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警政署要五十七位的人力因為每一條安檢線的配置人力如果不到四位的話都有可能會作業上比較慢他們已經知道這個問題的嚴重性那院裡面也非常關心這個問題所以會加強把這個問題克服掉是啊"},{"start":395.012,"end":415.061,"text":"董事長你剛剛現在講的大家都在聽我們期待這一次的春節在機場桃園機場的旅運是一個順暢的就算會塞也不能塞個好幾個小時人潮無法去化那甚至會影響到這個航班的起飛是不是"},{"start":415.501,"end":432.169,"text":"是所以機場公司一起服務的幾個單位CIQS單位都有責任我們會協調所以橫向跟垂直的一個溝通協調拜託要真的是精進而且真的是能夠到位啦好不好那台鐵跟國道呢"},{"start":433.411,"end":452.024,"text":"報告委員來台鐵報告委員謝謝委員的關切我們現在台鐵目前已經加開了302班就委員這裡所提到的運能會增加7.3%那我們目前持續掌握我們的訂票狀況跟還有我們的決策資源系統所以我們預計在1月10號還會再加開24列次讓整體運能提升到9.2%"},{"start":456.787,"end":472.265,"text":"那針對委員關切的這個台中的這個部分我們現在目前在第二波加班我們還會加開五列次的台中到台北的一個直達車那兩個小時內就可以從中部區的民眾就可以到台北那台北也可以回到台中"},{"start":473.186,"end":490.283,"text":"對來回這個部分我們也有在處理那我們跟高鐵也有配合高鐵的在台中烏日站的應變小組我們也會橫向加強聯繫隨時來因應處理有可能高鐵可能產生的外溢的一個效果以上好那國道呢"},{"start":492.965,"end":515.082,"text":"跟委員報告那國道部分我們是跟國道公警的部分已經有合作那我們最大的風險是事故事故的部分那我們這邊在事故的一個方式我們國道在國道系統還有銜接的其他的快速道路系統那尤其我們國道1號國道3號跟74號是中部地區最容易有瓶頸塞車的一個路段"},{"start":516.753,"end":535.889,"text":"就尤其是初二、初三、初四這三天因為我們大概年假的部分就這三天全年當中就是這三天會超過130萬、百萬車公里以上的車次所以你們的因應措施那我們這一段的部分的話我們會重點一個看守就是說在這裡面有任何一個狀況都會馬上去做一個處理"},{"start":537.796,"end":557.665,"text":"你們現在對媒體是說有七大疏導措施嘛對不對對我們就希望是說對重點的瓶頸的這個路段跟時間跟空間的一個分流啊主要就是這個部分啊希望這民眾用路人可以來配合的不要大家就集中一個時間多集中一個一個一個時段進去的話那當然就會塞如果說做一個分流的話他會比較順暢"},{"start":558.766,"end":587.279,"text":"是啦我們每年都是這樣子宣導啦但是每年都還是會有塞車的現象啦那我們只能期待不要塞太久啊是在可以容忍可以容忍的一個這個塞車時段如果沒有事故的話就應該是不會塞太久那另外一個是我們1968所以你預期今年的初二初三初四你剛剛講的這個運量最高的這三天裡面如果沒有交通事故的話不會塞太久"},{"start":588.62,"end":605.518,"text":"還是會塞但不會塞太久1968會提供完整的資訊那大家可以來多參考那個路況資訊市長我還是希望雖然昨天部長有主持但是接下來我們還有將近三個禮拜的時間我希望海陸空"},{"start":606.258,"end":626.735,"text":"那通通要做好這個春節這個年假的一個疏運的一個完整完善的一個營運措施我覺得還是要給國人一個信任信任我們的政府部門在交通這個區塊在過年大家歡喜過年的這個時刻不會因為塞車不會因為上不了飛機不會因為錯過班機不會因為在高鐵上不了車"},{"start":632.64,"end":657.379,"text":"坐不了位子 那少了這個過年的興致啦所以我覺得這個對台灣人民來講春節 過年很重要的啦 好不好 市長我們大家一起努力啦 我也期許啦我相信你們做得到啦 是我跟委員報告 除了剛才講說昨天開了應該是部長開第一次會議啊 部長也說這會議不是只開一次啦所以後續呢 我們會來追蹤各單位辦理的情形務必要落實執行 好 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"2025-01-08T11:44:39.187000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:39.667000+08:00","text":"多少人力？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊董事長偉甫","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:41.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:47.250000+08:00","text":"57位人力，因為每一條安檢線的配置人力如果不到4位的話，都有可能導致作業上比較慢。是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"楊董事長偉甫","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:47.710000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:53.392000+08:00","text":"他們已經知道這個問題的嚴重性，院裡面也非常關心，所以會加強把這個問題克服掉。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:55.012000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:15.041000+08:00","text":"董事長，你現在講的大家都在聽，我們期待這一次的春節，在機場、桃園機場的旅運是順暢的，就算會塞也不能塞好幾個小時，人潮無法去化，甚至會影響到航班的起飛，是不是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊董事長偉甫","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:15.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:20.623000+08:00","text":"是，所以機場公司一起服務的幾個單位，CIQS單位都有責任，我們會協調好。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:20.623000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:29.868000+08:00","text":"所以拜託，橫向跟垂直的溝通協調真的是要精進，而且真的是能夠到位，好不好？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:30.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:32.149000+08:00","text":"那臺鐵跟國道呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮總經理輝昇","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:36.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:43.338000+08:00","text":"報告委員，謝謝委員的關切，我們現在臺鐵目前已經加開了302班，就是委員這裡所提到的。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:43.338000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:44.338000+08:00","text":"媒體有標。","quality":0},{"speaker":"馮總經理輝昇","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:43.818000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:10.362000+08:00","text":"運能會增加7.3%，我們目前持續掌握訂票狀況，還有我們的決策支援系統，所以預計在1月10號還會再加開24列次，讓整體運能提升到9.2%，針對委員關切的臺中這個部分，我們目前在第二波加班還會加開5列次臺中到臺北的直達車，兩個小時內中部區域的民眾就可以到臺北。