{"error":false,"id":["157337"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":157337,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157337","日期":"2024-11-21","會議資料":null,"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2024-11-21T11:50:59+08:00","結束時間":"2024-11-21T12:00:51+08:00","影片長度":"00:09:52","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fc78d56ce4a63752c476ee2d1d2121dd868a4ad55ac2447b74ba16637283b6cc468a1eea278b59595ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"王美惠","委員發言時間":"11:50:59 - 12:00:51","會議時間":"2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"（變更議程）立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、\t審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二、\t審查委員馬文君等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。三、\t審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「國土計畫法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。四、\t審查委員林思銘等18人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。五、\t審查委員許宇甄等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。六、\t審查委員呂玉玲等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。七、\t審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。八、\t審查委員陳超明等20人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。九、\t審查委員丁學忠等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十、\t審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「國土計畫法第七條、第三十五條及第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員張嘉郡等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十二、\t審查委員劉建國等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十三、審查委員邱鎮軍等21人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十四、\t審查委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十五、\t審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十六、\t審查委員柯志恩等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十七、\t審查委員楊瓊瓔等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十八、\t審查委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十九、\t審查委員王育敏等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十、\t審查委員黃建賓等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十一、\t審查委員張智倫等18人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十二、\t審查委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十條條文修正草案」案。二十三、\t審查委員林岱樺等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十四、\t審查委員涂權吉等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十五、\t審查委員魯明哲等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十六、\t審查委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十條條文修正草案」案。二十七、\t審查委員劉建國等17人擬具「國土計畫法第八條及第四十五條條文修正草案」案。   【第二十四案，如經復議，則不予審查；第二十五至二十七案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查。】）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":4.26659375,"end":8.82284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9.278468750000002,"end":10.78034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":10.93221875,"end":11.30346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":17.96909375,"end":20.68596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":18.67784375,"end":20.80409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":20.80409375,"end":20.88846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":21.07409375,"end":24.06096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":24.16221875,"end":26.71034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":27.21659375,"end":31.570343750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":31.941593750000003,"end":33.62909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":34.30409375,"end":35.02971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":35.41784375,"end":39.822218750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":40.463468750000004,"end":41.67846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":41.98221875,"end":44.22659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":44.71596875,"end":46.84221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":47.43284375,"end":49.87971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":50.23409375,"end":53.28846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":54.149093750000006,"end":54.65534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":55.46534375,"end":57.35534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":58.485968750000005,"end":60.64596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":60.915968750000005,"end":62.41784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":63.025343750000005,"end":63.48096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":64.10534375,"end":64.74659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":65.03346875,"end":66.14721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":66.45096875,"end":71.56409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":72.07034375,"end":72.89721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":73.16721875,"end":76.94721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":77.72346875000001,"end":90.48096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":90.63284375,"end":92.35409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":92.82659375,"end":94.80096875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":94.86846875,"end":96.43784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":96.72471875000001,"end":102.10784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":102.27659375,"end":103.74471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":103.93034375,"end":106.95096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":106.37721875000001,"end":106.78221875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":107.17034375,"end":118.59471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":107.25471875000001,"end":107.96346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":118.72971875,"end":125.71596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":126.07034375,"end":128.80409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":128.95596875,"end":129.90096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