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三、審查中華民國涉及活動及涉及器材權益促進會未建議修正《槍炮彈藥刀械管制條例部分條文請願文書》一案。 宣讀完畢。"},{"start":1909.383,"end":1918.715,"text":"本日議程所列討論事項和並詢答首先介紹在場的委員及列席的官員。我們首先介紹的是我們的游益蘭莊委、還有莊瑞雄委員、內政部林右昌部長、"},{"start":1928.786,"end":1948.503,"text":"地政司王成基司長、警政署黃明照署長、警政署刑事警察局周佑偉局長、警政署保安組李全哲組長、海洋委員會周梅武副主委、海域安全處黃宣凱處長、"},{"start":1950.305,"end":1962.312,"text":"海保署吳龍進副署長、海巡署巡訪組廖雲宏組長、營住民族委員會綜合規劃處亞博蘇勇、博伊哲奴處長、"},{"start":1964.264,"end":1980.697,"text":"大陸委員會法證處李佩如組長、法務部檢察司郭永芳司長、調部辦事主任檢察官李秀琳、司法院朱家川法官、"},{"start":1985.425,"end":1997.897,"text":"國防部作戰及計劃參謀次長是聯合作戰計劃處理昌富副處長。文化部影視及流行音樂產業局電影產業組楊秀玉組長。經濟部地質調查及礦業管理中心許慶元組長。"},{"start":2008.271,"end":2035.237,"text":"标准检验局王俊超组长、产业发展署曾智雄副组长、农业部业署刘家珍副组长、交通部行政司郑鸿正检任记证、财政部官务署检任集合曾正达、行政与人事行政总组组编人力处专门委员蔡县伟。"},{"start":2039.767,"end":2042.174,"text":"請提案委員說明提案要旨,首先請郵抓委員提案說明。"},{"start":2054.58,"end":2073.752,"text":"介於近來陸續查獲新型態的改造槍炮或持槍在公共場所鳴槍的行為已經造成大眾恐慌,使有修正相關管理規範以維護社會治安及保障人民權益之必要。"},{"start":2074.632,"end":2091.759,"text":"隨著科技發展日新月異,槍炮彈藥的主要組成零件材質不斷推陳出新,國內製造的模擬槍及遊戲用槍在樣式、尺寸及材質上均極度仿真,為避免"},{"start":2092.919,"end":2108.231,"text":"該等槍枝零件遭改造使用與組裝非製式槍炮有關槍炮及彈藥主要組成零件的材質以及殺傷力之認定本行修法組裝應該經由槍炮彈藥審認爭議諮詢小組採納各界的意見審議後由中央主管機關公告已度爭議。"},{"start":2122.694,"end":2139.848,"text":"另外,為了因應擴大公民參與的潮流趨勢,審議小組的組成應該聆聘相關機關代表及專家學者且外聘委員元素不得少於全體委員的二分之一以為審議之專業"},{"start":2142.29,"end":2157.801,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":2159.022,"end":2160.463,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":2174.855,"end":2192.521,"text":"長所之開槍犯案行為應該加以明確規範。另外,違反槍砲彈藥刀戒管制條例的行為人在偵審過程曾經自白,但卻供詞反覆或供述不實,為避免"},{"start":2193.823,"end":2214.201,"text":"造成社會重大危害與保護他人生命、身體安全之重大法益,原修法規定得由法官依個案事實衡酌判斷,加重其刑至二分之一。法規在執行更應符合法律明確性,規範對象、規範行為及法律效果應明確。"},{"start":2219.085,"end":2228.994,"text":"使受規範者能夠清楚預見,以消滅爭議,故本席主張應組成具有專業、中立、客觀之槍砲彈藥爭議諮詢小組進行各項槍砲彈藥爭議審議,使執法機關有明確"},{"start":2240.885,"end":2249.608,"text":"依循而非讓基層員警疲於奔命及明確規範相關違法行為以確保社會安定。"},{"start":2263.353,"end":2265.914,"text":"在場所有媒體朋友、聯席官員,建議我國多起一個抽砂船違法的行為。行為人都主張所用的抽砂船或器具非屬其所有,企圖來規避這樣的一個法則。"},{"start":2280.838,"end":2299.348,"text":"同時在我們刑法第38條第二項的規定是供犯罪所用、犯罪預備之物、犯罪所得之物屬於犯罪行為忍者得、沒受之,但有特別規定者以其規定。為了避免類似的情況再發生,所以以刑法38條第二項的但書為核心,"},{"start":2301.129,"end":2324.904,"text":"我們提出了《中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案》案。針對此條的第三項所定的犯罪用之船舶或其他機械設備徵定不論屬於犯罪行為人與否,莫收之,以完備法令的一個規範。根據我們各位委員,我們共同來討論跟支持。謝謝。"},{"start":2327.443,"end":2328.305,"text":"中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文"},{"start":2340.683,"end":2358.081,"text":"主席、各位委員、女士先生,以下請就《中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法》以及《槍砲彈藥刀械管制條例部分條文修正草案》,請將本部意見說明如此。請各位委員參考。"},{"start":2359.622,"end":2379.811,"text":"首先在中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法部分有關莊瑞雄委員等17人、蔡易餘委員等16人提出提案修正中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文針對第三項鎖定犯罪用之傳播或其他"},{"start":2380.951,"end":2401,"text":"機械設備、增訂不問屬於犯罪行為人與否等內容已完備法令規範,本部對此次的修法予以尊重,為暗涉檢察官偵查起訴實務及法官自量財量權,是否透過修法限縮法院財量空間,本部尊重協商共識。"},{"start":2403.175,"end":2428.331,"text":"有關槍炮彈藥、刀械管制條例。一、為技術杜絕、改造槍枝及彈藥零件流通、公然開槍行為以及開槍後隨即吸械、自首行為及開放隱士、設置運用模擬槍等本部積極研修槍炮彈藥、刀械管制條例、多方參採實務以及學者的意見。"},{"start":2429.572,"end":2436.525,"text":"僅行政院院會審查遵事,並在112年10月6日由行政院函請大院審議。三、"},{"start":2441.741,"end":2463.926,"text":"沙格趙委員等21人提案修正第五條之二條文部分,委員提案與行政院草案政策方向尚無敵處,建議與行政院板併案討論。三、時代立法黨團提案修正第20條之一部分,行政院板修正草案第20條之一,增設隱私設置用模擬槍之規定,並設置模擬槍評估審議委員會。"},{"start":2467.927,"end":2490.846,"text":"在行政院提案範疇已包括委員提案,建議與行政院版併案討論。三、張祺祿委員等18人提案修正第五條之一及第20條之一與行政院版修正草案第20條之一偵測隱私設置用模擬槍支規定,行政院提案範疇已包括委員提案,建議與行政院版併案討論。"},{"start":2492.507,"end":2509.286,"text":"陳明文委員等18人提案修正第六條之一、第七條、第八條、第十二條、第十三條、第十八條以及第二十條之一有關提高刑務部分,是否能兼顧其他法律刑務之恆平性?本部尊重權責機關之意見,建議在於審酌。"},{"start":2513.417,"end":2540.607,"text":"陳柏惟、許智傑委員等18人提案修正第四條、第五條之二、第五條之三、第六條之一及第二十條之一提升模擬槍管制並將模擬槍零件一併納入管制範疇部分。本次行政院的提案第二十條之一有偵測隱私設置用模擬槍規定已包含委員提案,建議與行政院版併案討論。參與委員等19人提案修正第七條"},{"start":2542.301,"end":2557.858,"text":"提高製造販賣及持有制式、非制式槍炮之刑期並增訂第二十二條第三項提高檢舉獎金有關提高刑度部分是否能兼顧其他法律刑度之含平性本不尊重權責機關的意見"},{"start":2559.844,"end":2571.905,"text":"令本部予預告修正檢舉違反槍炮彈藥刀械管制條例案件給獎辦法,全面提升檢舉獎金,是否須在特別規範,宜在於審酌。"},{"start":2573.82,"end":2593.521,"text":"莫美林委員等16人提案修正第四條將空炮彈納入管制部分因其數量龐大且民間普遍使用工業用釘槍考量民間工業發展及一般民眾使用本次行政委員法草案於第十三條之一針列子彈主要組成零件處罰規定"},{"start":2594.983,"end":2605.8,"text":"以將中央敵火之空炮彈將一併納入管制,達到沿途管制改造彈藥之效果,先進提案範疇已包含委員提案,一再於審酌。"},{"start":2607.796,"end":2634.222,"text":"王美惠委員等22人提案修正第四條、第五條之三、第九條之一、第十三條、第十三條之一、第十八條之修正草案有關第九條之一提高行動及第十八條之第一項及第四項修正不得免除其行部分是否能兼顧其他法律行動之含平性本部尊重全策機關之意見"},{"start":2635.422,"end":2648.378,"text":"其所提修正意見與本部意見大致相同,本部竟表同意。蘇伊蘭委員等16人提案修正第四條、第五條之三、第九條之一、第十八條"},{"start":2649.932,"end":2677.122,"text":"有關修正條文第四條第三項槍炮彈藥主要組成零件材質與種類及殺傷力之認定基準,本部件表同意。修正條文第五條之三部分規範諮詢小組外聘委員比例為二分之一,而本部件為至少三分之一。修正條文第十八條第四項後段部分,"},{"start":2678.977,"end":2701.483,"text":"倘行為人於自白後又拒絕供訴或供訴不實者授權法官依個案事實權衡得加重其刑至二分之一規定,是否能兼顧其他法律刑部之含平性,本部尊重權責機關之意見。委員所提修正草案與本部意見大致相同,本部競表同意。"},{"start":2702.783,"end":2727.595,"text":"陳廷飛委員等16人提案修正第四條、第五條之二、第五條之三、第九條之一、第十三條、第十三條之一、第十八條、第二十條之一、第二十條之二、第二十條之三、第二十五條修正草案第十三條部分及修正草案第十三條之一提高刑度部分尊重委員之提案。"},{"start":2728.735,"end":2743.109,"text":"至於是否能兼顧其他法律行動之含平性,本不尊重權責機關之意見,其一部分大致與行政院提案之內容相同,建議與行政院版併案討論。以上其大院委員予以支持,敬請指教。謝謝。"},{"start":2759.932,"end":2787.592,"text":"主席、各位委員、女士、先生,大家好。海洋委員會成立以來,承蒙大院委員支持與指教,使得各項海洋事務循序推展,再次表達至高的謝意。針對本日排審之專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法,感謝大院的關切與重視,並優先納入審議排程。本日應邀提出報告及說明,敬請各位委員會以支持不吝指導。"},{"start":2788.735,"end":2793.292,"text":"大陸抽砂船為規避我方的查緝常常利用夜案"},{"start":2794.434,"end":2809.757,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":2823.599,"end":2848.495,"text":"當的這些風險之大是難以超乎想像的。我海巡同仁都是冒著生命危險來執法,捍衛我國的海洋資源與權益。臺灣是民主國家,司法獨立。我們也必須尊重法官林岸、余恆的裁量權。而判決的法律見解不同,會造成判決的落差過大。海巡署於110年所查扣的展勝98號及華益9號,"},{"start":2851.877,"end":2877.663,"text":"這兩艘抽砂船正因為法官的見解不同,產生一艘判決沒收,一艘撤銷沒收的判決。那麼完全相反的判決,深深打擊了基層海巡的士氣,未來也恐將造成海巡第一線同仁在執法上的摯愛。大陸抽砂船違法的抽砂,破壞我國海域的生態、環境甚巨。"