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Kacaw委員：現在已經這麼久了，應該國發會已經送了。","quality":0.433},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2025-01-08T12:41:13.693000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:41:16.313000+08:00","text":"我們了解後再向委員說明。","quality":1},{"speaker":null,"start":"2025-01-08T12:41:17.194000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:41:18.454000+08:00","text":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：這部分再提供書面資料。是。","quality":0.375},{"speaker":null,"start":"2025-01-08T12:41:21.975000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:41:53.990000+08:00","text":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：按照你們原來的期程，如果前面不好好掌握的話，期程會受到很大的影響，這個部分如果我們去對比蘇花改的時候，蘇花改是更困難的，結果它期程都還比較短，所以這個部分要請交通部公路總局要多加油、多協調，要去追蹤那個進度，好不好？是。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":null,"start":"2025-01-08T12:41:54.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:41:57.973000+08:00","text":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：提供資料之後，我也會去協調行政院能夠加快。","quality":0.594},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2025-01-08T12:41:58.633000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:41:59.714000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":null,"start":"2025-01-08T12:41:59.714000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:42:28.751000+08:00","text":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：另外，去年8月16號公路總局針對台11線港口部落外環道可行性評估的期末報告，當然你們都有按照進度在進行，目前的進度也請提供書面資料。","quality":0.743},{"speaker":"陳局長文瑞","start":"2025-01-08T12:42:28.911000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:42:37.415000+08:00","text":"好，沒問題，因為期末之後要有一些修正，我們今年3月應該會把報告完成。","quality":1},{"speaker":null,"start":"2025-01-08T12:42:38.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:42:49.091000+08:00","text":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，按照當天的審查會議紀錄，各機關的發言包括地方政府，尤其是涉及到遺址的部分……","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳局長文瑞","start":"2025-01-08T12:42:49.091000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T12:42:50.132000+08:00","text":"對，文化遺址。","quality":0},{"speaker":null,"start":"2025-01-08T12:42:50.132000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-08T12:43:11.485000+08:00","text":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：那個部分基本上都沒有問題，然後相關部落的同意也都完成了，所以這個部分應該是可以加快處理，因為從去年8月到現在也超過半年了，是不是提供相關進度的書面資料？好。","quality":0.762},{"speaker":null,"start":"2025-01-08T12:43:11.985000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T12:43:16.270714+08:00","text":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：謝謝。","quality":0.133},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2025-01-08T12:43:16.570714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T12:43:17.713571+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-08T12:43:18.013571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T12:43:20.013571+08:00","text":"謝謝鄭天財委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-08T12:43:20.313571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-08T12:43:23.742143+08:00","text":"接下來邀請邱若華委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}