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上次其實鄉親們很急啦 已經從林全院長去已經經過9年了 那蘇院長合併也經過5年了能不能盡快的有一些的登記 或者有一些的這個啟動相關的程序我想這因為我回來以後有跟這個院長報告我們那天到大林埔然後鄉親大家所表達的意見那麼我們現在會快速的啟動一些這個讓"},{"start":428.39,"end":448.621,"text":"鄉親可以希望的這個模式來進行那內政部的部分我們也跟內政部溝通了是不是內政部也同意把他這些業務移交到部長能不能今年啟動至少在區塊的選擇讓鄉親們選因為你環評走一走有可能一兩年包括你的那個在後面"},{"start":449.601,"end":462.547,"text":"對 那我一定說能不能登記這件事情讓鄉親們早點來做選擇跟登記但登記完你還是有可能會做一些變動但至少你讓鄉親們已經等了這麼多年開始做一些選擇跟登記不要讓他們再等了我們會跟這個委員所指導的這個方向"},{"start":467.529,"end":494.983,"text":"我們來加速進行努力在上半年讓大家登記登記完當然不是最後的定案啦但是登記完你才能知道到底多少人需要土地多少人需要哪種現金多少人需要房子那你才能夠規劃你整體到底的狀況也許想像中的跟實際上有落差那你登記完了之後當然還是有部分鄉親會變動但是你經過登記之後你才能全盤了解你整體的一個狀況我認為這個有而且也會讓鄉親更安心說確實已經動起來了不是還停留在這個規劃的階段了"},{"start":496.124,"end":513.679,"text":"是 我們朝這個模式轉移那另外剛剛有提到 部長有提到就是說這個相關的一些跟社會住宅的部分我希望跟內政部加速溝通啦如果可以 內政部願意當然更好如果不行 可能請經濟部又自辦啦 好嗎是"},{"start":515.02,"end":537.388,"text":"這個也要盡快來定案因為這個已經都有對外有說明出去這要盡快定案那最後一個是對於市居者在當地的我還是希望部長給予更多的支持啦真正住在那邊長期住在那邊的他們長年以來對忍受空屋忍受一些空安的一些風險那我認為其實真正住在那邊的人給他多一點照顧其實並不過分我希望部長在這一塊再從優從寬來做處理"},{"start":539.329,"end":560.606,"text":"是的 報告委員這是我們感同身受啦所以我們會全力以赴我也相信未來如果遷春之後那邊的價值會遠遠多於現在政府所付出的價值而且我相信它有機會創造人民跟政府跟整個產業多贏的一個局面啦那我希望在部長的任內有機會我們把這件事情做一個好的處理是 我們一起努力好 謝謝部長 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:12.874000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:13.054000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:13.054000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:14.054000+08:00","text":"請郭部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:13.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:13.796000+08:00","text":"請郭部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:24.281000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:24.861000+08:00","text":"部長辛苦了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:25.782000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:26.042000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:26.482000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:42.771000+08:00","text":"我先請教，因為大南方新矽谷這個計畫對南方當然相當重要，AMD要在南部設研發中心，我想問一下，除了臺南以外，高雄AMD的部分也要設研發中心，目前的進度到哪裡？","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:44.192000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:46.854000+08:00","text":"高雄的AMD應該是跟中山大學的合作。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:48.514000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:50.616000+08:00","text":"對，在今年的第二季要啟用，是這樣嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:53.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:55.618000+08:00","text":"沒關係，可以直接說，您說。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:55.618000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:32:59.959000+08:00","text":"是，這個在亞灣的啟動。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:32:59.959000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:33:07.301000+08:00","text":"對，在亞灣區，AMD在亞灣要設置高雄的研發中心，預定在今年第二季啟動，這個訊息是正確的？是。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:33:07.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:33:08.442000+08:00","text":"也是經濟部協助來輔導、推動？是的。好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:33:15.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:33:28.116000+08:00","text":"目前照訊息看來，有包括像矽光子、高速封裝設計等研發人員，預定會有三、四十個人進駐，是這樣嗎？是的。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:33:29.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:33:43.880000+08:00","text":"也是跟中山大學，還有包括日月光、元澄半導體等合作，我們希望這樣的速度能夠持續推動，也能夠讓臺南、高雄這兩個大南方的計畫順利推動。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:33:43.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:33:44.521000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:33:45.161000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:33:45.741000+08:00","text":"謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:33:45.881000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:33:57.168000+08:00","text":"再來，我也請教一下，輝達NVIDIA在內湖設了第一座研發中心，它的總部跟第二座研發中心有沒有機會在高雄設立？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:02.895000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:20.769000+08:00","text":"輝達的執行長Jensen在美國有公告，說他在今年6月來臺灣的時候，會在我們的電腦展公布落腳臺灣的地點跟怎麼做，因為他們實際上一直都還在我們國內調查……","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:24.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:26.448000+08:00","text":"它主要考量的狀況會是什麼？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:26.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:28.329000+08:00","text":"它主要考慮的考量狀況。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:28.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:29.850000+08:00","text":"它的總部啦，就是第二總部。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:30.511000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:33.493000+08:00","text":"對，應該是說它的總部加研發中心，對不對？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:33.