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及第十三條條文修正草案"},{"start":447.25,"end":469.196,"text":"一、本院委員陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第"},{"start":470.832,"end":495.332,"text":"根委員報告,我們是希望說在全台灣各地都能有青年培力工作站,包括離島偏鄉,那這個原因呢?你的目標太過抽象,全島各地,你要各鄉啊,要投入多少人力、多少資源,你都要很明確,每一個鄉有一鄉一特色,然後你要這個鄉,比如說高雄市有38區,每一個區"},{"start":498.091,"end":500.826,"text":"這每一個區的特色你問怎麼去發展怎麼去導引"},{"start":502.113,"end":530.838,"text":"而不是說你當然當然是全國都要有全島都全國都要有這個培地站但是你要有工作目標要有明確不太抽象來再說一下跟委員報告我們目前因為今年培地工作站才剛開始兩三年我們目前的做法是先在各縣市先以各縣市比較均衡發展為主那委員這邊的建議所以各縣市在主導不是你們主導對各縣市會報計畫上來是你們在是我們在審查對在你們核建的過程中能夠考慮到這個"},{"start":531.918,"end":552.245,"text":"案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第"},{"start":562.589,"end":585.405,"text":"案,除了青年培力工作站之外,其實我們還有另外一個就是說創生計畫的部分在我們非都會區的部分也非常多。在北高雄有八個區,你們青年培力工作站設了幾站,投入多少資源,然後地方創生相關的執行狀況在我的選區你能不能做一個整理?"},{"start":586.245,"end":589.408,"text":"事由：立法院第11屆第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}