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也是生命耶怎麼就這樣牽結了呢"},{"start":419.093,"end":435.243,"text":"怎麼就這樣牽扯呢那現在他喝酒被警察測出來欸他是有酒精的第二個自己也承認超速第三他也承認撞到東西撞到什麼他不曉得可是這個部分部長"},{"start":436.184,"end":458.796,"text":"我今天特別在議事殿堂跟你檢舉我看看你們辦不辦不要偵查不公開連這個也不公開那到最後我開國際記者會這個會一笑國氣啊部長我剛剛跟你檢舉這件案子我希望我希望你把它當成一回事把它查清楚勿妄勿縱"},{"start":461.479,"end":463.601,"text":"我現在跟你剪輯這個案件我再送給你"},{"start":481.46,"end":490.418,"text":"那這邊相關的資料請委員提供我們再轉交給那個不是轉交 我要你部長你要去注意這件事你是檢察官 你是檢察長出身的"},{"start":492.068,"end":501.39,"text":"所以我跟你講我不要你去干涉這些他有煙情你部長當然要站出來這是不保證你不可以再跟我搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞搞"},{"start":522.134,"end":539.366,"text":"總共有18件啦我已經請了意見陳述啦已經在辦啦不是幾件的問題是有事時就要辦到底嘛阿如果沒有我會講喔主委我會講喔回來交通委員會我會好好審議算我會好好審議算好不好好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:55:28.991000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:55:29.151000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:55:30.011000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:55:31.232000+08:00","text":"請法務部鄭部長。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-10-23T11:55:31.232000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:55:31.672000+08:00","text":"麻煩部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:55:31.672000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:55:34.013000+08:00","text":"請NCC主委。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-10-23T11:55:34.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:55:35.053000+08:00","text":"請翁代主委。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:55:47.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:56:05.204000+08:00","text":"鄭部長、翁主委，我看到主席今天標註的議題是偵查不公開，但最後看起來偵查却是大公開。","quality":0.757},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:56:08.385000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:56:17.916000+08:00","text":"當然，偵查不公開本來就擁有法律之規範，過去你們確實也一直遵守這些。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:56:18.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:56:45.384000+08:00","text":"但是我要特別請教鄭部長，關於柯文哲案，我要在這裡請教一個敏感的問題，原來京華城的案子是調查局立案在辦，但是傳言鄭部長下令移給廉政署。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:56:46.185000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:56:48.046000+08:00","text":"部長，有沒有這回事？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2024-10-23T11:56:49.267000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:56:51.688000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，沒有這回事。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2024-10-23T11:56:52.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:57:01.114000+08:00","text":"調查局立案最早是由民意代表告發的，這部分……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:57:01.114000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-10-23T11:57:02.114000+08:00","text":"部長，我跟你講，我的時間有限，回答有或無就好。","quality":0.053},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2024-10-23T11:57:02.114000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-10-23T11:57:03.114000+08:00","text":"沒有、沒有、沒有，沒有這回事。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:57:03.114000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-10-23T11:57:04.114000+08:00","text":"沒這種事情喔？對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:57:02.855000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:57:18.025000+08:00","text":"鄭部長在司法界給人家的感覺，確確實實也是在為司法捍衛，是一個漢子啦！","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:57:18.805000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:57:31.233000+08:00","text":"但是我沒有想到也確確實實地，當了部長之後，偵查不公開看起來似乎真的是偵查公開欸！","quality":0.811},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:57:32.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:57:41.239000+08:00","text":"部長還有翁主委，你們看一下，三立電視臺自爆檢調的線已經養了7年。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:57:43.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:01.896000+08:00","text":"當然，或許是這個記者自抬身價，但是確確實實是他寫出來的，還有鏡周刊寫出來，奇怪的是，你們都跟著他的腳步走？","quality":0.851},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:02.536000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:07.521000+08:00","text":"所以，偵查不公開真的是諷刺啦！","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:08.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:24.815000+08:00","text":"站在老百姓的立場來講，我們當民意代表的人必須下情上達，讓翁主委、讓鄭部長了解什麼叫作偵查不公開，因為現在老百姓是不相信的！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:26.997000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:32.760000+08:00","text":"部長，枉費你一世英名，你在司法界可是多少有一點名氣！","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:32.760000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:39.465000+08:00","text":"可是在你主政法務部底下的檢察官，在這裡我跟你講，前功盡棄了！","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:40.265000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:42.247000+08:00","text":"部長，不要只為了當官啦！","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:42.887000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:45.189000+08:00","text":"針對柯文哲的案子，我們將心比心啦！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:46.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:47.510000+08:00","text":"到底有沒有大公開？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:48.861000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:52.484000+08:00","text":"老百姓認為真的是大公開的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員國成","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:53.004000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:53.965000+08:00","text":"部長，針對這個問題，我30秒給你，你有什麼看法？","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:53.985000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:54.185000+08:00","text":"這是外界對我們辦案團隊的……誤解？","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:54.245000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:54.905000+08:00","text":"誤解啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2024-10-23T11:58:55.026000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-10-23T11:58:55.186000+08:00","text":"我再強調啦！","quality":1},{"speak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