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均照審查會審查結果通過。三、通過附帶決議一項。四、檢附立法說明一份。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":3354.72,"end":3358.847,"text":"謝謝,那我們是不是今天這個協商的會議就到這邊結束。謝謝,我們就散會。謝謝大家參與,謝謝。"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}