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Eats跟foodpanda這個案子，現在你沒有通過，大家很認同，但是我跟你說，生意人有好幾種，不然我就買它的股權，不然我就用私募基金的形式，我們行政院龔秘書長在國發會的時候就在推動私募基金，所以做生意的方法很多，臺灣人也不要高興，這個外國的大公司在做結合的時候，我看你也控制不了，也會像高通一樣，這個請注意一下，如果它用私募基金或是私下把它股權買到51%、52%，一個公司，兩套人馬，暗中運作出來，你要如何去應付？","quality":0.76},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2024-12-30T09:59:08.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T09:59:15.275000+08:00","text":"這是你要面對的問題，現在沒有結合，但是有各種手段能做結合。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2024-12-30T09:59:15.635000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T09:59:17.777000+08:00","text":"召委，你不是腳麻痺嗎？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2024-12-30T09:59:17.777000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T09:59:19.277000+08:00","text":"怎麼那麼快站起來，好啦，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-12-30T09:59:25.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T09:59:25.547000+08:00","text":"謝謝陳超明委員，時間掌握得非常好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-12-30T09:59:26.047000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T09:59:31.475571+08:00","text":"因為本席擔任主席，所以本席的質詢改為書面。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-12-30T09:59:31.775571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T09:59:33.775571+08:00","text":"下一位請黃國昌。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}