},{"start":2879.813,"end":2893.704,"text":"為了有效防堵抽砂船違法抽砂的行為,避免犯罪行為的人主張所用之抽砂船或器具非屬其所有規避罰則,本次大院委員針對中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法提案修法,"},{"start":2899.989,"end":2926.374,"text":"就其犯罪用的船舶或其他機械設備,徵定不問屬於犯罪行為人與否的內容,讓遂行抽殺這種惡行的船舶,不問是否為行為人所有,都應與沒收。除可有效嚇阻違法抽殺船的行為外,更能完備海巡機關執行工作時所需的法制,提升惡煮抽殺船違法抽殺行為之效。"},{"start":2927.034,"end":2931.595,"text":"以上報告敬請執教,並祝各位委員身體健康,萬事如意。"},{"start":2934.98,"end":2961.91,"text":"其他單位的報告請委員自行參閱並刊登公報。現在進行委員諮詢前,原例做幾點宣告。本會委員發言時間5分鐘,必要時延長2分鐘。非本會委員發言時間5分鐘,上午11時截止發言登記。因為經營法案處理本次會議就不處理臨時提案。請問各位委員有沒有意見?"},{"start":2963.114,"end":2968.975,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":2990.102,"end":3010.89,"text":"從去年下半年開始,陸續發生很多起社會矚目槍擊案件,造成多人死傷,也影響社會穩定,對治安造成衝擊。警政署統計分析顯示,改造槍枝零件日益精良,取得容易,"},{"start":3011.69,"end":3036.208,"text":"同時又因為改造的子彈來源充沛,如果沒有及時的控管,對於自安危害程度會升高。因此對於本次的修法,本席先肯定政府在打擊不法槍支彈藥上的決心。但是這次的修法,似乎對於合法的業者還是有一些趕盡殺絕的疑慮。主要的原因是因為我們看到這個現在"},{"start":3040.331,"end":3062.865,"text":"技術很進步,真槍跟模擬槍跟玩具槍的區別越來越小。我們羅美林召委在兩個星期前,我們有安排到成功嶺的替代役的訓練中心去。其實他們現在有很多的訓練,射擊訓練都是玩具槍,都是用玩具槍。"},{"start":3065.663,"end":3088.603,"text":"因為這個玩具槍所可能產生這個模擬的效果其實跟真槍還是很真實只不過是沒有殺傷力的所以他們這個真槍跟模擬槍玩具槍的區別是非常的小而且我們臺灣的玩具槍業者製造的技術可能是全世界最好的"},{"start":3089.324,"end":3091.906,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":3108.372,"end":3124.325,"text":"這都是因為我們科技、產業各種越來越進步,但是民間合法的生存遊戲、射擊教育、玩具槍與二產業的發展,這也是在憲法保障的工作權跟財產權。"},{"start":3125.726,"end":3136.074,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":3143.783,"end":3158.263,"text":"我們並沒有全面禁止模擬槍,而是如你剛剛所說的,我們在最近的一個治安暴力的犯罪案件上面看起來有非常明確的一個數字。我們查獲的"},{"start":3159.344,"end":3161.207,"text":"非制式槍支高達93.65%,非制式槍支高達98.57%。"},{"start":3174.545,"end":3176.406,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具、「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":3190.733,"end":3216.977,"text":"二是合法業者的部分。我想這次我們也希望能夠有明確的一些規定。那你特別提到的模擬槍,我們並沒有禁止模擬槍,而是針對包括它的一個材質的部分,還有它的硬度的部分來進行相關的規範。那它一方面可以擬真,但二方面它又不至於這個被改造之後然後具有殺傷力。"},{"start":3217.777,"end":3245.74,"text":"對,因為剛剛部長所提到的是不管是93%或97%、98%這種因為台灣本來就是我們改造槍支可能技術上在全世界也是名列前茅的啦但是我們警政署到底在你們在偵查這些槍擊案件之中有沒有針對哪些槍是被是用這個"},{"start":3247.361,"end":3253.28,"text":"模擬槍或非常敏真的模擬槍然後拿去改造成真槍,有沒有這方面的數據?"},{"start":3256.681,"end":3272.773,"text":"現在幾乎查獲到的非制式槍支,第一個就是模擬槍所改製而成的,第二個是由模擬槍的零組件套裝起來而成的一個非制式槍支,幾乎現在都是這樣子查獲的。那都有具有殺傷力嗎?當然,我們的艦艇具有殺傷力才會移送。"},{"start":3278.615,"end":3294.105,"text":"我們做了這樣的管制之後,部長跟署長,你們覺得就可以完全禁絕黑槍嗎?因為事實上,現在我們知道黑槍走私進口的管道仍然存在,還是很多的,有沒有辦法?"},{"start":3295.126,"end":3298.41,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":3312.449,"end":3321.736,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":3333.764,"end":3339.732,"text":"這也是因為剛剛本席也有提到,我們有去考察的時候才發現說,其實我們國內在玩具槍、模擬槍上面製造的技術是大概是全世界是獨步全球的。"},{"start":3348.524,"end":3357.111,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":3365.478,"end":3374.642,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":3394.11,"end":3421.918,"text":"本席還是要問一下一個問題就是我們大法官在110年5月7號就做出803號解釋就說兩年內應該要針對槍炮彈藥、刀械許可及管理辦法之中跟原住民自製獵槍相關的部分要進行檢討修法為什麼到現在都還沒有提出來呢?"},{"start":3425.077,"end":3454.069,"text":"跟委員報告那個因為有一些那個團體就是狩獵團體有部分的意見但是我們也開了很多次會議現在爭議點是在這個進口的這些類槍的話價錢比較高那我們也協調國安部針對這個業者部分能降低他的一個零件零件的一個價格還有整支槍支的價格爭議大概在這裡而已"},{"start":3454.397,"end":3459.879,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":3483.649,"end":3485.751,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":3499.125,"end":3517.857,"text":"我個人是認為都已經延宕了半年以上了,我們應該要緊述,這是事關我們原住民的這個傳統文化的維護,跟他們的基本的這個權益,所以務必請警政署再盡快要把這個給修出來。好,謝謝。謝謝,我們感謝姚召偉,我們請羅召偉、美玲。"},{"start":3534.725,"end":3538.686,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":3564.778,"end":3589.855,"text":"警察不當盤查的事情。今年初,發生了一件台灣史上第一件,員警因為不當盤查,然後有兩個員警被分別處4個月到6個月的徒刑。當這個事情的背景是在2021年的時候,有一位音樂老師在路上行走,要到他的音樂教室的時候,"},{"start":3590.6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組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其主要組成零件或彈藥,其"},{"start":5315.058,"end":5337.364,"text":"109年6月10日公布施行其他的條文自公布日施行。我們看這個。109年5月22日修正之條文自公布日施行。唯獨原住民的條款第二十條第三項之施行日期由行政院定之。"},{"start":5340.371,"end":5360.508,"text":"這個條文就是不公平的條文,不正義的條文,原住民的就要另訂,我們也犧牲了,好,好,那你另訂啊,那你趕快訂吧。結果呢,到現在還沒有訂出來喔,到現在還沒有訂出來。按照中央行政計畫法制作業應注意事項,這個法規命令啊,"},{"start":5364.229,"end":5392.695,"text":"在法律公佈施行後6個月內要完成發布,109年到現在,現在已經3年多了,3年7個多月了,所以違反行政院自己定的一個標準,頂多一年,延後發布期限不得6個月,就是一年,頂多一年,所以到現在都還沒有發布,"},{"start":5394.138,"end":5395.038,"text":"司法院大法官會議宪判制第803日"},{"start":5411.86,"end":5440.528,"text":"這裡明定有關機關應自持自本解釋公佈之日期兩年內,依本解釋意旨儘速檢討修正,就商開規範不足之部分,定定符合憲法保障原住民得安全從事合法狩獵活動之自製獵槍,這定義性規範。這個最主要就是我們要有安全的自製獵槍。"},{"start":5443.345,"end":5464.972,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":5473.291,"end":5495.443,"text":"部長,什麼時候可以發布?管理辦法。好,非常謝謝委員。我想這個事情我們部裡面還有包括警政署都非常的重視。所以目前草案的部分已經在1月19號完成預告。那並且在今年的5月開始有辦了八場的一個分區的座談會。"},{"start":5497.085,"end":5511.743,"text":"在今年的6月份、7月份和10月份,我們跟國防部和人民會有開了三次會議,基本上大部分都已經有共識了。目前還有需要凝聚共識的兩點,"},{"start":5512.844,"end":5540.363,"text":"第一點是自私的獵槍因為價格很高,那我們原住民買不起。所以要讓原住民能夠擁有這個自私的這種安全的這種槍支,必須在這個金額上面可能要再做進一步的一個比如說是補貼補助或者其他方式的一個處理,這部分還帶跟原民會來做這個協商跟討論。第二個是安全的問題,"},{"start":5541.084,"end":5547.885,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":5569.707,"end":5598.132,"text":"我們看這個條文的最後一句話由中央主管機關就是指內政部會同中央原住民族主管機關及國防部定當初為什麼會把國防部列計系列討論的時候內政委員會討論的時候為什麼會把國防部加上去就是希望國防部他們本來就有這個本來就有這些工廠啊"},{"start":5600.131,"end":5623.226,"text":"我們也不是要那麼多先進的,對不對?本來國防部就有這個工廠,所以他們不願意,不願意為原住民不依法,不依法行政。這是第一個。第二個,部長你剛剛提到了,部長,部長,這個方向錯誤,很貴,當然從國外來當然很貴啊。台灣的,台灣的玩技槍啊,"},{"start":5630.54,"end":5647.845,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":5659.982,"end":5663.484,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":5677.554,"end":5703.664,"text":"要請警政署、內政部,尤其是內政部,他們要去協調國防部困難,所以要部長你要去協調,請次長去協調國防部,然後不要擔心我們台灣很多,為什麼一定要進口,進口當然就很貴,所以這個部分要請內政部要加油,等一下我們審查條文的時候我們可以再好好討論。"