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回答他就是現在自首可樂可是我們能不能透過這樣的一個管道即便"},{"start":209.173,"end":230.69,"text":"今天揮打落腳在任何一個縣市當然本席希望是說能夠落腳在本席的新北市可是只要落腳在台灣都好可是落腳在台灣之後還有其他縣市在這一次我覺得也很好的點是說這一次很多縣市也都提出非常不錯的地方來吸引國際的知名企業"},{"start":231.491,"end":246.685,"text":"那如果說這樣的話經濟部能不能利用這個機會來盤點說到底各縣市有哪些是好用的點那未來可能針對這幾個部分我們經濟部主動去海外來募集或是召集一些高科技企業他們針對這幾個點"},{"start":248.286,"end":270.976,"text":"是 您可以理解我意思嗎我瞭解我瞭解如果說到時候輝達選定在新北但台北的市北科也不錯啊高雄剛剛提到的台南也不錯啊那台南高雄台北這幾次所列出來這些地點是不是可以把它給匯集起來變成是我們下一次主動出籍去找沒有輝達那能不能有其他的高科技公司來選擇台灣"},{"start":272.296,"end":290.911,"text":"是啊這個報告委員我想我們投資台灣我們有這樣的經濟部有這樣的一個單位那我們會把委員剛剛所指導的這樣的一個條件我們會做成這是一個範本然後給所有投資來台灣投資的特別是AI的部分"},{"start":291.531,"end":316.827,"text":"所以我们现在已经有考虑好几个这个国家的这个比较大的这个土地就像刚才您所说的是四北科或者是今天在新北市其实也有蛮多的地方我们都知道它有10公顷以上的这个地方我们会把这些如果今天是经济部的产业园区我们就会整个这个把它建筑起来然后让他们直接进来"},{"start":317.327,"end":335.873,"text":"那他就是不需要再去買土地蓋廠房讓他們快速的可以進到台灣然後在整個的這個產業裡面產生加值的效果可以讓這些公司知道說來台灣投資是方便快速而且能夠有一條龍的服務完全是這樣"},{"start":336.773,"end":358.176,"text":"部長另外一個部分我想今天因為特別有審查到我們明年的這個相關的基金要點我請教一下冬天到了很多人都會想要去這個安排泡湯行程那你知道如果說在台灣安排這個溫泉泡湯的話溫泉的好溫泉的美應該要是誰來負責去宣傳"},{"start":359.217,"end":376.226,"text":"這應該是屬於我們如果對國外的人的宣傳是我們大概會透過外貿協會來建構這樣的一個廣宣的機制是由我們國貿署來主導那如果是國內的應該是我們商業發展署所會"},{"start":378.507,"end":403.697,"text":"對這樣來推廣但是現在因為這一部分因為都屬於各個地方所以他們的地方的特色現在是有國化會他們在推動一個地方創生所以我們現在都有在討論也謝謝委員的提示這個部分我們將會形成地方的特色所以在花蓮也好 台東也好 宜蘭也好"},{"start":404.828,"end":427.365,"text":"這都是我們的溫泉還有苗栗這些都是我們溫泉所擁有溫泉的地方那這個是我們的特色之一是部長這是我們的特色其實它也沒有那麼的大沒有說一定要國發會這邊來做因為為什麼我會特別提到說溫泉是要誰來宣傳就是因為溫泉是我們經濟部相關的一個管轄"},{"start":428.246,"end":455.987,"text":"我們經濟部有掌管水資源作業基金裡面就有針對溫泉這邊來讓經濟部可以跟地方政府收錢是的是啊那但是今天我們總共收入明年有95億而相關的一個經費或是說相關的一個運用的部分但我們一直沒有看到說比較積極的去辦理跟地方政府來合作或是說跟地方政府來結合或者是說跟觀光"},{"start":457.569,"end":476.986,"text":"來做一個結合各縣各部會單打獨鬥真的是已經過去了能夠實在我們如果說連我們把集中資源要宣傳一個都不容易那更何況是現在各部會單打獨鬥來部長是謝謝委員的指導剛才所講的這個錢呢基本上是我們維護"},{"start":479.008,"end":492.203,"text":"維護這個溫泉的所需要的費用當然我想您剛才的指導之後我們會再回來再檢討然後把這個資源能夠能夠集中然後來服務所有的國人資源在你這邊啊"},{"start":492.984,"end":512.971,"text":"那這樣子我現在是不是說幾個有溫泉的部分像本席的新北市我們也有這個溫泉啊金山的溫泉也好或者說我們這個相關的這些溫泉其實也都是非常有名大家也都會了解能不能有比較具體的做法跟縣市還是跟觀光"},{"start":513.931,"end":530.638,"text":"能夠怎麼樣來結合來去做一個推動好的我們回去馬上檢討那馬上希望能夠推出第一波能夠趕在這個寒假這個新年假期啊就可以做一點這個基本的這個廣宣好非常好那什麼時候可以給本席相關的資料"},{"start":534.985,"end":553.605,"text":"兩個禮拜兩個禮拜內是告訴本席說你們要怎麼樣來推廣至少讓今年尤其今年相對來講是寒冬啊是冬天比較冷大家就想到溫泉讓溫泉可以變成是大家的一個DNA讓更多人知道台灣好的溫泉是兩個禮拜本席等您報告好的"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:44.631000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:47.606000+08:00","text":"主席謝謝，麻煩請郭智輝部長。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:47.606000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:47.747000+08:00","text":"請郭部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:55.473000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:55.473000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:55.813000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:41:56.414000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:41:56.874000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:42:10.604000+08:00","text":"部長，其實本席一樣也關心今天上午看到的輝達辦公室的選址議題，你有回答說黃仁勳董事長6月會宣布在哪邊，對不對？對。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:42:10.604000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:42:32.139000+08:00","text":"剛剛聽到上一位委員質詢時一直強調南臺灣，其實北臺灣，像是本席所在的新北市也有透過經發局跟輝達保持密切的聯繫，並且我們提供了包括林口的工一工業區或者是淡水的土地也有可能是潛在的機會，臺北市也說有。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:42:33.420000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:42:55.039000+08:00","text":"本席就好奇，其實只要輝達能夠根留臺灣，我想這都是好事情，但是在這部分，是不是不要讓各縣市變成好像都要單打獨鬥，或者是大家都要擠破頭，這樣子好像是有你沒我，部長，經濟部在這個部分上面可以扮演什麼樣更積極的角色？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:42:55.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:07.604000+08:00","text":"是，報告委員，我們有跟輝達表示經濟部的support，我們經濟部可以支援他什麼，他希望在臺灣落腳以後，他有什麼樣的條件？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:09.