{"error":false,"id":["151418"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":151418,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151418","日期":"2024-04-18","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"委員會-11-1-19-8","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議","屆":11,"會期":1,"會次":8,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"委員會","委員會代碼":[19],"委員會代碼:str":["經濟委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2024-04-18T11:04:33+08:00","結束時間":"2024-04-18T11:16:05+08:00","影片長度":"00:11:32","支援功能":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/566e821c95e2b445a553bece397521db04d5d2f84b0f7606c5dab72e655c1c943fcf17fe098d76155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"邱志偉","委員發言時間":"11:04:33 - 11:16:05","會議時間":"2024-04-18T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：審查113年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於經濟部主管：經濟作業基金、水資源作業基金、經濟特別收入基金、核能發電後端營運基金。(詢答)）","gazette":{"lineno":884,"blocks":[["邱委員志偉：（11時4分）好，謝謝主席，請經濟部王部長，休息。"],["主席（謝委員衣鳯代）：你請他休息？你講快一點。"],["邱委員志偉：休息一下，他從早上忙到現在。請國貿署江署長、能源署李副署長、中小及新創企業署何署長。"],["主席：江署長。"],["邱委員志偉：水利署賴署長。"],["主席：能源署。"],["邱委員志偉：還有園區管理局楊局長，一起上來好了。今天審基金的幾個部分，我先問推廣貿易基金，這是經特的部分。江署長，基金來源今年編列多少錢？"],["江署長文若：基金來源113年編列67億。"],["邱委員志偉：好，主要是因為出口總值增加。"],["江署長文若：對。"],["邱委員志偉：你的基金用途變成多少錢？"],["江署長文若：用途是58億左右。"],["邱委員志偉：是國際市場開發。"],["江署長文若：對。"],["邱委員志偉：你要新開發哪些國際市場？"],["江署長文若：國際市場的話是全面的，只要廠商……"],["邱委員志偉：沒有，應該有幾個重點，不可能全面，今年的幾個重點在哪裡？"],["江署長文若：主要的，第一個是幫廠商爭取更多買主，所以會邀請主要的買主來臺灣。第二個部分是到國際上參加相關的展覽或者相關的推廣活動。"],["邱委員志偉：去年也有相關的計畫，針對去年基金用途在國際市場開發的部分，是不是可以把這個成果的相關資料提供給我？"],["江署長文若：好，我們會給委員。"],["邱委員志偉：另外，CPTPP也是你們重要的重點。"],["江署長文若：是的。"],["邱委員志偉：當然經貿辦也很重要，就你個人的預估，臺灣加入CPTPP最樂觀是什麼時候可以加入？"],["江署長文若：這個是我們一直努力的目標，委員也有成立一個CPTPP的聯盟。"],["邱委員志偉：對，我現在說你預估啦！我的時間有限，你預估最樂觀、最悲觀的狀況，最樂觀臺灣什麼時候可以加入CPTPP？"],["江署長文若：我們會盡最大的努力，持續跟相關的會員……"],["邱委員志偉：當然一定要盡最大的能力，我問你樂觀跟悲觀的情形，最樂觀的狀況，我們什麼時候可以加入？你給我一個期程表嘛！"],["江署長文若：這個部分我們會盡最大的努力……"],["邱委員志偉：哎呦喂呀！"],["江署長文若：因為這個時間的決定必須要成立一個入會的工作小組。"],["邱委員志偉：署長，你當然要盡最大的努力，我只問你什麼時候？我盡我的全力，從國會協助臺灣加入CPTPP。你要有一個目標值，最樂觀我們什麼時候可以加入CPTPP？"],["江署長文若：這個時間表可能沒有辦法由我方決定，必須所有的會員都要有共識，所以目前……"],["邱委員志偉：請部長。你都不講，我本來請部長休息。連樂觀的狀況你們都講不出來，部長，樂觀的話我們什麼時候可以入CPTPP？"],["王部長美花：委員，確實比較抱歉，要在他們那邊成立比如說入會工作小組來啟動。"],["邱委員志偉：這個我都很熟。"],["王部長美花：對。"],["邱委員志偉：你們總要有個目標值，最樂觀我們什麼時候可以加入？很多非操之在我、可操之在我，可操之在我的部分我們全力做好了，我當召委的時候，相關的法律修正案也都修完了，對不對？"],["王部長美花：是。"],["邱委員志偉：商標法等全部修完了。"],["王部長美花：沒錯。"],["邱委員志偉：你要有一個工作期程給駐外單位，說什麼時候我們要加入，這樣才有工作壓力，有壓力才有動力。"],["王部長美花：我們臺灣是被審的，事實上，外館非常積極爭取，讓相關的會員成立入會工作小組，但是確實這個部分比較不是操之在我。"],["邱委員志偉：好，部長先回座。經濟特別收入有5項基金，我跳過來先問水資源，賴署長，今年總收入多少？"],["賴署長建信：什麼？"],["邱委員志偉：水資源的總收入多少？"],["賴署長建信：90億左右。"],["邱委員志偉：支出大於收入？"],["賴署長建信：對。"],["邱委員志偉：支出主要是擴大清淤，阿公店水庫今年有沒有清淤計畫？"],["賴署長建信：今年還是會持續在茄萣清淤，還有包括……"],["邱委員志偉：阿公店水庫有沒有清淤？"],["賴署長建信：有。"],["邱委員志偉：有清淤？"],["賴署長建信：對。"],["邱委員志偉：阿公店水庫清淤的目標值跟花的預算，你提供資料給我。"],["賴署長建信：好，完全沒問題。"],["邱委員志偉：另外岡山潭底滯洪池，你們目前規劃怎麼樣？"],["賴署長建信：潭底滯洪池可能要看……"],["邱委員志偉：可行性怎麼樣？"],["賴署長建信：我們現在要看整個預算的來源。"],["邱委員志偉：你把相關的進度再彙整一下給我。"],["賴署長建信：好。"],["邱委員志偉：滯洪池也是你們管的，對不對？"],["賴署長建信：對。"],["邱委員志偉：岡山有典寶溪A、B、D滯洪池，有前鋒子滯洪池，也有五甲尾滯洪池，有關它的綠美化，你們要當做一個觀光據點，甚至發電，是多功能的，對不對？發電有收入，觀光則讓附近的居民能夠有一些休閒娛樂場所，那麼植樹要做好，相關的比方說洗手間、附屬設施，你們也要完整規劃。"],["賴署長建信：沒有問題，這個部長非常重視，未來我們還會改善得更好。"],["邱委員志偉：我每天去那邊運動，還是有人抱怨公共設施還不夠、植栽做得不夠好、樹不夠大，熱得要死，這部分請加強，好嗎？"],["賴署長建信：好。"],["邱委員志偉：接下來請問中小企業署何署長，比較少人問你，今年中小企業發展署的基金來源有多少錢？"],["何署長晉滄：國庫要撥補27億。"],["邱委員志偉：28億還是27億？"],["何署長晉滄：27億國庫撥補，然後其他我們有一些收入大概九千多萬。"],["邱委員志偉：28億是今天要審的你們的基金來源，林口新創園區，你們針對這些新創園區要做到南北平衡，南部有沒有相關新創園區的規劃？"],["何署長晉滄：南部目前是亞灣，在高雄。"],["邱委員志偉：高雄很大，有分南高雄、北高雄，北高雄也要重視，那個亞灣在南高雄，是賴瑞隆那邊，你當然要重視，我這邊你也不能忽視啊！"],["何署長晉滄：有。"],["邱委員志偉：北高雄是未來S廊帶的核心，裡面有新創。"],["何署長晉滄：我們有支持一些學校的育成中心，他們也有……"],["邱委員志偉：小規模，那不能相比，不僅是臺灣的南北要平衡，高雄的南北也要平衡。很多資源放在高雄南邊，固然我支持，但是你也不能忽視高雄北邊，高雄北邊是未來高雄市進步繁榮發展的一個核心區啊！所以，新創事業，你要超前部署。"],["何署長晉滄：是。"],["邱委員志偉：所以我要求你，是不是未來除了亞灣之外，在高雄的北邊也能夠去規劃一個新創園區？"],["何署長晉滄：我們再來找找看有沒有適合的地點。"],["邱委員志偉：地點都是你們的，台糖很多地啊！"],["何署長晉滄：沒有，沒有，那個要重新蓋的話，可能……"],["邱委員志偉：這個部長你支持嗎？點個頭就好了。