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湯董事長"},{"start":440.464,"end":467.497,"text":"時間沒有站起來董事長剛剛有委員提到你們跟那個大陸申請這個在華註冊碼的問題就是台灣啤酒的問題我們當初金門高粱跟你們一樣就被那個暫停暫停進入中國大陸那我們後來我們去爭取不是說爭取我們有去有送件再重新送件但是我知道的是不是如你所說的是那個你們是根本沒有再去送了吧"},{"start":468.564,"end":496.615,"text":"你們根本沒有再去重送了吧現在事實上很多單位還是繼續在送呢各位委員報告目前有民間的業者主動要幫我們送這個文件因為他們跟中國那邊的關係好像是比較友好你們當初沒有送對不對不然以後當初你們沒有送對不對你們就停下來沒送因為我問了你們說那個營業額很低有送件喔有送件有送件嗎有送件有收到退補件嗎"},{"start":500.18,"end":504.439,"text":"他就是不明原因所以沒有通過不明原因 沒有推薦 沒有補薦嗎"},{"start":507.158,"end":530.92,"text":"有補件 有補件但是沒有通過啦那現在你們打算再重新送就對了 是不是是 我們也可以跟透過委員來協助幫我們申請這樣子可能學習金門高粱的方式就比較容易申請到這個我們會協助啦如果你們 因為之前知道是你們你們不打算送好像說這個營業額太低了 好像才五千萬一年才五千萬的營業額在啤酒的部分嘛"},{"start":531.581,"end":537.574,"text":"呃 不只啦 不只五千萬還另外請教齁 你們的這一個 這個 這個推廣費的預算怎麼編這麼高啊"},{"start":541.369,"end":564.695,"text":"各位我們報告我們推廣費的預算是以我們的營業額立法院預算的營業額我們是以600多億編列2.6%下去2.6%喔2.6%你賣的比金門高粱酒好嗎如果單一產品的話我們的啤酒賣的比金門高粱好啤酒賣的比金門高粱好你們的毛利是多少呢啤酒毛利應該還有"},{"start":570.38,"end":582.173,"text":"大概在20%上下所以他的利率毛利也是比金門高粱差那你的推廣會是怎麼變得比金門高粱還高委員報告我剛剛提了我們預算還是看營業"},{"start":583.454,"end":585.556,"text":"金酒是單一產品,我們公司的品效效能"},{"start":604.756,"end":630.926,"text":"像菸的話是代製而已嗎菸的部分我們自己生產我知道有人生產我知道有的是你幫我跟我們報告因為金酒還有一個特殊狀況它是經銷制所以跟菸酒公司還是不太一樣所以因為經銷制所以我們的這個比較省就對了我們的推廣費比較省就對了是的沒錯然後你們的利率又比較差那你們是不是要考慮改變制度如果這樣子金酒制度看起來是一個比較好的制度如果這樣子的話我們會進行評估"},{"start":633.647,"end":657.997,"text":"我覺得這個台酒公司的這個照理來看整個經營當然我也沒有希望台酒的高粱賣得很好反正賣得不好沒關係比金門高粱差是沒有關係但是我覺得整體來講你們的這個利潤實在是就是收益實在是太低了這個一個這麼大的公司編這麼高的這個推廣費但整體的收益這麼低事實上如果這是在金門縣的話如果這是金門縣會早就會被K死"},{"start":658.257,"end":682.267,"text":"我跟委員報告我們的預算裡面有接近大概2.6%裡面大概有接近1%多是香菸的菸價費因為可能金酒沒有做香菸香菸的菸價費每一年上架就要給1%多我們一年的香菸的菸價費高達7億以上這一塊就是說跟行銷沒有關你要上它的價就是要繳這麼多的"},{"start":683.228,"end":692.045,"text":"好 那你的意思就是說你們只有1.6%啦是不是 如果扣掉那個差不多那反而是我們金酒編太多了那我們回去請金酒監討好 謝謝謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:52:22.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:52:27.755000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請莊部長，等一下是土銀。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-02T12:52:27.755000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:52:28.755000+08:00","text":"請莊部長、土銀何董事長。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:52:27.895000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:52:27.935000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:52:39.315000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:52:39.715000+08:00","text":"部長中午好。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:52:40.735000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:52:47.117000+08:00","text":"您有專心聽昨天賴總統的元旦講話嗎？有的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:52:47.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:07.164000+08:00","text":"聽到他說新的一年會繼續推動福國利民的政策，但是中央需要足夠的財源來進行各項措施，因此「我」，就是賴總統，期待財劃法的修法，朝野政黨能夠就各自的版本冷靜再思考，為國家尋求長治久安之道，對吧？","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:07.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:08.124000+08:00","text":"這是他的原文。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:08.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:10.387000+08:00","text":"您這邊列出來是對的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:10.387000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:11.930000+08:00","text":"對的嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:11.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:17.941000+08:00","text":"這個朝野政黨能夠就「各自的版本」，你們的版本在哪裡？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:20.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:22.995000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，財政部對於財劃法的修法一直都在努力。","quality":0.682},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:22.995000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:25.197000+08:00","text":"你們的版本在哪？","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:25.197000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:28.841000+08:00","text":"第一、我們就指標的部分，除了三個指標以外有共識，接下來我們會再……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:28.841000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:29.502000+08:00","text":"不是，你不要再講，我知道你已經收斂到剩三個，我問的是版本，你已經收斂三個了……","quality":0.364},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:29.502000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:30.502000+08:00","text":"但是還有權重的配置……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:29.502000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:29.942000+08:00","text":"我很好奇，財政部是欺上瞞下嗎？","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:40.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:41.894000+08:00","text":"賴總統不知道沒有版本嗎？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:41.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:46.197000+08:00","text":"不會，我們不可能欺上瞞下，第一、除了指標之外還有權重跟調整係數……","quality":0.607},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:46.197000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:51.782000+08:00","text":"不是，都不用講理由，我們講答案，這理由我也聽一百遍了，我說版本欸！","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:51.782000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:53.343000+08:00","text":"總統不知道沒有版本嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:53.343000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:54.564000+08:00","text":"還是你們跟他講有版本？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:55.804000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:53:58.985000+08:00","text":"我們所有的進度都會跟院方報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:53:59.665000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:00.345000+08:00","text":"有沒有版本啊？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:00.626000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:01.066000+08:00","text":"到現在有沒有財政部的版本？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:01.606000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:02.826000+08:00","text":"我們都在進行當中啊！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:03.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:04.927000+08:00","text":"有沒有提出來？