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委員國民黨黨團進行委員會作成決議農業部因調整公糧收購價格由每公斤26元調整為每公斤34元"},{"start":2549.464,"end":2566.948,"text":"提高農民基本利潤﹐落實照顧農民之政策﹐請公決案8本院國民黨黨團建請委員會作成決議﹐立即解除禁止人民組團赴道路觀光之限制﹐並優先開放道路觀光可循小三通赴金馬棚等三離島線旅遊觀光﹐請公決案9"},{"start":2571.169,"end":2590.73,"text":"院會通過與刪除時﹐本院臺灣民眾黨黨團近期願會作爭決議﹐邀請行政院長率同相關部會首長就﹐1如何改善跨部會的食品源系統登載率極低之問題﹐2如何有效解決近期系統性食安問題等相關事宜﹐進行專案報告並備諮詢請公決案"},{"start":2593.413,"end":2614.508,"text":"11.原住民保留地禁法補償條例修正草案12.國家通訊傳播委員會組織法修正草案13.本院民進黨團進行委員會作成決議依中國大陸及香港政府今年陸續擬定逃犯及刑事事宜相互"},{"start":2615.765,"end":2639.712,"text":"法律協助法例通過香港特別行政區維護國家安全法維護國家安全條例對於港人之迫害恐變本加厲基於自由民主人權之普世價值支持香港人民捍衛自由民主價值的訴求一向為本院堅定的主張對於中國大陸及香港政府履歷假借國安之名侵犯民主人權之行徑"},{"start":2640.632,"end":2663.148,"text":"本院予以最嚴厲譴責二中國大陸及香港政府應即刻廢除相關侵害法人權之法令並釋放所有政治犯重新建立具有透明度象徵性及問責性的法制才有可能使港人及世界各國誠實對香港的信心三本院要求大陸委員會持續關注香港局勢發展"},{"start":2664.008,"end":2691.567,"text":"對於追求香港民主自由受到迫害的香港人依法應給予必要之協助並承諾在香港人權情形改善前不會停滯請公決案十四 中華民國十三年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算及中繼表營業及非營業部分審查總報告案十五 院會通過予以刪除十六 中小企業法案條例修正草案十七 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那我們請議事委員待會宣讀"},{"start":2841.789,"end":2869.44,"text":"本院臺灣民眾黨黨團針對第11屆第1會期第14次會議議事日程討論事項你請列下表5案是否有當進行公決一、立法院職權行使法修正草案二、中華民國刑法修正草案三、立法委員互選院長、副院長辦法修正草案四、立法院組織法修正草案五、地方民意代表費用知己及村里長事務補助費補助條例修正草案宣讀完畢好 謝謝那我們第三位請林委員處應發言"},{"start":2880.911,"end":2897.431,"text":"針對第11屆第1會期第14次會議議事日程討論事項建請增列下列下表所列三案是否有當進行公決民主進步黨立法院黨團林楚瑩謝謝那我們請議事人員代為宣讀"},{"start":2898.905,"end":2924.825,"text":"本院民主金融黨立法院黨團針對第11屆第1會期第14次會議議程討論事項建請針列下表所列三案是否有當進行公決一再生醫療法草案二再生醫療之際條例草案三地方民意代表費用之急及村議長事務補助費補助條例修正草案宣讀完畢好謝謝那我們請第4位沈伯陽委員發言"},{"start":2934.795,"end":2948.548,"text":"好我只是想要在這邊呢在針對民眾黨提出黨法案這件事情表達遺憾之意齁這個呢已經跟民眾黨溝通了那麼多次齁那卻還是選擇在程序委員會的時候再報告事項然後就把事項抽出齁所以這次嚴厲譴責這件事情齁"},{"start":2951.05,"end":2969.365,"text":"那我還是要再說一次我已經聽到國眾兩黨講了很多次了就是說這一個案子為什麼不在立法委員行為法或職權行使法那我就再講一次假設今天有性騷假設一家公司裡面已經有性騷相關的規定然後所以我們就不用訂性騷相關的法律嗎"},{"start":2970.286,"end":2987.763,"text":"又或者說我們立法院裡面有洩密相關的規定那就表示我們整個中華民國就不用再訂刑法第132條所以我還是要再鄭重的說一次這些法案完全沒有衝突而且我們今天有提出了8個完全不同的版本那這些不同的版本針對國安的這些"},{"start":2989.364,"end":3012.371,"text":"形狀還有國安的一些規制不一而足再選擇在程序事項然後把這個東西抽掉然後不進去委員會討論這個完全不符合民主的機制所以還是要再次強調如果說民眾黨像你們的總召黃國昌委員不斷地強調委員會中心主義結果連那麼重要的爭議都不讓大家發言"},{"start":3012.791,"end":3033.913,"text":"然後也不讓大家進去委員會討論那這樣委員會中心主義是做什麼用的如果今天這件事情是有爭議的那就不是應該到委員會好好來討論嗎陳昀臻委員針對這一個案子也發表過很多不同的見解那為什麼不來司法法治委員會為什麼不來國防外交委員會跟內政委員會直接來告訴我們這個法案的問題在哪裡"},{"start":3034.714,"end":3057.752,"text":"對不對 