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譬如說像我們每個委員會"},{"start":3108.132,"end":3134.444,"text":"有出委員會的條文那當然就直接到這個院會做二三讀但如果說有出委員會可是沒有決論那就是要協商那協商通常會變兩個一個是由不管是那個委員會的召委再擇期召開協商那如果假設委員會的召委擇期召開協商還是沒有共識那一樣會有一個這個紀錄之後就會送到"},{"start":3135.484,"end":3150.552,"text":"院長請院長再召開黨團之間的協商那這是這樣的一個處理那如果說院長召開有共識的話那就會送這個院會二三讀那如果沒有的話那就當然就打回來那我現在在想說今天這一個案子是提請民眾黨團這邊來召開協商那今天因為"},{"start":3154.594,"end":3176.609,"text":"民進黨沒有出席他們連簽到也沒有那就等於是這一個協商會是連開都沒有辦法開成那既然沒有辦法開成的話那是持續在這邊做Pending呢還是說就變成是民眾黨團可能已經開了但是沒有辦法開成那再給院長室那請院長再召開等於是更高位階再召開這個黨團之間協商"},{"start":3178.49,"end":3203.747,"text":"那剛好因為我們國民黨團也有在持續的要求我剛一開始就開宗明義就講說雙軌並行就我們有持續要求就是針對2月19號請院長召開的這個食安專報的一個協商其實那一次雖然說這個休息時間這個沒有辦法有達成一個共識但持續那個協商還是進行中啦也因此呢我們也希望院長能夠在明天或後天"},{"start":3204.327,"end":3223.64,"text":"趕快來確定院長的時間也可以請求院長再召開我們的協商所以我剛也負責任的也簽名了因為我覺得說只要能夠越快越好的請民進黨政府尤其是這個行政院院長率相關部會首長來做食品安全專案報告講清楚"},{"start":3224.48,"end":3245.537,"text":"我們好好認認真真的質詢把所有國人的問題點出來讓他們官員在備詢台上留下文字記錄的回答如果有任何的錯誤的地方抱歉這是有刑責的尤其是我們在這個會期一定會加強我們的國會的一個相關的一個這個重視的一個權限"},{"start":3246.997,"end":3274.553,"text":"好所以我還是強調就是說今天的這個運作因為我不知道說我們有沒有議事人員可以來說明那不過沒關係我說即便沒有我想近期內院長應該禮拜三或禮拜四他等院長辦公室通知我們也黨團還會再做協商那我們的立場很一致就是我們希望就國民黨團啦希望盡速召開協商越快越好能夠加開這個食品安全專報的院會以上謝謝"},{"start":3284.764,"end":3297.292,"text":"非常謝謝孟考遠議員提出來的問題今天因為民主進步黨黨團沒有派代表出席顯然沒有辦法針對明天"},{"start":3299.059,"end":3323.286,"text":"能夠加開院會的這件事情形成共識但這件事情民主進步黨竟然已經要求要協商因此我們會把今天的這個狀況我回去我會請黨團的同仁立刻發文給院長以及議事處的同仁第一個跟他們說明今天召開黨團協商的狀態"},{"start":3325.467,"end":3349.778,"text":"那第二個看是請院長能夠競速的針對食安報告的這件事情由院長來召集協商那看因為我現在是有一點不太確定因為我早上聽陳建仁院長的意思是他其實很樂意來只不過民主進步黨黨團好像有不太一樣的看法"},{"start":3351.419,"end":3367.53,"text":"也沒有關係我們就尊重各個黨團他們各自的立場跟各自的意見所以我們會發函給院長讓院長第一個跟院長說明一下今天協商的狀況我們會再次的促請"},{"start":3368.411,"end":3388.447,"text":"是不是由院長這邊針對他本來就已經答應中國國民黨黨團針對食安專報的這件事情要召開一個協商合併來加以舉行那我覺得與其在這些規則上面的事情打轉不如趕快"},{"start":3389.187,"end":3417.198,"text":"解決實質的問題解決實質的問題就是讓我們的執政黨能夠說清楚講明白到底什麼時候願意到立法院來進行報告那我想做這樣子的處理不曉得今天兩位黨團的代表是不是可以同意可以嗎沒有問題 謝謝好 非常謝謝孟凱兄那也非常謝謝村城兄那我們今天很遺憾因為"},{"start":3419.025,"end":3436.404,"text":"民主進步黨黨團沒有派人來但是我想藉由這樣子一個程序我們還是很誠心的跟我們中國國民黨黨團的代表以及台灣民眾黨黨團的代表來充分的溝通交換意見好 那謝謝 謝謝大家 謝謝"},{"start":3460.787,"end":3464.11,"text":"委員會主席"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}