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謝謝楊總裁金管會的部分怎麼樣落實執行金融知識產業方案彭主委你大概提出幾個包括就有貸款的展言強化信保基金的能量這些我想這個我都了解你要怎麼具體落實相關的銀行能夠確實達到你的政策的目標"},{"start":682.757,"end":707.173,"text":"是 報告委員我想我們大概其實我們在過去最近一次經驗就是我們在疫情時候相關的措施那我們在下禮拜我們大概就會邀集銀行來針對這部分針對這一次的這個方案怎麼樣去做延展主委我提醒您特別是中小微企業因為我的選區你知道金屬 鉤 鑒 鋼鐵都是中小型企業傳統產業他們有跟我澄清變成一個平台"},{"start":709.014,"end":720.879,"text":"包括貸款的展延或者是融資的問題我也只能請你們多幫忙所以這部分你要有更多的窗口讓他們即時能夠找到主管機關能夠解決他們的問題"},{"start":723.847,"end":747.455,"text":"這也是我們接下來努力的方向我想這部分我們已經會立刻展開行動然後再跟銀行這邊 銀行公會這邊謝謝來執行這項工作謝謝彭主委 謝謝楊總裁另外就是說我們加強對美國的採購國防預算GDP整體我們目標是3美國相關的主管人員也認為說應該跟美國一樣到3.4院長你認為到3.4有沒有困難"},{"start":752.814,"end":777.795,"text":"我們基於自己國家財政能力的評估以及我們現在需要的國防力量跟我們能夠採購的對象項目我們認為如果在今年這個年度依照總統所說的 往3%的目標來前進的話我們是足以來前進 也是國家最需要的目標就是到3% 下一屆到3.4%另外就是說除了軟體硬體"},{"start":779.196,"end":793.89,"text":"除了軍事的設備之外 相當的軍事服務的採購這個部分能不能再講話軍事服務的採購我希望國防預算的定義啊他應該也不是那麼侷限比方說像有些國家包括美國他把退伍"},{"start":794.57,"end":813.54,"text":"軍人的一些福利都放下去那軍事服務的軍事的服務項目我認為這個也應該是廣泛計算在裡面那如果是連動性很強的我想我們會盡力爭取就整個我提供一個訊息就是說我們跟美國的軍事的採購有兩種管道一個是商售DCS 一個是軍售FMS 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的，國家的利益是唯一的，我們用這個方向來想。"],["邱委員志偉：好，最後30秒。投資臺灣三大方案，從2019年開始到2021年，又繼續延3年到2024年底嘛。"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["邱委員志偉：現在我們把這個資格放到全球的臺商，對不對？全球的臺商都可以回來，然後給他們更多的優惠。投資臺灣三大方案的部分，現在我看所有網站裡面都沒有更新資料。"],["卓院長榮泰：對不起，我們要求馬上來做全面的更新。"],["邱委員志偉：是不是很具體地讓全球臺商想要回來，能夠知道政府新的內容，我都沒有看到呢！資料都沒有看到！"],["卓院長榮泰：好，謝謝。"],["邱委員志偉：好，謝謝院長，辛苦了！"],["主席：謝謝邱委員，謝謝卓院長。","下一位我們請吳宗憲委員質詢。吳宗憲委員質詢完畢後，我們休息5分鐘。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":13,"meet_id":"院會-11-3-7","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣"],"page_start":1,"meetingDate":["2025-04-11"],"gazette_id":"1143401","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1143401_00002"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期第7次會議紀錄","content":"報告事項","agenda_id":"1143401_00001"}}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}