大家都是念法律的不就是可以好好在委員會來討論哪一樣的方案對這個國家是最好的嗎為什麼要在程序委員會就把這個案子抽掉這是一件完全不合理的事情所以呢我還是要再說一次拜託民眾黨不要再為虎作倡我知道國民黨可能有自己一些的考量但民眾黨我們已經溝通了多次卻還是不斷"},{"start":3058.573,"end":3072.745,"text":"把這一個法案把這一個擋下的事情呢放在程序委員會這個議事台上然後甚至呢上次還說我們不懂公務員相關的規定大家要知道公務員相關的一個規定有內部的規範跟外部的規範這兩種規範呢其實是一點關係都沒有的"},{"start":3076.168,"end":3097.683,"text":"這邊在座念法律的我看也不少但結果連最簡單的內部規範跟外部規範的差別都沒有辦法釐清那更不要講說對於陸委會還有我們的內政部還有我們的相關的聯審會到底是怎麼審查這個審查是刑事的審查還是實質的審查都搞不清楚所以我們這邊有不少是地方的民代"},{"start":3098.283,"end":3114.884,"text":"那對於這個聯審會對於這一些到底運作的方式形式跟實質是為了怎樣的透明化完全不予討論然後就在程序把這個案子擋下來我覺得是非國家之福那我發言到這邊 謝謝好 謝謝那我們下一位請陳玉珍委員發言"},{"start":3142.02,"end":3147.482,"text":"主席那個是不是可以 秩序可以稍微維持一下我們現在想法是這樣就是說"},{"start":3153.208,"end":3175.321,"text":"如果沒有拿麥克風因為我們比較沒有辦法確認是聲音大聲小聲沒關係就發言就對我了解我了解謝謝特別謝謝我們這個沈伯陽委員學弟特別點名本席這個我先就這個程序部分來說一個說明您剛剛所提到這委員會中心主義這的確是沒有錯"},{"start":3176.121,"end":3200.038,"text":"那所以程序委員會也是一個委員會所以我們要在委員會裡頭當然可以充分討論我們要不要讓案子排進去當然我們就在程序委員會裡頭我們都不是橡皮圖章不是說程序這個排進來那個排進來我們就一定要立案各位委員都有提案的權利這個委員會的委員也有否決的權利我們在這裡就是在討論這個行使這樣的權利不然的話我們何必需要程序委員會所有東西只要如果形式完備的話"},{"start":3201.4,"end":3216.058,"text":"議事處的人員就可以幫你檢查幫立法院檢查形式是不是完備是不是有16席是不是什麼內容什麼各方面所以我覺得第一個我先解釋有關委員會中心主義這件事情第一個"},{"start":3217.28,"end":3244.981,"text":"本席認為本席再次再次來表達為什麼本席認為還有國民黨團相關的我們在黨團認為就是這個案子事實上不適合排進來第一我看到我事實上很認真的看到我們很多委員的這個提案事實上說要保護保障我國民選公職人人身安全那所以要做這相關的限制我覺得這個就是用國家打算用保護之名行限制之時那第二個"},{"start":3246.122,"end":3268.616,"text":"裡面有幾位委員提到不只是針對立法委員包括地方民代而且包括退休的地方公職地方民代比如說退休的議員幾年內做相關的這個限制我想民進黨團裡民進黨也有很多的地方的這個公職人員包括縣市議員也許你們也應該去聽聽地方縣市議員的這個聲音本期在這個金門的這個"},{"start":3270.778,"end":3271.318,"text":"選民陳情案"},{"start":3286.286,"end":3294.29,"text":"委員會討論後來呢如果就這樣子的話會造成事實上有點像是外交部現在外交部希望用濫訴的方式讓比如說對徐曉信委員提出控告用濫訴方式試圖造成寒蟬效應我想這樣的法令事實上提出來本身就是一個對民主的一種打臉所以我們還是這樣認為"},{"start":3308.018,"end":3326.385,"text":"這根本就是明代版的這個反滲透法而且是一個企圖扣帽子的法令所以本屆還是認為這個法令不適合不適合列案謝謝好那我們下一位請莊瑞雄委員發言