部長也支持啊，所以三個月之內，針對在北高雄成立新創聚落或新創園區，請主管單位中小企業署提出一個完整的規劃說明，好不好？"],["何署長晉滄：好。"],["邱委員志偉：另外，新創事業當然需要更多政府的協助，我希望你能夠針對中南部的中小企業或中南部的新創事業，提供更多具體的協助。"],["何署長晉滄：是。"],["邱委員志偉：你在北部，一方面北部可能相對的資源比較多，相對的人才都集中在這邊，但南部也有人才，南部也有新創的需求，所以南部的新創基地，特別是高雄，新創的資源分配要多一點在高雄，特別是北高雄。"],["何署長晉滄：是。"],["邱委員志偉：所以，署長，這部分我會定期的跟你做討論，你需要把你過去一年執行的狀況，針對你在高雄扶植新創產業的具體成果，是不是在一個月之內給我相關的資料？"],["何署長晉滄：好。"],["邱委員志偉：最後，有關再生能源，李副署長，再生能源今年的規模是多少？"],["李副署長君禮：再生能源大概六點多億，再生能源基金並不大，目前我們推動再生能源的費用大部分是在石油基金裡面。"],["邱委員志偉：你今年主要的基金用途是在增加太陽能申設的流程優化。"],["李副署長君禮：是。"],["邱委員志偉：這個部分你能不能具體再說明一下？"],["李副署長君禮：是，太陽能的申設主要是用在地面型的，因為案件非常多，目前一年大概有六、七千件的案件，尤其是地面型的，有涉及一些環境的議題，還有土地的程序。"],["邱委員志偉：流程要優化，那所謂模組的回收費是什麼東西？"],["李副署長君禮：模組的回收費是指太陽光電未來20年經濟壽齡到了之後，就會變成廢棄物，我們現在是要求……"],["邱委員志偉：為什麼要由你們來回收呢？"],["李副署長君禮：我們是提供一個基金，它在設置的時候就要繳每瓩1,000元的基金，作為未來處理的費用，也就是說經濟壽齡完成之後要處理它的廢棄物，這需要一筆錢，這個我們是跟環境部合作的，我們在一開始的時候就把它收齊了，免得未來20年到了他就跑掉了，所以我們等於是把錢放在那裡，作為未來處理廢棄物使用。"],["邱委員志偉：這可能會越來越多。"],["李副署長君禮：是。"],["邱委員志偉：所以未來基金用途可能這個錢會不夠，未來時間到，這個回收的費用一定會越來越增加。"],["李副署長君禮：費用我們會定期來檢討，我們會根據處理的成本做一個公式來考慮。"],["邱委員志偉：最後請教一下楊伯耕局長。"],["楊局長伯耕：委員好。"],["邱委員志偉：都有問到了。我的白埔產業園區你什麼時候要給我？"],["楊局長伯耕：向委員報告，白埔園區目前是高雄市政府在規劃。"],["邱委員志偉：我當然知道啊，因為那是我爭取才有的。現在高雄市政府變成橋科的第二期，對不對？"],["楊局長伯耕：所以上次有跟委員報告……"],["邱委員志偉：你要還給我一塊。"],["楊局長伯耕：有，上次已經跟委員報告過，就是在橋科南方，我們又找了一塊……"],["邱委員志偉：要在我選區喔，你不要……"],["楊局長伯耕：一定會找到。"],["邱委員志偉：已經有確定的區位了嗎？"],["楊局長伯耕：目前是看中橋科南方的一塊土地。"],["邱委員志偉：既然已經確定區位，就開始啟動作業流程，因為國土計畫實施之後，相關的地目還要變更。"],["楊局長伯耕：是。"],["邱委員志偉：這個部分我當然討論過好幾次，但是越早啟動，到時候才能趕快提供給中小企業或傳統產業建廠。"],["楊局長伯耕：是，會跟委員報告進度。"],["邱委員志偉：好，王部長，你辛苦了。"],["主席：現在請林德福委員詢答。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":412,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-19-8","speakers":["楊瓊瓔","林岱樺","張嘉郡","賴瑞隆","邱議瑩","張啓楷","鄭正鈐","呂玉玲","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","謝衣鳯","邱志偉","林德福","王鴻薇","洪孟楷","黃國昌","李柏毅","蔡易餘","陳超明","陳亭妃","陳冠廷"],"page_start":339,"meetingDate":["2024-04-18"],"gazette_id":"1133101","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1133101_00011"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"審查113年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於經濟部主管：經濟作業基金、水資\n源作業基金、經濟特別收入基金、核能發電後端營運基金（詢答）","agenda_id":"1133101_00018"}},"transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":0.047843750000000004,"end":1.24596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":0.57096875,"end":0.7565937500000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":10.712843750000001,"end":12.51846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":19.58909375,"end":20.58471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":21.91784375,"end":23.57159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":23.74034375,"end":24.41534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":24.887843750000002,"end":25.461593750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":25.49534375,"end":25.512218750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":25.512218750000002,"end":26.980343750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":27.95909375,"end":28.02659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":28.02659375,"end":29.089718750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":29.089718750000003,"end":31.90784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":32.07659375,"end":32.650343750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":32.970968750000004,"end":34.18596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":34.60784375,"end":36.19409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":37.05471875,"end":37.071593750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":37.071593750000005,"end":38.252843750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":37.12221875,"end":37.96596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":37.96596875,"end":38.016593750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":38.016593750000006,"end":38.033468750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":38.52284375,"end":40.15971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":38.59034375,"end":39.13034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":