{"error":false,"id":["154181"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":154181,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154181","日期":"2024-06-25","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"院會-11-1-19","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第1會期第19次會議","屆":11,"會期":1,"會次":19,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"院會","標題":"立法院第11屆第1會期第19次會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2024-06-25T15:02:57+08:00","結束時間":"2024-06-25T15:19:00+08:00","影片長度":"00:16:03","支援功能":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/63224dc0dd2f91fbd52f49e26ee5ca264c867c7a3ae89c54160a2b78e90c253b87e74d03d353af155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"謝龍介","委員發言時間":"15:02:57 - 15:19:00","會議時間":"2024-06-25T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"第11屆第1會期第19次會議（事由：一、覆議案之處理事項。（6月21日）\n二、對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢。（6月25日）\n三、6月21日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。 \n四、6月25日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。）","gazette":{"lineno":78,"blocks":[["謝委員龍介：（15時3分）院長，我請卓院長。"],["主席：麻煩請卓院長備詢。"],["謝委員龍介：卓院長好，辛苦了。"],["卓院長榮泰：委員好，不會，應該的。"],["謝委員龍介：你一生忠正，我觀察你是謹言慎行，我個人很欣賞也很欽佩。"],["卓院長榮泰：不敢，不敢。"],["謝委員龍介：所以你知道我們說的河洛話，我說漢文臺語也好，河洛話也好，臺灣話也好，是真真正正的中原文化，你有理解嗎？當初從隋朝開始，有一本書叫做切韻；一直到唐朝這本書教你發音叫做唐韻；到宋朝叫做廣韻；到清朝叫做康熙字典；到清末1800年左右，南安人黃謙出一本彙音妙悟；一直到1954年，臺灣人梅山沈富進先生出一本彙音寶鑑，所以臺灣話是句句有音有字，我不知道你有沒有理解？"],["卓院長榮泰：很敬佩委員對臺語文化這樣……"],["謝委員龍介：不用敬佩。"],["卓院長榮泰：自古早開始講起……"],["謝委員龍介：你要和我一起努力，我看你們也沒有在努力啊！讓這群愛臺灣的人、過去支持你的人很感慨，怎麼現在變成國民黨的謝龍介在推展漢文臺語？","你們說愛臺灣，說到都忘記，現在都只是愛臺幣而已，我覺得很不好意思，我認為政治人物不是每個都這樣的，雖有少數害群之馬，但多數人還是愛這塊土地。我今天送你這本書是相當有意義的──彙音寶鑑，所有你看得到的漢字都有對應的臺語發音，像是在查國語字典一樣，你如果會查國語字典就會用，我這裡有一個USB，你回去聽一次，下次你來到這裡就可以對答如流。","孔子有言：君子恥其言而過其行。就是說「講一畚箕，做無一湯匙」丟人現眼！孔子也有說：古者言之不出，恥躬之不逮也。就是不隨便做承諾，因為怕做不到，這是很漏氣、很丟臉的事情。"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["謝委員龍介：我看你跟很多委員的應答，包括國民住宅、社會住宅，你不會設定一個高標的數字，這樣很好，你不要被賴清德帶壞……"],["卓院長榮泰：不會啦！"],["謝委員龍介：我等下給你看，他都亂說……"],["卓院長榮泰：不會啦！"],["謝委員龍介：什麼不會？他在選舉時都亂講，說520要蓋20萬戶，你看連蔡總統那邊都算進去，事實上就是沒有，沒有就換了一個「漏氣」回來啊！但是你的態度不錯，包括我們的前副院長詢問你，包括在羅廷瑋和其他委員質詢問你的時候。我跟你說，做得到比較重要，務實做事情，不要用數字包裝，所以你不要被賴清德帶壞……"],["卓院長榮泰：不會啦！不會啦！"],["謝委員龍介：真的不會嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：不會啦！"],["謝委員龍介：不會嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：不會。"],["謝委員龍介：確定嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：他對國家的方向是很正確的，這個國家會往好的方向走，這樣就是了。"],["謝委員龍介：「細漢偷挽匏，大漢偷牽牛」你知道嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：不會啦！不會「偷挽匏」啦……"],["謝委員龍介：怎麼沒有？來，我們來看一下！","（播放影片）"],["謝委員龍介：怎麼會沒有聲音？再重放一遍。","（播放影片）"],["謝委員龍介：再放一遍給你聽，你要認真聽喔！前面你沒聽到，你注意聽。","（播放影片）"],["謝委員龍介：你有聽到嗎？他說：有本事你先辭職。我說：我辭職你就辭職嗎？他說：對，有本事你先辭職。他以為我不敢辭職，我就辭職了。"],["卓院長榮泰：剛才他是說，要辭職你先辭職啦！"],["謝委員龍介：他說：對，有本事你先辭職。"],["卓院長榮泰：是要辭職你先辭職……"],["謝委員龍介：對啊！他說：有本事你先辭職。我說，我辭職你就辭職嗎？他說：對，有本事你先辭職。「對」是要兩支都一樣的，我跟你講，他當時……","所以政治，當然我為此付出代價，我整個服務處的人要繼續運作，鄉親怪我說：我們和你的契約是4年耶！你怎麼可以辭職？對此我付出了代價，所以我要跟你說，說話要慎重，像他說的話風一吹就被吹走了；說到山盟海誓了，結果一逼他，他就躲起來，說昨晚不好意思了。我給你看一下他自己說過的話，但現在不到一個月的時間，這個事情就被整個翻轉過來了，來，請看一下。","（播放影片）"],["謝委員龍介：你看……"],["卓院長榮泰：他的態度並無改變。"],["謝委員龍介：他說得十分有氣魄，對啊！態度不錯啊！結果現在立法院才通過而已，他就縮回去了，跑去藏龍……"],["卓院長榮泰：報告委員，總統的態度並沒有改變，只要立法院開會的時候邀請他來做國情報告，他就會來。"],["謝委員龍介：我跟你說，你不要被他帶壞了，枉費我對你很欣賞，而且我比你還瞭解他啦！不要被他牽著走啦！如果你這樣被牽著走，很快你就會被換掉了，我告訴你，他想要把你拿來「替硬軟、撐到明年過年」，這個我實在看不下去，我實在不能接受……"],["卓院長榮泰：不會啦！不會啦！委員過去可能對總統……"],["謝委員龍介：你要堅持做你自己，到時候若他要辭掉你，我會挺你的，不用信他！哪有人這樣的，是他說話不算話，你是說話算話，你是君子，我並沒有說他是小人，我是說看他並不像君子，這樣聽得懂嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：他是總統啦！"],["謝委員龍介：什麼總統！大家都可以選總統啦！"],["卓院長榮泰：是！是！是！"],["謝委員龍介：總統沒有那麼厲害，但是在這裡我也說了，對國家的元首應該給他適當的禮遇，對不對？所以不一定是一問一答，但要有一個態度出來，結果時間未到他就害怕縮回了，這就是騙票嘛！說什麼他願意來立法院接受國情報告，接受立委的詢答，這是他自己說的喔！現在是怎樣？因為票騙得不夠漂亮，所以現在翻臉了嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：就當時立法院職權行使法所定的內容來說，他來國會做報告就是照那個方式，但是現在改變之後，大家要重新思考那個方式對總統是否適當……"],["謝委員龍介：這是在國會改革法案還沒有通過前他就說了，而且是公開說的……"],["卓院長榮泰：因為我們都有看到修法的內容……"],["謝委員龍介：所以他對憲法的認知是一日三市，昨天說這樣，今天說那樣，明天說這樣，不能這樣啦！……"],["卓院長榮泰：並不是如此！"],["謝委員龍介：我跟你說，你沒有比我更瞭解他……"],["卓院長榮泰：過去可能你比較瞭解他，但是這件事情……"],["謝委員龍介：你不用在這裡挺他，這沒必要，他的事情他要自己擔，各人造業各人擔……"],["卓院長榮泰：我們挺的是憲法的精神。"],["謝委員龍介：他這樣很好啊！跳下來第一線，我欣賞他！我給他按個讚！跳下來第一線，好啊！第一線來正面面對，民意對決，都沒問題，大家都會選舉，但不要用騙的方式，要務實，結果他現在一下子就縮回去，別忘了我在臺南市被他弄到，234天沒進來議會，這叫憲法嗎？這沒違憲嗎？市長不用進來給議員質詢，這樣沒違憲？這種違憲的事他做得可多了……"],["卓院長榮泰：那有歷史的原因……"],["謝委員龍介：不要再說歷史的原因了……"],["卓院長榮泰：這件事到現在也有很多人覺得那是正確的……"],["謝委員龍介：我是當事人，還有什麼歷史的原因？我當時就指責他了，你不讓誰質詢是你的事情，但我是臺南市民選出來的，你也是臺南市民選出來的，你怎麼可以不給我質詢？他也會不好意思……"],["卓院長榮泰：但是他並沒有耽誤市政的建設，市長該做的事情他做得很認真……"],["謝委員龍介：好，你說他沒耽誤市政的建設，我就講給你聽，我在第三年的時候問他：市長，做三年多了，你舉出到今天為止你有做的任何一件臺南市的建設，一件就好，如果有，我謝龍介當場就辭職，結果你們賴總統不回應……"],["卓院長榮泰：不好意思說吧！"],["謝委員龍介：好，經過5個月他被民進黨提名，在提名之後，你知道他對臺南市鄉親的第一句文宣說什麼？請你注意聽。各位臺南市民朋友，我是賴清德。過去四年我都在規劃未來四年我們臺南市的大進步。請問有哪個城市可以忍受一個市長四年任期都在做規劃？所以我問他：你做了哪一件建設？他不好意思回答。坦白說，是回答不出來！所以我才說你不要被他帶壞。我再放另一支影片讓你看，也請注意聽。","（播放影片）"],["謝委員龍介：態度出來！"],["卓院長榮泰：氣魄不錯！"],["謝委員龍介：哎喲，用氣魄包裝黑金？你夠厲害，你還替他說話？"],["卓院長榮泰：這是反黑金……"],["謝委員龍介：對，反黑金，但之後一件案子都沒查，所以責任在你肩上！"],["卓院長榮泰：司法機關在查。"],["謝委員龍介：責任在你肩上！"],["卓院長榮泰：好。"],["謝委員龍介：我信賴你，我不是那個「信賴」，我是信賴卓榮泰！如果不查黑金的話就是假的！即使你不查，那些東西我一樣可以拿出來講，不騙你！","今天有條新聞說中國大陸派人來監視我們的媒體。院長，明知道他們在監視我們的媒體，在操縱我們，你是不好意思抓，故意放他走嗎？有這種事嗎？媒體可以這樣報嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：當然不可以啊！如果有這個事實的話……"],["謝委員龍介：如果有的話，為什麼放他走？"],["卓院長榮泰：對於所發生的事情是不是大家都知道，請陸委會……"],["謝委員龍介：大家都知道。我告訴你，如果真的有這件事，就正好和貴黨一樣。貴黨也利用很多媒體，甚至還有中央廚房，每天都在討論什麼？今天講韓國瑜，明天討論謝龍介；啊！徐巧芯冒出頭了，把他打死。每一臺都講同樣的！如果你說他們是這樣就對了……"],["卓院長榮泰：並沒有中央廚房！"],["謝委員龍介：你如果知道是這樣……"],["卓院長榮泰：沒有中央廚房！"],["謝委員龍介：沒有？你回去查，我提供一個共同群組給你。我跟你說有，但是你說沒有？我不會說謊……"],["卓院長榮泰：群組是在交換……"],["謝委員龍介：孔子說，君子恥其言而過其行。我這個人可以選擇不講，但我絕不說謊！你要的資料我可以給你。"],["卓院長榮泰：好。"],["謝委員龍介：為什麼你們要放他走？"],["邱主任委員垂正：報告委員，他是因為輪調回去了。"],["謝委員龍介：人都輪調回去了，所以話就隨便你們說了？到底有沒有這種事？"],["邱主任委員垂正：我們現在會跟文化部、主管機關一起做行政調查。"],["謝委員龍介：都還沒調查就可以寫成這樣？硬是要把白布染黑嗎？還是真的要處理？"],["邱主任委員垂正：我們會依法處理。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝謝龍介委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長的備詢。","報告院會，現在在議場二樓旁聽的是臺灣世代教育基金會的所有好朋友，歡迎你們。","報告院會，現在內政組的質詢已經詢答完畢，我們現在開始換組，換外交及國防組之質詢。