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:42.919000+08:00","text":"對，研發的部分，它是跟鴻海在做智慧城市，然後Taipei-1因為是落在高雄……","quality":0.781},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:43.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:43.940000+08:00","text":"對，Taipei-1在高雄。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:44.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:47.742000+08:00","text":"所以一部分的研發會共同在那個地方處理。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:48.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:50.924000+08:00","text":"所以研發的部分還會繼續在高雄嘛！包括……","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:52.878000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:34:55.881000+08:00","text":"因為它研究的項目太多了。對。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:34:56.421000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:02.427000+08:00","text":"所以它可能會分散，這個部分可能要NVIDIA他們自己發布，這屬於它的商業機密。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:03.128000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:08.973000+08:00","text":"我問一下部長，高雄有沒有機會爭取到總部跟研發中心在高雄落腳？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:12.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:24.679000+08:00","text":"我想這對輝達來講，它的選項就是我以前經常講的，花若盛開，蝴蝶自來，環境夠，它應該就會來……","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:24.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:29.501000+08:00","text":"部長，那麼我問你，你也是從企業出身的，你認為高雄的環境具不具備了？","quality":0.655},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:32.342000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:36.524000+08:00","text":"如果是我個人，因為我出身屏東，高雄離我最近。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:38.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:39.626000+08:00","text":"對，所以高雄，你認為很有機會？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:41.158000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:41.578000+08:00","text":"如果是我。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:42.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:44.380000+08:00","text":"如果是你，所以從企業家的角度來看是有嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:44.481000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:50.005000+08:00","text":"那我們希望大力的來促成，部長，如果有機會的話，大力來促成，高雄不管是各種條件……","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:50.385000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:51.446000+08:00","text":"別忘了他是臺南人。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:53.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:56.075000+08:00","text":"所以有機會臺南、高雄對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:56.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:35:57.495000+08:00","text":"我們希望都整體來促成。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:35:57.615000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:36:32.053000+08:00","text":"我們在看，因為以我們現在大南方這樣的一個環境，任何一個投資者應該會選項在高雄或者臺南，這個是就條件來講的話，但是其他的地區包括桃園、新竹或者臺北、新北這些都已經成熟的環境，所以很重要的是人才的取得、人才能夠招聘的部分，是不是它的決策關鍵？","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:36:32.053000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:36:47.414000+08:00","text":"我想它會選擇的研發總部，第一個，頂尖大學所在地；第二個，人才能夠順利招聘，對它來講，其實全臺灣都適合它，為什麼？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:36:47.414000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:36:59.397000+08:00","text":"因為它所做的、它要做的硬體都在臺灣的西部，所以我可以很正確的講，就是臺灣的西部一定是它選擇落腳的地方。","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:36:59.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:05.098000+08:00","text":"部長，因為清大、交大，包括中山、包括半導體學院等等也都在推動了。","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:05.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:23.269000+08:00","text":"包括這些的廠辦，包括Taipei-1也在高雄，我認為其實高雄應該是有相當大的機會，當然希望部長於公於私都有機會幫忙坐落在南臺灣，不管是高雄或臺南，我認為對於臺灣整體均衡發展都是相當有助益的。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:23.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:32.256000+08:00","text":"輝達因為對我們臺灣來講，非常、非常、非常的重要，所以我們第一個原則就是請它務必在臺灣能夠建立它第二個營運總部。","quality":0.86},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:33.537000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:41.142000+08:00","text":"我們全力來協助，我想水電都充分供應，包括廠房，甚至所有需要的人才，經濟部全力來協助，全力把它留下來。","quality":0.841},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:42.582000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:50.407000+08:00","text":"我們經濟部一定全力協助輝達在臺灣任何一個地方，它只要選擇作為營運總部，我們一定全力配合。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:50.587000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:53.809000+08:00","text":"另外輝達的第二算力中心的部分，有機會落在高雄嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:57.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:58.363000+08:00","text":"機率比較高。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:58.363000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T11:37:59.363000+08:00","text":"機率高啦。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:37:59.