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歐史傑團就是獨立的 沒有當時因為疫情期間所以人很少 大家往前嘛所以就在比較前面那這一次就是我們也有就是受到邀請包括我們余大雷大使當然我們整個團那麼多人嘛我們會找最適合的地點因為那個邀請含有一個分區那我也跟委員報告其實這個總統請這個韓院長率團並不是組團"},{"start":694.517,"end":718.573,"text":"這個組團還是要尊重我們比如說這個曹也這個立法委員所以現在是221啦然後後來因為硬是後來又變更要增加兩位就是台美是國會議員的這個友好的協會那我們的美處也是很努力在設法去達成所以我們希望說不要再變動能夠以這個來進行所以座位就可以認定我們跟台美的關係對吧"},{"start":719.634,"end":737.506,"text":"最主要是我們跨黨派呈現大家台灣團結然後重視台美關係是這一點那也不只是當天的就職典禮啦我們其他的拜訪啦還有一些參會啦應該是都會促進台美是都已經安排好了嗎都有在安排中了OK 好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:11.369000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:12.469000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請林部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:12.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:12.569000+08:00","text":"請林部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:12.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:12.690000+08:00","text":"部長新年快樂。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:12.690000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:13.690000+08:00","text":"委員快樂。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:12.690000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:14.510000+08:00","text":"先請教部長一個政治方面的問題，你覺得現在你比較喜歡為國家拚外交、當外交部長，還是比較喜歡回去臺中當臺中市長，還是你有比較屬意的適當臺中市長人選呢？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:40.690000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:41.870000+08:00","text":"臺中市長我已經當過了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:43.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:49.672000+08:00","text":"因為上次看新聞好像你也有意願想要再回去當臺中市長，是不是？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:49.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:24:52.672000+08:00","text":"我沒有聽說！好啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:24:53.952000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:07.815000+08:00","text":"請問，這一年來，其實大家都不看好你這樣一個外交門外漢擔任外交部長，但是從你剛才的書面報告和口頭報告，部長對於自己這一年來在外交上的表現你會打幾分呢？","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:08.901000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:25.615000+08:00","text":"我不給自己打分數，只有人民跟我的長官可以打分數，不過我的同仁，就我聽到的，現在士氣還滿高的，當然我們對於外交同仁怎麼樣去發揮、讓工作環境有一些改善……","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:26.976000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:29.378000+08:00","text":"部長，你這樣有一點謙虛，你這樣是連分數都不敢為自己打！","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:32.066000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:32.987000+08:00","text":"對，因為我才剛上任……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:32.987000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:34.608000+08:00","text":"可是你那麼努力……","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:34.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:40.894000+08:00","text":"如果這是跑馬拉松，現在只是前面剛起跑而已，所以現在不能打分數。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:41.075000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:41.835000+08:00","text":"你覺得自己有達90分嗎？","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:43.352000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:25:44.112000+08:00","text":"你覺得你的努力……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:25:44.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:26:28.181000+08:00","text":"我覺得還沒有能夠打分數，因為其實外交也是累積的，也是要大家各方面來努力，但是我有幾個戰役要跟委員分享，比方說我們在太平洋島國論壇（PIF）中，老共本來要把我們排除，但我們參加了；包括南非要我們遷館，我們還是先挺住了；在今年APEC當中，其實中共為了要申辦2026年會議，已經用盡各種方法想把我們邊緣化，但是我們還是把它拉到APEC來做對等的談判，所以我認為外交是點點滴滴。","quality":0.892},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:26:28.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:00.935000+08:00","text":"當然邦交國我大概都走了一趟，這12個邦交國怎麼樣去固邦、榮邦、拓邦；我們跟大國的關係，特別是我們臺美，還有與日本、歐盟之間的關係，特別像是2758號決議，包括歐洲的議會還有各國的國會現在也都通過了；美國國務院有很清楚的四點說明，可以說我們賴總統上任之後，他標舉所謂的價值外交跟經濟日不落國等這些政策方向我們都有在推動。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:01.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:02.575000+08:00","text":"看起來部長覺得你自己也是做得不錯……","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:03.136000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:03.276000+08:00","text":"沒有出錯啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:03.376000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:03.696000+08:00","text":"不能說是做得不錯！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:03.716000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:05.137000+08:00","text":"好，我們一起為臺灣努力，一起讓世界看到臺灣，這才比較重要。是。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:05.237000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:34.031000+08:00","text":"部長，你還記得3年前的四大公投，從蔡前總統還有蘇前院長，還有前駐美代表，也就是現在的副總統蕭美琴、前外交部長吳釗燮，還有經濟部長王美花都大聲的疾呼，假如反萊豬公投通過，我國就沒有辦法加入CPTPP，部長，我們現在回頭看，那時候執政黨是不是話講得太滿了呢？","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:34.