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非常好就你民進黨有投進去啊所以找藉口找到什麼藉口連什麼預防性救濟都拿出來當藉口你這要預防是預防今天民進黨濫權戴興德獨裁啊這才該預防的啊大法官要不要去預防一下啊你真的講急迫那你就把戴興德抓出來嘛"},{"start":549.246,"end":578.271,"text":"我們慶德總統這麼急迫欸那你好好提名一個人你不要提名到連你民進黨都不能接受的人那今天大法官就過啦 十個人就滿啦就能夠開會啦不是嗎賴慶德今天好好提名好好提名再兩個他要提名七個 只要兩個再兩個兩個月內大法官人數就滿了"},{"start":579.96,"end":600.541,"text":"不是嗎我再請教副秘書長我想請教您我實在是不懂今天這個所謂的到底預防誰 擊破誰是不是預防今天民進黨濫權還是今天擊破賴清德不提四任的大法官人選你等個兩個月 三個月等不及沒辦法等"},{"start":601.65,"end":626.231,"text":"我覺得今天你們大法官如果接受這個所謂預防性的救濟的申請你是瞧不起賴清德你是已經知道賴清德不會提出讓人民接受讓多數民意接受的大法官人選嘛你根本瞧不起所以你才會說今天如果今天我不把這個新的憲法訴訟法推翻的話大法官就會被癱瘓癱瘓不會被癱瘓的怎麼會被癱瘓"},{"start":630.953,"end":659.335,"text":"大法官怎麼會被攤換賴清德再提兩個人 民進黨不要打臉賴清德就結束啦大法官就可以繼續審案啦我就問秘書長嘛如果今天賴清德再提七個人有兩個被同意了 請問大法官能不能開會了其實大法官現在是可以開會 當然只是不能做緊急處分跟所謂不能做違憲的審查而已嘛 對不對不能做違憲判決 以新法來說嘛 對不對"},{"start":661.479,"end":688.002,"text":"那我就問嘛 只要今天兩個月內賴清德提了兩個 只要兩個 七個提兩個是在野黨一起商量 覺得中立不是黨議大法官通過了 請問十個人是不是就滿了符合最低的十個人答對了嘛 就可以開會了嘛沒錯吧 你看我們副部長我跟妳講副部長這種態度就是正確的賴清德趕快提名你啦 好不好"},{"start":688.883,"end":712.403,"text":"真的啊 你不要提名宗家兵 提名你機率大一點那最後我要講什麼 我要講就是今天就像說秘書長 你們司法院曾經考察過傑克的憲法法庭嘛 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大法官是誰提名"},{"start":874.69,"end":897.045,"text":"有總統提名誰同意國會立法委員那為什麼要立法委員同意這是那個權利分立答對了嘛 權利分立嘛我們代表民意嘛我們是人民一票一票選出來的嘛所以我非常反對過去曾有大法官說大法官不用理民意你認為大法官不用理民意嗎不需要嗎"},{"start":899.008,"end":918.761,"text":"大法官是超脫於民意之上 行走在人世間的神嗎 是嗎如果是這樣 這個憲法條例直接廢掉大法官不需要立法院同意要需要立法院同意就是希望說今天大法官不能夠不死人間煙火那同樣回到還是最根本的問題啊"},{"start":920.882,"end":938.119,"text":"那今天賴清德如果民進黨立法院你是多數行政立法多數一致的時候當然你愛提誰就提誰我們也沒辦法這人民決定的可是當立法的多數跟行政的多數行政的總統是不一樣的時候他才會今天有今天我們憲政這個設計嘛"},{"start":940.174,"end":959.637,"text":"所以回頭還是要強調一件事情少拿憲法法庭攤換這件事如果憲法法庭真的攤換是因為賴清德你就堅持要用黨議大法官你就堅持不肯提兩個今天跟立法院多數民意商量的大法官你再兩個月提出來"},{"start":961.417,"end":983.148,"text":"就沒有今天你們民進黨說什麼癱瘓的問題那我這邊要鄭重的拜託跟勸告我們大法官沒有急迫性哪有急迫性預防性的權益救濟申請對不對你要有一個預防的標的那預防誰預防爛性的爛權才對啊第二個是要有急迫性急迫是什麼"},{"start":984.366,"end":1012.643,"text":"如果你認為今天這個書法通過之後大法官永遠不能開會你是對賴清德最大的玷污你就認為賴清德就是一個不顧名義強悍然後霸道的總統他一定不會提出一個讓人民滿意讓今天多數同意的兩個大法官人選你憑什麼大法官做這樣的預判啊預判賴清德的預判嗎可以這樣嗎"},{"start":1014.884,"end":1022.597,"text":"所以真的 民進黨搞出這種權力救濟 預防性權力救濟就是憲政的笑話一場 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end":"2025-01-15T10:07:56.909000+08:00","text":"針對憲法訴訟法通過，今天要去採取所謂預防性權利救濟，比照預防性權利救濟，是要預防什麼？","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"王副秘書長梅英","start":"2025-01-15T10:07:56.909000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:07:59.651000+08:00","text":"預防權利在將來可能受到侵害。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:00.451000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:00.751000+08:00","text":"什麼樣的權利受到侵害？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:00.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:01.772000+08:00","text":"什麼樣的權利受到侵害，答不出來啊？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:08.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:17.930000+08:00","text":"今天執政黨愛怎麼樣去決定我們的憲政權利受侵害就怎麼決定什麼樣的憲政權利受侵害嗎？","quality":0.718},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:17.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:18.810000+08:00","text":"是什麼權利受侵害？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"王副秘書長梅英","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:20.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:23.831000+08:00","text":"報告委員，剛才講的是一般的，就是因為……","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:23.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:27.812000+08:00","text":"好啦，那我問你下一個問題，「急迫」什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:27.812000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:28.853000+08:00","text":"請問「急迫」什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:28.853000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:36.795000+08:00","text":"我直接幫你講，民進黨的邏輯就是憲法法庭會被癱瘓，要預防憲法法庭被癱瘓，這是政治問題，我不為難你，你不回答。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:38.332000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:40.394000+08:00","text":"我也想請問急迫什麼？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:40.394000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:41.615000+08:00","text":"在急迫什麼？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:41.955000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:08:43.337000+08:00","text":"急迫憲法法庭會被癱瘓嘛，對不對？