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環境大廳也滑溜大廳也滑溜啦我們屏東的空汙補助會跟國融也比不上國融所以我們第一次要求屏東的空汙補助要提高第二我今天有提案"},{"start":327.586,"end":332.944,"text":"我們今天要做提檢,尤其是新費功能的,要給我們補助。"},{"start":333.888,"end":339.65,"text":"給蘇院報告我們盡量來配合我覺得這個是應該做某一個程度的補助我是心中的科醫生PM2.5就是跟癌症、心血管疾病PM10就是跟PM2.5、PM10有關係再來就是不孕症那都有絕對的關係"},{"start":362.466,"end":386.228,"text":"現在年輕女性就是乳癌肺腺癌藍的也是肺腺癌都越來越高而且越來年輕化所以我一直在羨慕我們部長你是從在澎湖享受好的空氣所以我今天的提案也跟你報告再來就是那個排碳先明年後年要開始收稅了對不對"},{"start":387.54,"end":391.868,"text":"碳費對那一年要五六千億台幣是真的嗎沒有啦哪裡有到五六千億啊沒有勒"},{"start":397.182,"end":417.21,"text":"你如果說是加速說三百塊一桶三百塊一桶也差不多四百億還是多少全台灣的對就全台灣因為我們現在分階段首先是對排碳量超過2.5萬噸每年針對這大戶大概550家"},{"start":422.697,"end":446.123,"text":"那接下來實施一段時間之後 這個門檻可能會來檢討會繼續往下那終究我們就是覺得要進齡必須要全民運動光靠企業也不夠但是根據我們的資料的確是排蛋大戶大概是這550家就佔了將近75%所以當然是要先從這一塊來處理"},{"start":449.42,"end":472.708,"text":"我們屏東一年的空氣污染是超過168天整個一年是一半都是紙爆所以部長接下來我會緊盯著環保環境支援部我會盯得緊緊的再來我們講屏東我們那個高鐵特定區那邊我昨天特別"},{"start":475.298,"end":499.85,"text":"質詢我們相關的單位你看到這個是屏東高鐵站 紅紅一堆那些民營 長安博查的所在都要離一公里而已 一公里通啊所以這家的化工廠我昨天要求那個勞動部一定要加強契合 你們環環環保環境支援部家有得有得了嗎"},{"start":501.462,"end":503.115,"text":"我在跟著monitor或者是"},{"start":504.87,"end":531.021,"text":"我們謝署長報告一下好了報告委員因為高鐵特定區它是屬於關鍵基礎設施所以在災防法下來交通部本來在關鍵基礎設施就有一個計畫我們會參與裡面另外高鐵站附近就是民航國際這裡也有運作獨奧的廠商所以我們會把它涵蓋在裡面那現在都是監控啦訓練室都在做所以這個地方要特別用心因為這個地方我們保料啦現在鐵都給我們保料"},{"start":532.824,"end":533.445,"text":"好謝謝蘇委員好謝謝蘇委員"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}