現在我們休息10分鐘；10分鐘之後，我們開始進行國防外交的詢答，謝謝大家，謝謝。","休息（15時19分）","繼續開會（15時29分）"]],"agenda":{"page_end":90,"meet_id":"院會-11-1-19","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣","黃健豪","黃仁","盧縣一","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","陳素月","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","林國成","陳瑩","黃珊珊","張智倫","蔡其昌","羅廷瑋","謝龍介","賴士葆","林俊憲","林宜瑾","王定宇","陳永康"],"page_start":17,"meetingDate":["2024-06-25"],"gazette_id":"1136301","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1136301_00003","1136301_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第1會期第19次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢─ 繼續質詢─","agenda_id":"1136301_00004"}},"transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":25.20846875,"end":27.08159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":27.621593750000002,"end":29.680343750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":30.32159375,"end":30.473468750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":38.64096875,"end":41.307218750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":38.96159375,"end":40.024718750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":40.19346875,"end":41.77971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":43.12971875,"end":44.85096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":45.525968750000004,"end":46.673468750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":47.24721875,"end":48.49596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":49.47471875,"end":51.094718750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":51.617843750000006,"end":52.51221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":52.83284375,"end":53.38971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":53.99721875,"end":55.68471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":56.781593750000006,"end":57.99659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":59.329718750000005,"end":62.75534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":63.39659375,"end":64.37534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":65.37096875,"end":68.83034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":71.22659375,"end":73.85909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":74.56784375000001,"end":76.35659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":77.90909375000001,"end":79.69784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":80.25471875000001,"end":82.73534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":84.03471875000001,"end":85.41846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":85.78971875,"end":86.83596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":88.00034375,"end":90.26159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":91.74659375,"end":92.92784375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":92.97846875,"end":94.81784375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":95.17221875,"end":96.89346875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":97.48409375,"end":99.67784375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":100.77471875,"end":102.47909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":103.06971875,"end":103.98096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":104.67284375000001,"end":106.44471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":107.30534375,"end":109.12784375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":110.41034375000001,"end":111.60846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":112.38471875,"end":114.34221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":114.96659375,"end":116.11409375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":117.64971875,"end":121.63221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":121.63221875,"end":121.64909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":121.64909375,"end":123.42096875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":121.66596875,"end":121.75034375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":122.89784375,"end":126.20534375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":124.93971875000001,"end":125.12534375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":126.77909375,"end":134.10284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":127.20096875,"end":128.11221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":128.16284375,"end":128.21346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":135.55409375000002,"end":140.00909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":140.53221875,"end":142.81034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":143.68784375,"end":144.83534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":145.56096875,"end":148.10909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":149.13846875000002,"end":150.53909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":151.01159375,"end":152.12534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":152.93534375000002,"end":153.74534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":154.50471875000002,"end":157.59284375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":158.84159375000002,"end":160.76534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":161.52471875,"end":163.39784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":163.92096875000001,"end":164.93346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":165.43971875,"end":166.60409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":166.72221875000002,"end":167.80221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":169.21971875,"end":171.66659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":196.21971875,"end":197.82284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":199.40909375,"end":201.73784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":203.88096875000002,"end":204.74159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":205.95659375000002,"end":206.86784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":207.17159375,"end":208