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:08:43.337000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:04.855000+08:00","text":"我看不到別的理由，只有這個理由，說憲法法庭會被癱瘓，所以要預防被癱瘓，我還先不講到底能不能準用行政訴訟法，我先不講這一塊，我只講這個部分，他要預防所謂的憲法法庭被癱瘓，那我就問急迫性在哪裡？","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:06.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:13.469000+08:00","text":"剛剛廳長已經回答了，憲訴法新制規定，總統幾個月內要提出名單？","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"王副秘書長梅英","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:15.210000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:15.210000+08:00","text":"兩個月。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:17.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:17.652000+08:00","text":"兩個月啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:18.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:19.834000+08:00","text":"那急迫什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:19.994000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:30.443000+08:00","text":"再下一個我就要請教您，真的那麼急迫的話，那我想請教，今天大法官被提名人劉靜怡，你總知道是被誰否決的吧？","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:30.483000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:30.923000+08:00","text":"被誰否決的？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:35.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:51.110000+08:00","text":"被民進黨否決的，所以照民進黨那種奇怪的邏輯，為了大法官不要被癱瘓，真的該究責的是賴清德啊！","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:52.191000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:54.092000+08:00","text":"不是嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:54.092000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:57.955000+08:00","text":"現在剩下多少位大法官在任？幾位？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王副秘書長梅英","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:58.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:09:59.364000+08:00","text":"目前是8位。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:09:59.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:10:04.585000+08:00","text":"8位，按照新制憲法訴訟法幾位就能開庭審理法案？10位。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:10:05.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:10:07.506000+08:00","text":"10位，差幾位？2位。2位啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:10:09.647000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:10:31.886000+08:00","text":"要嘛就怪賴清德，提名一個連民進黨都沒辦法接受的劉靜怡，還是要怪就怪民進黨，劉靜怡是適任的，但因為劉靜怡罵民進黨，結果就把他否決掉，劉靜怡進去8個就變9個，只剩1個囉！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:10:31.886000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:10:38.189000+08:00","text":"兩個月內提1個，我舉個例子，兩個月內如果你提的是鍾佳濱，抱歉，我也沒辦法接受，我一定投反對票啊！","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:10:40.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:10:42.591000+08:00","text":"但是如果提你王梅英，搞不好我會考慮，不是嗎？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:10:44.256000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:10:55.279000+08:00","text":"我要的不是什麼了不起，我要的是中立，只要你做到中立、你不要偏頗、你有法學素養，你的積極資格符合今天大法官提名資格，你就有可能獲得通過。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:10:57.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:03.121000+08:00","text":"可是今天你要搞到憲法法庭會被癱瘓，你跟我講有急迫性問題，罪魁禍首是誰？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:03.421000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:03.661000+08:00","text":"你一定答不出來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:03.661000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:04.001000+08:00","text":"我們請次長來答，是國會嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:15.797000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:16.878000+08:00","text":"還是民進黨？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:16.878000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:19.320000+08:00","text":"民進黨為什麼要把劉靜怡推翻掉？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:19.861000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:29.850000+08:00","text":"你告訴我，你也當過民進黨黨員、你代表民進黨參選過立法委員、你也當過立法委員，你現在跟我講為什麼民進黨要推翻劉靜怡的大法官任命，是在癱瘓大法官嗎？","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:29.850000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:30.531000+08:00","text":"這麼急迫、2個月不能等，你們竟然還把劉靜怡弄掉，你民進黨可惡嘛！","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:30.711000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:30.751000+08:00","text":"次長，我這樣講對不對？