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我們要開始進行表決現在有針對台灣民眾黨黨團提議現在有民進黨黨團 台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨黨團提議請按贊成反對 請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始"},{"start":6124.806,"end":6130.092,"text":"報告表決結果在場出席委員107位贊成59位反對48位贊成者多數台灣民眾黨黨團體照案通過"},{"start":6141.068,"end":6162.917,"text":"會員會以剛才院會的表決通過台灣民眾黨黨團僅限列之提議因此其他黨團提議我們就不再進行處理列入公報記錄另外國民黨黨團提議與台灣民眾黨黨團提議相同向院會說明本次會議議事日程報告事項質詢事項照台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過"},{"start":6166.315,"end":6193.91,"text":"我們現在進行處理討論事項部分一先後處理各黨團提議現在我們進行處理台灣民眾黨團討論事項提議共一案請議事人員宣讀提議內容本院台灣民眾黨黨團針對第十一屆第三會期第十九次會議議事成討論事項提議僅限列如附表示無案是否有當進行公決宣讀完畢全院會"},{"start":6195.312,"end":6205.782,"text":"對台灣民眾黨團這提議有無意義有意義我們要開始進行表決針對台灣民眾黨黨團提議現有民進黨黨團台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨黨團請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":6290.731,"end":6294.814,"text":"報議會報告表決結果在場委員107位贊成59位反對48位贊成者多數台灣民眾黨黨團體照案通過"},{"start":6304.549,"end":6327.26,"text":"會會方才院會通過的台灣民眾黨黨團僅限列之提議因此其他黨團的提議我們就不再進行處理列入公報記錄另外國民黨團之提議與台灣民眾黨黨團提議相同向院會說明本次會議議事日程討論事項照台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過本次會議議事日程確定"},{"start":6328.683,"end":6350.535,"text":"我們現在進行報告事項請秘書長宣讀第三會期第十八次會議議事錄宣讀立法院第十一屆第三會期第十八次會議議事錄時間中華民國一百十四年六月二十七日上午九時至九時二十六分十時至十一時二十六分下午三時四時五分至五時四時四分七月一日上午九時至十時"},{"start":6352.008,"end":6353.21,"text":"第十七次會議制度決定確定第21159案"},{"start":6366.707,"end":6386.896,"text":"均決定交互相關委員會審查或交互相關委員會第160至163案為內政委員會等所提出報告案第164案為行政院涵送本院委員提案之嚴處情形諮詢事項夾行政院答案部分一件以本院委員執行部分三件討論事項第一案之第三案"},{"start":6387.662,"end":6402.101,"text":"均決議通過其他事項依本次會議設置成照台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過後製委員會抽出政務奧圖提議民進黨黨團一案國民黨黨團二案均予以通過宣讀完畢"},{"start":6403.223,"end":6426.983,"text":"報議會針對第三會期第十八次會議的議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處我們現在做以下決定第三會期第十八次會議議事錄確定報議會現在進行處理增列部分請宣讀第一案第一案本院委員鄭天才等十八人離去個人資料保護委員會組織法草案議事處一件交司法及法治經濟兩委員會審查宣讀完畢"},{"start":6429.531,"end":6431.734,"text":"請問議員會有無異議?沒有異議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商我們下一案"},{"start":6446.977,"end":6469.834,"text":"第二案 本院委員徐欣盈等17人離聚 天然氣試驗法第15條條維修戰草案 依時處理監教經濟委員會審查 宣讀完畢全院會有異議 名義通過下案第三案 本院委員洪孟凱等17人離聚 運動產業發生條例第26條條維修戰草案 依時處理監教教育及文化委員會審查 宣讀完畢全院會有異議 名義通過下案"},{"start":6470.236,"end":6494.985,"text":"第四案 本院委員黃傑等二十一人離去詐欺犯罪危害房屍條例第四十六條及第四十七條條維修政策案議事處一件交內政委員會審查 宣讀外邊請議會有異 面議通過下議案第五案 本院委員蘇強慧等二十二人離去詐欺犯罪危害房屍條例第四十六條及第四十七條條維修政策案議事處一件交內政委員會審查 宣讀外邊請議會有異 面議通過下議案"},{"start":6495.748,"end":6516.126,"text":"第六案 本一位委員賴瑞榮的十六項理據 道路交通管理處罰條例第21條條文修正草案 