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如果有這個空間的話，我們一起來努力，反正老問題新方法，我們來試試看。"],["鍾委員佳濱：等一下、等一下，對不起，信託業法跟信託法是不一樣的……"],["彭主任委員金隆：當然、當然。"],["鍾委員佳濱：一個是規範信託業者，一個是規範信託的本質，剛剛說目的信託，因為目的信託的受益人這個部分的問題，造成臺灣跟其他國家……其他國家要做財富傳承的時候，他們不會有這個問題，但臺灣就會遇到適法性的問題，所以多久可以跟法務部共同……","法務部，你們可以協助或怎麼樣共同把這個問題解決嗎？"],["劉司長英秀：是，因為這是行政院的政策……"],["主席：法務部私下再跟佳濱委員報告，不好意思。"],["劉司長英秀：好，謝謝。"],["鍾委員佳濱：好，主委呢？"],["彭主任委員金隆：我們當然希望法務部儘快來協助我們。"],["鍾委員佳濱：謝謝。我希望下次再討論到這個議題，各部會的報告最好能夠對準，不要央行說你們做了一堆，金管會卻只有三段，財政部做的事情跟金管會期待的好像有點落差，之後再請召委繼續排定這個議題，我們共同來推動，好不好？謝謝。"],["彭主任委員金隆：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝佳濱委員。","接著請羅明才委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":284,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-20-6","speakers":["賴惠員","林德福","吳秉叡","賴士葆","郭國文","陳玉珍","顏寬恒","鍾佳濱","羅明才","李坤城","李彥秀","黃珊珊","楊瓊瓔","王鴻薇","林思銘","王世堅"],"page_start":227,"meetingDate":["2025-03-31"],"gazette_id":"1143301","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1143301_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、財政部、中央銀行、國家發展委員會及法務部就「如\n何促進台灣金融市場規模發展之執行策略（包括國際金融業務 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