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:38:08.248000+08:00","text":"因為第一個，已經有一個Taipei-1了，第二座的話，高雄的機會很大，而且這個耗電量大，高雄電力是充裕的。","quality":0.822},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:38:08.829000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:38:10.570000+08:00","text":"不過變數還是有的。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:38:12.791000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:38:26.099000+08:00","text":"它跟國科會這一邊的配合應該也會滿多的，所以就經濟部的角度來講，我只要給它水、給它電、給它人才，所以這個是沒有問題。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:38:26.099000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:38:31.565000+08:00","text":"部長，高雄亞灣花若盛開，希望鴻海蝴蝶自來好不好？是的。好。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:38:32.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:38:46.559000+08:00","text":"再來我請教一下部長，有關大林蒲遷村，上次謝謝部長也親自趕到大林蒲去，鄉親很有感，部長親自前往其實很有感，我想要問的，現在是進入到了環評跟都市計畫作業的階段，能不能同步啟動？","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:38:46.559000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:38:58.144000+08:00","text":"上次其實鄉親們很急，從林全院長去已經經過9年了，蘇院長核定也經過5年了，能不能儘快有一些的登記，或者啟動一些相關的程序？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:39:00.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:39:24.856000+08:00","text":"因為我回來以後，有跟院長報告，我們那天到大林蒲，鄉親所表達的意見，我們現在會快速的啟動一些讓鄉親希望的模式來進行，內政部的部分，我們也跟內政部溝通了，是不是內政部也同意把它這些業務能夠移交到經濟部……","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:39:24.996000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:39:32.300000+08:00","text":"部長，能不能今年啟動，至少在區塊的選擇讓鄉親們選擇，因為環評走一走，有可能一、兩年，包括你的……","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:39:33.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:39:33.601000+08:00","text":"那個在後面。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:39:34.601000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:39:47.047000+08:00","text":"對，我的意思是，登記這件事情能不能讓鄉親們早點來做選擇跟登記，當然登記完，你還是有可能會做一些變動，但是鄉親們已經等了這麼多年，至少你讓他們開始做一些選擇跟登記，不要讓他們再等了。","quality":0.805},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:39:47.187000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:39:53.369000+08:00","text":"我們會就委員所指導的方向，加速進行。好。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:39:53.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:14.400000+08:00","text":"部長，努力在上半年讓大家登記，登記完，當然不是最後的定案，但是登記完，你才能知道到底多少人需要土地、多少人希望拿走現金，多少人需要房子，你才能夠規劃整體的狀況，也許想像中的跟實際上有落差，你登記完的時候，當然還是有部分鄉親會變動，但是經過登記之後，你才能全盤了解整體的狀況，我認為這個有……是的。","quality":0.916},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:14.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:19.843000+08:00","text":"而且也會讓鄉親更安心，說確實已經動起來了，不是還停留在規劃的階段。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:21.124000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:22.005000+08:00","text":"是，我們朝這個模式再努力。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:22.005000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:23.266000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:23.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:38.659000+08:00","text":"另外剛剛部長有提到一些跟社會住宅相關的部分，我希望跟內政部加速溝通，如果可以，內政部願意當然更好，如果不行，可能請經濟部要自辦，好不好？是。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:40.020000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:40.901000+08:00","text":"這個也要儘快定案。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:41.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:44.222000+08:00","text":"因為這已經都有對外說明，這要儘快定案。是。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:44.662000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:40:50.044000+08:00","text":"最後一個是對於在當地的世居者，我還是希望部長給予更多的支持。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:40:50.324000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:02.368000+08:00","text":"真正住在那邊、長期住那邊的人，他們長年忍受空污、忍受空安的風險，我認為對於真正住在那邊的人，給他們多一點照顧其實並不過分，我希望部長在這一塊可以從優、從寬來做處理。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:04.329000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:08.913000+08:00","text":"是的，報告委員，我們感同身受，所以我們會全力以赴。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:09.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:24.105000+08:00","text":"我也相信未來如果遷村之後，那邊的價值會遠遠多於現在政府所付出的價值，而且我相信它有機會創造人民、政府跟產業多贏的局面，我希望在部長任內，有機會我們把這件事情做一個好的處理。","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:24.205000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:25.026000+08:00","text":"是，我們一起努力。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:25.146000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:25.606000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:26.106000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:29.820286+08:00","text":"中午不休息，我們延長開會時間。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:30.120286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:32.977429+08:00","text":"現在請洪孟楷委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}