議事處一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢第七案 本一位委員賴瑞榮的十七項理據 老年農民福利津貼專行條例第二條及第四條條文修正草案 議事處一間交社會福利及衛生環境經濟內政三委員會審查 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6521.035,"end":6544.755,"text":"第八案 本月委員賴銳龍等19人的離聚 外國專業人才也攬及僱用法修正草案 依釋處一間交經濟社會福利及衛生環境教育及文化商務委員會審查 宣讀外幣第九案 本月委員范雲等16人的離聚 外國專業人才也攬及僱用法部門調維修正草案 依釋處一間交經濟社會福利及衛生環境教育及文化商務委員會審查 宣讀外幣"},{"start":6546.016,"end":6567.572,"text":"第十案 本院台灣民眾腦膜團理局勞動基準法第37條條文修正草案依次處理監交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢依通過下一案第十一案 本院台灣民眾腦膜團理局障隙犯罪危害防水條例第46條及第47條條文修正草案依次處理監交內政委員會審查宣讀完畢依通過"},{"start":6572.369,"end":6589.376,"text":"報告委員會本次會議的報告事項記載於議事錄順序授權議事處進行調整現在我們繼續處理原列報告事項請宣讀第二案第二案 本院員郭玉琴等17人連續運動產業方針條例第13條第26條及第26條之二條維修正常案議事處一間交召及文化委員會審查宣讀完畢請議員會有異議 沒異議通過下一案"},{"start":6598.476,"end":6620.468,"text":"第三案 本月元徐富奎等18日離聚 外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第14條條文修正草案 依次處理監教經濟社會福利及文化環境教育及文化商務委員會審查 宣讀完畢第四案 本月元徐富奎等18日離聚 運動產業發展條例第26條之二條文修正草案 依次處理監教教育及文化委員會審查 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6621.508,"end":6637.757,"text":"第五案本幼兒園徐富回等隨期人離聚道路交通管理處罰條例第七十九條條維修政策案議事處一間交交通委員會審查宣布完畢第六案本幼兒園林月琴等十八人離聚身心障礙者請以保障法的部分條維修政策案"},{"start":6638.217,"end":6638.838,"text":"委員會審查委員會審查委員會審查委員會審查"},{"start":6655.433,"end":6683.034,"text":"第八案 本院委員林一景等十倍救人理據立法委員行為法第七條條文修正草案議事處一間交互司法及法治委員會審查 宣讀完畢第九案 本院委員林思明等十七人理據人工智慧基本法草案議事處一間交互消費及文化交通兩務委員會審查 宣讀完畢第十案 本院委員陳金輝拟撤回前提之公民投票不再及投票法草案案議事處一間李啟元會同意撤回 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6684.375,"end":6711.457,"text":"第十一案本院委員陳慶輝拟撤回前提之總統副總統選舉罷免法第十三條條維修正採完案議事處委員您請用會同意撤回宣讀完畢無異通過下議案第十二案本院委員陳慶輝拟撤回前提之公職委員選舉罷免法第十七條條維修正採完案議事處委員您請用會同意撤回宣讀完畢無異通過下議案第十三案內政部海外修正界標管理辦法議事處委員交內政委員會宣讀完畢無異通過下議案"},{"start":6711.897,"end":6725.367,"text":"第十四案 國防部海維修正志願實兵詢詢實施辦法第四條條文 議事處一件交外交及國防委員會 宣讀完畢第十五案 經濟部海維修正用戶用電飾備裝飾規則 議事處一件交經濟委員會 宣讀完畢第十六案 經濟部海維修正瀕臨絕種動質物質物種副表3 議事處一件交經濟委員會 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6735.754,"end":6754.229,"text":"第十七案 農業部函送農業水利申請許可案件 規費收費標準 一致處理兼交經濟委員會 宣讀完畢第十八案 農業部還未修正公告 美國德拉瓦州 北卡羅萊納州 維吉尼亞州為高邊緣性價錢流失性感冒犯疫區 一致處理兼交經濟委員會 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6755.43,"end":6780.302,"text":"第十九案 農業部海維修正輸入英師檢疫物檢疫準則第十七條附件十五之二一是處理監交經濟委員會 宣讀完畢未通過效應第二十案 金總監督管理委員會海維修正發行人募集與發行有價證券處理準則部分條文即第十二條附表五之附表七附表十之附表十二第七十二條附表三十二一是處理監交財政委員會 宣讀完畢未通過效應"},{"start":6780.842,"end":6801.847,"text":"第二十一案 金融監督管理委員會 海文修正 期貨商負責人及業務員管理規則 第八條 第十一條及第十三條條文等六項法規依次處理監交財政委員會 宣讀完畢第二十二案 金融監督管理委員會 海文修正 銀行辦理延伸性金融商品業務內部作業制度及程序管理辦法 第二十九條之一條文"},{"start":6802.447,"end":6828.623,"text":"議事處一間交財政委員會 