.25159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":209.14596875,"end":209.93909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":211.49159375000002,"end":212.68971875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":213.68534375000002,"end":215.13659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":215.60909375,"end":216.90846875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":217.56659375,"end":218.91659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":219.87846875000002,"end":220.21596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":220.65471875,"end":223.67534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":221.51534375000003,"end":221.58284375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":223.89471875,"end":224.19846875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":224.85659375,"end":230.52659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":225.02534375000002,"end":225.80159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":231.62346875,"end":234.28971875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":235.67346875,"end":240.55034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":237.56346875000003,"end":237.61409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":240.83721875,"end":242.27159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":242.77784375000002,"end":250.89471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":251.24909375000001,"end":253.66221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":253.94909375,"end":256.05846875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":256.46346875,"end":256.93596875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":257.83034375,"end":262.47096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":263.14596875,"end":264.98534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":265.30596875000003,"end":266.60534375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":267.28034375000004,"end":271.43159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":270.73971875,"end":271.70159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":272.12346875000003,"end":272.78159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":272.78159375,"end":273.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":273.96284375,"end":274.06409375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":274.06409375000004,"end":274.08096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":274.08096875,"end":274.30034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":274.30034375,"end":274.36784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":274.36784375,"end":275.16096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":275.46471875000003,"end":275.49846875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":275.49846875000003,"end":276.13971875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":276.32534375,"end":276.96659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":277.25346875,"end":279.49784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":279.86909375,"end":284.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":280.00409375000004,"end":280.40909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":280.40909375,"end":280.44284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":284.03721875,"end":284.98221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":285.21846875,"end":285.25221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":285.25221875,"end":287.93534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":288.17159375,"end":289.99409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":288.74534375,"end":290.65221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":297.79034375000003,"end":299.15721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":300.70971875000004,"end":304.13534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":304.74284375,"end":304.77659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":304.82721875000004,"end":309.78846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":306.68346875000003,"end":313.41659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":315.15471875000003,"end":316.60596875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":317.01096875,"end":319.55909375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":319.74471875,"end":325.27971875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":325.56659375000004,"end":333.54846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":330.76409375000003,"end":330.81471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":330.81471875,"end":331.57409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":331.57409375000003,"end":331.60784375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":333.61596875000004,"end":337.53096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":337.53096875,"end":337.56471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":338.40846875,"end":338.44221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":338.44221875,"end":339.50534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":339.67409375,"end":345.02346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":345.02346875,"end":345.10784375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":345.68159375000005,"end":345.96846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":345.96846875,"end":354.32159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":356.07659375000003,"end":357.61221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":357.89909375,"end":366.20159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":366.47159375,"end":372.64784375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":374.90909375,"end":380.27534375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":381.10221875,"end":382.33409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":383.46471875000003,"end":384.94971875