":130.18784375,"end":132.95534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":133.17471875,"end":133.52909375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":134.50784375,"end":139.46909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":139.90784375,"end":142.57409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":142.81034375000002,"end":154.96034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":148.59846875000002,"end":148.85159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":155.43284375000002,"end":158.82471875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":158.89221875,"end":164.74784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":162.28409375,"end":162.40221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":162.40221875,"end":162.48659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":162.48659375,"end":162.50346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":165.20346875,"end":166.60409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":167.46471875,"end":169.96221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":170.28284375,"end":171.91971875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":170.35034375,"end":170.58659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":172.00409375,"end":175.02471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":175.32846875,"end":176.83034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":177.04971875,"end":178.61909375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":178.88909375,"end":184.40721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":184.98096875000002,"end":190.78596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":186.90471875,"end":187.84971875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":190.88721875000002,"end":192.92909375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":193.23284375,"end":194.54909375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":194.75159375,"end":195.57846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":195.93284375000002,"end":198.19409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":198.51471875000001,"end":206.02409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":203.50971875000002,"end":208.75784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":209.58471875,"end":210.14159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":210.71534375000002,"end":223.52346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":223.67534375000002,"end":224.06346875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":224.58659375000002,"end":231.26909375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":230.23971875,"end":232.51784375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":231.57284375,"end":238.33971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":237.46221875,"end":237.78284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":238.49159375000002,"end":247.80659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":240.53346875000003,"end":240.66846875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":241.20846875,"end":241.54596875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":248.54909375000003,"end":249.76409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":248.63346875000002,"end":253.49346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":253.52721875,"end":254.18534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":254.40471875000003,"end":261.37409375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":261.25596875,"end":262.08284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":262.13346875,"end":264.46221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":264.68159375,"end":265.74471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":266.21721875000003,"end":266.65596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":267.02721875000003,"end":276.94971875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":277.08471875000004,"end":282.41721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":282.28221875,"end":299.68034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":282.82221875,"end":283.34534375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":300.00096875,"end":302.76846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":303.15659375,"end":305.26596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":305.51909375,"end":308.91096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":309.65346875,"end":310.07534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":310.73346875000004,"end":312.70784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":313.11284375,"end":314.49659375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":314.98596875000004,"end":316.36971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":316.77471875000003,"end":319.72784375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":319.84596875,"end":323.99721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":324.26721875000004,"end":325.41471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":325.87034375,"end":328.65471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":330.24096875000004,"end":335.43846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":335.67471875,"end":368.09159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":338.23971875,"end":338.59409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":344.68596875000003,"end":345.07409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":351.09846875,"end":351.25034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":351.25034375,"end":351.26721875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":351.26721875000004,"end":351.40221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":368.24346875000003,"end":376.96784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":372.63096875,"end":373.06971875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":376.96784375000004