宣讀完畢第二十三案金融監督管理委員會 海運修正證券商設置標準第三條第十一條條文證券商管理規則第四十五條之一條文及證券商負責任與業務人員管理規則第二十一條之一條文議事處一間交財政委員會 宣讀完畢第二十四案金融監督管理委員會 中央銀行海運修正國際保險業務分公司管理辦法第九條及第十五條條文"},{"start":6829.343,"end":6856.241,"text":"第一次處理監教財政委員會宣讀完畢第二十五案財政部海外修正自由貿易港區貨物通關管理辦法部分條文第一次處理監教財政委員會宣讀完畢第二十六案教育部海外修正教保服務機構不適任人員認定通報資訊搜集查詢處理利用及違法實行通報辦法第八條及第九條條文第一次處理監教教育及文化委員會宣讀完畢第二十五案"},{"start":6856.661,"end":6876.963,"text":"第27案 教育部涵送本院修正学生辅导法部分条文通过附带举议第9项书面报告 议事处理监教教育及文化委员会宣读完毕第28案 中央研究院海外修正 中央研究院评议会会议规则及中央研究院院长领选办法 议事处理监教教育及文化委员会宣读完毕"},{"start":6877.904,"end":6900.934,"text":"第二十九案 文化部海文修正文化藝術講述及促進條例適應性則第六條條文一事處理監教及文化委員會 宣言完畢第三十二案 交通部海文修正桃園航空自由貿易港區收費標準第一條第二條及第三條條文一事處理監教交通委員會 宣言完畢第三十一案 交通部海文修正鐵路行程規則部分條文"},{"start":6901.354,"end":6903.795,"text":"無意通過下言無意通過下言無意通過下言"},{"start":6924.4,"end":6938.534,"text":"第34案 交通部原住民組委員會行為修正觀光地區與風景特地區及自然人文生態景觀區觀光保育法及收取辦法第6條條文議事處一間交交通內政兩委員會宣言完畢"},{"start":6939.955,"end":6962.498,"text":"第三十五案 防務部金融監督管理委員會數位發言部 涵為洗錢防治法第十五條之二第六項 帳戶帳號暫停限制功能或禁語關閉管理辦法名稱修正為洗錢防治法第二十二條第六項 帳戶帳號暫停限制功能或禁語關閉管理辦法並修正條文 依次處意建交司法及法制裁券交通三委員會 宣言完畢"},{"start":6964.019,"end":6988.445,"text":"第36案 法務部函送檢察官助理 零用訓練業務管理及考核辦法 議事處意見交司法及法治委員會 宣傳完畢第37案 勞動部函回修正勞資遵義法律及生活費用輔助辦法部分條文 議事處意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會 宣傳完畢報告委員會本案由國民黨團體改交審查 本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 下一案"},{"start":6989.915,"end":7010.889,"text":"第三十八案 衛生福利部海外修正全民健康保險醫療服務及服務項目及支付標準部分轉療項目並自一百十四年五月一日宣秀議事處意見交社會福利及物質環境委員會宣讀完畢報告 院會本案由國民黨團體改交審查本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查下案"},{"start":7011.363,"end":7033.973,"text":"第39案 環境部還未修正物品或其包裝容器及其應付回收清除處理責任之業者範圍公告事項第十二章 議事處意見交社會福利及外向環境委員會宣讀完畢無異議通過 包園會更正37案無異議通過現在第40案至第74案請依序宣讀"},{"start":7035.208,"end":7054.592,"text":"其中第40至46至55台灣民眾黨團體改交審查宣讀之後我們以上提案均改交相關委員會審查其餘的議案均照議事處意見通過請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們開始宣讀宣讀之後通過請宣讀"},{"start":7057.301,"end":7077.949,"text":"第40案 經濟部第44案 文化部第45案 交通部第47案 數位發展部第48案 勞動部第49案 環境部第50案 內政部第51案 農業部第52案 客家委員會第53案 國家通訊全部委員會第54案 財政部第55案 教育部第56案 經濟部第58案 中央銀行"},{"start":7081.75,"end":7105.626,"text":"第六二案 即第六三案 國家科學及技術委員會第六四案 則第六六案 交通部第六七案 勞動部第六八案 則第七一案 衛生福利部第七二案 則第七四案 原住民組委員會含為各年度相關預算113年度中央政府準算附屬單位預算114年度中央政府準算等預算決議分別檢送相關報告宣讀完畢"},{"start":7108.528,"end":7132.509,"text":"我們現在更正剛才報告事項第39案由國民黨黨團體改交審查第39案改交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查我們第75案以下一併宣讀之後除第78案同意展延審查期限之外其餘個案我們均准予被查請宣讀"},{"start":7133.376,"end":7162.421,"text":"第七五案 