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":384.94971875000005,"end":385.03409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":385.03409375,"end":385.92846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":385.92846875000004,"end":386.16471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":386.43471875,"end":386.50221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":386.50221875,"end":387.97034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":387.97034375000004,"end":388.03784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":388.03784375000004,"end":388.96596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":388.96596875,"end":389.03346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":389.03346875,"end":391.96971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":389.74221875,"end":390.45096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":392.98221875,"end":394.31534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":394.41659375,"end":395.22659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":395.59784375000004,"end":396.77909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":397.82534375,"end":399.34409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":400.03596875000005,"end":400.27221875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":401.35221875,"end":401.85846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":402.97221875,"end":405.50346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":406.14471875000004,"end":406.65096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":406.93784375,"end":408.49034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":409.68846875,"end":415.17284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":416.35409375,"end":416.62409375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":417.36659375000005,"end":419.34096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":420.79221875,"end":421.82159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":422.24346875000003,"end":422.51346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":423.44159375000004,"end":424.25159375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":425.39909375,"end":425.98971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":426.41159375,"end":427.27221875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":428.75721875000005,"end":429.98909375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":430.91721875,"end":432.94221875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":432.97596875000005,"end":433.93784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":434.14034375000006,"end":435.06846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":436.53659375,"end":437.53221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":438.46034375000005,"end":441.41346875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":441.93659375000004,"end":442.89846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":443.28659375,"end":444.26534375000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":444.60284375000003,"end":444.97409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":444.97409375,"end":445.29471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":445.29471875,"end":445.36221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":445.36221875,"end":445.37909375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":448.97346875000005,"end":449.88471875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":450.35721875,"end":450.98159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":451.60596875000005,"end":454.08659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":454.37346875000003,"end":455.92596875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":456.68534375,"end":460.80284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":461.78159375,"end":462.99659375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":463.58721875000003,"end":465.03846875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":465.13971875000004,"end":470.03346875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":472.46346875,"end":472.96971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":473.96534375000005,"end":475.46721875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":474.65721875,"end":477.05346875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":477.44159375000004,"end":477.47534375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":477.47534375000004,"end":479.51721875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":477.59346875000006,"end":479.28096875000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":479.78721875,"end":482.58846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":481.60971875,"end":482.47034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":482.70659375,"end":484.15784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":484.34346875000006,"end":488.86596875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":487.48221875,"end":488.25846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":489.22034375000004,"end":490.03034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":490.03034375000004,"end":490.43534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":490.68846875,"end":490.70534375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":490.70534375000005,"end":492.29159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":493.18596875000003,"end":494.73846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":495.14346875,"end":496.34159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":497.28659375,"end":499.27784375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":499.58159375,"end":501.30284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":501.85971875,"end":503.27721875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":503.66534375000003,"end":508.30596875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":505