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考選部就能解決相關的問題"},{"start":961.581,"end":980.4,"text":"考選部若沒有及時的一個因應措施﹖對症下藥﹖未來缺乏心血的這種情況﹖可能會更加的嚴重那以院級的角度來看待這個問題您認為該如何來提高逆世代來報考我們公職的一個意願"},{"start":983.154,"end":1008.747,"text":"我想一部分剛剛已經說過了我們怎麼樣讓有一個更友善讓年輕人進入部門覺得他有發揮的施展的空間而選擇留下來這部分很重要了所以當然相關的縣市人員的待遇政府也一直在調整這幾年已經調整了11%明年一定要調整4%多多少少都會有幫助都會有正向幫助那這個"},{"start":1010.715,"end":1025.673,"text":"跟學校的部分我們也在加強合作以前大概很少跟考選部大概很少跟大學做合作考選部以前就是把考試辦好就好那大學生要不要來考國教考試大學生自己決定"},{"start":1026.695,"end":1027.496,"text":"副院長：副院長：邱文彥："},{"start":1043.996,"end":1068.328,"text":"的部分也需要人才也需要學校重視所以我們也已經開始跟學校這個就業部門來合作讓他們知道我們公務體系相關的一些遭受的這個資訊那這個在公務機關的部分我們也希望公務機關能夠協助走入校園現身搜法說你這個公務機關在做什麼"},{"start":1069.332,"end":1089.194,"text":"讓他更了解他進入公部門的意義在哪裡他能夠幫人民做什麼事情不是來考試而已他可以做有價值的事情那這個在日本事實上也已經這樣做了日本的各部門在招公務人員事實上他們已經跑到企業前面去了企業還沒到大學去之前他們已經先去了"},{"start":1089.935,"end":1111.589,"text":"所以我想搶人才是這個公司部門大家都很努力的那我們公部門在這一方面我想還有很多可以琢磨的地方我們也會持續再來努力那透過縣級的角度來協助部會應該也會有更有琢磨的空間好 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