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我們那邊都做事的"},{"start":351.225,"end":375.33,"text":"所以我們那邊附近農地比較多所以你在於這個宵禁的問題要貨運讓它貨倉急流然後這個宵禁的問題要面對的時候我們的嘉義這個地方就有這樣的優勢可以當這20年內我們南部的一個在一個大型的國際機場完成前這20年的過渡期間跟它在最終期間就要補到這塊這樣好不好"},{"start":377.51,"end":387.414,"text":"謝謝委員提醒因為這還是有限制到交通部的相關權責那我想我們國發會會來因為國發會規劃嘛會來做協調再跟副主委跟市長再說一個很好的優勢我們要讓我們國際人說我們台灣很強的我們水上也可以有基礎你看水上怎麼會有機場咧我們就說對我們這個名字就叫做水上國際基礎貨運為主"},{"start":405.181,"end":418.557,"text":"國外的人聽到就說 喔 台灣強水上也可以有基礎太厲害了好不好我們再來跟交通部做協調跟協商我們很期待這一件事情我們這樣好好的來規劃"},{"start":419.838,"end":437.214,"text":"南方的這樣一個AI半導體的聚落我們除了說37線橋下的交通路運要好之外要怎麼樣台灣接軌國際南部的貨運國際機場非常的重要好不好好 謝謝全力支持水上機場"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:39:57.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:40:02.600000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，有請國發會高副主委。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-15T11:40:03.121000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:40:03.521000+08:00","text":"國發會高副主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:40:03.741000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:40:04.422000+08:00","text":"以及經濟部連次長。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-15T11:40:04.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:40:04.722000+08:00","text":"經濟部連次長。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:40:04.722000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:40:05.722000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:40:04.722000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:40:15.583000+08:00","text":"好，副主委及次長。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:40:15.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:40:37.129000+08:00","text":"最近因為在討論半導體大南方計畫，也希望透過整個AI半導體的發展，可以把臺灣從高雄到屏東、臺南、嘉義的半導體產業鏈串在一起。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:40:38.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:03.823000+08:00","text":"當然嘉義目前有一個很大的優勢，台積電CoWoS廠目前把嘉義當作中心，CoWoS是先進的封裝技術，大概未來的AI晶片要到使用端是不是都要經過所謂的封裝，先進封裝也好，傳統封裝也好，都必須要先封裝，AI才有辦法被使用嘛！","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:04.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:16.189000+08:00","text":"我想進一步請教，如果是日本，現在熊本的AI製造，這些AI晶片需不需要封裝？","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"連次長錦漳","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:16.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:18.370000+08:00","text":"有一部分可能要再送回臺灣這邊……","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:18.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:21.031000+08:00","text":"要送回臺灣封裝，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"連次長錦漳","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:21.031000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:23.832000+08:00","text":"連美國現在這一部分，除非它的供應鏈建立起來，不然這一部分都是……","quality":0.679},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:23.832000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:27.254000+08:00","text":"事實上在美國的也是要送回臺灣封裝。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"連次長錦漳","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:27.254000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:28.254000+08:00","text":"一定要送。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:27.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:34.357000+08:00","text":"我們就這樣說認為臺灣會做成AI的日不落國，就是我們除了製造厲害之外……","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"連次長錦漳","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:35.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:38.540000+08:00","text":"現在AI的伺服器97%在臺灣這邊……","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:38.540000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:41:50.950000+08:00","text":"對，整個製程在臺灣是很重要的，所以我要跟次長以及副主委說，未來的空運、貨運一定是臺灣整個經濟脈絡的主軸。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:41:51.410000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:42:12.723000+08:00","text":"就空運，高雄陳其邁市長認為，他們在高雄應該要填海造陸，創造臺灣的一個貨運國際機場，但畢竟填海造陸如果以規劃而言大概是18至20年，而臺灣確實沒有辦法等18至20年這麼久的時間。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:42:12.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:42:42.030000+08:00","text":"我們也知道現在臺灣整個貨運95%以上都在桃園機場，目前小港機場的貨運大概只占1.79%，呈現的就是，這些AI在南部製造好了之後，要運送到國際的情況之下，目前到桃園等於它的陸運成本是相對比較高的。","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:42:42.610000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:42:53.847000+08:00","text":"所以要下降陸運成本，我們就必須要讓這些貨運在南部機場可以分流，副主委及次長是否贊成？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:42:55.838000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:43:14.923000+08:00","text":"那我就具體建議，我剛剛講晶片，CoWoS要經過封裝，傳統封裝、先進封裝，而嘉義就是封裝的一個基地，未來不管是在世界各國，包括日本、美國生產的晶片，總是要運送回來臺灣。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:43:14.923000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:43:33.826000+08:00","text":"那我們嘉義水上機場，我覺得副主委可以去規劃，在高雄填海造陸未完成前的這段過渡時期，我們先把水上機場的貨運功能提升，因為水上現在就是國際機場，只是飛的班次不多、它的使用量不夠。","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:43:33.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:43:59.520000+08:00","text":"所以就水上機場我們不要思考它會變成以客運為主，不用這樣，我們把它變成以貨運為主的一個機場，就是強化它在貨運來的時候要怎麼裝貨、貨機要怎麼有一個停機坪，可以節省國家在這個過渡期間、最少的資源之下，我們來發展水上的國際貨運機場。","quality":0.837},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:43:59.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:08.105000+08:00","text":"我想請教副主委和次長，這樣的看法你們是否可以支持，並且跟嘉義協助來提案？","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"連次長錦漳","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:09.156000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:14.388000+08:00","text":"當然，如果可以讓我們的貨運暢其流的話，我覺得這個方向都是可以考慮的。