.25159375000004,"end":506.36534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":508.30596875000003,"end":508.74471875000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":508.74471875000006,"end":510.21284375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":508.86284375,"end":512.2209687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":511.64721875000004,"end":512.2378437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":512.2378437500001,"end":512.2547187499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":512.2547187499999,"end":515.1572187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":515.7647187499999,"end":516.40596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":516.91221875,"end":519.5109687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":519.9834687499999,"end":521.5022187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":521.85659375,"end":522.7847187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":523.15596875,"end":524.1853437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":525.0122187500001,"end":528.4209687499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":528.5222187500001,"end":528.9778437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":528.9778437500001,"end":529.60221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":530.15909375,"end":530.8003437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":531.25596875,"end":532.2009687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":532.6059687500001,"end":533.2978437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":534.0065937500001,"end":536.06534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":534.7153437500001,"end":536.92596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":536.92596875,"end":536.9765937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":536.9765937500001,"end":536.9934687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":536.9934687500001,"end":538.19159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":538.69784375,"end":539.4740937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":538.9678437499999,"end":539.42346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":539.4740937500001,"end":539.6765937499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":540.25034375,"end":545.2453437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":546.02159375,"end":546.46034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":547.1015937500001,"end":548.8059687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":549.4809687500001,"end":550.6115937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":551.50596875,"end":553.49721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":553.8347187500001,"end":560.26409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":560.9053437499999,"end":562.52534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":563.5547187500001,"end":566.00159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":563.89221875,"end":577.42596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":575.6372187500001,"end":577.67909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":577.67909375,"end":577.83096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":577.83096875,"end":580.1765937499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":580.49721875,"end":580.5647187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":580.5647187500001,"end":581.77971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":582.5390937500001,"end":582.5559687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":582.5559687500001,"end":582.89346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":582.89346875,"end":583.33221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":582.91034375,"end":583.5347187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":583.88909375,"end":585.52596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":584.4797187500001,"end":585.3403437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":585.52596875,"end":588.66471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":588.96846875,"end":591.4153437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":591.4153437500001,"end":591.63471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":591.63471875,"end":592.61346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":591.88784375,"end":592.74846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":593.18721875,"end":593.71034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":594.80721875,"end":596.2922187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":596.95034375,"end":597.50721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":597.1865937499999,"end":597.49034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":597.50721875,"end":597.92909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":597.92909375,"end":599.51534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":598.1653437500001,"end":599.2622187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":599.51534375,"end":600.5109687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":600.5109687500001,"end":600.6628437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":600.6628437500001,"end":601.6922187499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":602.4853437500001,"end":602.5190937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":602.5190937500001,"end":607.51409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":605.6240937499999,"end":606.19784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":607.51409375,"end":610.0959687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":607.53096875,"end":607.64909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":610.3997187500001,"end":611.17596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":611.5134687500001,"end":612.59346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":613.23471875,"end":614.68596