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三、10月11日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。 三、10月11日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。 三、10月11日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。"},{"start":703.476,"end":730.669,"text":"委員我們回憶一下上禮拜我們都吃過一頓午餐你很清楚我沒有聽到你的回應啊都是我的夢我的講我都很注意聽委員的話我們都受你感動我講的話你都沒有聽有你答應我我當然會聽但是針對這一塊是全國的人的注意針對始祖民你對我們的照顧我們很感受到後續的發展我說那一天我們在那個就是啟動一個很好的開始我也很欣慰看到聽到"},{"start":732.19,"end":751.856,"text":"大院最近可能反開朝野協商,所以我也聽到,所以我才再問你一次,那一天我有問,但是我沒有回應。那我希望很多的事情我們放在朝野協商裡面去談。所以我希望,因為我們聽到的是各部會,他說他們就是沒有編,所以我才問,再問一次。"},{"start":753.056,"end":753.176,"text":"委員﹚麥玉珍"},{"start":779.356,"end":779.917,"text":"臨時提案委員：麥玉珍"},{"start":809.336,"end":819.827,"text":"你為了保護大家承擔這樣子的罪名就是不仁不義啊不要把這些錢就是要去編列所以無法讓聯運達成共識最後"},{"start":823.342,"end":849.673,"text":"我害怕最後有沒有可能因為沒有辦法達成兩院的共識就害我們的卓院長為了大家就是負責要下台這都是大家害的因為我們院長想要去做但是各個部會不願意編這樣的話就害了我們的卓院長我沒有不願意編的委員我有編4萬你聽到嗎那天我有想啊我沒有編4萬對不對"},{"start":853.274,"end":881.121,"text":"你沒有總預算回去沒有編,如果有編的話就不用再協商了。我們有編4萬阿,委員我都注意聽你的話你都沒有聽,我們對進華補償有編4萬,本來3萬我們現在有編4萬。如果是院長要編照我們退回的總預算,這樣子的話我們協商就會圓滿。我那天有講說大事化小事,小事化無事,大家圓滿。協商就是我注意聽你的話,你要注意聽我的話。"},{"start":882.041,"end":906.257,"text":"我有編4萬你有聽到嗎所以我們現在就是希望我們大家達成共識啦所以我們再協商再來去討論我明明那天說我編了4萬可是外黨的黃委員說我一毛不編你應該去問他啊為什麼他的聽到話叫做一毛不編啊這顯然是一個錯誤的答覆不要避重就輕好不好"},{"start":907.277,"end":923.451,"text":"問我們的教育部在2020年的時候,因為是教文所以我們先不討論那個,所以網路霸凌通報顯示因為兩岸關係造成就是族群的對立"},{"start":924.231,"end":942.873,"text":"新住民子女在學校也受到歧視和霸凌的案件很多,尤其是我們的陸珮還有就是她的子女,因為受到很大的傷害。大家都,她嫁來台灣了,大家都在罵她說因為兩岸的關係,很多原因就是"},{"start":943.954,"end":968.402,"text":"外乎就是刻板印象導致這樣子的霸凌但是我們的孩子都是我們心目中的寶貝不只是族群的歧視繼續發生還有影響到不是個人還有家庭更影響到社會的問題所以現在呢我們要想要討論一下研議一下如何讓我們的校園減少肢體的衝突還有語言的歧視"},{"start":972.183,"end":972.784,"text":"請部長答覆"},{"start":992.941,"end":1019.795,"text":"謝謝委員關心這個校園霸凌的問題我想怎麼樣提供一個安全友善的校園環境確實是一直學校辦學要努力這一個努力的一個方向是的,但是霸凌一直在增加所以我們才要請教我們要怎麼處理我們現在不僅就是說學校也希望家庭跟社會一起來共同營造一個這樣的一個"},{"start":1020.896,"end":1029.483,"text":"所以就學校的部分我們現在事實上具體的從這個青少年跟高中這個開學開始我們就透過親師座談透過班會讓能夠去讓同學能夠理解不同族群還有許多認識霸凌包含不僅是語言肢體網路霸凌怎麼樣我們要能夠"},{"start":1048.578,"end":1064.3,"text":"所以關於網路霸凌我們每一個人就是從幼稚園就要接觸到3C產品網路非常發達但是學生普遍也是在用社群潑紋所以就造成"},{"start":1065.281,"end":1094.245,"text":"網路也有以原霸凌延伸到網路去尤其是學生所以我們要如何教導學生使用正確的網路還要如何辨識不實的招搖危害學生有的人就是因為他們的人身安全所以沒辦法遭到網路霸凌也有人去自殺這個部分也造成我們的學生身心靈的陰影行政院如果有政策的"},{"start":1094.865,"end":1100.769,"text":"具體的方式解決,這個才是真的,不是只是做做看,這是表面而已,真的沒大到。"},{"start":1114.136,"end":1117.377,"text":"有很多教育部長說有很多但是呢就是宣傳不夠"},{"start":1141.764,"end":1141.945,"text":"我講我們會繼續來努力。"},{"start":1158.107,"end":1179.883,"text":"因為現在要生的孩子沒人沒借,所以要保護比較要緊,所以呢我們希望我們行政院一定要重視霸凌這個議題,因為一直在掙扎,你宣傳不夠,你的預防不夠才會增加,所以讓我們一同來如何去保護我們這群寶貝,這群小孩好不好。"},{"start":1182.865,"end":1205.734,"text":"對,還有就是因為也是延伸就是網路,現在AI交易也是世界的氣勢,對不對,所以也是科技的進步的象徵,所以我們也非常的支持我們就是交易就是要越來越發展,越來比別的國家更好,對不對,但是呢,"},{"start":1206.994,"end":1232.599,"text":"我們台灣的發展AI同時我們也需要注意AI帶來的風險因為我們現在的倫理教育道德教育在我們的學校裡面少於也少所以這個部分我們一定要讓我們小孩了解來去應用這個是我們很注重的所以教育部就是要積極來"},{"start":1234.239,"end":1234.759,"text":"公務委員報告"},{"start":1260.389,"end":1271.135,"text":"規範有沒有明確讓大家更了解。謝謝委員提醒不過確實委員所關心的也是我們現在正在做的一個方向跟委員報告我們在這一學習9月開學前對這個AI怎麼樣使用數位這一個能夠學習"},{"start":1278.2,"end":1280.502,"text":"因為推動AI是很好,但是沒有先行設想學生為了"},{"start":1300.023,"end":1300.043,"text":"謝謝委員,確實..."},{"start":1324.472,"end":1347.566,"text":"教文組織2021年也是在AI倫理的建議書明確指出AI危險存在於越來越多性別及種族的偏見,所以對隱私尊嚴和機構的組織帶來最大的危險,所以如何解決AI來帶來的危險,所以這個部分我們是"},{"start":1349.285,"end":1358.873,"text":"謝謝委員關心 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