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:11.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:12.245000+08:00","text":"臺北也可以回到臺中？","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮總經理輝昇","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:13.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:28.701000+08:00","text":"對，來回，這個部分我們也有在處理，我們跟高鐵也有配合高鐵在臺中烏日站的應變小組，我們也會橫向加強聯繫，隨時來因應處理高鐵可能產生的外溢效果。以上。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:29.102000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:30.263000+08:00","text":"好，那國道呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"趙局長興華","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:32.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:40.991000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，國道的部分，我們跟國道公警已經有合作，最大的風險是事故的部分，我們這邊針對事故的方式……","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:42.292000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:55.061000+08:00","text":"國道系統還有銜接其他的快速道路系統，尤其國道1號、國道3號跟74號是中部地區最容易有塞車瓶頸的一個路段，對不對？","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"趙局長興華","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:56.913000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:08.083000+08:00","text":"這我們會注意，對，尤其是初二、初三、初四這三天，因為年假的部分大概就這三天，全年當中就是這三天會超過130萬百萬車公里以上的車次，相當集中。","quality":0.78},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:08.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:09.824000+08:00","text":"對，所以你們因應措施？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"趙局長興華","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:10.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:15.869000+08:00","text":"這一段的部分，我們會重點看守，就是說在這裡面有任何一個狀況都會馬上去做處理。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:17.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:21.158000+08:00","text":"你們現在對媒體說有七大疏導措施，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"趙局長興華","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:21.158000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:21.598000+08:00","text":"我們就希望……","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:22.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:24.059000+08:00","text":"對於重點瓶頸的路段……","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"趙局長興華","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:24.879000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:37.665000+08:00","text":"時間跟空間的分流，主要是這個部分希望民眾、用路人可以來配合，不要大家都集中一個時間，都集中一個時段進去的話當然就會塞，如果做分流的話，它會比較順暢。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:38.766000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:53.012000+08:00","text":"是啦，我們每年也都是這樣子宣導，但是每年都還是會有塞車的現象，我們只能期待不要塞太久，在可以容忍的塞車時段。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"趙局長興華","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:53.112000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:57.635000+08:00","text":"是，如果沒有事故的話，應該是不會塞太久，另外就是我們1968……","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:57.635000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:07.259000+08:00","text":"所以你預期今年的初二、初三、初四，你剛剛講運量最高的這三天裡面，如果沒有交通事故的話，不會塞太久。對。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:48:08.620000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:09.921000+08:00","text":"還是會塞，但不會塞太久？","quality":1},{"speaker":"趙局長興華","start":"2025-01-08T11:48:12.224000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:16.528000+08:00","text":"是，1968會提供完整的資訊，大家可以來多參考路況資訊。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2025-01-08T11:48:17.850000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:56.4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