為本院外交及國防委員會函為院會交付處理全務委員會114年度中央政府總元帥決議等案液晶處理文具第七八案為本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會函為院會交付審查商會行政命令已於立法院職權行使法第61條鎖定審查期限諮詢式上行政院答覆部分行政院橫送本院王委員、美會等所提諮詢之書面答覆共三件"},{"start":7162.981,"end":7168.643,"text":"宣傳完畢報告事項已處理完畢我們後續討論事項之進行有待溝通請各黨團幹部於10點45分更正10點40分我們進到議場後面主席辦公室進行溝通現在休息"},{"start":9483.697,"end":9508.704,"text":"抱怨會現在我們繼續開會現有黨團共事一 今日星期五院會抽出動議之處理各黨團無異議 照案通過二 本日院會處理之討論事項第四案完畢之後即休息三 討論事項第一案大體討論不發言 近乎二讀交付協商"},{"start":9509.753,"end":9534.029,"text":"四 討論事項第二案大體討論台灣民眾黨團推派一位民進黨團推派三位國民黨團推派三位輪流交叉發言每人發言時間三分鐘發言完畢進行淨複二讀提議之表決五 討論事項第三案大體討論不發言淨複二讀交付協商"},{"start":9538.206,"end":9566.402,"text":"六 討論事項第四案院會進行處理時廣泛討論由台灣民眾黨黨團推派一位民進黨黨團推派三位國民黨團推派三位輪流交叉發言每人發言時間三分鐘發言完畢之後逐條討論時各黨團均不再發言並依各黨團版本提出先後進行表決及處理"},{"start":9567.771,"end":9597.26,"text":"七 下星期二 院會僅處理討論事項第五案不需協商議案 處理完畢之後 即行散會本院院會後續 就依黨團共事來進行本院院會我們在進行討論事項之前先處理自委員會抽出禁覆二讀之提議現在處理國民黨團提供議案 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到香港的時候還讓自己的人被抓走這個叫做沒有證據嗎你們擋國安法案擋了400多次這個叫做沒有證據嗎你們今天做了離島建設條例想要讓金門馬祖以後變成一國兩制的示範區為這個來鋪路請問這個叫做沒有證據嗎你們提出六改是提出了三次要來開放大量的中國移民請問這個叫做沒有證據嗎"},{"start":11676.192,"end":11681.42,"text":"要把台灣跟中國之間的爭執還有戰爭把它定義成內戰的關係請問這個叫做沒有證據嗎請問你們在院會的時候擋國防預算這個叫做沒有證據嗎"},{"start":11691.004,"end":11695.547,"text":"你們的這個我們現在特別條例1500億 整整1500億針對我們的海巡 針對我們的資安 針對我們的國防儲備全部砍到零 1500億砍到零這樣叫做沒有危害國防 沒有危害國安的證據嗎"},{"start":11710.938,"end":11735.233,"text":"證據那麼多從頭到尾在破壞的在造成台灣國安危機的不就是你們嗎結果跟一個完全沒有法律根據只為了做政治操作的提案讓我們現在在這邊要為這個發言到底什麼時候立法院才能夠回歸正常 謝謝好 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中東投入人你被紅錢養大還敢在那邊大言不慚你在底下抗議什麼有什麼好抗議中國猴熊你才是要問問自己照你的標準有沒有裡應外合謝謝好 謝謝謝謝"},{"start":11939.827,"end":11955.934,"text":"抱怨會謝謝各黨團推派代表已經發言完畢現有台灣民眾黨團提進夫二讀以黨團共識進行表決我們現在開始按鈴7分鐘分發表決卡現在開始按鈴"},{"start":12380.114,"end":12394.822,"text":"好 報告院會我們剛開始進行表決每位委員表決卡都有拿到手好 現在我們開始針對台灣民眾黨黨團提議禁服二讀進行表決現有民進黨團台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨黨團提議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":12479.434,"end":12497.387,"text":"報應會報告表決結果在場出席委員109位贊成60位反對49位贊成者多數台灣民眾黨黨團提議照案通過本案禁覆二讀依照立法院職權新司法第74條之一規定"},{"start":12500.475,"end":12518.548,"text":"交付黨團協商我們先來做以下決議本案交付黨團協商並由台灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商外援會陳穎委員發表聲明對剛才表決與民進黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄"},{"start":12520.639,"end":12537.332,"text":"黃建斌委員發表聲明對剛才表決與國民黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄歡迎各位我們現在進入討論事項第三案本院台灣民眾黨團建請院會決議對行政院院長卓榮泰院長提出最嚴厲之譴責案"},{"start":12539.193,"end":12552.558,"text":"並要求行政院禁訴將提名之國家傳播通訊委員會主任委員副主任委員及委員名單送交立法院議案請議事人員宣讀提案內容"},{"start":12553.376,"end":12576.975,"text":"本院台湾民众党党团有鉴于行政院院长朱镕泰代呼职守从去113年11月起经屡次承诺提出国家通讯传播委员会委员名单却一再跳票更迟至本114年5月29日财政会前行政院院长陈建仁所提出国家通讯传播委员会委员名单"},{"start":12577.735,"end":12599.486,"text":"罔顾国家通讯传播委员会组织法第四条锁定行政院院长之提名责任更导致国家通讯传播委员会遭行政怠惰因而瘫痪严重影响传媒市场规范秩序及公众之失听权益原提案建请院会做成决议对行政院院长朱荣泰提出最严厉之谴责案"},{"start":12600.366,"end":12627.643,"text":"並要求行政院尽速将提名之国家通讯传播委员会主任委员副主任委员及委员名单送交立法院是否有道进行公决宣读完毕好 