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謝謝我徵詢一下在場委員的意見啦因為83條之七狀況是這樣啦就我們在委員會的時候其實已經接近是有共識的狀態嘛那我們請這個相關的部會跟高清素美委員跟我們原住民各委員在座溝通之後其實是比較容易達成共識的所以我徵求一下在場委員的意見我們先從83條之七開始協商可以嗎好那大家手上有高清委員的再修正動議嗎"},{"start":2436.451,"end":2443.614,"text":"上面有寫1140602 9點53分的這個再修正動議或者是這一本議案關係文書的第71頁有列進去嘛 再修正動議嘛對不對好 請張宏祿召委"},{"start":2457.014,"end":2472.02,"text":"那天我們大家都講得很清楚了啦就是只有文字的調整嘛對不對財政部有沒有來 如果OK的話我們就這樣子啊來 財政部 阮政次有問題嗎 按照再修正動議的條文來處理"},{"start":2489.552,"end":2511.79,"text":"因為這邊高金委員在提的再修正東翼這部分上次討論以後基本上大家都有共識相關有意見的委員我們就也跟他們溝通大概都同意基本上都贊同所以我們對這個案子我們是尊重貴院的大院寫上的結論"},{"start":2514.073,"end":2527.031,"text":"好 謝謝我們阮政務次長請問在場委員跟相關的官員有沒有意見要補充的針對八十三條之七高軍宿美委員等提的再修正動議請問大家有想法或意見要補充嗎好 請劉仕旺部長"},{"start":2528.809,"end":2550.956,"text":"不好意思我想不是屬於那個法議裡面的部分就是在83條之7的第二項裡面直轄市改制前各該山地鄉這個我們有問題因為改制直轄市之前叫山地鄉但是改制成直轄市之後叫山地原住民區所以剛剛的那個文字上面用寫的這部分寫"},{"start":2551.496,"end":2571.579,"text":"即改制後原個該山地鄉市權已由直轄市辦理之經費這個部分的話呢就是要不要在修正動議條文裡面的說明再說明清楚那這樣子我們在未來要配合的部分尤其是在民政單位配合比較好處理"},{"start":2573.728,"end":2601.548,"text":"好 謝謝劉思芳部長的補充 真的非常仔細齁我重新念一下這個83條之7的第二點啦齁如果照 我只覺得條文直接修正就好啦直接來調整嘛 我們把它變成我重新念一次 直轄市改制前前 各該三地鄉前三年度總預算稅出平均數扣除上級政府額外補助之平均數及改制後各該三地原住民區市權已由直轄市辦理之經費好不好"},{"start":2602.589,"end":2628.4,"text":"文字上做一下這樣的調整可以嗎好 請問各位有意見嗎沒有好那我們就照來我們再看一下螢幕啊我們為求周延好不好我們看一下螢幕螢幕看一個啦螢幕看一個好我們祖民哭一直哭啦哭啦 變成哭啦對啦想到現在哭他請祖民了啦"},{"start":2635.253,"end":2659.324,"text":"就是說文字修正通過啊好不好對就在說明裡面給他做這個說明一下就好了我們直接修條文好還是修說明就好我覺得修條文直接把它講清楚會不會有問題說明裡面吧因為這是這個再修正動議版我請教一下議事可以再調整嗎因為已經是再修正動議了可不可以調整"},{"start":2661.204,"end":2671.381,"text":"對 文字內容可不可以調整今天協商還是可以調整協商還是可以調整啦 好不好那我們在場委員簽個名啦 好不好 這樣比較簡單 好不好好好 今天我們在場的委員蘇銘先生好 好 卵市長有請"},{"start":2676.796,"end":2690.443,"text":"跟各位委員報告還有主席那個原來的文字高經委員的原文字是說改制後原各該山地相得他有原這個字是吧對那如果說所以剛剛那個"},{"start":2691.804,"end":2693.345,"text":"其實劉部長講的是有道理 可是你看他喔"},{"start":2712.037,"end":2738.835,"text":"我們的條文裡面第一次向他有其他相關因素他後面已經寫了由直轄市恰商山地原住民區定資他的法令的前後是要定義那個之前的原住民鄉但他最後已經有寫原住民區所以大家要想清楚沒有就這樣因為他本來是多一個原嘛"},{"start":2740.12,"end":2751.203,"text":"即改字後原各三地鄉嘛但是因為你既然已經把文字修正成三地原住民區嘛就把原字字拿掉嘛你改字後各三地原住民區市權等等等等後面一樣嘛如果是這樣子勒"},{"start":2752.79,"end":2769.055,"text":"不是啦不是啦這樣意識會不一樣嗎好沒關係這樣意識就不一樣囉這樣意識就跟原來的不一樣好那我們再討論一下沒有關係報告昭偉不同這個我同意那個剛剛鴻祿昭偉所說的因為在這個第四第四項裡面其他書那裡"},{"start":2771.796,"end":2796.565,"text":"呃 呃 由直轄市洽商3D原住民區已經有講了所以呢對 已經都說了所以其實文字其實不用修正對不對不用修正 不用修正意思是這樣對不對對好 對對對那我們在說明欄的部分我們再討論一下因為劉部長建議在說明欄的部分做一下清楚的說明也可以嘛 好不好可以啦那我們在說明欄的部分做補助可以嗎好 那我們就條文文字我們就還是照原來高金委員的再修正東西通過可以嗎"},{"start":2798.629,"end":2822.719,"text":"好謝謝那我們83條之7我們就這樣處理喔謝謝有達成共識感謝大家好那我們現在進入55跟56條我跟大家報告一下為例討論我們一樣把這個各個委員的版本做了統合那統一變成55跟56的再修正動議是由本席來提出的這個大家桌上應該有是114071112點55 56條的再修正動議我們就以這個為討論基礎好不好"},{"start":2828.547,"end":2834.169,"text":"那我們就一條一條來喔請問第55條的部分請問大家有問題嗎好 請來 55條 請問各黨員有意見嗎"},{"start":2849.762,"end":2874.699,"text":"有請 沒關係 看誰要講好 請黃婕委員好 那這個其實我們在委員會都表達過非常清楚的意見了就是六都之中其實人口的差異還是非常大如果要考慮公平性那或者是要有一定的指標的話我覺得認為是比較有參考性而不是一概的設為三人那這個也是要避免因人涉事啦所以我還是認為"},{"start":2875.98,"end":2892.578,"text":"這個我們在這邊恕難同意因為到目前為止也沒有一個好的理由來說服所有的人民說到底為什麼六都裡面所有的副市長都要設為三位而且各個六都裡面其實人口的差異非常大"},{"start":2893.038,"end":2920.937,"text":"那如果不用人口作為指標到底要用什麼作為指標這件事情在委員會我每一次都拿出來討論但是也都沒有獲得大家沒有很好的共識也都沒有一個可以說服人民的理由所以我還是認為如果不要變成說是因人受事不要因為說很像是蔣萬安條款那在這邊大家一定要更清楚的說明才可以說服大眾所以這一條我沒有辦法同意"},{"start":2922.079,"end":2946.349,"text":"好 謝謝 我們請陳玉珍委員其實這個第55條的再修正動議六都統一設置這個副市長三人這樣的修正更顯示出沒有因人設施因為這個不管哪一都我們現在六都以前有以前我記得台南那時候要升為直轄市的時候也是有一些這個因為很多其他的討論那時候反而是有"},{"start":2947.009,"end":2959.375,"text":"有因為 要生他的做一些改變不過這沒關係啦因為不管是 直銷市不管是人數多還是人數少這個繁雜程度是一樣的一樣會有那麼多的事情 就像中華民國現在2300萬人跟這個其他這個國家不同人"},{"start":2965.078,"end":2973.523,"text":"需要做的事情還是那麼多的更何況根據我國人口的統計從113年開始我們現在大概2340萬人但是博發會有報告從今年開始會進入負成長因為我們生不如死的關係所以會進入負成長那129年以後總人數就會下降成2100萬人那所以我們"},{"start":2989.133,"end":3005.251,"text":"最重要不要因人設施而要建立制度那所以就因為我們不知道哪一個都就是六都不管台北高雄台南哪裡會增加或減少說不定高雄會增很多人那台北說不定會下降因為也許我們政府特別注重南部高雄的人口會不會增加"},{"start":3006.172,"end":3023.429,"text":"有可能啦 世界發展不一樣 由西到東都有可能以前城市的發展重心在西邊 現在發展到東邊來嘛那到時候難道又因為這樣子 又把高雄高雄現在幾位 然後到時候再增加嗎那所以就乾脆統一 直轄市就統一三位因為"},{"start":3024.17,"end":3051.47,"text":"不管你是人多人少你的那個縣市政府要管理的事情還是一樣多的而且事情多的話縣長下面的副市長要分工以後才不會說一下人數如果多多一個市長他本來原來管公務一個管教育原來另外一個講說管財政那人又少的話財政下又要分給另外一個人就是這樣會很混亂為了這個施政上面最終的我們施政目的最終是要照顧老百姓的福祉所以建立制度最重要所以就是"},{"start":3052.19,"end":3064.036,"text":"六都我們就分成直轄市五十五條跟五十六條是一般縣市就直接就設定三人跟兩人這兩條是連動的大概是這個意思好謝謝陳玉珍委員好請王美惠委員主席在這裡我的意見我是覺得說剛才有很多我是還不能認同說很多人會負責任都一樣"},{"start":3081.465,"end":3083.647,"text":"跟你們都一樣的心 譬如說五十萬人和二十五萬人的福祉都兩個"},{"start":3091.567,"end":3101.09,"text":"你們不可以依靈靠所家庭的範圍去設定一下因為我的主張 我覺得說沒有他們在設定那些都是騙人的啦沒有什麼的充裕 不會去給這個六都會三的市長大家也知道要做什麼用的所以說 想一個法要改一個法的時候"},{"start":3119.856,"end":3127.099,"text":"要審慎評估 要講出真正需要的問題存在啦不是因為 拿什麼人去擺副市長的這樣不好啦 以上好 謝謝 請李某議員"},{"start":3136.37,"end":3157.062,"text":"還是表達一下這在委員會裡面其實我們也是一再的來提出來那剛剛可能非本委員會的委員他對於剛實在討論的內容有一些不太了解那現在重點就是說六都目前遇到人口會低於250萬現行250萬以下才會變成兩位副市長的這個條例要因為"},{"start":3163.806,"end":3182.402,"text":"台北市他的人口不達250萬那所以好我就大放送來修所有的直轄市我全部都設三個副市長講的是好聽啦事實上就是為了台北市所以我們還是覺得你現行的250萬沒有辦法達到"},{"start":3184.644,"end":3203.789,"text":"當初的設計就是為了包含這些人口比例等等我們都必須要去衡量的情況下現行上為了台北市人口不足250萬而去修訂讓每個直轄市有三個副市長我覺得這個我們還是要再多討論這是我們的意見跟我們的立場 謝謝"},{"start":3205.171,"end":3226.395,"text":"好謝謝李博弈委員我再做一個補充啦就之前我們在委員會其實也提過嘛就大部分人對於副市長也好副縣長也好的主要職能其實就是跨局處的協調嘛那其實不管人多人少大家在局處分配基本上都是滿邊的狀態換言之六都大家都有三十幾個局處啦三十幾個局處那縣市政府大概也都是二十幾個局處左右啦"},{"start":3226.775,"end":3255.674,"text":"那我們的意思是講說如果因為人口數量齁指甲是副市長有多有少那其他勤務分配是不太公平啦我們如果是從局處分配督導局處的角度跨局合作的角度其實多一點人力是有幫助的我想這是我們會之所以會主張統一標準的原因那第二個就是財政收支劃分法修正之後一定地方的市權會大幅增加啦那既然錢增加了人也要增加做的事也要增加我想這是大家都不會反對的方向好不好我想做一個補充我們現在請張榮路召委有請"},{"start":3258.296,"end":3273.041,"text":"我必須要說啦如果照大家我剛剛聽了這樣大家有不同的那個現在市長要幹嘛市長都不用做事啦都不用做事了嗎我想再做啦只有我當過市長"},{"start":3275.353,"end":3299.29,"text":"我覺得這不應該啦真的覺得不應該啦你有一個人口有一個這個你也讓這個當市長的人他有努力把他這個他這個地區建設的好那你的建設好人民就會去你那裡啊你是有多少人要做多少事情那你才去說有幾個副市長我認為這才是一個合理的"},{"start":3300.41,"end":3326.146,"text":"不然如果要這樣說五個不是更多人可以做事嗎五個副市長不是更好嗎 對不對那你要想一想喔如果以這樣的話我們新北市的人口我們新北市的面積哇 那多不公平啊我們新北也是叫你們比照三個人這是沒有一個衡量的標準我認為是不應該的啦你要去修這個"},{"start":3327.367,"end":3342.416,"text":"我也不反對但不能說不出一個理由然後就說要幾個要幾個所以我覺得這一點要思考一下好 謝謝洪都昭委其實我們今天討論大概在委員會的時候其實也講得差不多了"},{"start":3342.836,"end":3372.139,"text":"那其實我們當初心態也蠻開放嘛因為新北市本來就是全台灣幅員最大人口最多的城市嘛所以我們那時候其實甚至都有討論過如果新北市要再增加其實也可以但就要有版本出來嘛都要有版本出來那沒有關係嘛我們討論到現在大家也發言的差不多我覺得論理也差不多啦好不好那這條顯然在今天的會議我們也沒有辦法達成共識好不好那我們就保留OK那56條56條是縣市的部分嘛副縣長副市長的部分好我們請問大家有沒有意見"},{"start":3374.465,"end":3387.25,"text":"一樣要保留來 一樣我們洪祖宇我覺得一般縣市更不能這樣一般的縣市人口面積的差別真的太大了真的差很多"},{"start":3388.639,"end":3411.408,"text":"我們以現在我們中華民國所轄的領土裡面有幾萬人的也有上百萬人的那你都完全都沒有考慮就這樣子我覺得真的是我個人是覺得非常反對啦那尤其啊你說這個法案通過之後115年1月1號就適用"},{"start":3412.628,"end":3423.035,"text":"我認為真的不應該欸你要也是下界試用啊我覺得才合理啊不能你這樣子馬上就試用我真的覺得這很多大家要考量一下"},{"start":3424.804,"end":3445.232,"text":"好 謝謝洪路昭委還有沒有委員要補充好 我們陳玉珍委員先好不好 我們盡量輪流陳玉珍委員 然後李柏毅委員這個我覺得喔 尤其縣市喔剛剛那個張洪路委員說 這個縣市當然縣市有大小但是麻雀雖小也只有五張巨錢啊就是跟我們的主張一樣剛剛直轄市也是有大小 要民國99年那時候台南市那時候也不夠革新的時候 那時候也"},{"start":3445.772,"end":3474.125,"text":"我也台南市修了後來就變成直轄市嘛他說這過去了就是說一個縣市比如說金門縣市很小很偏遠很小那嘉義市也不是特別大的市啦那這些市也都是會需要有需要治理的事項不會小的地方不會自己比較輕鬆有時候老百姓的要求有時候還會更細緻要求的更那個服務更要到位啦這個是這個在小地方的這種這個公職人員的感受啦"},{"start":3474.685,"end":3498.378,"text":"所以我覺得就是縣市的話如果直下是三個那縣市兩個那我覺得這一點應該算是也是對國家對一個這個不管各個地方不管你人多人少偏遠就像我們對原住民的照顧一樣原住民的數更少啊我們要照顧他那至於會休說會休說是要從100明年的1月1號開始是因為是配合著這個財政說法化分法的關係啦"},{"start":3499.338,"end":3522.349,"text":"我對這一點當然沒有特別堅持啦就是說是下一屆開始我個人也覺得還可以但是我們這個提出來的提案是明年開始主要還是為了財化法財化法那時候我在主審財化法的時候那個內政部的那個次長有特別講說財化法通過以後相關的這個都要修就是人啦包括因為責任會變大嘛事情要變多嘛所以責任會變大會變多財化法通過以後所以就是要"},{"start":3526.226,"end":3541.937,"text":"就是其他都要更多人來做一點事情以上謝謝好 謝謝陳玉珍委員我們請李柏毅委員我先說一下好 可以 沒關係不好意思我覺得這個民主政治然後你選出的縣市長"},{"start":3543.171,"end":3566.783,"text":"我選的是你縣市長欸你縣市長如果沒有能力你下次人家不選你了不是人多你就可以做好事啦我覺得是應該這樣啦你去我們有很多東西你服務的服務人員的比例跟什麼其實都有一個規範都有一個標準那我們等於說政府就完全沒有標準了完全都一樣"},{"start":3567.783,"end":3587.99,"text":"我覺得如果你們要這樣子講那直轄市跟一般縣市的直等也不一樣難道直等高的就比較會做事嗎我覺得不是這樣所以我真的覺得這個要考量然後你說配合這個才化法我跟你講啦"},{"start":3589.434,"end":3612.709,"text":"每年縣市長每天都在跟行政院要錢難道他當初要的錢多的他就沒有家人他就可以做那現在有錢多了就要多了我覺得這個邏輯不大對啦對不對你跟中央要補助款要了很多的時候你那時候也沒說我人手不夠啊你不要給我那麼多錢我覺得這個邏輯不對啦"},{"start":3615.111,"end":3634.714,"text":"好 