},{"start":5704.935,"end":5707.659,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":5713.766,"end":5728.318,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":5737.105,"end":5749.589,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":5758.172,"end":5771.045,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":5799.983,"end":5801.996,"text":"藉主席請內政部林部長"},{"start":5812.122,"end":5829.653,"text":"這個我們上次在這個徐國勇部長任內的時候本席爭取了一個亮點計畫就是金門的亮點計畫十一億那當初的這個內容是做金門環島自行車道路網系統還有泰晤山的臨間步道系統還有一個參與參與型的戰爭體驗計畫這個部分在112年到115年間"},{"start":5838.078,"end":5860.751,"text":"那我們看到後來這個原來建制金門環島自行車道路系統的計畫,這個是不是有變更,要轉為改善六一道路還有金湖鎮的中正公園大小太湖的這個周邊道路?那個委員所提的這個是否有變更,我並不清楚這一個訊息。你不瞭解齁?好,我下一頁,你看一下。"},{"start":5862.168,"end":5865.15,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":5883.866,"end":5891.192,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":5912.336,"end":5937.117,"text":"目前縣政府他們是在做這個規劃跟設計他們預計是在明年一一三年的時候才要向國土署來做提報所以已經變更了那我的看法是說當然就是說嗯我也覺得進行這個計畫是很重要但是因為這是我們地方政府提出來我當然也是支持就是說既然現任縣長有他的這個想法那這個亮點計畫雖然是那時候我們在"},{"start":5938.138,"end":5956.769,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、"},{"start":5960.691,"end":5971.838,"text":"吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋是屬於我們金門縣的一個鄉。吳秋"},{"start":5978.863,"end":5981.426,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":6000.103,"end":6002.885,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":6021.818,"end":6023.961,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":6034.724,"end":6039.707,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":6055.476,"end":6078.818,"text":"這個有沒有問題?委員這個是不是容我們回去研究一下?是,你們整個研究一下,這個島上之所以第一個交通不放,交通部門現在已經要做碼頭,這個因為內政部沒有在內,我等一下問,請海巡署上來。對,這是海巡署,因為上來海巡署也有別的相關,但是,名稱基本需求應該是屬於內政部,所以這個回去也幫我們關系一下。我們研究一下。不應該他因為他偏遠,他就減少他這樣的名稱需求。"},{"start":6081.299,"end":6107.167,"text":"吳丘基本上都是軍事管制的區域,一般的民眾很少,所以其實我也蠻想去看一下島上的狀況。不然如果選舉過後,我們找個時間,國安還有時間嗎?1月13選舉,2月1號中間,不然就找個時間。真的,當作第一位踏上吳丘島的內政部長,幫我們真的了解當地的需求,真的真的,好嗎?是,如果有機會的話。好好,謝謝部長。"},{"start":6115.323,"end":6133.618,"text":"吳修整建碼頭在108年的4月26日我們金門有開一個首長聯席會報那時候張景生政委有裁示國安部會會長金門縣海海巡署統一需求後面沒有具體進度我之前有在緊盯國安部海軍事務部告訴我他完成了可行性的評估報告規劃編列11億6500多萬其中有"},{"start":6140.697,"end":6163.212,"text":"總共20億,國防部編列11億,海巡署要編列6億,金門縣要編列1億6千多萬,因為剛我提過那個碼頭因為沒有碼頭,那個署長應該就去過了吧?您去過了嗎?你看那個碼頭沒有辦法靠船嘛,所以交通極為不便,15天一班船,返鄉都沒有辦法停留超過一個小時,大概兩個小時,您知道吧?"},{"start":6163.732,"end":6167.193,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十一、九、十一、九、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一、十一"},{"start":6189.762,"end":6196.469,"text":"目前這個案子政策決定後,我們現在預劃就是從114年,對,開114年,因為我們所分攤的部分就像委員剛剛的資料所取的,因為張景深政委已經開過協調,我們108年就開了,所以你們從114年開始編啊?"},{"start":6211.224,"end":6214.905,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":6238.066,"end":6240.707,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十。"},{"start":6265.079,"end":6284.385,"text":"我們中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第二條第一項規定中華民國的專屬經濟海域為臨接臨海外側至距離臨海基線兩百里間的一個海域但是我們之前的我們的海洋研究船新海岩一號"},{"start":6286.306,"end":6308.199,"text":"那經過跨部會的審議通過7月在海巡署吉安艦的介護下在沖繩的東北部我們的專屬經濟海域進行研究卻被日本的海上保安廳以從事未經同意的調查活動理由驅逐請問這樣子也算是台日友好嗎政府有沒有抗議呢"},{"start":6310.243,"end":6332.218,"text":"我想那個地方這個是我們主張的一個領域但是它也是一個台日重疊的一個海域所以我們當然會這個依法維護我們的一個權益那所以是尊重日方來驅逐嗎?是這個意思嗎?我們當然也會表述我們的一個主張那當然在這部分來"},{"start":6334.465,"end":6339.435,"text":"部長請教啊那在南沙跟東沙會不會發生類似的問題啊?"},{"start":6341.062,"end":6368.648,"text":"我想我們的法律規定其實都很清楚只要是我國所屬的一個領海還有這個經濟的一個海域的話我們都相關國軍還有包括海巡署都是以相關的一個規定來做處置當然這個部分當然要請內政部當然包含海委會海巡這邊來研究怎麼樣來確保我們的漁民跟科研船在這邊的合法權益這一個部分內政部可以努力去做嗎"},{"start":6371.125,"end":6379.383,"text":"我們不是海研單位,也不是海巡署,不過就法的部分,我想我們會做這樣的一個主張。"},{"start":6386.232,"end":6404.061,"text":"我們相關的這次修法針對槍砲彈藥刀械管制條例將不法模擬槍提升到刑法的規範將子彈零件列入行政法徵定公共場所開槍罪等本席是肯定這樣子的一個修法方向是正確"},{"start":6405.282,"end":6419.447,"text":"但是這個條例第十八條第四項後段,拒絕公訴或公訴不實者得加重其刑至三分之一,並沒有刪除。其實這個部分是有一些爭議的。部長你知道哪裡有爭議嗎?"},{"start":6426.198,"end":6449.679,"text":"據本席的了解沒有法官會把這個條文予以適用過本席認為這個條文違反了刑法不自證己罪的原則非常明顯所以有違憲的疑慮當然也中關我們所有的法律並沒有這樣子一個規定所以這個條文是不是要去思考怎麼樣來修正"},{"start":6450.279,"end":6471.687,"text":"目前業者進口低動能的槍枝銷售,內政部檢驗署是依據低動能槍枝輸入審查要點來予以準駁。但是該要點依據是貿易法第十一條第一項的但書,基於因為國際的條約或基於國防治安得予限制。但是這個法律的主管機關是經濟部。"},{"start":6474.128,"end":6494.366,"text":"所以這個相關的要點公佈跟準駁的權限都不是警政署那警政署卻自己把它訂定這個規範然後來予以批准或者駁回不想覺得這樣可以嗎?主管機關是經濟部喔但是卻由警政署來批准這不是很怪嗎?"},{"start":6495.847,"end":6523.699,"text":"跟委員報告兩個部分,第一個是委員剛剛提到的那個前一題,我想如果立法院審議的話,並且經相關學者專家大家有共識有修正的一個必要的話,我們本部會予以尊重。好,那這個部分大家也請內政部委帶回去研究一下,好不好?那當然另外一個部分就是我剛剛講到的,這一個部分就是所謂低動能槍支的銷售,那現在警政署來予以準博。"},{"start":6524.559,"end":6552.041,"text":"這部分我請水長來做說明。當然我們低動能槍枝的一個審查是根據貿易法第11條的規定來辦理。我們實施到從去年的9月份開始實施到現在大概都很順利。業者部分當然也能遵守這個審核的一個規定來辦理。"},{"start":6553.703,"end":6566.56,"text":"雖然主責是國貿局、經濟部的國貿署來辦理的,但是因為基於治安為由,這個邊境的一個審查還由我們警政署來辦理,是這樣在運作。"},{"start":6571.149,"end":6594.944,"text":"我們這次草案甄列第五條之三的一個條款政府為審認槍炮條例的爭議臨聘相關的組織、機構、專家、學者來成立的爭議小組但這個新增的條文是源自於修法管理模擬槍時候建立的模擬槍審議委員會的法制化"},{"start":6595.845,"end":6596.045,"text":"模擬槍審議委員會轉型為槍砲彈藥審議委員會,"},{"start":6608.316,"end":6634.067,"text":"這會不會在這個功能上其實是有所區別因為基本上模擬槍跟所謂的槍炮彈藥其實還是有差距的啦所以在這個部分當然也有業者反應就是說很多當然參加會議的專家的政府單位像經濟部或他們完全不了解槍炮的專業知識那所謂的專家學者當然有一些是我們警大的或相關單位的教授"},{"start":6634.827,"end":6657.379,"text":"所以在這一個部分是不是請部長跟這個也要帶回去去思考怎麼樣來做一個修正跟加強因為畢竟當然在這個槍枝的部分槍械彈藥的部分這個經濟部也沒有所謂的專業的功能所以如何來強化這個部分請內政部來思考可以嗎"},{"start":6659.87,"end":6680.908,"text":"跟我們報告我想這個會奠定一個辦法組成那個辦法那到時候組成辦法裡面組成的那個這個專家學者還有機關單位代表我們會審慎來組成這個建議說就是基本上假如要開類似相關的會議恐怕要把內容先提供給大家因為畢竟這個實在太專業"},{"start":6681.809,"end":6688.959,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":6701.634,"end":6722.468,"text":"二十條之三修正條文是由原本的警察機關得進入廠商處所進行來行政的檢查但應該會同中央目的主管事業機關也就是經濟部一起來做但這一次我們把它改成必要時會同事業主管機關"},{"start":6723.148,"end":6732.04,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":6739.562,"end":6759.177,"text":"玩具槍管理規則被在民國九十一年司法院釋憲五百七十號的釋憲文裡面宣告為違憲。它理由是,人民自由跟權利的限制依據憲法第二十三條規定,要法律定之。在這裡面授權的目的內容範圍要明確,使得據已發布命令。"},{"start":6762.579,"end":6783.751,"text":"將玩具槍納入所謂的限制輸入和平表裡面,算是政府繞過法律自行擴權的一小步。現在當然我們修法通過的話,把經濟部這些相關的單位量到一邊去,其實這個部分當然也供內政部、警政署來思考一下,恰不恰當。所以在這個部分,"},{"start":6784.791,"end":6811.366,"text":"這個本席今天提出來一些修法相關的建議或者想法,這個請內政部跟檢驗署好好商量,好不好?