报告院会依照立法院职权新司法第八条第三项之规定本案经提案人说明提案子去大体讨论之后即议决交付审查或进复而如或不予审议"},{"start":12633.51,"end":12638.794,"text":"我們請提案黨團台灣民眾黨黨團代表林國成委員說明提案子去院長各位各黨的委員台灣民眾黨"},{"start":12661.616,"end":12675.393,"text":"提了譴責行政院卓榮泰造謠抹黑然後欺騙台灣人民過去的行政院長"},{"start":12677.079,"end":12693.61,"text":"卓榮泰的時候為人值得我尊敬可是當了院長以後不但會胡說八道然後會騙台灣人民說謊話的院長所以我感覺"},{"start":12695.562,"end":12717.384,"text":"對他非常失望那今天台灣民眾黨提出這個案子也可以形容行政院長卓榮泰上任以來行政怠惰違背承諾嚴重影響整個政務的推展"},{"start":12718.373,"end":12735.049,"text":"大家都知道卓榮泰面對NCC委員的缺額問題多次公開承諾競速補足沒想到街二連三欺騙台灣人民媒體訪問他說下個禮拜底"},{"start":12738.877,"end":12765.842,"text":"下個禮拜到已說下個禮拜提結果J203的欺騙老百姓這可以凸顯一個問題到底是單純的疏忽或者他的怠惰我可以給大家一個答案這叫做他政府的怠惰某是整個正常制度的運作大家都知道NCC"},{"start":12767.23,"end":12784.708,"text":"他是一個主管媒體通信政策以及頻道管理是一個獨立單位提名前是在行政院長可是萬萬沒有想到一個行政院長應該是要迅速"},{"start":12786.104,"end":12802.031,"text":"合乎規定趕快提人選可是現在只有三位 缺少一位如果你行政院長不是故意怠惰就是什麼 細意要毀掉整個政策"},{"start":12802.691,"end":12821.521,"text":"所以我是覺得我特別跟行政院長講你如果真的不會做那你最起碼要先補題一個嘛把它四位以後就馬上可以變成四位可以開會我的認為就是你是行政怠惰"},{"start":12822.401,"end":12843.87,"text":"故意不提所以我們今天台灣民眾黨才提出這個譴責案我想這個譴責案不是為了台灣民眾黨是為了整個欺騙台灣人民欺騙台灣所有的關心NCC委員地府的問題"},{"start":12844.77,"end":12863.252,"text":"我在委員會我也一直在提出來盡快提出來我們不會反對我們一定會趕快審可是萬萬沒有想到我們院長他還是不提可是把這個問題架後在在野黨杯葛各位"},{"start":12864.073,"end":12882.087,"text":"天理何在這不是在野黨杯葛啊而是你行政院可以提而你不提我感覺到這是一個非常此風不可擋的一個行政院長最後我認為這是一個政治算計"},{"start":12883.467,"end":12901.852,"text":"只為了等待大罷免嗎不要這樣嘛 大罷免歸大罷免NCC的委員歸NCC的委員你為了要達到大罷免然後你這些你都不提我是看得非常難過所以我覺得啦 我覺得台灣民眾黨"},{"start":12903.032,"end":12922.584,"text":"要求盡快提出NCC委員真的你找不到四個人你最起碼補一個嘛讓NCC正常有四個委員可以去正常運作這才是真正行政院長要做的事千萬不要再告訴別人"},{"start":12923.204,"end":12943.264,"text":"是在野黨反對我們鄭重我相信在野黨一定會來審NCC的委員所以希望各位委員今天面對這些人事的耽擱不是只有這一次所以台灣民眾黨迫於無奈提出譴責案我希望各位委員"},{"start":12945.347,"end":12956.703,"text":"來支持這個案我相信我們為了NCC正常的運作我相信不分黨派一定共同維護NCC正常的運作謝謝"},{"start":12960.389,"end":12978.197,"text":"謝謝林國成委員發言報告委員會我們依照黨團共識本案大體討論不再發言現由台灣民眾黨黨團提議禁覆二讀依黨團共識本案禁覆二讀依照立法案之間新司法第74條之一規定交付黨團協商我們現在作以下決議本案交付黨團協商並由台灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商"},{"start":12983.442,"end":13005.636,"text":"抱怨會我們進入討論事項第四案公平交易委員會組織法第四條及第十六條條文修正草案本案經第三會期第十七次會議決議協商後再行處理抱怨會本案因協商超過一個月無法達成共識依照立法院之間新法第七十一條之一規定由院會定期處理"},{"start":13006.516,"end":13027.492