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:04.927000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:07.087000+08:00","text":"沒有討論完怎麼會有版本？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:07.087000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:08.087000+08:00","text":"所以沒有提出來嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:07.668000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:11.349000+08:00","text":"當然是要有討論，跟各地方政府討論有一個共識嘛！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:11.349000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:12.569000+08:00","text":"對，所以現在有沒有行政院的版本？","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:12.569000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:13.636000+08:00","text":"有沒有啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:13.636000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:18.220000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，我講過很多遍，就是說我們要做一個討論……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:18.220000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:20.101000+08:00","text":"是，所以你們還沒有討論結束嘛！","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:20.802000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:21.262000+08:00","text":"所以還沒有版本嘛！","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:21.262000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:22.263000+08:00","text":"我們一直在討論當中。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:22.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:27.568000+08:00","text":"如果還沒有版本，賴總統這樣子講，是因為他被你們欺瞞以為有版本嗎？","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:27.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:30.550000+08:00","text":"我們不可能欺瞞，我們都說得很明白。","quality":0.467},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:30.550000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:33.092000+08:00","text":"你們沒有欺騙他，所以你說他說謊，他不知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:33.813000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:35.394000+08:00","text":"我沒有說他不知道啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:35.555000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:37.456000+08:00","text":"那他為什麼說「朝野各自的版本」？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:37.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:41.259000+08:00","text":"我到現在看不懂這句話，不知道是你們的錯還是他的錯？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:41.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:46.562000+08:00","text":"就是說朝野各自可以冷靜思考，然後就各自版本來做討論。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:46.562000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:49.243000+08:00","text":"所以你是不是要趕快照賴總統的意思提出版本啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:49.983000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:56.786000+08:00","text":"我覺得版本這件事情都要經過完善的討論，要做完整的規劃。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:56.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:54:59.067000+08:00","text":"我知道，總統都已經說要照朝野版本……","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:54:59.187000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:01.908000+08:00","text":"因為趕快的話，如果草率也不是一個好的……","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:02.388000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:07.971000+08:00","text":"我知道、我知道，都要完善的規劃，規劃個一、二十年，但賴總統都已經說趕快提出來，他已經這樣講了，你們還這樣拖拖拉拉，不尊重總統喔！","quality":0.764},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:09.031000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:10.953000+08:00","text":"沒有不尊重總統。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:10.953000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:14.295000+08:00","text":"那總統都已經親自下指導棋了，所以你什麼時候要提出版本？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:15.636000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:16.497000+08:00","text":"總統都說朝野版本要討論啊！","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:16.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:16.817000+08:00","text":"什麼時候？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:17.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:21.321000+08:00","text":"現在12月20日立法院三讀通過……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:21.321000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:23.663000+08:00","text":"你們不用關心立法院的版本，關心你們的版本。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:24.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:25.944000+08:00","text":"都還沒有送到行政院。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:26.125000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:26.465000+08:00","text":"你們的啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:26.685000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:27.426000+08:00","text":"你們的版本啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:27.566000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:29.467000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，我們的財劃法都一直在討論當中……好啦！","quality":0.318},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:29.707000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:41.774000+08:00","text":"沒關係，我不為難你，你不敢押日期，只要總統說明天拿出版本，明天版本就會出現，我也不為難你了，這個也已經上升到行政院，也許也不是一個財政部長可以決定的。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:42.214000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:55:47.337000+08:00","text":"如果總統說，下個禮拜版本就拿出來討論，下禮拜版本就會生出來，我相信就會是這樣子。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:55:47.697000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:05.093000+08:00","text":"不過沒關係，我想請教你，剛剛很多人也有提到3,753億的問題，我也聽到您回答羅明才委員說，超徵的部分中央三千多億，3,700億的話，370億就會直接撥給地方，所以還剩三千四百多億。","quality":0.901},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:05.554000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:15.051000+08:00","text":"所以事實上，三千七百多億還有三千四百多億，就算明年實施，更何況我們還沒有實施，明年實施也沒有問題啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:15.211000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:16.632000+08:00","text":"把這錢撥給地方也沒有問題啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:17.632000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:21.293000+08:00","text":"因應財劃法修正之後，3,753億哪裡會有什麼？","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:21.