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照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議張明通過我們現在休息"},{"start":4210.584,"end":4238.015,"text":"報告院會我們現在繼續開會現在進行第45條請宣讀條文國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案再修正動議第45條立法院為有效行使憲法所賦予之職權得經院會決議涉調查委員會或得經委員會之決議涉調查專案小組對相關議案或與立法委員職權相關知識項行使調查權及調閱權"},{"start":4240.736,"end":4268.695,"text":"調查委員會或調查專案小組得要求有關機關就特地應案、涉及事項提供參考資料並得舉行聽證、要求有關人員出席提供證言及資料、物件、聽證相關事項依第九章之一之規定。調查委員會之名稱、調查事項、目的、方法及成員人數由院會議決之。調查專案小組之名稱、調查事項、目的、方法及成員人數由委員會議決之。"},{"start":4271.076,"end":4296.365,"text":"民進黨黨團再修正動議第45條立法院今院會決議得涉調查委員會就特地依案行使調查權且上調查權之行使僅於與憲法賦予立法院之職權有重大關聯之範圍內使得為之調查委員會行使調查權處得要求有關機關構就議案涉及四項提供參考文件外必要時並得調閱議案"},{"start":4300.33,"end":4321.408,"text":"設計事項之文件原本或要求機關構提供其他資料或物件或以舉行調查公聽會之方式邀請機關構出席表達意見或學者專家出具專業意見宣讀完畢報告宣言會現在依登記順序發言首先我們請王定宇委員發言"},{"start":4342.511,"end":4363.238,"text":"現在在青島東路跟中山南路上面年輕的上班族剛下班有北玉女的同學有許多同學從青島東路一直到濟南教會當中有一個政大的老師他的名字叫保羅他拿到台灣的永久居留證"},{"start":4364.312,"end":4388.69,"text":"他問著,為什麼不讓不同意見的人發表意見?國會的擴權法案,為什麼不聽聽不一樣的意見?這樣的國會荒腔走板,台灣還是民主國家嗎?下課的時候,有一群北玉女的同學來到青島東路跟中山南路口,他們問,為什麼要沒收討論?"},{"start":4390.618,"end":4416.13,"text":"這一次我們審議的議案攸關著國會的運作攸關著立法行政院際的互動攸關著如果你被列為關係人的時候不管你是公務員、政府人員或者是全國超過6萬的人民團體或者超過78萬間的公司或者2300萬人甚至於部隊都能夠被國會調查"},{"start":4420.729,"end":4443.294,"text":"當面對懲處的時候我們的立法院可以讓這些人面對罰款、面對徒刑這些法案難道不值得好好討論嗎?這樣子的擴權叫做改革嗎?為什麼國會的改革卻是讓立法院的權力越來越大卻沒有自我監督跟反省?"},{"start":4444.574,"end":4468.749,"text":"在委員會審查的時候、沒收討論全部的提案都保留在黨團協商的時候沒有辦法逐條協商全部保留來到我們現在的院會進行審議的時候登記發言每一條只准一個人三分鐘講話"},{"start":4470.45,"end":4486.036,"text":"其他的通通沒收登記發言為什麼不敢讓人討論為什麼不讓人家講話縱使表決有輸有贏怎麼可以不讓這些議案這麼重要的案子在這裡討論在委員討論在黨團協商討論"},{"start":4491.011,"end":4511.745,"text":"這些討論的過程是有意義的文字的修改條文之間的矛盾甚至於有一些法律的見解都要不同難道不應該討論難道不應該讓來自不同選區人民選出來的國會議員在這裡展現不同的民意為什麼要沒收我們的討論韓國瑜院長為什麼不讓我們講話"},{"start":4515.776,"end":4527.357,"text":"委員傅崐萁等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人"},{"start":4575.874,"end":4601.481,"text":"謝謝王定宇委員的發言報告院會現在由國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議我們進行表決報告院會我們再一次清點人數請所有議事人員仔細清點"},{"start":4705.58,"end":4724.027,"text":"報告院會宣布在場委員總共110位報告院會現由民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手"},{"start":4798.212,"end":4820.647,"text":"報告院會在場委員110位、贊成人數50人、贊成者少數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手"},{"start":4885.427,"end":4901.876,"text":"報告院會在場委員110位、贊成人數50位、重複表決贊成者少數民眾黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現在針對國民黨黨團提議停止討論進行表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手"},{"start":4985.703,"end":5001.479,"text":"報告院會出席110位委員表決贊成60位贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在我們進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手"},{"start":5071.812,"end":5083.704,"text":"報告委員會宣布重複表決結果在場委員110位贊成60位贊成者多數宣告停止討論通過"},{"start":5088.888,"end":5115.641,"text":"報告院會現在進行處理第45條依序進行表決如果其中有任何一案通過即不再處理其他案報告院會第45條照