好,謝謝委員提醒,我想我們希望這個法案的一個修正能夠更加的一個這個完整跟圓滿,因為這個槍砲彈藥的這些管制的這些標的,它都不是一般的這些商品,"},{"start":6811.966,"end":6820.074,"text":"審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":6837.842,"end":6838.722,"text":"張宏祿委員張宏祿委員海巡署中副主委"},{"start":6867.774,"end":6896.732,"text":"委員長副主委其實我們今天就講到說這個抽砂船其實抽砂船每次一來那個數量都是蠻多的其實我們的艦艇有的比較小、噸位比較小有的也沒有辦法一次面對這麼多又要強行登船其實也有蠻多的危險在這種情況之下我不知道"},{"start":6897.852,"end":6919.866,"text":"所以我們抓到的違法的抽砂船其實比例跟它實際來的其實不高,對不對?跟委員報告,現在抽砂船因為我們通過這兩個法則,屠宰法跟專軍法之後,從110年到現在,這個整個抽砂船違法抽砂的情形,"},{"start":6920.626,"en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不過我跟委員報告一下,因為"},{"start":7239.745,"end":7262.492,"text":"這一條其實有立即的急迫性的一個需要因為我們看到很多的犯罪分子他是利用這個法律上的一個漏洞那我們這一次因為要修這個槍砲彈藥這個管制條例所以我們在這個地方我們同步把它做修法這樣子修法通過之後我們可以去立即來做試用"},{"start":7263.462,"end":7266.364,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":7282.632,"end":7307.996,"text":"對空,不管你在哪,你公共場所,你對空民槍,沒有犯刑法,啊沒有,你剛剛署長講的意思,我覺得我聽了也覺得很奇怪啊。呃,如果認真追究,應該有對呃,公共危害公共安全的這一條罪啦齁,但是這個比較輕罪,會被槍砲的,呃,持有槍砲來吸收,所以還是用槍砲條例來,來判罪啦,所以,沒辦法提升他的一個刑度啦。"},{"start":7309.055,"end":7328.425,"text":"我知道啦,但我們沒關係等一下再討論,我覺得好,那我如果原住民在我的豐年祭裡面,我對空開好幾槍,那怎麼辦?這個是處罪,這個沒有問題,因為他這個是因為他的文化跟這個民俗祭典的關係。我不是說他在慶典開的,他可能跟人家有衝突喔。"},{"start":7330.209,"end":7330.89,"text":"張宏祿委員,接下來邀請吳麗華委員發言。"},{"start":7382.771,"end":7383.092,"text":"有請次長及署長,"},{"start":7396.439,"end":7420.608,"text":"司長好、署長好。辦公室這邊有跟警政署希望能夠提供一個近幾年持槍的案件數。但是我拿到的是槍擊案的案件數。我不曉得說是不是對於持槍沒有去做統計。"},{"start":7423.63,"end":7438.418,"text":"跟委員報告我們在提供可能當時在我們的認知上有錯誤這個我們在提供那個持有槍其實我是希望瞭解還有獵槍的數據就是持槍案裡面獵槍的數據因為我想這個部分對我們來講其實是問證也是很需要的一個基礎資料那就麻煩再提供"},{"start":7450.644,"end":7467.869,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":7476.909,"end":7503.888,"text":"理由就是看到現在社會改造槍支的方案比例越來越高對嗎那也發現槍彈這些零組件沒有完全的納管那另外更重要的是大家都在談的就是現在原本我們這個是管制條例管制槍支的使用但是呢現在增加了一個就是開槍的行為"},{"start":7505.309,"end":7513.291,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":7531.826,"end":7534.428,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":7552.297,"end":7565.84,"text":"槍枝忘記登記要去申請這個動作我們一般來講都不太賢手經常忘記不曉得說新增了這個第九條之一第二項之後會不會被處罰會不會用刑法來處罰感謝委員的指教這一部分已經都排除了啦已經排除在忘記申請也會排除"},{"start":7583.489,"end":7602.199,"text":"這部份因為刑法的部份已經排除,那行政法的部份還是有。那怎麼辦?我想這部份我們會先導啦,我們會再去輔導他。僅僅用宣導?僅僅用宣導?因為現在有一些的確像委員講的一樣,"},{"start":7603.28,"end":7621.583,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":7632.745,"end":7648.75,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":7662.93,"end":7680.499,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":7690.925,"end":7706.812,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":7719.639,"end":7746.797,"text":"那至於說這個司法怎麼去判你還是依循這個大法官會議解釋跟這個憲法相關規定嗎來蘇長請跟委員報告那有關於原住民的持有制式類槍或者是原民的一個基本法我們都會把我們的警察的那個長年教育訓練我每三個月都一個講習我會納入在這個講習的課程裡面讓我們員警多了解到原民的"},{"start":7747.337,"end":7759.323,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":7775.37,"end":7782.993,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":7796.438,"end":7821.647,"text":"針對新增的第九條之一或者是修正的第四條新增的第五條之三新增的第十三條之一新增的第二十條之二這是我們很多原民團體有意見的部分可能會衝擊到我們的部分我希望這個部分我只要先講一個新增第五條之三你們提到說"},{"start":7823.157,"end":7850.932,"text":"要組成一個槍砲彈藥審認的爭議諮詢小組。但是,我們說有沒有邀集原民團體及代表啊?你們說,針對涉及原住民自製獵槍等相關爭議案件,會邀請原民會及相關專家、學者列席諮詢啊?欸,列席捏。我是說,這個都已經是相關爭議案件了捏。我們應該要出席吧?要有表決權吧?為什麼只是列席諮詢呢?"},{"start":7852.83,"end":7875.687,"text":"所以這個回覆我們有意見。來,署長,請。我跟委員報告,我們在未來定定那個稅辦法的時候,會把它列得相當清楚,包括顏名的代表,我們都把它列進來。我們可以出席嗎?對,當然可以出席。那謝謝,不要說列席諮詢。好,那所以這個地方,我是希望說,我們已經等的列強專法,"},{"start":7877.301,"end":7891.497,"text":"很感謝警政署順應民意辦了九場全國分區座談,已經重新收整意見了。那我只是希望說,這個由內政部、會協、人民會、國防部發布的部分,"},{"start":7893.171,"end":7918.929,"text":"我希望訂一個清楚的公告實施的期程好不好要不然這個新舊法又新增這個空窗漏洞很大搞不好在這個部分很多的族人又會陰暗入獄好不好好 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那就看現行法上我一個建議啦。 是不是針對這種灰色地帶的處理我們要怎麼適度的去把它公告出來。 因為現在你是在尋答的時候回答我。但我會建議說是不是這些東西其實你應該要一個把一個辦法適度的公告出來作為一種嚇阻的手段。"},{"start":10179.112,"end":10181.433,"text":"海巡單位目前怎麼處理民用船隻入侵問題?"},{"start":10203.161,"end":10203.581,"text":"二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、"},{"start":10231.653,"end":10234.055,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十。"},{"start":10247.566,"end":10251.349,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":10277.769,"end":10293.416,"text":"跟委員報告,其實馬祖地區就像委員所提到的那抽查船倉決的問題在這一兩年確實比前幾年改善了很多,為什麼?因為我們這個經過立法院立的這個專精法"},{"start":10294.957,"end":10301.202,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":10320.282,"end":10323.268,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":10332.389,"end":10337.152,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":10351.121,"end":10361.025,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":10368.67,"end":10382.684,"text":"不只是抽砂船,就是違法越境的。像今年在馬祖地區,我們現在扣押在岸的,就是留置在我們這個看守單位的,我們大概馬祖地區應該有二十幾員。"},{"start":10386.267,"end":10395.814,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":10414.121,"end":10419.522,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":10443.507,"end":10448.209,"text":"審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委"},{"start":10471.061,"end":10492.37,"text":"那最後一個問題也想要問副主委這邊啦,因為其實如果今天你要處理這個問題,說到底還是希望可以正本清源啦,所以我想要問說目前台海之間有什麼執法扣船或者是返還的規範,那目前就你們掌握啦,中國那邊對於這些非法越界的抽砂船,"},{"start":10492.85,"end":10512.65,"text":"他們的態度到底是放任不管,還是說在某一些特定的情況之下,中國自己也會抓?因為到底要怎麼去建立一個機制,讓這些抽砂船從源頭就減少越界,這其實是很重要的一件事情。是,沒錯,是,委員,我們現在其實在金馬地區,我們都有一個兩岸協同執法,"},{"start":10513.511,"end":10536.588,"text":"目前執行的狀況都非常順遂,我們在律定特定的時間,比如說黃花餘季,或者是近期有一些不安全的因素提高的時候,我們會跟對岸的執法單位共同協派兵力,他們在他們的執法水域,我們在我們的執法水域共同來執法。目前我們執行的狀況都非常順遂。"},{"start":10537.77,"end":10547.448,"text":"對於有效來防止這些不管是不法抽殺,或者是越界捕魚,或者進行其他走私偷渡行為,都有嚇阻的作用。"},{"start":10547.972,"end":10573.097,"text":"是,所以就是也回到前面啦,因為時間到了,我就回到前面也提醒一下就是副主委這邊,就是剛才講的那個書面報告啦,就是說包含我們到底要怎麼去處理民用船隻入侵的問題,還有法理上的依據是什麼,跟其他國家是怎麼處理的,還有你怎麼跟其他單位,海軍啊、國安單位協調,這部分再麻煩三週之內給我報告,謝謝副主委,謝謝主席,謝謝委員關心。"},{"start":10575.3,"end":10583.643,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":10943.83,"end":10965.141,"text":"報告委員會現在進行法案審查,請宣讀討論事項所有條文修正動議,請一併宣讀,宣讀完畢後再進行協商。現在宣讀中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案共兩案。"},{"start":10966.877,"end":10984.872,"text":"委員莊瑞雄等17人提案將第三項序文修正為供前項犯罪用之傳播或其他機械設備不問屬於犯罪行為人與否沒收之,其經判決沒收確定者得失個案情節需要拍埋或編埋或專案報准以下的方式之一處置之。"