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廣泛的討論"},{"start":41.218,"end":54.499,"text":"那麼在司法法治委員會裡面還有在經過之後的二讀三讀其實都有不斷的討論跟發言這個案子非常清楚"},{"start":55.458,"end":81.453,"text":"非常清楚他就是參考西方先進民主國家裡面對於憲法法庭要求要有一個最低出席的大法官人數才能夠參與審議才能夠做成裁判為什麼在西方國家認為是一個好的制度只要是我們把它引進到台灣"},{"start":82.393,"end":97.75,"text":"民進黨政府就認為這是一個立法擴權認為這是一個毀憲亂政的制度實在是不可思議從上個會期我們針對國會改革法案裡面所制定的國會調查權"},{"start":99.692,"end":119.509,"text":"藐視國會罪的處罰相關的規定這些都是在西方國家早就行之有年的制度可是偏偏引進到台灣之後立刻也是被行政院附議被大法官又宣告是嗜血我們現在看到民進黨政府的所作所為"},{"start":121.016,"end":131.222,"text":"對於明明是一個好的一個憲政制度的改革強力的杯葛這個已經引起了其他國家在看笑話"},{"start":132.861,"end":152.903,"text":"大家知道不管是日本法國以及我們這次憲法訴訟法最後通過的是參考像是捷克的版本要求大法官要最少要10人出席9人才可以做成宣告法律違憲的判決這在別的地方早就這個都是這麼做的"},{"start":154.209,"end":177.18,"text":"以我們現在大法官在憲法裡面規定要有15個人才就是我們大法官憲法明天要有15個人才可以運作可是當我們大法官出現多數缺額只剩下8位大法官的時候我們人民放心將這麼重要的案子放給那些少數的大法官就可以做成憲法判決嗎"},{"start":179.614,"end":196.179,"text":"行政院這次提出的復議案有很多部分是只講了一半沒有講了下半段確實我們現在憲法訴訟的案件極大多數都是由民眾申請99%的案件都是由人民申請憲法訴訟可是"},{"start":199.754,"end":226.608,"text":"被駁回的也就是有100件人民申請的訴訟案件裡面有97件都是不受理駁回大法官頂多是在這100件案件當中受理那兩三件行政院說現在這個在憲法法庭代審的有480幾個477件的這個事先案件大家知道這是累積多少年才有的事先案件"},{"start":228.302,"end":253.337,"text":"大法官不积极的审理就算了那么还想要用这种少数大法官就做出可能会宣告一个重要的法律案违宪或是剥夺人民这个权利的这样的宪法判决我们能够容忍吗我们能够看得下去吗所以这一次宪法诉讼法大法官改革法案其实重要的目的就是要健全"},{"start":254.097,"end":276.212,"text":"整个宪法法庭的制度这个没有蓝绿之分不管未来谁这个执政然后大法官的组成不管是蓝的多或是绿的多或是白的多这不分蓝绿的我们就是要求一个完整的健全的宪法法庭的制度那么民进党那么他现在对于"},{"start":277.412,"end":291.558,"text":"國會所通過的任何的法案只要是不合他們的意不滿他們的意就提起復議然後定而申請釋憲這個已經造成台灣憲政民主極為重要的危機"},{"start":292.919,"end":310.334,"text":"我們實在是不願意看到台灣的憲政機關繼續對抗對立下去我們在這裡懇請全國的民眾都能夠支持我們這次的大法官改革我們待會也會即將要去投出仍然是贊成我們原來法案的決議謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:00:45.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:00:52.015000+08:00","text":"（12時）院長、在座的各位委員、各位媒體朋友、各位全國的朋友們，大家好！","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:00:52.935000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:00:59.858000+08:00","text":"今天我們在這裡即將要針對行政院所提出的覆議案進行投票表決。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:01:01.580000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:01:10.508000+08:00","text":"剛剛鍾佳濱委員說，憲法訴訟法的修法是搞不懂的事情、是沒有經過充分討論的事情。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:01:11.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:02:08.500000+08:00","text":"我在這邊要跟各位報告，憲法訴訟法從一開始由本人提案之後，就經過社會上面廣泛地討論，在司法及法制委員會裡面，還有在經過之後的二讀、三讀，其實都有不斷地討論及發言，這個案子非常清楚，就是參考西方先進民主國家裡面對於憲法法庭要求要有一個最低出席的大法官人數，才能夠參與審議、才能夠做成裁判，為什麼在西方國家認為是一個好的制度，只要我們把它引進到臺灣，民進黨政府就認為這是一個立法擴權、認為這是一個毀憲亂政的制度？","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:02:09.