謝謝趙委員 我們先請剛剛舉手李柏宇委員謝謝 其實跟第55條一樣 55條 56條它的概念一樣 它的連動性是一樣的那我簡單講 我翻譯成白話文就是說國民黨加民眾黨得到立法院多數之後 藉由修法"},{"start":3635.214,"end":3653.399,"text":"因為他們的執政縣市多包含這個蔣萬恩市長如果在明年度那有副市長離職的話那他可能會少一個副市長哇哇叫沒有辦法拜託立法委員趕快來修法讓台北市雖然低於250萬也可以有三位副市長在"},{"start":3654.239,"end":3665.911,"text":"附帶放送所有的直轄市都可以有三位副市長之外所有的縣市因為我們執政的縣市長多再加一位到兩位的副縣長這是55條 56條我用白話文說給民眾聽是這樣子啦"},{"start":3670.256,"end":3692.767,"text":"但是國民黨當然也是提出一些理由包含這個財化法給地方多那麼多錢所以要多給你副市長問題是現在地方該多做什麼事情都還沒有講好現在行政區劃有沒有要再重新討論都沒有講好的情況下急著在115年施行這不是為了蔣萬安"},{"start":3693.988,"end":3714.654,"text":"是為了什麼這不是為了這些先是要多行是為了什麼我們今天的修法是這個所以我也是在這個協商的過程還是表達一下我們希望可以用很多方面來討論而不是這樣子直接的去做這樣的一個討論好 謝謝好 謝謝李博義委員我們請李恩秀委員"},{"start":3715.427,"end":3738.657,"text":"好 這個不管是不是才化法的修法其實中央的很多政策都是滾動式的調整我們好比社會安全網我們希望增加社工人員之前的食安事件有一些議題我們中央跟地方又重新分工所以很多事情是滾動式的調整在處理"},{"start":3740.518,"end":3764.333,"text":"各縣市都有增加副市長這個對於未來專業的分工其實是好事你要想說我們各縣市中央只要一個政策哪怕譬如說是都更的調整或者譬如說我們現在推動的國家安全任性也好未來要增加多少工作的內容其實我們分工的更專業好比我們現在在談都更很多副市長他可能他是"},{"start":3764.713,"end":3782.329,"text":"文化或教育專業他一下子要跨那麼大的科別對於現在會不會踩到法令上的一些問題或者是因為處理這些事情他又要再去回歸到問更多專業的人員所以有時候在市政推動的效率就會打折扣"},{"start":3783.11,"end":3809.04,"text":"所以我覺得對於像王委員未來馬上就是市長所以未來專業的分工我覺得是好事一樁會不會因為多一個副市長增加多少的費用沒有因為增加一個副市長或多增加了多幾個機要人員那個是本來就配備在裡頭的這是第一點我要表達的第二就是說市政的推動是不能等待的"},{"start":3809.36,"end":3834.634,"text":"那才化法之後才化法是一回事但是我們很多專業分工其實平常就在滾動式的做調整所以我覺得這個時間點為什麼定在1月1號市政的推動不能等所以我再一次我覺得這件事情沒有分任何顏色2026選完之後各縣市到底是一個什麼樣的狀態跟狀況大家都不知道"},{"start":3836.855,"end":3862.692,"text":"各縣市有藍有綠但是對於各縣市的縣民跟市民來說行政效率相對是重要的所以我覺得我們不能立法院什麼事情都用政治來看待我每次跟民眾跟年輕的好朋友高中生在分享我說你們從電視上看到的都是藍綠很多政治議題但是在立法院有更多的是非政治議題我們"},{"start":3864.393,"end":3886.179,"text":"通過的反而沒有被大家關注到我們也處理到很多有共識的議題所以我希望這樣的一件事情是不分藍綠大家可以來看待縣民跟市民對於行政效率的推動還有副市長在專業的分工上可以更精準所以我希望是朝這兩個面向來去做討論以上"},{"start":3887.259,"end":3903.649,"text":"就是大家的看法我都尊重但是這件事情如果可以從不同的角度跳脫大家各自政黨的角度來看我們只站在縣民跟市民的角度來看的話可不可以有更多不同考量的地方以上是我的說法謝謝大家"},{"start":3910.513,"end":3932.153,"text":"我還是再次強調啦如果跳脫藍綠大家就是看一個公平性那我認為原本的這個地方製度法的設計就是用人口數作為一個依據這樣是最公平的那現在你們說要把這個人口數的這個指標拿掉不論六都人口多少不論縣市人口多少全部都要增加一個副市長"},{"start":3933.294,"end":3952.181,"text":"那這樣公平性在哪裡你們不是說要用一個有公平的一個制度來看待嗎我看不出任何公平的一個指標那甚至剛剛這樣子其實以這個彥秀委員的說法好像把蔣萬安講得真的很無能真的很沒有效率少了一個副市長整個台北市政府就要垮了就要癱瘓了這麼嚴重嗎"},{"start":3954.682,"end":3968.39,"text":"啊真的台北市確實人口在減少啊那減少一個副市長就是依照這個人口的指標所以去調整的嘛那如果接下來如果台北市的人口又超過250萬了這個副市長一樣會補回來啊"},{"start":3971.832,"end":3986.431,"text":"那就剛剛的說法好像真的台北市沒有了這個第三個副市長哇 整個台北市變得超級沒有效率沒有辦法分工整個台北市就做不了事了那這樣不是更顯得這個市長真的做得很不好嗎"},{"start":3987.372,"end":4015.128,"text":"所以剛剛彥秀委員的意思是不是在指涉蔣萬安其實真的如果沒有副市長台北市就要垮了是不是這個意思呢那剛剛其實有講到這個養一個副市長到底要多少錢這個我們在委員會其實有討論過基本一個副市長就是一年700萬以上不外乎那些機要加上那些機要零零總總加起來可能要超過千萬有沒有這個可能可以請部長補充他們都有精算過"},{"start":4015.928,"end":4020.49,"text":"那你想喔 補一個副市長700萬 一年700萬其實你把這個錢拿去補給基層的公務員可以多養好幾個 十幾個警消醫護委那你們希望說可以提升整個城市治理的效能可以提升整個城市治理讓更多市民可以做到他們服務品質更好那去補一個基層的公務員"},{"start":4040.919,"end":4064.386,"text":"我認為更值得欸你們如果真的因為人口增加然後需要的服務的對象變多那我認為你們可以把這個扣打這700萬拿去增加地方的基層公務員的緣額甚至我覺得這個都還對於市民更有直接的幫助而不是為了蔣萬安一定要補這個第三個副市長好 以上好 謝謝 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各位媒體朋友大家好在賴總統團結時講進行了四講的此時本席今天要在此嚴正指出賴清德政府正在推動一套極具排他性的政治路線不僅利用台灣主體的口號煽動群眾情緒更進一步透過語言政策歷史教育與文化論述企圖塑造一種單一版本的台灣人標準"},{"start":2263.874,"end":2286.593,"text":"这样的操作已经不是单纯的价值选择而是在国家认同与公民资格上画下意识形态的分界线赖总统过去以务实的台独工作者自居执政后没有表现务实反而越来越强调台湾与中华文化的切割在语言政策上以国家语言的名义全面推动所谓的母语"},{"start":2287.453,"end":2301.318,"text":"對於這個所謂的母語以外的閩東語、粵語甚至新著名的語言都沒有制度性的保障完全排除在台灣文化的範疇之外而文化政策上也不斷削弱與中華傳統有關的藝術補助與教學內容轉而強化某種"},{"start":2305.799,"end":2332.827,"text":"纯粹台湾性的文化叙事这样的做法无疑是在制度上制造文化阶级将台湾内部的多元族群与历史的复杂性强行压缩至一个单一化的政治认同当中令人震惊的是总统在多次的公开谈话当中竟然将反对他立场的人暗示为其余人口历史杂质甚至形容统派立场的为外来势力的代理人"},{"start":2333.607,"end":2350.008,"text":"对于中华民国宪政的发展,竟然用台湾没有制宪代表参与制宪的错误史观误导人民,将省参议院选出的18位制宪代表,甚至里面包含原住民志姓Katanuan的事实从历史中抹去。"},{"start":2350.909,"end":2373.923,"text":"這樣子的發言不僅違反總統作為全民代表的責任更形同在國內製造敵我劃分今天思想立場不同就被指為雜質明天是否就是政策資源的差別對待是否就是學術言論與媒體自由的壓制理由我們要正視台灣是一個移民社會是多族群多語言多元歷史記憶交織的共同體"},{"start":2374.924,"end":2387.378,"text":"正是因為如此我們更應該珍惜彼此而不是讓政府用政治正確的語言框架去強化族群標籤壓縮文化空間挑起歷史對立真正的民主"},{"start":2389.821,"end":2405.831,"text":"只是容納一種聲音一種記憶一種版本的台灣人而是能夠讓所有族群與立場都在體制內被平等對待任何企圖壟斷國族定義的政權無論口號多麼進步實際上都是在背離民主價值院長各位委員"},{"start":2406.431,"end":2420.721,"text":"作為民意機關我們有責任捍衛台灣社會的多元與自由不應縱容任何政權用主體性包裝政治排他用本土性來壓迫思想多元我們追求的台灣是開放而自由能夠容納差異"},{"start":2432.458,"end":2437.669,"text":"谢谢林建奇委员的发言接下来我们请徐玉珍委员发言麦玉珍委员请准备"},{"start":2451.38,"end":2476.917,"text":"主席及各位委員大家早民進黨立院黨團總召柯建民高調發言不僅公開主導全國大罷免的行動還嗆聲要用刑法第100條內亂罪對付國民黨的立委甚至揚言要殲滅所有在野黨的委員這不是正常的政黨競爭而是一場明目張膽的政治清算是對台灣民主制度的公然踐踏與侮辱"},{"start":2478.658,"end":2493.494,"text":"而赤裸展現了民進黨政權對權力的無限貪婪與對在野黨的敵意賴清德所領導的政府正一步步把台灣拉向戒嚴幽靈的陰影之中那面民進黨"},{"start":2494.915,"end":2523.063,"text":"民主進步的旗幟如今正成為賴清德遮掩極權權力的破抹布令人憤怒的是當年民進黨就是靠著反對威權起家1991年成立的一百行動聯盟正是為了廢除刑法第一百條這項用於鎮壓異己的惡法然而如今柯建民狠狠打臉過去一直主張廢除刑法一百條的民進黨也狠狠地打臉了賴清德"},{"start":2524.858,"end":2541.188,"text":"而現在竟然無恥的要復活這項惡魔罪條來對付在野黨這不僅是歷史的諷刺更是對民主前輩的背叛也是對當年民主運動的公然踐踏民進黨的立委們"},{"start":2542.108,"end":2563.336,"text":"你們的種招呆頭主張用內亂罪對付在野黨你們是忘了自己的來時路還是忘了你們活在2025年民進黨所謂的民主進步難道就是進步到能用國家機器剷除異己還是要進步到民主獨裁更諷刺的是賴清德總統與行政院長卓榮泰"},{"start":2564.456,"end":2586.12,"text":"至今未出面澄清也未對柯建民的發言加以制止賴清德一方面高唱要團結國家一方面卻默許柯建民叫囂殲滅在野賴清德不溝通不協調而且還繼續的四處亂講造謠鼓動社會對立將反對者貶為加之這樣的總統不是在團結社會而是在撕裂國家"},{"start":2592.921,"end":2614.626,"text":"不是在捍衛民主,而是在摧毀民主賴清德老師指控中國用國安的名義打壓異極而如今自己卻走在威權統治的老路上當司法檢調成為執政黨的整肅工具當法律淪為執政黨對付反對者的武器台灣的民主就已經開始崩壞"},{"start":2615.706,"end":2633.34,"text":"我要嚴正的呼籲賴清德總統請對柯建民的言行做出明確的表態你是否認同以刑法一百條整肅在野黨你是否要讓台灣重返戒嚴人民有權知道誰才是摧毀民主的筷子手謝謝徐玉珍委員的發言接下來我們請麥玉珍委員請發言"},{"start":2658.049,"end":2676.269,"text":"主席各位親愛的家人大家早安我們尊重民主制度下的罷免權但我們反對惡意操作保護性的罷免根據最新民調超過68的民眾不支持這場政治"},{"start":2678.511,"end":2699.541,"text":"鬥爭式的罷免行動顯示人民要的是穩定與進步不是無止盡的內耗與仇恨民進黨執政九年問題越來越多賴政府團隊上任一年毫無政績沒用就是帶頭發動全面罷免"},{"start":2702.442,"end":2725.559,"text":"這不是改革 這是報復這場惡霸若成功 以後輸不去的 大家都來靠把面 民主 政治都是騙人的 把人民當夥伴現在台灣什麼都沒有 就是沒有民主只剩下對立 一場罷免要開兩千萬 全部幾棟大罷免超過十億"},{"start":2732.365,"end":2745.6,"text":"這些都是人民的血汗錢難道不該用災救災防台改善民生振興經濟照顧弱勢嗎颱風天人民苦哈哈"},{"start":2747.181,"end":2766.686,"text":"執政黨不想辦法救人民在這裡搞救霸凌 罷免為了權利寧願把錢放在床底下也沒有願意發給人民民進黨到處哭愁為了他們剩下的錢來"},{"start":2768.806,"end":2790.973,"text":"搞罷免內鬥,消耗國力,讓敵人有機可乘,讓社會更加撕裂。政治是為了解決問題,不是用來保護人民。國會需要的是理性監督,民主制衡,不是惡道無止境。"},{"start":2792.634,"end":2816.775,"text":"726拜託大家站出來用你手中的神聖的一票投下不同意不同意罷免和台灣民眾黨一起保住台灣民主守住國家的未來反罷免救台灣反罷免救台灣謝謝大家"},{"start":2821.468,"end":2828.567,"text":"谢谢麦玉珍委员的发言报告院会登记国事论坛发言的委员均已经发言完毕现在休息"},{"start":5396.847,"end":5421.387,"text":"報告委員會我們開始開會 請秘書長報告出席人數報告委員會出席委員51人 已足法定人數我們現在開會因陳希委員會本次會議議事日程草案送院會處理現有黨團依照本院議事成立對本次會議議事日程草案提出異議現在進行處理並截止收案我們先進行報告事項 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反對請按反對現在開始"},{"start":6229.894,"end":6237.239,"text":"報告表決結果在場出席委員105位贊成47位反對58位贊成則少數民進黨黨團提議不通過我們現在開始進行處理台灣民眾黨黨團討論事項提議共議案請議事人員宣讀更正提議內容"},{"start":6254.229,"end":6265.407,"text":"本院台灣民眾黨黨團針對第十一屆第三會期第二十次會議議事程討論事項提議僅限列如附表十四案是否有當進行公決宣讀完畢"},{"start":6268.238,"end":6277.862,"text":"請問院會對台灣民眾黨黨團體有異議有異議我們要進行表決我們針對台灣民眾黨黨團體的現有民進黨團台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨團體請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":6360.319,"end":6363.281,"text":"報告表決結果出席106位贊成59位反對47位贊成者"},{"start":6383.587,"end":6407.528,"text":"少數 贊成者多數 更正 贊成者多數台灣民眾黨黨團提議照案通過報告委員會 我們本次會議議事日程討論事項照台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過本次會議議事日程確定蔓越中委員提出聲明剛才表決與台灣民眾黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄"},{"start":6411.803,"end":6434.429,"text":"我們現在進行報告事項請秘書長宣讀第三會期第十九次會議議事錄宣讀立法院第十一屆第三會期第十九次會議議事錄時間中華民國一百十四年七月四日上午九時至九時二十四分十五至十二時三十九分七月八日上午九時至十時地點本院議場出席委員本院委員"},{"start":6436.315,"end":6457.631,"text":"出席委員 林委員 易軍等一百十二人請教委員 蘇委員 巧慧 主席 院長 韓國瑜報告事項第一案 宣讀編院第十一屆第三會期第十八次會議意思錄決定 確定第二案 決定經獲讀與相關提案並且協商第三之二十二十四至八十五案均決定交互相關委員會審查處理或交互相關委員會"},{"start":6459.132,"end":6478.985,"text":"第21至23案均決定同意撤回第86至88案為外交局國安委員會所提出報告案第89案決定展延審查期限質疑事項 行政委託部門三件 訪問事項第一至三案均決議交由長團協商第四五案均決議通過其他事項"},{"start":6481.227,"end":6489.055,"text":"114 年 7 月 3 日朝野黨團協商結論一件二 本市會議一事日程 照台灣民眾黨團提議通過三 國民黨黨團提議創出建法組合議案 亦已通過 