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過有無異議"},{"start":5119.403,"end":5137.844,"text":"有異議我們現在表決現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手"},{"start":5211.261,"end":5232.636,"text":"報告院會表決結果出席110位贊成49位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手"},{"start":5240.264,"end":5249.291,"text":"立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案"},{"start":5307.967,"end":5315.831,"text":"報告院會現在宣布重複表決結果在場110位贊成人數48位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過現在第45條進行舉手表決贊成國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文請舉手"},{"start":5332.694,"end":5336.358,"text":"本院司法及法制委員會報告併案"},{"start":5406.092,"end":5424.595,"text":"報告院會宣布表決結果在場110位委員、贊成人數60位、贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團條文請舉手"},{"start":5497.685,"end":5510.017,"text":"向院會報告在場委員110位、贊成60位、重複表決贊成者多數做以下宣告第45條照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過"},{"start":5522.133,"end":5525.382,"text":"法國院會現在進行第46條請宣讀條文"},{"start":5529.406,"end":5556.654,"text":"國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第46條調查委員會或調查專案小組之設立均應於立法院會其中為之但行使調查權及文件調閱權之實踐不在此限調查委員會及調查專案小組於議案調查完畢並提出調查報告、調閱報告及處理意見後即行解散或於該屆立法委員任期屆滿時自動解散"},{"start":5558.735,"end":5583.254,"text":"民進黨黨團再修正動議第46條調查委員會之設立及調查權之行使應於立法院會期中為之前向調查委員會之名稱調查目的事項範圍期間方法及成員人數本屆未規定者由院會一決之各屆院會調查權之行使致詞於該屆立法委員任期屆滿時終止宣讀完畢"},{"start":5584.175,"end":5584.896,"text":"主席、各位同仁、"},{"start":5607.023,"end":5634.181,"text":"現在這個時候一牆之隔離我們議事廳不到100公尺的青島東路上面有一萬五千位民眾來到現場他們關心我們台灣他們關心我們立法院他們要了解我們立法院到底是民主深化還是民主退化"},{"start":5635.39,"end":5648.176,"text":"甚至是民主老化承認民主的化石民主的制度有三大原則及時廣益充分討論、形成共識讓我們充分發言及時廣益讓我們"},{"start":5665.754,"end":5676.743,"text":"初犯討論實質審查讓我們去無曾經形成共識這才是民主的真諦"},{"start":5679.807,"end":5706.929,"text":"我們現在審查的第46條提到的其實調閱時間本來原條文就不限於會期內要談論到的其實就是實質的調查權要明定好啦要明定調查權不是不行我們民進黨30年來的主張就是認為"},{"start":5708.703,"end":5729.422,"text":"要廢除調查權就是要把五權改為三權嘛廢考試廢監察三權之後本來調查權在國外各先進的民主國家那當然就回到立法院回到國會這"},{"start":5732.543,"end":5756.868,"text":"才是正確的而草野兩黨捨此正途而不就要便宜行事那當然我們全民都反對所以如果我們讓民主退化不但對不起場外一萬五千位我們的同胞我們更對不起2300萬全體台灣同胞"},{"start":5761.155,"end":5780.981,"text":"尤其黃國昌先生你為我們台灣社會立下了偉君子的標竿你超越了馬英九你成了偉君子的冠軍從今天開始偉君子的代名詞就是黃國昌"},{"start":5792.568,"end":5797.67,"text":"報告院會現有國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議我們進行表決"},{"start":5813.12,"end":5830.167,"text":"報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手"},{"start":5908.806,"end":5926.482,"text":"報告院會宣告表決結果在場110位委員贊成48人、贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手"},{"start":5998.041,"end":6007.926,"text":"報告院會宣布重複表決結果告場人數110位、贊成48位、贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現在針對國民黨黨團提議停止討論進行表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手"},{"start":6088.956,"end":6093.677,"text":"報告表決結果在場110位委員贊成60位贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨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