{"error":false,"id":["150269"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":150269,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150269","日期":"2024-03-21","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"委員會-11-1-19-4","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議","屆":11,"會期":1,"會次":4,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"委員會","委員會代碼":[19],"委員會代碼:str":["經濟委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2024-03-21T12:29:20+08:00","結束時間":"2024-03-21T12:37:18+08:00","影片長度":"00:07:58","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1be549810cdc3052a2a7b64a49f8c191e8dac5750a339bf8f8ba9b0039caa7a6280ecaa5b1202abe5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"何欣純","委員發言時間":"12:29:20 - 12:37:18","會議時間":"2024-03-21T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長就「當前供水情勢檢討及因應措施」進行報告，並備質詢。\n二、審查113年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣自來水股份有限公司。(詢答)）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":0.03096875,"end":1.39784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":2.0897187500000003,"end":3.0178437500000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":3.6590937500000003,"end":5.19471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":8.333468750000002,"end":39.31596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":12.26534375,"end":12.822218750000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":14.10471875,"end":15.977843750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":25.69784375,"end":28.53284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":29.629718750000002,"end":30.355343750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":32.53221875,"end":32.970968750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":40.142843750000004,"end":57.237218750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":50.60534375,"end":54.250343750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":57.945968750000006,"end":60.88221875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":61.16909375,"end":62.805968750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":63.04221875,"end":63.48096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":64.10534375,"end":66.90659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":68.00346875000001,"end":69.96096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":70.33221875000001,"end":72.42471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":72.50909375,"end":85.70534375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":78.01034375,"end":79.24221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":79.30971875,"end":80.59221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":83.22471875000001,"end":85.45221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":86.11034375,"end":89.90721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":92.69159375000001,"end":98.71596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":94.24409375,"end":96.47159375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":100.06596875000001,"end":131.06534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":131.30159375,"end":132.24659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":132.75284375,"end":135.82409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":136.92096875000001,"end":138.03471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":138.03471875,"end":138.10221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":138.10221875000002,"end":138.35534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":138.20346875,"end":138.32159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":138.35534375,"end":139.94159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":139.45221875000001,"end":140.21159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":140.21159375000002,"end":197.09721875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":197.09721875000002,"end":263.73659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":200.99534375000002,"end":201.36659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":217.70159375,"end":218.24159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":218.66346875000002,"end":219.22034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":264.24284375,"end":265.20471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":265.30596875000003,"end":270.16596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":270.72284375000004,"end":277.92846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":278.31659375000004,"end":279.05909375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":279.16034375000004,"end":282.51846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":282.88971875000004,"end":286.51784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":282.94034375,"end":314.02409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":301.24971875,"end":301.60409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":303.08909375,"end":303.73034375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":310.56471875,"end":311.