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6496.137,"end":6511.449,"text":"法院會針對第三會期第十九次會議議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處我們現在做以下決定第三會期第十九次會議議事錄確定我們現在開始處理針列部分請宣讀議案"},{"start":6512.625,"end":6514.568,"text":"請問會有意義沒有意義我們通過下案"},{"start":6526.462,"end":6546.899,"text":"第二案 本院委員蘇清璇等19人離聚 社會救助法第11條及第16條條文修正草案 議事處意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢無疑通過 下一案第三案 本院委員黃健豪等17人離聚 道路交通管理處罰條例第90條條文修正草案 議事處意見交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢無疑通過 下一案"},{"start":6547.239,"end":6568.28,"text":"第四案 本院委員黃建豪等17人離聚兒童托育服務法草案 依釋出意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢無疑通過 向陽第五案 本院委員台灣民眾黨黨團離聚性別平等工作法增定第23條之一條文草案 依釋出意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢無疑通過 向陽"},{"start":6568.98,"end":6595.911,"text":"第六案 本院台湾民众党党团离聚消防法第六条条文修正草案 亦释出一件交内政委员会审查 宣布完毕第七案 本院委员王胜旭的二十三任离聚青年基本法草案 亦释出一件交教育及文化委员会审查 宣布完毕第八案 本院委员黄杰等十八任离聚就业保险法第十九条条文修正草案 亦释出一件交社会福利及危险环境委员会审查 宣布完毕"},{"start":6596.752,"end":6598.314,"text":"第九案第十案第十案"},{"start":6616.391,"end":6618.171,"text":"本案准予被查報告委員會本次會議"},{"start":6646.058,"end":6647.659,"text":"報告四項記載於議事錄順序授權議事處調整現在繼續處理原列報告四項請宣讀第二案"},{"start":6654.704,"end":6675.255,"text":"第二案 本院委員林月琴的二十一人聯聚 道路交通管理處罰條例第五十六條條維修政策案 議事處一間交交通委員會審查 訊訊完畢請委員會有異 無異通過下壓第三案 本院委員王鴻薇的水酒人聯聚 職業安全衛生法第四條條維修政策案 議事處一間交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 訊訊完畢無異通過下壓"},{"start":6676.255,"end":6703.225,"text":"第四案 本院委員李柏毅等16人離聚詐欺犯罪危害防治條例第46條及第47條條文修正常案議事處意見交內政委員會審查 宣讀完畢第五案 本院委員張家俊等18人離聚學校衛生法第5條第16條及第24條條文修正常案議事處意見交教育及文化委員會審查 宣讀完畢第六案 本院委員張家俊等24人離聚性別平等工作法增令第23條之1條文長案"},{"start":6704.585,"end":6720.877,"text":"第一次處理建交、社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀A、B第一次處理建交、社會福利及衛生環境經濟內眷三委員會審查宣讀A、B第一次處理建交、社會福利及衛生環境經濟內眷三委員會審查宣讀A、B第一次處理建交、社會福利及衛生環境經濟內眷三委員會審查宣讀A、B第一次處理建交、社會福利及衛生環境經濟內眷三委員會審查宣讀A、B第一次處理建交、社會福利及衛生環境經濟內眷三委員會審查宣讀A、B第一次處"},{"start":6721.838,"end":6743.839,"text":"第八案 本院委員陳清輝等16人離去 而同情少年福利與全英保障法第54條之一條維修正常案議事處一間交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢第九案 行政委員請選贏中華民國台灣政府與馬紹偉群島關合國政府刑事司法互助條約案議事處一間交外交及國防司法及法治 兩委員會審查 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6745.2,"end":6769.665,"text":"第十案 經濟部還送113年能源研究發展基金計劃及運用成效專案報告 議事處意見交經濟委員會處理 宣讀完畢無異通過 下一頁第十一案 習近平行為中央選舉委員會 委派領全國性公民投票案 通知114年度中央政府總預算第二月北京11億4042萬7千元之一 資檢送第二月北京動質數額機關別表 議事處意見交財政內政兩委員會 宣讀完畢無異通過 下一案"},{"start":6773.826,"end":6774.226,"text":"會議通過 下議案"},{"start":6789.693,"end":6815.009,"text":"第十三案 行政委員會中華民國一百十四年五月二十八日修正公布之病狀管理條例第二十一條之一條文定自一百十五年一月一日施行議事處理監教內政委員會宣傳完畢無疑通過 效應案第十四案 行政委員會中華民國一百十四年五月二十八日修正公布之家屬刑及非家屬刑業稅法第五十八條條文定自一百十五年一月一日施行議事處理監教財政委員會宣傳完畢無疑通過 效應案"},{"start":6815.669,"end":6819.233,"text":"第十六案內政部海維修正建築物使用類組及變更使用辦法第二條附表二"},{"start":6832.588,"end":6836.993,"text":"第一十七案第一十八案第一十八案第一十八案"},{"start":6854.491,"end":6878.917,"text":"第十九案 內政部海維修正私立公務股灰海存放設施管理費專務管理辦法 議事處一間交內政委員會 宣讀完畢無異通過 下一案第二十案 內政部海維修正殯葬管理條例實行實則部分條文 議事處一間交內政委員會 宣讀完畢無異通過 下一案第二十一案 外交部海維修正護照條例實行實則部分條文 議事處一間交外交及國防委員會 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6881.034,"end":6894.318,"text":"第二宣案 外交部函送中華民國台灣政府與馬紹爾群島共和國政府台馬總統獎助學金基金了解備忘錄我方淪陷中文及英文影本一事處理件將外交及國防委員會宣讀完畢"},{"start":6896.139,"end":6924.66,"text":"第23案 农业部含纵全贸美农服务定型化契约应记载机部的记载事项 意识出一件交经济委员会 宣读完毕第24案 农业部海维修正公告美国佛罗里达州自高币原金加钱流行型的毛飞去删除 意识出一件交经济委员会 宣读完毕第25案 农业部海维修正农业水利事业人员人事管理办法公开调文 意识出一件交经济委员会 宣读完毕"},{"start":6927.528,"end":6948.627,"text":"第26案,農業部海文修正中華民國輸入植物或植物產品檢疫規定,以有條件輸入植物或植物產品之檢疫條件第一點及第二點規定,依視處意見交經濟委員會。宣讀完畢。第27案,基礎監督管理委員會海文修正有價間券集中包含帳戶畫布作業篷法第34條及第35條條文,依視處意見交財政委員會。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":6952.751,"end":6976.083,"text":"第二十八案 教育部喊為修正國立自然科學博物館各項門票及相關會費收費標準第二條文附表一至附表六一事處一間教育及文化委員會 宣讀完畢予以通過 下議案第二十九案 教育部喊送本院修正學生法導法部分條文通過附帶決議第二項緊急第三項書面報告一事處一間教育及文化委員會 宣讀完畢予以通過 下議案"},{"start":6976.643,"end":7005.225,"text":"第30案 教育部海維修正教育部提出編制表 議事處意見交司法及法制教育及文化兩委員會 宣讀完畢 無疑通過 下一案第31案 司法院考試院海維修正 領選未具擬任職務任用資格人員 轉任法官犯法不恩條文 議事處意見交司法及法制委員會 宣讀完畢 無疑通過 下一案第30案 交通部海維修正汽車運輸業管理規則第19條是4條文 議事處意見交交通委員會 宣讀完畢 無疑通過 下一案"},{"start":7006.045,"end":7024.826,"text":"第33案 勞動部還會修正外國人受聘僱從事就業服務法第46條 第一項 第8款 制定習慣規定工作之轉換僱主或工作程序準則第17條 第22條 第33條 順應條文 及第13條 附條1 依次處理件交生會服務行政環境委員會宣言完畢"},{"start":7026.608,"end":7040.781,"text":"第34案 勞動部海外學生外國人從事就業服務法第46條 第1項第8款 之第11款工作資格及審查標準部分條文及第24條附表5 第25條附表6 議事處意見交社會福利相關紀念會宣傳完畢"},{"start":7043.743,"end":7065.234,"text":"第35案 勞動部考慮修正雇主拼郭外國人從《市就業服務法》第46條第一項第8款制定10款規定是工作應繳納就業安定費數額表議事處意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢報告委員會本案由國民黨團體改交審查本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查下一案"},{"start":7066.089,"end":7089.606,"text":"第三十六案 勞動部海維修正有機溶劑中毒預防規則 議事處一間教育社會福利基金會上環境委員會 宣讀完畢無疑通過 下一案第三十七案 衛生福利部海維修正食品貼件物使用範圍及限量及規格標準第四條條文及第二條附表一 議事處一間教育社會福利基金會上環境委員會 宣讀完畢無疑通過 下一案"},{"start":7090.219,"end":7115.788,"text":"第38案 衛生福利部海維修正傳染病流行疫情監視及疫情系統實施辦法第8條條文議事處議見交社會福利及文化環境委員會宣讀完畢無疑通過宣揚第39案 環境部海維修正列管毒性化學物質及其運作管理事項公開事項第一項及第二項附表二第三項附表三第四項附表四議事處議見交社會福利及文化環境委員會宣讀完畢無疑通過宣揚"},{"start":7116.388,"end":7141.741,"text":"第四十一案環境部海外修正列管關注化學物質及其運作管理事項公告事項第一項附表一及第二項附表四依釋處一間交社會福利系物價環境委員會宣讀完畢第四十一案不當檔產處理委員會函送自一百零五年八月三十一日至一百十四年三月十日業務執行現況及調查進度報告依釋處一間交內政委員會宣讀完畢"},{"start":7142.861,"end":7170.081,"text":"報議會本案由台灣民眾黨團體改革審查本案交內政委員會審查下案第四選案大陸委員會函送台灣與澳門避免航空企業雙重課稅協議一百十四年第一季全校報告議事處議見交內政委員會宣讀完畢互以通過下案第四十三案大陸委員會函送香港特殊地位檢討及香港人道援助關懷行動中央執行情形一百十四年四月報告議事處議見交內政委員會宣讀完畢"},{"start":7171.004,"end":7191.935,"text":"抱怨會本案由台灣民眾黨黨團體改交審查本案交內政委員會審查下一案第44案經濟部橫送123年度中小企業融資協助執行成果報告書議事處意見交經濟委員會宣傳完畢抱怨會本案由台灣民眾黨團體改交審查本案交經濟委員會審查下一案"},{"start":7192.472,"end":7218.419,"text":"第四十六案,金融監督管理委員會橫送113年度推動金融科技發展成果季法規條實書面報告,議事處意見交財政委員會,宣讀完畢。報言會本案由台灣民眾黨團體改交審查,本案交財政委員會審查,下議案。第四十六案,財政部橫送經濟部113年電動車輛免准使用牌照稅交易說明,議事處意見交財政委員會,宣讀完畢。無異通過,下議案。"},{"start":7219.332,"end":7230.919,"text":"第四十七案 數位發生不含送113年度國家自動安全情勢報告及113年度公務機關資安集合概況報告議事處理監交交通委員會 宣布完畢報告完畢報告完畢報告完畢報告完畢"},{"start":7238.069,"end":7254.475,"text":"第四十八案環境部案從一百十三年水污染防水基金執行績效報告議事處意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢報議會本案由台灣民眾黨團體改交審查本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查"},{"start":7257.028,"end":7276.974,"text":"第49案至第121案請依序宣讀其中第49至72、75、76、80、81、85、86案台灣民眾黨團體改交審查宣讀之後以上提案均改交相關委會審查其餘議案均照議事書意見通過請問院會有異議面議請宣讀宣讀之後通過"},{"start":7284.178,"end":7309.024,"text":"第49案及第50案海洋委員會第51案僑務委員會第52案國防部第53案治理武器案經濟部第58案農業部第59案金融監督管理委員會第60案財政部第61案教育部第62案及第63案文化部第64案國立故宮博物院第65案國家科學及技術委員會第66案數位發展部第67案國家通訊傳播委員會第68案交通部第69案環境部"},{"start":7309.424,"end":7333.116,"text":"第70案 卫生福利部第71案 及第72案 国家发展委员会第73案 至第79案 农业部第80案 至第85案 经济部第86案 内政部第87案 至第91案 财政部第92案 及第93案 金融监督管理委员会第94案 行政院主席总处第95案 至第98案 教育部第99案 文化部第100案 至第104案 交通部第105案 法务部"},{"start":7333.496,"end":7351.173,"text":"第106案指定118案卫生福利部第119案劳动部第120案环境部第121案援助民主委员会含为各年度相关预算113年度中央政府总预算附属单位预算114年度中央政府总预算等预算权益分别检送相关报告宣读完毕"},{"start":7353.035,"end":7374.213,"text":"更正報告院會剛才報告事項第48案另有國民黨黨團體改交審查第48案改交審查交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查第122案及質詢事項請一臂宣讀宣讀之後第122案准予被查請宣讀"},{"start":7375.339,"end":7397.216,"text":"第1、2案為本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會衡委員會交付審查相關行政命令已於立法院質詢行事法第60條鎖定審查期限質詢事項將行政院答覆部分前期面函送本院嚴委員寬衡等所提質詢之書面答覆公認件以本院委員質詢部分本院網委員洪威等向行政院提出質詢共三件宣言完畢"},{"start":7400.472,"end":7413.941,"text":"報告院會報告事項已經處理完畢因為後續討論事項進行有待溝通請各黨團幹部10點45分至議場後面主席休息室我們進行溝通先來休息"},{"start":10797.646,"end":10817.342,"text":"報院會我們現在繼續開會先由黨團共事一本日星期五院會抽出動議之處理各黨團均無異議均照案通過二本日院會處理討論事項第一案完畢之後即休息"},{"start":10818.405,"end":10843.38,"text":"三 討論四項第一案 院會進行處理時依規定進行廣泛討論下午點進行本案主條討論名稱及條文之表決僅處理各黨團版本再修正動議並依先後進行處理均不發言完成立法程序後 