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:30.157000+08:00","text":"各個部會在那邊恐嚇百姓，說這個不夠、那個不夠，明明財政部表現這麼好，一年就超徵了5,000億，其中中央還有三千多億。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:32.137000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:45.801000+08:00","text":"委員，不是這樣子算，我們剛剛講的是113年度的稅課收入，對於113年稅課收入的部分，我們原來預算數有籌編了多少到中央統籌分配稅，已經12個月分配下去了。","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:45.881000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:46.321000+08:00","text":"我知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:46.641000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:50.122000+08:00","text":"如果超過原來預算數的部分，屬於地方的部分，我們也會撥下去。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:50.262000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:50.362000+08:00","text":"對，三百多億嘛！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:50.362000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:51.243000+08:00","text":"我們一定會撥下去，那是113年的部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:56:51.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:56:51.863000+08:00","text":"那您剛剛講的部分又涉及到114年，114年預算已經編了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:00.206000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:00.527000+08:00","text":"稅課收入已經編了嘛！","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:00.527000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:01.527000+08:00","text":"所以114年的預算不會改變嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:00.547000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:00.687000+08:00","text":"也不重編預算嘛！","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:00.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:01.008000+08:00","text":"我們也討論過了。對。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:01.909000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:02.571000+08:00","text":"所以內政部、衛福部各個預算，這些都不會改變啊！","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:02.571000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:02.591000+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:11.281000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:11.881000+08:00","text":"已經編了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:12.162000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:13.162000+08:00","text":"也審差不多了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:13.402000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:15.764000+08:00","text":"已經編了，所以中央要相關的施政……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:15.964000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:17.165000+08:00","text":"就沒有重編的問題嘛！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:17.525000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:18.986000+08:00","text":"他的相關歲出也已經都編列了。","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:19.946000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:20.667000+08:00","text":"對，都已經有列入了嘛！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:22.268000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:23.008000+08:00","text":"已經編列了，對，那是這樣的情況……","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:23.008000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:25.910000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝，所以其他各個部會都說謊，只有財政部講的是實話。不是……","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:26.090000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:26.631000+08:00","text":"什麼這個會少、那個會減，都已經編了啊！","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:26.631000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:27.631000+08:00","text":"錢也都沒有問題了啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:27.191000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:41.361000+08:00","text":"那就要看12月20日通過的財劃法三讀通過以後，什麼時候實施生效，這個時候要依法行政的話，就會要再說……","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:41.461000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:44.403000+08:00","text":"你的意思是說，生效的話可能再重編嗎？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:44.403000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:45.403000+08:00","text":"這個很重要喔！","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:44.403000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:47.906000+08:00","text":"不是重編，必須要依照他這個法律的規定，看要怎麼實施……","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T12:57:48.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T12:57:50.148000+08:00","text":"所以還有可能重編嗎？","quality":0.778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委員報告，目前有民間業者主動要幫我們送文件，因為他們跟中國的關係好像比較友好。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:27.731000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:31.572000+08:00","text":"你們當初沒有送，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:31.572000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:34.773000+08:00","text":"你們就停下來沒送，因為我問了，你們說營業額很低。","quality":1},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:34.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:35.313000+08:00","text":"有送件。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:36.174000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:37.714000+08:00","text":"有送件嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:38.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:38.615000+08:00","text":"那有收到退補件嗎？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:42.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:45.274000+08:00","text":"它就是不明原因，所以沒有通過。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:45.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:46.439000+08:00","text":"沒有退件、沒有補件嗎？