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差在9萬"},{"start":609.554,"end":632.063,"text":"的這個數額了喔你一年可以引進多少的外勞進來外籍公共進來一年我們現在還跟印度簽MOU還線上簽的都還沒有確定那我現在跟各位表達就是說當這個需要的29萬到目前都還沒有到位"},{"start":633.701,"end":662.212,"text":"還差了九萬的八十歲以上那八十歲以下剛剛也有國民黨委員特別提到七十到七十九歲的這個癌症的病友嘛對不對還有你包含這些十四項的這些這些需求到底是多少有沒有精算出來我要表達說當你把把整個這個八十四項表的評估拿掉然後你但是你還是要還需要再有一個病症及失能的診斷證明"},{"start":663.876,"end":685.143,"text":"這是另一個機制嘛。這個機制如果還是持續確保,包含勞動部之前在去年十月三項的多元的這樣的一個放寬。這樣林林總統加起來,你有沒有一個很明確的數字讓我們知道這樣的供給跟需求會有什麼樣的結構性的大變化?"},{"start":686.662,"end":714.919,"text":"會不會會不會今天因為委員在講說那到時候你公佈你去處理啊開放之後免評之後你去處理啊你自己去列優先順序當你列了優先順序重產的先重症的先八十歲以上的先八十歲以上的健康跟亞健康的排序是什麼樣可以很清楚的跟我們說明說明嗎如果你沒有辦法很清楚跟我們說明那就會出大問題喔我是外籍看護"},{"start":715.512,"end":741.357,"text":"我今天來到這個家庭裡面我看到這一個是到上手的是每天要灌死的然後搬也搬不太動的還要搬到洗澡的我們現在的外籍看護工是可以自由選擇僱主的喔我會不會馬上說我不來了幹了三天五天我就跑去跟仲介講說我要換僱主勞動部你要不要很忙"},{"start":742.745,"end":748.47,"text":"要不要去督促、要不要去監督啊為什麼一直換來換過去一直換來換過去換到最後我乾脆就逃跑了輝華移工已經八萬五應該是破九萬了啦這事情會不會更嚴重我只是從幾個面向來提供給大家因為我沒有得到這樣的很明確的數字的時候我會覺得做這個事情基本上它不是不對但是會非常危險"},{"start":772.469,"end":791.473,"text":"就是說前面的開放大家都拍手叫好我也支持啊但是後面產生出來的既然不是一個好效果是一個很嚴重的反效果整個外籍看護在台灣的流動的狀況不是缺了很多不是需要者有真正的進到這個家庭去做照護還是經常會發生這個外籍看護工"},{"start":795.29,"end":818.852,"text":"一下子來到這個僱主一下子又換到了僱主平均做的時間不會超過一個月不會超過兩個月台灣怎麼不會大亂所以我希望是在在在在召委今天是沒有針對法律的草案去修正還有一兩天的時間提供更正確的數據給我們所有委員做參考大家都是好意"},{"start":820.101,"end":840.256,"text":"大家都希望朝向更便民的方式但是當這個人力的不足當外籍看護可以自由選擇雇主的時候你真的要思考的非常多的面向包含這些重症的包含有國民黨委員提到的70到79歲的這些人你的優先順序你到底要怎麼排你不要排到最後全部都是那個健康的都可以請到都做了很久"},{"start":848.237,"end":870.322,"text":"我們還說這個台灣給外籍看護工的職場環境非常優結果重症的結果真正需求者通通被排擠掉那你要用什麼你現在要修哪一條法律說他不可以隨便更換僱主可以這樣做嗎有法律可以定成這樣嗎沒有喔違反人權喔請深思請思考謝謝好謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}