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大家都在現場只有你們都倒果為因嘛你們不讓人家開會嘛"},{"start":24.087,"end":51.462,"text":"應該講說我們版本差一天進來還有劉志強還有翁小英還有很多人版本必然審查啊這在立法院非常其中平常啊大家都彼此尊重啊各位你不是說委員會中間主義嗎為什麼你都不敢講話你在聽說你都不敢講因為廣場委員坐在那裡負責為事舉手而已這個很清楚啦等一下你叫我後面瞄清楚我們今天有機會對到我們就來好好講嘛"},{"start":53.513,"end":78.491,"text":"對齁?每次講到情緒來講到情緒嘛。議席中間是我人開的嘛。所有辦公室拼在一起,一直在討論。還有一個農場委員,我們已經給你什麼、我們給你什麼。另外一支刑事、協法保障的權益,回頭是農場委員所給的。這不是恩賜啊。所以他搞什麼,就是拜你們要長期的連壓嘛。然後其他辦公不併嘛。"},{"start":79.793,"end":94.094,"text":"那就不能討論不能發言嘛,組織法都不可以啊。然後這樣表決一直過去。當然唯一的武器就商業動力。突顯的荒謬,我告訴各位,然後禮拜四我們組織的時候是怎麼樣?"},{"start":95.523,"end":114.402,"text":"很多版本在公約版本裡面沒有的當然有些要討論啊以後還是要併跟審查啊委員會從來想要併在一起啊因為還要併在一起啊為什麼我們的版本都不能討論要商會所以所有原則一起農場你不拿那個版本"},{"start":115.84,"end":131.608,"text":"見天日嘛!你不能讓人家被討厭嘛!一路掩蓋、蓋牌、蓋牌到底嘛!所以大家又不講話、裝在那裡!讓極左部隊,就是如此而已啊!當然我想你講,委員講說,他在第一次,你才剛到立法院你還會看到很多第一次的!"},{"start":133.356,"end":136.318,"text":"各位要瞭解。二、二、二十號。二、二、二十號是不是韓國主持第一次委員會?"},{"start":149.344,"end":176.861,"text":"議員高金素梅等23人擬具:「立法院組織法第三十二條條文修正草案案 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案件中,立法院組織法部分條文修正草案"},{"start":272.844,"end":299.54,"text":"坦白講,臨時匪憲端正,這民意反覆不起來的啊。這是全程撕破的。這個倒也很清楚,你就不要這樣哭了嘛。像今天我看,這個副總召好像趕著要去大陸了。他就開始在底下連署。大家有沒有看到他們提出三個東西出來?現在連委員會都可以沒收。什麼時候立法院以前到現在?什麼時候委員會能不能開?能不能討論?事由﹖"},{"start":301.941,"end":329.647,"text":"舉手來表決,只有國民黨來決定,那今天我們就建議大家去看喔,額後四年,只要國民黨民眾黨合起來,只要這個委員會來自己專案報告都不可以,這個法案不可以討論,你就要來上會。這是何其嚴重啊。連委員會都可以沒說,法院都可以沒說,什麼都可以沒說。這樣就,你們不要以為齁,加起來過半,可以翻轉天下了。"},{"start":331.585,"end":347.235,"text":"你得到必然的罰,很酷啦。我再告訴各位,今天這個法案在平常也不夠。你們沒有提版本,哪一個委員會都是一樣的。沒有版本,沒有行政版本,那就損嘛。"},{"start":348.195,"end":362.108,"text":"有的是等行政版本來,這個不可能有行政版本,所以是立法院帶來共同的討論。這是立法院核心價值嘛,大家都要維持在憲政體制以下來做這個事情。立法院沒有潛力,你一直擴張,坦白講這還是違憲的。"},{"start":365.236,"end":386.022,"text":"所以今天我要再度強調,不是你們國會刀暴力就決定哪一個法院可以審、哪一個委會可以開。立法院從來沒有如此。大家注意看喔,這一刻正在發生。夫人席委員,你三個東西可以拿出來了,秀一下吧。我看你現在很認真。我這很認真看你們在幹什麼。"},{"start":388.063,"end":396.694,"text":"韓國昌委員請你去背負你的版本,不要依附共產黨,然後又不講話,頭搖搖去,沒有用了。"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}