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":615.12471875,"end":615.68159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":616.1203437500001,"end":618.7022187499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":619.00596875,"end":620.0859687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":620.6765937499999,"end":621.4697187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":623.07284375,"end":625.48596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":626.34659375,"end":627.3928437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":628.20284375,"end":629.02971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":629.7722187500001,"end":630.1940937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":630.95346875,"end":632.2865937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":633.26534375,"end":635.9822187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":636.9272187500001,"end":640.55534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":641.50034375,"end":643.22159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":643.5590937500001,"end":646.86659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":647.69346875,"end":648.3684687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":647.87909375,"end":648.28409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":648.3684687500001,"end":650.0559687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":650.4440937500001,"end":656.6709687500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":656.02971875,"end":657.1772187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":657.1772187500001,"end":659.94471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":659.94471875,"end":659.97846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":660.8897187500002,"end":662.8303437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":663.4040937500001,"end":664.87221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":665.17596875,"end":666.4753437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":667.3528437500001,"end":668.5678437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":668.92221875,"end":669.6140937499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":669.6140937499999,"end":670.91346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":669.63096875,"end":670.9978437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":670.9978437500001,"end":675.3178437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":674.1028437500001,"end":674.4909687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":674.55846875,"end":675.0984687499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":675.57096875,"end":678.52409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":679.33409375,"end":681.3759687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":683.70471875,"end":684.6328437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":685.93221875,"end":687.1809687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":687.61971875,"end":690.03284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":690.6740937500001,"end":691.2647187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":691.99034375,"end":693.6272187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":696.1415937500001,"end":697.4240937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":697.7109687500001,"end":698.5547187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":698.7234687499999,"end":699.75284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":700.6640937500001,"end":701.57534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":702.3515937500001,"end":704.1740937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":705.1865937500002,"end":706.23284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":707.32971875,"end":709.28721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":709.8272187500002,"end":711.3290937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":712.2234687499999,"end":712.98284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":714.9740937500001,"end":716.89784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":717.89346875,"end":719.1928437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":720.4922187500001,"end":722.3147187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":722.7534687500001,"end":725.50409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":727.90034375,"end":729.58784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":729.9253437500001,"end":732.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":733.36784375,"end":735.35909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":735.8147187500001,"end":737.46846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":738.00846875,"end":738.7678437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":739.51034375,"end":741.11346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":742.0078437500001,"end":744.1172187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":746.5134687500001,"end":748.3022187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":750.12471875,"end":751.05284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":751.7109687500001,"end":752.62221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":753.19596875,"end":754.2590937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":755.28846875,"end":756.55409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":757.38096875,"end":759.94596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":763.55721875,"end":765.8859687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":767.65784375,"end":768.2822187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":768.82221875,"end":771.5559687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":771.9778437500001,"end":773.41221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":773.7834687500001,"end":774.5090937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":775.3359687