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感受到有熟悉感阿有阿這是我一向的主張對這是你一向的主張阿你的主張是這樣子阿你的這個具體的解決方式是怎樣子你難道要把台灣的資金任由外資這樣子牽著鼻子走跑來跑去嗎當然不是當然不是我剛剛問"},{"start":393.098,"end":413.574,"text":"跟我們報告的意思就是說我會寫那篇文章主要是提醒就是說我們要均衡就是說我們今天的保險的功能它本來就有一個投資型保單它本來就是兼具有投資的功能它本來就是這樣但是另外還有一個保障的功能那我只是說我們通常在景氣的時候呢很多保險公司呢大概就會以這個為主"},{"start":414.335,"end":442.896,"text":"那其實上要考慮到未來當不景氣的時候這其實上是未來可能有生意風險你客氣了你這個說法你就是對這個投資型保單感到高度的質疑嘛你只是點到為止而已嘛他有兩面性他有兩面性對你有兩面性啦對啊你包牌的寫法啦我沒有說啦他因為損益是由客戶來致富啦這是一個他很重要的特徵我必須跟你說啦你上個禮拜比較老比較直接啊了當了說就是美喬商會跟歐洲商會在找"},{"start":443.576,"end":469.729,"text":"人、遊說啦我跟你說這個遊說的人不只是美喬商會跟這個外商而已還有包括你們內部的人你們內部人的立場其實跟這個外商都站在一致的立場他拼命的遊說啦我不要講說誰啦以前在政企局啦現在在保險局啦你要搞清楚啦這也在考驗你的領導統一的能力啊是謝謝委員提醒你們後面的金管會員有在笑啦"},{"start":473.591,"end":490.249,"text":"沒有我想主要是這樣因為其實站在一個政府立場我們不只哪個哪個單位或機構團體他的提的建議我們都會考慮但我們不會只以他的意見為主投資人的錢很重要儘管會最重要把關者就是你保護投資人你保護他推進火坑好不好"},{"start":490.749,"end":516.038,"text":"當然當然這我們會來努力你如果真的要壯大投信的話也不是壯大國外投信要壯大本土投信要壯大本土優質的投信你之前就提過壯大投信要從什麼開始從你們自己提到的躍進計畫開始啦你們躍進計畫從2015年就有了最近呢今年又有做一些修改簡單的講要精進啦目標要分期管理啦第三要差別待遇啦"},{"start":517.498,"end":537.454,"text":"你把齊頭市的平等應該稍微放寬一下不要每一次每一個投信單位都只有一個你應該把級距稍微拉高表現好的我商品你提出的商品我加速審理或者把那個額度提高鼓勵啊正常的壯大投信壯大本土投信壯大本土優質的投信啊不是嗎是的"},{"start":539.315,"end":567.77,"text":"那你這個基金計畫要好好改一改嘛我們其實一直都在調整啦剛剛委員的指正我們會期讓大家投信你沒有把資金留到臺灣結果把資金拱手讓人去進行一些高風險的商品的操作那怎麼對我叫你這個要好好檢討啦我真的反對你這個把這個這個在全委開放啦最後我再跟你討論一下有關於這個這個南非幣的事情我上禮拜請教於你你有沒有想到什麼好的因應方法"},{"start":568.935,"end":594.612,"text":"現在當然就是說我已經有指證了我們就去先把這個所謂的曝險部位我們先做一個瞭解再去分析他們的屬性以及看看他們的到底會有多大的影響到底這是一個什麼樣的影響比如說我們知道銀行跟保險跟證券那當然現在是以證券的金額是佔比較多你們之前公布的金融商業有641億的公債南非必計價的基金有2265億但是少"},{"start":596.994,"end":612.305,"text":"作為計算本期幫你加一個是投資型的保單368億再加上這個南非幣的存款就是我是從央行這邊調來的總共是4216億啦總額是這樣子的,目前的金額高達4000億以上其一,其二你要怎麼做"},{"start":613.806,"end":642.518,"text":"我講白一點我跟你探討一個問題啦這個問題其實是過去常常提到外交就是所謂的金錢外交我覺得要如何變成形成一個金融的外交台灣的金融實力可以作為一個外交一個很重要的槓桿的一個武器啊你身為這個主委你應該要善用我們的金融實力啊所以我上週特別提醒你這一點你說你沒有注意到那我給你一個禮拜的時間你還是沒回答出來還是要跟我回答資金的規模資金的規模跟我估計又不一樣"},{"start":644.338,"end":665.963,"text":"可以怎麼做?當然就是我們假設我們商品的話先以風險處理為先那接下來我們來看說因為假設看它的政情變化我們怎麼樣去因應這個措施至少我們未來對這個商品的發行或什麼我們會有一些不一樣的看法發行有不一樣的看法?就緊縮?限制?當然就是未來可能就是未來那現有的呢?"},{"start":667.203,"end":683.958,"text":"現有的部分它很多都是有相關契約的規定有沒有可能南非幣計價可以改成美元計價有沒有可能這個當然是契約當時的約定啦我想是這部分可能那你去看看嘛這第二個有沒有可能把這一個風險懸殊把它提高成10倍有沒有可能"},{"start":685.494,"end":713.441,"text":"這不是契約了吧這風險權術的部分我們要再來評估它真正的風險才能夠決定那有沒有可能限制金融商業投資南非國債的部分限期出脫有沒有可能我想所有的方法都可以評估中這業者都是你在管的嘛我已經跟你講三招了嘛第四招有沒有可能把金融機構從事南非交易者降低它ESG的平等分數有沒有可能全部都是你的權利欸"},{"start":714.608,"end":736.639,"text":"主委 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