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德文學生提據論審資料保護法部份條文修正草案案自經濟委員會抽出禁服惡毒與相關提案並按選項是否由黨進行公決宣讀完畢會會本案以黨團共事我們就照案通過我們現在進行討論事項第一案因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及國土安全韌性特別條例草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":10969.946,"end":10990.818,"text":"本院經濟財政兩委員會於114年5月14日、114年5月21日分別舉行聯席會議進行審查由召集委員謝一鳳擔任主席會中邀請經濟部部長郭志輝等就行政院及本院黨團委員提案提出說明並答覆委員質詢另邀請行政院公共工程委員會等派員練習備詢"},{"start":10993.404,"end":10994.764,"text":"我們現在請召集委員謝依奉委員補充說明"},{"start":11019.051,"end":11034.958,"text":"沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議須交由黨團協商另外賴瑞榮委員等提案經第三會期第14次會議決定近乎二讀與相關提案並按協商王振旭委員等提案經第三會期第15次會議決定"},{"start":11036.278,"end":11061.874,"text":"自委員會抽出淨附二讀與相關提案並按協商報應會本案因協商已超過一個月沒有辦法達成共識依立法院職權刑事法第七十一條之一規定由院會定期處理因此與本次會議提出討論何新淳委員發表聲明對剛才表決與民進黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄"},{"start":11064.429,"end":11077.263,"text":"現在依照黨團共識我們進行廣泛討論依登記順序發言並截止發言登記每位委員發言時間三分鐘首先請林俊憲委員發言林國成委員請準備"},{"start":11094.348,"end":11120.59,"text":"謝主席今天國民黨以我們稅金有超收啊要來普發現金稅金為什麼會超收我們的稅法過去以來都沒有改變那稅金會超收沒有人會多繳稅不管是個人或企業你按照稅法該繳多少就多少那稅金會超收"},{"start":11121.604,"end":11146.931,"text":"就是因為景氣好 經濟好 超收的稅金哪裡來都是像營業所得稅 或者證券交易稅所以呢 國民黨整天在喊 稅金超收那這一點啊 我要先感謝國民黨肯定民進黨執政的政績啦你要執政經濟好 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謝謝陳昭芝委員的發言接下來我們請王逸川委員發言林儲英委員請準備好 各位委員請保持肅靜尊重發言委員的權益"},{"start":12344.594,"end":12367.091,"text":"國務院請好 主席我們現在正在討論的案子啊是白蘭兩黨啊為了救國民黨被罷免的選情啊決定拿國庫的錢來幫國民黨政策買票給國家的錢來替國民黨買票一個人分一萬塊 這是國家的錢"},{"start":12373.168,"end":12392.283,"text":"那本來呢 國家的錢 各位看 台灣來了 我們嘉義 台南 現在有的地方還在停電電費調度又上升 電線現在還在修理 需要修理這裡的錢人家需要這個韌性電網 讓它安全的在台電的錢"},{"start":12393.664,"end":12413.279,"text":"本地的行政說這次要來補貼台電要補貼台電 不能讓台電棄價因為台電身份越來越高 不能讓台電棄價要補貼 國民黨說不可以民眾說不可以 哪可以補台電哪可以補台電 國民黨有一個將軍說什麼 說我這次要燒假去台南那是天公伯也有眼睛你看這外無良心的國民黨"},{"start":12424.377,"end":12431.364,"text":"要補台幣不要,要去各個地方拿國民黨來買票一個人分一萬塊,還要跟人民湊團說,我分一萬塊,你們要不要跟我拚?今天過去了,國民黨的人,去每一個地方都說,我們國民黨分一萬塊"},{"start":12448.26,"end":12457.303,"text":"本市民跟我講 拜託不要把我罷免我本市民跟你講 你不要把我罷免各位 這錢是從國家挖出來的從國家挖錢出來給國民黨買票這個事情 民眾黨在賭這炒肉叫炒肉也賭了"},{"start":12468.988,"end":12472.772,"text":"吼!這炒賣到炒賣,人家說這有錢賺,這東西還在賺?國民黨要買票,歐國家的錢在買票,民眾黨也賺下去"},{"start":12480.117,"end":12489.861,"text":"就要開始討論進行 國民黨就一人欠一萬塊給我一箱 說好一萬一萬一萬從今天晚上開始 國民黨絕對打電話 都說我要分一百塊給你 分一百塊給你錢從哪裡來 錢我看你欠國民黨你自己的東山啊我藏一堆的東山 都說好好出來分啊欠國家的錢 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謝謝范營委員的發言接下來請黃國昌委員發言鄭天才委員請準備"},{"start":22438.424,"end":22457.916,"text":"院長各位委員過去四年我們的政府年年超徵在去年2024年超徵的金額高達了5283億台灣民眾黨立法院黨團事實上在高關稅的政策出來以前我們就立足必須要還財於民"},{"start":22459.577,"end":22482.392,"text":"而且非常科學的除了普發六千元的現金還給被超徵的台灣人民之外我們要求必須要撥補給勞保必須要撥補給健保而且在台灣民眾黨黨團的版本當中我們還要增加債務還本去照顧我們下一代的世代正義剛剛"},{"start":22484.793,"end":22510.708,"text":"民主進步黨的范雲委員上來屋子在野黨造謠我們來看看到底是誰在造謠他說今天才看到台灣民眾黨所提出的再修正動議請容我提醒台灣民眾黨的再修正動議上個禮拜就已經提了上個禮拜就已經提了民主進步黨的再修正動議大家什麼時候看到的"},{"start":22511.388,"end":22534.787,"text":"跟其他的版本一樣的時間看到我沒有辦法理解為什麼民主進步黨的發言委員因而在戰友山的站在這個發言台上面造謠我們來講科學我們來講數字民主進步黨你們一開始在2016年執政的時候台電是賺錢還是虧錢的台電過去是國營事業的金雞母"},{"start":22539.266,"end":22553.533,"text":"每一年都賺錢啊什麼時候開始虧錢的左民進黨開始發展所謂的綠能政策補貼綠油油綠油油吃得肥吃吃台電啊虧錢"},{"start":22555.515,"end":22571.011,"text":"虧錢了以後繼續從誰的身上拔毛從納稅人的身上拔毛過去這幾年有沒有補貼給台裔有補貼給台裔包括補貼包括增資已經從納稅人身上拿了三千億"},{"start":22572.25,"end":22595.423,"text":"拿了三千億以後現在喊不夠說如果不繼續給我一千億的話我要漲電費啊到底誰在敗家啊到底誰不看數字啊到底誰不論科學普發現金啊的這個議題也容許我提醒民主進步黨2008年的時候蔡英文是怎麼主張的"},{"start":22597.144,"end":22616.836,"text":"賴清德是怎麼主張的那時候因應所謂的金融海嘯即使要舉債發現金那時候的蔡英文那時候的賴清德都說直接給民眾現金更加快速有效當年民進黨的主張你們還記得嗎謝謝"},{"start":22621.909,"end":22625.571,"text":"院長各位委員今天我們討論特別條例是為了因應美國關稅的這樣的一個"},{"start":22651.175,"end":22678.403,"text":"非常不合理的政策所以我們今天國民黨特別提出相關提供企業金融的支持產業以及勞工以及農業這方面的一個支持當然很重要的就是除了這些企業跟農業之外一般的人民當然會受到很大很大的影響"},{"start":22679.545,"end":22707.232,"text":"所以在這樣一個國際的環境之中我們看新加坡新加坡它在今年二月十八號就提出了五百九十六美元的給他們新加坡的人民韓國在今年的五月南韓的國會也通過了給他們韓國的人民相關的這些"},{"start":22709.938,"end":22734.53,"text":"相關的這些一個支持所以我們在台灣一樣人民也會受到衝擊所以國民黨提出了普發現金油網演講的一個提案希望大家能夠支持對於台電的部分大家都很清楚台電在過去馬政府時代"},{"start":22735.748,"end":22740.231,"text":"在2015年4月調降7.34%2015年10月調降2.33%2016年4月調降9.56%這樣的一個調降不僅止調降之後台電在103年"},{"start":22761.175,"end":22762.437,"text":"盈餘139億104年 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盈餘425億反觀我們這幾年"},{"start":22773.097,"end":22775.638,"text":"台電111年虧損2265億多112年虧損1990億多113年虧損410億多而且用人民的納稅錢還撥補了3000億撥補了之後還怎麼樣還漲價20"},{"start":22802.761,"end":22825.491,"text":"2024年4月调涨了11%2024年的10月这个产业的部分调涨了12%所以在这样的一个情形之下当然台电是因为能源政策的问题"},{"start":22831.3,"end":22837.905,"text":"谢谢郑天才委员的发言接下来我们请郭玉晴委员发言林玥晴委员请准备"},{"start":22850.216,"end":22858.58,"text":"好主席各位同仁大家晚那麼首先呢我們要講喔剛剛其實聽到這個耳朵不太舒服的人在說這個超徵"},{"start":22861.966,"end":22885.452,"text":"什麼叫做超徵我們再講一次超徵事實上就是稅收超過我們原本的預算編列的金額那麼額外的這些收入是屬於所謂的公共財的部分他可以用來投資未來他可以用來照顧需要的人像是教育或者是醫療等等各方面再說了剛剛一直提到所謂的電價的部分"},{"start":22886.667,"end":22910.455,"text":"他們好像假裝看不到也聽不到國際的燃料價格暴漲這些都是事實那麼政府為了要穩定我們的民生穩定我們的物價他吸收了大量的一個成本所以讓大家有穩定的生活但是現在我們看到了他們一昧的把這些髒水呢就往執政黨身上潑"},{"start":22912.622,"end":22926.221,"text":"在這裡我真的要先謝謝目前我們投入災後復建重建的這些辛苦的台電人員這一次的風災是40年來第一次從中南部登陸的一個颱風它的風力飆破了17級那麼電網的損害非常的嚴重"},{"start":22930.106,"end":22948.463,"text":"台電在第一時間都動員了上萬人來做搶修那麼面對所謂的地形的複雜通行的困難的一個挑戰大家日以繼夜的投入也請國人多一分的體諒也給前線這些台電的辛苦的工作同仁更多的支持跟鼓勵"},{"start":22949.324,"end":22966.897,"text":"我們支持強化安全任性特別條例但是撥補台電這一千億被國民黨被民眾黨為了要當大免的立委來做保命那麼他們硬生生的刪除了他們說對撥補台電一千億是寸步不讓"},{"start":22967.958,"end":22992.22,"text":"那麼接著下來我們可想而知的如果村部不讓那麼有可能我們就要來調整電價那麼會影響到的是誰會影響到的就是增加一般家庭的生活支出啊會影響到的是誰會影響到的就是將來會電高中小企業營運的成本這些人啊會影響到的是誰會影響到的就是要削弱高耗能產業的競爭力"},{"start":22994.282,"end":23017.295,"text":"這一千億本來是可以來提升電網跟國土的穩定性是來因應我們未來的挑戰的但是非常的遺憾我們看到了這一項本來可以強化國安跟基礎建設的特別條例當中的這些卻在藍白的主導下硬生生變了調他們硬是塞入所謂的全民普發一萬元的這個版本"},{"start":23018.382,"end":23043.299,"text":"用2300億的政策買票為了就是要趕在7月26號前大免案前來大發錢你說這不是政策買票什麼才是政治算計大大免大成功啦好謝謝國語請委員的發言接下來我們請登記第16號林月琴委員發言莊瑞雄委員請準備"},{"start":23056.445,"end":23071.448,"text":"我來自社會福利界一直以來福利輸送的方式最理想的就是提供各項長遠穩定的服務措施而不是發現金所謂的超收"},{"start":23073.101,"end":23101.545,"text":"稅收超征是政府收到的稅比原先預估的還要多不是多收人民的錢而是經濟表現跟人民努力的成果這筆錢應該用在可長可久的地方例如長照社福教育文化為下一代打基礎就像家庭突然多了一筆錢會換床墊買家電而不是分光花光這是常識但"},{"start":23102.325,"end":23117.168,"text":"藍白兩黨裝睡裝不懂國民黨打著普發現金的旗號實際上是要用人民的納稅錢來反罷免保政治前途這是毫不掩飾的政治操作用一次性的大撒幣"},{"start":23118.99,"end":23141.583,"text":"來換選票國庫變提款價人民血汗錢變成他政治的保密錢藍白提案全民一人發一萬全台2350萬人就要花掉2350億比他們砍掉的預算還要多從去年起他們提出各種無裁員的法案那"},{"start":23142.831,"end":23164.532,"text":"亂砍民生預算又傻幣買票國庫被掏空將近8600億這不是政黨鬥爭是台灣的財政的危機從去年到現在各種傻幣加碼的修法不斷原住民保留地的進法補償每年增加52億元財富辦法地方從"},{"start":23166.073,"end":23182.162,"text":"將從中央多分走三千七百五十三億元零零總總慶祝難輸還有正在排隊超過三兆的錢坑法案這些都是攸關國安跟民生的錢被他們一次性的撒出去對得起"},{"start":23183.163,"end":23212.12,"text":"我們的納稅人嗎我們要的不是一次性的發錢而是要把這些錢呢能夠拿去建構身心障礙者的服務資源開辦有薪彈性預金架照顧弱勢族群幫助所有需要幫助的人這才是真正照顧人民提升國家整體的政策像這樣子亂搞預算的立委該罷免就罷免我們不能接受有人把國防民生"},{"start":23213.181,"end":23217.305,"text":"當政治籌碼只為保住自己的權位大罷免大成功謝謝"},{"start":23233.93,"end":23248.76,"text":"謝謝主席 在場的美麗朋友還有我們立法院的同仁剛聽了藍白委員的在我們議事廳上高談闊論 聽了也佩服了其實你把它看我們立法委員"},{"start":23250.424,"end":23273.293,"text":"至少在論證的時候憲法70條你至少應該把它翻開來看一看立法院對行政院所提的一個預算你不能再去做一個增加這是當一個立法委員最基本的一個素養我們預算法第34條你們跟我們講得很清楚你任何一筆支出的一個增加"},{"start":23274.226,"end":23294.753,"text":"你要提案啊,你要說明你的經費的一個來源啊我今天聽了民眾黨的委員的一席話以後啊這跟他們過去的一個主張財政紀律什麼科學、理性、務實今天聽起來啊,那真的是以過去的講話,這完全是狗屁不通啊"},{"start":23295.632,"end":23317.238,"text":"行政院所提出來的 行政院想要的 民進黨想要的國民黨就是不要台灣民政黨就跟他聯手 我們也一起不要在野黨鬥爭執政黨啊 司空盡的慣了但是呢 要把整個國家這樣的一個財政紀律給搞爛了這個萬萬不可啊你說提到台電的一個撥補如果以駐台電價來看的話"},{"start":23321.328,"end":23340.952,"text":"我們台灣是德國的四分之一是法國的三分之一啊如果我們現在台電的價格是跟法國跟德國一樣的話跟日本一樣的話那我們採相同的一個費率收取的一個電價的話我們現在台電不會是虧四千多億啊我們會賺五千億啊我們如果跟他們一樣的一個電價的話那今天"},{"start":23348.277,"end":23375.352,"text":"中國國民黨跟台灣民政黨不要忘記了總統大選你們是選輸的選輸的應該是好好的監督賴清德政府所開出來的支票到底有沒有兌現而不是賴清德政府所開出來的任何支票或者行政院所做的任何施政你就全部 你們就聯手去做一個反對然後去提出過去賴清德政府在競選總統沒有開出來的支票你們這叫做求九頭六把人打"},{"start":23376.465,"end":23400.284,"text":"那已經得當選然後你們不要求他兌現支票你們自己猛開支票不通選舉到了罷免的投票快到了會滾開啊 燒開啊你們就趕快把這個國家的錢老百姓的血汗錢你們把它當成在夜市裡面好像零用錢開始這樣去撒有沒有用 當然會有用啊"},{"start":23402.475,"end":23415.605,"text":"老百姓當然會喜歡啊可是一方面你批評民主進步黨敗家又講說我們錢好多 不能還財於民一方面鬥爭執政黨然後一方面又講說忘記說你們批評這個政府已經被"},{"start":23435.342,"end":23440.085,"text":"謝謝莊瑞雄委員的發言接下來我們請沈伯陽委員發言蔡議員請準備謝謝主席那這個"},{"start":23455.499,"end":23481.856,"text":"這一個關於今天的議案其實有三個值得討論的點第一個我們先來講財政面財政面就是如果今天我們全台灣人要發一萬就要兩千三百億那財政面的問題就是請問錢從哪裡來今天國民黨民眾黨不但說要還錢於民但請問今天國家之所以會有多出來的錢是為什麼"},{"start":23482.797,"end":23506.358,"text":"是因為今天稅收超乎預期,那稅收超乎預期來自於哪裡?大部分就是盈利事業所得稅、盈利稅、證交稅等等之類的,它其實最主要並不是個人所得稅。所以如果說你要還錢漁民的話,那你的錢,你從盈利事業所得稅的錢,然後你說要把它退到向個人所得,這其實兩邊是完全不合的。"