39.13034375,"end":39.34971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":41.13846875,"end":41.830343750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":41.931593750000005,"end":42.049718750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":42.657218750000006,"end":44.96909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":45.407843750000005,"end":46.690343750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":47.06159375,"end":48.462218750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":49.01909375,"end":50.166593750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":50.875343750000006,"end":51.92159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":53.625968750000006,"end":54.891593750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":56.393468750000004,"end":57.962843750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":57.962843750000005,"end":58.165343750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":58.806593750000005,"end":63.36284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":63.61596875,"end":68.03721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":68.03721875000001,"end":68.96534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":68.96534375,"end":69.26909375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":69.97784375,"end":73.20096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":73.20096875,"end":74.78721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":74.90534375,"end":75.29346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":75.29346875,"end":77.38596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":77.38596875,"end":77.40284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":77.95971875000001,"end":84.45659375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":81.94221875000001,"end":82.78596875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":84.96284375,"end":92.86034375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":92.97846875,"end":101.31471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":101.31471875000001,"end":109.78596875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":110.10659375,"end":115.03409375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":110.19096875000001,"end":110.22471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":110.22471875000001,"end":110.56221875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":110.56221875000001,"end":110.57909375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":111.40596875000001,"end":111.62534375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":115.16909375,"end":115.40534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":115.40534375,"end":123.04971875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":123.55596875,"end":127.20096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":127.70721875000001,"end":131.67284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":129.90096875,"end":138.32159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":137.30909375000002,"end":141.03846875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":139.51971875,"end":146.97846875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":147.34971875000002,"end":155.04471875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":150.50534375,"end":151.66971875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":152.41221875000002,"end":152.86784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":153.35721875000002,"end":163.76909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":163.76909375,"end":163.88721875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":163.88721875000002,"end":163.92096875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":163.92096875000001,"end":171.29534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":170.29971875,"end":171.34596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":171.97034375,"end":172.40909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