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:02:12.244000+08:00","text":"實在是不可思議！","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:02:12.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:02:33.684000+08:00","text":"從上個會期我們針對國會改革法案裡面所制定的國會調查權、藐視國會罪等處罰的相關規定，這些都是在西方國家早就行之有年的制度，可是偏偏引進到臺灣之後，也是立刻被行政院提出覆議，又向大法官聲請釋憲。","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:02:35.526000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:02:51.222000+08:00","text":"我們現在看到民進黨政府的所作所為，對於明明是一個好的憲政制度改革，強力地杯葛，已經引起了其他國家在看笑話了。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:02:52.861000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:03:12.883000+08:00","text":"大家知道，不管是日本、法國，以及像我們這次最後通過的憲法訴訟法是參考捷克的版本，要求大法官最少要10人出席，9人才可以做成宣告法律違憲的判決，別的地方早就都是這麼做的。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:03:15.009000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:03:37.180000+08:00","text":"現在憲法裡面明定，大法官要有15個人，才可以運作，可是當大法官出現多數缺額，只剩下8位大法官的時候，人民放心將這麼重要的案子放給那些少數的大法官做成憲法判決嗎？","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:03:39.614000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:04:12.441000+08:00","text":"行政院這次提出的覆議案有很多部分是只講了一半，沒有講到下半段，確實我們現在憲法訴訟的案件極大多數都是由民眾聲請，99%的憲法訴訟案件都是由人民聲請，可是被駁回的有97%，也就是100件人民聲請的訴訟案件裡面有97件都是不受理駁回，大法官在這100件案件當中頂多受理那2、3件。","quality":0.888},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:04:14.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:04:26.588000+08:00","text":"行政院說，現在在憲法法庭待審的有477件釋憲案件，大家知道這是累積多少年才有的釋憲案件？","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:04:28.302000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:04:44.532000+08:00","text":"大法官不積極地審理就算了，還想要用這種可能少數大法官就會做出宣告一個重要法律案違憲或是剝奪人民權利這樣的憲法判決，我們能夠容忍嗎？","quality":0.613},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:04:44.932000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:04:45.872000+08:00","text":"我們能夠看得下去嗎？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:04:46.913000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:05:12.729000+08:00","text":"所以這一次憲法訴訟法、大法官改革法案其實重要的目的就是要健全整個憲法法庭的制度，這個沒有藍綠之分，不管未來誰執政，大法官的組成不管是藍的多、或是綠的多、或是白的多，這是不分藍綠的，我們就是要求一個完整的、健全的憲法法庭的制度。","quality":0.757},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2025-01-10T12:05:13.850000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-10T12:05:50.334000+08:00","text":"民進黨現在對於國會所通過的任何法案，只要是不合他們的意、不滿他們的意，就提起覆議，進而聲請釋憲，這個已經造成臺灣憲政民主極為重要的危機，我們實在是不願意看到臺灣的憲政機關繼續對抗、對立下去，我們在這裡懇請全國的民眾都能夠支持我們這次的大法官改革，我們待會即將要去投出仍然是贊成我們原來法案的決議，謝謝。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-10T12:05:50.834000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-10T12:05:53.69114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