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:14.646000+08:00","text":"他們也很客氣的回答說，他們已經有一組人在臺灣各地……","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:15.146000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:15.646000+08:00","text":"私下去看？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:15.986000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:23.648000+08:00","text":"私下一直在轉，最後會提供到美國的董事會來做決定，所以他們也很謝謝經濟部對他們的關注。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:29.272000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:32.835000+08:00","text":"就經濟部所了解的，他會選擇什麼地方？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:33.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:36.358000+08:00","text":"基本上他大概要3公頃的土地……","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:37.139000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:39.681000+08:00","text":"他們的條件開出來是3公頃的土地？","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:39.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:47.788000+08:00","text":"對，他大概的條件有開出來，就是3公頃的土地以及低度建築，他要低度建築，他不像一般ICT的公司說要蓋10樓、20樓，不是！","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:47.788000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:43:59.297000+08:00","text":"他希望3樓就好，所以這裡面還是有一些問題，他希望建蔽率要大一點，這些是條件。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:43:59.918000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:17.532000+08:00","text":"這些是公開的條件，但對於各縣市而言，我相信各縣市長也都磨拳擦掌，也都拜託下面經發局及相關的局處趕快找關係、找管道去跟輝達來接觸，這樣搞得好像全臺灣各縣市在比武招親啊！","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:19.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:26.082000+08:00","text":"但是這個是輝達自己設下的條件，我們也沒有辦法說你一定要怎樣。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:26.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:33.547000+08:00","text":"是，所以經濟部能不能有一個更明確或是更公平、公開的資訊來協助各縣市呢？","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:33.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:39.211000+08:00","text":"還是會變成各縣市去跟輝達接觸，可能輝達可以個別談更有利的條件？","quality":0.793},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:40.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:44:54.690000+08:00","text":"這也許是他的想法，他其實已經進行一年多了，所以我認為這件事情，我們現在即使跟他講請他到哪裡，他通常也都是謝謝我們的協助。","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:44:55.450000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:43.665000+08:00","text":"好，部長，在這件事情上面，當然在商言商，沒有辦法，輝達現在炙手可熱，可是我們能不能透過這樣的管道，即便今天輝達落腳在任何一個縣市，當然本席是希望能夠落腳在本席的新北市，其實只要落腳在臺灣都好，可是落腳在臺灣之後，我覺得也很好的點是，這一次很多縣市都提出非常不錯的地方來吸引國際的知名企業，如果這樣的話，經濟部能不能利用這個機會來盤點到底各縣市有哪些是好用的點，未來可能針對這幾個部分，經濟部可以主動去海外募集或是召集一些高科技企業？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:46.126000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:47.427000+08:00","text":"您可以理解我的意思嗎？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:47.427000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:48.427000+08:00","text":"譬如說……","quality":0},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:47.427000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:47.927000+08:00","text":"我了解、我了解。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:48.487000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:45:54.610000+08:00","text":"如果到時候輝達選定在新北，但臺北的士北科也不錯，還有高雄剛剛提到的，或是臺南也不錯啊！","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:45:55.490000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:04.254000+08:00","text":"臺南、高雄、臺北這幾次所列出來的這些地點，是不是可以把它給匯集起來，變成是我們下一次主動出擊去找廠商的條件？