},{"start":23507.139,"end":23527.2,"text":"這就好像你今天去買東西,結果你給的店員太多錢了,結果你跟店員說要求退費,結果店員說他沒有要退給你,但他所有經過的路人每個都退,這不是莫名其妙嗎?所以在財政面上面,這完全就是一個錯誤的措施。但更不要講說還有第二點,就是法律面。"},{"start":23528.035,"end":23557.355,"text":"在法律面今天4100億是由行政院提出立法院的責任是針對這一個4100億你可能給予刪減這就跟我們平常在煽動預算非常的類似這個權利是在行政院的身上而立法院的權利呢是跟大家講說對不起根據我們的所代表的民意我們不允許這個我們不允許那一個但是按照法制面按照憲政的分工立法院不能夠獨自去增加"},{"start":23558.275,"end":23583.642,"text":"如果增加的話呢 也要指名裁員那請問有指名裁員嗎也沒有指名這個真正的裁員來自於哪裡啊所以這個在法律面也是違憲 也是違法的但第三個更重要的就是執行面因為這一次在執行面呢剛剛這個黃國昌有提到他說那個以前金融海嘯的時候啊我們說要普發現金啊請問台灣現在是在金融海嘯嗎"},{"start":23585.307,"end":23609.084,"text":"今天台灣 今天如果你要每個人普發一萬 你為的是要刺激消費請問台灣現在要刺激消費嗎要把2300億的熱錢直接投在市場裡面突然有那麼多的熱錢 但是你的商品沒有變多啊你的服務沒有變多啊那你2300億直接砸進去 那你就是萬物起漲嘛所以到最後受害的是誰 受害的會是一般人民啊"},{"start":23609.915,"end":23633.375,"text":"所以最終國民黨提這個案子也只是為了救自己的罷免但我要告訴大家罷免跟一般選舉不一樣選舉你可以端出政策牛肉你可能還可以做這樣的事情但是罷免是因為大家對你們的信任崩解對於你們的迴憲亂政對於你們要大量開放中國移民要讓紅媒永久在這邊對這個信任崩解對於信任崩解政策買票是沒有用的謝謝"},{"start":23638.215,"end":23643.498,"text":"謝謝沈博洋委員的發言接下來我們請蔡議員發言陳培宇委員請準備謝謝院長各位同仁我想台電公司內肩負著維繫台灣電力的一個重責大任"},{"start":23666.001,"end":23677.61,"text":"那同時台電也是台灣所有物價的一個防波堤基於我們的民生議題台電公司幫我們撐住穩住物價不讓所謂的物價上漲"},{"start":23680.97,"end":23700.378,"text":"所以因為這樣我們也知道台電以它的電價來說台灣的電價是全世界第三低的我們只高於馬來西亞跟墨爾本這兩個國家如果跟國際比起來我們台灣住宅電價最低是2.77元韓國是3.96元日本是7.37元法國是9.36元德國是10.43元"},{"start":23709.181,"end":23730.756,"text":"台灣比這國家更受然後再發生了從疫情期間到了烏鴉戰爭那所有的能源的成本提高的時候全世界也都有在補貼他們的電力公司我們台灣有3000億人沒錯你們知道嗎日本在這段時間內他也補貼了台電7300億元"},{"start":23734.622,"end":23755.156,"text":"法國補貼了七千元德國補貼了五千兩百億元所以一樣大家都有在補貼的時候補貼台電並不是任何罪過因為我們要繼續穩定物價我們也希望台電可以繼續發展要替我們台灣人民拼命這一次的風災這個台風風台這麼強"},{"start":23759.4,"end":23773.957,"text":"我們台鐵是無日無夜地踢我們的面尤其是這次在芬加南都發生了當天你看台鐵像我剛才的相片那本來要十天"},{"start":23774.717,"end":23794.091,"text":"三機電塔倒去 電塔倒去 他們用三天的時間把這個電塔拼得好把這個高壓電可以送進去現在還有很多配電的 要把每個村莊的電 把它一次恢復起來所以台電是這樣拼命"},{"start":23796.073,"end":23814.551,"text":"讓我們用更多的預算來支撐台電,讓他可以繼續來替我們做出最好的服務全世界最好的服務,就是我們台灣的台電公司這麼好的公司,我們國家要支持,就叫你們國民黨、民眾黨今天你們要用你們的普發現金,就要用這錢就說不行"},{"start":23818.359,"end":23838.696,"text":"你知道普發現金之後我們接下來這一次的農損二十四億所來都有很多的鄉親他們的家庭被淘汰了那也是都要補走接下來還有很多的費用我們也不知道接下來還會不會有第二個天災第二個一個事件這都要費用 安定住要賺一萬..."},{"start":23865.348,"end":23871.233,"text":"我不承認今天我們黨民共產黨好幾個大法院都在拖拉陷阱大自衛 海淀的這個陷阱你不給他你不給台灣 把他抓到美國你不給我們台灣 把他抓到美國你不給我們台灣 把他抓到美國你不給我們台灣 把他抓到美國"},{"start":23879.651,"end":23892.824,"text":"謝謝院長 謝謝蔡育委員你剛剛說國民黨沒良心啦沒良心不是同一天 也不是同一天繼續下去 我們可以看到國民黨跟民眾黨 他們繼續沒良心為什麼說他們沒良心"},{"start":23895.467,"end":23917.999,"text":"在我們現在在開會的時候所有的台電人員都還在現場搶救都還在現場工作他們沒有辦法像我們一樣有熱騰騰的飯菜他們沒有辦法像我們一樣每天回家為了搶救所有現場的災難他們都還在現場可是國民黨的委員你們不聽民眾黨的委員也不聽"},{"start":23919.079,"end":23937.246,"text":"接下來我們可能會看到民眾黨的委員繼續造謠在之前協商的時候呢張祺凱很愛說錯誤的能源政策我就再次告訴他他不聽我們其他人來聽一聽我們想辦法來教會他們目前所有全世界的電價都在上漲"},{"start":23938.526,"end":23952.102,"text":"並不是因為大家都是錯誤的能源政策不要忘記了這幾年的俄烏戰爭造成能源進口的價格上漲這件事情是全世界的民主國家都在承擔的"},{"start":23953.183,"end":23970.769,"text":"但是我們看到國民黨跟民眾黨的委員沒有要跟民主國家站在一起他們跟中國共產黨一樣的國家站在一起他們瞧不起新的能源政策他們不在意新的能源轉型他們也不打算幫助台灣的廠商跟產業這就是國民黨"},{"start":23972.089,"end":23987.067,"text":"這也是民眾黨我要再次提醒國內八大工商團體一再的發表聲明拜託拜託支持台電但是他們依然不肯所以我們可以看到在今天的特別條例裡頭他們把台電的部分拿掉了"},{"start":23987.708,"end":24005.935,"text":"接下來我要問所有的勘災的費用所有的農損的補助請問相關的預算要從哪裡來還有每一次只要出現相關農損不是只有民進黨的委員區域立委他們需要幫助請問國民黨的委員"},{"start":24006.775,"end":24028.428,"text":"民眾黨的委員想要選舉縣市首長的委員你們難道不會對行政院提出協助的幫忙的哀嚎嗎當然會因為你們的選民也會期待你們去跟行政院要資源就像最近張立善他又再次提出全品向全補助那我就問"},{"start":24029.689,"end":24041.362,"text":"國民黨的立法委員在立法院作亂隨便刪選預算結果國民黨的縣市首長對地方繼續用一樣的行政甚至操作手法在騙錢 在騙選民這難道不是邏輯的問題嗎國民黨人有邏輯的問題"},{"start":24046.047,"end":24064.842,"text":"有不在意人民聲音的問題他們有繼續在立法院造謠作亂的問題所以我想今天的普發憲金條例三讀一定會通過但是我要再次提醒國民黨人還有民眾黨人你們所造成的財政機遇的危機已經不是你們所能夠想像的"},{"start":24067.739,"end":24075.736,"text":"好 謝謝陳培宇委員的發言接下來我們請李坤澄委員發言張雅琳委員請準備"},{"start":24088.415,"end":24113.757,"text":"謝謝主席憲法法庭4字第391號他就說了立法院呢依照憲法第六三條規定呢有審議預算之權那立法委員在審議預算的時候呢應該受到憲法第七十條立法院對於行政院所提的預算案不得為增加支出之提議所以基本上政委長所提的這兩個版本基本上就已經是違憲了"},{"start":24115.305,"end":24119.192,"text":"國民黨的再修正版本經費上限是5450億普發一萬塊增加預算這是違憲的"},{"start":24124.676,"end":24144.118,"text":"那民眾黨的再修正版本呢 經費上限是4100億你看說好像4100億 沒有增加但是呢 普發6000塊 預算項目呢 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康瑞到剛剛過境的丹納斯颱風"},{"start":24362.017,"end":24375.364,"text":"台電動員了全國超過九成的人力不眠不休的犧牲與家人相處的時光我想最近大家在社群上面都有看到他們甚至幾乎沒有時間吃便當他們所"},{"start":24377.505,"end":24402.662,"text":"犧牲的不僅是跟家人的時光那他們這一切都只是為了讓災區可以盡快的復原這些供電光是台南這次颱風就倒了2500支電桿台電已經承諾要進行電纜地下化我們國會應該要支持啊但是藍白卻人血的擋下這一筆撥補說什麼都不願意通過而且持續造謠更荒謬的是"},{"start":24404.083,"end":24420.703,"text":"關於這個超徵的稅收社福界兒少團體都一直呼籲應該要投入強化社福的基礎建設像是有心的運價補足我們非常缺乏的兒少資源甚至以及提防這個國防與基礎建設等等可是他們還是一概不聽"},{"start":24421.784,"end":24448.334,"text":"我最近有機會和學生們聊聊我就問孩子們說有普發現金你們覺得怎麼樣小孩子一開始都非常非常的開心但沒多久有一個十幾歲的學生問我說那這些錢是從哪裡來的呢是會拿我們的國防安全去換嗎如果是這樣我不要我希望我的國家把錢拿去做建設讓大家更安全更穩定的建設因為我要我的未來"},{"start":24449.514,"end":24477.028,"text":"孩子的眼睛看得見未來但是國民黨和民眾黨卻把人民當白癡真的別再騙了台灣不能這樣被掏空我們要的是穩定經濟要挺民生要護台灣不能夠用這些只是為了自己的罷免案就來綁架國家的預算這不是在玩遊戲這是我們的國家所以我也要懇請我們的民眾繼續拜託大罷免大成功"},{"start":24479.898,"end":24485.6,"text":"谢谢张亚林委员的发言接下来我们请王玉明委员发言徐新一委员请准备"},{"start":24494.69,"end":24506.043,"text":"院長各位同仁大家好我想政府存在的目的我們是要服務人民照顧人民今天政府超徵稅額113年已經高達5283億過去一年來也都還有剩餘"},{"start":24512.25,"end":24524.626,"text":"那這些錢還稅於民理所當然我們可以看到在國際上面南韓他們在今年所發出的這個金額已經高達新台幣9000億南韓能"},{"start":24528.23,"end":24550.172,"text":"為什麼台灣不能我們不是常常說好想贏南韓嗎在發現金的這件事情上如果南韓做得到我們為什麼做不到不能做呢新加坡今年二月份我訪問新加坡就在現場目睹了新加坡政府他發給新加坡人民"},{"start":24550.692,"end":24571.114,"text":"每一個人800塊的新加坡幣大家知道嗎當時我們這一團裡面帶領我們的這位大哥他知道這個訊息的時候他的雀躍跟興奮真的很難用言語形容我要告訴大家的就是或許在一些權貴的眼中一萬塊不算什麼"},{"start":24571.815,"end":24585.307,"text":"但是在老百姓的心裡在他的生活每一天這一萬塊可以做非常多的事情更何況如果是一家四口就是四萬塊一家六口就是六萬塊面對未來"},{"start":24587.749,"end":24608.24,"text":"這一個關稅的衝擊難道我們不應該超前部署嗎既然政府你有這樣的一個剩餘還稅於民我覺得是理所當然剛剛很多在野黨的委員批判發現金有多麼的不對那我就問大家在112年4月份的時候行政院"},{"start":24608.92,"end":24634.575,"text":"院長陳建仁發了現金六千塊請問你們有痛批他嗎請問你們有覺得這六千塊是浪費民脂民膏嗎有嗎如果沒有那我覺得民進黨的委員們你們就是徹徹底底的雙標了陳建仁發現金的時候就說這個是全民共享我們一起拼經濟我們一起振興台灣的經濟"},{"start":24636.116,"end":24650.907,"text":"國民黨今天主張在現在關稅當前物價高漲我們有剩餘的時候把這個錢還給人民的時候為什麼你們集體這麼的反對呢如果說這不是雙標什麼才叫做雙標"},{"start":24652.108,"end":24677.497,"text":"所以在這邊我真的要呼籲今天國民黨提出來的版本既兼顧國安又照顧人民這個整個的法案本身其實是各方面都兼具了所以請民進黨的委員不要再帶風向也不要再抹黑我們一個有為的政府真的有稅收盈餘的時候還稅於民是正當 謝謝"},{"start":24680.754,"end":24686.568,"text":"谢谢王玉明委员的发言接下来我们请徐新委员发言 牛许婷委员请准备"},{"start":24696.858,"end":24721.335,"text":"韓院長各位委員同仁以及全國的民眾大家好今天我們面對的是一場全球貿易秩序的劇烈變動美國突如其來的關稅調整在這樣的時刻我們不能再等政府慢慢的反應更不能讓產業以及勞工被動無助的面對外面的衝擊"},{"start":24722.296,"end":24738.254,"text":"所以國民黨團提出了因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安任性特別條例是為台灣建立防火牆為人民打造避震帶我們即刻行動"},{"start":24739.574,"end":24756.659,"text":"本席以下也要特別的為廣大的民意來大聲疾呼還付於民普發現金正是台灣人民最渴望的有感的正義普發現金這筆錢是每一位納稅人辛辛苦苦的納稅錢"},{"start":24757.919,"end":24774.475,"text":"也是去年政府稅收超出五千億元以上請政府普發現金一萬元讓這個溫暖直達民眾的心坎裡看看國際上新加坡普發現金每戶折合新台幣將近兩萬元"},{"start":24776.457,"end":24790.779,"text":"美國日本也在發因為他們看見了人民的需求讓人民有感所以國民黨團也希望能夠督促中央政府見閒思齊我們務必照顧民生活絡經濟"},{"start":24792.581,"end":24815.268,"text":"當一萬元普發送進每一個家庭三口人的小家庭有三萬元五口人的家庭有五萬元依此類推這可能是一筆孩子的學費也可能是一頓久違的全家聚餐甚至是一個老舊電器的更新這就是活絡經濟"},{"start":24817.169,"end":24842.109,"text":"當每個小小的願望被滿足當每一塊錢流動起來它會像春雨滋潤大地讓街頭的小吃店讓夜市的攤販甚至傳統市場裡的老闆娘都能感受到景氣的回溫這比什麼冰冷的數字遙遠的計畫更真實更有力量"},{"start":24842.89,"end":24856.983,"text":"人民的消費力才是台灣經濟最堅實的底氣請別再用大罷免的說詞來欺騙民眾普發現金是民心所向是經濟所趨"},{"start":24859.305,"end":24873.392,"text":"請大家拿出良心與勇氣共同來支持這項普發現金一萬元的福利政策還稅於民 天經地義普發現金 刻不容緩感謝大家 