},{"start":10986.053,"end":11008.824,"text":"委員蔡易餘等16人提案。第三項序文修正為公前項犯罪用之船舶或其他機械設備不會屬於犯罪行為人與否沒收之,其經判決沒收確定,得失個案情節需要拍滿或編滿,或專案報准以相應方式之一處置之。現在宣讀槍炮彈藥刀械管制條例。"},{"start":11012.106,"end":11038.624,"text":"本月內政委員會於111年12月22日召開第10屆第6會期第25次全體委員會議審查槍炮彈牙刀械管制條例,其中委員鄭天才等21人提案、時代力量黨團提案、委員張其路等18人提案、委員陳明文等18人提案及委員陳柏惟、許志傑等18人提案等5案,以及委員鄭天才等3人、委員湯惠貞等3人所提修正動議均與宣讀完畢。"},{"start":11039.725,"end":11061.718,"text":"現在宣讀行政院行情審議委員王美惠等22人、委員游玉蘭等16人、委員陳亭飛等16人分別擬具《槍炮彈藥刀卸管制條例部分條文修正草案》案。二、委員蔡易餘等19人擬具《槍炮彈藥刀卸管制條例第7條及第22條條文修正草案》案。二、委員羅美玲等16人擬具《槍炮彈藥刀卸管制條例第4條條文修正草案》案。這條文,"},{"start":11062.779,"end":11077.899,"text":"第四條行政院提案將第三項修正為槍炮彈藥主要組成零件材質與種類及殺傷力之認定基準由中央主管機關公告之,其餘同現行條文。委員羅美玲等16人提案。"},{"start":11078.76,"end":11097.253,"text":"第一項第二款修正為,二、彈藥指前款各式槍炮所使用之炮彈、子彈、空包彈及其他具有殺傷力或破壞性之各類炸彈、爆裂物,其餘同現行條文。委員王美惠等22人提案及委員陳廷飛等16人提案,均同行政院提案。"},{"start":11098.274,"end":11113.307,"text":"委員游一蘭等16人提案第三下修正為槍炮彈藥主要組成零件材質與種類及傷傷力之認定基準,經槍炮彈藥審認徵印諮詢小組審議後由中央主管機關公告之,其與同現行條文。"},{"start":11114.465,"end":11133.568,"text":"第五至二條行政院提案將第一項第六款修正為六、持有人犯本條例之罪經有罪判決確定或犯本條例以外之罪受判處有期徒刑以上之刑確定且未經宣告緩刑或經宣告緩刑被撤銷其餘各款均著作文字修正。"},{"start":11134.389,"end":11158.117,"text":"第六項第一款第272條第三項修正為第272條,第六項第三款本條文修正前的文字修正為中華民國106年6月14日修正公佈之本條文施行前,第六項第四款增列第十三條之一、第二十條之一第三項之第五項文字刪除"},{"start":11159.589,"end":11176.934,"text":"刪除第七項其餘同線型條文。 委員陳廷飛等16人提案同行政院提案。 增訂第五條之三行政院提案第五條之三中央主管機關"},{"start":11180.391,"end":11197.32,"text":"為槍砲彈藥審認爭議的林聘派相關機關構代表及專家學者組成槍砲彈藥審認爭議諮詢小組,其組織及運作方式由中央主管機關定制。五、委員王美惠等20人提案及委員陳廷飛等16人提案均同行政院提案,委員游玉蘭等16人提案,"},{"start":11199,"end":11223.688,"text":"三、中央主管機關為槍炮彈藥審認爭議因零聘派相關機關構代表及學者、專家擔任外聘委員組成槍炮彈藥審認爭議諮詢小組,並適度徵詢民間團體或業者意見。情商爭議諮詢小組之外聘委員人數不得少於全體委員二分之一,其組織會以委員資格認其解聘事由、解聘程序及其他相關事項之準則,由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":11224.881,"end":11249.462,"text":"第七條委員蔡易餘等19人提案將第一項處無期徒刑或7年以上有期徒刑修正為處無期徒刑或10年以上有期徒刑第二項處無期徒刑或5年以上有期徒刑修正為處無期徒刑或7年以上有期徒刑第四項處5年以上有期徒刑修正為處10年以上有期徒刑其餘同現行條文"},{"start":11252.18,"end":11277.68,"text":"審定第九條之一行政院提案第九條之一持第七條第一項所列槍炮於公共場所公眾得出入之場所開槍射擊或朝公共場所公眾得出入之場所開槍射擊者處七年以上有期徒刑並科新台幣1500萬元以下罰金持第八條第一項或第九條第一項所列槍炮於公共場所公眾得出入場所"},{"start":11278.841,"end":11294.06,"text":"開槍射擊或抄公共場所公眾的出入之場所開槍射擊者處五年以上十二年以下有期徒刑並科新台幣一千萬元以下罰金犯前二項之罪情節輕微者得減輕其刑。委員王美惠等22人提案"},{"start":11294.901,"end":11313.993,"text":"第一項後段處7年以上有期徒刑修正為處10年以上有期徒刑第二項後段處5年以上12年以下有期徒刑修正為處7年以上12年以下有期徒刑其餘同行政院提案委員游玉蘭等16人提案同行政院提案委員陳廷飛等16人提案第一項第二項"},{"start":11319.761,"end":11337.097,"text":"或朝公共場所公眾得出入之場所開槍射擊者之文字修正為:「或朝公共場所公眾得出入之場所開槍射擊或開槍射擊之行為有波及公共場所公眾得出入之場所之餘者。」其餘同行政院提案。"},{"start":11338.362,"end":11363.223,"text":"第十三條行政院提案第一項前段之彈藥修正為或各類炮彈、炸彈、爆裂物其餘同現行條文委員王美惠等22人提案同行政院提案委員陳廷飛等16人提案第一項後段處3年以上10年以下有期徒刑修正為處5年以上10年以下有期徒刑其餘同行政院提案"},{"start":11364.791,"end":11384.529,"text":"審定第十三條之一,行政院提案,第十三條之一,未經許可製造販賣或運輸子彈主要組成民間者,處六個月以上、五年以下有期徒刑,並科新台幣三百萬元以下罰金。未經許可轉讓出租或出借前下民間者,處三年以下有期徒刑,並科新台幣二百萬元以下罰金。"},{"start":11385.35,"end":11405.569,"text":"意圖供自己或他人犯罪之用而犯前二項之罪者處一年以上七年以下有期徒刑並科新台幣五百萬元以下罰金。未經許可持有、寄藏或意圖販賣成立第一項所列零件者處一年以上有期徒刑並科新台幣一百萬元以下罰金,刑結七年者等免除期刑。第一項之第三項之未遂犯罰之。"},{"start":11406.73,"end":11422.259,"text":"委員陳廷飛等16人提案第一項後段處6個月以上5年以下有期徒刑修正為處1年以上5年以下有期徒刑刪除第四項後段清潔輕微者得免除其刑之文字其餘同行政院提案"},{"start":11423.359,"end":11451.369,"text":"第十八條第一項及第四項減輕或免除其刑文資修正為得減輕或免除其刑其餘同現行條文委員王美惠等二十人提案第一項及第四項減輕或免除其刑文資修正為得減輕其刑委員游玉蘭等二十人提案第四項後段修正為自白後又拒絕公訴或公訴不實者得加重其刑至二分之一其餘同行政院提案"},{"start":11453.103,"end":11481.37,"text":"委員陳廷飛等16人提案同行政院提案。第二十條之一行政院提案第一項後段增幣模擬槍及其主要組成零件之文字第二項至第四項修正為前項公告查禁之模擬槍及其主要組成零件不得製造販賣運輸轉讓出租、出借、持有、寄藏或陳列但專攻外銷研發並經警察機關許可或隱私設置使用經中央目的事業主管機關核轉中央主管機關許可"},{"start":11482.29,"end":11494.398,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。三、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。四、審查委"},{"start":11512.67,"end":11532.003,"text":"現行第五項至第七項及第九項刪除,現行第八項一列第六項並於前段增訂模擬槍及其主要組成零件之文字,現行第十項一列第七項並修正為第二項但屬有關專攻外銷研發許可之申請程序應備文件條件期限廢止,"},{"start":11532.904,"end":11561.001,"text":"定期查核及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同中央目的事業主管機關定之。三、增訂第八項文字為第二項單書有關影視設置使用許可之申請程序應備文件條件期限廢止及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央目的事業主管機關會同中央主管機關定之。其餘同現行條文委員陳廷飛等16人提案同行政院提案。增訂第二十條之二"},{"start":11562.202,"end":11589.243,"text":"行政院提案第二十條之二未經許可製造販賣或運輸前條第一項公告查禁之模擬槍主要組成零件者處新台幣一百萬元以上一千萬元以下罰還其情節重大者得必領期停止營業或勒令歇業未經許可轉讓出租、出借、持有、寄藏或意圖販賣而成立前條第一項公告查禁之模擬槍主要組成零件者處新台幣二十萬元以上五百萬元以下罰還其情節重大者得必領期停止營業或勒令歇業未經許可轉讓出租、出借、持有、寄藏或意圖販賣而成立前條第一"},{"start":11589.483,"end":11602.301,"text":"其情節重大者得併令其停止營業或勒令興業。公告查禁模擬槍支主要組成臨界不論屬於何人所有目錄之,但有前條第二項單數或同條第六項情形者不在此限。"},{"start":11603.683,"end":11631.624,"text":"委員陳廷飛等16人提案通行政院提案。 增定第20條之三。行政院提案。第20條之三,警察機關為查查槍炮彈藥公告查經之模擬槍及其主要組成靈界,得派員進入槍炮彈藥及模擬槍製造、儲存或販賣場所,就其零組件成品、半成品、各種布測及其他必要之物件實施檢查,並得詢問關係人及另提供必要之資料,前向檢查必要時得會同目的事業主管機關執行之。"},{"start":11632.965,"end":11661.254,"text":"檢查人員於執行第一項規定之檢查任務時應主動出示執行職務之證明文件並不得妨礙該場所正常業務之進行規避妨礙或拒絕第一項之檢查詢問或提供資料者處心臺幣20萬元以上50萬元以下罰款並得按次處罰及強制執行檢查第一項檢查之人員檢查處所對象檢查物品範圍實施程序及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之委員陳廷飛等16人提案同行政院提案"},{"start":11662.214,"end":11681.294,"text":"二十二條,委員蔡易餘等19人提案,增訂第三項,為鼓勵民眾檢舉違法,落實槍炮源頭管制及清理,提高第一項檢舉獎金,案件判決確定後,每案件給予檢舉人新台幣300萬元,自生效日期施行三年,其餘同現行條文。"},{"start":11682.455,"end":11709.565,"text":"第二十五條行政院提案文字修正為本條立除中華民國九十八年五月二十七日修正公佈之條文字九十八年十一月二十三日施行一百零九年六月十日修正公佈之第二十條第三項。圈年圈日圈日修正之第十三條之一及第二十條之二之施行日期由行政院命定外自公佈日施行。委員陳廷飛等16人提案同行政院提案。現在宣讀"},{"start":11712.952,"end":11740.844,"text":"委員陳婉蕙等3人所提修正動議。第四條,同委員游玉蘭等16人提案。增訂第五條之三,中央主管機關為槍炮彈藥使用爭議的林聘派相關機關構代表及專家學者組成槍炮彈藥使用爭議諮詢小組,其組織及運作方式由中央主管機關定職。下一宣布,委員鄭天才等3人所提修正動議。"},{"start":11742.742,"end":11754.512,"text":"第四條,第三項修正為《槍炮彈藥主要組成民間種類依附表規定》其餘同現行條文。第五條之二,"},{"start":11758.561,"end":11782.688,"text":"第一項第六款修正為持有人受判處有期徒刑以上之刑確定者但受緩刑之宣告緩刑期滿而未經撤銷或因過失犯罪者不在此限。現行法第七項不予刪除其餘同行政院提案。增訂第五條之三"},{"start":11786.485,"end":11808.004,"text":"文字為中央主管機關為槍炮彈藥審認爭議應設置槍炮彈藥審認爭議諮詢小組,臨聘派學者、專家、民間團體及相關機關代表之人數不得少於總數二分之一,具原住民身份代表不得少於十分之一,且任意性別人數不得少於總數三分之一,其組織及運作方式由中央主管機關定之。"},{"start":11810.168,"end":11833.476,"text":"第九條之一與第二項後段增訂《範本條例中華民國109年5月22日修正》第20條施行前原住民基於傳統文化技藝非營利自用獵捕野生動物不在此縣。其餘同行政院提案。