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","quality":1},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:45:53.195000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:46:02.523333+08:00","text":"你也推廣不好嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2024-12-30T10:46:02.523333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:46:11.851667+08:00","text":"假使說這麼多年來……","quality":0},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:46:11.851667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:46:21.180000+08:00","text":"你的困難，你去地方在跟地方溝通的時候，像你在發言的時候，應該要聽聽我們地方如何把這件事情做好，不只是學習的……","quality":0},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2024-12-30T10:46:21.180000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:46:30.508333+08:00","text":"這麼多年來……在推動客家的……已經提高很多了。","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:46:30.508333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:46:39.836667+08:00","text":"學習沒有達到我們的目標，還有預算，還有許多我們的學生、老師，還有客家語的老師，你覺得現在資源足嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2024-12-30T10:46:39.836667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:46:49.165000+08:00","text":"我想麥委員剛才講的沒有效，我們不認同，因為很多地方，包括地方政府、鄉鎮公所還有我們的學校，都在共同努力推動，所以麥委員講沒有效，我十分不認同，大家都很努力，還有我們的薪傳師都很努力要把我們的語言文化傳下去，所以我們的預算要拜託委員來幫忙我們……","quality":0.055},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:46:49.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:46:50.286000+08:00","text":"所以我才說這是你主要的工作，我是要求你主要的工作要去做，不是去講什麼、什麼「五四三」的。","quality":0.605},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:47:16.539000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:47:18.440000+08:00","text":"要針對主要的工作，你要報告你們的預算要怎樣跟地方合作去做主要的工作，還有我們的師資，要如何有足夠的師資來配合各個學校去推廣客家語言？","quality":0.677},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:47:18.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:47:19.180000+08:00","text":"師資又不足，大家的學習意願也不足，編列的預算卻越來越多，這樣誰能認同，對不對？","quality":0.412},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:47:42.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:48:02.914000+08:00","text":"這個就是我們今天要跟你講的你主要的工作，還有我們的文化不要斷，還有很多教授、很多人跟你建議要怎麼做才能達到效果，我希望別人的建議，或者你要去做問卷調查，為什麼我們這個沒有做好、為什麼很多人沒有去學習？","quality":0.413},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:48:02.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:48:03.295000+08:00","text":"這個才是真正我們要去審預算的重點。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:48:03.315000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:48:32.926000+08:00","text":"整個客家委員會要把該推廣的去做好，才是你該做的工作，不要去干涉其他的、你沒辦法決定的，不要去帶風向或是去跟著政黨的宣傳，要去做你該做的職務。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"麥委員玉珍","start":"2024-12-30T10:48:32.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:48:33.106000+08:00","text":"以上報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2024-12-30T10:48:33.106000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:48:34.106000+08:00","text":"我們都是針對師資來講，感謝麥委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-12-30T10:48:33.246000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-12-30T10:48:33.507000+08:00","text":"接下來請黃建賓委員。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-12-30T10:48:34.007000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-12-30T10:48:38.864143+08:00","text":"黃建賓委員質詢完之後，我們就休息5分鐘。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}