":172.62846875000002,"end":174.68721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":176.44221875000002,"end":179.95221875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":179.66534375,"end":179.71596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":179.96909375,"end":179.98596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":180.08721875,"end":182.38221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":183.25971875000002,"end":192.40596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":191.25846875000002,"end":211.86284375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":204.89346875,"end":205.18034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":211.96409375000002,"end":213.41534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":213.41534375,"end":214.74846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":214.07346875000002,"end":215.23784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":215.23784375000002,"end":230.61096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":228.95721875,"end":230.17221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":230.47596875000002,"end":233.61471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":233.83409375000002,"end":235.35284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":235.84221875000003,"end":236.46659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":237.04034375,"end":239.45346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":240.17909375000002,"end":241.30971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":241.61346875,"end":246.84471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":246.94596875000002,"end":252.02534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":252.02534375000002,"end":252.27846875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":252.78471875000002,"end":257.49284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":257.79659375,"end":259.07909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":258.43784375,"end":258.62346875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":258.69096875,"end":258.70784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":258.74159375,"end":258.92721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":259.07909375,"end":259.16346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":259.16346875,"end":259.28159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":259.28159375,"end":269.25471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":269.25471875,"end":269.27159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":269.72721875,"end":269.74409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":269.74409375,"end":275.63346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":271.56659375000004,"end":272.25846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":275.97096875,"end":276.91596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":277.05096875000004,"end":309.02909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":309.02909375,"end":309.04596875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":309.50159375000004,"end":311.98221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":311.98221875,"end":318.91784375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":311.99909375000004,"end":315.20534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":320.30159375,"end":325.36409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":323.23784375,"end":323.96346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":323.96346875,"end":324.01409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":325.83659375,"end":327.30471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":328.16534375000003,"end":328.84034375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":331.57409375000003,"end":334.83096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":335.89409375,"end":336.56909375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