第十三條增訂第六項"},{"start":11835.031,"end":11861.332,"text":"第一項所稱之主要組成零件不包括原住民用於自製獵槍填充物射出之黑色火藥、敵火或釘槍用邊緣敵火之空包彈。其餘同行政院提案。第十三條之一增訂第六項第一項所稱之主要組成零件不包括原住民用於自製獵槍填充物之彈丸。其餘同行政院提案。"},{"start":11863.093,"end":11888.214,"text":"二十條之三,增訂第二十條之三,第一項第二項文字為,警察機關為查查槍炮彈藥公告查禁之模擬槍及其主要組成零件,得派員進入槍炮彈藥及模擬槍製造、儲存或販賣場所,並會同目的事業主管機關就其零組件成品、半成品、各種布測及其他必要之物件實施檢查,並得詢問關閒及另提供必要之資料。"},{"start":11888.954,"end":11903.481,"text":"前項規定之檢查人員於執行檢查任務時應主動出示執行職務之證明文件並不得妨礙該場所正常業務之進行。第三項、第四項同行政院提案之第四項、第五項。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":11919.266,"end":11941.288,"text":"本次會議法案審查順序依議程排列之順序進行,為時討論聚焦。本次會議進行逐條討論時,如有行政院版本就以行政院提案版本為基準,對照各黨團或委員之修法提案來進行。每條條為如有委員提案,先分別請委員表示意見後,行政單位一併恢復。"},{"start":11945.191,"end":11966.057,"text":"現在進行協商,先審查委員莊瑞雄等兩案,中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案,因為只有修正一條條文,所以我就坐在主席台上請教各位的意見。"},{"start":11971.723,"end":11995.117,"text":"提案委員需要說明嗎?主席、還有各位委員,我是海委會副主委兼海巡署署長。我們這次所遭遇的問題就是過往我們所有的這種扣留的這些"},{"start":11996.34,"end":11999.683,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12013.254,"end":12029.324,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十一、九、十一、十二、十二、十三、十三、十四、十四、十四、十五、十五、十五、十五、十五、十一、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十"},{"start":12034.227,"end":12040.209,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":12053.815,"end":12063.681,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。"},{"start":12078.191,"end":12085.777,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12097.984,"end":12100.365,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":12114.81,"end":12120.972,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":12138.197,"end":12144.739,"text":"審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12158.291,"end":12179.542,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":12188.049,"end":12198.591,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":12213.943,"end":12216.165,"text":"本次會議審查通過之文字及相關法制用與授權主席及議事人員整理。"},{"start":12238.626,"end":12253.77,"text":"討論事項第一案:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案均與併案審查完畢,據審查報告提到院會討論,請問在場的委員需不需要經過黨團的協商?」"},{"start":12257.878,"end":12285.253,"text":"不須經黨團協商本案與院會討論時有本期作補充說明:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案的部分已經審查完畢,只跟該案有關的列席人員可以先行離席。現在我們要繼續進行協商審查第二案,槍砲彈藥刀械管制條例等11案。」"},{"start":12336.035,"end":12353.878,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":12355.558,"end":12358.86,"text":"王美惠委員、游仁昭委、陳亭飛委員、陳婉蕙委員、鄭天才委員提出修正動議。"},{"start":12373.588,"end":12387.861,"text":"中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。三、中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。四、中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。五、中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。"},{"start":12395.86,"end":12400.644,"text":"陳柏惟、游益郎委員、陳亭輝委員、陳柏惟、游益郎委員、陳亭輝委員"},{"start":12424.343,"end":12441.673,"text":"好,來,提委員。主席。是。在這裏,本市實施這個條文的修正,在這裏面就是,可以說,這順便就是,民間的材料的問題,不斷的翻新嘛。在這裏面,我認為民間的材料的規定,我認為應該要嚴格,跟你們看有什麼意見,本市也有提出。"},{"start":12453.46,"end":12474.787,"text":"審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12477.228,"end":12506.509,"text":"在這個我補充報告我們是不是建立由我們的爭議審議知行小組以後提出這個建立案然後就是他的殺傷力跟那個材質種類由這個小組來認定開會共同決議的認定以後再來公告有中央主管機會來公告是不是這樣子來進行好我們在那個小組的辦法裡面會把它明定清楚"},{"start":12511.261,"end":12532.357,"text":"其他委員有要說明的嗎?有要說明的,因為這是法律的修正,法律的提案。雖然有的委員不在場,我們應該沒有譴責說就不審。"},{"start":12535.339,"end":12536.84,"text":"第四條修正動議是最後一項。"},{"start":12552.134,"end":12578.365,"text":"最後一項裡面我特別修正為《槍炮彈藥主要組成零件總列依附表》的規定。我之所以認為應該把它定在法例裡面,因為現行的列政部和警政署所公告的《槍炮彈藥主要組成零件總列表》,"},{"start":12579.085,"end":12592.288,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":12609.332,"end":12622.147,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12628.875,"end":12634.162,"text":"審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12646.434,"end":12656.26,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":12671.809,"end":12681.877,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":12699.65,"end":12700.151,"text":"會否在第五條之三納進更多專家學者的意見?"},{"start":12716.354,"end":12727.559,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、"},{"start":12732.022,"end":12733.464,"text":"公告的頻率是如何?"},{"start":12747.665,"end":12774.1,"text":"《中央主管機關公告》公告這樣的一個基準我們上次公告是多久?那你們這個以一個穩定性來看的話也許你們會認為說因為整個時代確實會改變然後社會有一些科技啊那或者說材料各方面會有新的不同的一個進展那所以我才要請教說你前陣子的功課到現在這麼差多久?有修正過嗎?"},{"start":12778.735,"end":12804.546,"text":"公告是86年就開始公告到現在已經部分有修正過啦有修正過是說修定的情況修定哪一些你不可能變來變去啊不可能你今年這個沒有殺傷力完美你變成有殺傷力你後年修正了不可能啊一定都是要增加槍枝氾濫你增加他管治的一個強度啊"},{"start":12805.586,"end":12833.618,"text":"跟委員報告,我剛剛口誤,就是86年到現在,公告要到現在都沒有修正過了,已經有將近26年之久了,都沒有。那你們修訂的那個考量的要件是什麼?如果不是的話,是不是也,主席,我請司法院今天也有列席嗎?司法院你們的看法是怎麼樣?"},{"start":12835.929,"end":12836.189,"text":"司法院議員"},{"start":12850.103,"end":12874.68,"text":"司法院刑事廳調辦司法官朱家川發言。目前現行的槍炮條例就是用授權法規命令去定,其實都有點像在補充空白刑法的要件。另外一種立法體力委員提出的比較像是獨領危害方式條例。第二條,因為獨領的種類非常多,"},{"start":12876.261,"end":12901.432,"text":"一、二、三、四級,總共將近七百種,而且是隨時會處於變動的狀態。它是以副表一、副表二、副表三、副表四。另外,它還有明定說主管機關要會同內部部要定期去檢討、去增訂,然後報立法院來查照。所以,應該是看事務的性質。如果我們槍支的主要組成物件,它的變動頻率並沒有像毒品這麼頻繁,"},{"start":12902.432,"end":12912.756,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12925.94,"end":12939.972,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":12954.087,"end":12972.435,"text":"我們的看法是這樣子,因為你付表,這個就如同剛剛司法院的一個意見,各有缺點,但是有關於零組件的材料或者各樣的性質,其實我們科技日新業易,我哪知道明天會發展什麼一個材料出來,而可能作為"},{"start":12973.095,"end":12976.456,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":12997.142,"end":13007.584,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":13022.387,"end":13044.44,"text":"我的說法是這樣,你這個理論上通啦,可是因為你86年喔,到現在快30年,你這個公告你也沒有去修訂啦,也就是說,我如果想說一個法律用二、三十年,我都是這樣整個給它頂頂的,符合法的明確性,你跟人家的講法是說,有可能兩年三年,我明明什麼材質出來,我以前拍完戲,我把槍管打成水管,"},{"start":13047.708,"end":13052.009,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":13076.583,"end":13078.065,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":13091.502,"end":13094.463,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":13119.286,"end":13145.573,"text":"所以顯然你們現在認為這個公告令有修訂的必要嗎?