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這事情沒人知道的你講啊"},{"start":276.11,"end":296.117,"text":"委員有關這個我們回去請我們的中規司再來了解一下如果有相關的人我知道你也答不出來啦你交通部這個制度就有問題啦你自己部裡面的集合小組查到自己的單位你們部裡面的工程有出現問題然後關關相護啦"},{"start":302.645,"end":322.709,"text":"欸!32項缺失耶!不是3項耶!你們早就檢查出來啊!是!然後更離譜的啦!那個建造也是啦!建造,你說高有建造公司嘛!對不對!建造是!建造公司齁還作弊啦!他在工程日誌啊!檢查的時間啊!那寫錯啦!還寫在灌漿以前!你看喔!做...做表就不要做表!一般是灌漿之後才可以檢查!對不對!"},{"start":330.267,"end":333.179,"text":"他寫那個檢查日期寫在灌漿以前這個也被檢察官抓到啊"},{"start":338.312,"end":360.612,"text":"這個港鐵評決要嚇死人而且這個是跟安全有關係的嘛對不對你現在港鐵的意思是什麼這個沒有那麼嚴重根委員報告我們都已經這個在4年前發生了一個事情我們現在來講是說也經過我們那個整個在補強然後也經過大地工程學會我們有第三方的認證目前是這個邊坡是穩定安全"},{"start":361.252,"end":379.8,"text":"所以這事：所以你一件發生就發生案子已經在法院審判了嗎你們相關的單位包括你自己本人一件接一件又不是一件的你工具都是國家最重要的國道都要管的每次發發重大工程我才找到兩件都有弊案的而且都是那種偷工減料的不按圖施工真的還有出人命的"},{"start":391.997,"end":407.692,"text":"市長你這兩天你們有行政處分嗎?你們自己不用檢討嗎?還有你們的集合流程你們蓋嗎?是我想委員提出來的這些問題我們內部做一些檢討如果有相關人員疏失的話我們會做相關的行政處分"},{"start":409.946,"end":437.631,"text":"你給我打官腔的喔?不是阿你講這個會違規阿我跟委員剛才有特別講你一定要有處分阿你現在要當檢討生?我有話講啦我剛才有講被你打斷了就是那個公安的部分我們都有要求假設有公安的時候包含監照雙方甲乙雙方甚至工程單位我們也都會要求做相關的一個行政的處分那這裡頭有特別提到這種施工上的弊案的這些我想我們會一併做檢討是"},{"start":439.651,"end":449.049,"text":"投訴高峰局的啊這個單位要注意的我想交通部管的都要注意啦好 謝謝市長 謝謝局長"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}