那在莊委員發言完畢時同時截止發言登記"},{"start":3338.887,"end":3344.193,"text":"謝謝主席還有各位在場列席的委員還有各位媒體朋友我剛剛跟黃孟愷書記長講話大家你會嫌我太大聲我也跟大家報告為什麼我講話會那麼大聲其實我不是跟你講話我是在跟林國誠講話"},{"start":3355.064,"end":3372.018,"text":"臺灣民眾黨沒有我跟你講不管是國民黨或者說臺灣民眾黨你去看嘛我剛剛跟你們講的就是說我們在這個建請增列的案子在第一案就是整個再生醫療法草案然後再生醫療治療條例的草案這一些把它給增列"},{"start":3372.939,"end":3390.248,"text":"這個是各個政黨都沒有意見而且這個提案不是只有民進黨的提案還包括你們臺灣民眾黨的提案我在幫你們的委員的提案把它放到程序裡面來程序如果完備各個政黨沒有爭議你們現在說比較慢啦 比較慢啦 比較慢就是人們反對嘛你們今天整理了多少案"},{"start":3396.051,"end":3402.657,"text":"對不對 這個是最沒有政治性的沒有啦 林志明你怎麼反對國民黨洋蔥營的案子啊你怎麼反對台灣民眾黨的案子啊這個你們國民黨也有提案欸"},{"start":3412.161,"end":3423.154,"text":"我們幫你們增列進來程序委員會就是大家來讓他程序完備以後幫各位委員他們辛辛苦苦的法案做出來以後到委員會裡面來做討論"},{"start":3430.475,"end":3457.249,"text":"你像比如說我們在這個地方阿如果涉及到政治性的草案我都沒話講阿像這一種沒有任何政治性的然後大家在那邊期待喔 大家會說阿是不是我們這個案先我放行結果你們敢說這麼多好啦那如果這樣談政治性的法案的話那就很簡單了如果說基於一個國家裡面阿我們在整個重點的研究領域裡面或者國家涉及國家安全跟國家核心關鍵技術這些人員"},{"start":3458.65,"end":3484.655,"text":"到底要做管制嗎他的跟到中兩岸跟到中國去要不要把他這些來做一個揭露或者說黨政黨務或軍事行政具有政治性機構的這些團體那這些國家對國安的部分要不要特別來做一個慎重你們認為說阿不要啦不要人家動作差啦是這個就是在防賊"},{"start":3486.472,"end":3498.256,"text":"這個法案就是涉及到整個國家安全的部分或者說在立法院裡面你曾經去參與整個秘密會議的一個審議這一個來做一個適當的一個規範你們認為說 噢 這樣是在封城了嗎一個國家的安全如果到最後都不設防 那"},{"start":3505.68,"end":3521.807,"text":"我尊重你們 人數比較多 你們認為國家安全就不重要但是呢 整理了這兩案 毫無政治性的連國民黨也有自己提案 連你台灣民眾黨也有自己提案你林國聰你就不知道 你如果對人家在反對 你是在反對什麼國民黨把你扣下去撥下去 你就對人家走你這個人叫台灣民眾黨 你實在是"},{"start":3540.624,"end":3542.367,"text":"下一位我們請王振旭委員發言"},{"start":3554.923,"end":3573.149,"text":"主席各位委員大家好針對於由民主建部黨所提出來第一個跟第二個議案的部分是有關於再生醫療法草案跟再生醫療治劑條例草案"},{"start":3573.709,"end":3587.009,"text":"那真的都是經過三黨非常用心的討論經過大家的努力希望針對於醫療的需求能夠透過這種醫療法案"},{"start":3588.362,"end":3591.264,"text":"以上,再麻煩各位委員能夠依照這樣的需要來幫忙讓他盡快的促成以上,謝謝"},{"start":3619.294,"end":3625.645,"text":"因為沒有新提案所以我們就不待會宣讀那我們下一位請沈博洋委員發言"},{"start":3635.083,"end":3653.431,"text":"好 謝謝主席那我是建議主席其實可以讓這個林委員發言因為我就覺得比較奇怪因為今天是他來檔案結果上來說明的全部都是國民黨這其實也是蠻奇怪的一件事情那我在這邊先回應一下這個陳委員第一個就是他說委員會是可以做審查沒有錯我們到處都是委員會"},{"start":3654.171,"end":3674.947,"text":"但這個叫程序委員會我還是再講一次 上次我其實跟你講過一次程序怎麼拼 癡恩二生辰 惜於四生序程序要看什麼 看你的修法理由是不是沒寫看你的連署人數是否不足 這個才叫做程序委員會那不然你程序委員會可以審查失職的話那你到底要各個委員會要幹嘛 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