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是應該要執行啦！"],["林委員倩綺：院長這樣的回應就代表了一些希望。最後，我期待為原住民多講些話，我們現在投入了很多錢在補助外國人來臺灣做產業的交流，我期待我們原住民，這部分我在3月5號已經講過了……"],["主席：謝謝……"],["林委員倩綺：所以最後，請參照國際專班來為我們原住民班做相同的對待，好嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：這個要……"],["林委員倩綺：院長，可以吧？"],["陳院長建仁：這個要來研議看看。"],["主席：因為時間的關係，謝謝林委員的建議，謝謝。謝謝登記第7號、謝謝陳院長。","接下來請登記第8號鄭委員正鈐發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":156,"meet_id":"院會-11-1-5","speakers":["韓國瑜","邱志偉","陳冠廷","王鴻薇","林德福","吳春城","鍾佳濱","葛如鈞","麥玉珍","葉元之","張嘉郡","范雲","陳秀寳","林倩綺","鄭正鈐","張雅琳","王美惠","廖偉翔","陳俊宇","林憶君","邱鎮軍"],"page_start":67,"meetingDate":["2024-03-19"],"gazette_id":"1131001","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1131001_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第1會期第5次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢─ 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