請問可不可以告訴我們就是為什麼你現在突然間認為有改的必要?幾十年都沒改那你現在準備要怎麼改?要加什麼?然後你為什麼認為說這個不管是殺傷力的任命基準或是材質那你是為了要把它放寬?還是要把它加嚴?還是怎麼樣?因為過去種類其實你訂了這個種類之後"},{"start":13147.774,"end":13153.657,"text":"中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。三、中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。四、"},{"start":13164.283,"end":13183.181,"text":"你們應該把你們為什麼要提案這一個這樣子訂的理由說出來給我們知道不然的話就會回到剛才我們一直在講的如果你一直回到只有種類然後你要幾十年沒改那好像訂成副表也很合理啊所以你們要把你們的條文的意思把它說清楚"},{"start":13185.544,"end":13213.077,"text":"跟委員報告這次會把他納入材質就是要界定他的這個槍械主要組成零件的硬度硬度的話達到什麼硬度他用火藥式的那個敵火開槍的話對他的承受度的一個問題那第二個就是殺傷力我們要把它明確化現在殺傷力的一個法律就是81年司法院秘書長的一個函式"},{"start":13214.117,"end":13227.843,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":13241.65,"end":13247.195,"text":"現在還是打豬皮是不是?對,現在是打豬皮,二是嬌兒啦,可以穿拓啦。"},{"star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有《跟蹤、騷擾、防治》很多這裡面都會提到原住民的代表"},{"start":14784.628,"end":14812.474,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":14814.932,"end":14816.414,"text":"本條例以慰之罪。"},{"start":14821.311,"end":14848.948,"text":"因為這個自制列槍過去很嚴格洗得丁不行啊現在洗得丁可以了那我們要申請的啊因為以前被判了緩刑了不行然後我們現在是109年修正了那未來你們公告了組成零件啊那之前被判緩刑的也不能申請自制列槍啊那或是森林法不是你們寫本條理以外之罪"},{"start":14850.984,"end":14852.744,"text":"本條例以外之罪本條例以外之罪本條例以外之罪本條例以外之罪本條例以外之罪本條例以外之罪"},{"start":14878.786,"end":14883.429,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":14904.141,"end":14906.162,"text":"本條例被緩刑先告。"},{"start":14928.427,"end":14932.697,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":14941.542,"end":14965.279,"text":"審查委員,您是不是來解釋一下原住民犯前項規定以外之罪,你還要經直轄市縣市主管機關依第一項第六款規定撤銷或廢止其自治列交或宇江之許可?這好像更嚴格的感覺。我們本來是已經進到第五條。不好意思,現在又回到第五條。抱歉抱歉。你那是第六款的部分嗎?是不是?"},{"start":14969.059,"end":14996.767,"text":"你是不是請警政署解釋一下,署長,還是司法單位,我們司法院。原來以前我們之前它的是第六款是持有人受判處有其圖形以上之刑確定者,那現在我們有把它放寬到經緩刑宣告未被撤銷,所以其實我們是有放寬,那至於換本條例"},{"start":14998.127,"end":15026.134,"text":"以外最最主要是要放寬讓大家都能夠一體適用其實原住民也在這裡面有價算可以現在就是說我剛講的我剛講的你要按你要就我說的來說來重點第一個一開始你們的管理辦法說洗得丁不行對不對最高法院判決說這樣的規定是"},{"start":15028.285,"end":15036.425,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":15037.779,"end":15054.669,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":15064.995,"end":15080.329,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":15090.998,"end":15110.086,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":15122.854,"end":15126.255,"text":"第一項第六款,它不是只針對原住民,它是針對全部的人。"},{"start":15153.763,"end":15179.954,"text":"因為他的立法政策立法意旨看起來就是考量說槍彈的危害性很大所以要使用的人一定要比較謹慎小心高度守法意識這樣的人來使用所以如果你看我們原先現行的是只要是判處有期徒刑以上之刑確定就一律撤銷就不能再繼續持有使用槍炮那針對原住民的部分現行條文在第六項"},{"start":15181.034,"end":15197.279,"text":"第六項其實已經有放寬了,第六項是現已故意犯,所以一般人不管故意過失,只要犯罪被判有期徒刑確定,就不能再拿槍,可是原住民是過失犯已經放寬了就可以。再來的話,現已犯重罪,"},{"start":15198.359,"end":15222.399,"text":"如果不是法定期三年以上的,也一樣,只有限定在犯重罪以及第六項各款所列這些比較特殊的罪名之外,除了這些狀況之外的話,原則上都還是讓原罪名可以繼續使用持有槍職。上次討論有提到要再放寬,其實違反槍炮在現行的第六項的第四款本來就有了,"},{"start":15222.879,"end":15227.583,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":15242.657,"end":15258.47,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":15269.019,"end":15275.725,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":15295.843,"end":15314.074,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":15326.144,"end":15334.751,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、"},{"start":15336.707,"end":15362.857,"text":"我們都充分尊重我們整個原住民的朋友其實你看我一直都不講話我也因為在我自己的選區裡面其實也很多原住民的朋友那其實我們在修這個法令的時候我們充分的尊重可是我們其實也有感受到壓力的是說原住民原鄉裡面其實本來就是有漢人有原住民其他都住在一起的"},{"start":15363.857,"end":15368.982,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":15388.12,"end":15412.066,"text":"最高法院的判決也說這樣的辦法是不能用許得丁是錯的但是我們之前有很多的法官第一、第二法院、二審就判我們就沒有上訴了就判緩刑你要聽你要聽清楚就判緩刑所以後來法規辦法修了許得丁可以了"},{"start":15413.783,"end":15440.098,"text":"但是那些被緩刑的人,到現在為止,按照現在的條文,還是不能申請自製獵槍。這是第一個。第二個,109年修正了,行政院、內政部、警政署聽到了原住民的聲音,立法院聽到了原住民的聲音,修了,109年修了,要更強化。"},{"start":15441.809,"end":15469.498,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":15474.314,"end":15499.064,"text":"違憲違憲喔!憲法法庭說違憲那現在呢?之前因為違憲然後被判緩刑的人還是不行?按照現在的規定是這樣啊?這當然不對啊!憲法法庭都說這個辦法是違憲的當初被判的人你要不要重新判決?不能重新判決"},{"start":15500.472,"end":15520.34,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。三、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。四、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":15523.41,"end":15537.634,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。三、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。四、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":15551.144,"end":15556.207,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「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、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":17783.263,"end":17788.228,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":17794.518,"end":17797.679,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":17822.738,"end":17829.023,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":17841.381,"end":17846.062,"text":"二十條之一,第五十七頁,有張祺祿委員、陳明文委員、陳柏惟委員、陳廷飛委員的提案,還有《時代力量》也有提的版本,還有院版。"},{"start":17876.766,"end":17880.055,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十。"},{"start":17881.38,"end":17902.853,"text":"好,第二十條之一照院版通過。然後再來的話就是增訂第二十條之二是在第七十三頁有陳婷菲委員的版本還有院版。好,第二十條之二如果沒有問題我們就照院版。二十條之二確認一下。有問題嗎?二十條之二有問題嗎?嗯。等一下看一下。"},{"start":17912.352,"end":17920.158,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":17932.395,"end":17932.955,"text":"七十三頁有問題。"},{"start":17945.148,"end":17947.71,"text":"二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、二、"},{"start":17970.809,"end":17974.173,"text":"禁止製造、販賣或運輸模擬槍主要組成零件。"},{"start":17989.09,"end":18008.382,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":18019.309,"end":18023.997,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":18037.947,"end":18045.41,"text":"二十條之二修正通過,七十四頁增訂二十條之三有陳廷飛委員的版本,也有願版。"},{"start":18061.314,"end":18071.467,"text":"二十條之三,正天才委員也有修正動議。"},{"start":18079.454,"end":18096.265,"text":"第二委員委要說明的嗎?