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依照要塞堡壘地帶法裡面的規範以龍潭軍用機場為例有公告嗎這個是很重要的關鍵基礎設施"},{"start":206.087,"end":234.625,"text":"報告委員針對這個國防的相關的有一些他周圍有一些限制或管理的規定他是有一個國防依照剛剛講的要塞堡壘法去做一個公告你說的沒有錯嘛我齁幫你把話講完整一點如果是國防部的話他們會說這個應該是歸在要塞堡壘地帶法裡面規範那下一個問題來啦依照要塞堡壘地帶法裡面規範的話要公告目前所公告的22個地方有包括軍機場嗎"},{"start":236.53,"end":249.667,"text":"沒有包括軍機場沒有包括軍機場所以現在下一個關鍵的問題就來了我們在上一次修法的時候針對這麼重要的軍機場我們既沒有把它納入關鍵基礎設施"},{"start":251.806,"end":277.108,"text":"在要塞堡壘地帶法裡面也沒有公告是屬於他們要防護的要塞堡壘那請問針對軍機場這麼重要的關鍵基礎設施目前我們所採取的防護沒有把它納入關鍵基礎設施會產生什麼問題我直接把它點名啦這個是包括了臺大法學院包括了中研院一群學者"},{"start":278.26,"end":307.318,"text":"對於我們的國安體系所提出的事情他們在盤點上一屆國會修關鍵基礎設施的時候重大疏漏的時候一群由臺大法學院跟中研院法學院的學者他們聯名寫了一個聲明盤點上一屆國會修法以後出現重大的漏洞那些重大的漏洞包括我剛剛所點出來的第一個問題來看一下"},{"start":308.598,"end":335.466,"text":"中國的富豪買美國空軍基地旁邊的土地結果被駁回引發相當大的爭議為什麼因為這個美國空軍基地旁邊的土地他們把它納入什麼關鍵基礎設施的範圍之內局長贊不贊成對有他的相關的安全考量的依據可以理解可以理解嗎對台灣有相同的作為嗎"},{"start":337.711,"end":356.289,"text":"這就是我的問題台灣有相同的作為嗎?捍衛國家安全不是喊口號是在具體的法律設計跟我們的行政作為上嘛美國有這樣的規範那我就簡單的請教阿您贊不贊成這樣的規範如果您贊成的話我下一個問題台灣有這樣的規範嗎?如果台灣沒有這樣的規範台灣應不應該有這樣的規範來請教局長"},{"start":363.58,"end":384.662,"text":"對,我們可以來討論可以來討論嗎討論了8年啦討論了8年啦你們上次盤點關鍵基礎設施的時候學者很認真啊為了台灣的國家安全人家把問題都盤點出來了隔了一年你今天在外交國防委員會跟大家講說可以來討論好,需要討論多久"},{"start":386.263,"end":404.968,"text":"有在規劃,我們請那個國土辦公室來,需要規劃多久?報告委員,這個釐清過在目前兩岸人民關係條例裡面有相關的規定齁在授權的執法裡面,到地區人民來台投資或取得不動產沒有沒有沒有,你先停一下這個已經不是中國人買不買的問題啊"},{"start":406.528,"end":425.859,"text":"是其他的人脈可能都有這個問題啊北韓的人脈你覺得就OK嗎蘇俄的人脈你覺得就OK嗎我現在在跟你講規範的事情啊剛局長說要檢討我也給你時間檢討我最後一個問題不要耽誤其他委員的時間嘛要討論多久就這麼簡單的問題要討論多久"},{"start":429.448,"end":444.618,"text":"跟委員報告因為現在有相關的法令我可不可以做個說明一個是在土地法裡面針對外國人來購買的一些限制的法令的規定裡面就包含有要塞堡壘法第一代所劃定的所以我就問你嘛要塞堡壘法有說要軍機廠嗎"},{"start":447.679,"end":475.055,"text":"我剛已經告訴你了嘛要塞堡壘法有公告軍機場嗎你還在講公話我所有的法規都幫你整理完欸我很訝異欸竟然比我還不熟阿報告委員在許可辦法裡面的有一款是各目的社會主管機關來做一個會商吼然後呢會商完了嗎公告了嗎現在各個如果外國人要來取得國內的土地"},{"start":475.615,"end":475.815,"text":"謝謝主席的財事,謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}