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個交易裡面以後可以收到一部分的稅金這個事業你們也要考慮在內這個確實是我們在內部討論的重點因為確實我們覺得說未來市場的發展我們不是只看這26家我們是考慮到國際的競爭以及臺灣這個產業未來要怎麼樣定位跟發展所以剛剛委員剛才提到了有沒有辦法大型化"},{"start":519.741,"end":541.195,"text":"可以把它更規範化這件事情對市場秩序這是確實我們在考慮的重點也謝謝委員的提醒我覺得這個要考慮在內因為這個東西既然已經是國際化你如果能夠拉回到本土落地然後在臺灣能夠有比較好的交易的這些規範甚至讓政府也可以抽到稅對臺灣、對投資人都是一件好事"},{"start":541.795,"end":567.064,"text":"所以這個都是必須要考慮的謝謝你願意納入考慮我現在提一個個案最近期貨公會對於70歲以上的人你們說70歲以上的投資以前你只有同意專業投資人跟一定的資產以上的那就等於認為他是專業投資人才可以做70歲以上期貨的投資嘛那你現在把這個解禁了讓一般70歲以上的年紀人的大的人"},{"start":568.154,"end":592.716,"text":"因為會去通知期貨有時候不是只有他自己主動意願有時候是被動、被邀約、被廣告拉進來那年紀大的人70歲以上如果他沒有這方面的專業能力那你以後都光靠這些自律光靠這些期貨商的自律這樣子有辦法嗎你認為這樣子的政策是對的嗎"},{"start":594.877,"end":622.69,"text":"確實陳主委員提醒的就是我們過去在基於一個就是說用一個年齡做一個區分那其實我們也觀察到了當然年齡當然是一個集體的表徵但是其實很多人他其實在某個年齡以上比如65歲以上他其實並沒有在很多地方並沒有衰但是我們在政策上卻不做任何的區分一律予以這個排除我想在一個金融的這樣的服務上面我們也是非常的"},{"start":624.331,"end":651.827,"text":"這個審慎的拿捏我們只是說要求我們的這些業者不要以完全以年齡作為區分比如70歲以上就完全不准做任何事情我希望他們更…不是喔他原來的政策是70歲以上你如果原來就是專業的投資人你本身就有測試到這個期貨這個領域或是你的資產到達一定的規模因為你那麼大的資產你來投資應該是比較相信你會有審慎的考慮嘛是本來不是不准"},{"start":652.848,"end":676.049,"text":"是有條件的准許但是你現在變成完全由這個交易的這個來這個KYC來認識客戶然後由工會這邊來處理讓證券商來處理證券商當然希望能夠做越多生意越好但是這時候你要注意有沒有受到邀約引誘然後投到這個領域裡面來他對這個東西是不了解"},{"start":676.71,"end":701.306,"text":"不是那麼了解的人突然之間進到這個領域裡面來他能夠好好的處理嗎沒錯這是我們監理官應該做的我們剛剛講說我們其實最簡單的做法就是幾歲以上禁止其實上我覺得這個在未來比如說我們高齡化社會來到的時候我覺得我們這要更細緻的考慮剛剛委員提醒我覺得我會請我們同仁不會是以這個就是特別是未來有些不當交易的這些部分我們會好好來做這個把關"},{"start":702.307,"end":730.016,"text":"那不然另外一個要求就是說如果是這樣子的話被你用客戶、認識客戶的人自己他們這個期貨上市也去處理的話那如果有違規的話你是不是要加很多倍的重罰對,如果有不當的這個勸誘誘引的話不適合沒有落實KYC因為我在這邊13年了我們非常多次的金融風暴都是期限的監管不到後來沒有想到那麼多或是比較自由化就有人就利用這樣的漏洞"},{"start":730.636,"end":741.704,"text":"產生了問題之後集體化之後就變政治問題這個是要先考量在前面謝謝委員提醒我想這部分我們剛剛局長也聽到了他應該回去我們會來趕快來研究這個問題好謝謝你謝謝委員的提醒謝謝好謝謝秉瑞委員接著我們請戴思寶委員質詢"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}