,"text":"因此於本次會議我們提出討論現在我們進行廣泛討論以黨團共識台灣民眾黨團推派一位民進黨團推派三位國民黨團推派三位輪流交叉發言每位發言時間三分鐘首先請莊瑞雄委員發言翁曉琳委員請準備"},{"start":13038.854,"end":13053.524,"text":"主席還有我們在場的媒體朋友公平會整個人事卡關這個很明顯社會大眾看到了政治的一個杯葛導致整個專業的一個停擺"},{"start":13055.049,"end":13075.496,"text":"我相信今天整個草案裡面草案人民會看到本來一個制度的一個設計在公平會裡面你原來的委員如果在新的委員還沒有產生出來以前要讓整個制度去繼續的一個運作所以本席要這邊提出來公平會的一個停擺"},{"start":13077.416,"end":13089.052,"text":"藍白委員要負最大的一個責任這個很明顯政黨的利益就凌駕在整個公共利益之上今天我要提出一個非常嚴肅的質疑"},{"start":13091.038,"end":13106.311,"text":"官民會委員的一個任命案啊它到底是一個法治的一個機制啊還是我們在野黨你的政治上的一個人質啊不能因為一句反對然後讓整個機關全部去做一個停擺"},{"start":13107.611,"end":13121.218,"text":"各位想想看 龔平輝的委員走了 新任的卡著然後整個委員會人數不足 開不了會那你做不了決議 讓整個國家這樣的一個機關 鬧笑話"},{"start":13124.265,"end":13134.929,"text":"鬧笑話還不打緊啊各位把它想想看把整個機關為了卡一個人然後卡到最後整個審議的一個系統斷電這是毀掉一個機關啊這是把整個機關的一個運作讓它斷了根"},{"start":13139.831,"end":13162.055,"text":"國民會涉及到整個經濟的一個秩序產業的競爭還有消費者的一個保護那今天呢我們總不能說在野黨的委員你看哪個名字你就不順眼一句話他的一個反對讓整個市場的一個秩序啊讓他當機啊各位默默良心想想看啊聯合漲價誰來處理然後呢整個市場壟斷"},{"start":13170.335,"end":13177.583,"text":"誰來做最後的一個審查甚至於呢我們只因為我們整個政黨的一個鬥爭"},{"start":13180.053,"end":13197.532,"text":"讓制度沒有辦法這樣的一個延續到底是這個國家誰賺到任何好處在野黨的朋友難道這樣的一個人事上的一個卡關你提出來說只要沒有通過的話就任的全部都走掉那我要請問 這一些問題我們原來設計的一個制度"},{"start":13201.957,"end":13220.872,"text":"就是在防堵因為政黨之間的一個惡鬥讓整個機關可以繼續的一個運作讓整個市場可以維持它一個穩定性但我們很遺憾今天藍白這樣聯手提出這樣一個法案這簡直是造孽"},{"start":13239.128,"end":13263.059,"text":"院長還有在座的各位委員大家好我們知道公平教育委員會它是維護產業市場秩序和消費者權益的重要機關面對全球競爭的日益激烈市場結構快速變遷我們更應該要保證確保公平教育委員會的運作能夠真正符合公平專業獨立的三大核心價值"},{"start":13264.119,"end":13284.134,"text":"首先我們必須要強調公平會的委員應該要具備高度的專業素養以及政策判斷的能力要在執行職務的時候堅守政治中立避免受到不當的干預唯有真正的獨立的時候才能夠有效的監督市場競爭以及保障消費者的權益"},{"start":13284.955,"end":13312.64,"text":"并且防止垄断以及不当交易的行为然而目前的公平交易委员会的委员任期制度仍然存在值得检讨的地方最明显的问题就是公平会委员的任期设计缺乏明确的限制导致可能会发生万年委员的现象这不仅不利于新观念的注入更可能会让机关沦为少数人垄断意志的场所我们在这边主张"},{"start":13313.78,"end":13342.787,"text":"公平會應該要比照這個其他的獨立機關像是這個NCC的模式建立明確的任期制度規定委員一任就是四年最長只能做八年那麼而且不得再任這樣的制度設計不僅能夠保留經驗與延續性也能夠促進組織的新陳代謝確保多元觀點可以進入到決策體系那麼其次我們也徵收規定"},{"start":13343.567,"end":13360.493,"text":"要求當公平會會委員出缺的時候或者是新提名的委員沒有通過立法院同意的時行政院院長應該在三個月內進度的補提名而且委員的任期屆滿後就應該要立即卸任不可以再繼續的連任"},{"start":13362.759,"end":13384.999,"text":"本席認為一個健全的監理機構應該要具備定期更新人事制度才能夠帶來新的治理思維以及與時俱進的政策方向更重要的是這樣的制度還能夠避免長期由特地人馬來主導讓公平會能夠成為真正多元公正透明的守門人"},{"start":13385.76,"end":13408.682,"text":"最后我们也期待公平会在制度上面能够不断的革新让它能够在维护市场秩序的同时也能够成为国家治理品质提升的重要象征唯有制度透明用人是才公平会才能够真正扮演台湾市场竞争正义的重要守护者以上谢谢"},{"start":13410.499,"end":13411.64,"text":"剛剛民進黨的莊瑞雄委員竟然說公平會這個委員卡關啊"},{"start":13437.014,"end":13451.142,"text":"上次我們開了審查會洪才榮因為前年病大增發案有要求前年每年要捐3億給西洋旗協會"},{"start