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你好一個政治中立那我就要告訴你我要告訴你也提醒提名人法律不是為政治服務的它更不能成為酬庸或者是有關係就沒關係部分黨派超然中立呢一定要謹記在心"},{"start":1019.195,"end":1035.282,"text":"是當然是好一個是所以我也希望在擔任上大法官的時候你不是只有聽從賴清德先生也不是只有聽從民進黨的賴議大法官黨議大法官可以承諾嗎當然接下來可以承諾我們來討論貪污的問題立場的問題"},{"start":1039.344,"end":1058.9,"text":"民進黨執政的時候多次傳出了這些貪污跟違法的爭議讓社會大眾有很大的一個疑慮但是我們看到目前為止民進黨的內部或高層的貪污我們看到社會大眾對於司法機關的處理不管是它的速度"},{"start":1059.8,"end":1081.593,"text":"或者是結果都表示疑慮在這樣的情況之下就陳儒臺原綠能的前董事長陳啓裕重大的案件臺南地檢申請羈押但是到了法院他說什麼他罪證不足所以就當庭釋放然後呢在看告的時候呢才會這個這個這個因為他不到庭所以呢在11月4號才發布通這個這個這個通緝"},{"start":1084.975,"end":1105.282,"text":"那院檢雙方遭質疑的時候就是說你沒有科技監控你也沒有延遲而且延遲開庭你縱容了這些縱容這些犯罪者可以脫逃在這樣的一個情況之下本席要請教社會大眾的這些判決你認為有道理嗎"},{"start":1107.24,"end":1135.849,"text":"我想社會一定會關心各種的可能的貪污你認為有道理嗎當然社會會關心這個貪污的案件社會大眾有道理嗎你認為社會大眾的質疑有道理嗎就是他一定會關心各種的可能的你認為有沒有道理社會大眾關心一定是有道理的一定是有道理好一個有道理所以本期要請教你認為司法院的角色要怎麼樣去改善這些案件的處理呢請做說明"},{"start":1136.626,"end":1143.672,"text":"請針對你現在是被提名者提出你的論述本席願意時間給你說明你要就你自己的一個論述嘛你一直提到所有的相關機關難怪很多人說你是高層啊"},{"start":1164.325,"end":1170.326,"text":"因為他是個案檢察官的偵查還有個案法院的判決這個部分的話應該由獨立的司法機關包括檢察官跟法院去做處理我們應該要尊重司法的獨立"},{"start":1187.91,"end":1190.23,"text":"你通通都不回答你通通都沒答出啊"},{"start":1213.268,"end":1231.213,"text":"所以本席再次請教你會不會繼續的推動終極廢死現在大概以現在狀況我剛才說的我們就處於大概第一個階段是把死刑限縮到那個非提名人請看看社會的氛圍民眾的需求"},{"start":1240.784,"end":1243.375,"text":"謝謝楊委員也謝謝貝廷宇人接下來請張啓楷委員詢問"},{"start":1276.628,"end":1279.852,"text":"德甲出現．貝提名人請調貝提名人答詢早貝提名人"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}