,"end":384.61221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":384.89909375,"end":388.18971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":388.57784375,"end":389.18534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":389.69159375000004,"end":397.28534375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":398.58471875000004,"end":399.02346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":399.02346875,"end":399.37784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":399.74909375000004,"end":399.85034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":399.85034375000004,"end":423.54284375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":423.71159375,"end":471.82221875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":423.96471875000003,"end":424.25159375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":426.71534375000005,"end":427.00221875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":431.89596875,"end":432.33471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":435.94596875,"end":436.80659375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":437.09346875000006,"end":437.88659375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":470.26971875000004,"end":535.10346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":535.4072187500001,"end":542.0390937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":542.0390937500001,"end":575.7553437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":543.35534375,"end":543.9965937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":544.36784375,"end":544.7390937499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":549.8859687500001,"end":550.27409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":558.17159375,"end":558.6272187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":574.16909375,"end":575.7890937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":575.7890937500001,"end":576.97034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":576.97034375,"end":588.5972187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":578.82659375,"end":579.06284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":579.90659375,"end":580.19346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":580.2778437500001,"end":580.5815937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":580.9865937500001,"end":581.1215937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":587.23034375,"end":588.5803437500001}],"whisperx":[{"start":4.318,"end":10.959,"text":"國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案。四、 INTERVIEWER審查委員王偉源等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案。三、 INTERVIEWER審查委員王偉源等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案。四、 INTERVIEWER審查委員王偉源等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案。"},{"start":34.352,"end":39.077,"text":"文修正草案案。四十五條條文修正草案案。五十五條條文修正草案案。五十五條條文修正草案案。"},{"start":58.507,"end":61.97,"text":"委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條"},{"start":77.602,"end":83.423,"text":"審查委員馬文君等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。四、сколько審查委員馬文君等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。四、сколько審查委員馬文君等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。四、сколько審查委員馬文君等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條條文修正草案案〉案。四、сколько審查委員馬文君等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條條文修正草案案〉案。四、сколько審查委員馬文君等16人�"},{"start":107.268,"end":109.049,"text":"委員吳琪銘等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。二、 INTERVIEWER審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。"},{"start":134.834,"end":141.758,"text":"確實就是像委員他所提起的,很多人就是歡樂說過去五十年是為了做農地,現在又繼續為了做農地,是不是我的這個"},{"start":147.062,"end":148.023,"text":"條文修正草案案案件 。"},{"start":167.503,"end":174.744,"text":"文修正草案案例如我開發工業區或是個人在鄉村區旁邊我有藍色的地可以統出來,這樣可以種出來建地,當然可以透過這個方法,若不透過農地重圍,農村社區重圍,它可以蓋一些建地。這個過去開的計畫時代,確實就是這樣,但是這個計畫我們在這個規定當中,我們參加讀取計畫的改良,讓地方政府可以有"},{"start":196.027,"end":207.873,"text":"全體過去的鄉村地區居民可以讓有一些土地開發幾位的這個權益。來。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂多在這個時間頂多靠這個權益。頂"},{"start":224.722,"end":232.23,"text":"所以為什麼過去,過去是不關關的好壞啦,因為開的結尾就是一個抹掉,現在變成說不是關的問題,是說我們是在這個完喻的正頭,主委,可以開始做這個規劃,這樣的話呢,可以讓這個鄉村地區,因為我們這個政客所在,很多我們在說的,人口多,因為土地"},{"start":248.655,"end":255.702,"text":"所以你現在說的就是北省的黨員覺得說有關的沒關的,如果中央要做的跟黨員政府要做的,未來這個地還要多久?因為北省就是反而說,跟我的地,"},{"start":267.112,"end":269.473,"text":"事由．審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案"},{"start":283.058,"end":288.18,"text":"因為這段時間可能沒辦法解釋得很清楚,是最主要北省最反落的,我們盡量去解釋給地方可以去選擇,去讓這裡的農民說,尤其我擔憂的就是說,不管我們有贏或沒有贏,像剛才蘇說的,有四、五個關,"},{"start":310.779,"end":323.616,"text":"條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條"},{"start":330.23,"end":330.39,"text":"委員吳琪銘等16人擬具"},{"start":345.835,"end":346.116,"text":"國土計畫法第四十五條條"},{"start":363.857,"end":369.381,"text":"因為他們本來在那四年間就已經把他們的國土計畫、管制的國土計畫都已經送來中央啊。所以我們都可以對照,說他們動車的時候跟現在的功能分區圖對還是不對。這樣補充我直接來請教一下,他們這三四的管制、兩三的管制,那電池九四位三十五號的高,你、我們"},{"start":389.776,"end":392.502,"text":"國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案。"},{"start":398.649,"end":418.759,"text":"管理會合法嗎?會太順嗎?會太順嗎?我要跟委員講的部分就是說因為整個全國的國土計畫它就是在限制說全國譬如說農地它的上下限是多少那如果你已經交上來的話呢我們就可以先做分這個管理譬如說你在農地多少、建地多少可以做一個比較好配合國土計畫配合中台的這個公共建設那它如果不夠的話就變成它們不參與這是一種公法"},{"start":428.504,"end":428.704,"text":"條文修正草案案。"},{"start":451.67,"end":456.475,"text":"那一併要不要拿掉的部分的話就是必須要配套措施也必須要每個縣市政府都同意要不然我們會對不起已經送上國土計畫功能分區圖到內政部來審查了這些縣市政府因為他們也很辛苦他們的公聽會、說明會、演講等等也都是上百上千場的因為北京我現在就是說"},{"start":473.43,"end":473.85,"text":"國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案。"},{"start":500.583,"end":502.585,"text":"所以我跟吳孟說,我們是不是擬一個,要不然擬,不是搖搖無恥說一直擬、一直擬是不是要有一個牽制,在這兩三個月要如何處理才是最重要啦。不然說擬的時候,你我想法都一樣,如果擬,因為擬不完我們也沒辦法去完成"},{"start":525.623,"end":525.903,"text":"國土計畫法第四十五條條"},{"start":542.972,"end":543.973,"text":"條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文宣告"},{"start":558.56,"end":566.486,"text":"審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條"},{"start":586.762,"end":586.903,"text":"探討一詳。謝謝。"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}