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:35.192000+08:00","text":"因為3年過去了，我們現在已經開放了萊豬，但是現在還是沒有辦法加入啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:35.212000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:55.972000+08:00","text":"而且11月30號的時候，CPTPP的執委會落幕，主席國加拿大也宣布了哥斯大黎加將成為下一個準會員國，臺灣和中國大陸的申請都是被擱置的，部長上一次在我們委員會審查預算時也表示，新加坡對臺灣其實抱持著支持的立場，但是強度不見得相同；但是馬來西亞也沒有反對臺灣加入，你覺得為什麼是這樣的結果呢？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:27:56.052000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:27:56.292000+08:00","text":"還有，我們到底有沒有機會加入？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:28:16.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:28:51.44100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D. Larson即AIT人員都有陪同，而且這裡不只是度假，是生態保育跟影視、觀光成功結合的案例，所以我們去了解。","quality":0.645},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:05.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:11.813000+08:00","text":"至於去看夏威夷州防災中心……","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:13.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:14.174000+08:00","text":"為什麼會後沒有記者會？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:15.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:19.633000+08:00","text":"但是有報導，也有相片，我們後續也啟動很多合作。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:19.953000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:21.234000+08:00","text":"但是不是應該有記者會讓大家都知道呢？","quality":0.529},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:21.694000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:28.737000+08:00","text":"有記者在，記者也有照相，只是記者沒有進去，因為防災中心設備有一定的機密性。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:29.558000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:31.479000+08:00","text":"我看報告上寫得很清楚……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:31.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:35.801000+08:00","text":"我進出時有看到記者架著麥克風和攝影機……","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:36.201000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:39.462000+08:00","text":"我們跟美國地方政府其實有密切關係，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:39.462000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:40.683000+08:00","text":"因為我們今天也在上面……","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:40.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:41.904000+08:00","text":"你看，我們國旗有在上面……","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:42.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:46.748000+08:00","text":"但州長都沒有陪同，所以關係真的是像外交部說的……","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:47.108000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:32:51.392000+08:00","text":"有，州長陪同的時間應該是史上最長的，不過還是看場合而定。","quality":0.76},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:32:52.053000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:04.924000+08:00","text":"像我們到關島，總督邀請我們去官邸，而且不管是放國旗還是唱國歌……我覺得單點去看會看不準，應該整體來看。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:05.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:13.831000+08:00","text":"臺美關係是建立在互信的基礎上，有很良好的溝通，至於該怎麼做，大家都很有共識。","quality":0.853},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:13.991000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:17.994000+08:00","text":"這次很順利的就是，我們前面的溝通做得很好。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:18.755000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:21.457000+08:00","text":"還有，見不到在地的聯邦議員就算了，因為賴總統有打電話給美國聯邦眾議員前議長裴洛西……","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:21.637000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:21.977000+08:00","text":"有，國會議員就坐在我旁邊，也有參加僑宴。","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:28.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:31.824000+08:00","text":"裴洛西是美國總統當選人川普最大的敵人，我們打電話……","quality":0.696},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:32.124000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:32.684000+08:00","text":"那是在夏威夷，到了關島就報導另外一位……","quality":0.647},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:32.744000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:32.964000+08:00","text":"有報導另外一位？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:33.065000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:33.745000+08:00","text":"就是Johnson國會議員，現任國會議長也有。","quality":0.762},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:33.745000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:34.745000+08:00","text":"賴總統如果說要去美國……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:33.805000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:34.405000+08:00","text":"我們有去過兩個地點要放在一起看，也就是夏威夷跟關島要放一起。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:34.465000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:35.246000+08:00","text":"所以夏威夷是沒有的，但關島有？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:35.706000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:33:36.126000+08:00","text":"國會議員有參加，就坐在我旁邊。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:33:59.