500001,"end":776.4665937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":777.5634687500001,"end":778.91346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":779.9765937500001,"end":781.2422187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":782.13659375,"end":783.3684687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":784.70159375,"end":785.79846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":786.8447187500001,"end":788.78534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":790.16909375,"end":793.08846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":794.52284375,"end":795.4172187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":796.78409375,"end":797.9822187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":801.0872187500001,"end":801.8803437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":803.4665937500001,"end":804.4115937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":806.1328437500001,"end":807.19596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":807.4153437500001,"end":808.90034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":813.40596875,"end":814.18221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":814.65471875,"end":815.31284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":816.07221875,"end":817.20284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":817.5403437500001,"end":820.54409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":820.69596875,"end":821.82659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":822.3159687500001,"end":824.1215937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":823.05846875,"end":823.63221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":824.7122187500001,"end":824.91471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":824.8472187500001,"end":824.88096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":824.91471875,"end":825.1340937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":825.1340937500001,"end":825.35346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":825.60659375,"end":827.1928437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":828.8972187500001,"end":829.0322187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":829.0322187500001,"end":831.3272187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":829.3190937500001,"end":829.42034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":831.34409375,"end":832.66034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":833.1159687500001,"end":833.45346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":834.29721875,"end":835.44471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":835.44471875,"end":835.6640937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":835.7990937500001,"end":839.51159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":840.91221875,"end":842.04284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":842.59971875,"end":843.29159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":844.00034375,"end":844.70909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":844.84409375,"end":847.99971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":849.40034375,"end":850.6828437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":851.9484687500001,"end":854.83409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":852.9609687500001,"end":853.73721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":856.3528437500001,"end":856.7409687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":857.3484687500002,"end":858.12471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":858.96846875,"end":861.7022187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":862.46159375,"end":864.9253437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":866.6297187500002,"end":867.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":867.96284375,"end":870.62909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":871.1015937500001,"end":872.9578437500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":873.43034375,"end":874.12221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":874.39221875,"end":875.5734687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":875.97846875,"end":879.9778437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":879.01596875,"end":882.59346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":883.25159375,"end":884.4497187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":884.93909375,"end":887.9934687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":888.3647187500001,"end":897.2409687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":897.9665937500001,"end":899.85659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":899.89034375,"end":900.6328437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":900.6328437500001,"end":903.26534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":900.6497187500001,"end":901.69596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":902.50596875,"end":903.95721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":903.7547187500002,"end":904.78409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":904.93596875,"end":906.89346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":907.2478437500001,"end":912.39471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":908.8172187500002,"end":909.94784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":910.7240937500001,"end":912.3272187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":912.5803437500001,"end":916.0734687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":916.71471875,"end":919.3472187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":919.85346875,"end":920.12346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":920.64659375,"end":921.1697187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":921.62534375,"end":922.9753437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":923.9540937500001,"end":925.47284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":927.6159687500001,"end":931.07534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":931.61534375,"end":931.88534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":932.1553437500002,"end":937.3697187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":936.84659375,"end":941.77409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":942.61784375,"end":944.72721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":953.72159375,"end":962.96909375}],"whisperx":[{"start":25.242,"end":29.484,"text":"議長,我請杜議長。