":336.73784375,"end":337.86846875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":339.06659375000004,"end":341.51346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":342.35721875,"end":343.33596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":343.82534375,"end":344.34846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":344.85471875,"end":346.62659375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":347.31846875,"end":348.34784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":348.58409375,"end":352.93784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":353.96721875000003,"end":365.69534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":354.45659375,"end":354.87846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":366.92721875,"end":369.93096875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":370.09971875,"end":372.49596875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":373.25534375,"end":378.06471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":379.16159375,"end":384.32534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":384.86534375,"end":385.03409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":385.03409375,"end":385.15221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":385.15221875000003,"end":385.18596875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":385.18596875000003,"end":385.20284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":385.20284375,"end":388.40909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":385.21971875,"end":385.64159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":387.17721875,"end":392.57721875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":391.21034375000005,"end":398.06159375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":398.39909375,"end":402.26346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":403.25909375000003,"end":409.38471875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":409.73909375000005,"end":413.51909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":414.29534375000003,"end":416.48909375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":416.74221875,"end":422.07471875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":422.19284375,"end":426.12471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":426.27659375,"end":434.32596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":435.22034375000004,"end":436.95846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":437.71784375000004,"end":448.45034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":448.65284375000005,"end":451.15034375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":452.09534375000004,"end":453.86721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":454.44096875,"end":456.41534375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":457.63034375,"end":467.94096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":468.61596875000004,"end":470.28659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":470.55659375000005,"end":470.91096875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":471.50159375000004,"end":473.15534375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":473.59409375,"end":481.10346875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":481.79534375000003,"end":484.27596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":485.65971875,"end":486.01409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":486.23346875000004,"end":488.02221875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":488.05596875000003,"end":488.07284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":488.10659375000006,"end":491.39721875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":492.57846875,"end":496.12221875000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":496.37534375,"end":505.84221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":506.06159375000004,"end":507.09096875000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