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:49.158000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:49.499000+08:00","text":"有補件。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:50.079000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:00:54.283000+08:00","text":"有補件，但是沒有通過，所以現在你們打算再重新送，是不是？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:00:54.944000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:03.551000+08:00","text":"是，我們也可以透過委員來協助幫我們申請，學習金門高粱的方式，就比較容易申請到。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:03.752000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:12.800000+08:00","text":"這個我們會協助，因為之前我知道的是你們不打算送，好像說營業額太低了，啤酒的部分好像一年才5,000萬元營業額。","quality":0.723},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:13.581000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:15.565000+08:00","text":"不只5,000萬元。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:15.565000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:19.454000+08:00","text":"另外請教，你們推廣費的預算怎麼編這麼高？","quality":1},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:24.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:34.332000+08:00","text":"我們推廣費的預算是以我們的營業額、立法院預算的營業額六百多億元編列2.6%。2.6%？2.6%。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:34.332000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:37.413000+08:00","text":"你賣得比金門高粱酒好嗎？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:37.413000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:42.734000+08:00","text":"如果以單一產品的話，我們的啤酒賣得比金門高粱好。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:42.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:45.195000+08:00","text":"你們毛利多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:45.195000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:46.195000+08:00","text":"這裡可以講嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:46.195000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:47.195000+08:00","text":"講大概啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:46.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:01:54.442000+08:00","text":"啤酒毛利大概20%上下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:01:55.684000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:00.729000+08:00","text":"所以毛利也是比金門高粱差，為什麼推廣費編得比金門高粱高？","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:02.972000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:04.173000+08:00","text":"我們預算還是看營業額。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:04.173000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:05.264000+08:00","text":"總營業額我也是看金酒的，因為以前我們審金酒的預算，你們營業額比較高，但你們推廣費編的比率比金酒多很多吧！","quality":0.042},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:05.264000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:06.355000+08:00","text":"你們編2.6%，我們才編2%。","quality":0},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:06.355000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:07.036000+08:00","text":"因為金酒屬於單一產品，我們公司品項相當多。","quality":0.474},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:26.756000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:27.496000+08:00","text":"而且你們很多……像菸的話是代工吧？","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:29.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:31.078000+08:00","text":"菸的部分我們自己生產。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:31.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:32.979000+08:00","text":"我知道有生產，有的是你們幫別人代工。","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:34.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:39.141000+08:00","text":"因為金酒還有個特殊狀況是經銷制，所以跟菸酒公司還是不太一樣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:39.521000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:43.023000+08:00","text":"因為經銷制，所以我們推廣費比較省？","quality":1},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:43.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:44.023000+08:00","text":"是的，沒錯。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:44.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:47.744000+08:00","text":"你們的毛利又比較差，你們是不是要考慮改變制度？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:48.405000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:50.906000+08:00","text":"如果這樣的話，看起來金酒是比較好的制度。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:52.666000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:02:52.906000+08:00","text":"我們會進行評估。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:02:55.647000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:19.977000+08:00","text":"我覺得臺酒公司整個經營……當然，我也沒有希望臺酒的高粱賣得很好，賣得不好沒關係，比金門高粱差沒關係，但是我覺得整體來講，你們的收益實在太低，一個這麼大的公司、編這麼高的推廣費，但整體的收益這麼低，如果這在金門縣早就會被K死。","quality":1},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:03:20.257000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:44.127000+08:00","text":"我們的預算裡面2.6%大概接近1%多是香菸的菸架費，可能金酒沒有做香菸，香菸的菸架費每一年上架就要給1%多，我們一年香菸的菸架費高達7億元以上，這塊跟行銷無關，你要上架就是要繳這麼多。","quality":0.901},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:03:45.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:48.674000+08:00","text":"你的意思是只有1.6%，如果扣掉1%的話？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:03:49.316000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:49.576000+08:00","text":"差不多。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2025-01-02T13:03:50.899000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:54.025000+08:00","text":"反而是我們金酒編太多，回去請金酒檢討，謝謝。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"湯董事長期安","start":"2025-01-02T13:03:54.025000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:54.045000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-02T13:03:54.545000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:55.687857+08:00","text":"謝謝，請回。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（陳委員玉珍）","start":"2025-01-02T13:03:55.987857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-02T13:03:58.273571+08:00","text":"我們請伍麗華委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}