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":313.18034375,"end":313.58534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":314.74971875,"end":317.26409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":317.88846875,"end":320.65596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":319.49159375,"end":335.45534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":336.19784375,"end":337.41284375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":337.86846875000003,"end":369.08721875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":369.54284375000003,"end":387.31221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":370.89284375,"end":371.23034375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":387.29534375000003,"end":400.81221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":400.47471875,"end":413.73846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":402.73596875000004,"end":403.14096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":410.22846875000005,"end":411.59534375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":412.50659375000004,"end":413.99159375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":413.82284375,"end":413.83971875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":413.87346875000003,"end":418.91909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":419.30721875,"end":430.71471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":431.17034375000003,"end":437.04284375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":437.38034375,"end":444.95721875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":445.32846875,"end":446.71221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":446.71221875000003,"end":471.23159375000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":470.53971875,"end":471.92346875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":472.36221875,"end":477.13784375000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":474.08346875,"end":474.87659375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":475.24784375,"end":477.07034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":477.79596875000004,"end":477.81284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":477.81284375,"end":477.86346875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":477.86346875000004,"end":478.77471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":478.89284375000005,"end":478.97721875}],"whisperx":[{"start":0.109,"end":1.051,"text":"何欣純委員請坐詢答會長請安靜謝謝"},{"start":8.325,"end":8.745,"text":"我必須要說過去呢"},{"start":38.336,"end":62.478,"text":"呃有委員呢前幾年都說台積電呢投資國外叫做去台化然後呢在擔心台灣沒有台積電現在有委員說台積電呢是用水的幫助是用電的幫助我覺得這樣不一樣的一個標準實在是不可取啦所以呢請尊重好不好"},{"start":64.578,"end":89.129,"text":"請尊重請尊重好不好請尊重一下好不好請尊重一下好不好請尊重一下好不好王宏威你剛剛在質詢的時候我也沒有講話啊請你尊重我的質詢實際時的品質嘛何欣純委員你現在是在那個巡查那個王部長謝謝對啊那你叫王宏威不要質詢我啊不要跟我講話啊"},{"start":92.731,"end":114.261,"text":"你才莫名其妙,這是我的質詢,請理性問政,謝謝那等一下時間要延長喔,抱歉喔趙委我要想請教部長跟這個水利署署長因為呢我們今天在談這個水的問題啦很多的委員都在關心水情"},{"start":116.282,"end":135.599,"text":"現在到底缺不缺水是民生大眾最關心的不管是在產業用水或者是民生用水甚至剛剛有很多委員包括我也很關心的農業用水那是不是可以再請部長跟署長再仔細的講一次正確的訊息跟"},{"start":136.957,"end":137.318,"text":"昨天針對桃竹苗跟台中水情的綠燈的提醒"},{"start":152.239,"end":156.423,"text":"是希望大家能夠節約用水那因為在這個過往這個這一段時間剛好是我們春耕的時間所以確實有比較多的農業的出水大概2.6億噸那所以讓水庫有點下降那今年的春雨到目前為止確實比往年低"},{"start":172.398,"end":173.199,"text":"因為部長台中地區之前曾經遭遇過大寒"},{"start":201.041,"end":216.701,"text":"所以這個停水之苦大家都還記憶猶新所以特別要代表台中地區的民眾要來關心也請經濟部跟水利署這一方面在民生用水、農業用水相關用水的調度上能夠確保"},{"start":219.222,"end":226.604,"text":"無餘,這是非常重要的一件事,這是第一點。第二點是在於水價,今天也很多人問到這個問題,因為我們現在看起來中小企業在國內也好,或者是國際的一個外銷情況也好,回春的狀況還沒有像我們想的好。"},{"start":240.387,"end":259.342,"text":"所以呢中小企業帶動的是國內的這個經濟產業的一個民生的一個內需的一個循環所以我是希望說在水價的部分是不是考量到我們現在電價我我我我再講一下電價我個人是主張如果行政院可以撥補可以去補台電的虧損的話能夠不漲"},{"start":264.326,"end":266.568,"text":"是我們最近水價是還沒有規劃"},{"start":283.922,"end":303.097,"text":"目前沒有規劃所以我希望說大家要共體時間這個國內的中小企業的產業環境是真的還需要一段時間來給他修復來給他有動能來給他未來可以回春我想這個部長你非常的清楚"},{"start":304.398,"end":309.381,"text":"最後有一點是我們現在平均的漏水率你剛剛說是12.4對不對12.54那台中地區是遠高於12.54"},{"start":318.072,"end":335.298,"text":"因為有山區的部分 是的所以這也就必須要說我們要去解決這個漏水率還有呢山區無自來水甚至呢有很多其他的因素那我就建議一個我覺得自來水的幹管的一個水情的管理"},{"start":336.258,"end":363.659,"text":"要更智慧化我所謂的智慧化是說我們對整個不管是我們現在的民生供水的自來水的供水系統幹管的一個主幹管跟資幹管所有的系統第三個是我們對這個漏水的偵測等等這些都必須要更智慧化因為我們最近大家都在談智慧城市政府城市自來水雖然是在地面下看不到"},{"start":364.119,"end":392.891,"text":"但是就是因為他看不到如果漏水或是管理不當其實他會流失了很多我們需要的水啦那所以這個部分我覺得部長可不可以支持自來水公司能夠去經費上的資源第二個技術專業上的資源那能夠產官學合作能夠去推動更智慧化的一個自來水的一個管理系統沒錯這個也是我一直在積極督促台水公司加緊做更多的智慧監測"},{"start":393.971,"end":417.808,"text":"那這個部分其實是對解決漏水或者是及早來知道漏水來解決這個很重要這個很重要啊沒錯這真的很重要所以這個也可以讓我們可以掌握一個database知道說我們哪些幹管可能漏水率是遠高於平均值所以我們要趕快去更新嘛、汰換嘛所以最後的最後我還要提醒我也希望就是"},{"start":419.429,"end":419.749,"text":"有有那"},{"start":448.801,"end":476.088,"text":"所以他們把這個資料做得越來越精細那另外他們也會去盤點哪裏是比如說重要的如果這個地方漏的話其實影響的漏水量很大等等然後做很多的因素一起來考量那所以現在排成的部分就是讓效益比較高的趕快優先來做那這個我們會積極來處理那是不是請經濟部跟在水公司可以給我一個順便資料好不好我們時間到謝謝"},{"start":477.568,"end":478.712,"text":"響鐘"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}