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匯率"},{"start":25186.378,"end":25202.55,"text":"出口產業受創匯率的波動加劇的情境之下面臨整個經濟重大的一個危機普發現金能提升民眾消費能力帶動內需的市場讓資源回歸市場與家庭協助中小企業與企業能夠度過難關發揮整個經濟的效益"},{"start":25208.695,"end":25229.163,"text":"我們可以看到政府每年稅收創新高卻面對著民眾連年漲價的壓力適時的補發現金就是最直接最有感的回饋或許無法每一個人都一夜致富但對於基層的民眾來說這筆錢是一份救急的錢"},{"start":25230.565,"end":25254.52,"text":"直接減輕了生活的壓力產生直接的幫忙我們過往看到民進黨政府超徵稅額也有普發這個時候為什麼不能夠一起採納呢所以我們希望現階段耐心的總統所說的一萬元買菜就沒了這樣的說法過於簡化了整個普發現金實質的意義還稅於民"},{"start":25255.481,"end":25266.625,"text":"普發現金是對人民納稅權益最基本的尊重讓錢從哪裡來就應該用到哪裡去公開透明接受全民檢驗"},{"start":25854.104,"end":25854.664,"text":"各位同仁我們今天看到"},{"start":25881.736,"end":25910.198,"text":"國民黨跟民眾黨一直在說要普發現金一萬塊我個人認為普發現金越多越好不過呢這個跟我們中華民國的憲法的體制有符合嗎如果是今天我們再通過這個法令可以說決定就普發現金一萬塊那以後未來的所有的預算案我們是不是也可以給它增加但"},{"start":25911.54,"end":25927.746,"text":"憲法的規定是不行啦我們立法院不能增加預算啊我們立法院只可以刪減或做監督的行為而已立法院並沒有增加預算的權利如果此例一開未來"},{"start":25929.482,"end":25956.509,"text":"不要說未來明年我們省預算的時候是不是也有很多委員會說我覺得哪個項目要多增加哪個要多增加我覺得這樣子是不行的這樣子對整個體制會有很大的影響尤其是如果政府在錢不夠的情況之下要普發一萬我覺得借錢來發這個一萬"},{"start":25958.789,"end":25972.917,"text":"你除了造成政府的負債之外你的通貨膨脹什麼的影響你要去看哪個比較划得來為什麼我說要看呢我們今天還有另外一個就是要台電的撥補一千億"},{"start":25975.255,"end":26000.832,"text":"過去幾年德國在2023年也是補貼能源價格煞車制度補貼了大概5200億台幣在日本2023至2025以緩解電力和天然氣價格措施跟他的庫屬緊急援助及新經濟對策對物價上漲兩項措施他分別補貼了5500億跟2800億的台幣"},{"start":26006.567,"end":26033.768,"text":"其他各國為什麼要這樣做因為你的物價的影響如果差個0.5%對整個經濟影響非常的大那今天台電他為什麼我們要補貼他因為從COVID-19疫情期間他已經吸收了不少的成本然後這幾年因為俄烏戰爭全球的物價上漲他也吸收了"},{"start":26035.131,"end":26059.403,"text":"更多的成本他已經吸收了幾千億我們如果撥補台電一千億可以讓我們台電他的整個這個財務穩定他可以不用調高電價他不用調高電價我們的所有工商業包括我們所有的民生用電都可以平穩這樣才不會造成台灣物價的波動"},{"start":26064.36,"end":26069.403,"text":"主席在場的委員先進這幾天颱風沒有停電的地方很多人在家看網路我看到一個網路流傳的影片差點眼淚掉出來"},{"start":26093.902,"end":26123.075,"text":"他是一對護理師他們在颱風天強風下要趕去醫院值班結果兩位小姐就被風吹著在地上滾了滾連爬回到醫院去值班不顧身上多處擦傷留意人民眾都說好偉大的醫護人員台灣人引以為傲的健保原來是建立在這些辛苦的醫護人員在當大家停班停課的當下他們仍然要勇敢的冒著風雨去醫院值班"},{"start":26124.016,"end":26137.061,"text":"是的在台灣遭到風災襲擊的時候台電的工作人員也在此時此刻還在為雲嘉南的電力系統的搶修付出了他們的辛勞"},{"start":26138.564,"end":26165.756,"text":"有人說對於颱風的印象小朋友的印象是什麼呢我在小朋友的時候我的印象是颱風不是停班停課是停電而且我的父親絕對不會在家因為剛巧我父親是台電的員工作為台電的子弟我們很習慣只要有狂風暴雨台電的工作人員不管是工程人員一線的還是業務人員通通要出去尋線路"},{"start":26167.23,"end":26195.577,"text":"沒有錯今天我們便利的生活就是這些辛苦的台電員工秉持的台電精神而為我們打造的我實在很難理解藍白在野黨是跟台電有仇嗎是跟大家的平穩用電有仇嗎一千億的補貼並不是台電員工揮霍掉的也不是經營不善搞掉的是因為當時戰亂歐戰爭世界原物料上漲造成的結果"},{"start":26196.377,"end":26215.57,"text":"如果今天我們不給這一千億債長堅持要來普發現金造成的結果電價上漲可能一年要多七千五百元的電費然而通貨膨脹還要增加三千六百元這是平均每個人去算每年今年領的一萬現金到了明年"},{"start":26216.994,"end":26225.358,"text":"物價通膨上來了下不去我們每個人要繼續承受這樣的通膨物價上漲我們每年可以來發一萬的現金嗎"},{"start":26227.605,"end":26240.154,"text":"本來行政院提出的方案是4100億是用稅計剩餘現在國民黨的朱主席說好沒關係那兩權齊美我們加上2350億來發現金那麼6150億好不好結果國民黨的立法委員反對他說這是面子問題這是異常問題台電的1000億說是不能給然後堅持要發一萬的現金"},{"start":26252.142,"end":26276.058,"text":"我真的不能理解領現金領得開心往後我們能夠每年發現金嗎在這裡誠懇的請我們選區的每一個選民監督你選區的立委只要他反對台電波幅一千億他要發現金我們就謝謝鍾嘉賓委員發言接下來我們請陳俊宇委員發言武力華委員請準備"},{"start":26288.595,"end":26299.629,"text":"感謝議長,各位同仁,因應最近國際經濟損失萬變,包括關稅的淡化,共產黨的政策都在持續進行當中,面對地緣政策的變化,特政威脅氣氛也不斷地上升。"},{"start":26307.259,"end":26332.196,"text":"行政院這次所提出488頁的特別條例不但是要回應全球 降低經濟快速的變革充分利用我們經濟發展的成果來降低國際經濟變動對台灣所造成的影響更是要顧及我們的民生要來替我們的三峽共和國家安全的一項重要法案當前在討論特別條例的過程當中"},{"start":26333.177,"end":26353.329,"text":"一直強調無論是強化國土安全的運行或是對於台電報報以上都是完全緊急需要的要維護國家利益的優先做可能才是對的中共對於我們文攻武協從來不要檢討過這時候我們看到中共"},{"start":26356.976,"end":26384.383,"text":"軍隊在鋪石地帶擾亂台灣也越來越變幻警察常常遭到各種嚴肅的命運不斷對台灣周邊的海部空母來進行騷擾面對各種安全威脅的警察我們積極投入自然共和自我豐富的力量這1500億的國土安全以上對於國家安全有明確必要性的緊急訴求"},{"start":26386.04,"end":26403.915,"text":"可以補足現住室設備的寬闊空間共和主通作業環境的這個輪廓提升總比的效能讓我們第一線執行的國軍海巡的兄弟姊妹更加有信心來臨對敵人每一次的尋釀這是讓他們最大的這個支持但是很危險在亞東今天是在國土以勝雄準備要再出口"},{"start":26412.021,"end":26420.745,"text":"發生不必彌補台電開設的這個儀式,台電溫健、營運、電力應用、發電,對於我們全台灣民生物業的這個運動、經濟、商業的發展,是一個不可欠缺的力量。台電一直支持著國家的進步,希望我們國會也能"},{"start":26432.197,"end":26445.868,"text":"給台電充足的支持大家應該無分動盤在這個時刻共同來承擔去修復國家的責任不該將個人的利益放在國家之上錢要用在土口上開始拿在在野黨的主張之下將對於台電補貼的這個意思專屬來刪除另外要替國家的錢來破壞現金以撲出民眾的殭屍"},{"start":26460.04,"end":26484.202,"text":"各位 拿我們的錢 做人的人情 要來救他們自己的白面這才是對國家最好的做法我們一定要看好錢 人好命各位如果正常 台灣才可以穩健 輕輕走大白面謝謝感謝陳俊宇委員的發言 謝謝接下來我們請武力華委員發言賴世寶委員請準備"},{"start":26494.828,"end":26508.16,"text":"謝謝院長首先呢非常的感謝在野黨在這幾年來不斷提出要普發現金我想這就是代表對執政黨經濟的一個肯定以去年2024來說"},{"start":26510.061,"end":26538.808,"text":"全年我们的经济成长率表现非常亮眼高达4.3%所以当经济有盈余有税收超征我们才有条件讨论所谓的普发但是我们看到在野党嘴巴一边说经济崩溃人民活不下去一边又每年喊着说要普发现金这不是很矛盾吗如果经济真的像蓝白所说的很惨"},{"start":26539.268,"end":26567.891,"text":"那麼這些錢從哪裡來要不是我們的產業有撐住出口稅收有一定的動能政府呢哪裡有餘力來討論如何分配盈餘那我們的政府比超過預期可以收到更多的稅我們是需要來補弱勢補高教補國防補國土韌性補需要補強的地方讓明年讓未來可以更好"},{"start":26568.571,"end":26593.644,"text":"這就是所謂的資源再分配取之於民用之於民這個是很多納稅人他們所樂見的因為他們會希望他們的財富可以有受到保護弱勢的人呢也可以因此得到更多的資源但是我們可以看到所謂的普發現金如果都只是無差別的丟出去"},{"start":26594.204,"end":26611.003,"text":"那麼真正需要幫助的人呢真正需要補強的國家社會建設呢真的會因此來獲利嗎所以在這個地方我們要特別的提到姑且不論那些低收入戶該不該多發一些"},{"start":26611.623,"end":26639.963,"text":"身心障碍者长期照顾需求者要不要多发一些但是我们有很多所谓的处境不利的公民是不是都需要多发一些可是我们还是要回归到我们的经济面虽然我们走过了饱受通膨的2024我们表现亮眼但是因为川普2.0全球预期我们恐怕今年2025恐怕还不能够饱三"},{"start":26640.623,"end":26655.555,"text":"可是現在我們因為俄烏戰爭國家的燃料價格暴漲我們的台電如果沒有經費撐住供電穩定電價一漲我們全民都要過苦日子可是我們卻"},{"start":26656.516,"end":26678.854,"text":"沒有要去補我們的電費而是想普發再說我們面對中國的威脅越來越多我們卻沒有想要補國防加強海巡我們把財政紀律丟到腦後不免要懷疑為了討好選民躲過罷免人民的眼睛雪亮小心適得其反救得了一時救不了7月26大"},{"start":26683.889,"end":26709.591,"text":"謝謝武麗華委員的發言接下來我們請賴世寶委員發言徐副委員請準備太高了沒問題時間暫停沒問題"},{"start":26735.295,"end":26760.542,"text":"謝謝院長以及各位先進我剛才聽到不少位偉大的民進黨政治家們一直講一句話舉債普發現金舉債普發現金拜託各位論輸的時候用一點功好不好這是我們的國家的稅計勝利國家的超收的稅金拿來還稅移民還錢移民"},{"start":26763.34,"end":26792.749,"text":"這是不同的概念沒有舉債啊哪裡有舉債過去四年加起來總共的數字我們超整了一兆八真正實際用掉的只有三十千億國家還有錢啊為什麼韓國新加坡可以還錢漁民台灣就不可以台灣就需要收到執政黨這樣子百般苛刻惡毒的聲音在這裡各位"},{"start":26794.639,"end":26815.688,"text":"我前一陣子舉辦了公聽會有學者提到學者提到要普發現金可以用經濟成長率跟稅收成長率就不會有你們講的說這是作帳的問題財政部低估了我們看經濟成長率去年4%"},{"start":26818.33,"end":26839.801,"text":"稅收成長率去年多少?百分之八稅收成長率是經濟成長率的兩倍就代表超收嘛超收哪一點還給老百姓有什麼不對為什麼一定要放在爛性的口袋裡面為什麼一定要放在要著弄在口袋裡面你們去用不能給老百姓用一點"},{"start":26841.281,"end":26856.922,"text":"為什麼這個樣子特別是現在大家最關心的台灣的關稅到底談多少最樂觀的說15%到20%但不要忘了我們的稅率漲了13%所以加起來就是28%以上"},{"start":26859.902,"end":26886.081,"text":"這樣子的一個情況之下台灣需要內需市場台灣需要我們老百姓多一點錢可以去消費刺激經濟我們都知道經濟學理論講得非常清楚外銷是一個經濟成長的動力內需佔台灣60%給老百姓一點點的錢這是多跟老百姓收的"},{"start":26887.506,"end":26907.135,"text":"已經累積的時候一兆多一兆多我們就拿個兩千多億值得你們這樣子一直罵嗎這個其實沒有道理各位我們講數字講道理全世界最關心的就是關稅的問題台灣命令到關稅還沒有確定是多少"},{"start":26908.328,"end":26910.91,"text":"謝謝賴思寶委員的發言接下來我們請徐富奎委員發言林思敏委員請準備"},{"start":26940.417,"end":26963.701,"text":"謝謝主席 各位同仁 我想剛剛聽到國民黨跟民眾黨的委員提到的部分 他們口口聲聲都在提醒我們的百姓 這個要普發現金但是他們忘了最基本的一個原因 他們如果過去不要亂砍預算能夠支持中央的一個建設 包含地方的建設 我想讓百工百業都能夠"},{"start":26964.462,"end":26979.265,"text":"新盛讓大家都能夠安居樂業大家都不會避難在一萬塊的現金我想這才是我們大家期待的部分那這一次丹尼斯颱風重創我們這樣子一個江南地區我想台電的同仁"},{"start":26980.166,"end":27005.986,"text":"動員了這個全國各區處的超過九成的人力在幫我們搶修電力我想點亮光明當我們看到大家有電來很高興但是他們累得在路邊這個滿身泥濘的吃便當甚至有的人這個很辛苦的這樣睡一睡我想這樣的畫面讓我們真的很感動在這邊我們也要幫台電的同仁表達最高的敬意"},{"start":27006.466,"end":27035.192,"text":"那他們為了解決民生問題犧牲了他們自己個人的時間我想台電撥補的預算並不是為了民進黨的需求而是需要全民的一個支持跟諒解我想這也是用來補貼我們一千四百萬民生用電用戶的一個成本差距是為了支持國人的一個日常用電更是支持台灣的一個經濟的一個穩定這樣的一個需求我想我們都希望在野黨能夠支持"},{"start":27035.672,"end":27063.609,"text":"但是很遺憾的他們不但不支持這樣的一個案子甚至我想我們除了這個電力的一個需求之外更重要我們每逢天災颱風的時候我們更需要的是一個台灣整個一個韌性電網的一個支持那這個部分因為台電沒有一千億的預算所以在很多地方的一個韌性電網的設置是遇到很大的一個阻力這樣的一個狀況我想讓我們很憂心在野黨"},{"start":27064.849,"end":27090.299,"text":"風綠必反我想這樣的一個概念不但是毫無環保永續的觀念更是我想對台灣的一個災難電力的供應不但是一個民生供應鏈的穩定更是國家安全的一個穩定我想面對中共不斷的欺壓台灣我們除了需要國家的安全之外我想更重要就是一個我們國防的一個預算的提升那這次特別預算我想我們也"},{"start":27091.803,"end":27106.971,"text":"要求加強我們整建國軍的一個設備設施也加強我們一個治安防護的一個能力但是很遺憾國民黨還是不支持那而且他們更令人令人遺憾的是他們提出的版本我想真的"},{"start":27107.771,"end":27124.65,"text":"每次都是到我們快要表決的時候才看得到這個版本到底他們在做什麼我們真的三不贊我想說的一切就只有一個目的他們為了拯救罷免的一個危機所以他們的目的就是用這樣的一個政策"},{"start":27132.042,"end":27138.087,"text":"好 谢谢徐富奎委员的发言接下来我们请林思明委员发言 黄建豪委员请准备"},{"start":27147.369,"end":27159.706,"text":"好 謝謝院長 各位先進今天國民黨為因應國際情勢的變化提出的強化經濟社會及民眾消費任性特別條例要求政府應編列5450億的特別預算"},{"start":27162.509,"end":27184.116,"text":"運用債包含提供企業金融支持提升產業競爭力與支持勞工安定就業強化農業金融支持強化高等教育人才培育益助全民健康保險基金以及勞工保險基金加強照顧弱勢族群以及提供關懷服務強化國土繁衛能量及提升資通作業環境設備"},{"start":27185.717,"end":27200.044,"text":"而其中最為我們人民關注的就是還稅漁民普發現金一萬元建議振興我們的民生經濟消費以協助人民渡過困境沒想到竟然遭到民進黨的阻擋"},{"start":27201.264,"end":27225.516,"text":"過去蔡英文總統時代為因應當時的經濟成長與民眾生活的困境總共發放了三次的現金或購物券給民眾其中包含了2020年發放振興三倍券2021年的五倍券以及2023年運用我們超生的稅收普發現金六千元還稅於民"},{"start":27226.997,"end":27249.814,"text":"事實證明確實帶來振興經濟與刺激消費的效果現在民進黨為了大二霸不惜著是今非賴清德政府可以說執政換了腦袋打臉蔡英文執政的政策不願普發現金還稅於民賴清德總統上台就換了腦袋嗎我們"},{"start":27255.43,"end":27273.94,"text":"我們認為普發現金才是真正能夠對我們整個民眾的一個照顧我們再看看鄰近的國家韓國將於7月21日啟動普發現金而新加坡更是6度的環稅移民預計發送每戶接近2萬元台幣的里林購物券"},{"start":27275.001,"end":27289.338,"text":"兩國政府都是在積極應對美國高關稅所帶來的經濟挑戰唯獨我們的政府對國人的需求卻是斤斤計較民進黨政府應該比照新加坡韓國的方式盡速發放現金還稅於民"},{"start":27292.361,"end":27307.399,"text":"另外提出普發現金一萬元的主張也進行過網路投票的調查有接近八成的民眾贊成因此於國人面臨可能的經濟生活困境時普發現金是再正確源"},{"start":27308.2,"end":27330.356,"text":"也不過民進黨不要手握超額稅收一直欺騙我們台灣人民還稅於民發放現金一萬元最實在發放現金還稅於民已經是全民的共識尤其現在因應高關稅產業又將面臨窘境如何刺激民生經濟唯有靠普發現金像去年政府又超徵5283億"},{"start":27351.323,"end":27357.49,"text":"谢谢林思敏委员的发言接下来我们请黄建豪委员发言谢龙健委员请准备"},{"start":27366.503,"end":27384.811,"text":"好 