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我要跟你講的是嘉義縣他現在老年人口比例老化的程度是全國第一名了是"},{"start":301.826,"end":329.801,"text":"就是它將近快23%了所以它的確它的那個服務量能需求非常的高但是嘉義縣財政是列在第5級又是一個財政比較困難的一個縣市所以這個部分我希望這個衛福部回去之後你們調整一下就是主動去關心一下嘉義縣他們這個長照看起來這個量能是不夠的交通方面因為它有18個鄉鎮市所以它浮揚非常大那交通的部分我希望在交通車方面這個服務量能"},{"start":331.042,"end":331.602,"text":"委員長王一鳴委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:16:20+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:16:24.708500+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請交通部伍次長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-11-20T16:16:24.708500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:16:29.417000+08:00","text":"伍次長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:16:29.417000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:16:29.637000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:16:30.498000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:16:30.778000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:16:30.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:16:43.830000+08:00","text":"次長，我今天要問你關於嘉義縣市鐵路高架化的延伸計畫，目前在前瞻裡面總金額是173.48億，到113年7月底為止，它的分配數是1.55億，執行0.55億，執行率是35.48%，為什麼這個執行率現在只有三成五？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:16:57.718000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:02.840000+08:00","text":"剛剛講的是我們延伸到民雄段這部分嘛？對。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:02.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:10.264000+08:00","text":"它前面招標有點delay，後面大概我們可以掌握到明年五體標的開工，沒有問題。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:10.644000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:15.706000+08:00","text":"因為這整個計畫是2028年要全面完工喔！對，是。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:15.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:18.508000+08:00","text":"目前你這個進度看起來是落後的，2028可以順利完工嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:18.508000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:19.508000+08:00","text":"後面可以，沒問題。","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:18.548000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:18.708000+08:00","text":"沒有問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:18.708000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:19.128000+08:00","text":"打包票？是。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:22.950000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:17:39.893000+08:00","text":"好，另外一個，我要問的就是除了民雄這一段的高架化之外，通往嘉義市再往下走的水上，水上這一段其實也需要鐵路高架化，但是之前好幾次都被你們交通部打回票。","quality":0.956},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:17:40.814000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:00.004000+08:00","text":"李孟諺部長在8月份有到現場看過，開會的時候他當場允諾要重啟這一個高架化的評估方案，我上次也問過了現在的部長，陳部長也有允諾回去要討論。","quality":0.887},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:00.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:01.605000+08:00","text":"目前這個案子，你們的進度怎麼樣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:03.248000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:07.530000+08:00","text":"現在我們所瞭解，因為這部分是要由嘉義縣政府提出……","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:07.651000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:09.752000+08:00","text":"有，縣長也說他要提出來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:09.752000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:11.112000+08:00","text":"對，這部分我們會來協助他。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:11.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:22.578000+08:00","text":"好，這個部分，因為涉及到重啟評估的費用還滿高的，是不是交通部在前瞻的預算裡面也可以酌予補助？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:23.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:31.960000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，因為過去大平臺大概都有補助過，不過我想我們全力來支持，回去討論一下，盡量來補助它。","quality":0.767},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:32.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:48.283000+08:00","text":"我希望次長就這一部分來協助，因為嘉義縣是財政困難的縣市，但是它現在有遇到一個契機就是台積電要進駐，所以它整個的發展是起飛的，包括人口，我相信未來也會成長，所以在交通方面的需求很大。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:48.283000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:53.934167+08:00","text":"陳部長上個禮拜到嘉義市參加軍輝橋的通車典禮，它是串聯嘉義縣市很重要的橋梁，他也說未來會重視整個區域的發展，他說這個也是賴總統的政見。","quality":0.258},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:53.934167+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:18:59.585333+08:00","text":"你們有接收到這樣的訊息嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:18:59.585333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:19:05.236500+08:00","text":"未來要均衡區域發展，是吧？","quality":0},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2024-11-20T16:19:05.236500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:19:10.887667+08:00","text":"會，我們會全力支持。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:19:10.887667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:19:16.538833+08:00","text":"好，謝謝次長，嘉義縣這個部分很需要你們全力來支持。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員育敏","start":"2024-11-20T16:19:16.538833+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-11-20T16:19:22.190000+08:00","text":"接下來，我請衛福部。","quality":0.125},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-11-20T16:19:22.190000+08:0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