還是這一個要照院版?二、二十條之三。"},{"start":18103.428,"end":18110.913,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":18121.921,"end":18132.051,"text":"人力問題,經濟部派遣人力問題,給警察機關有彈性一點,這是可以有效的遏阻。"},{"start":18148.505,"end":18163.358,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":18176.315,"end":18176.515,"text":"主管機關主管機關"},{"start":18190.43,"end":18208.754,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":18219.454,"end":18219.994,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、"},{"start":18238.204,"end":18265.322,"text":"因為這個部分之前在行政院的院會那個都有討論過了那就是說基於就是說因為這個查核的部分主要可能還是涉及到那個那個所謂的模擬槍他比較認定上的一個部分那可能還是要回歸到那個警政署這邊來去做查核會比較適合所以這個部分原則上是在行政院會裡面討論的一個結果這樣"},{"start":18271.989,"end":18281.781,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":18284.605,"end":18298.894,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、七、八、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、"},{"start":18302.256,"end":18314.322,"text":"二十五條,七十八頁有廷輝委員的提案,也有院版,我們就照院版通過。第三條,暫時保留的提案,第四條。"},{"start":18326.723,"end":18334.246,"text":"第四條的部分,好,我們回到第四條,來,來,這個部分,第四條,"},{"start":18358.087,"end":18359.839,"text":"暫時保留,回到第四條。"},{"start":18364.352,"end":18382.941,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委"},{"start":18391.926,"end":18408.479,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、"},{"start":18413.342,"end":18437.557,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":18442.332,"end":18453.163,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十一、九、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二、十二"},{"start":18466.917,"end":18487.651,"text":"二條之二,就把立法理由裡面把它說明了。好,第五條之二,我們來看一下第一項第六款,持有人犯本條例之罪經有罪判決定。這個是在立法說明的時候,只是在修立法說明是不是?"},{"start":18489.008,"end":18514.677,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。"},{"start":18517.748,"end":18532.144,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、"},{"start":18534.72,"end":18556.778,"text":"二十條之二除了這個第一項跟第二項我們有增加文字那個圓圓就補上去了那再來就是它的立法說明的第四項基於對原住民族傳統文化之尊重原住民自製獵槍時使用之主要組成零件不適用本條規定這沒問題吧"},{"start":18560.121,"end":18564.888,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":18580.62,"end":18597.264,"text":"第二十條之二,我們第一項跟第二項有增加那個文字,就是儲新台幣100萬元以上、1000萬元以下罰款增加的那個元。第二項也是儲新台幣20萬元以上、500萬元以下增加這個元。"},{"start":18598.064,"end":18607.269,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":18627.875,"end":18655.877,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、九、十、十一、十三、十一、十二、十三、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十一、十三、十三、十一、十三、十三、十一、十三、十三、十一、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十三、十"},{"start":18665.101,"end":18677.45,"text":"第四新增的部分是基於對原住民主傳統之文化尊重,原住民自製獵槍時使用之主要組成零件,不適用本條規定。"},{"start":18695.736,"end":18697.937,"text":"二十條之二,我們就修正通過。"},{"start":18709.553,"end":18734.968,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十一、九、十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第九十一、第幾頁、第九十一、第九十一、第九十一、第九十一、第九十一、第九十一、第九十一、第九十一、第九十"},{"start":18738.08,"end":18761.085,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、"},{"start":18764.685,"end":18792.499,"text":"針對第一項第六款,我們是來修它的立法說明,在第一項第六款緩刑的部分它的這個立法說明,兩位委員看一下可以嗎?"},{"start":18794.045,"end":18813.51,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、一、九、十、"},{"start":18816.664,"end":18826.397,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、"},{"start":18833.359,"end":18850.425,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、"},{"start":18856.249,"end":18883.384,"text":"三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、"},{"start":18886.192,"end":18903.183,"text":"第五條之二,第五條之二的第六項,就是未成年人之繼承及使用之相關規定。管理事宜,我們行政單位是建議把管理事宜這四個字拿掉。"},{"start":18908.153,"end":18916.934,"text":"未成年人之繼承及使用之相關規定,另由中央目的事業主管機關訂定之。第九條"},{"start":18940.632,"end":18950.074,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":18964.687,"end":18972.29,"text":"未成年人之繼承及使用之相關規定,列由中央目的事業主管機關訂定之。"},{"start":18995.02,"end":19018.501,"text":"列由原住民組委員會：立法院第十八條條文修正草案案。二、列由原住民組委員會：立法院第十八條條文修正草案案。二、列由原住民組委員會：立法院第十八條條文修正草案案。二、列由原住民組委員會：立法院第十八條條文修正草案案。二、列由原住民組委員會：立法院第十八條條文修正草案案。二、列由原住民組委員會：立法院第十八條條文修正草案案。二、列由原住民組委員會：立法院第十八條條文修正草案案。二、列由原住民組委"},{"start":19020.444,"end":19026.966,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":19048.826,"end":19073.013,"text":"一、第九條之一就是把經許可這三個字拿掉。就是立法說明三的部分。立法說明三的部分就是一、二、三、四、五、六、七、第九條之一。立法說明三經許可這三個字拿掉。"},{"start":19074.053,"end":19100.849,"text":"金許可持有自製獵槍或漁槍者,現在把金許可拿掉,這樣沒問題,好,如果沒有問題的話,是有另外,是從這邊看還是從另外一條裡面印的看,不是啊,立法說,這裡這裡,已經有修正文字,對啊,對啊,剛剛一直說有爭議嘛,對啊,拿掉啊,"},{"start":19104.69,"end":19109.292,"text":"二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十。"},{"start":19151.312,"end":19159.498,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易"},{"start":19161.943,"end":19182.697,"text":"審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委員莊瑞雄等17人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、審查委"},{"start":19192.441,"end":19212.733,"text":"你把經許可改成遠送許可。你不要幫他們解釋,你講的他們不信任,你要經過我。我現在像那個靈媒一樣要溝通,他們兩個經過我解釋,他們兩個就通了。"},{"start":19218.657,"end":19243.715,"text":"剛剛你那個天才還有我們,你們剛提到那個部分,其實我在,我們都是同事,我再來講一次,行政院的版本根本就沒問題,是真的是你們誤解啦,天才,可是法官有時候,不是不是,因為鄭文財我看他心情不太好,所以他講話都錯你知道嗎,你那個立法理由,天才你再看一下,你那個那個那個42頁那個地方,"},{"start":19245.976,"end":19270.942,"text":"按第二條規範意旨依法使用槍砲人員非本條例規範對象,故依法令配用槍砲之軍警、海巡、特勤等人員,於依法令執行職務範疇內之涉及行為及,經許可持有自制列槍或魚槍者,與其援受許可範圍之狩獵捕魚。"},{"start":19274.236,"end":19279.481,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案案。二、"},{"start":19293.587,"end":19295.968,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":19321.069,"end":19327.554,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案。二、審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條文修正草案。二、"},{"start":19345.199,"end":19370.725,"text":"審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具:「中華民國專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層法第十八條條文修正草案。二、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