"end":7664.766,"text":"謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言接下來我們請吳宗憲委員發言張宏祿委員請準備"},{"start":7676.065,"end":7698.876,"text":"各位委員大家好 在此我還是要認同甘吳市長委員所說的是誰在惡霸其實人民都清楚 我覺得到底是誰在惡霸我想全國人民都非常的清楚那我們這次針對民進黨發起尤其是柯總召不停的呼喊要大家來大罷免的情況這個惡霸造成台灣一直的動盪不安 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