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謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:07.787000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:13.451000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我就比照剛剛吳委員，差兩分鐘。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:13.451000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:14.812000+08:00","text":"我們都一致，就是一分鐘……","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:15.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:19.776000+08:00","text":"對，因為剛剛我看時間多了兩分鐘，你也是給他講……","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:19.776000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:20.776000+08:00","text":"我都是……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:19.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:21.717000+08:00","text":"那我這兩分鐘要談什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:21.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:25.100000+08:00","text":"就是談現在民進黨他們一直要拗。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:25.960000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:34.488000+08:00","text":"我在財委會，就是這次的財劃法，我跟大家報告，今年超徵4,000億元，部長昨天才報告的。","quality":0.853},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:36.090000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:40.213000+08:00","text":"年年超徵，結果他把超徵的錢拿去哪裡？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:40.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:41.814000+08:00","text":"給台電。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:41.814000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:43.856000+08:00","text":"錯誤的政策比貪污可怕100倍。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:44.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:24:56.685000+08:00","text":"所以說我們現在回歸正道，這是25年從來沒有修過的，因為財劃法本來就要修，而且中央現在拿多少？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:24:58.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:03.889000+08:00","text":"72%，地方28%，現在分配是6比4，很公平、很客觀。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:03.889000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:06.791000+08:00","text":"而且教育的預算都有編列。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:07.531000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:12.254000+08:00","text":"不要在今天各大校長來的時候，用這樣來拗、這樣來騙。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:12.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:19.638000+08:00","text":"我跟大家報告，我們希望整個國家均衡地發展，各縣市都一樣。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:20.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:25.862000+08:00","text":"因為我是資深的委員，這些年來，它把很多錢給臺南、給高雄去治水。","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:26.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:28.504000+08:00","text":"你看高雄淹水淹得多嚴重！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:29.304000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:31.065000+08:00","text":"我跟大家報告，問題一籮筐！","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:32.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:39.330000+08:00","text":"我們希望各地方能夠均衡地發展，所以說我們今天一定要講話。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:39.330000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:43.673000+08:00","text":"不能讓你在今天所有校長都來的時候，然後來硬拗、來騙這些校長。","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:45.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:51.116000+08:00","text":"而且你每一年的教育預算都有編列，今年超徵4,000億元。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:51.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:56.637000+08:00","text":"這幾年超徵加起來的最少有2兆元，但是它補助台電多少？","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:57.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:25:58.118000+08:00","text":"你們去給它查看看。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:25:58.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:26:00.939000+08:00","text":"一個錯誤的政策比貪污可怕100倍！","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:26:01.699000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:26:02.439000+08:00","text":"鄭部長，你請上來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-11-14T12:26:02.499000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:26:02.519000+08:00","text":"鄭部長請。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:26:08.837000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:26:25.689000+08:00","text":"部長，美國職業棒球大聯盟知名的球星大谷翔平50轟50盜的紀錄，第50號的全壘打球昨天也在臺北101觀景臺「夢想高飛」特展展出。","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:26:28.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:26:34.264000+08:00","text":"2028美國洛杉磯奧運確定要將棒球重納入比賽的項目。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:26:34.885000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:26:50.894000+08:00","text":"為了促進臺灣的棒球發展，本席希望教育部提供機會給國內青棒、少棒的學生前往臺北101參觀這獨一無二、深具意義的棒球。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2024-11-14T12:26:51.794000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-14T12:26:52.555000+08:00","text":"請問部長你的看法呢？","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