謝謝主席 在場各位委員2022年的時候全國稅收超徵4500億元我們引述2023年2月21號公視新聞的晚間報導當天通過了疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別條例普發現金入法全民普發6000元請問當時有罷免案嗎"},{"start":27388.26,"end":27417.119,"text":"那這新聞裡面當時的民進黨委員說每一項都是台灣所需不是政策買票更沒有空白授權怎麼到了今天2025年的7月11號你提的時候就是台灣需要我們提就變成政策買票今天我們希望通過因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安任性特別條例草案提出的原因很清楚就是要因應國際情勢全國民眾都希望現金在手渡過難關"},{"start":27418.8,"end":27441.726,"text":"今年的超增稅收5283億當然也希望能夠比照過去不只是全民要共享經濟成果更是要幫助全民因應國際情勢與其把這個5283億交由政府分配到不知道哪裡去我想每個家庭每個個人都希望能夠依據自身的狀況來安排這筆錢的出處"},{"start":27443.146,"end":27467.812,"text":"另外用台電基層很辛苦以及電費可能漲價來當作理由要求的一千一補貼我們要問這次的風災我們看到了我國的能源政策跟基礎設施的脆弱不管是山上海邊海上水庫裡水塘邊還有在天空中飛來飛去的光電板這些實質的破壞這對國土的破碎這些廠商造成的損失有人負責了嗎"},{"start":27469.492,"end":27478.082,"text":"這幾年這些廠商賺得盆滿缽滿台電卻連年虧損那現在這些吸血寄生國庫寄生台電廠商到底付出了什麼"},{"start":27479.304,"end":27493.994,"text":"錢他賺走了現在善後卻又要用人民的納稅錢再一次的掏空再一次的掏出來這合理嗎今天我們到底站在這邊是要把關還是要繼續放任那我們就從2022年2023年2024年陸陸續續我們目前總共已經補貼了3000億給台電電價照樣上漲"},{"start":27502.299,"end":27517.137,"text":"那昨天經濟部還發了一個新聞稿說就算這個一千億新的一千億又補給他他還是不能排除動漲電價他還是要漲價那這種虧錢的結構沒有改變我們這個錢就算補下去他照樣丟到水裡面啊"},{"start":27518.118,"end":27531.582,"text":"那這一千億到底這一千億現在大家拿台電員工很辛苦出來當擋箭牌那我們就問這一千億補下去請問難道是給台電員工嗎還是又被這些廠商賺走繼續掏空國庫繼續破壞我們的國土"},{"start":27533.991,"end":27559.3,"text":"最後有委員說現階段要處理風災的問題我想我們沒有反對意見但是要拜託如果要處理風災要處理相關的補助要處理相關的救災活動請行政院盡快提出版本到立法院我想朝野立委都會支持謝謝謝謝黃建豪委員的發言接下來請謝榮健委員發言陳冠廷委員請準備"},{"start":27575.523,"end":27578.144,"text":"各位專國的鄉親 大家好兩年前 老總統 他說民進黨兩個最嚴重的問題第一是黑金 他非常聽心第二是論文兩年來 民進黨的黑金還沒清去老總統有時候會感覺心優於立不足"},{"start":27605.714,"end":27629.62,"text":"我有點鼓勵 穿好衣服 要穿好褲子過去 太陽能發電有很多過程糟糕他也想要把穿好衣服穿掉一個風太大到底有漂亮不漂亮還是裡面都長鬼 大家看得很清楚"},{"start":27631.721,"end":27642.063,"text":"這個錢補給台電的 台電會再送給這個太陽林的公司這樣不斷地損款糾結 羅總統也是很痛心心憂鬱 力不足 要拿出聘約這個錢要發給台灣人民付錢他們說要發錢 顧為鄉親啦 不是發錢啦這是你的錢"},{"start":27658.735,"end":27668.663,"text":"過去五年來,我們的政府酬收的稅金一條八千億,今年就五千兩百八十三億。我們一人提供你一萬,提回給你這是你的錢,才兩千三百四十億。"},{"start":27678.587,"end":27705.054,"text":"當然民進黨一幫有錢的人就反對啊為什麼因為這兩千三百億如果沒有拿給你留在這裡政府的發包他們就有得當他們就有得要求他們就有得要專家有得要選我發給你 什麼人敢跟你求五百八百沒人敢 對不對所以在野黨 主張退水還水移民"},{"start":27706.121,"end":27721.569,"text":"合情 合理 盤不折去 心碎沒去白痴若有一萬塊 她可以掏一口氣一個家庭若有四塊 就可以掐死那四萬今天若真有這錢 來發錢給你 我反對"},{"start":27725.27,"end":27738.879,"text":"今天政府機制 你不付錢 你要打中年充胖子 我也反對今天不是 我們美人要有美 台灣的財政健康我們簽一條百姓規約 花費你2340億 還要給一條三姓用錢的喔 政府還要做好事"},{"start":27748.746,"end":27757.713,"text":"所以大家不要煩惱 做你錢要拿起來好好地開 好好地過日子對你擔保要彌補利益啦"},{"start":27783.567,"end":27805.487,"text":"各位同仁大家好那根據農業部的統計這次颱風災損最嚴重的地區是包含嘉南那風災之後接下來就是豪雨包含台中還有中部地區跟南部地區全部都受到非常大的損失那損失裡面嘉義大概佔的是四成"},{"start":27806.73,"end":27830.925,"text":"這次台電統計嘉義縣就有近12萬戶停電那全國的這個電感導斷的紀錄是超過2500那是刷新蘇德颯風的紀錄那這一次的風災造成的基礎建設的損毀程度是史無前例是沒有前例的程度那對於重建的難度跟能力的調度挑戰都是非常的嚴峻"},{"start":27832.335,"end":27861.745,"text":"那這個時候我們在野黨有提出來的2300億那就是普發的這個狀況我認為我們必須要重新思考一下資金要怎麼樣的分配資源要怎麼樣的分配不是每個人給一萬而是讓現在我們的國民受到災情最嚴重影響最大最弱勢的災民農民他能夠有機會得到救助金所以包含過去"},{"start":27863.288,"end":27879.057,"text":"我們現在手上拿的是過去穆拉克颱風穆拉克颱風災後重建的特別條例我想我們現在要思考的是如何把資源提供給我們最需要的民眾不是一人一萬而是有責任的重建受災的每一吋土地"},{"start":27880.792,"end":27897.253,"text":"現在我必須要強調包含我們中華經濟研究院都有提出來普發現金雖然表面上是人人有感但實際上許多的民眾是選擇把現金儲蓄起來它對於刺激消費跟內需效果是有限的"},{"start":27897.714,"end":27918.947,"text":"可是如果你們思考一下這一次受損嘉南地區包含溫室網室包含未來的這個農業耗材重建的這些經費災損這些都是需要我們把資源放進去的所以我必須很誠懇的請我們在野黨的同仁能夠思考一下"},{"start":27920.014,"end":27940.093,"text":"把普發現金這樣子的金額做這樣子的分配是不是能夠最有效的刺激內需還是用類似正願來去做重整把資源再去思考的分配讓我們不僅可以刺激內需市場還能夠幫助到現在受損的災民"},{"start":27941.034,"end":27964.44,"text":"這不僅僅是嘉義而已嘉義台南高雄屏東包含台中其實在這一次的風災還有接下來的好雨塵災都受到很重大的影響所以包含電力穩定包含資通安全跟老舊電網的更新等等我們希望再一次的跟我們所有現在的在野黨的同仁說可不可以思考一下把資源放給在區"},{"start":27969.147,"end":27975.04,"text":"谢谢陈冠廷委员的发言接下来我们请徐毅正委员发言侯孟凯委员请准备"},{"start":27985.27,"end":27999.659,"text":"主席以及全國的民眾大家好丹納斯颱風橫掃台灣重創農業造成超過20億元的損失許多農民一夕之間血本無歸蔬果的價格飆漲庶民的三餐更加艱難"},{"start":28000.66,"end":28014.862,"text":"重建工作尚未展開生活的重擔卻早已落在人民的肩頭美國對等關稅政策衝擊台灣的出口產業已有不少工廠縮減產能放無薪假家庭的收入大幅減少"},{"start":28015.743,"end":28042.053,"text":"民眾不是奢望過好日子只是希望撐過眼前這段難熬的時間保有最基本的尊嚴跟喘息的機會在這樣的時刻國民黨團主張還錢於民政府應將超增稅收還給人民普發現金每人一萬元這不是施捨而是正義是政府照顧人民最基本的責任根據財政部的公布2024年"},{"start":28043.473,"end":28065.961,"text":"政府的稅收超征5283億元創下歷史新高回顧近四年政府超征高達一兆8700億元但真正用於還債的不到三成將人民的血汗錢一面撒錢補貼特定的產業一面預算黑箱養肥特定利益團體這種雙標操作早已讓國人看破手腳"},{"start":28069.242,"end":28093.267,"text":"民進黨政府一再以維護財政紀律為由拒絕普發現金彷彿人民多領一點錢就會拖垮國家然而2023年政府也曾普發現金當時還大力宣傳全民共享經濟成果今年為何又說不行難道是因為經濟更差人民更苦更不值得幫助嗎"},{"start":28094.227,"end":28120.723,"text":"主計總署公布五月平均的總薪資達六萬兩千元這樣的數字離庶民太遙遠我們接觸的勞工年輕人家庭主婦有哪一個可以拿到這麼多的薪水哪一個不是在物價高漲下精打細算咬牙苦撐對企業來說衝擊也同樣嚴重出口疲弱工廠放假產能下降這一萬元對不少家庭來說可能是最後一根救命的稻草"},{"start":28121.383,"end":28142.618,"text":"其他國家也在行動新加坡將再度發放每人約兩萬元的補助金南韓更通過高達新台幣九千億的追加預算就是要發現金給全民穩住內需這些不是口號也不是浪費而是政府對人民最直接的支持取之於民用之於民是國家的本分"},{"start":28143.018,"end":28165.848,"text":"一萬元或許對政府的預算來說只是一個數字但是對百姓而言可能是一筆救命錢是孩子的學費是爺爺的藥費百分之六點三的民眾是支持普發現金當政府失能普發現金一萬元就不是大撒幣而是讓人民在通膨的壓力之下有一筆可以自由支配的緩衝金人民的錢應該還給人民"},{"start":28169.537,"end":28170.518,"text":"主席各位同仁"},{"start":28187.598,"end":28204.353,"text":"兩年前記得也是在國會當時的蘇內閣講說要普發現金六千元還講說是要全民共享經濟成果當時特別強調超徵稅收並不是國家超徵而是因為經濟表現亮眼"},{"start":28205.613,"end":28225.131,"text":"過去到現在短短幾年超徵稅收總共高達一兆八千多億光去年就超徵了五千兩百多億元如果說現在真的是國家經濟表現亮眼的話現在討論的強化社會經濟韌性不就更應該要讓全民共享經濟的成果嗎"},{"start":28226.332,"end":28249.167,"text":"這不是你 這不是我 這不是只有我們個人的事情而是全國2350萬人大家共同面對因為我們現在面對到的一個是全球美國關稅的議題不管是匯率現在已經上升10%或者是現在談判還沒有一個確認的結果到底最終結果會為何 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各位同仁今天我們提出普發現金一萬元的訴求不只是政策選項的討論更是回應社會現實的迫切需要近年來家庭開支不斷增加從電價調升 物價攀升到全球貿易關稅緊張帶來的進出口壓力老百姓的生活"},{"start":28620.038,"end":28642.348,"text":"處處吃緊我們希望透過這項補助讓民眾能夠及時直接的得到支持還稅於民還錢給人民不應只是口號而是財政資源分配的一項合理選擇以去年為例中央政府稅入超過預期達5283億元"},{"start":28646.57,"end":28673.193,"text":"若用其中的2300億元普發現金每人一萬元也佔不到四成所以這不是國庫無法負擔的金額而是政府願不願意優先關心人民的生活日常壓力過去四年我們政府的超生稅收高達一兆八千元"},{"start":28674.255,"end":28688.815,"text":"一兆八千亿元既然政府有能力灵活的运用财政资源就应该回应民众的生活所需而不是让资源留在账面上让压力落在人民身上"},{"start":28690.086,"end":28698.071,"text":"像其他的國家新加坡已決定從8月開始因收入層級發放1萬至2萬新幣現金韓國也通過高達45.6兆韓元的預算案預計本月21號就會開始普發現金這些都是面對經濟困難時經濟壓力時政府選擇與人民共度難關的實例"},{"start":28721.748,"end":28732.219,"text":"民進黨政府真的有站在人民這一邊嗎民進黨政府如何讓民眾有信心挺過這一波波的挑戰"},{"start":28734.778,"end":28761.524,"text":"所以我們主張普發一萬元不只是因應關稅衝擊更是因為人民正面對著電價漲物價漲關稅壓力接踵而來這筆錢是政府對人民生活壓力的一種重視與回應不是恩惠不是施捨更不是所謂的大罷免大買票而是此時此刻應該做"},{"start":28762.884,"end":28781.077,"text":"也做得到的事情谢谢大家希望大家共同支持普发现金一万元谢谢张家俊委员的发言我们接下来请颜宽恒委员发言林德福委员请准备"},{"start":28787.403,"end":28812.674,"text":"好 謝謝主席今天要審議的就是強化經濟社會及國土安全任性特別條例內容包括經濟支持方案社會支持面向撥補健保基金等其中最重要的就是還稅漁民普發現金一萬塊執政黨要撥補台電的一千億元難道會分給因為風災到現在還在努力搶修的基層勞工嗎絕對不會"},{"start":28815.545,"end":28843.137,"text":"撥補台電的一千億難道能夠保證未來就不會漲電價嗎不可能台電的虧損就是能源政策的錯誤補再多都沒有用所以說還稅於民就是最直接讓民眾度過這次美國關稅的風波目前為了因應台美關稅戰還有全球經濟壓力越來越嚴峻中小企業與基層民眾是首當其衝苦不堪言"},{"start":28844.287,"end":28863.083,"text":"執政黨卻仍然無視民生的困境我們應該要站在民眾與中小企業的立場今天要透過特別條例普發現金一萬塊編列兩千三百億直接回饋全民真正發揮刺激內需紓困住民的實際活動"},{"start":28865.489,"end":28884.694,"text":"我們來看看鄰近的國家新加坡將在8月6日發放每人近2萬元台幣的現金補助韓國7月21日也會啟動普發現金兩次追加預算總額高達新台幣9000多億元各國都很積極應對這次的挑戰反觀執政黨對經濟補助僅編列930億"},{"start":28892.318,"end":28905.721,"text":"根本是杯水車薪連韓國普發現金預算的三分之一都遠遠不及執政黨更是不願意納入2300億的普發現金預算現在產業界都急得跳腳"},{"start":28906.909,"end":28928.108,"text":"大家都預估衝擊會來得很大更不要說會有多少民眾間接受到裁員失業的影響如果關稅風波持續物價指數飆升痛苦的只會是老百姓所以請大家跟我們一起支持納入2300億的普發現金預算世界各國可以"},{"start":28928.564,"end":28956.633,"text":"我們一定也可以再說一次還稅於民就是最直接讓民眾度過這次美國關稅風波以上謝謝嚴寬衡委員的發言 謝謝接下來請林德福委員發言林德福委員發言林德福委員發言不在場我們再接下來請羅明財委員發言"},{"start":28966.445,"end":28994.048,"text":"韓院長各位委員同仁各位媒體記者先生小姐今天本席來這裡發言最重要是代表全民的意志代表多數人來告訴所有的委員我們需要這一萬塊一萬塊是什麼概念在某些人的眼裡"},{"start":28995.458,"end":29014.66,"text":"可能買個菜就一萬塊可能去美容打個美容針就一萬塊可是莫忘世上苦人多各位親愛的委員一萬塊是什麼來 