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:04.854000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:46:07.976000+08:00","text":"沒有輝達，能不能有其他的高科技公司來選擇臺灣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:46:09.296000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:06.431000+08:00","text":"是，報告委員，我想我們投資臺灣，經濟部有這樣一個單位，我們會把委員剛剛所指導的這樣一個條件做成範本，給所有來臺灣投資的企業，特別是AI的部分，我們現在已經有考慮好幾個國家比較大的土地，就像剛才您所說的士北科，或者是新北市其實也有滿多地方，我們都知道它有10公頃以上的地方，我們會把這些匯集，如果今天是經濟部的產業園區，我們就會整個把它建築起來，讓他們直接進來，這樣他們就不需要再去買土地、蓋廠房，讓他們可以快速的進到臺灣，然後在整個產業裡面產生加值的效果。","quality":0.797},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:06.451000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:12.653000+08:00","text":"可以讓這些公司知道來臺灣投資是方便、快速，而且能夠有一條龍的服務，對不對？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:12.653000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:12.873000+08:00","text":"是，完全是這樣。好。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:13.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:35.176000+08:00","text":"部長，另外一個部分，今天因為特別有審查到明年相關的基金要點，我請教一下，冬天到了，很多人都會想要安排泡湯行程，你知道如果在臺灣安排溫泉泡湯的話，溫泉的好、溫泉的美，應該是誰要負責去宣傳？","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:37.558000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:47:56.568000+08:00","text":"如果是對國外的人的宣傳，我們大概會透過外貿協會來建構這樣一個廣宣的機制，是由我們國貿署來主導；如果是國內的，應該是我們商業發展署會做這樣的推廣。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:47:56.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:29.234000+08:00","text":"但是現在因為這一部分都是屬於各個地方，所以對於地方的特色，現在是由國發會在推動地方創生，我們都有在討論，也謝謝委員的提示，這個部分我們將會形成地方的特色，所以在花蓮也好、臺東也好、宜蘭也好，還有苗栗，這些都是我們擁有溫泉的地方，是我們的特色之一，我們會跟地方政府來配合。","quality":0.869},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:48:29.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:36.379000+08:00","text":"是，部長，這是我們的特色，其實它也沒有那麼的大，沒有一定要國發會這邊來做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:48:37.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:41.183000+08:00","text":"為什麼我會特別提到溫泉是誰來宣傳？","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:48:41.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:48:54.453000+08:00","text":"就是因為溫泉是經濟部相關的管轄，經濟部掌管的水資源作業基金裡面就有針對溫泉來讓經濟部可以跟地方政府收錢。是的。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:48:54.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:49:15.129000+08:00","text":"是啊，但是我們總共的收入，明年有95億，而相關的經費或是相關運用的部分，但我們一直沒有看到比較積極的去辦理，跟地方政府來合作，或是跟地方政府來結合，或者是跟觀光來做一個結合。","quality":0.987},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:49:15.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:49:29.262000+08:00","text":"各部會單打獨鬥的時代真的已經過去了，說實在話，我們連集中資源要宣傳一個都不容易了，更何況是現在各部會單打獨鬥。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:49:29.662000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:49:31.624000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝委員的指導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:49:31.624000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:49:48.342000+08:00","text":"剛才所講的這個錢，基本上是我們維護溫泉所需的費用，當然，您剛才的指導之後，我們會再回來檢討，把資源能夠集中，然後來服務所有的國人。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:49:48.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:50:13.512000+08:00","text":"資源在你這邊，現在幾個有溫泉的部分，像本席的新北市也有溫泉，金山的溫泉也好，或是相關的這些溫泉，其實也都是非常有名，大家也都會了解，能不能有比較具體的作法，看怎麼樣跟縣市或觀光來結合，來去做推動？","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:50:13.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:50:24.256000+08:00","text":"好的，我們回去馬上檢討，希望能夠推出第一波，希望趕在寒假、新年假期就可以做一點基本的廣宣。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:50:25.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:50:27.618000+08:00","text":"非常好，什麼時候可以給本席相關的資料？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2025-01-08T11:50:31.985000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:50:31.985000+08:00","text":"兩個禮拜。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:50:33.047000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T11:50:47.642000+08:00","text":"兩個禮拜內告訴本席你們要怎麼樣來推廣，尤其今年相對來講是寒冬，冬天比較冷，大家就會想到溫泉，讓溫泉可以變成大家的DNA，讓更多人知道臺灣好的溫泉，好嗎？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2025-01-08T11:50:49.223000+08:00","guessed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