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雇用他們四千五可是他要他們就是有非常完整的一個SOP的一個勞工的一個安全"},{"start":246.095,"end":264.92,"text":"所以我覺得你如果這樣子跟我回答的話部長我會覺得你沒有抓到問題的一個重點那我們再來繼續再看下去就是說這個垃圾車在輕盈的路線裡頭有沒有辦法追蹤這個是在上一屆的時候我持續一直在追蹤這個議題"},{"start":266.34,"end":286.578,"text":"⋯⋯⋯⋯"},{"start":286.638,"end":304.911,"text":"部長,揮霍給我,沒有問題。揮霍把這個資料給我。那現在AI的一個發展在我們臺灣有一個非常好的建制的一個制度有沒有辦法就是在我們所有的垃圾車你甚至就是說在垃圾車清印的一個路線裡頭我覺得"},{"start":306.852,"end":309.394,"text":"再來在這裡跟部長再做一個這個探討就是說"},{"start":323.285,"end":346.596,"text":"⋯⋯⋯⋯"},{"start":346.916,"end":360.441,"text":"這個不是只有台南有這些問題如果你到了很多的一個縣市很多的一個工業區裡頭你去看到了每一個場每一個場進去的時候都是暫存的一個垃圾在那個地方"},{"start":361.613,"end":383.144,"text":"所以部長我跟你講你這麼優雅你這麼注重你自己本身那你要去這麼多地方都是這麼多本首的地方所以你要知道這本首有多少所以就是說回收的再利用我們知道回收再利用的價格其實是影響民眾的一個回收的一個應用那我想你拿回去檢討"},{"start":384.104,"end":414.104,"text":"⋯⋯⋯"},{"start":414.548,"end":415.648,"text":"部長我在這裏請問你"},{"start":443.918,"end":468.397,"text":"全國有幾座文化爐?像我們台南,我們台南就有兩座那有多少座?24加5,5是在興建不錯,就是這個後建的5座還是在進行中所以你如何就是說有一個比較好的一個法來管理這個文化爐這個是本席對你的一個期待請你會後把資料給我"},{"start":468.677,"end":476.331,"text":"我們會裝SAMS在每一個焚化爐,未來會這樣處理。你要執行,以前的部長也是這樣講,可是困難在哪裡?"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}