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"黃次長世杰","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:41.997000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:46.019000+08:00","text":"我想投票的時候，各黨團都有決議。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:46.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:48.560000+08:00","text":"對，非常好，就你們民進黨有投進去啊！","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:50.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:11:53.683000+08:00","text":"所以找藉口，找到什麼藉口？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:11:54.463000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:02.387000+08:00","text":"連什麼預防性救濟都拿出來當藉口，你這樣預防是預防今天民進黨濫權、賴清德獨裁啊！","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:02.687000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:04.488000+08:00","text":"這才是該預防的，大法官要不要去預防一下？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:06.549000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:07.269000+08:00","text":"你真的講急迫？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:08.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:14.487000+08:00","text":"那你就把賴清德抓出來，我們清德總統，這麼急迫耶！","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:15.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:22.788000+08:00","text":"你們好好提名一個人，你不要提名到連民進黨都不能接受的人，今天大法官就過啦！","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:23.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:24.848000+08:00","text":"10個人就滿了，就能夠開會啦！","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:25.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:28.209000+08:00","text":"不是嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:28.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:43.542000+08:00","text":"賴清德今天好好提名，他要提名7個，只要再2個被同意，兩個月內大法官人數就滿了，不是嗎？","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:43.542000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:53.391000+08:00","text":"我再請教副秘書長，我想請教你，我實在不懂今天這個到底預防誰啊？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:53.391000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:54.391000+08:00","text":"急迫誰啊？","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:53.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:55.714000+08:00","text":"是不是預防今天民進黨濫權？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:55.714000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:12:59.958000+08:00","text":"還是今天急迫賴清德不提適任的大法官人選？","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:12:59.958000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:13:19.023000+08:00","text":"你等兩個月、三個月等不及、沒辦法等，我覺得今天你們大法官如果接受這個所謂預防性的救濟聲請，你是瞧不起賴清德，你是已經知道賴清德不會提出讓人民接受、讓多數民意接受的大法官人選，你根本瞧不起！","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:13:19.163000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:13:28.231000+08:00","text":"所以才說如果今天不把新的憲法訴訟法推翻的話，大法官就會被癱瘓，大法官不會被癱瘓的，怎麼會被癱瘓？","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:13:35.055000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:13:41.480000+08:00","text":"賴清德再提2個人，民進黨不要打臉賴清德就結束了，大法官就可以繼續審案。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:13:43.881000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:13:50.887000+08:00","text":"我就問秘書長，如果今天賴清德再提7個人，有2個被同意，請問大法官能不能開會了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:13:52.488000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:13:59.093000+08:00","text":"其實，大法官現在可以開會，只是不能做緊急處分跟不能做違憲審查而已，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2025-01-15T10:13:59.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T10:14:01.335000+08:00","text":"以新法來說不能做違憲判決，對不對？","quali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d":"2025-01-15T10:20:04.597000+08:00","text":"所以民進黨搞出這種預防性權利救濟真的就是憲政笑話一場，謝謝。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-15T10:20:05.097000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T10:20:09.668429+08:00","text":"謝謝，接下來麻煩羅智強委員代理主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（羅委員智強代）","start":"2025-01-15T10:20:09.968429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T10:20:11.968429+08:00","text":"有請吳宗憲委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}