":13453.083,"end":13471.076,"text":"就被刷掉了李美主委被刷掉了已經三個月了行政院長卓榮泰到現在還沒有提名是行政院長卡關了癱瘓了公平會請民進黨看清楚不要造謠今天"},{"start":13472.622,"end":13492.498,"text":"台灣民眾黨提的重點修正的重點是第一個要避免萬年的這個委員說我們要求任滿只能連任一次已經是連任者不得夠再任第二個如果有任何缺額行政院長要在三個月內補提名另外啦"},{"start":13493.652,"end":13513.012,"text":"行政院一直在拖延目前的法令是說本法實施日期是由行政院去定結果他們一直在拖延所以我們現在把它改成本法修正條文公佈至實行所以請莊瑞熊跟民進黨立委你們做重視公平會的這個功能請趕快要求"},{"start":13514.249,"end":13531.696,"text":"卓榮泰趕快補提名兩席的公平會委員包括主委不要再造謠也不要繼續卡關不要再癱瘓公平會另外民進黨啊在外交部在國安會在總統府養共諜"},{"start":13534.6,"end":13553.896,"text":"養共帝的吳釗燮到現在神隱了而且還三步不只不道歉不說明也不下台今天民眾黨清楚的提出要求他負起政治責任而且不要變成是一個國安的破口民進黨竟然可以上來捍衛吳釗燮"},{"start":13556.957,"end":13585.814,"text":"捍衛共諜剛剛紅孩兒沈伯陽還敢上來罵人沈伯陽說你爸爸沈伯伯到大陸去賺紅錢你自己講的你說任何兩岸交流都是統戰別人去就是統戰紅孩兒你為什麼這樣嚴重的一個雙標為什麼這樣嚴重一個雙標別人去是被統戰結果你去就是一個正常的這麼嚴重的一個雙標更重要的"},{"start":13588.506,"end":13615.314,"text":"賴清德賴總統的第五講要講外交我們就看賴清德的第五講怎麼清楚的交代民進黨在外交部養共諜為什麼吳釗燮現在是國安會的秘書長不只沒有說明到現在沒有處理我們好好看賴清德的第五講好 謝謝"},{"start":13618.509,"end":13644.399,"text":"謝謝張旗凱委員發言各位委員拜託一下我們下面還有其他委員發言請尊重發言委員權益好嗎拜託一下我們現在接下來請鍾嘉斌委員請發言"},{"start":13653.615,"end":13674.206,"text":"主席委員先進本院我們是依法論法就事論事不要一張口就是造謠我們希望今天的討論我們就針對公民教育委員會的組織法第十條跟第十六條現在又出現了一個修正動議跟再修正動議在場哪位委員可以告訴我們修正動議跟再修正動議的差異在哪裡"},{"start":13675.466,"end":13697.679,"text":"剛剛我們的專委員說這個NCC之前不斷電條款被藍白聯手廢止後現在NCC視同停擺視同癱瘓很多重要的事情沒辦法處理但是同樣的不斷電條款三個獨立機關除了NCC之外還有公平會公平會在處理什麼事情呢公平會斷電有什麼嚴重呢我唸個幾個給大家聽"},{"start":13699.46,"end":13722.123,"text":"公平會在討論市場的秩序併購WhoPanda跟UberEat併購這個事情公平會不能斷電愛妮雅不當銷售裁罰案公平會不能斷電我們看到了公平會同意展延六家事業河川進口玉米的聯合行為五年這個不能斷電這都是民生議題修關的再來講一個大的啦"},{"start":13724.172,"end":13745.823,"text":"台新淨控跟新光淨控心心病萬一公平會斷電了沒有辦法行使職權了重大的經營順序受到破壞那麼藍白立委所提出來的將第四條當中的不斷電條款比照NCC的拿掉之後會對我們社會造成什麼衝擊大家有沒有去想一下"},{"start":13746.854,"end":13767.179,"text":"更好笑的是原來在NCC跟公民會第16條都講很清楚本法實行日期由行政院以命令定之似乎藍白對於為什麼我們通過的修正法案要由行政院命令定之不太了解事實上在去年討論NCC的時候我們有講過"},{"start":13768.879,"end":13795.756,"text":"舉凡這些涉及到眾多行政機關的協調我們要交由行政院來定定它的施行日期以便協調統合各行政機關的裁量司法院的法律也有以司法院以命令定之的但是自從NCC這個以命令定之改成什麼改成自中華民國千年千月千日修正條文自公布這件事情之後我們很清楚"},{"start":13796.756,"end":13812.496,"text":"國民黨要的將NCC不斷電條款拿掉的這個就必須馬上實施公布就實施但是今天的再修正動議他做了一個蠢事他把那個圈年圈月圈的拿掉之後呢就疑慮第二項一"},{"start":13813.325,"end":13837.762,"text":"公佈日日施行那請問前面的第一項本法施行日期由行政院以命令定之形同虛設大家知道嗎以後只要公平會組織法來修正修正的條文不分清黃色照牌一律公佈日施行請問這樣的立法例是誰發明的請哪一位高明的民眾黨的委員來教我們一下"},{"start":13842.708,"end":13847.213,"text":"好 謝謝鍾嘉斌委員的發言接下來請葛獨鈞委員發言蔡議員請準備"},{"start":13859.332,"end":13887.082,"text":"主席 各位委員先進 