看在我手上"},{"start":29028.883,"end":29043.552,"text":"一萬塊就是十個一千一萬塊就是一百個一百一萬塊就是一千個十塊"},{"start":29045.404,"end":29074.509,"text":"每當我經過台大醫院我經過南京東路台北市各個角落的時候當我看到需要金錢幫助的這些國人有的跪在地上淘汰有的拿著一個碗在那邊一直拜託買他的玉蘭花的時候我心裡有多麼的沉重有多麼的痛"},{"start":29076.104,"end":29105.039,"text":"莫忘世上苦人多這是我們韓院長講的事實上在上一次普發獻祭的時候大家都說不重要不重要有99%以上通通都去領了這個錢啊所以今天的條例拜託各位滾滾諸公心中有人民心中有愛需要錢的人很多啊因為"},{"start":29106.974,"end":29114.939,"text":"一人領一萬快樂常相伴一人領一萬大人小孩通通有希望"},{"start":29116.075,"end":29143.191,"text":"你為什麼要斷送這些在經濟邊緣需要這一萬塊的所有年輕人的一點小確幸你為什麼要反對發給需要這一萬塊的所有單親媽媽有多少老人多久沒拿到錢了拜託大家支持今天的條例今天不分藍綠我問一下現場不願意領一萬塊的請舉手"},{"start":29146.94,"end":29165.838,"text":"沒有吧 大家都是要支持的所以拜託好 謝謝羅明財委員的發言等一下"},{"start":29166.756,"end":29185.74,"text":"報院會特別在這裡要跟院會報告依照黨團共事五點鐘要表決所以在四點五十三分我們將會按鈴七分鐘呼籲所有的委員準備進入議場請委員準時進入議場參與表決接下來我們請楊瓊英委員發言審發會委請準備"},{"start":29200.656,"end":29216.282,"text":"親愛的院會主席 韓院長 各位同仁 新會見的朋友 楊瓊瑜法院今天立法院審議強化經濟社會與國土安全任性特別條例國民黨堅持一件事情 還錢給人民 普發現金一萬元"},{"start":29217.422,"end":29242.091,"text":"為什麼呢因為我們知道現在人民真的很苦物價飆漲電費房租樣樣都漲但薪水停滯一杯咖啡九萬六百本都變貴人民的收入沒有跟上這不是口號是大家每天活生生的生活節照但同時政府稅收是年年的超增2024年我們的稅收達到"},{"start":29245.812,"end":29262.278,"text":"3.7兆以上超征达到5000亿以上创下了历史新高这些钱不是天上掉下来这些钱是人民辛苦工作省吃俭用的血汗钱理当应当要还给人民"},{"start":29262.958,"end":29285.608,"text":"看看新加坡他们已经发放了六次的消费券甚至在今年他们更发放给人民将近两万块的新台币这就是帮助人民缓解了高物价的压力这就是政府应该要做的反观我们的政府年年超收但是却不愿意发钱"},{"start":29286.448,"end":29312.211,"text":"超收不去檢討整個的預估機制每年的還債的數字又是少之又少動不動就說沒錢甚至來攻擊在野黨政治操弄但是到底是誰在玩弄政治呢誰在拒絕把錢還給納稅人人民看得很清楚有人說發錢沒用啦 沒有用但是我想要問"},{"start":29313.332,"end":29330.155,"text":"這一些說話是對誰說呢?是對冷氣房裡面的高官嗎?還是對在每天拿最低薪資從早到晚到深夜加班的勞工一萬塊零零沒什麼但是很多人來說是一個喘口氣的機會是一筆房租一筆補給費或是就醫的保障是一點點生活的一個尊嚴"},{"start":29342.777,"end":29364.927,"text":"我們不該讓人民為了自己的稅金還要低聲下氣更不該讓政府把錢只有撥補給特定的大企業卻對全體的百姓說政府沒錢我們要說得非常非常的清楚政府的錢不是一個黨的錢是全民的錢"},{"start":29366.547,"end":29382.191,"text":"發現金讓人民自己決定怎麼用這才是真正的紓困這才是真正的刺激經濟所以拜託我們所有的委員一起協助民眾還錢於民謝謝楊瓊英委員發言接下來我們請省發會委員發言林怡金委員請準備"},{"start":29409.141,"end":29432.788,"text":"各位同仁,我今天非常仔細的聆聽整天有關於大家針對今天特別條例的發言現在發言已經接近尾聲了,即將要進行表決所以我來幫協助大家,大家聽得很快協助大家來做一個簡單的總整理我們今天所審查的,是因應國際情勢的衝擊強化經濟社會韌性的特別條例"},{"start":29435.779,"end":29461.593,"text":"他這是特別預算的一個法源未來依據這個特別條例會送特別預算進來那這裡面今天所大家所談論從早上到現在談論最關鍵的就是兩個條文就這個條例裡面的第三條他規定了未來預算的支應項目有哪一些再來就是第八條欸第六條第六條他規定了整個這一次要送進來特別預算他的總金額那這兩條的爭議"},{"start":29464.847,"end":29485.906,"text":"大家因為過去一年半 國民黨跟民眾黨兩黨藍白的立委大家在過去一年半狼狽為奸 沆瀣一氣所以大家都把他和在一起 今天和在一起罵其實我們仔細看今天其實這兩個黨 他們所提的是兩個不同的法案所以他們這一次 他們是各自為奸 沆瀣兩氣"},{"start":29491.055,"end":29513.183,"text":"所以我們來看他的版本 國民黨的版本他做了什麼 國民黨版本 他刪除了這個第三條第六款有關於易駐台電的文字 他把它刪除了他增加第十一款這個發放現金每人一萬元 增加了這個項目那在第六條的部分 他把預算總額從4100億提高 增加了1350億 提高到5450億"},{"start":29518.154,"end":29530.183,"text":"那這個什麼問題大家今天都講到了他就赤裸裸直接的違反了憲法的第70條立法院對行政院所提的預算不得增加支出之提議就直接違反了那民眾黨的版本不一樣民眾黨的版本"},{"start":29535.708,"end":29561.483,"text":"他一樣刪除了原來第六款的這個藝術台電他把它移到第七款那他們增列了第六款發放現金每人六千元這是民眾黨的版本更嚴重的民眾黨的版本直接在第九款把它直接刪除了他刪除了強化國土防衛能力的這個項目他直接把國防預算相關的預算直接在這裡全數刪除了"},{"start":29564.244,"end":29593.707,"text":"但是民眾黨他很聰明他因為他以為他知道這個憲法70條的規定所以他在總數上面他沒有做支出做增加但是他還是違反了施治第391號不得挪用這些預算項目的這些相關規定我們來看這個就是在大罷免前夕這個藍白兩黨的立委赤裸裸脫掉褲子在這裡再一次"},{"start":29597.878,"end":29605.743,"text":"好 謝謝沈發慧委員的發言接下來我們請林怡瑾委員發言李昆哲委員請準備"},{"start":29629.639,"end":29656.23,"text":"主席各位同仁國民黨民眾黨聯手刪掉撥不給台電的一千億預算從歷經風災肆虐的台南北上來立法院開會眼睜睜的看著藍白兩黨這樣胡搞心中格外諷刺這次的風災對我們台南造成嚴重的損失停電的不便利和焦慮更是台南市民現在共同的惡夢"},{"start":29657.751,"end":29682.926,"text":"是台電人員堅守崗位 每日每夜的搶修才讓更多的家庭進一步能重見光明在我說話的當下 全國還有4萬多戶停電我們都相當清楚 台電不是一般的公司台電肩負起全國上下供電穩定的任務可以說是國家安全 民心穩定的基石"},{"start":29684.006,"end":29704.492,"text":"這一次的風災 全國電線桿倒掉了近2500支電網設施重建更需要經費的挹注可是當台電人員持續揮汗從事災後重建工作的此時此刻藍白兩黨卻執意刪除撥補給台電的1000億預算然後要求國家舉債普發現金1萬元"},{"start":29712.774,"end":29719.8,"text":"我要提醒大家容易出現颱風的季節才剛要開始相信全國人民"},{"start":29722.338,"end":29748.405,"text":"相信全國人民都會同意政府必須做出最完整的準備防災準備需要經費各式各樣的公共服務一樣也需要經費要求政府努力工作服務大眾這正是我們角色的理由不是嗎結果國民黨和民眾黨讓原本政府要努力工作要服務大眾的經費抽走了2300億"},{"start":29750.806,"end":29769.857,"text":"乍看之下2300億好像是要用來普發現金一萬元但是實際上就是台灣有2300億只有政府能做的公共服務硬生生不見了而這些公共服務很可能關係到你我的生命"},{"start":29770.817,"end":29785.515,"text":"身家安全再過半個月7月26號台灣人將攜手投下同意罷免票掌握自己的命運改變台灣的前途這是一個無比艱辛的過程公民團體一路走來"},{"start":29786.556,"end":29813.825,"text":"不僅遭於藍白聯手的謾罵、詆毀甚至連中國國台辦也站出來阻撓相信今年很多人的生日願望是大罷免、大成功大罷免不只將決定台灣人究竟是要向前進步還是要繼續被藍白喉所拖累拖住腳步而且大罷免的結果也會清楚向全世界表明台灣人要捍衛自己國家的決心"},{"start":29817.657,"end":29819.377,"text":"大家好穩定電價守護民生是所有立委共同的責任"},{"start":29842.421,"end":29871.4,"text":"我們討論到台電電價的補助是一個重要的政策因為它攸關國家的經濟穩定也關係到民生的福祉更關係到社會正義電價穩定是重要的一個基礎當然大家也都清楚在這幾年來我們受到俄烏戰爭的衝擊以及國際燃料價格上漲的因素的影響"},{"start":29872.581,"end":29893.497,"text":"成本是大幅的增加台電為了照顧民生穩定整個社會的經濟發展我們對於民生跟產業用電的補助將近要六千億這三年來我們看到這樣的一個狀況我們必須要了解"},{"start":29894.667,"end":29921.332,"text":"台電背負著重要的使命努力的讓整個國家的經濟跟社會的穩定得以呈現我要提醒各位委員世界各國都在補助電價這不是台灣的特例我們看到2022年到2024年日本政府以預算補助相關的電價達到新台幣5500億"},{"start":29924.213,"end":29943.989,"text":"法國政府補助了7000億德國政府補助了5200億但是我們來看台灣的電價的調整卻是相當的一個溫和同期間法國的民生跟工業的用電它的電價累積的調幅調整到37%跟139%"},{"start":29950.974,"end":29973.023,"text":"韓國是分別調高了49%跟87%我們台灣的住宅用電近三年來的調幅僅僅只有7.1%這展現了台電穩定社會衝擊的一個重要的作用我在這邊要懇請各位委員"},{"start":29975.385,"end":29992.018,"text":"補助台電撥補的這個預算是用於補貼超過1400萬民生用戶用電成本的差距減輕了每位國民的用電的負擔的電費的負擔也避免了能源貧窮的一個發生"},{"start":29994.48,"end":30022.31,"text":"那供电稳定让台湾这样的一个电费的补助让台湾面对风险的时候更能够增加它的韧性我们支持台电的员工辛苦的救灾感谢他们继续的为我们首富光明为台湾的发展贡献力量谢谢李坤哲委员的发言报告委员会"},{"start":30023.462,"end":30049.127,"text":"依照党团共事本案定于下午五点进行表决进行逐条讨论名称以及条文之表决五点钟即将表决我们循例在表决前七分钟约四点五十三分我们开始按铃因此广泛讨论就进行到吴其明委员为止"},{"start":30049.947,"end":30066.394,"text":"其餘已經登記廣泛討論及逐條討論發言之委員為其發言者其書面發言意見均不列入公報記錄現在請最後一位發言委員吳啟明委員請發言"},{"start":30075.155,"end":30090.768,"text":"主席我們與會同仁還有我們各媒體針對我們今天所討論的就是台電的1000億的補助我們目前的台灣大家都知道台灣的高科技產業都是靠的是電那現在我們面臨的"},{"start":30092.169,"end":30110.544,"text":"我們的高科技產業過去很多座談大家都是關心我們的電的問題那現在我們面臨到的問題就是台電你這一千億沒有辦法補助的話未來我們要穩定供電也需要便宜的電價那這不只是我們前"},{"start":30111.264,"end":30122.812,"text":"全國產業界的新生因此政府補助台電就是發展台灣的產業的支持所以本席呼籲我們在所有我們的在野黨"},{"start":30124.704,"end":30150.414,"text":"不要再為了反對而反對這筆千億的補助不只是給台電也給台灣人一個能夠抗抵下一次的災難的機會我們這一次我們的丹尼斯颱風就對全台造成的重創包含我們嘉蘭地區的更是為嚴重台電人員貿易搶修日夜的趕工為了讓台電"},{"start":30151.394,"end":30176.8,"text":"用電的恢復根據台電統計前台一度將近有100萬戶的停電電感折斷的超過2500隻過去2015年的斯迪勒颱風也是前台電感折斷的1000隻被視為重大的災損那這一次丹尼斯"},{"start":30178.1,"end":30201.85,"text":"的颱風是斯蒂勒的兩倍以上是創下歷史來嚴重的紀錄為了搶修更重要的重建的電力系統同時還需排除舊電桿及入室的阻礙物搶修上會死會歷負電難度大幅的增加一根電線桿"},{"start":30203.371,"end":30226.423,"text":"超過一噸重出動了大型的吊車與板車協同運輸的作業這都需要龐大的經費我們不能只看停電的市值我們背後的修復成本我們看到台電出動全國六成以上的搶修人員兩千多位的工程人員"},{"start":30228.564,"end":30256.925,"text":"在搶修包含嘉蘭地區這樣的努力不只是搶修更是守護台灣民主重要的工程但現在中南部牽攬的時候更應該不分黨派共同支持台電我們提撥這筆經費不是為了填補台電的虧損而是面臨極端氣候下的重建任性不只是為了今天的"},{"start":30272.048,"end":30279.23,"text":"好 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十四節"},{"start":32844.489,"end":32844.669,"text":"謝謝大家!"},{"start":32872.81,"end":32878.117,"text":"法院會報告表決結果在場委員96位贊成51位反對45位贊成者多數第5條照國民黨黨團在修正動議條文通過現在我們進行第6條請宣讀"},{"start":32889.957,"end":32915.142,"text":"台灣民眾黨黨團再修正動議第五條本條例所需經費上限為新台幣4100億元得視國際情勢變化分期編列特別預算其預算編制與執行無受預算法第23條規定之限制其項所需經費來源得以移用以前年度稅計剩餘或舉借債務之印但執行期間上有以前年度稅計剩餘可供移用時"},{"start":32916.222,"end":32938.434,"text":"應優先支應不得舉借債務本條例實行期間中央政府所舉借之一年以上公共債務未償餘額預算數應依公共債務法第五條第一項規定辦理民進黨黨團再修正動議第六條本條例所需經費上限為新台幣4100億元得失國際形勢變化分期編列特別預算"},{"start":32938.934,"end":32957.331,"text":"其預算編制與執行不受預算法第23條第62條及第63條規定之限制前項所需經費來源得以移用以前年度稅計剩餘或舉借債務之印其每年度舉借債務之額度不受公共債務法第5條第7項規定之限制"},{"start":32958.051,"end":32980.47,"text":"中央政府總預算及特別預算與本條例施行期間之舉債額度合計數不得超過該期間總預算及特別預算稅出總額度合計數之百分之十五本條例施行期間中央政府所舉借之一年以上公共債務未償餘額預算數應依公共債務法第五條第一項規定辦理"},{"start":32982.933,"end":33007.301,"text":"國民黨黨團在修正動議第六條本條例所需經費上限為新台幣五千四百五十億元得視國際情勢變化分期編列特別預算其預算編制與執行不受預算法第二十三條第六十二條及第六十三條規定之限制前項所需經費來源得以移用以前年度稅金剩餘或舉借債務之隱其每年度舉借債務之額度"},{"start":33008.141,"end":33035.163,"text":"不受公共債務法第五條第七項規定之限制中央政府總預算及特別預算與本條例實行期間之舉債額度合計數不得超過該期限總預算及特別預算最初總額度合計數之百分之十五本條例實行期間中央政府所舉借之一年以上公共債務未償餘額預算數因依公共債務法第五條第一項規定辦理宣讀完畢"},{"start":33036.584,"end":33045.532,"text":"廖先祥委員發表聲明剛才表決與國民黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄報言會我們開始表決台灣民眾黨團在修正動議條文現有民進黨團台灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨團請案贊成反對請案反對時間一分鐘現在開始"},{"start":33127.694,"end":33127.954,"text":"時間一分鐘 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