":507.74909375000004,"end":508.64346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":508.99784375,"end":510.44909375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":510.76971875000004,"end":511.47846875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":512.01846875,"end":512.30534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":512.86221875,"end":513.82409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":514.97159375,"end":517.04721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":517.7053437500001,"end":519.03846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":519.73034375,"end":520.05096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":520.6753437500001,"end":523.08846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":523.66221875,"end":531.71159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":532.6397187499999,"end":532.99409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":533.4665937500001,"end":539.54159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":538.9509687500001,"end":539.7778437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":539.9297187500001,"end":540.9253437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":541.51596875,"end":543.9965937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":544.09784375,"end":559.7578437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":558.3740937499999,"end":561.1753437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":561.1753437500001,"end":561.93471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":561.93471875,"end":561.95159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":561.95159375,"end":572.65034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":571.5703437500001,"end":573.62909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":573.62909375,"end":600.34221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":601.1015937500001,"end":610.3828437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":603.6497187500001,"end":604.13909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":610.3828437500001,"end":617.8247187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":617.8247187500001,"end":620.3559687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":621.0815937500001,"end":621.6215937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":621.9253437500001,"end":622.8872187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":624.3215937500001,"end":625.9753437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":625.9753437500001,"end":627.02159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":627.4265937499999,"end":635.8134687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":631.83096875,"end":640.36971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":637.61909375,"end":638.26034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":638.3953437499999,"end":638.96909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":638.98596875,"end":649.1615937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":649.1615937500001,"end":649.4484687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":649.4484687500001,"end":651.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":651.2878437500001,"end":683.29971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":668.92221875,"end":669.3103437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":681.3928437500001,"end":682.15221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":683.5190937500001,"end":686.1853437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":686.5903437500001,"end":686.6072187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":686.6072187500001,"end":686.7253437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":686.7253437500001,"end":686.7422187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":690.9778437500001,"end":691.18034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":691.18034375,"end":691.31534375}],"whisperx":[{"start":20.232,"end":24.094,"text":"謝謝主席請經濟部王部長休息"},{"start":28.001,"end":30.942,"text":"今天整基金幾個部分先問推廣貿易基金這是經特的部分基金來源今年變成多少錢"},{"start":56.468,"end":68.927,"text":"基金來源今年編列多少錢基金來源我們113年編列67億主要是因為你的出口總值增加那你的這個基金用途編列多少錢"},{"start":70.014,"end":92.493,"text":"用途是58億左右那是國際市場開發對哪些國際市場你要先開發我們國際市場的話是全面的就是只要應該有幾個重點嗎不可能說全面的今年的幾個重點在哪裡主要的第一個是幫廠商爭取更多的買主所以會邀請主要的買主"},{"start":94.095,"end":109.296,"text":"臺灣第2個部分是到國際上去參加相關的展覽或者相關的這個推廣的活動。