麻煩請卓院長備詢。對,杜議長。委員好。辛苦。應該。你一生中情,我給你觀察,今年心情,我個人吃香菜,也吃琴皮。不敢不敢。"},{"start":54.025,"end":68.294,"text":"所以你知道我們說的荷蘭話,我在說這個漢文台語也好,荷蘭話也好,臺灣話也好,是真真正正中文文化,你覺得不理解?當然是這對水條開始,有一本尺叫做尺文,那麼一直到東條,一本尺,到你發音叫做東文,"},{"start":84.213,"end":89.558,"text":"來到送到叫做公文﹖﹖﹖到清到叫做空虛禮典﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖"},{"start":110.472,"end":122.318,"text":"所以臺灣的一句句有音有理,我不知道你有沒有理解?你愛談話早點來打拚,我看你怎麼沒有在打拚啊?讓這天愛臺灣的人過去之前的人很感慨說,現在換一個國民黨的謝龍介在推薦漢文台語。"},{"start":135.592,"end":164.246,"text":"你講愛台灣講到都忘記,都講現在都愛台瓢而已,我抱歉我講正在臨幕沒大家,有接受愛軍姬媽啦,但得手的人還是一樣愛一塊土地啦。我今天上你這本書齁,最重要有意義,淪陪港,你所有看得到的範疇,都有我們台語的發音,像在查國語字典一樣,你如果要查國語理論,你就要嘔嘔這裡"},{"start":165.599,"end":169.552,"text":"在USB喔,你回去聽一遍,後座來到這裡,你就會對W流啊。"},{"start":196.46,"end":201.284,"text":"鳳珠宮有說＼軍事提起原理及機型＼就是說＼說一本機做不到一場戲＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼＼"},{"start":224.892,"end":233.481,"text":"我看你跟整個委員裡面的運動包括國民主席也好包括社會主席你不會去設定一個國標的手裡真好"},{"start":235.714,"end":260.971,"text":"你也有熱情出牌,我等會給你看,他都亂講了。 什麼在賣人,那些只有在選舉他就亂講了,說我理孔什麼,他要起二十萬號,你看總統那些都把他擁有了,就死心無,不然就漏氣,換一個漏氣回來,但是你的態度不錯就是說,包括我們的政府委員長在幫你報告樓庭委員,包括其他議員在講"},{"start":263.188,"end":290.43,"text":"我告訴你,做得到比較重要,不是做事情,不能用手裡來包裝,所以你不要叫我熱情地出牌,我看你一刀。﹏不會啦、不會啦﹏真的不會?﹏不會啦﹏不會?﹏不會﹏比較硬?﹏不會,他都對國家的風雄,如果這樣很正確,這個國家會有好的風雄,怕這樣就是啊。﹏世寒頭寒雨大寒的頭寒,世寒的頭寒不大寒的頭寒雨,你知道嗎?﹏沒有啦,沒有頭寒的頭寒啦﹏沒有,來來來,給我看看,來。﹏"},{"start":297.833,"end":298.874,"text":"阿該無聲阿?阿?阿?阿?阿?"},{"start":315.199,"end":318.162,"text":"謝龍介議員說到做到實現政治人物最重要的誠信。"},{"start":338.459,"end":339.14,"text":"他們的清白"},{"start":356.121,"end":371.432,"text":"謝龍介議員說到做到,實現政治人物最重要的誠信。 謝龍介議員說到做到,實現政治人物最重要的誠信。 謝龍介議員說到做到,實現政治人物最重要的誠信。"},{"start":383.713,"end":393.461,"text":"主席他就是說要施理先施啦。他說對啊,有資料你先施啊。 要施理先施這樣。對啊,有資料你先施啊。 我說我施理就施他,他說對,有資料你先施。對要兩句一樣。 我要說,他當時是設定人,所以政敵,當然我有資料我付出代價。"},{"start":409.741,"end":410.081,"text":"我給你看一看。"},{"start":438.493,"end":444.678,"text":"立法院接受這個立法院的這個國情諮詢這是錯的這個是假訊息因為根據不管是根據憲法或是根據立法院職權刑事法總統都有義務"},{"start":463.915,"end":475.699,"text":"應立法院的要求．到國會去進行國情報告．接受立法委員的國情諮詢。 你看,他的態度並沒有改變。 國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":475.699,"end":476.219,"text":"態度不錯啊!"},{"start":476.219,"end":477.66,"text":"現在立法院一直在通過而已啊!"},{"start":477.66,"end":477.98,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":477.98,"end":478.76,"text":"現在立法院一直在通過而已啊!"},{"start":478.76,"end":479.16,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":479.16,"end":480.481,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":480.481,"end":481.261,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":481.261,"end":481.641,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":481.641,"end":481.941,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":481.941,"end":482.221,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":482.221,"end":482.942,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":482.942,"end":483.362,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":483.362,"end":484.422,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":484.422,"end":485.082,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!"},{"start":485.082,"end":485.563,"text":"國際氣氛有改變啊!國際"},{"start":493.237,"end":507.862,"text":"我比你更了解他啦,也有看他啦,你有看他到最後,你很快就被他挖了,我告訴你,他想把你拿來替他弄,說到沒年過年這個我看不下去,我的人最不要這樣啦。"},{"start":508.942,"end":508.962,"text":"﹚謝龍介﹚"},{"start":532.677,"end":541.048,"text":"不是總統 總統 大家都可以當孫總統啦 總統不太聰明欸 但是在這裡我也說了對國家的元首應該有合適的內容 對不對 所以一問一答不一定來 大家要一個態度出來"},{"start":551.739,"end":551.759,"text":"﹚謝龍介"},{"start":563.784,"end":565.786,"text":"現料無該遂,所以現在配備就對了。（6月25日．現料無該遂,所以現在配備就對了。"},{"start":582.561,"end":591.432,"text":"因為我們都有看到,跟修法的理論啦。（所以他對憲法在臨時1、2、3、4,常講這樣今天講的問題可以講這樣嗎?（不是這樣啦,我跟你說,你沒必要我更了解,你沒在這裡聽他,這沒必要。"},{"start":602.603,"end":609.988,"text":"他的事他要自己做,個人做要個人擔。﹖不是,我們是聽憲法的進行。﹖對不對?聽憲法的進行。﹖他這樣很好啊,跳到第一層,我給他欣賞,我給他按個讚。﹖喔,跳到第一層,好啊,第一層來面對,大家請面面對,面與對決,都沒問題。﹖我告訴你啦,選舉大家都會啦,不要用騙的,要無視,喔。"},{"start":630.984,"end":656.797,"text":"啊現在怎麼幫我救他?你也不怕欸?我在台南市給他衝到一半兩百三十四天沒有禮拜議會。嗯。啊這叫做憲法這沒危險。施政不用你給他給禮完這順。這樣沒危險。啊這危險的事他不做有夠多次啊。那有歷史的原因。啊不要再說歷史的原因。啊那件事情以前也有很多人覺得說。啊我當時人家沒歷史的原因。我當時是在那裡記啦。"},{"start":660.916,"end":663.718,"text":"我告訴你聽啦,我在第三檔我問啦,我說是對。做三檔我啊。"},{"start":685.984,"end":693.491,"text":"你告訴我你到今天如果做一間台南市的建設一間就好我謝龍介同時施政你老總統不給我贏啊?不好意思說給我來拜託來經過五個月以後民進黨提名提名之後你知道他把台南市的鄉親第一股的文宣說什麼?你注意聽啊"},{"start":715.011,"end":724.657,"text":"各位臺南市民朋友,我是大勝竹。過去的四檔我都在歸位,未來的四檔,我們臺南市的大進步。我告訴你,做一個社區,可以領受一個市長四檔都在歸位。所以我問你,你做一個建設,他抱歉給我贏,坦白說,贏不出來。所以我說你不要拒絕他啦,再給他頒一個五千塊錢,來,注意聽。"},{"start":746.553,"end":752.256,"text":"民進黨籍的公職人員,市長也好、立委也好、議員也好,講一句比較淡白的啦﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖�"},{"start":775.853,"end":803.539,"text":"為什麼會這樣?因為互相攻擊嘛!互相攻擊嘛!作為老市長,今天你回來台南,心情是很痛痛的。對台南市發生的事,我真的很痛心。所以我在這,我希望市長站起來。李維站起來!議員都站起來!"},{"start":806.181,"end":807.501,"text":"臨時提案委員．謝龍介臨時提案委員．謝龍介"},{"start":834.329,"end":836.511,"text":"今天有一個新聞,就是說中國大陸派人來監視我們的媒體。"},{"start":857.395,"end":864.88,"text":"你明明知道他在監視我們的媒體在跟我們操作,你為什麼是抱歉和你跟我調侃放棄照?還有這個事情,媒體可以這樣補嗎?當然不行啊,如果有這個事實。啊有這個事實你為什麼放棄照啊?這個事實,發生了事情,是不是大家都知道這件事陸委會來跟他...大家都知道我告訴你,他剛才做的事如果有這個事情啦。"},{"start":883.288,"end":898.311,"text":"我跟整棟一樣,整棟也利用很多媒體,還有中央廚房,每天都要討論什麼,今天討論韓國禄,明天再討論謝龍介。 齁,徐巧欣、蒲翠雅說話,每個人都說一樣,你如果說他們是這樣就對了,你如果知道是這樣,不這樣,你回去炒,我會提供一個共同的群組給你。"},{"start":907.313,"end":908.514,"text":"委員報告,他是因為輪調回去了"},{"start":932.196,"end":944.346,"text":"阿輪到有四人回去阿,你從我的故事已經講就對了,是有阿沒有,有這個事情阿沒有啦。我們現在會跟文化部主管機關一起來做行政調查。阿沒調查欸,當報案的那一陣子是..."},{"start":954.611,"end":962.995,"text":"謝謝謝龍介委員的質詢。謝謝卓院長的備詢。報告委員會現在在議場二樓旁聽的是臺灣四代教育基金會所有的好朋友歡迎。"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}