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:15.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:19.289000+08:00","text":"好，那我想聽副主委站在國發會的立場……","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:19.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:34.913000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們這一次六大產業及生活圈的規劃裡面，事實上都會考慮到當地發展的產業裡面所需要的一些基礎建設，我們會全盤考量。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:35.653000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:41.775000+08:00","text":"如果像委員所提的這個建議，我們會做評估，因為其實有不同的選擇。是啊！","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:43.376000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:55.462000+08:00","text":"我們會選一個最有效率的方式，因為基本上一定是會支持在地產業的發展，就您說的，如果海運不足，貨運這些量能……","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:55.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:57.083000+08:00","text":"晶片基本上都是空運。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:57.083000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:44:57.623000+08:00","text":"對，我們會全盤考量。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:44:57.623000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:45:01.265000+08:00","text":"對，全盤考量嘛！OK。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:45:01.265000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:45:09.471000+08:00","text":"我要跟副主委再說一下，因為在高雄填海造陸完成前，這20年期間是整個晶片、整個AI非常重要的時刻。對。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:45:09.952000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:45:11.713000+08:00","text":"所以我們不能再等到20年後。了解。","quality":0.615},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:45:11.913000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:45:16.056000+08:00","text":"我們嘉義水上機場有一個優勢，這個優勢說起來我會心酸，不過我一定要說給你們聽，這叫落後的優勢。是。","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:45:23.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:45:26.586000+08:00","text":"為什麼其他的機場，現在它的貨運難以發展？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:45:27.047000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:45:32.034000+08:00","text":"就是因為有宵禁的問題，過了11點飛機不能飛，宵禁的問題很嚴重。對。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:45:33.136000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:45:41.905000+08:00","text":"嘉義雖然一樣要面對宵禁，可是我們那邊的農地比較多，我們那邊都是「作穡」的，附近農地比較多。","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:45:42.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:04.310000+08:00","text":"所以貨運要讓它貨暢其流，然後又有宵禁問題要面對的時候，我們嘉義這個地方就有這樣的優勢，可以在南部的一個大型國際機場完成前的這20年過渡期間，嘉義水上機場剛好補到這一塊，這樣好不好？","quality":0.805},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:06.510000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:11.332000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員提醒，因為這還是有牽涉到交通部的相關權責，我想國發會來……","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:11.352000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:11.352000+08:00","text":"國發會規劃嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:11.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:11.712000+08:00","text":"會來做協調。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:11.712000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:14.313000+08:00","text":"而且我再跟副主委、次長說一個很好的優勢，如果以後跟國際上的人說臺灣很強、我們水上也可以有機場，他說：哇！","quality":0.652},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:14.733000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:15.394000+08:00","text":"水上怎麼會有機場？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:15.394000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:16.394000+08:00","text":"我們就說：對，我們這個名字就叫做水上國際機場，貨運為主。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:34.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:39.087000+08:00","text":"國外的人聽到就說：臺灣強，水上也可以有機場，太厲害了！","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:39.868000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:40.529000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:40.529000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:41.529000+08:00","text":"規劃一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:40.929000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:46:44.693000+08:00","text":"我們跟交通部再來做協調和協商，好不好？","quality":0.647},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:46:45.034000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:04.473000+08:00","text":"好，我們很期待，這一件事情我們這樣好好地來規劃，大南方的這個AI半導體聚落，除了台37線橋下的交通陸運要好之外，要怎麼樣讓臺灣接軌國際，南部的貨運國際機場非常重要，好不好？","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"高副主任委員仙桂","start":"2025-01-15T11:47:04.473000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:05.473000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:47:05.193000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:05.494000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-15T11:47:05.494000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:06.214000+08:00","text":"全力支持水上機場。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:47:06.714000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:09.285429+08:00","text":"召委一定要全力支持。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-15T11:47:09.585429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:11.871143+08:00","text":"全力支持，百分之百。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2025-01-15T11:47:12.171143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:14.456857+08:00","text":"我們也祝福你。謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-01-15T11:47:14.756857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-01-15T11:47:17.899714+08:00","text":"下一位質詢委員請洪孟楷。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}