去年也有相關的計劃嗎?是不是該把去年你們這個針對基金用途在國際市場開發的部分,把這成果是不是可以提供?"},{"start":110.458,"end":122.878,"text":"相關資料提供給我,另外CPTPP也是你們重要的重點,就您個人的預估當然經貿辦也很重要,你個人預估台灣加入CPTPP最樂觀是什麼時候可以加入?"},{"start":124.238,"end":141.067,"text":"這個是我們一直會努力的目標,然後這個委員也有成立一個CPTPP的一個聯盟我現在預估,因為我時間有限,你預估最樂觀、最悲觀、最樂觀是什麼時候我們臺灣可以有CPTPP我們會盡我們最大的努力,持續的跟相關的會員我問你,樂觀跟悲觀,最樂觀我們什麼時候可以,大概給我一個期程表嘛"},{"start":147.843,"end":154.769,"text":"這個時間表我們可能沒有辦法由我方來決定因為必須要所有的會員都要有共識請部長 請部長你都不講啊 我說請部長休息"},{"start":176.499,"end":177.56,"text":"連樂觀你們都講不出來來部長樂觀的話我們什麼時候可以教習"},{"start":183.912,"end":206.87,"text":"委員確實比較抱歉 因為確實要在他們這邊成立 譬如說入會工作小組來啟動我都很熟啦 但你們說有個目標值最多關我們什麼時候可以加入 很多非操是在我 可操是在我可操是在我們部分 我們全體都說好了 我當時稍微有時候把香港的法律修正案也都修完了對不對 商標法什麼的全部修完了"},{"start":207.13,"end":234.939,"text":"沒錯那你要有個工作期程給駐外單位說什麼時候我們要加入這才有工作的壓力嘛有壓力才有動力啊因為我們台灣是被審的這個部分那事實上這個外管非常非常的積極來爭取讓他們相關的會員來成立入會的這個工作小組那但是確實這個部分不是比較操作好部長你先回座那個因為經濟特別收入有五項基金齁我先跳過來先問問水資源這個邱市長"},{"start":238.082,"end":251.781,"text":"今年總收入是多少?91億左右支出是大於收入?對支出主要是擴大7億阿公亮嘴口,你今天有沒有7億?"},{"start":252.987,"end":268.62,"text":"今年還是持續會在前提裡面做輕益還有包括阿公店水庫有沒有輕益有有有有輕益齁對你把阿公店水庫輕益的目標值跟花的預算你提供給他給我齁完全沒問題因為潭嶺志鴻池岡山齁潭嶺志鴻池你們目前規劃怎麼樣"},{"start":270.282,"end":287.984,"text":"臺體滯洪池的部分可能要看我們現在要看整個預算的來源你把相關的進度再混一下給我那滯洪池也是你們管的嘛對不對對我剛才有這個聯邦學習A、B、D滯洪池有前紅號滯洪池"},{"start":289.125,"end":289.265,"text":"發言委員：邱志偉"},{"start":309.808,"end":316.253,"text":"這個沒有問題 這個部長非常重視啊我們每天去那邊運動還是有人冒言說公共施展不夠這個職災做得不夠好請問請加強好不好好 那接下來這個中小企業署委員好 何處長 比較少人問你這個你今年啊"},{"start":339.113,"end":365.519,"text":"你這個中小企業發展署你這個基金來源是多少錢?這個國庫要撥補27億28、27億27億國庫撥補然後其他我們有一些收入大概9000多萬好啦28億28億是今天要省的你們這個基金來源是林口新創園區你們針對這些新創園區要做到南北平衡阿"},{"start":366.997,"end":377.533,"text":"南部有沒有相關新創園區的規劃南部目前是雅灣在高雄那是高雄有分很大有南高雄北高雄北高雄也要重視"},{"start":379.209,"end":402.262,"text":"你那個雅雯在南高雄是賴瑞榮那邊你當然要重視我這邊你也不能忽視啊北高雄是未來S囊帶的核心耶你也有新創學校的這個育成中心啊他們也有設一些新創拿什麼不能相比你要拿出這個不僅是台灣的南北平衡高雄的南北要平衡"},{"start":403.308,"end":413.058,"text":"你很多資源放在這個高雄南邊固然我支持但是你也不能忽視這個高雄北邊高雄北邊是未來高雄市進步繁榮發展的一個核心區"},{"start":414.355,"end":435.413,"text":"所以你新創事業你要這個超檢部署所以我要求你是不是在未來除了雅灣之外在高雄的北邊你能夠去規劃一個這個新創園區我們再來找看有沒有適合的地點地點都是你們的台南很多地啊沒有沒有那個要重新蓋的話那可能這個部長你支持嗎點頭就好了"},{"start":437.759,"end":455.032,"text":"部長的支持所以一個月之內針對在北高雄成立這個中小企業組你主管的成立這個新創這個聚落或新創園區提出一個完整的規劃說明撒各位好不好另外你要提供對這個新創事業"},{"start":457.694,"end":484.1,"text":"新創事業當然需要更多的這個政府的協助我希望你能夠這個針對中南部的中小企業也好或中南部的新創事業也好提供更多具體的協助北部當然這個一方面北部可能相對資源比較多相對的人才也都集中在這邊南部也有人才南部也有這個新創需求所以對南部新創基地特別是高雄"},{"start":486.377,"end":513.07,"text":"這個新創的資源分配要多一點在高雄特別是北高雄所以署長這部分我會定期的跟你做討論你需要把你的這個過去一年執行的狀況針對高雄在南部對高雄你扶植的新創產業的具體的成果是一個月之內是不是給我相關的資料好 是最後這個"},{"start":515.395,"end":531.356,"text":"再生能源,再生能源就是李副署長是再生能源規模是多少?再生能源大概6點多億,再生能源基金並不大那目前我們推動再生能源的費用大部分是在需要基金裡面"},{"start":532.731,"end":548.284,"text":"你你今年的這個主要的基金用途是在增加太陽能深色的留神優化是是這個經費這個部分啊你能不能具體再說明一下是主要是太陽能的深色主要是地面型的用在地面型的"},{"start":548.404,"end":548.965,"text":"那你那個所謂模組的回收費是什麼東西?"},{"start":563.866,"end":583.359,"text":"模組的回收費是我們現在太陽光電未來現在用它20年的經濟受領到了之後它就會變成廢棄物那我們現在是要求那你為什麼要由你來回收呢我們是提供一個基金它在設置的時候它就要繳每K瓦是1000元的基金作為未來處理的費用也就是說它經濟受領完成之後"},{"start":585.28,"end":600.122,"text":"要處理他的飛機物那這要一筆錢那這個我們是跟環境部合作的那我們在一開始的時候就把它收起了免得他未來以後20年到他就跑掉了所以我們是等於錢放在那裡作為未來處理飛機物使用"},{"start":601.638,"end":602.599,"text":"最後請教一下楊博跟楊局長"},{"start":625.004,"end":650.547,"text":"白浦財運園區你什麼時候要給我?像委員報告白浦園區的部分目前是高雄市政府在規劃我當然知道啊那現在是爭取才有的對那現在高雄市政府變成這個喬科的第二區對不對所以上次有跟委員報告那你要還給我一塊有有現在已經上次有跟委員報告過就是那個在喬科的南方的部分我們要找一塊哎呀我在我選區啊你不要對對對一定會找到"},{"start":651.387,"end":675.593,"text":"已經有確定的區位了嗎?目前是看重喬科南方的有一塊土地既然已經確定區位就開始啟動作業流程因為你這個國土計畫實施之後還要相關的地目變更這個當然我知道這個部分我當然討論過好幾次但是越早啟動你到時候才能趕快這個"},{"start":676.673,"end":686.002,"text":"提供給這個中小企業或雙小企業他們建廠的需求是好的是好謝謝跟委員報告進度好那那個王部長你辛苦了"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}