大家好我們今天要談的是為何非休不可公平會是我國維護市場自由與公平競爭的守門人依設計應該要超然獨立然而現行制度讓委員可以無限次的被重新提名而且如果行政院院長遲遲不送交新的名單現任委員還可以延任到新任就職的前一天"},{"start":13888.283,"end":13902.364,"text":"這條俗稱萬年條款的規定使得四年任期形同虛設權力長期集中獨立性勢必被質疑同時也讓立法院的同意權也就失去了實質意義"},{"start":13903.726,"end":13922.939,"text":"我們接著來看比較法的問題同樣屬於獨立機關的國家通訊傳播委員會NCC已在去年完成體質調整委員連任一次及封頂並刪除延任條款如果發生缺額行政院需在三個月內補提名"},{"start":13923.8,"end":13935.431,"text":"正珠經驗明確實成與任期上限不但沒有削弱專業反而提升了公信力公平會肩負更廣泛的競爭議題制度設計理當應該與NCC同級甚至更加嚴謹"},{"start":13941.636,"end":13966.048,"text":"再來我們從憲政角度出發如果行政院可以提名而又不提名任由委員延任也就形成了憲政真空立法權 行政權與獨立機關三者之間的制衡也就被架空刪除延任條款 卸任期 設補提名時程是確保責任政治的最低門檻"},{"start":13967.449,"end":13981.48,"text":"同時邁入數位經濟的時代公平會的角色更加關鍵生成式AI資料平台演算法的商業模式這些新興產業同時帶來效率以及排他的風險"},{"start":13982.501,"end":14008.344,"text":"未來我們既然要防止大型平台利用資料競爭的優勢來壟斷也必須應該要讓創新的團隊能夠在公開資料上孵化創意而不是重刑伺候公民會如果缺乏定期汰換以及跨領域的專業將難以在守護競爭以及促進創新之間取得平衡"},{"start":14009.305,"end":14025.431,"text":"綜上所述我們提出三大修法的重點支持第一委員連任一次就應該要停止避免形成終身委員第二刪除延任條款防止行政怠惰或政治操作"},{"start":14025.991,"end":14039.948,"text":"第三 設三個月補提名實現 確保機關不中斷為台灣建立守護競爭 促進創新的雙引擎懇請跨黨派的委員都應該要一起支持草案 謝謝好 謝謝葛如君委員的質詢"},{"start":14045.987,"end":14057.836,"text":"報告委員會提醒一下所有的委員最後一位登記發言的蔡議員發言三分鐘之後我們將進行表決處理所有的委員請儘速回到議場現在我們請蔡議員請發言"},{"start":14071.598,"end":14085.406,"text":"主席 各位同仁今天因為要處理公平教育委員會的組織法的修法原本我以為今天要處理特別條例那臨時說要處理公平教育委員會組織法所以"},{"start":14086.718,"end":14106.091,"text":"我要來做今天的發言 我也想說這樣臨時要準備我主要想說 我就來問checkGDP比較快所以我現在來做checkGDP的發言人 他就說得很清楚我輸入說 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謝謝歡迎我們現在進行逐條討論依照黨團共識本案僅宣讀院會所收各黨團再修正動議版本其餘提案內容均列入公報記錄"},{"start":14285.271,"end":14297.669,"text":"各黨團版本進行表決時我們依送案先後進行表決如有一案通過我們即不再處理其他案現在進行第四條請宣讀"},{"start":14300.049,"end":14325.612,"text":"台灣民眾黨 黨團 國民黨黨團碰頭庭案在修正動議第四條本會智委員七人均為專任任期四年任滿得連任一次以連任者不得再任本會委員由行政院長提名經立法院同意後任命之行政院院長為任命時應指定一人為主任委員一人為副主任委員本會主任委員特任"},{"start":14326.332,"end":14346.537,"text":"對外代表本會副主任委員職務比照檢任第十四職等其餘委員職務比照檢任第十三職等本法實行時如現任委員任期尚未屆滿由現任委員擔任之期任期屆滿為止不受前項任期及任命方式之限制行政院院長應與委員任命"},{"start":14347.057,"end":14365.254,"text":"任满三个月前依第一项程序提名新任委员委员出缺时其届任委员之任期至原任期届满之日为止如因立法院不同意或出缺至委员人数未达组合时行政院院长应于三个月内补足提名"},{"start":14365.914,"end":14381.286,"text":"本法實行後除此提名之委員除主將委員、副主任委員外其中三位委員任期二年不受第一項任期之限制本會委員具有同一黨籍者不得超過委員總額二分之一宣讀完畢"},{"start":14384.175,"end":14392.178,"text":"好 報告委員會 我們現在開始進行表決臺灣民眾黨黨團 國民黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文現有民進黨 臺灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始"},{"start":14480.83,"end":14497.622,"text":"報議會報告表決結果在場委員出席108位贊成60位反對48位贊成者多數第四條照台灣民眾黨團國民黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過現在進行第16條請宣讀"},{"start":14500.165,"end":14512.314,"text":"台湾民众党党团 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