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人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；六、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六\n條條文修正草案」案；七、審查委員呂玉玲等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補\n助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；八、審查委員吳思瑤等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支\n給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；九、審查委員陳超明等18人擬具「地\n方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例增訂第七條之一條文草案」案；十、審查委員\n李柏毅等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；十一、審查委員黃健豪等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例增\n訂第七條之一條文草案」案；十二、審查委員徐巧芯等28人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里\n長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十三、審查委員莊瑞雄等18人擬具「地方民意\n代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十四、審查委員高金素梅\n等29人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；十\n五、審查委員林思銘等26人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條\n文修正草案」案；十六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助\n費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十七、審查委員盧縣一等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支\n給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條、第七條及第九條條文修正草案」案；十八、審查委員蔡\n易餘等 19 人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；十九、審查委員范雲等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六\n條條文修正草案」案；二十、審查委員許宇甄等16人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務\n補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；二十一、審查委員黃秀芳等19人擬具「地方民意代表\n費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十二、審查委員鍾佳濱等27\n人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十\n三、審查委員陳瑩等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第五條、第\n六條及第七條條文修正草案」案；二十四、審查委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等 17 人擬具\n「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十五、審查\n委員陳素月等21人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草\n案」案；二十六、審查委員徐欣瑩等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助\n條例第三條及第六條條文修正草案」案；二十七、審查委員洪申翰等16人擬具「地方民意代表費\n用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十八、審查委員李彥秀等20人\n擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十九、\n審查委員吳琪銘等18人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第七條條文修\n正草案」案；三十、審查委員黃建賓等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補\n助條例第六條及第七條條文修正草案」案；三十一、審查委員劉建國等16人擬具「地方民意代表\n費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；三十二、審查委員高金素梅等\n22人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第八條條文修正草案」案；三十\n三、審查委員鄭正鈐等18人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條\n文修正草案」案；三十四、審查委員陳素月等22人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補\n助費補助條例第五條附表修正草案」案；三十五、審查委員陳培瑜等21人擬具「地方民意代表費\n用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；三十六、審查委員王美惠等21人\n擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；三十七、\n審查委員王育敏等16人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修\n正草案」案","agenda_id":"1134201_00002"}},"transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":5.549093750000001,"end":9.04221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9.21096875,"end":10.03784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":13.328468750000003,"end":13.800968750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":14.509718750000001,"end":17.395343750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":17.80034375,"end":20.14596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":20.28096875,"end":21.44534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":21.614093750000002,"end":23.031593750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":21.765968750000003,"end":21.78284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":21.79971875,"end":21.816593750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":23.21721875,"end":26.355968750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":23.47034375,"end":23.504093750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":26.71034375,"end":41.189093750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":36.29534375,"end":36.61596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":37.02096875,"end":37.071593750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":41.56034375,"end":42.53909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":42.60659375,"end":53.862218750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":42.84284375,"end":42.94409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":54.31784375,"end":59.19471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":59.38034375,"end":65.52284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":65.92784375000001,"end":69.35346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":69.87659375,"end":79.44471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":79.63034375000001,"end":83.66346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":83.86596875000001,"end":86.88659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":87.32534375,"end":88.40534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":88.65846875000001,"end":94.64909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":94.98659375000001,"end":107.08596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":101.50034375000001,"end":102.27659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":107.86221875000001,"end":113.93721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":111.67596875000001,"end":112.72221875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":114.19034375000001,"end":114.96659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":114.96659375,"end":117.70034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":115.21971875000001,"end":115.54034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":116.75534375000001,"end":122.10471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":121.96971875000001,"end":124.16346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":124.48409375000001,"end":126.30659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":126.42471875000001,"end":135.43596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":135.97596875000002,"end":136.63409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":137.74784375000002,"end":141.46034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":137.81534375,"end":138.37221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":139.89096875,"end":140.93721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":141.64596875,"end":142.60784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":143.04659375,"end":144.48096875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":144.98721875,"end":148.98659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":145.07159375,"end":145.71284375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":149.79659375,"end":152.02409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":150.60659375,"end":151.90596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":152.41221875000002,"end":153.47534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":152.54721875,"end":153.01971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":154.06596875,"end":156.71534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":156.91784375,"end":157.30596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":157.49159375000002,"end":159.80346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":159.87096875,"end":162.94221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":163.56659375,"end":168.30846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":168.56159375000001,"end":172.25721875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":173.50596875000002,"end":174.21471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":174.26534375,"end":183.02346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":183.29346875000002,"end":185.92596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":185.68971875000003,"end":185.80784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":187.56284375,"end":192.20346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":192.43971875000003,"end":193.65471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00"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