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他的理由就對了 如果像他這樣啦你若不是故意 那個政界都要打死啦台師死的人 他只要出庭的時候說我不是中邪的啊我沒想要被死啦 開始要告別人他們都死"},{"start":253.356,"end":255.077,"text":"這樣他就不能判死刑了對不對?是不是這樣?我不是告他啊我臨時去的啊 在這文章那裡臨時的啊我沒有要讓他死耶最後他死我才發怒咧?才有現在的解釋 這樣整個就不用死了啦啊"},{"start":284.484,"end":291.79,"text":"所謂說你沒用去嘛!你解說到不得不起嘛!你動輒這裡的大餐不菜!反腐早煮大家都看不見!人民的憤怒嘛!你傷害兩千三百五十萬人的感情嘛!屬我感情嘛!正義的感情嘛!比如說,你敢拿這三十七個就對了齁?他們都犯什麼罪給我們判死刑的?"},{"start":312.56,"end":319.844,"text":"他們裡面就包括271條、378條,共通都是有故意殺人。經濟性高就在3年,因為台人怕崩潰。再來羅馬,窮仔出債,怕3年撤票。這的人這樣沒嚴重,這樣有嚴重嗎?"},{"start":341.766,"end":342.587,"text":"檢察總長你不用拔整層的,我告訴你,你這個剛好當機檢到頭做的那些人你覺得這37個裡面最嚴重、台詞最多的什麼人你知道嗎?"},{"start":371.886,"end":373.287,"text":"有一個五月的啦 辦會平間完這個辦會休息五月 喔 但是我說在那裡判判的理由說什麼呢 他說這就要直接告議 或是第一告議 殺人 這樣你比較有辦法 這樣才可以判處決刑就對了 喔"},{"start":399.415,"end":408.461,"text":"若是間接故意的或是說我不是故意的臨時把你拋給死的臨時把你抬給死的這樣都不能判死刑是不是這樣?是這樣喔我請教你 你法律施法多一點啦這樣你施法有哪一篇的學術和理論主張這種的就是說"},{"start":426.769,"end":427.53,"text":"中文字幕 沛隊字幕"},{"start":441.567,"end":460.543,"text":"報告,大法官的這個判決,我們當然一般的法官當然都是要尊重所以大法官古早已經說了,他們說的他們對就對了啊,立法院委員這裡說的都說危險啊,就要算到他們那裡不是他們說的我們對而已,我現在請教你啊,他解釋這樣啊,對不對全世界有做一個發展,做一本論文說這樣如果說是3期3年啦齁"},{"start":471.209,"end":477.37,"text":"那麼被告我主動說 我就沒準備 我沒準備要跟他談 我不是有無的這樣被告就不會死了我相信 還是跟委員報告 被告當然在訴訟中他都會這樣去講沒有啦 這樣有利沒有啦就是說 因為待會我已經解說了 以你的司法經驗跟你性愛這麼優秀的表現這樣有利嗎 有合理嗎"},{"start":499.299,"end":504.141,"text":"你既然說施行是合憲嘛,那這樣以這種概率有沒有合理?報告,剛才說主任有他的理由啦,他考慮他們當然,討論大法院做成的過程中,都斟酌了很多的這些的相關的這些意見。這些人的判決啦齁,你像那個勞基明講出來,把那個勞書去採取那些賣菜回來。"},{"start":522.637,"end":530.661,"text":"講到這裏把他抱在頭上這樣吹奄奄哪有酒這樣流出來還把他強姦、還把他殺人、還把他搶劫這個狗尾我怎麼不會死啊招待我高的胖子我這個不會死啊阿去美國留學那十年了跟他們男朋友圍著他們老伯沒有跟他嫁錢啊這樣而已啊講到這裏他還要把他們老伯抱好死"},{"start":553.668,"end":560.813,"text":"齁?這也不會死啦!做大法官的解說,這都不會死啦!台師弟兄的尊卿相!完全沒人性!最好說我不是故意的!白色老白色弟!求我們的法律就知道讓他運動!我們的大法官就是說,這個私刑、私刑犯、殺人犯,要有人權!但是咧?"},{"start":581.482,"end":585.007,"text":"這無期徒刑、有期徒刑的人不用有領款,他不用一地關的。為什麼?白色人身的自由就沒重要。白色生命很重要,這有領款的問題。白色一個人、一世人的自由,沒領款的問題嘛。"},{"start":599.26,"end":601.822,"text":"最近一二三都破私刑了結果還有罪過的人發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮發揮"},{"start":627.403,"end":644.391,"text":"所以到4天了 今天4星了?4天還要跟基督徒報仇?這樣你們就爽啦!你們就不安逸啦!台灣國家也不安逸嘛!這樣不是這樣嗎?這樣不是傷害台灣的司法正義?不是傷害人民對司法最好的期待的感情嗎?感冒?你看我咧?"},{"start":649.704,"end":653.647,"text":"憲法法庭113年度憲法法庭113年度判決宣示相關法令之檢討與修正"},{"start":679.923,"end":683.605,"text":"發言的質詢是?這八檔他剛才都在忙什麼八檔啊他都在思念什麼金利特的訴訟啊這可不是他常常在念的啊再來啊 要去鑑定啊結果你們給這八檔來這所有的法官都總是在違憲中執行法官他這八檔在做什麼"},{"start":708.505,"end":708.685,"text":"未來這兩天對這37個"},{"start":733.151,"end":736.232,"text":"因為大法官再次解釋很明確啦,我想應該不會那麼久"},{"start":758.496,"end":763.998,"text":"你把這兩天,法務部這兩天這37天,一天你都不會吸一口你說他們覺得這樣他可以離開他要去走行嗎?我跟你說,這個人很聰明,他知道他如果沒做他的事,所以他們都很清楚,為什麼不能去走行?"},{"start":782.166,"end":790.833,"text":"他如果知道說就要去再審 要知道說要去提出這個非常重訴 要不然 無論如何就要判斷他我對這次憲法法庭的判官 我是被記者很多名義給我很多壓力 說他真失望 真失望 台灣走到這個時候"},{"start":811.072,"end":826.063,"text":"不是不能修啊不是不能毀啊但是你還把社會講到大家感情上可以同意你還把這37個都當歹死61個人這61個人的生命比他們白色的時候還有人替這61個人說他們的靈魂受到極度的傷害結果反頭大家都要做聖靈 不能夠歹死"},{"start":840.117,"end":848.24,"text":"這咱簽書兩公約．對人群死命的爆端．要用最嚴格．來面對．我可以答應你．我也可以同情你．也可以理解你．但是當社會．這死命的一條一條被我們爆殺的時候．你敢不敢出來講這句話．敢不．這十五個大法官敢不出來講這句話．"},{"start":871.499,"end":872.96,"text":"忠心悲心嘛這37個喔 看要打死幾個 我跟你講 平時受傷發 要緊傷了主席 我跟你講 這如果沒傷了 就一個打不死 沒一個可以接受的你們現在就變歸變怪 都用一些機靠 你們扯得太多啦 發入白手吧啦"},{"start":896.485,"end":903.049,"text":"這就是民進黨復讀施行大來的虛擬症當然復民進黨也有人支持復讀施行不是這個時候啦不是出息出卻啦"},{"start":927.11,"end":929.691,"text":"回去跟大法官說一下 跟你們議長說一下拜託他要理會進行要求 整天 緊縮 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