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:03.658000+08:00","text":"如果賴總統說要去美國，肯定都要事先安排，這是不是一定的？","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:03.818000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:06.240000+08:00","text":"是，因為這個時機確實需要做各方面的考量……","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:06.240000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:07.240000+08:00","text":"我剛才看你們的專題報告……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:06.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:06.700000+08:00","text":"但就結果來說算很順利。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:06.921000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:07.861000+08:00","text":"如果是視訊的話，是美國不能還是不想要、不願意直接見面？","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:08.202000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:08.702000+08:00","text":"美方對賴總統的信任度是不是有質疑？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:08.702000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:21.213000+08:00","text":"因為這是大家……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:21.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:30.178000+08:00","text":"因為美國正處於政府交接，而且議會在開議期間，所以國會議員能夠返回參加僑宴，我們很感謝。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:30.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:32.099000+08:00","text":"至於其他的，有些用視訊或電話，我想是因為現在這個時間的關係。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:37.542000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:38.403000+08:00","text":"請主席再給我一分鐘，我還有很多問題沒有問。","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:38.443000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:40.623000+08:00","text":"我最後再問一個最簡單的問題好了，請教部長，川普即將在1月20日舉行就職典禮，立法院由韓院長率團，包含王定宇召委在內的幾個委員一起前往。","quality":0.797},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:40.764000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:55.109000+08:00","text":"川普團隊如何認定臺美關係？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:55.149000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:56.050000+08:00","text":"我想可以從座位安排來看出，這點部長應該是同意。","quality":0.762},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:56.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:57.932000+08:00","text":"2020年拜登就職時，我們那時候的代表是蕭美琴，被安排在使節團的座位區……","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:57.932000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:58.152000+08:00","text":"不是，是使節團附近。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:34:58.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:34:59.233000+08:00","text":"你覺得這一次我們會被安排在使節團座位區嗎？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:35:14.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:35:20.408000+08:00","text":"沒有，使節團就是獨立的，沒有……而且當時因為是疫情期間，所以人很少，大家都往前……","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:35:20.408000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T10:35:21.488000+08:00","text":"你們有沒有……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:35:21.488000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:35:22.809000+08:00","text":"所以都坐在比較前面。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:35:23.509000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:35:27.791000+08:00","text":"這一次我們也有受到邀請，包括俞大㵢大使在內。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:35:28.991000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:35:35.734000+08:00","text":"不過我們整團那麼多人，所以會找最適合的地點，因為邀請函有分區。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:35:35.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:35:49.920000+08:00","text":"我也跟委員報告，總統是請韓院長率團，並不是組團，組團還是要尊重我們朝野的立法委員，現在是2、2、1。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:35:53.383000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:36:07.212000+08:00","text":"但後來又因臺美國會議員友好協會之故，所以又變更增加兩位，而美處也很努力設法達成，但我們希望不要再變動，能夠這樣來進行。","quality":0.63},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:36:07.432000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:36:09.553000+08:00","text":"所以從座位就可以認定臺美關係，對吧？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:36:10.634000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:36:18.959000+08:00","text":"最主要是跨黨派，呈現臺灣團結，重視臺美關係，是這一點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:36:19.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:36:25.904000+08:00","text":"其實不只當天的就職典禮，其他的拜訪、餐會，應該都會促進臺美……","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"林委員憶君","start":"2025-01-02T10:36:26.204000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:36:27.345000+08:00","text":"都已經安排好了嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2025-01-02T10:36:27.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T10:36:28.506000+08:00","text":"都在安排中。謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"主席（林委員憶君）","start":"2025-01-02T10:36:29.006000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T10:36:33.291714+08:00","text":"接下來我們請馬文君委員上臺質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}